Ellison is engaging in deflection…pure and simple.

Can it , Ellison . You’re locked in with ‘em .

“An Ellison speech on behalf of Olson, in which he called the terrorist a freedom fighter, has been eliminated from most websites, including one devoted to her legal defense, but a Minneapolis blogger who followed the case saved and posted it. One notices the lavish praise that Ellison bestows not only on Olson, also known as Kathleen Ann Soliah, but to Bernardine Dohrn, the former leader of the communist terrorist Weather Underground. Ellison also praised cop-killers Mumia Abu-Jamal, on death row in Pennsylvania, and Joanne Chesimard (aka Assata Shakur), who escaped the U.S. and is now living under the protection of the Castro dictatorship.”

This notorious record suggests that if Ellison had trouble recognizing the nature of terrorism when the radical left carried it out on American soil, he may have a similar blind spot when it comes to members of his own religious group.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/will-rep-king-expose-rep-ellison%E2%80%99s-pro-terrorist-record/

This is the same guy who said the Constitution was a racist conspiracy. If you’d like to see him in person, he will soon be teaming up with Louis Farrakhan and a couple other DEM’s

No. 3 House Dem to Join Louis Farrakhan for Program on ‘Disappearing Black Community’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/no-3-house-dem-to-join-louis-farrakhan-for-program-on-disappearing-black-community/

Anyone who thinks Louis is someone to be admired has problems.

Big Eddie said:
Can it , Ellison . You’re locked in with ‘em .

“An Ellison speech on behalf of Olson, in which he called the terrorist a freedom fighter, has been eliminated from most websites, including one devoted to her legal defense, but a Minneapolis blogger who followed the case saved and posted it. One notices the lavish praise that Ellison bestows not only on Olson, also known as Kathleen Ann Soliah, but to Bernardine Dohrn, the former leader of the communist terrorist Weather Underground. Ellison also praised cop-killers Mumia Abu-Jamal, on death row in Pennsylvania, and Joanne Chesimard (aka Assata Shakur), who escaped the U.S. and is now living under the protection of the Castro dictatorship.”

This notorious record suggests that if Ellison had trouble recognizing the nature of terrorism when the radical left carried it out on American soil, he may have a similar blind spot when it comes to members of his own religious group.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/will-rep-king-expose-rep-ellison%E2%80%99s-pro-terrorist-record/

You are an unmitigated piece of shit.

kvon said:
You are an unmitigated piece of shit.

This coming from YOU? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Phonies like King, who only served in the National Guard would have us believe that Muslims constantly need to show whose side they are on, when many fought and died in Iraq, and other services like these First responders.

Liberal Tormentor said:
This is the same guy who said the Constitution was a racist conspiracy. If you’d like to see him in person, he will soon be teaming up with Louis Farrakhan and a couple other DEM’s

No. 3 House Dem to Join Louis Farrakhan for Program on ‘Disappearing Black Community’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/no-3-house-dem-to-join-louis-farrakhan-for-program-on-disappearing-black-community/

Anyone who thinks Louis is someone to be admired has problems.

The topic is about the Muslims, not race. But not surprised to see you race bait as usual.

kvon said:
You are an unmitigated piece of shit.

Why don’t you expound on that, scumbag?

Sounds like a real American hero, unlike the terrorist sympathizer King. I expected nothing more from the morally bankrupt teabaggers who commented on this. You have no soul.

Nice performance Keith, but no sale. Pick up your prayer rug and toddle on back the land of loons that is Minnesota.

This reminds me of when Rep. Ellison got all weepy after the Ft. Hood masacre. Oh wait — he didn’t?

Kvon says:

You are an unmitigated piece of shit.

For telling the truth?

Sky says:

The topic is about the Muslims, not race. But not surprised to see you race bait as usual.

No, the topic is Ellison.

Color Me Badd said:
Sounds like a real American hero, unlike the terrorist sympathizer King. I expected nothing more from the morally bankrupt teabaggers who commented on this. You have no soul.

How will we ever stop those attacks on the U.S. by the Irish, eh?

Clueless is no way to go through life missy.

Excellent point, guys! If we’re going to look at terrorism and extremism, we need to look at EVERYONE, that way the information gets muddled, and we can’t really talk about anything specific!

It’s important to try to keep these hearings vague. No point in learning anything useful from any of this. Nope… if you’re going to talk about Muslim Extremism (which isn’t a real threat, except in the sense that these hearings are going to encourage more of it… this makes sense, don’t think about it, just accept it), you must also talk about every other type of extremism… or we risk hurting the feelings of the extremists (although, again they don’t exist, except as a result of this hearing).

And despite everyone involved with the hearing saying and agreeing that “we’re not targeting all Muslims,” and “most Muslims are peaceful, law abiding citizens,” and “we’re just trying to find the root cause of this particular type of extremism, and what we can do to prevent it,” don’t believe them. Instead, let’s impose our own “decision” (ie: spin to damage Republicans) about what these ‘hearings’ really mean.

It’s better to learn nothing from hearings like this, than to learn how to better protect our country. And only later, if something actually happens, we’ll just blame Republicans and Tea Partiers anyway. So what have we got to lose?!

/sarcasm

(Hmm… still not sure I made it outlandish enough. Gotta keep trying.)

kvon said:
You are an unmitigated piece of shit.

wow. hit a nerve did he? lol. you libs are absolutely crazy.

Color Me Badd said:
Sounds like a real American hero, unlike the terrorist sympathizer King. I expected nothing more from the morally bankrupt teabaggers who commented on this. You have no soul.

No reports from the front ?

timzank said:
How will we ever stop those attacks on the U.S. by the Irish, eh?

Clueless is no way to go through life missy.

So because Hamas is not attacking America directly, it’s OK to be friendly with them if you are a US Representative?

King is a fraud, a blowhard, and a drunk.
His endorsement of the IRA while a member of Congress IS “state-sponsored terrorism”.
King falls into the category of Irishmen known to ourselves as “Hail fellow, well met!”
The translation for the Sassanach is, “When you extend your hand to greet him, put your other one over your wallet.”

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky says:

The topic is about the Muslims, not race. But not surprised to see you race bait as usual.

No, the topic is Ellison.

No Honey! it’s not about Ellisson. It’s a hearing on Radicalization of Muslim Americans by a terrorist loving Re.King.

skyfet said:
So because Hamas is not attacking America directly, it’s OK to be friendly with them if you are a US Representative?

Evidently it is, Ellison is a big backer of Hamas & Hezzbollah.

skyfet said:
Phonies like King, who only served in the National Guard would have us believe that Muslims constantly need to show whose side they are on, when many fought and died in Iraq, and other services like these First responders.

So you served???

Sky says:

No Honey! it’s not about Ellisson.

Don’t call me Honey. This thread is about Ellison. Why are you getting SO angry about people telling the truth about the guy? Sensitive much?

kvon said:
You are an unmitigated piece of shit.

Is that all you got? You can’t bring a rational thought to the table?

tatboy said:
So you served???

Yes, at Mickey D’s.

skyfet said:
Phonies like King, who only served in the National Guard would have us believe that Muslims constantly need to show whose side they are on, when many fought and died in Iraq, and other services like these First responders.

Where is your evidence of such an ignorant comment?

i dont think anyone is going to change the mind of the left.. They hate America, and as some of these posts by them reinterate, they want more Americans to die by turning a blind eye to this and attacking the one person who wants to get to the bottom of this….

skyfet said:
No Honey! it’s not about Ellisson. It’s a hearing on Radicalization of Muslim Americans by a terrorist loving Re.King.

Let me just see if I can understand this talking point correctly:

At some point in his history, Peter King supported (or said he supported, or said he didn’t un-support) the IRA. As a result, he is no longer allowed to be concerned about domestic terrorism in the United States, hold hearings on the topic, or play a role in defending America from Islamic extremists.

Um… what? Exactly how do those two things reconcile with each other?

Do you realize that makes no sense, or are you just copy/pasting without thought?

tatboy said:
This coming from YOU? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Isn’t it odd that ANYONE who is Muslim is publicly lynched like this?

So, if Islamic extremism is a threat to everyone including Muslims (anyone who pays even fleeting attention to the Middle East would know that it is especially a threat to them), why is having hearings into Islamic extremism in somehow anti-Muslim?

And LOL @ “Hand-ell’s” Messiah

kvon said:
Isn’t it odd that ANYONE who is Muslim is publicly lynched like this?

Who got “lynched”. I have not seen that reported in the MSM???

Obeezy said:
i dont think anyone is going to change the mind of the left.. They hate America, and as some of these posts by them reiterate, they want more Americans to die by turning a blind eye to this and attacking the one person who wants to get to the bottom of this….

I disagree. It’s not that they “hate America.” That’s too simplistic.

The problem is the left inherently (for some reason) is compelled to “fight for the little guy.” And while that sounds good… the problem is, “the little guy” isn’t always correct. So in a fight between “Muslims” and “America,” they’re going to side with “Muslims,” because they’re the “little guy.”

I believe they really thing they’re doing the moral and just thing… but their blanket logic for “the little guy” doesn’t make sense.

Odd how you Conservatives hate EVERYONE who is Muslim and in the public eye…very odd.

They are ALL connected to terrorism.

So strange.

Such a coincidence.

But of course, you guys aren’t racist. NNNNNOOOOOO. You’re just patriots protecting America. It’s Islam that is completely filled with terrorists, right?

Party of Lincoln my ass. Lincoln wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.

kvon said:
Isn’t it odd that ANYONE who is Muslim is publicly lynched like this?

Oh yes, I for one certainly remember the American people whipped into a frenzy after 9/11, roaming the streets and lynching anyone even suspected of being a muslim…

That’s just a lie, Kvon. The hearings aren’t lyching Muslims, they are on RADICAL Muslims. Liberals are the ones equating all Muslims with RADICAL ones.

tatboy said:
Who got “lynched”. I have not seen that reported in the MSM???

YOU ARE LYNCHING HIM. THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA.

kvon said:
But of course, you guys aren’t racist. NNNNNOOOOOO. You’re just patriots protecting America. It’s Islam that is completely filled with terrorists, right?

Islam is not a race.

Black and Gold Brad said:
Oh yes, I for one certainly remember the American people whipped into a frenzy after 9/11, roaming the streets and lynching anyone even suspected of being a muslim…

Let me guess, you’re not Muslim or Arab?

Black and Gold Brad said:
Islam is not a race.

No shit. Really? Wow. Is America a Republic or a Democracy?

I would like all our liberal friends here to answer one simple yes or no question… Are Muslim organizations recruiting in the US for terrorist attacks? Should our Govt. be doing something to stop this recruitment if it is taking place in the US?

Liberal Tormentor said:
That’s just a lie, Kvon. The hearings aren’t lyching Muslims, they are on RADICAL Muslims. Liberals are the ones equating all Muslims with RADICAL ones.

That is what McCarthy said.

kvon said:
Let me guess, you’re not Muslim or Arab?

Because if I were, I’d have been lynched by the American mob in the days after 9/11, right?

kvon said:
YOU ARE LYNCHING HIM. THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA.

Well then you should call the police then and report a murder…

kvon says:
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Odd how you Conservatives hate EVERYONE who is Muslim and in the public eye…very odd.

They are ALL connected to terrorism.
—————

You lose.

INB, I agree with you to a point, but I don’t necessarily think it’s because they are rooting for the little guy. Alot of them appear to openly root for whatever side America ISN’T on.

Obeezy said:
i dont think anyone is going to change the mind of the left.. They hate America, and as some of these posts by them reinterate, they want more Americans to die by turning a blind eye to this and attacking the one person who wants to get to the bottom of this….

You know, I don’t think it’s so much hate, as just sheer blindness and an almost cult like culture the left has established. Look at their comments, you could point out the sky is blue and these clowns will deny it. I think they’ve been brainwashed to think the way they do, there is no logical explanation for their behavior other than they blindly do what they are told.

tatboy said:
I would like all our liberal friends here to answer one simple yes or no question… Are Muslim organizations recruiting in the US for terrorist attacks? Should our Govt. be doing something to stop this recruitment if it is taking place in the US?

Yes they should do something. But they should focus on RADICAL MUSLIMS not ALL MUSLIMS.

ImNotBlue said:
Let me just see if I can understand this talking point correctly:

At some point in his history, Peter King supported (or said he supported, or said he didn’t un-support) the IRA. As a result, he is no longer allowed to be concerned about domestic terrorism in the United States, hold hearings on the topic, or play a role in defending America from Islamic extremists.

Um… what? Exactly how do those two things reconcile with each other?

Do you realize that makes no sense, or are you just copy/pasting without thought?

That information exposes King as your favorite character type: mean-spirited, cynical, hypocritical opportunists.

Obeezy said:
i dont think anyone is going to change the mind of the left.. They hate America, and as some of these posts by them reinterate, they want more Americans to die by turning a blind eye to this and attacking the one person who wants to get to the bottom of this….

I don’t believe they want anyone to die, but many people on the left have a seriously distorted view of the world. Since they stupidly regard Islam as a race of brown people rather than a religion, and everyone and his dog knows what an unhealthy relationship the left has with race, they would rather stick their heads in the sand than confront Islamic extremism. It’s why true blue lefties like Christopher Hitchens are now mistaken for conservatives when they are not in any way, shape or form conservative.

Black and Gold Brad said:
Because if I were, I’d have been lynched by the American mob in the days after 9/11, right?

So you’re not. So you have no idea what they went through?

Kvon says:

YOU ARE LYNCHING HIM. THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA.

What has been said of Ellison that is NOT true? See to you, and alot of libs it would seem, lynching is telling the truth. Sorry, we don’t play by those rules.

When the MSM calls you racists, this is why.

ImNotBlue said:
Let me just see if I can understand this talking point correctly:

At some point in his history, Peter King supported (or said he supported, or said he didn’t un-support) the IRA. As a result, he is no longer allowed to be concerned about domestic terrorism in the United States, hold hearings on the topic, or play a role in defending America from Islamic extremists.

Um… what? Exactly how do those two things reconcile with each other?

Do you realize that makes no sense, or are you just copy/pasting without thought?

So in your mad world, it’s OK to blow people up as-long as they are not Americans. It’s OK to blow the Brits, Unionists, women and children, just because they are not Americans?

Interesting, it’s nice to see all of you who are supporting a terrorist sympathizer and supporter, you are all showing your faces clearly now.

kvon said:
When the MSM calls you racists, this is why.

It’s not a race…

Oh and Kvon, wasn’t it YOU that just last week, said the tea party was on the whole a racist, violent organization? Would you consider that a lynching?

kvon said:
YOU ARE LYNCHING HIM. THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA.

Accurately reporting someone’s words is not lynching someone, and you are a very sad individual if you believe that to be the case.

tatboy said:
It’s not a race…

Arabs, Persians, and all the other races you guys can’t tell the difference between.

kvon says:
When the MSM calls you racists, this is why.

Clearly, you have NO idea what the definition of racism is.

kvon said:
Yes they should do something. But they should focus on RADICAL MUSLIMS not ALL MUSLIMS.

Which is why King’s hearings are titled, “The Extent of Radicalization in the American Muslim Community and that Community’s Response.”

kvon said:
So you’re not. So you have no idea what they went through?

I’ll guarantee you it was nothing like what the people in the Towers went through you lowlife.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Oh and Kvon, wasn’t it YOU that just last week, said the tea party was on the whole a racist, violent organization? Would you consider that a lynching?

If the show fits. If the spitting on Congressmen fits. If the racist signs fits.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky says:

No Honey! it’s not about Ellisson.

Don’t call me Honey. This thread is about Ellison. Why are you getting SO angry about people telling the truth about the guy? Sensitive much?

I’ll call you Honey, as many times as I want. The topic is about the Muslims, why are you turning into a race issue, honey. Do you want a race war?

timzank said:
I’ll guarantee you it was nothing like what the people in the Towers went through you lowlife.

See, equating all muslims with Al Queda. RACIST.

ImNotBlue said:
I disagree. It’s not that they “hate America.” That’s too simplistic.

The problem is the left inherently (for some reason) is compelled to “fight for the little guy.” And while that sounds good… the problem is, “the little guy” isn’t always correct. So in a fight between “Muslims” and “America,” they’re going to side with “Muslims,” because they’re the “little guy.”

I believe they really thing they’re doing the moral and just thing… but their blanket logic for “the little guy” doesn’t make sense.

Liberal Tormentor said:
INB, I agree with you to a point, but I don’t necessarily think it’s because they are rooting for the little guy. Alot of them appear to openly root for whatever side America ISN’T on.

You two are the most utterly obscene pornographers to post on any blog. Recognizing Muslims as people is not a character flaw. Disagreeing with your far right-wing positions, your xenophobia and racism is not a weakness, but a great strength. Why don’t you trot over to Ms. Geller’s site and spew your venom over there. You’d be in like company.

Liberal Tormentor said:
kvon says:When the MSM calls you racists, this is why. Clearly, you have NO idea what the definition of racism is.

He still thinks muslim is a race.

kvon said:
When the MSM calls you racists, this is why.

When the MSM calls over half its consumer-base ‘racist’, I laugh a little inside.

Black and Gold Brad said:
Which is why King’s hearings are titled, “The Extent of Radicalization in the American Muslim Community and that Community’s Response.”

Yes, and the RIGHT TO WORK ACT had a lot to do with giving people the right to work. You’re a sheep.

kvon said:
Arabs, Persians, and all the other races you guys can’t tell the difference between.

Some of us don’t see color.

Black and Gold Brad said:
When the MSM calls over half its consumer-base ‘racist’, I laugh a little inside.

Half? Try 30% of the old people, and 30% of the stupid.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
That information exposes King as your favorite character type: mean-spirited, cynical, hypocritical opportunists.

Hay King… what’s up. You’ve been absent from class lately.

had to know it was going to turn into a side show. if it acts like a duck and quacks like a duck.

timzank said:
Evidently it is, Ellison is a big backer of Hamas & Hezzbollah.

So if it’s not OK to be a US Rep and support Hamas, it should also be unacceptable to be a US Rep and an IRA supporter.

Religion of Peace said:
Some of us don’t see color.

Except when you are creating your digital lynch mobs.

Sky says:

Do you want a race war?

No, that would be you libs that do. Race war, class war. Anyway you can divide people. You KNOW people reject your liberal ideas, so you lie about yout intentions and try to divide people.

Joseph Glackin said:
King is a fraud, a blowhard, and a drunk.

really?? how do you figure that?

skyfet said:
’ll call you Honey, as many times as I want. The topic is about the Muslims, why are you turning into a race issue, honey. Do you want a race war?

No, I doubt she wants a war, but she might be persuaded into supporting concentration camps and gulags. Most of them would likely be in wastelands like Utah. She could hire on as a guard.

Can you believe what she and INB are saying? What is wrong with our nation that we have such creatures among us?

The racists win the day.

kvon said:
See, equating all muslims with Al Queda. RACIST.

Charlie?

kvon said:
If the show fits. If the spitting on Congressmen fits. If the racist signs fits.

So if ONE person does something it is representative of the ENTIRE group???…. Oh I sooooo can’t wait for an answer on this one :)…

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky says:

Do you want a race war?

No, that would be you libs that do. Race war, class war. Anyway you can divide people. You KNOW people reject your liberal ideas, so you lie about yout intentions and try to divide people.

It was your phony ass, that brought race up when the topic was clearly about the Muslims. I’ve noticed you do this very often.

Kvon, I’m actually embarrassed for you right now.

Boom, LOSING!

“Rep. Peter King’s congressional hearings on radical Muslims in the America”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

everywhere like, such as…

Religion of Peace said:
Charlie?

Change the subject, always changing the subject.

Coward.

Not to nit pick,but,your article refers to Ellison as a NY Dem, clearly he is from Minnesota, just sayin/

Liberal Tormentor said:
Kvon, I’m actually embarrassed for you right now.

Boom, LOSING!

Coward.

The Constitution is losing right now.

tatboy said:
Hay King… what’s up. You’ve been absent from class lately.

Busy days, and about to get even busier, my friend. I do try to catch your posts, and the posts of a few others, however.

Sky says:

It was your phony ass, that brought race up when the topic was clearly about the Muslims. I’ve noticed you do this very often.

No, I brought up Ellison’s past behavior as evidence of why I have NO use for him!! Your stupidity knows no bounds.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
No, I doubt she wants a war, but she might be persuaded into supporting concentration camps and gulags. Most of them would likely be in wastelands like Utah. She could hire on as a guard.

Can you believe what she and INB are saying? What is wrong with our nation that we have such creatures among us?

I’ve asked her how she’d feel if the same treatment is shown towards Mormon. As expected, she is silent over that. This folks are so stupid is unbelievable, today it’s the Muslims, tomorrow you don’t know who they’ll be coming for.

tatboy said:
So if ONE person does something it is representative of the ENTIRE group???…. Oh I sooooo can’t wait for an answer on this one :)…

I’ve been to numerous Tea Party’s dude.

St. Louis. Cincinnati. 2 in California.

Mediaite is full of cowards.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
as people is not a character flaw. Disagreeing with your far right-wing positions, your xenophobia and racism is not a weakness, but a great strength. Why don’t you trot over to Ms. Geller’s site and spew your venom over there. You’d be in like company.

but disagreeing with your left wing positions is just automatically racist, right? not a debate, not an exchange of ideas, but just wrong, racist, and any kind of phobia you choose to call it.

Kvon says:
The Constitution is losing right now.

But Kvon, According to Ellison, the Constitution is racist, so wouldn’t that be a good thing?

kvon said:
Mediaite is full of cowards

and full of fools like you.

skyfet said:
today it’s the Muslims, tomorrow you don’t know who they’ll be coming for.

Well, in fairness to Michelle-in-Utah, some of those Lutherans ….

Sky says:

I’ve asked her how she’d feel if the same treatment is shown towards Mormon.

If tens of thousands of people had been murdered in the last few years by people claiming to do it in the name of my religion, I would welcome it, idiot!

I’ve asked her how she’d feel if the same treatment is shown towards Mormons.
———

When is the last time a Mormon flew planes into buildings or fired into crowds of innocent people yelling “alah akbar!!!!!!!!”

When is the last time a Mormon slashed somebody’s throat and posted it on the internet?

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky says:

It was your phony ass, that brought race up when the topic was clearly about the Muslims. I’ve noticed you do this very often.

No, I brought up Ellison’s past behavior as evidence of why I have NO use for him!! Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Ahh! seems like you are cornered, now you are throwing mud. You can’t escape. Isn’t you that defend the phonies from the right, even though, their past is not a shinning example.

justanotherconservative said:
but disagreeing with your left wing positions is just automatically racist, right? not a debate, not an exchange of ideas, but just wrong, racist, and any kind of phobia you choose to call it.

Actually not. Most true conservatives eschew racism and promote a positive, constructive vision of America. I think the problem might be you can’t tell a true conservative from Generalissimo Francisco Franco.

Congressman says terror hearing may inspire terror. Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi says in prepared remarks that Congress has a responsibility to make sure its words do not make problems worse.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The top Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee says Thursday’s hearing on Islamic radicalism could be used by terrorists to inspire a new generation of suicide bombers.

Yep, just talking about Muslims is reason to killl, according to…Dems! Oh, and don’t draw any cartoons of Mohammed. (PBUH)

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky says:

I’ve asked her how she’d feel if the same treatment is shown towards Mormon.

If tens of thousands of people had been murdered in the last few years by people claiming to do it in the name of my religion, I would welcome it, idiot!

So what about the young girls that were married off early by the Mormons. I think they’d rather be dead than leave under torture, why don’t you fight for their rights.

Is the Catholic church guilty of the killings made by the IRA?

Sky says:

Ahh! seems like you are cornered, now you are throwing mud.

Um how exactly do you have me cornered?

So far, this is all I have seen of the trials, and it is one of the reasons why I thought they would be good to hold.

This is one of the important stories and messages that need to be told, and to come out of the trials.

Liberal Tormentor said:
If tens of thousands of people had been murdered in the last few years by people claiming to do it in the name of my religion, I would welcome it, idiot!

So, the Massacre of “Gentile” men, women, children and babies at Mountain Meadow, in the name of Mormonism, was not objectionable because the death count was lower? But, on a per capita basis, it was higher . A count in the upper 90% range …. So, just to make sure, I understand, murdering a hundred or so men, women, children and babies is acceptable, as long as the Prophet of the Day says it is?

timzank said:
How will we ever stop those attacks on the U.S. by the Irish, eh?

Clueless is no way to go through life missy.

Clueless is ignoring the terrorists who bombed Atlanta and shot Dr. Tiller BECAUSE the perpetrators were religious Christians.
Clueless is letting King sponsor NORAID.
Clueless is Forgetting the Aryan Brotherhood and worrying about the Muslim Brotherhood.
Clueless is thinking any faith or race does NOT have bigots and haters within it.
Clueless is singling out one group for the sins of many.

Sky says:

So what about the young girls that were married off early by the Mormons.

Well if this is being done today, it’s by a faction that claims to be a part of Mormonism that the rest of us reject. They would be excommunicated.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Actually not. Most true conservatives eschew racism and promote a positive, constructive vision of America.

Dude(ette?), you could have stopped right there, and actually have said something worthwhile, but you just couldn’t bring yourself to do it, could you?

Religion of Peace said:
I’ve asked her how she’d feel if the same treatment is shown towards Mormons.
———

When is the last time a Mormon flew planes into buildings or fired into crowds of innocent people yelling “alah akbar!!!!!!!!”

When is the last time a Mormon slashed somebody’s throat and posted it on the internet?

Right. The classic Mormon massacre method is shooting people as they are fleeing.

The account, in summary form:

After the Fancher party left Cedar City, frustrated with the refusal of local Mormons to sell them needed goods, they continued southwest through the mountain pass called Mountain Meadows. There they were attacked by Mormon assailants, some of them killed. The remaining emigrants pulled their wagons into a tight circle for protection. Over the next five days, the emigrants were held at siege in their wagon circle. During this period they were attacked two more times.

On September 11, 1857, John D. Lee entered the wagon circle with a white flag, convincing the emigrants to surrender peacefully. Required to put down their guns, the women and children were escorted out first, then the men and boys. Each man and boy was escorted by an armed militiaman.

They walked about a mile when, upon a predetermined signal, the militiamen turned and fired on each man and boy. Indians who had been convinced to participate in the massacre came out from their hiding places to attack the women and children.

For further reading:

http://mountainmeadowsmassacre.com/

Royal Dimwit, I do try my best to ignore you, but I will engage you. You seem obsessed with Mountain Meadow. Something that happened a hundred years ago. What you never mention is that Mormons are the ONLY group I can think of that have had an EXTINCTION order put out on them by a sitting US GOVERNOR! I guess they should have sit back and let it happen without defending themselves.

Let me know when such an extinction order is put out on Muslims.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky says:

So what about the young girls that were married off early by the Mormons.

Well if this is being done today, it’s by a faction that claims to be a part of Mormonism that the rest of us reject. They would be excommunicated.

Wink. Wink.
Nod. Nod.
Know What I Mean? Know What I Mean?

Liberal Tormentor said:
Royal Dimwit, I do try my best to ignore you, but I will engage you. You seem obsessed with Mountain Meadow. Something that happened a hundred years ago. What you never mention is that Mormons are the ONLY group I can think of that have had an EXTINCTION order put out on them by a sitting US GOVERNOR! I guess they should have sit back and let it happen without defending themselves.

Let me know when such an extinction order is put out on Muslims.

All the more reason you ought to abhor King’s fatwa.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
On September 11, 1857,

Oh brother .

THE REAL ROYAL KING says:

There’s NOTHING real about you. Have a wonderful day.

Joseph Glackin said:
Clueless is ignoring the terrorists who bombed Atlanta and shot Dr. Tiller BECAUSE the perpetrators were religious Christians.
Clueless is letting King sponsor NORAID.
Clueless is Forgetting the Aryan Brotherhood and worrying about the Muslim Brotherhood.
Clueless is thinking any faith or race does NOT have bigots and haters within it.
Clueless is singling out one group for the sins of many.

But liberals, AND conservatives hate Christians that murder, the Aryan Brotherhood, the KKK and the murderous McVeigh, and the murder of the murderous Tiller, but you dummies have no problem with Muslim infiltration of America. In fact, you deny it with all your efforts. Why? You point to the other murderous clowns and say…what, exactly, again?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Wink. Wink.
Nod. Nod.
Know What I Mean? Know What I Mean?

Is she a goer? You know does she “go”? Know what I mean?

This clown was hard to watch. I was waiting for Spielberg to yell “Cut!” or someone to run out and hand him an oscar. What a freaking joke!

skyfet said:
Phonies like King, who only served in the National Guard would have us believe that Muslims constantly need to show whose side they are on, when many fought and died in Iraq, and other services like these First responders.

WOW! Funny you care about past service records when we cant even be sure where your community organizer guy was born. Think before you post and get a grip meathead!

justanotherconservative said:
really?? how do you figure that?

Personal contact, Conversation with many of his constituents/associates. The NYC-Irish community has had an effective grapevine far longer than the internet has existed.

tatboy said:
Is she a goer? You know does she “go”? Know what I mean?

I’d forgotten that one.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I’d forgotten that one.

CRUNCHY FROG!!!

The thrust of Rep.King’s inquiries is to gain knowledge about American-Muslims being radicalized by American based Muslim clerics. It’s more than self evident that these attacks are increasing, both in scope and frequency. It’s only a matter of time until we see anther successful 9/11 attack. Mr.King wants to gain knowledge about these radical clerics. I fully support his lawful intent to investigate this growing threat to us.

ndanielson said:

, but you dummies have no problem with Muslim infiltration of America. In fact, you deny it with all your efforts. Why? You point to the other murderous clowns and say…what, exactly, again?

When will you Henny-Pennies show me the “Muslim infiltration of America”? Is this another of those Sharia Law screeds? Are YOU that stupid?

Black and Gold Brad said:
This reminds me of when Rep. Ellison got all weepy after the Ft. Hood masacre. Oh wait — he didn’t?

HAHAHA! Hey, was Ellis the guy on the recieving end of BO’s “Shout out” less then an hour after Major Hassan struck? I cant remember.

And isn’t it amazing what a hard time he’s having letting go of the pain he’s feeling over this guy, who was it, some neighbor from his apartment building, so many years later? They must have been so incredibly close.

GTF outta here with this fat bastard!

Joseph Glackin said:
When will you Henny-Pennies show me the “Muslim infiltration of America”? Is this another of those Sharia Law screeds? Are YOU that stupid?

Fort Hood. I will let others cont to post examples.

kvon said:
Odd how you Conservatives hate EVERYONE who is Muslim and in the public eye…very odd.

You know, just because you say it, doesn’t exactly make it true.

kvon said:
Let me guess, you’re not Muslim or Arab?

Does that matter? Are we only allowed to talk about ourselves now?

Who knew?! I wish someone would forward me these new “socially acceptable” memos.

BUT SERIOUSLY FOLKS… can we please stop responding to “kvon.” He’s just a “button pusher.” His comments are one-liners designed to anger or frustrated people he doesn’t agree with. He’s not looking for a debate, and is most of the time not actually serious. Just a bomb thrower. Ignore, and he’ll go away.

Liberal Tormentor said:
INB, I agree with you to a point, but I don’t necessarily think it’s because they are rooting for the little guy. Alot of them appear to openly root for whatever side America ISN’T on.

Well, that doesn’t necessarily disagree with my hypothesis. America, 9 times out of 10, IS “the big guy.” But they’re not rooting against America for being America, but because it’s “too big.”

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
That information exposes King as your favorite character type: mean-spirited, cynical, hypocritical opportunists.

Aw, Royal… you’re not really my favorite! Just my favorite to pick on for being such an obvious liar and hypocrite!

OH, and speaking of that… I’ve got a present for you. Remember that bit of hypocrisy I exposed last week, and then you ran away claiming “You didn’t remember?” Well, I decided that instead of reposting it each and every time I see you here (since you’ll just keep dodging, no doubt), I’ve decided to add the link to that particular passage into my Mediaite profile! Now, if you click on my name (that’s, “ImNotBlue” right in this post), it will take you the particular thread.

Page 2, buddy. Can’t miss it. And boy, would I love to have a response on it… or maybe that rightful apology.

Anyway, I’m sure you’ll have no problem finding it now… and will get right on it.

Thanks!

skyfet said:
So in your mad world, it’s OK to blow people up as-long as they are not Americans. It’s OK to blow the Brits, Unionists, women and children, just because they are not Americans? Interesting, it’s nice to see all of you who are supporting a terrorist sympathizer and supporter, you are all showing your faces clearly now.

Interesting… I don’t actually recall saying anything to that effect! Hold on, let me re-read what I wrote.

Oh, okay… I see it now. Apparently, my asking how your criticism of King then, equates or is relevant to anything now, was too confusing to actually answer truthfully… so you needed to deflect and suggest that I was saying something I wasn’t. I see how it works!

But here’s what I’ll do for you… no, it is not okay to blow up “Brits, Unionists, women and children, because they’re not America.” Furthermore, it was wrong (provided it actually did happen, forgive me for not just accepting your word for it) to support a group that encourages or is responsible for such actions… like the IRA.

HOWEVER, that does not necessarily preclude someone, IMO, from holding hearings on another set of terrorists (Muslim extremists), specifically ones with a goal of hurting Americans. So back to my original question… why do you think it is?

Let’s see if you can do me the same favor, and answer that for me.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
You two are the most utterly obscene pornographers to post on any blog. Recognizing Muslims as people is not a character flaw. Disagreeing with your far right-wing positions, your xenophobia and racism is not a weakness, but a great strength. Why don’t you trot over to Ms. Geller’s site and spew your venom over there. You’d be in like company.

I’m sorry, can you please highlight for me (just as I’ve highlighted for you) where I (or LT) didn’t “recognize Muslims as people”? Show me where I (or LT) was “xenophobic” or “racist.”

I know you must be frustrated by now… things haven’t been going so great for you for a while, and you’re clearly getting angrier in every post… but you can’t just say things without any kind of reality (I mean, you can… and you do… but it’s not right).

So come on, offer up some example, Royal. Wow us!

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Can you believe what she and INB are saying? What is wrong with our nation that we have such creatures among us?

If you’ve said it, I don’t think most people believe it… especially if it’s about me. But that’s a reputation for you.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:

Remember folks… Royal may attack an entire religion mercilessly, and ascribe the actions of some to EVERYONE… but it’s not bigotry, and it’s not “hate,” it’s just what his religion has allowed him to do (or so he says). Additionally, it’s not hypocritical for him to complain about people doing far less than he… it’s just the way he operates.

To Royal:
Criticizing Muslims = bad, racist, vile
Criticizing Mormons = good, noble, fair

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:

Wait, King has called for them to be MURDERED?! WOW… how did I miss THAT story?!

Oh, that’s right… never happened. Again, a false equivalency.

Where the hell was he when they held 9 other hearing on this exact same thing recently? WAIT, THOSE WERE CONDUCTED BY DIMS…… I get it now!!!…. This guy, I would bet he was probably in front of mirror practicing for his close up FOR DAYS

Remember it is only a small percentage of Muslims that wake up each day wishing for our doom. Like 5% , MAYBE 10, or 70,000,000 TO 120,000,000 or so. No big deal. Nothing to see here. 186 terror related cases involving Muslim nutjobs out or 220 or so, nope, nothing to be concerned about there. 9/11, Charlie Sheen did that.

sarainitaly said:
So far, this is all I have seen of the trials, and it is one of the reasons why I thought they would be good to hold.

This is one of the important stories and messages that need to be told, and to come out of the trials.

Exactly WHAT trials? WHO is on trial? WHO is the judge? WHERE is the jury? Or is this one of those deals made popular by the two Joes–McCarthy & Stalin– called a “Show Trial”?

Joseph Glackin said:
Clueless is ignoring the terrorists who bombed Atlanta and shot Dr. Tiller BECAUSE the perpetrators were religious Christians.
Clueless is letting King sponsor NORAID.
Clueless is Forgetting the Aryan Brotherhood and worrying about the Muslim Brotherhood.
Clueless is thinking any faith or race does NOT have bigots and haters within it.
Clueless is singling out one group for the sins of many.

Why are you leftists not as critical of Islam as you are of Christians?

Main article: List of Islamic terrorist attacks
The outer skin of World Trade Center Tower Two that remained standing after an Islamist terrorist attack orchestrated by Al-Qaeda.

* 18 April 1983 – 1983 United States embassy bombing 63 killed, 120 wounded.
* 23 October 1983 – 1983 Beirut barracks bombing 305 killed, 75 wounded.
* 26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.
* 13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. 250 dead, 700 injured.
* 28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation. 85 dead, more than 300 injured.
* 24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.
* 25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
* 17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.
* 14 February 1998 – Bombing in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 13 bombs explode within a 12 km radius. 46 killed and over 200 injured.
* 7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.
* 4 September 1999 – A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, nearly 300 killed.
* 12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.
* 11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[195]
* 13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on Indian parliament in New Delhi by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. 7 dead, 12 injured.
* 27 March 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.
* 30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 – Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.
* 7 May 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
* 24 September 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[196][197]
* 12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[198]
* 16 May 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafia Jihadia.
* 11 March 2004 – Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).
* 1 September 2004 – Beslan school hostage crisis, approximately 344 civilians including 186 children killed.[199][200]
* 2 November 2004 – The murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.[201]
* 4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.
* 5 July 2005 – Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.
* 7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
* 23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
* 29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[202]
* 9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan. Over 60 killed and 115 injured.[203][204] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[205]
* 7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. A series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi. 28 killed and over 100 injured.[206]
* 11 July 2006 – 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings, Mumbai, India; a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai. 209 killed and over 700 injured.
* 14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq’s Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war’s attack to date.
* 26 July 2008 – 2008 Ahmedabad bombings, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 21 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 56 dead and 200 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence.[207] Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.[208]
* 13 September 2008 – Bombing series in Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead and 130 injured, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 3 people dead.
* 26 November 2008 – Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India’s largest city and financial capital, Mumbai. The government of India blamed Pakistan based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba and stated that the terrorists killed/caught were citizens of Pakistan, a claim which the Pakistani government first refused but then accepted when given proof. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.[209][210]
* 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.
* 28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 killed and over 200 injured.
* 3 December 2009 – Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.[211]
* 1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 100 people.[212]
* 1 May 2010 – New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received U.S. citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.
* 28 May 2010 – Attacks on Ahmadi Mosques Lahore, Pakistan. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed attacks on two mosques simultaneously belonging to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, killing nearly 100 and injuring many others.

Let’s see your list of Christian terrorists since 1980.

Or how about the short list of Christian Terrorists groups compared to this one:

Main article: U.S. State Department list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations

* Abu Sayyaf, Philippines
* Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, Gaza Strip and West Bank
* Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya, Egypt (also known as The Islamic Group)
* Al-Qaeda, worldwide
* Al-Shabaab, Somalia
* Ansar al-Islam, Iraq
* Armed Islamic Group (GIA), Algeria
* Jamaat Ansar al-Sunna, Iraq
* East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), China
* Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Egypt
* Great Eastern Islamic Raiders’ Front (IBDA-C), Turkey
* Hamas, Gaza Strip and West Bank

* Harkat-ul-Mujahideen al-Alami, Pakistan
* Hezbollah, Lebanon
* Islamic Movement of Central Asia, Central Asia
* Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, Uzbekistan
* Jaish-e-Mohammed, Pakistan and Kashmir
* Jemaah Islamiyah, Indonesia
* Lashkar-e-Taiba, Pakistan and Kashmir
* Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Pakistan
* Moro Islamic Liberation Front, Philippines
* Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group, Morocco and Europe
* Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Gaza Strip and West Bank
* Tawhid and Jihad (Al-Qaeda in the Land between the Two Rivers), Iraq

timzank said:
How will we ever stop those attacks on the U.S. by the Irish, eh? Clueless is no way to go through life missy.

“Missy.” LOL

ImNotBlue said:
To Royal:
Criticizing Muslims = bad, racist, vile
Criticizing Mormons = good, noble, fair

This is where I have to give Lawrence O’Donnell some credit. He has admitted that he criticizes Mormons because there’s no danger in doing so, and he’d like to be more critical of Muslims but he’s just too scared. My only question is, which scares him more: violent reprisal from Muslim extremists, or being shunned by his fellow lefties like Juan Williams is?

INB says:

Well, that doesn’t necessarily disagree with my hypothesis. America, 9 times out of 10, IS “the big guy.” But they’re not rooting against America for being America, but because it’s “too big.”

The only thing we disagree on is this. I do think it’s because they have a problem with America, not that it’s too big. Though that’s probably a part of it.

tatboy said:
Fort Hood. I will let others cont to post examples.

By your rules, Tucson was an infiltration by?. Today in Spokane a white supremicist was charged with leaving a satchel charge at a MLK parade. Let’s go after the Aryan Nation! Let’s go after everyone who hates members of govt.! The Mediaite blog would shrink by 90%.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky says:

So what about the young girls that were married off early by the Mormons.

Well if this is being done today, it’s by a faction that claims to be a part of Mormonism that the rest of us reject. They would be excommunicated.

What an Irony! yet your phony ass is blasting a whole community on the actions of a few.

Liberal Tormentor said:
kvon says:When the MSM calls you racists, this is why. Clearly, you have NO idea what the definition of racism is.

No kidding.

Joseph Glackin said:
Let’s go after everyone who hates members of govt.!

Would that include people who hate members of the Wisconsin state government?

Joseph Glackin said:
Exactly WHAT trials? WHO is on trial? WHO is the judge? WHERE is the jury?

you’re right, i should have said hearings. my bad.
i had been listening to a discussion of the Gitmo trials and had trials on the brain.

Joseph Glackin said:
By your rules, Tucson was an infiltration by?. Today in Spokane a white supremicist was charged with leaving a satchel charge at a MLK parade. Let’s go after the Aryan Nation! Let’s go after everyone who hates members of govt.! The Mediaite blog would shrink by 90%.

Notice how fast he is labeled a white supremacist by the media? When it’s a Muslim or Islamist, mum’s the word, dummy, even as they yell alluah ackbar!

Joseph Glackin said:
Today in Spokane a white supremicist was charged with leaving a satchel charge at a MLK parade. Let’s go after the Aryan Nation!

We already do that, dumbass.

kvon said:
Odd how you Conservatives hate EVERYONE who is Muslim and in the public eye…very odd. They are ALL connected to terrorism. So strange. Such a coincidence. But of course, you guys aren’t racist. NNNNNOOOOOO. You’re just patriots protecting America. It’s Islam that is completely filled with terrorists, right? Party of Lincoln my ass. Lincoln wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.

Are you blogging from a cave in Afghanistan? Maybe your just 5 years old? Could it be you know you dont know anything and just write on here to stir things up?

Well, enough trying to make excuses for you. If none of the above apply you are just dumb as a stump and will start to be ignored on here, i’m sure of it.

kvon said:
Odd how you Conservatives hate EVERYONE who is Muslim and in the public eye…very odd. They are ALL connected to terrorism. So strange. Such a coincidence. But of course, you guys aren’t racist.

I welcome your proof on that.

Sky says:

What an Irony! yet your phony ass is blasting a whole community on the actions of a few.

It’s like talking ot a brick wall!! Where exactly did I do this?

Joseph Glackin—-Maybe you have not lived long in this country?you see the ATF and FBI have people who do nothing but keep an eye on the Aryan Nation ,KKK and other white supremacist groups.

Black and Gold Brad said:
Oh yes, I for one certainly remember the American people whipped into a frenzy after 9/11, roaming the streets and lynching anyone even suspected of being a muslim…

.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that.

I remember being so impressed by the symbolism of wearing white Burqas with the pointy head piece.

How could I forget so soon?

Now the GOP and Tea Party get to see how normal muslims are… and they will still hate them… because they are the type of people that can look a fellow citizen in the face, and yell “GO TO HELL” just because they practice a different religion.

Liberal Tormentor said:
This is the same guy who said the Constitution was a racist conspiracy.

Yeah, didn’t he write something crazy like the Constitution designated blacks as 3/5 of a person. What a nut.

Snowspot said:
Now the GOP and Tea Party get to see how normal muslims are… and they will still hate them… because they are the type of people that can look a fellow citizen in the face, and yell “GO TO HELL” just because they practice a different religion.

Yeah, especially when you’re talking about Jews. They really don’t like Jews.

ndanielson said:
Why are you leftists not as critical of Islam as you are of Christians?

Let’s see your list of Christian terrorists since 1980.

Or how about the short list of Christian Terrorists groups compared to this one:

Nice list of the world’s problems. We were talking about THIS country. I abhor violence. Period. I denounce it if it comes from Muslims, Christians, Aryans, Black Powerites, Anti-Semites, Ultra-Zionists, the KKK or whatever loony-tune group you can imagine.
To single out ANY group is to distort the problem. The problem is NOT the belief. The problem IS the actions of the believers. Ft. Hood was committed by a Muslim. Atlanta was committed by a Christian. BOTH were crimes. Yelling “Look what they’re doing!” while doing it yourself is hypocrisy.
Just because there is no a-b-c- link between King and an IRA bombing is not to say he is not responsible. The money raised in Irish bars for NORAID bought those bombs from Gaddhafi.

ndanielson said:
Why are you leftists not as critical of Islam as you are of Christians? Let’s see your list of Christian terrorists since 1980. Or how about the short list of Christian Terrorists groups compared to this one:

There’s a Bald-Faced Bigotry against Christians.

King’s hearings are powerful – the only ones talking about smearing people are CAIR & CAIR’s Democratic Supporters!

We should never judge an entire group by the actions of a few. When will all of those Republicans and Tea Partiers learn that?

CosmosDan said:
Yeah, didn’t he write something crazy like the Constitution designated blacks as 3/5 of a person. What a nut.

Yeah, That’s just idiotic, isn’t it? I wonder where he got that stupid idea. Maybe Farrakhan.

Pablo said:
Yeah, especially when you’re talking about Jews. They really don’t like Jews.

You’re someone that obviously doesn’t understand the complexities of that region. Muslims don’t hate Jews, they hate Israel.. and last time I checked American Jews aren’t Israeli’s. Plus, you don’t combat irrational hate with more irrational hate.

Great, they hate Jews, you hate Muslims, you’re equal.

writer said:
We should never judge an entire group by the actions of a few. When will all of those Republicans and Tea Partiers learn that?

The only people raising this perspective are on the Democratic Left.
– the only ones talking about smearing people are CAIR & CAIR’s Democratic Supporters!

Joseph Glackin said:
I abhor violence. Period. I denounce it if it comes from Muslims, Christians, Aryans, Black Powerites, Anti-Semites, Ultra-Zionists, the KKK or whatever loony-tune group you can imagine.

How about the locusts that are currently storming the Wisconsin Capitol and terrorizing the Legislature?

CosmosDan said:
Yeah, didn’t he write something crazy like the Constitution designated blacks as 3/5 of a person. What a nut.

Liberals still call the unborn 0/5ths and 0bama is still down with that. Dummy. Many muslims still own slaves, and believe in slavery, dummy. WHAT IS the value of an infidel, to a muslim, dummy? Many muslim women are still chattel, dummy. Many muslims still marry 12-13 year olds, dummy. You nuts have no problem with religion of that sort. Dummy.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
No, I doubt she wants a war, but she might be persuaded into supporting concentration camps and gulags. Most of them would likely be in wastelands like Utah. She could hire on as a guard. Can you believe what she and INB are saying? What is wrong with our nation that we have such creatures among us?

“Camps and gulags?” LOL!!! And that’s supposed to be one of your cards against us, you know, that “fear mongering” nonsense. Clown.

Pablo said:
How about the locusts that are currently storming the Wisconsin Capitol and terrorizing the Legislature?

Don’t forget the peaceful death threats that are pouring in.

Pablo said:
How about the locusts that are currently storming the Wisconsin Capitol and terrorizing the Legislature?

You’re a real weenie if you’re afraid of protestors that are teachers, hahahaha, “terrorizing” what a pansy.

CosmosDan says:
Liberal Tormentor said:
This is the same guy who said the Constitution was a racist conspiracy.

Yeah, didn’t he write something crazy like the Constitution designated blacks as 3/5 of a person. What a nut.

Dan, i’m sure you are smart enough to realize this was done in an effort to END slavery, right?

Speaking of the constitution…did anybody here what jesse jackson jr. had to say yesterday? Full fledged commy!

Snowspot said:
Muslims don’t hate Jews, they hate Israel.. and last time I checked American Jews aren’t Israeli’s

And you know this how?

Great, they hate Jews, you hate Muslims, you’re equal.

No, i don’t hate them. That’s why I don’t do stuff like this to them. It’s my hate deficit.

And Snowjob, you are can repeat every hour on the hour until you die that we hate ALL Muslims, but that won’t make it true. Perhaps you are projecting.

Snowspot said:
You’re a real weenie if you’re afraid of protestors that are teachers, hahahaha, “terrorizing” what a pansy.

Protesters don’t climb in the windows. Protesters don’t forcefully stop a legislature from meeting.

Why would I be afraid of them when they’re storming a building a thousand miles from me?

ImNotBlue said:
The problem is the left inherently (for some reason) is compelled to “fight for the little guy.” And while that sounds good… the problem is, “the little guy” isn’t always correct. So in a fight between “Muslims” and “America,” they’re going to side with “Muslims,” because they’re the “little guy.”

That’s also far to simplistic. The fact is that standing up for America means admitting when we are wrong and when we’ve done things we shouldn’t have. It’s also true that sincere people with real love and concern for their country can have different opinions about how best to approach complex issues.

Snowspot said:
You’re a real weenie if you’re afraid of protestors that are teachers, hahahaha, “terrorizing” what a pansy.

Well one of them sent this email to Republican’s:

Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes
will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain
to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it
will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit
that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for
more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.

WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in
the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me
have decided that we’ve had enough. We feel that you and the people that
support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing
with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand
for it any longer. So, this is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many
others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records.
We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a
nice little bullet in your head. However, we decided that we wouldn’t leave
it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the
message to you since you are so “high” on Koch and have decided that you are
now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a
demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed
in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent.
This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won’t
tell you all of them because that’s just no fun. Since we know that you are
not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided
to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it’s
necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making
them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families
and themselves then We Will “get rid of” (in which I mean kill) you. Please
understand that this does not include the heroic Rep. Senator that risked
everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. We feel
that it’s worth our lives to do this, because we would be saving the lives
of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and
say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. YOU WILL DIE!!!!

Perhaps it was one of your friends.

Liberal Tormentor said:
And Snowjob, you are can repeat every hour on the hour until you die that we hate ALL Muslims, but that won’t make it true. Perhaps you are projecting.

No, sometimes people are racist… you guys are all racist against Muslims and you will be for the rest of your lives, it’s probably how you were raised, or it might have been 9/11 hysteria… but I’m sorry to say, the right wing is mostly filled with people that call muslims terrorists.. it’s racism, it’s the same as being anti-semetic, if you can’t see that you’re blind.

@Pablo, almost everyone knows that Muslims don’t hate Jews, I know this because I HAVE muslim friends(SHOCK), they hate Israel because it meddles with the Middle East and is taking over palestine…In the middle east, people connect Israel to America, so really, Muslims hate America because of the foreign policies of Israel.

CosmosDan said:
That’s also far to simplistic. The fact is that standing up for America means admitting when we are wrong and when we’ve done things we shouldn’t have. It’s also true that sincere people with real love and concern for their country can have different opinions about how best to approach complex issues.

You’re saying we should ignore the fact that radical muslims are here in the US and want to kill you and me?

Pablo said:
Protesters don’t climb in the windows. Protesters don’t forcefully stop a legislature from meeting.

Why would I be afraid of them when they’re storming a building a thousand miles from me?

Thats just America taking the country back, it’s not about right vs left anymore… most of those teachers in wisconsin were probably conservative when this started, they elected a Republican after all, Fox News and the GOP is getting really bad press from this too, it will lose the election for them :-x

Religion of Peace said:
Speaking of the constitution…did anybody here what jesse jackson jr. had to say yesterday? Full fledged commy!

Wasn’t that something? He’s a typical liberal that believes everything grows on trees, and is produced with pixie dust. http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/08/jesse-jackson-jr-lets-solve-unemployment-by-adding-lots-of-new-rights-to-the-constitution/

Snowspot said:
Muslims don’t hate Jews, they hate Israel

.
I defy you to stand by that statement after viewing the three videos here:

http://israel1.org/2010/hamas-cartoons/

Get back after you’ve checked it out.

Snowspot said:
No, sometimes people are racist… you guys are all racist against Muslims

Muslim isn’t a race, wetspot. Try again.

Religion of Peace said:
THE REAL ROYAL KING says: There’s NOTHING real about you. Have a wonderful day.

How about REAL stupid? :)

Snowspot said:
No, sometimes people are racist… you guys are all racist against Muslims

Islam is not a race, no matter how many times you claim otherwise.

Snowjob says:

No, sometimes people are racist… you guys are all racist against Muslims and you will be for the rest of your lives, it’s probably how you were raised, or it might have been 9/11 hysteria… but I’m sorry to say, the right wing is mostly filled with people that call muslims terrorists.. it’s racism, it’s the same as being anti-semetic, if you can’t see that you’re blind.

Prove it!

Grammie said:
.
I defy you to stand by that statement after viewing the three videos here:

http://israel1.org/2010/hamas-cartoons/

Get back after you’ve checked it out.

Nice smackdown, Grammie! Get ready to be called every name in the book!

I think FDR had the right approach. Lock them all up, just to make sure.

Snowspot said:
Thats just America taking the country back,

Americans do that at the ballot box, not by climbing in windows and preventing legislatures from doing their work. I don’t know about teachers. All I see is a moving wall of human scum. And Jesse Jackson. But I repeat myself.

Joseph Glackin said:
By your rules, Tucson was an infiltration by?

By a lone gunman, working alone. What group was he part of? What organization did he espouse the beliefs of?

. Today in Spokane a white supremicist was charged with leaving a satchel charge at a MLK parade. Let’s go after the Aryan Nation!

If the Aryan’s are becoming a real threat, and have real actions (not heated rhetoric), then why not?! Have a hearing. But as far as I know, the Aryan’s have become so well contained, that they’re left mostly obnoxious websites, an occasional protest, and that’s pretty much it. If they become violent (like they were in earlier days), hold hearings.

Let’s go after everyone who hates members of govt.! The Mediaite blog would shrink by 90%.

You realize that would mean the left would go too, right? Don’t they hate folks… folks like, oh, I don’t know… Peter King?

Snowspot said:
Now the GOP and Tea Party get to see how normal muslims are… and they will still hate them… because they are the type of people that can look a fellow citizen in the face, and yell “GO TO HELL” just because they practice a different religion.

What do you think about the folks testifying today… the Blacks, the Muslims, the people who have direct experience with Radical Islam, and think we as a country need to do more to protect our citizens. Are they racists and hateful too?

The stories you tell, Sky are interesting… but totally detached from reality. I have no idea what you’re watching, or what you think is happening… but it’s not reality.

Snowspot said:
You’re someone that obviously doesn’t understand the complexities of that region. Muslims don’t hate Jews, they hate Israel.. and last time I checked American Jews aren’t Israeli’s. Plus, you don’t combat irrational hate with more irrational hate. Great, they hate Jews, you hate Muslims, you’re equal.

Yeah… except that’s not really true. Some radical Muslims expressly hate Jews… and not just because of Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism

Snowspot said:
You’re a real weenie if you’re afraid of protestors that are teachers, hahahaha, “terrorizing” what a pansy.

Yeah… if only they were old people like the “teabaggers.” They’re the people we need to be afraid of.

Right?

CosmosDan said:
That’s also far to simplistic. The fact is that standing up for America means admitting when we are wrong and when we’ve done things we shouldn’t have. It’s also true that sincere people with real love and concern for their country can have different opinions about how best to approach complex issues.

Yes, it is simplistic. But again, I’m not talking about “loving America.” I believe this is an over-arching philosophy that is somewhat unique to the left. Helping the “little guy.” It’s almost like a hero complex… a need to rescue the damsel in distress. I think when evaluating a situation, a left-winger is more likely to see the situation in terms of “little or big” and make their decision to support one over the other based on that.

Again, America just happens to be the topic often… but it’s not necessarily (IMO) about America.

Snowspot said:
No, sometimes people are racist… you guys are all racist against Muslims and you will be for the rest of your lives, it’s probably how you were raised, or it might have been 9/11 hysteria… but I’m sorry to say, the right wing is mostly filled with people that call muslims terrorists.. it’s racism, it’s the same as being anti-semetic, if you can’t see that you’re blind.

Flat out wrong.

@Pablo, almost everyone knows that Muslims don’t hate Jews, I know this because I HAVE muslim friends(SHOCK), they hate Israel because it meddles with the Middle East and is taking over palestine…In the middle east, people connect Israel to America, so really, Muslims hate America because of the foreign policies of Israel.

And wrong again. Two for two!

writer said:
I think FDR had the right approach. Lock them all up, just to make sure.

Then we’d be no better than the greatest liberal hero in the history of this country. Is that what you want to be? A leftist?

boo hoo hoo, PRAISE ALLAH, boo hoo hoo, PRAISE ALLAH, boo hoo hoo, PRAISE ALLAH, boo hoo hoo, PRAISE ALLAH….

Sounds like just another one of the muslim chants. Was he facing Mecca when he did this?

Snowspot said:
Thats just America taking the country back, it’s not about right vs left anymore… most of those teachers in wisconsin were probably conservative when this started, they elected a Republican after all, Fox News and the GOP is getting really bad press from this too, it will lose the election for them :-x

Dumb as snot, aren’t you? 680 legislative seats went republican in NOVEMBER. A MODERN ERA RECORD. Some of them HARD right. WI was taken by the TEA PARTY. You talk about taking our country BACK!? You ain’t seen nothing yet. 2012 GOT here a little early this year. Dems are already bowing out of re-election in 2012, and there are more dems on the chopping block than republicans to begin with!

INB, guess who named his cat after FDR. Eagle says I’m not allowed to mention his name, so I’ll just let you guess.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Dan, i’m sure you are smart enough to realize this was done in an effort to END slavery, right?

I know that’s an argument being made, but it doesn’t change the reality of it being there. If you’re going to imply something about this black man let’s be accurate. And it was 20+ years ago right?
When this new congress began they decided to read the Constitution out loud as a symbolic gesture. Guess which section they left out and why?

Ah, we’re investigating terrorist threats. Probably non-Muslim. Good.

Grammie said:
.
I defy you to stand by that statement after viewing the three videos here:

http://israel1.org/2010/hamas-cartoons/

Get back after you’ve checked it out.

Hamas is talking about Israel… and posting one video does not mean all Muslims hate Jews. Not even all Muslims dislike Israel, although in general I think they are introduced to the point of view where Israel is taking over palestinian land. I understand the palestinian point of view of why they want Israel to leave but I dont understand Israel’s point of view, or why it wants to be in such a volatile region.

CosmosDan said:
When this new congress began they decided to read the Constitution out loud as a symbolic gesture. Guess which section they left out and why?

All of the parts that have been amended out of relevance.

Snowspot said:
Not even all Muslims dislike Israel,

Yes, the 25% of its population that is Muslim seem to like it. But you said they hate it. Hmmmm….

Pablo said:
Ah, we’re investigating terrorist threats. Probably non-Muslim. Good.

Let’s not jump to conclusions. It’s probably just a lone person with mental issues or someone who’s angry about health care reform. Unions is a religion of peace!

and posting one video does not mean all Muslims hate Jews.

—–

A-hole, NOBODY said that!

Snowspot said:
You’re a real weenie if you’re afraid of protestors that are teachers, hahahaha, “terrorizing” what a pansy.

Thugs don’t get their way? Threaten people with death.

The following is the unedited email:

Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.

WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we’ve had enough. We feel that you and the people that support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand for it any longer. So, this is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records. We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, we decided that we wouldn’t leave it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message to you since you are so “high” on Koch and have decided that you are now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent. This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won’t tell you all of them because that’s just no fun. Since we know that you are not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it’s necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then We Will “get rid of” (in which I mean kill) you. Please understand that this does not include the heroic Rep. Senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. We feel that it’s worth our lives to do this, because we would be saving the lives of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. YOU WILL DIE!!!!

http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2011/03/irony-wisconsin-lawmakers-getting-death.html

ImNotBlue said:
Yes, it is simplistic. But again, I’m not talking about “loving America.” I believe this is an over-arching philosophy that is somewhat unique to the left. Helping the “little guy.” It’s almost like a hero complex… a need to rescue the damsel in distress. I think when evaluating a situation, a left-winger is more likely to see the situation in terms of “little or big” and make their decision to support one over the other based on that.

Again, America just happens to be the topic often… but it’s not necessarily (IMO) about America.

OKay. Thanks for the explanation. I think it’s a valid point in a general way. I think there might be several over arching philosophies that we might find more often in the left or right, that aren’t necessarily a matter of right or wrong, simply a tendency towards something.

Pablo said:
Yes, the 25% of its population that is Muslim seem to like it. But you said they hate it. Hmmmm….

You can focus on wordplay and trying to twist what I say into meaning something else or imply I’m stuipid, but I have to say, none of your posts ever seem to have any information, you just sit there and think of witty but hollow comebacks to left-wing comments. You seem to talk alot but say nothing :P

The readership seems to think otherwise, snowjob.

Pablo says:
Snowspot said:
Thats just America taking the country back,

Americans do that at the ballot box

Well, rational ones. Not loony libs. They resort to violence and chaos. It’s what they know and are comfortable with.

Snowspot said:
Hamas is talking about Israel… and posting one video does not mean all Muslims hate Jews. Not even all Muslims dislike Israel, although in general I think they are introduced to the point of view where Israel is taking over palestinian land.

Where is the country of Palestine again?

And I have a feeling no amount of Muslim anti-Semitism would register in your mind. You believe what you believe, and evidence to the contrary is unwanted and unwelcomed.

I understand the palestinian point of view of why they want Israel to leave but I dont understand Israel’s point of view, or why it wants to be in such a volatile region.

This is very honest of you… but I think we already figured you don’t actually understand the issue.

CosmosDan said:
OKay. Thanks for the explanation. I think it’s a valid point in a general way. I think there might be several over arching philosophies that we might find more often in the left or right, that aren’t necessarily a matter of right or wrong, simply a tendency towards something.

Agreed.

Ellison is a shit stirrer who doesn’t know how many problems he will be putting into the political discourse about Muslims. He probably believes this will get him reelected by the many anti-Muslim bigots among evangelicals. I have received more hate mail against Muslims from Christians through the internet that can be imagined. Too bad the real Christians can’t seem to do anything about these wayward Evangelicals.

Saw Ellison’s performance. This guy should be up for an emmy and to think the democrats dis the Speaker for his occasional show of emotion.

murphy0071 said:
Ellison is a shit stirrer who doesn’t know how many problems he will be putting into the political discourse about Muslims. He probably believes this will get him reelected by the many anti-Muslim bigots among evangelicals. I have received more hate mail against Muslims from Christians through the internet that can be imagined. Too bad the real Christians can’t seem to do anything about these wayward Evangelicals.

Well said. Now, just for laughs, how about you watch the video and see how completely wrong everything you just said is?

NORBIT Jr. said:
There’s a Bald-Faced Bigotry against Christians.

It’s not bigotry, bozo. The Christ I remember said something about beams and motes. (Matthew 7:5) The Christian community in this country has a lot to answer for before it challenges any one else.

Snowspot said:
Hamas is talking about Israel… and posting one video does not mean all Muslims hate Jews. Not even all Muslims dislike Israel, although in general I think they are introduced to the point of view where Israel is taking over palestinian land. I understand the palestinian point of view of why they want Israel to leave but I dont understand Israel’s point of view, or why it wants to be in such a volatile region.

There are THREE videos, representative of the genre, and they are specific about JEWS.

You are not blind. You choose to not see.

Joseph Glackin said:
It’s not bigotry, bozo. The Christ I remember said something about beams and motes. (Matthew 7:5) The Christian community in this country has a lot to answer for before it challenges any one else.

I expect you’ll hold the Muslim community to the same standard? You must find it pretty rich for Muslims to cry about being persecuted until they answer for oppressing pretty much everything that isn’t the right kind of Muslim.

It dose not help that the Conucil on American Islamic Relations, launched an anti FBI campaign in Oakland Ca ,”Build a wall of resistance don’t talk to the FBI”.

BadGenome said:
I expect you’ll hold the Muslim community to the same standard? You must find it pretty rich for Muslims to cry about being persecuted until they answer for oppressing pretty much everything that isn’t the right kind of Muslim.

The ENTIRE POINT of the scripture cited is that no, you don’t hold any one else to standards. Unless you can live by John 8:7, you are not a true Christian. Put your stones in your bag, or admit you are as much of an infidel as the Muslims are.

ndanielson said:
Liberals still call the unborn 0/5ths and 0bama is still down with that. Dummy. Many muslims still own slaves, and believe in slavery, dummy. WHAT IS the value of an infidel, to a muslim, dummy? Many muslim women are still chattel, dummy. Many muslims still marry 12-13 year olds, dummy. You nuts have no problem with religion of that sort. Dummy.

While I appreciate you new self deprecating signature line as very entertaining, I’d suggest you identify yourself just once at the end rather than after every sentence. But hey, it’s your signature so you decide.

Joseph Glackin said:
The ENTIRE POINT of the scripture cited is that no, you don’t hold any one else to standards. Unless you can live by John 8:7, you are not a true Christian. Put your stones in your bag, or admit you are as much of an infidel as the Muslims are.

Well, I’m not a Christian. This isn’t news to me.

Religion of Peace said:
You’re saying we should ignore the fact that radical muslims are here in the US and want to kill you and me?

WTF!!!?? I fail to understand how people read ridiculous shit into something that doesn’t even remotely resemble the meaning of the actual words. It happens way to often.

Um,…No I didn’t say anything like that at all.

CosmosDan said:
While I appreciate you new self deprecating signature line as very entertaining, I’d suggest you identify yourself just once at the end rather than after every sentence. But hey, it’s your signature so you decide.

Pretty much failed English, too? Dummy. – ndanielson.

See how a signature works now, dummy? -ndanielson. I doubt you can. Dummy.

CosmosDan said:
I fail to understand

We understand. Dummy.

No religion is without their Savanarolas. No religion lacks those who will hear “…I never knew you. Depart from me you evildoers”.

tatboy said:
Fort Hood. I will let others cont to post examples.

Rich Ried. (British, but being though they’re as free as us it counts)
John Walker Lindh. (California)
Adam Gadhan. (California)

And these are the easy ones just off the top of my head.

(I note none of these locations are American but I figured i’d throw them in anyway) :)

Steve_27 said:
Rich Ried. (British, but being though they’re as free as us it counts)
John Walker Lindh. (California)
Adam Gadhan. (California)

And these are the easy ones just off the top of my head.

(I note none of these locations are American but I figured i’d throw them in anyway) :)

Again, see if you can match this small list of terrorist attacks:

Main article: List of Islamic terrorist attacks
The outer skin of World Trade Center Tower Two that remained standing after an Islamist terrorist attack orchestrated by Al-Qaeda.

* 18 April 1983 – 1983 United States embassy bombing 63 killed, 120 wounded.
* 23 October 1983 – 1983 Beirut barracks bombing 305 killed, 75 wounded.
* 26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.
* 13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. 250 dead, 700 injured.
* 28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation. 85 dead, more than 300 injured.
* 24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.
* 25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
* 17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.
* 14 February 1998 – Bombing in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 13 bombs explode within a 12 km radius. 46 killed and over 200 injured.
* 7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.
* 4 September 1999 – A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, nearly 300 killed.
* 12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.
* 11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[195]
* 13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on Indian parliament in New Delhi by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. 7 dead, 12 injured.
* 27 March 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.
* 30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 – Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.
* 7 May 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
* 24 September 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[196][197]
* 12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[198]
* 16 May 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafia Jihadia.
* 11 March 2004 – Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).
* 1 September 2004 – Beslan school hostage crisis, approximately 344 civilians including 186 children killed.[199][200]
* 2 November 2004 – The murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.[201]
* 4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.
* 5 July 2005 – Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.
* 7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
* 23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
* 29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[202]
* 9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan. Over 60 killed and 115 injured.[203][204] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[205]
* 7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. A series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi. 28 killed and over 100 injured.[206]
* 11 July 2006 – 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings, Mumbai, India; a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai. 209 killed and over 700 injured.
* 14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq’s Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war’s attack to date.
* 26 July 2008 – 2008 Ahmedabad bombings, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 21 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 56 dead and 200 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence.[207] Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.[208]
* 13 September 2008 – Bombing series in Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead and 130 injured, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 3 people dead.
* 26 November 2008 – Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India’s largest city and financial capital, Mumbai. The government of India blamed Pakistan based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba and stated that the terrorists killed/caught were citizens of Pakistan, a claim which the Pakistani government first refused but then accepted when given proof. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.[209][210]
* 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.
* 28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 killed and over 200 injured.
* 3 December 2009 – Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.[211]
* 1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 100 people.[212]
* 1 May 2010 – New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received U.S. citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.
* 28 May 2010 – Attacks on Ahmadi Mosques Lahore, Pakistan. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed attacks on two mosques simultaneously belonging to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, killing nearly 100 and injuring many others.

Or a list of Christian hate groups as long as this one:

U.S. State Department list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations

* Abu Sayyaf, Philippines
* Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, Gaza Strip and West Bank
* Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya, Egypt (also known as The Islamic Group)
* Al-Qaeda, worldwide
* Al-Shabaab, Somalia
* Ansar al-Islam, Iraq
* Armed Islamic Group (GIA), Algeria
* Jamaat Ansar al-Sunna, Iraq
* East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), China
* Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Egypt
* Great Eastern Islamic Raiders’ Front (IBDA-C), Turkey
* Hamas, Gaza Strip and West Bank

* Harkat-ul-Mujahideen al-Alami, Pakistan
* Hezbollah, Lebanon
* Islamic Movement of Central Asia, Central Asia
* Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, Uzbekistan
* Jaish-e-Mohammed, Pakistan and Kashmir
* Jemaah Islamiyah, Indonesia
* Lashkar-e-Taiba, Pakistan and Kashmir
* Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Pakistan
* Moro Islamic Liberation Front, Philippines
* Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group, Morocco and Europe
* Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Gaza Strip and West Bank
* Tawhid and Jihad (Al-Qaeda in the Land between the Two Rivers), Iraq

skyfet said:
Phonies like King, who only served in the National Guard would have us believe that Muslims constantly need to show whose side they are on, when many fought and died in Iraq, and other services like these First responders.

Do you have any idea what it’s like to serve in the Guard? Do you know how many KIA’s were from the Guard? Only served in the National Guard? Words cannot explain you. You libs paddle around in the sewer, never knowing where you are.

It’s interesting that the kleft in this country and seemingly many on this board seem to think that:

All was cool with the Muslims until 1947 and the Balfour act created Isreal.
They had no beef until we started supporting Jews.
They didn’t hate us until we helped the Brits overthrow Mosaddeq in Iran.
They had no beef until we started getting their oil.
they had no beef until we came to liberate Kuwait.

Perhaps if you spent more time in a history book and less time jacking your jibs here you would know that the Islam – western civilzation divide has been around since the 20′s. You might peep a book written by a guy some refer to as the grandfather of the Muslim Brotherhood…..his brother radicalized OBL’s #2 guy al-Zawahiri in SA……called Milestones. The man is Sayyid Qutb. He was educated here and then returned to Egypt to forment terror with his MB pals. It eventually cost him his freedom and then his life.

Milestones as well as other Qutb musings are VERY enlightening.

He found us bourgeois. He railed on our “allowing” women to attend church with their families……more to the point….their men. He was agast at diplays of public affection like those vertibale porn acts like hand holding and kissing. He even railed about us mowing our yards.

When he returned to the ME he joined up with the MB with other like minded Muslims in decrying the creep of the west. They were aghast at the progressive nature of places like Cairo and Lebanon. They sought to prevent ME people from joining the 20th century while miring them in 6th century barbarism.

I also find it interesting that few mention that during WWII the MB and other like minded Muslims joined up with the Third Reich and Hitler. But they are NOT bad guys.

Nooooooooooo……..

ndanielson said:
Pretty much failed English, too? Dummy. – ndanielson.

See how a signature works now, dummy? -ndanielson. I doubt you can. Dummy.

It’s really not necessary to type your screen name after your signature,I knew who it was. but again, it’s up to you.

I appreciated what Ellison had to say. Here’s the transcript,

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/03/keith-ellisons-testimony-at-the-muslim-radicalization-hearing/72294/

I think he left out the last as he got emotional
“Mr. Hamdani bravely sacrificed his life to try and help others on 9/11. After the tragedy some people tried to smear his character solely because of his Islamic faith. Some people spread false rumors and speculated that he was in league with the attackers only because he was Muslim. It was only when his remains were identified that these lies were fully exposed.

Mohammed Salman Hamdani was a fellow American who gave his life for other Americans. His life should not be defined as a member of an ethnic group or a member of a religion, but as an American who gave everything for his fellow citizens.

Mohammed Salman Hamdani is us. He is every American. He is our neighbor. If we make him the problem, we all lose. If we engage him in the solution, America and the world will be a more vibrant, safer place for us and our children.”

The Tears of a Clown.
I’d wager a dinner at Ruth Criss that this “Nation of Islam” supporting jackwagon cheers when an American soldier comes home in a body bag.

CosmosDan said:
It’s really not necessary to type your screen name after your signature,I knew who it was. but again, it’s up to you.

You mean like “cobra” the racist does?

CosmosDan—-”I fail to understand how people read ridiculous shit into something that doesn’t even remotely resemble the meaning of the actual words”. Like people who say the constitution”designated blacks as 3/5 of a person”.

So predictable.

A thread can be up for days, or weeks and have 3 pages of comments.

Put up a thread which talks about not only a Muslim, but he is BLACK!!!!!

6 pages of comments in under 1 hour.
almost 10 pages in just a few hours.

What a bunch of RACIST TEABAGGERS.

Aw, such a cute little namejacker…here’s a cookie.

DEFENDER-90 said:
CosmosDan—-”I fail to understand how people read ridiculous shit into something that doesn’t even remotely resemble the meaning of the actual words”. Like people who say the constitution”designated blacks as 3/5 of a person”.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons

How many other persons were not free and not Indian?

Penguin60 said:
Do you have any idea what it’s like to serve in the Guard? Do you know how many KIA’s were from the Guard? Only served in the National Guard? Words cannot explain you. You libs paddle around in the sewer, never knowing where you are.

PPengy, you doesn’t know whereof you speak. Skyfet is not talking about the Guard that W used and abused to fight his private wars in South Asia. He’s talking about the Guard W belonged to, that sat home waiting for the Russkies while the draftees and Reg. Army enlistees died in South East Asia.
The country has changed. The Guard used to be the hideout for chickenhawks. You could wear the uniform without ever being in a spot where you might get killed for it.

Dan, the namejacker just called YOU a racist.

CosmosDan said:
His life should not be defined as a member of an ethnic group or a member of a religion, but as an American who gave everything for his fellow citizens.

Agreed. Then why does the left love to categorize individuals.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Right. The classic Mormon massacre method is shooting people as they are fleeing. The account, in summary form: After the Fancher party left Cedar City, frustrated with the refusal of local Mormons to sell them needed goods, they continued southwest through the mountain pass called Mountain Meadows. There they were attacked by Mormon assailants, some of them killed. The remaining emigrants pulled their wagons into a tight circle for protection. Over the next five days, the emigrants were held at siege in their wagon circle. During this period they were attacked two more times. On September 11, 1857, John D. Lee entered the wagon circle with a white flag, convincing the emigrants to surrender peacefully. Required to put down their guns, the women and children were escorted out first, then the men and boys. Each man and boy was escorted by an armed militiaman. They walked about a mile when, upon a predetermined signal, the militiamen turned and fired on each man and boy. Indians who had been convinced to participate in the massacre came out from their hiding places to attack the women and children. For further reading: http://mountainmeadowsmassacre.com/

Wow you only had to go back 164 years to dredge this up.

And before you blow a gasket……yes it was wrong for them to kill those people. Were a single one of those who did the deeds alive today I would hold them down so you could skin them.

But we don’t have to travel back a hundred plus years to find the latest example of Muslim murder now do we?

Maybe yours is simply an issue with timing. You need to get back to 1857 and start a hearing.

All you need is a Delorean.

Religion of Peace said:
Dan, the namejacker just called YOU a racist.

Why the new name Olby?

OxyCon said:
The Tears of a Clown.
I’d wager a dinner at Ruth Criss that this “Nation of Islam” supporting jackwagon cheers when an American soldier comes home in a body bag.

You are a cad and a buffoon. Westboro Baptist welcomes you. I wouldn’t cheer if YOUR body showed up in a body bag.

All you need is a Delorean.

——

LOL!

VoiceofReason said:
All you need is a Delorean.

You forgot the Flux Capacitor.

Joseph Glackin said:
You are a cad and a buffoon. Westboro Baptist welcomes you. I wouldn’t cheer if YOUR body showed up in a body bag.

Wow. Just wow. Why are these losers allowed to post? Must be that “civility” that obama chants about, right?

Before any one out there starts doing their “civility” thing, first research and the word “taquiyya” defined as it is directed in the Koran…then we’ll talk! Because then, it is: if 98% of the media and academia are uberprogressive leftys (by their own admission!) how can you believe one word printed or spoken?

Religion of Peace, I think you’re taking that body bag comment out of context.

CosmosDan said:
Yeah, didn’t he write something crazy like the Constitution designated blacks as 3/5 of a person. What a nut.

Yeah that whole bunch of abolitionists among the Founders certainly hated black people. All those black people serving in Washington’s army were the most hated right? All those black people that helped the Founders and were themselves actually Founders were bad.

You know if you hadn’t believed every word from your lib racist indoctrinators you would know more about the role of blacks in the founding of this great nation.

Pity.

Liberal Tormentor said:
This is the same guy who said the Constitution was a racist conspiracy. If you’d like to see him in person, he will soon be teaming up with Louis Farrakhan and a couple other DEM’s

No. 3 House Dem to Join Louis Farrakhan for Program on ‘Disappearing Black Community’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/no-3-house-dem-to-join-louis-farrakhan-for-program-on-disappearing-black-community/

Anyone who thinks Louis is someone to be admired has problems.

Oh…the original draft of the Constitution was FAIR to non-whites?

Really?

Show me WHERE.

–Cobra

Snowspot said:
No, sometimes people are racist… you guys are all racist against Muslims and you will be for the rest of your lives, it’s probably how you were raised, or it might have been 9/11 hysteria… but I’m sorry to say, the right wing is mostly filled with people that call muslims terrorists.. it’s racism, it’s the same as being anti-semetic, if you can’t see that you’re blind. @Pablo, almost everyone knows that Muslims don’t hate Jews, I know this because I HAVE muslim friends(SHOCK), they hate Israel because it meddles with the Middle East and is taking over palestine…In the middle east, people connect Israel to America, so really, Muslims hate America because of the foreign policies of Israel.

Funny but they fought against before Isreal was even in existence.

I guess your muslim friends forgot to tell you about that.

NutSosmart—-there were blacks who obtendede there freedom in the south at the height of slavery.
When they did they were no longer 3/5 a”person”,they were then counted as a WHOLE person .
You do know there were blacks who owned slaves?

VoiceofReason said:
Yeah that whole bunch of abolitionists among the Founders certainly hated black people. All those black people serving in Washington’s army were the most hated right? All those black people that helped the Founders and were themselves actually Founders were bad.

You know if you hadn’t believed every word from your lib racist indoctrinators you would know more about the role of blacks in the founding of this great nation.

Pity.

Washington was a SLAVE OWNER, Voice. He didn’t release his slaves until after his own death. Second, read up on the history of Washington having Black troops serve in the Continental Army. He only allowed it because he was RUNNING OUT OF TROOPS:

“By the end of the war about ten percent of General Washington’s army would be “people of color.” (About three to five thousand people of color would fight for America.) This would be remarkable in two aspects. First, many enslaved blacks had little faith they would be given their freedom at the end of the war. After all, the only thing these substitute soldiers and runaway slaves had to trust in would be the word and good intentions of their master or of other whites. Secondly, General Washington made a proclamation at Cambridge in 1775, that neither free blacks nor slaves would be allowed to join the Continental Army, despite their early involvement in the war as Minutemen.”

http://www.ushistory.org/washingtoncrossing/history/contribution.htm

–Cobra

Liberal Tormentor said:Well, rational ones. Not loony libs. They resort to violence and chaos. It’s what they know and are comfortable with.

Just before they split for Illini state!!!

One of Shaka Zulu’s generals, Soshangane, was know for conquering tribes to the north and setting up a deal to sell them to the Portugese.

This has been a moment in black history. Learn more.

ndanielson said:
Again, see if you can match this small list of terrorist attacks: Or a list of Christian hate groups as long as this one:

I know. Good work.

thumbs up WRITER ,MY BAD

MG, another pathetic crying ,libby loser at work again.

Cobra said:
Washington was a SLAVE OWNER

That has zero to do with the topic of this post, you flaming racist!

skyfet said:
Phonies like King, who only served in the National Guard

Hey, (-), just which branch of the military did Barry serve in?

Cobra said:
Washington was a SLAVE OWNER, Voice. He didn’t release his slaves until after his own death. Second, read up on the history of Washington having Black troops serve in the Continental Army. He only allowed it because he was RUNNING OUT OF TROOPS: “By the end of the war about ten percent of General Washington’s army would be “people of color.” (About three to five thousand people of color would fight for America.) This would be remarkable in two aspects. First, many enslaved blacks had little faith they would be given their freedom at the end of the war. After all, the only thing these substitute soldiers and runaway slaves had to trust in would be the word and good intentions of their master or of other whites. Secondly, General Washington made a proclamation at Cambridge in 1775, that neither free blacks nor slaves would be allowed to join the Continental Army, despite their early involvement in the war as Minutemen.” http://www.ushistory.org/washingtoncrossing/history/contribution.htm –Cobra

Bullshit. Several of the colonies had moved to abolish slavery before we even declared independence. the King vetoes that notion. In fact 6 of the 13 colonies moved to abolish slavery the minute we declared. the hero of Bunker Hill was a black man. Peter Salem. Washington PERSONALLY honored his bravery.

More from Wallbuilders……OWNERS of original source material…..not whitewashed liberal crap told as gospel long enough for it to be included like fact a more than likely lefty run website……..

And Pastor Lemuel Haynes was involved in several major Revolutionary battles and became an ardent admirer of George Washington, regularly preaching sermons on Washington’s birthday. This patriot preacher was the first African American to be ordained by a mainstream Christian denomination (the Congregationalists, in 1785), to pastor a white congregation (a congregation in Connecticut), and to be awarded an honorary Master’s Degree (by Middlebury College, in 1804). Yet who today has heard of Lemuel Haynes?

Or who has heard of James Armistead, the courageous spy at Yorktown whose remarkable service considerably shortened the War? Or Oliver Cromwell and Prince Whipple (depicted in several famous Revolutionary War paintings) who served directly under General Washington and the general staff? Or Jordan Freeman, the gallant soldier to whom a monument was erected for his heroic service at the Battle of Groton Heights?

ON THE GENERAL STAFF…….you catch that?

Please. I got most of my education before nutballs implemented the DoE and really started brainwashing y’all.

WAKE UP!!!!!!

He didn’t release his slaves until after his own death.
———-

Huh? He gave orders from his grave?

Religion of Peace said:
Wow. Just wow. Why are these losers allowed to post? Must be that “civility” that obama chants about, right?

Why is Oxycon allowed to say, “Liberals would cheer when soldier’s bodies come home in body bags.”?
That is what I object to. I missed the civility in that.
The robo-bloggers from the oxyright jump at every chance to take a line out of context and warp it into something they can ridicule. It’s not a sign of intelligence.
You clowns are rough on the table.
There’s an axiom from Trial Law 101:
If the law is on your side, pound the law.
If the facts are on your side, pound the facts.
If neither are on your side, pound the table.

Religion of Peace said:
He didn’t release his slaves until after his own death.
———-

Huh? He gave orders from his grave?

May I call you Alexander? (Go watch the library scene in “Shawshank Redemption”)
He freed his slaves in his will.

Joseph Glackin said:
Why is Oxycon allowed to say, “Liberals would cheer when soldier’s bodies come home in body bags.”?That is what I object to. I missed the civility in that.The robo-bloggers from the oxyright jump at every chance to take a line out of context and warp it into something they can ridicule. It’s not a sign of intelligence.You clowns are rough on the table.There’s an axiom from Trial Law 101:If the law is on your side, pound the law.If the facts are on your side, pound the facts.If neither are on your side, pound the table.

Why are you pounding on the table?

BTW here is another black patriot many won’t know……or that he even existed…..and he wasn’t a slave at the time……yes stupid libs….there were free black long before the DoI or Rev war………

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=20990

This was a truly amazing man.

“cobra” cosmodan says there’s no reason to sign your name after your post. ;)

What I woke up this morning to hear was not something I wanted my children ever to see or hear or read. Today I saw my country move backward towards ignorance. And I am reading that too many weak ass white people have to gaul to explain american history as them blacks did it too.
I am frustrated with the willingness of ignorant minds to hide from the shame that continued to support in america.
I am feed up with these poor representative of white people continueing the shame that too many rightouse white people give their lives to cut loose and remove from the american dialog.
The conversation is about an american elected representative name Representative Ellis who just happens to be of the faith of Muslim had to come before his peers and plea not to allow this nation to move away from progress. And the only voice the rejected the conversation was representative from Texas Jackson while others just wiped the tears from their eyes and not give her Rep. Jackson a second rejection. King has done more to recruit for Al Queda then any organization on this planet can do. King like many ignorant and insecure white men have a problem with people who not pleasing with their eyes and will destroy them along with themselves…this hate has caused enough problems for america in our journey to eI xpand progressive positive caring ideas. The state of New York if so serious should ask for the inquiry into organizations of hate like Nazi and KKK and other military hate america groups and clean up there…if this caucus is about terrorizism then wiping this but stain of hate groups clean would be the best example of showing the world we are serious about hate groups and terror organizations in america.
I love my white relatives that have married into my family and I love my mix race mate…I do not want my mixed race children growing up believing that there is something wrong with them because of the bad examples of white men presented in the media today. REP. KING HAS CREATED A PROBLEM THAT I AM HAVING A HARD TIME EXPLAINING TO MY CHILDREN AND GRANDS…Rep King has plastic man and I will have a hard time showing him any respect from this point on because of the shame to brought to this american’s shores…

Every Muslim should have to sign a loyalty oath to this country or get turned away.
I’m sure if Ellison was required to sign a loyalty oath before running for office, he wouldn’t have run.

Oy Vey!

Rep. Allen West To CAIR Executive: Don’t ‘Blow Sunshine Up My Butt’

http://www.newsmax.com//Manage/Videos/VideoGallery/Rep–Allen-West-To-CAIR-Executive–Don-t–Blow-Sun

Re

VoiceofReason said:
Why are you pounding on the table?

Religion of Peace objected when I said I WOULDN’T cheer to see Oxycon’s body in a bag. Or, any one else’s.
As an individual and as a country we have seen too many body bags. I don’t need the table. I have the facts.
If your mindset matches your moniker, check out the full thread before you take sides.

VoiceofReason said:
Bullshit. Several of the colonies had moved to abolish slavery before we even declared independence. the King vetoes that notion. In fact 6 of the 13 colonies moved to abolish slavery the minute we declared.

You didn’t refute ONE FACT about George Washington owning 316 SLAVES.
You didn’t refute ONE FACT about George Washington’s proclamation on Black soldiers.

Not ONE. You have nothing but revisionist “whitewashing”, and it’s damned shameful.

–Cobra

redleaf said:
Every Muslim should have to sign a loyalty oath to this country or get turned away.
I’m sure if Ellison was required to sign a loyalty oath before running for office, he wouldn’t have run.

You should look up a thing called HUAC, and the damage it did to this country. East Germany was the last place I can think of that endorsed your system. Neighbors spied on neighbors. A fun bunch called STASI was in charge of the info.

Joseph Glackin said:
You should look up a thing called HUAC,

Name one person who appeared before HUAC who was determine to be a Commie or pro-Commie who wasn’t.

Name one.

delta777 said:
Rep. Allen West To CAIR Executive: Don’t ‘Blow Sunshine Up My Butt’ http://www.newsmax.com//Manage/Videos/VideoGallery/Rep–Allen-West-To-CAIR-Executive–Don-t–Blow-Sun

I didn’t see this yet but I absolutely love Allen West.

Cobra said:
You didn’t refute ONE FACT about George Washington owning 316 SLAVES.

Too bad you weren’t one of ‘em.

Oh, boo effing hoo. This is the same Keith Ellison, let me remind you, that compared Bush to Hitler. But, he’s sooo sensitive now. Moving video my ass.

VoiceofReason said:
You know if you hadn’t believed every word from your lib racist indoctrinators you would know more about the role of blacks in the founding of this great nation.

Pity.

Sorry Kreskin,
You have no idea what I believe, and your post has nothing to do with mine.

Religion of Peace said:
“cobra” cosmodan says there’s no reason to sign your name after your post. ;)

HEY!!!! Write your own material. ;-}

What the hell does the guy who was a first responder dying, have to do with Muslim terrorist living within our communities? If you are a Muslim in this country you had better damned well know that you are going to live under our laws, and should expect No special treatment. I say that knowing full well this hypocrite president is already conceding special treatment to Muslims. Another damned good reason to kick his is worthless Muslim butt kissing ass out in 2012!

This Ellison is a jerk. Is he crying when the Muslims keep killing people?

Why doesn’t he put his energies at STOPPING Muslim terror?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

CAconservative said:
What the hell does the guy who was a first responder dying, have to do with Muslim terrorist living within our communities? If you are a Muslim in this country you had better damned well know that you are going to live under our laws, and should expect No special treatment. I say that knowing full well this hypocrite president is already conceding special treatment to Muslims. Another damned good reason to kick his is worthless Muslim butt kissing ass out in 2012!

Exactly. No Sharia and Muslims need to assimilate. THAT’S THE DEAL.

People are pissed about this.

Cobra said:
Washington was a SLAVE OWNER, Voice. He didn’t release his slaves until after his own death. Second, read up on the history of Washington having Black troops serve in the Continental Army. He only allowed it because he was RUNNING OUT OF TROOPS:

“By the end of the war about ten percent of General Washington’s army would be “people of color.” (About three to five thousand people of color would fight for America.) This would be remarkable in two aspects. First, many enslaved blacks had little faith they would be given their freedom at the end of the war. After all, the only thing these substitute soldiers and runaway slaves had to trust in would be the word and good intentions of their master or of other whites. Secondly, General Washington made a proclamation at Cambridge in 1775, that neither free blacks nor slaves would be allowed to join the Continental Army, despite their early involvement in the war as Minutemen.”

http://www.ushistory.org/washingtoncrossing/history/contribution.htm

–Cobra

Many Muslims still condone slavery and look how they treat women.

Your moral equivalence with Washington is disgusting.

notsofast said:
Name one person who appeared before HUAC who was determine to be a Commie or pro-Commie who wasn’t.

Name one.

Notsofast=nososmart. There is a thing called the Bill of Rights. If it didn’t exist, I’d report you as a fascist sympathizer and totalitarian activist. I won’t, because you have the right to be an @sshole. That is the beauty of our nation.

Alz said:
Many Muslims still condone slavery and look how they treat women.

Your moral equivalence with Washington is disgusting.

Slave-owner George Washington is one of your heroes, isn’t he?

notsofast said:
Too bad you weren’t one of ‘em.

See? We now know what you want to bring back once you’re done with Muslims.

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Slave-owner George Washington is one of your heroes, isn’t he?

See? We now know what you want to bring back once you’re done with Muslims.

–Cobra

Of course! He helped put together a system so we could get rid of slavery. It took many years and many deaths, but we got it done. So, yes, Washington is a hero – as he should be.

Now look at your heroes: Muslims. Gee, see http://www.thereligionofpeace.com for some details.

You couldn’t be more wrong. You are as wrong as wrong can be.,

Keith Ellison, D-Minn., the first Muslim elected to the United States Congress, has announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran.

Oh, yes and he swore to uphold the US Constitution. Imagine that. He loves America nearly as much as he loves the koran.

Joseph Glackin said:
Notsofast=nososmart. There is a thing called the Bill of Rights. If it didn’t exist, I’d report you as a fascist sympathizer and totalitarian activist. I won’t, because you have the right to be an @sshole. That is the beauty of our nation.

Joseph Glackin = dumb as rags, and half as useful.

Ellison wept crocodile tears for one muslim killed by muslims? Not a tear for 2,999 non-muslims? Hey they were killed by muslims. At least the muslims understand collateral damage, for that they get kudos.

ALZ:

Exactly. No need because, their not about to, are they? And if their not going to assimilate into our culture, why the hell are they here? For that matter, why the hell is any group that doesn’t want to assimilate? Wouldn’t you agree? Yes Sir, bring in as many divergent cultures as possible, put them all in geographical contained area’s like we have in the U.S. where they don’t have to assimilate and let’s see how long it’s going to take before their at each others throats……Oh wait….their already killing each other, aren’t they…Nope, no need for assimilation here, is there?

CAconservative said:
ALZ:

Exactly. No need because, their not about to, are they? And if their not going to assimilate into our culture, why the hell are they here? For that matter, why the hell is any group that doesn’t want to assimilate? Wouldn’t you agree? Yes Sir, bring in as many divergent cultures as possible, put them all in geographical contained area’s like we have in the U.S. where they don’t have to assimilate and let’s see how long it’s going to take before their at each others throats……Oh wait….their already killing each other, aren’t they…Nope, no need for assimilation here, is there?

صلي الله عليه وسلم,Press 1 for Arabic, 2 for Espaniol, 3 to detonate the infidel, 4 to continue in English, 5 صلي الله عليه وسلم

Religion of Peace said:
“cobra” cosmodan says there’s no reason to sign your name after your post. ;)

He’s also too dumb to differentiate a signature from an imperative sentence, so it is no surprise. Yes?

I once read an article which stated that black muslims are often frowned upon by brown muslims, in Southeast Asia. No joke. According to the article, black muslims were often discriminated against by brown muslims, in the same magnitude that blacks have experienced discrimination, by whites in the USA. Bigotry towards blacks seems to be an international thing, not just an American thing.

ndanielson said:
Joseph Glackin = dumb as rags, and half as useful.

ndanielson=ready with hate, doesn’t care about the topic,lazy as a stump. Useful to be pulled out and turned against logic and reason. Totally without morals or scruples. Hasn’t a clue where this thread started, but thinks the world is waiting for his “bon mots” on the subject. Adds nothing but invective and spite.
HAS the right to be an @sshole. Has earned it. Is protected by the Bill of Rights. To bad he can’t allow the same freedoms to the people he deems @ssholes. God bless him and his right to be a damned fool.

And here are some not-very-graphic pictures of how Muslims mutilate women with clitorectomies:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/imam-female-genital-mutilation-recommended-by-islam.html

Yea, that Geogre Washingtin is bad!

ndanielson said:
صلي الله عليه وسلم,Press 1 for Arabic, 2 for Espaniol, 3 to detonate the infidel, 4 to continue in English, 5 صلي الله عليه وسلم

FUNNY!! Far left liberals and Michael Moore please press 3!

The key words in the testimoy is “some thought…”

I feel bad for this young man who died, and his family and it should not have happened….

Lots of things should not happen…like….democrats and leftists…
trying to destroy individuals and the families.
trying to blame the Tucson shooting on conservatives…within a couple of hours of the shooting…come on….
calling some people racists, when they obviously they are not.
Granted no one dies, but it gets a little old.

Cobra said:
You didn’t refute ONE FACT about George Washington owning 316 SLAVES.You didn’t refute ONE FACT about George Washington’s proclamation on Black soldiers. Not ONE. You have nothing but revisionist “whitewashing”, and it’s damned shameful. –Cobra

I think George Washington should free all of his slaves immediately and recind that proclamation on black soldiers without delay. Then we will be able to appreciate what a very large part he had in creating the greatest country the world has ever seen.

Cosmosdan, a jussive phrase for you: Veni. Vidi. Vici. As Scott Walker could justifiably say to the fleebaggers and union thugs in WI.

Cobra said:
Slave-owner George Washington is one of your heroes, isn’t he? See? We now know what you want to bring back once you’re done with Muslims. –Cobra

George Washington is one of my heroes, isn’t he one of yours. Or is it that you require your heroes to be perfect in every way. Please name such a person.

Reminds me of the scene from Godfather II where Senator Pat Geary lauds the efforts and nobility of Italian-Americans; except with tears. But what about the particular Italian-American under scrutiny, Senator Geary, for which the hearings are being held?

RichS said:
I think George Washington should free all of his slaves immediately and recind that proclamation on black soldiers without delay. Then we will be able to appreciate what a very large part he had in creating the greatest country the world has ever seen.

The Declaration of Independence set the groundwork for the US Constitution: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

SIGNED BY ALL WHITE MEN, no less:

The signers of the Declaration:
New Hampshire – Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton
Massachusetts – John Hancock, Samual Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island – Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut – Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New York – William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey – Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania – Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware – Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean
Maryland – Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia – George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton
North Carolina – William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina – Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton
Georgia – Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

And, thus, a nation was born, so THAT ALL MEN WOULD BE EQUAL.

newzmaker said:
I once read an article which stated that black muslims are often frowned upon by brown muslims, in Southeast Asia. No joke. According to the article, black muslims were often discriminated against by brown muslims, in the same magnitude that blacks have experienced discrimination, by whites in the USA. Bigotry towards blacks seems to be an international thing, not just an American thing.

That’s because bigotry and discrimination are acceptable tenets of muslim culture, and they have no laws that address it.

Yep. No complaints from the left about Muslim treatment of women. Not to mention Muslim views on gays.

writer said:
Yep. No complaints from the left about Muslim treatment of women. Not to mention Muslim views on gays.

Why, to do so would insult the muslim culture??? They’d rather insult America anyday.

Ellison was a Farrakhan disciple for years; moreover, he was an outspoken public defender of Farrakhan’s most odious spawn Khalid Mohammed. And the media never mentions it. I wonder if they would find it relevant to mention if Ellison was a right-wing former member of the KKK.

Alz said:
Of course! He helped put together a system so we could get rid of slavery. It took many years and many deaths, but we got it done. So, yes, Washington is a hero – as he should be.

Now look at your heroes: Muslims. Gee, see http://www.thereligionofpeace.com for some details.

You couldn’t be more wrong. You are as wrong as wrong can be.,

Really? So Ol’ George had “NO CHOICE” but to own slaves? There was ‘NO OTHER” way of life available to Washington? You don’t even believe that.

And who is this ‘we” you’re talking about, when you say “we got it done?” (ending slavery) Why did it take “many years and many deaths”? Who was standing in the way? Slave owners LIKE WASHINGTON.

Alz said:
Now look at your heroes: Muslims.

Some of my heroes are my ancestors who fought and died for a nation that kept them enslaved for almost another CENTURY. But to idolators of slave-owners like you, the irony must escape you.

–Cobra

ndanielson said:
Why are you leftists not as critical of Islam as you are of Christians?

** Why are you asking the wrong question? The point of Ellison’s message isn’t that Islamic terrorists should get a free pass, it’s that all Islamic people aren’t terrorists. And they don’t deserve to be treated as such.

Does that mean, in the interest of fairness, we should turn a blind eye toward terrorism? No, of course not. Don’t be idiotic. But given that the 2011 budget for the Dept. of Homeland Security alone is $56.3 billion and that their stated mission #1 is to find and eliminate exactly this kind of fundamentalist threat, from bomb detection right on down to recruitment inside our borders — and given that we’re not even talking here about the billions spent by the FBI, CIA, and Pentagon on exactly these same issues both here and abroad — what the hell is a Congressional committee even doing, delving into this area at all?

We can’t possibly believe they’ll be effective. Look how unsuccessful they were in “investigating” the original 9/11 issues, the Clinton Impeachment B.S., Iran-Contra, the Kennedy Assassination (the Warren Report was practically considered comedy)… and heck, while we’re at it, why not draw the most accurate analogy, the McCarthy anti-Communist witch hunt.

Let’s see your list of Christian terrorists since 1980.

Please, stop being ridiculous. Again, the point is not that they’re Islamic groups. It’s that they’re terrorists groups. Do many of them also adhere to Islam? Yes, they do. At least to their own bastardized version of it. But if your agenda is to stop terrorism, you won’t do it by first trying to stop Islam.

Whether or not there are Christian terrorists — like those that bomb abortion clinics or shoot doctors (please don’t tell me you consider that ‘freedom fighting’), ran the lynch mobs of the 19th and 20th century South, ran the witch hunts in Salem, or ran the Crusades — is irrelevant. Does the fact that those existed and did what they did in the name of Christ, damn all Christians before or after or damn the real Christian message itself?

No, of course not.

Yet even now you’ll find Christian war-mongers, Christians who believe it’s wrong to spend money to help the sick or hungry, Christians who fight for gun rights, and more. Is it their Christianity that makes them pursue those agendas? Of course not. It’ something else, something that’s the antitheses of what Christ preached.

Likewise, lots of Catholic priests are now clearly guilty of molesting children. Should that damn all Catholics? Or the inverse, should it protect those priests because they’re Christian and NOT Muslim? No, again. Of course not. That too would be idiotic. Catholic or not, condemn the abuse. And many have, including members of the Catholic community. Yes, that problem is still widespread. How would we feel, though, if Congress called a special investigation to focus on all things Catholic? It would never fly.

– Or how about the short list of Christian Terrorists groups compared to this one:

Again, completely irrelevant to Ellison’s message.

Let’s try this… I’m guessing you lean politically toward the right, yes?

So how far do you think it is for me to say that if you lean right, you’re a hate-mongering, violent, bigot? Be clear… I’m not saying you are… but, based on your logic, how else am I supposed to interpret the fact that these organizations are also right leaning?

http://rw-infopedia.pbworks.com/w/page/4604207/Hate-Groups

Hate Groups – This category is for Hate Groups that are considered to be Right Wing. Right Wing groups will be placed on this category because of their presence on a Hate Group list that is maintained by the Southern Poverty Law Center. This group usually tracks groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazis, but has come to recognize the danger that several Right Wing groups that are sometimes considered to be ‘mainstream’ also present.

A map of the active hate groups is at:
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp

A
Abiding Truth Ministries
Alliance for Catholic Tradition
America’s Promise Ministries
American Front
American Nazi Party
American Thule Society
American Reformation Ministries
American Vision
Americans for Truth
Aryan Covenant Church
Aryan Nations
Aryan Raiders

B
By Yahweh’s Design

C
Catholic Apologetics International
Catholic Counterpoint
Catholic Family Ministries
Catholic Family News
Chalcedon Foundation
Christian Defense League
Christian Guard
Christian Identity
Christian Outreach
Christian Research
Christian Separatist Church Society
Church of the Sons of Yhvh
Church of the Southern Cross
Church of True Israel
Council of Conservative Citizens
Covenant Church of Yahweh
Covenant People’s Ministry
Creativity Movement
Culture Wars

E
Ecclesiastical Council for the Restoration of Covenant Israel
Elohim City

F
Family Research Institute
Fatima Center
Fatima Crusader
Fellowship of God’s Covenant People
Fidelity

H
House of Yahweh

I
IHS Press
Institute for Historical Review

K
Kinsman Redeemer Ministries
Ku Klux Klan

L
League of the South
Legion of St Louis

M
Massive Resistance

N
National Alliance
National Prayer Network
National Vanguard
Nationalist Coalition
Nazi Lowriders
Neo-Nazism
New Beginnings
New Order
Nordwave
NS Publications

O
Omni Christian Book Club

P
Pioneer Fund
Proud White Brotherhood
Prussians Motorcycle Club

R
Reformed Church of Israel
The Remnant
Remnant Outreach Ministries

S
Scriptures for America
Seattle Creators Assembly
Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary
Social Contract Press
The Society for Truth and Light
SS Enterprises
SS Regalia
St Joseph Forum
St Michael’s Parish
Stone Kingdom Ministries
Stormfront

T
Thule Publications
Tradition in Action
Traditional Values Coalition

V
VDARE
Volksfront

W
Watchman Outreach Ministries
Watchmen on the Walls
Weisman Publications
Westboro Baptist Church
White Aryan Resistance
White Revolution

Y
Yahweh’s Truth
Young Americans for Freedom – MSU Chapter

Individuals connected to these Hate Groups.

C
Paul Cameron

S
Lou Sheldon

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ndanielson said:
The Declaration of Independence set the groundwork for the US Constitution: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

SIGNED BY ALL WHITE MEN, no less:

LOL…that’s because the Founding Fathers didn’t let women and people of other races participate. You celebrate this fact, apparently.

–Cobra

Sorry, I didn’t quote the message back correctly.

It should have appeared like this:

** Why are you asking the wrong question?

The point of Ellison’s message isn’t that Islamic terrorists should get a free pass, it’s that all Islamic people aren’t terrorists. And they don’t deserve to be treated as such.

Does that mean, in the interest of fairness, we should turn a blind eye toward terrorism? No, of course not. Don’t be idiotic. But given that the 2011 budget for the Dept. of Homeland Security alone is $56.3 billion and that their stated mission #1 is to find and eliminate exactly this kind of fundamentalist threat, from bomb detection right on down to recruitment inside our borders — and given that we’re not even talking here about the billions spent by the FBI, CIA, and Pentagon on exactly these same issues both here and abroad — what the hell is a Congressional committee even doing, delving into this area at all?

We can’t possibly believe they’ll be effective. Look how unsuccessful they were in “investigating” the original 9/11 issues, the Clinton Impeachment B.S., Iran-Contra, the Kennedy Assassination (the Warren Report was practically considered comedy)… and heck, while we’re at it, why not draw the most accurate analogy, the McCarthy anti-Communist witch hunt.

quote: “Let’s see your list of Christian terrorists since 1980.”

Please, stop being ridiculous.

Again, the point is not that they’re Islamic groups. It’s that they’re terrorists groups. Do many of them also adhere to Islam? Yes, they do. At least to their own bastardized version of it. But if your agenda is to stop terrorism, you won’t do it by first trying to stop Islam.

Whether or not there are Christian terrorists — like those that bomb abortion clinics or shoot doctors (please don’t tell me you consider that ‘freedom fighting’), ran the lynch mobs of the 19th and 20th century South, ran the witch hunts in Salem, or ran the Crusades — is irrelevant. Does the fact that those existed and did what they did in the name of Christ, damn all Christians before or after or damn the real Christian message itself?

No, of course not.

Yet even now you’ll find Christian war-mongers, Christians who believe it’s wrong to spend money to help the sick or hungry, Christians who fight for gun rights, and more. Is it their Christianity that makes them pursue those agendas? Of course not. It’ something else, something that’s the antitheses of what Christ preached.

Likewise, lots of Catholic priests are now clearly guilty of molesting children. Should that damn all Catholics? Or the inverse, should it protect those priests because they’re Christian and NOT Muslim? No, again. Of course not. That too would be idiotic. Catholic or not, condemn the abuse. And many have, including members of the Catholic community. Yes, that problem is still widespread. How would we feel, though, if Congress called a special investigation to focus on all things Catholic?

Cobra, you are aware that Shaka Zulu and other leaders sold conquered tribes to Europeans all the time, aren’t you? Or is that a part of history you don’t want to know about?

Cobra said:
LOL…that’s because the Founding Fathers didn’t let women and people of other races participate. You celebrate this fact, apparently. –Cobra

Still far ahead of all of the non-white world of that time. I celebrate that. Hurray for white people!

writer said:
Cobra, you are aware that Shaka Zulu and other leaders sold conquered tribes to Europeans all the time, aren’t you? Or is that a part of history you don’t want to know about?

And that muslim pirates captured over 1 million European slaves and sold them in markets to be raped and brutalized all over africa and the middle east.

writer said:
Cobra, you are aware that Shaka Zulu and other leaders sold conquered tribes to Europeans all the time, aren’t you? Or is that a part of history you don’t want to know about?

And the once you’ve bought them

WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THEM?

Sean68 said:
Still far ahead of all of the non-white world of that time. I celebrate that. Hurray for white people!

How is owning slaves “far ahead of the non-white world of that time?” How is racially and sexually discriminating in government cause for your celebration?

–Cobra

Maybe when Shaka sold them, he assumed they were all going to be adopted.

Cobra said:
How is owning slaves “far ahead of the non-white world of that time?” How is racially and sexually discriminating in government cause for your celebration?

–Cobra

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The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States were built upon ideas that had never been used for societies to order and govern themselves. Just the concept that “men are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights” was anathema to millenia of human history.

Up until that time societies were ordered around the idea that kings/rulers had their power by divine right. All power belonged to the state thatthey then parceled out or withheld at their WHIM.

Just b/c that idea is now 250 years old does not negate the sheer power, beauty and righteousness of it. By the same token they were still men of their times and were blind to certain things that seem so obvious to us.

You can denigrate and ridicule all you want but I am in awe that so small a country that had just carved a territory out of wilderness produced so many brilliant men who accomplished so much.

I’ll never bring it up or engage you on this subject again. This says it all for me.

Cobra said:
How is owning slaves “far ahead of the non-white world of that time?” How is racially and sexually discriminating in government cause for your celebration? –Cobra

Cobra you need to get over your bad self and quit living in the pass and move on to a bright beautiful future. After all, Obama is in the White House so things are looking up for you and not so good for white people. That should make you happy, if you can be happy.

Colby:

13 pages of such brilliant comments missed an error in your article. Ellison is from MN, not NY. King is from NY.

Grammie said:
The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States were built upon ideas that had never been used for societies to order and govern themselves. Just the concept that “men are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights” was anathema to millenia of human history.

Up until that time societies were ordered around the idea that kings/rulers had their power by divine right. All power belonged to the state thatthey then parceled out or withheld at their WHIM.

Nonsense. Equality existed in tribal communities around the planet long before 1776. Your ethnocentrism doesn’t allow that history to seep in.

–Cobra

jackster12 said:
Hate Groups – This category is for Hate Groups that are considered to be Right Wing.

“Right wing” are hate groups to whom???

Cobra said:
Nonsense. Equality existed in tribal communities around the planet long before 1776. Your ethnocentrism doesn’t allow that history to seep in.

–Cobra

As did inequality. And inequality bases on sex, religion, and race exists in muslim cultures today as it did in 600 AD. Imagine that. Dummy.

ndanielson said:
Cobra said:
Nonsense. Equality existed in tribal communities around the planet long before 1776. Your ethnocentrism doesn’t allow that history to seep in.

–Cobra

ndanielson said:
As did inequality. And inequality bases on sex, religion, and race exists in muslim cultures today as it did in 600 AD. Imagine that. Dummy.

In fact, muslim bigotry and hatred hasn’t allowed equality to seep into the culture of any tribal communities in the middle east since their very existence on the planet.

Interesting little tidbit about Ellisons tearful story, most of it’s bullshi*.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/261903/rep-keith-ellison-s-bigotry-matthew-shaffer?page=1

Cobra said:
How is owning slaves “far ahead of the non-white world of that time?” How is racially and sexually discriminating in government cause for your celebration? –Cobra

You are seriously arguing over George Washington? Talk about grasping for straws, jesus. 8 to 10 muslim attacks in a short period of time and you wanna start raiding Swedish Massage Studios?

Jesus you people are stupid.

ndanielson said:
Veni. Vidi. Vici. As Scott Walker could justifiably say to the fleebaggers and union thugs in WI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLK7O6sHFU4

timzank said:
Interesting little tidbit about Ellisons tearful story, most of it’s bullshi*.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/261903/rep-keith-ellison-s-bigotry-matthew-shaffer?page=1

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Why am I not surprised?

I’m sure that Colby will be right on it getting this new truthful info out there in the spotlight.

Grammie said:
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Why am I not surprised?

I’m sure that Colby will be right on it getting this new truthful info out there in the spotlight.

It doesn’t appear to me that Ellison was far off at all. It does seem that someone is making a real effort to parse his words in an effort to discredit him and that story. Too bad they feel that’s necessary.

ndanielson said:
In fact, muslim bigotry and hatred hasn’t allowed equality to seep into the culture of any tribal communities in the middle east since their very existence on the planet.

And the Middle East is the ENTIRE WORLD? Is that the extent of your history knowledge?

timzank said:
You are seriously arguing over George Washington? Talk about grasping for straws, jesus. 8 to 10 muslim attacks in a short period of time and you wanna start raiding Swedish Massage Studios?

Jesus you people are stupid.

“SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) – A man accused of trying to bomb a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade was an avid poster on a white supremacist Internet forum, where he referenced bomb-making and alluded to attacking anti-racist demonstrators, a national organization that tracks hate groups said Thursday.

The Southern Poverty Law Center said Kevin Harpham, 36, made more than 1,000 postings on the Vanguard News Network site, many of them under the pseudonym “Joe Snuffy.”

“I can’t wait till the day I snap,” said a 2006 message attributed to Harpham.

He was arrested on Wednesday after being charged with one count of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and one count of possessing an unregistered explosive in a case that raised worries racist activities may be on the rise again in the region, once a hotbed for hate groups.”

http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=14223484

I’m surprised I didn’t read any of THIS guy’s posts up in here. You folks would’ve gave him DOZENS of “thumbs up”.

ndanielson said:
In fact, muslim bigotry and hatred hasn’t allowed equality to seep into the culture of any tribal communities in the middle east since their very existence on the planet.

“”Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man.” (Numbers 31:17-18)

“The Lord commands: “… slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women” (Ezechial 9:4-6)

“When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males …. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves.” (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)

“You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you.” (Deuteronomy 28:53)

“… Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones…. every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy.” (Judges 21:10-12)

“This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass …. And Saul … utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.” (1 Samuel 15:3,7-8)

That’s a whole lot of killing, raping, and slaughtering going on, huh? But if you folks defend George Washington for having slaves, I’m sure defending the Biblical Israelites is no challenge whatsoever.

–Cobra

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Well 24 hrs later we can only confirm that Ellison is a disgrace and a joke. Someone so full of shit should not be allowed in politics, this clown isn’t worthy of a hotdog stand and if they’re surveilling any muslims they should have him at the top of the list. If he can act this well over this bs who know’s what else he’s full of shit about.

And as for the typical enemy of the state liberal JO’s on this site like Cobra and Glackin, Way to go! way to represent the pathetic American left and keep us reminded what losers you schmucks really are.

Ok, on to bigger and dumber liberal issues.

Of course what the politician, and Mediaite for that matter, fail to mention is that Salman Hamdani was specifically mentioned in the Patriot Act regarding Muslim Americans that were heros on that tuesday morning in September. The act specifically states:
“Many Arab Americans and Muslim Americans have acted heroically during the attacks on the United States, including Mohammed Salman Hamdani, a 23-year-old New Yorker of Pakistani descent, who is believed to have gone to the World Trade Center to offer rescue assistance and is now missing.”

So Ellison was just telling lies, and passing rumors. And Colby Hall also fails to do his research or make a correction.

Steve_27 said:
Well 24 hrs later we can only confirm that Ellison is a disgrace and a joke. Someone so full of shit should not be allowed in politics, this clown isn’t worthy of a hotdog stand and if they’re surveilling any muslims they should have him at the top of the list. If he can act this well over this bs who know’s what else he’s full of shit about.

And as for the typical enemy of the state liberal JO’s on this site like Cobra and Glackin, Way to go! way to represent the pathetic American left and keep us reminded what losers you schmucks really are.

Ok, on to bigger and dumber liberal issues.

Who is “we?” LOL?

“Enemies of the state?” What….you’re quoting STALIN now? Steve, you better face up to the facts that the future demographics of America are NOT in the favor of angry, White conservatives. Not even close.

More Liberty3 said:
Of course what the politician, and Mediaite for that matter, fail to mention is that Salman Hamdani was specifically mentioned in the Patriot Act regarding Muslim Americans that were heros on that tuesday morning in September. The act specifically states:
“Many Arab Americans and Muslim Americans have acted heroically during the attacks on the United States, including Mohammed Salman Hamdani, a 23-year-old New Yorker of Pakistani descent, who is believed to have gone to the World Trade Center to offer rescue assistance and is now missing.”

So Ellison was just telling lies, and passing rumors. And Colby Hall also fails to do his research or make a correction.

Oh…Mr. Libertarian “More Liberty” is referencing the Patriot Act? Really? Are you a supporter of the Patriot Act?

–Cobra

Cobra said:
“Oh…Mr. Libertarian “More Liberty” is referencing the Patriot Act? Really? Are you a supporter of the Patriot Act?”

No I’m not a supporter of the Patriot Act Bu$h signed or the Patriot Act Obama signed. I’ve made this clear on numerous occasions. I’m simply stating an important fact that Colby Hall and Ellison left out.

gottosay said:
What I woke up this morning to hear was not something I wanted my children ever to see or hear or read. Today I saw my country move backward towards ignorance. And I am reading that too many weak ass white people have to gaul to explain american history as them blacks did it too.I am frustrated with the willingness of ignorant minds to hide from the shame that continued to support in america.I am feed up with these poor representative of white people continueing the shame that too many rightouse white people give their lives to cut loose and remove from the american dialog.The conversation is about an american elected representative name Representative Ellis who just happens to be of the faith of Muslim had to come before his peers and plea not to allow this nation to move away from progress. And the only voice the rejected the conversation was representative from Texas Jackson while others just wiped the tears from their eyes and not give her Rep. Jackson a second rejection. King has done more to recruit for Al Queda then any organization on this planet can do. King like many ignorant and insecure white men have a problem with people who not pleasing with their eyes and will destroy them along with themselves…this hate has caused enough problems for america in our journey to eI xpand progressive positive caring ideas. The state of New York if so serious should ask for the inquiry into organizations of hate like Nazi and KKK and other military hate america groups and clean up there…if this caucus is about terrorizism then wiping this but stain of hate groups clean would be the best example of showing the world we are serious about hate groups and terror organizations in america.I love my white relatives that have married into my family and I love my mix race mate…I do not want my mixed race children growing up believing that there is something wrong with them because of the bad examples of white men presented in the media today. REP. KING HAS CREATED A PROBLEM THAT I AM HAVING A HARD TIME EXPLAINING TO MY CHILDREN AND GRANDS…Rep King has plastic man and I will have a hard time showing him any respect from this point on because of the shame to brought to this american’s shores…

You might do you children a better service of letting your color blindness go. You can’t possibly tell what race a person is by the things they write on the internet yet you choose to make the assumptions or outright accusations you make.

Perhaps the bigot is you.

Joseph Glackin said:
Re Religion of Peace objected when I said I WOULDN’T cheer to see Oxycon’s body in a bag. Or, any one else’s.As an individual and as a country we have seen too many body bags. I don’t need the table. I have the facts.If your mindset matches your moniker, check out the full thread before you take sides.

I’ve seen the full thread and I have seen your act in all it’s glory.

Stop pounding the table.

Cobra said:
You didn’t refute ONE FACT about George Washington owning 316 SLAVES.You didn’t refute ONE FACT about George Washington’s proclamation on Black soldiers. Not ONE. You have nothing but revisionist “whitewashing”, and it’s damned shameful. –Cobra

When was Bunker Hill? Was it before or after when you claim Washington said heroes like Salem couldn’t serve? How about Prince Whipple who served on Washingtons general staff? How about the hero of Groton Heights? He has a statuie erected there for his bravery.

Did you even peek at the links? And how did the folks at Wallbuilder whitewash when they take things written at the time as reference?

Not some 21st century egghead from Hahvahd musing about what he thinks they said or meant….but straight from the horses mouth.

Joseph Glackin said:
You should look up a thing called HUAC, and the damage it did to this country. East Germany was the last place I can think of that endorsed your system. Neighbors spied on neighbors. A fun bunch called STASI was in charge of the info.

You should read something besides liberal agit-prop and you would have known McCarthy was right. The Russians have all but admitted it.

Epic fail once again.

writer said:
Cobra, you are aware that Shaka Zulu and other leaders sold conquered tribes to Europeans all the time, aren’t you? Or is that a part of history you don’t want to know about?

Of course he ignores it…..hell he probably still refers to himself as an “AFRICAN-American”.

Talk about dumb as a bag of hammers and paying allegience to those who enslaved your ancestors.

VoiceofReason said:
When was Bunker Hill? Was it before or after when you claim Washington said heroes like Salem couldn’t serve? How about Prince Whipple who served on Washingtons general staff? How about the hero of Groton Heights? He has a statuie erected there for his bravery.

Did you even peek at the links? And how did the folks at Wallbuilder whitewash when they take things written at the time as reference?

Not some 21st century egghead from Hahvahd musing about what he thinks they said or meant….but straight from the horses mouth.

You’re arguing against documented history.

“African Americans – free, slave, and ex-slave – fought side by side with white colonists seeking independence from British domination. GEORGE WASHINGTON, as Commander of the Continental Army, forbade the enlistment of Blacks – free, slave, or ex-slave – during the early stages of the war. He later learned that the Royal Governor of Virginia, John Murray, Earl of Dunmore, was enlisting slaves and indentured servants into the British army with the promise of “freedom to all slaves who would join the King’s army.” Dunmore’s tactic of lifting the ban on Blacks enlisting in the British army led George Washington to change his mind, and, therefore, Blacks later joined the CONTINENTAL ARMED FORCES.”

http://www2.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/aaffsfl.htm#AMREV

That brave Blacks like Crispus Attucks died for a nation that didn’t treat them as equals is a testimony to THEIR courage, not the cowardly racism and bigotry of slave-owners like George Washington.

–Cobra

VoiceofReason said:
Of course he ignores it…..hell he probably still refers to himself as an “AFRICAN-American”.

Talk about dumb as a bag of hammers and paying allegience to those who enslaved your ancestors.

Given the OTHER names White American conservatives have referred to people of my ancestry over the years, damn straight I’ll use “African-American.”

–Cobra

jo hoochie said:
After all, Obama is in the White House so things are looking up for you and not so good for white people.

OMG
That was Hilarious.
Th poor OPPRESSED WHITES!
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Newt Limbaugh said:
OMG
That was Hilarious.
Th poor OPPRESSED WHITES!
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Of course. That’s the entire Southern Strategy/GOP 2012 Campaign in Cliff Notes form.

–Cobra