This does make the story a little more interesting. An (apparently) unabashed liberal, fighting against a liberal President and administration, who won’t let him do his job. An Obama supporter who thinks he’s doing a poor job, is over his head, and is failing as Commander-In-Chief.

Now THAT could be a sign of bad things to come for the Obama administration…

The comments for this thread should be fun. On the one hand, the libs hate McChrystal, but on the other hand, he’s bashing Fox. Now they will find themselves in the uncomfortable position of having to agree with the general. Let the fun begin!!

So for the conservs Michelle is McChrystal a credible general with valid complaints or just a liberal loon who deserved to get fired? Let the fun begin!

Paul,
I think I’ve talked about this many times, but I can do it again. I don’t think he should done the article, period. I’ve never said a single word about his politics because I didn’t think it mattered if he was doing his job.

Sorry MichelleF, most liberals aren’t as highly partisan as you are. We can disagree with each other from time to time and not always toe the party line. I’m sure your tea bag talking points that come in the mail in the morning — yes, I imagine the tea baggers still use snail mail — are to be followed at any cost. But we liberals can disagree with Billy McChrystal in the way he went about opening up his big mouth but also agree with him that Fox News is the new Nickelodeon. Simple television for simple minds!

I don’t hate McChrystal, by the way. But I don’t agree with the way he went about speaking out against the administration. Simple.

And yes, ImNotSmart, some liberals aren’t happy with Obama has done his job. We aren’t as one-sided as you and your tea bagging friends are.

Yes tjl, clearly you aren’t highly partisan.

Let’s try and have civil conservations please. There’s no cause for insulting people.

McChrystal seems to be a credible General and I would take his word and experience about military matters over a community organizer, any day.

That said, he does have the Tillman issue attached to him. And he has made a few verbal gaffes, but he was speaking about the inexperience and ridiculousness of the Obama administration so I am ok with that. haha

The fact that he was fooled by the hope and change love train is a matter of concern…. But it seems he quickly realized that Obama was not up for the job, and the O administration doesn’t know what they are doing.

The guy, no matter his politics, has served his country well. He has served for 35 years, is a 4 star general and an over all bad ass. It’s unfortunate his CIC and WH administration was so detached, inexperienced and ill prepared that McChrystal felt and expressed what he did, which ultimately led to his resignation/firing.

“but he was speaking about the inexperience and ridiculousness of the Obama administration so I am ok with that”

So McChrystal’s credibility is determined by how he feels about Obama? That’s not partisan at all.

Teabaggers don’t use snail mail; it’s run by the “guv-mit”!

BOTTOM LINE-

WHAT KIND OF MORON GENERAL TALKS TO ROLLING STONE??? REGARDLESS OF PARTISAN
POLITICS YOU DON’T DO THAT. CLEARLY FROM THE COMMENTS NOBODY HAS BEEN IN THE MILITARY OR YOU WOULD KNOW THAT. HENCE WHY HE HAD TO GO. PERIOD. A FINE MAN, BUT HE MADE A BIG MISTAKE.

MOST AMUSING TO ME IS THAT HE WENT TO ROLLING STONE AND NOT FOX AND NOW THAT OI HEAR HE BANNED FOX FROM HIS CP WELL BRAVO AND BULLY GENERAL!!! SEEMS YOU’RE EVEN SMARTER THAN YOU LOOK.

IF YOU PEOPLE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE MILITARY YOU WOULD REALIZE THE AFGHAN PLAN IS IN MOTION AND THE BEAUTY OF OUR SYSTEM ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY FROM GENERAL TO PRIVATE TO CARRY OUT THE MISSION. WE DONT NEED MCCHYSTAL AT THIS POINT.

THE WAR GOES ON-IF YOU WANT TO WIN IT-STOP POLITICIZING EVERY DECISION. REMEMBER VIETNAM? EH? CONSERVATIVES HAVE LEARNED NOTHHING SINCE THEN IT WOULD SEEM.

Ha ha ha, are the right wingers still defending his actions. Now they’d be jumping ship, now that they found out he’s not one of them. The hypocrisy Bernie Goldberg was talking about would be more apparent now. lol

Well, if it’s true that he banned Fox, he is as dumb as giving Rolling Stone access makes him look. This guy is perhaps at his best when he is on the ground shooting his gun, instead of making decisions.

Glad he had FAUX turned off and he still blew it, and it was not just Tillman he made a number of mistakes before in the area of his command responsibilities which got over shadowed by the Tillman incident and the aftermath from that, this time around he was only being lightly criticized for the excessive time it was taking to mount operations.

BTW: Around Atlanta there has been a campaign to turn off FAUX at fast food places and other gathering places because it made even conservatives feel as if it was being pushed on people when they did not want it and at the Mc Ds it was to stop the exposure to children. Also a few lawsuits were filed to turn it off in PUBLIC BLDGS where it was considered to be politically partisan and wrong for it to be pushed in TAX PAYER PROVIDED offices and citizen services areas, they even had to issue a special warning to poll workers not to play political talk shows during VOTING.

This serves to put to rest another false rumor: that McChrystal deliberately precipitated his firing because he wants to run for President.”

It proves no such thing!

paulmdoro says:
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So McChrystal’s credibility is determined by how he feels about Obama? That’s not partisan at all.”

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LIB SHILL HERE SO STFU ABOUT PARTISANSHIP, DB!

tjl says:”

tjl, lib shill and massive db!

Why don’t you take a deep breath and call down. And ease up on the profanity too. It’s puerile.

nososmart: I missed you! And thanks you for calling me a “massive db!” It’s been a whole day since someone has called me a massive dreamboat!

Oooh, please caps-lock your response to me… Thanks!

tjl- db supreme!

tjl and paul went out with Pinocchio, and both now have splinters in their mouths.

Why don’t you try participating in a civil discussion for a change? You might enjoy it, and you would elevate your credibility around here.

paul, you call people partisan, and yet you are a lib shill.

Explain that, db!

Whoa, I thought I was your only dreamboat!

Hey, make another joke about me and a dude sucking on a puppets nose… thanks!

I don’t have to explain anything to someone like you, who makes disgusting and immature comments and insults people while never participating in a debate. I owe you nothing.

sarainitaly says:
June 24, 2010 at 10:50 am sarainitaly(Quote)
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McChrystal seems to be a credible General and I would take his word and experience about military matters over a community organizer, any day.

McChristal was involved in the Pat Tillman coverup

nIce to see republican continue to show how truly ignorant they are, unamerican, and have low IQ’s.

Guess he should have banned Rolling Stone while he was at it.

Yes, whether he’s a Liberal doesn’t really matter. He’s a damn liar and this wasn’t the first time he stuck his foot in his mouth. The President out ranks the General and everyone else in the military. This isn’t North Korea where the military runs the country! The one good thing to be said about him was that he clearly wasn’t one of the idiots who tolerated fox news’ bullshit. Like the President, he recognized that they aren’t a real news organization. Keep taking shots at the President but, he still has his job. Suck on that losers!

I see that this thread has taken the high road. Good job at showing intellectual superiority while making the points that back your individual opinions.
If you must insult those of differing political persuasions, at least put some thought to it and be creative and quit acting like a bunch of sexual intellectuals.

O/T..but funny nonetheless..

Democrat Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania says “minorities” and “defectives” not average, good Americans

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/24/dem-rep-says-minorities-defectives-not-average-good-american-people/

This may be off-point of the article, but, when I signed up at Mediaite a few days ago, I was bragging about this site to my friends and family, at how people here seemed to be able to disagree without getting personal and ugly, unlike posters on some other news sites. Both sides here seemed to respect each other and disagree without being disagreeable. But looking at some of the comments here, boy, was I wrong. Same crap, different site. Ugly pettiness. Where has all the inteliigent discourse gone?

You mean like this Chuck Steele classic:

Chuck Steele says:
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McCaughey should have just moved on to the second ammendment (sic) and just put a round through that asshats head, right between his eyes. At least she could have got that point accross (sic) without interuption (sic).

…. an intellectual at his best! Thanks pops!

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mccaughey-vs-ratigan-one-of-the-most-browbeating-interviews-in-tv-history/

I get it Mr Steele!!! Sexual Intellectuals= Phucking Idiots.
You and Miss Manners are right. Some of these posters have lost their way.

McCaughey should have just moved on to the second ammendment (sic) and just put a round through that asshats head, right between his eyes. At least she could have got that point accross (sic) without interuption (sic).

…. an intellectual at his best! Thanks pops!

YUP STUPID HYPOCRITES COME IN ALL SHAPES SIZES AND SOMETIMES WITH BEARDS AND BAD HAIR, RIGHT?

ConLoonPatrol said:
sarainitaly says:

McChrystal seems to be a credible General and I would take his word and experience about military matters over a community organizer, any day.

McChristal was involved in the Pat Tillman coverup

nIce to see republican continue to show how truly ignorant they are, unamerican, and have low IQ’s.

And exactly what did I get wrong there?

“McChrystal was the head of Special Operations command in Afghanistan when Army Ranger and former football star Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire. He approved the paperwork awarding Tillman a Silver Star for dying in the line “of enemy fire” — and he was “accountable for the inaccurate and misleading assertions” contained therein, according to an investigation — despite knowing (or at least suspecting) that Tillman had died in an episode of fratricide. That episode barely registered with the public or, for that matter, Congress, when McChrystal went before the Senate Armed Services Committee waiting to take over control in Afghanistan. The one person who questioned whether more answers were needed was journalist Jon Krakauer who had just penned a book on Tillman’s death and thought the general’s explanations were “preposterous” and “unbelievable.”

And excuse me, but WTF is this: “nIce to see republican continue to show how truly ignorant they are, unamerican, and have low IQ’s.”

I am not a Republican, I am not ignorant, un-American nor do i have a low IQ. Talk about ignorant….

Link for the paragraph I posted above: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/23/mcchrystal-survived-tillm_n_622919.html

Sara, as a general rule, I wouldn’t try to “debate” anyone with the word LOON in his name. But hey, it’s your time, sister!

Krakauer’s book about Tillman is excellent. He was quite a guy. There’s a documentary about him coming out later this year as well.

I don’t know why I bother… haha

tjl and bootleg, I do not see where Steele’s comment about Ratigan were in any way a personal assault on any posters here. Perhaps a shot between the eyes of a tv host is a little harsh, but again not an insult towards you (unless, of course you are the tv guy posting here as another).

paulmdoro says:
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I don’t have to explain anything to someone like you, who makes disgusting and immature comments and insults people while never participating in a debate. I owe you nothing.”

You are nothing but a hypocritical lib shill. You call people partisan, and then you have your head so far up Barry’s arse, that you can eat his lunch!

What the heck is wrong with my hair????? I am 60 years old and it is full and all mine. Bwahahahahahha.

OK CHUCK

YA GOT ME.

CURSE YOUR GOLDEN LOCKS OF GLORY!!!! I AM SO BALD IT HURTS!

CAN YOU FEEL THE JEALOUSY???

:-)

I am terrified. It’s also interesting how frequently you address me and reply to me considering your directive to get a life. I am trying to participate in a discussion with the other grown ups here. It would be great if you joined.

You’re next Obama. I am voting against any Dem or GOP that publicly has supported this action. This narcissistic immigrant dodged a meeting with McChrystal last year and this told me that the “amateur” president elect was not at all serious about Afghanistan strategies, support needs or the troops. This man will never get my vote for any public office, he has betrayed that trust!

It’s surreal to see someone try and lecture others in adult behavior and conservations as they continually hurl insults and nonsensical gibberish. If you don’t like what I have to say, ignore it. It’s that simple. And it would also help if some people took their own advice.

Thank you so much for the advice Bootleghaircut. I will take it under careful advisement. I read somewhere that people who continuously insult others on the Internet are the most mentally stable and trustworthy in America.

A LIberal who believes in censorship? Curious. Just imagine the comments had he censored MSNBC.

tjl says:
June 24, 2010 at 10:31 am

Sorry MichelleF, most liberals aren’t as highly partisan as you are. We can disagree with each other from time to time and not always toe the party line.

As evidence by Keith Olbermann… who had to leave KOS (for a while) after not towing the party line, and getting insulted. Oops… nevermind.

And yes, ImNotSmart, some liberals aren’t happy with Obama has done his job. We aren’t as one-sided as you and your tea bagging friends are.

Riiiiiiiight. It’s a neat picture you paint… totally devoid from reality, though. Let’s not forget, anytime a Democrat doesn’t tow the Daily KOS or MoveOn line… they get the boot. Or at least, they try to get the boot… the far left of the party just isn’t as strong as some might believe.

Kam Fet says:
June 24, 2010 at 11:18 am

Who’s defending?

Thomas G Williams says:
June 24, 2010 at 11:46 am

Around Atlanta there has been a campaign…

Provided that’s true (which I doubt)… which network did they turn on? Was it the one that happens to be headquartered in Atlanta? Hmmm… I wonder who could be behind the “movement.”

ConLoonPatrol says:
June 24, 2010 at 12:21 pm

nIce to see republican continue to show how truly ignorant they are, unamerican, and have low IQ’s.

So does it bother you that McChrystal was “one of your guys?”

I have to respect the general..but I sure don’t like him. He was a good Ranger and special ops commander. He never got the political aspect to his new position, fish out of water so to speak. He never should have made those remarks to a reporter and he needed to lose his job. More and more special forces troops are leaving the service..the job is too hard to serve under incompetents such as these..I’m just saying.

IMHO McChrystal made these comments fully aware of the consequences.
Does he look like a fool? The King of Black ops…
He made his opinion/protest well known, & walks away w/his honor ,
hoping changes are made to Rules Of Engagement among other needed…
Obama praised him like a god. Thats big in ObamaLand. Very telling.

On Fox thing,did not want to be labeled, Right or Left.. hence the NoFox TvNews..
Who cares? As a Righty that makes no difference to me, unless he showed bias,
or it had affected his war strategy.
I’d definitely vote for him. No doubtaboutit

Here we go…As I stated above,
McChrystal thought his hands were tied, he did not want to Lose A Mission…
As a result changes are already in the works:

#1->President Barack Obama said Thursday that he did not foresee an immediate
withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan in July 2011, the date he has set for
the start of the drawdown of U.S. forces. “We didn’t say we’d be switching off
the lights and closing the…..

MUCH more to come..Sorry Far Left Nutcases
U will not be allowed to lose this war for us

“Sorry Far Left Nutcases
U will not be allowed to lose this war for us”

You already had eight years, what’s taking so long?

What I’m wondering is if the democrats will claim, like they did with Adm Fallon: “independent leader who is willing to make honest assessments of this Administration’s strategic policies”.

“Admiral Fallon’s decision to resign is yet one more example of this Administration silencing our top military”

I wonder if Senator Akaka, D, will ask the same question, except replace Admiral Fallon with General McChrystal.

I know, I know; it ain’t gonna happen….just sayin that the dems have one position on military leaders when they speak out against a republican President and a different position when they speak out against a democrat President.

Obama had to reach back to Bush’s main General in hopes of achieving success. Which is overall, the absolute funniest thing in the world – for once Obama can say: “IT’s Bush’s fault” and he would be right.

Big_F-ing_Deal says:
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Trdofbs: “Sorry Far Left Nutcases
U will not be allowed to lose this war for us”

Big_F-ngD:You already had eight years, what’s taking so long?
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Well..U know us BabyKillin g WarMongeringBibleThumpingGuntottingKnuckledraggingTerroristTeab***s..
We just love what we do …And Need to kill as many innocent Civilians & puppies as possible
::::eyerolls::::

to michelle no the fun is going to be seeing the libs suddenly loving Petraeus because its obama who has now picked him to handle the war, the lib media went crazy today with what a brilliant move it was for obama to do this, how wonderful to pick General Petraeus, it was all glowing, loving over obama , how presidential he was, what a joke, when their hatred for him when it was President Bush who picked him, and move-on now taking off the ad they had used for the GENERAL BETRAYUS when he was PRESIDENT BUSH’S general, talk about hypocritical, doesn’t matter now, obama is going down slowly, as the democrats also, even the liberal nbc poll just taken asking 1000 likely voters preference gop-56% democrats- 35%, so libs get ready, people have buyers remorse for this president and are sick of what he and his cohorts are doing to this country, going downnnnnnnnnn

It’s Bush’s fault.

I think by banning Fox “News” the General is basically telling BillO, Beck, Hannity and the three stooges on the FF to basically go screw themselves. And it I were BillO (forget Beck, the man is a coward) I’d be pissed about it.

That was his mistake! He banned FOX and let the wolf into the hen house!

Your fault, General!

notsomuch – I think that Fox “news” is inherently dumbed down and therefore has an appeal to tea–bag types such as yourself. The general is way beyond that, something tea-bag types can never appreciate. This is really a question of genetics; something you can not be held responsible for.

Ditch the mullet.

ted, suck a big nut!

ted, are you that cocksucker, TRL?

I bet you are!

LMAO– Hi, trl- I sure tore the bark off your sorry ass!

TfT said:
It’s Bush’s fault.

Either I’m blind or it was just added: Anybody else notice the “(Quote)” feature? I selected the above at random just to test it.

…And does anyone know how to add or change your avatar other than creating a new login account?

bamman says:
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…And does anyone know how to add or change your avatar other than creating a new login account?”

They added the stupid arrows and “quote” today.

On avatar, click on your profile, go to the bottom, and you will see where you can change your avatar.

But tell me, how do you add highlight, italics, etc. to your posts?

notsofast said:
…how do you add highlight, italics, etc. to your posts?

Look at the bottom of the page at this blog site where it says “You can use these tags”.

Lets see if this works:

You can use these tags:<a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

notsofast said:
On avatar, click on your profile, go to the bottom, and you will see where you can change your avatar

I guess that’s the problem: I don’t know how to get to my profile page.

I don’t know how to get to my profile page.”

It’s on the page!!

Move up 3/4 of the page and look on the right for your “Welcome” section.

Your profile is there.

notsofast said:
Move up 3/4 of the page and look on the right for your “Welcome” section.

Your profile is there.

Ha! I never noticed the right-hand column.

1->President Barack Obama said Thursday that he did not foresee an immediate
withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan in July 2011, the date he has set for
the start of the drawdown of U.S. forces. “We didn’t say we’d be switching off
the lights and closing the…..

MUCH more to come..Sorry Far Left Nutcases
U will not be allowed to lose this war for us
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#2 +a biggy: >A source close to Gen. David Petraeus says one of the first things he will do when he takes command of the Afghan War is make it easier for U.S. troops to engage in combat with the enemy — but the general’s spokesman says nothing’s decided.

THANK YOU GEN McChrystal..You are a true Hero