I am guess you haven’t read Dr. Emmanuel’s dissertation on the cost benefit ratio to received health care. Because, from what you have Limabaugh saying (I’ve never listened to him), that is exactly what Dr. Emmanuel’s dissertation puts forth.

Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, health adviser to President Barack Obama, is under scrutiny. As a bioethicist, he has written extensively about who should get medical care, who should decide, and whose life is worth saving. Dr. Emanuel is part of a school of thought that redefines a physician’s duty, insisting that it includes working for the greater good of society instead of focusing only on a patient’s needs. Many physicians find that view dangerous, and most Americans are likely to agree.

The health bills being pushed through Congress put important decisions in the hands of presidential appointees like Dr. Emanuel. They will decide what insurance plans cover, how much leeway your doctor will have, and what seniors get under Medicare. Dr. Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of the Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. He clearly will play a role guiding the White House’s health initiative.

Dr. Emanuel says that health reform will not be pain free, and that the usual recommendations for cutting medical spending (often urged by the president) are mere window dressing. As he wrote in the Feb. 27, 2008, issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA): “Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality of care are merely ‘lipstick’ cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change.”

True reform, he argues, must include redefining doctors’ ethical obligations.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676.html

“Rush Limbaugh is the most listened to man in America.”

Has it ever occured to anyone that the more attention you give him, the more listeners he gets? He deliberately pushes your buttons, and ya’ll fall for it, over and over again, and he laughs all the way to the bank.

Without the entire transcript it is difficult to comment.

He makes a very legitimate point, you just don’t like the messenger.

Facts, facts, facts…..I guess the “moment of Glenn” or posts about Palin just aren’t getting the hits anymore.

Really Glynnis, if mediaite is going to continue to do the hit pieces on Rush, the least you could do is put up a current picture.

You are being played, Glynnis. What is remarkable is that Limbaugh is doing this on purpose — he is even stating on his show that he is going to say something and then sit back and watch the media circus run with it. I am betting that you are sourcing this info off of Media Matters or HuffPo or something similar. I was in and out of my truck today as he was saying this stuff and I smirked, wondering how long before this site posted a hectoring piece about his insensitivity.

MARK IT, just under 2 hours.

On Monday he even had said that by the end of the week he would be in more trouble for using Harry Reid’s own words than Harry reid had received. Took only 2 days. He is illustrating things and you are frothing at it right on cue. Why let him get to you like this?

What is hilarious is that Mediaite (especially Glynnis and Tommy) are doing EXACTLY what they blame the right on doing: Distorting and minipulating facts to meet their agenda.

Shark – I don’t listen to Limbaugh; I mean, what’s the point. But are you saying he is not sincere in what he says? How can you tell?

I find it interesting Glynnis doesn’t link to Limbaugh’s transcript but includes links to her colleague Tommy Christopher’s dishonest, easily-debunked article as well as her favorite “conservative” cum manifestly deranged pothead/ghost-blogger enthusiast/gyno-lunatic Andrew Sullivan’s latest ranting about “theocons” and fantasies about Limbaugh cheering on the murder of innocent prisoners at Guantanamo.

When he says beforehand: “Now listen, what I am about to say is going to be picked up and distorted by the media.” He clarifies his stance before it gets disseminated and it involves a much larger point that cannot be summed up in a quick blog link or 90 second audio clip. The language he uses is on purpose because he knows full well those little clips are what everyone will jump on. Look at the “light-skinned” controversey with him this week. He was making a broader point but he caught grief for using that hyphenate.

Want to know how this works? You hear all the railing about his views but no one dares contact him to get clarification — they run with the snippets and it justifies their story because they have “proof”.

So, are you saying that at least in part, what he says is just a joke? Limbaugh really doesn’t mean a much of what he says, but rather it’s a way to get media attention? How are we supposed to know? Does it always come prefaced the way you indicated?

It is quite humorous to watch mediate/MSNBC in particular go after Rush with their misconstrued, misrepresented, out of context, over-the-top commentary about Rush. And yet, still not a single comment about how David Gergan showed his true colors as the debate moderator in the Coakley/Brown debate.

Rush is having a field day with you and he is laughing his ever-shrinking @ss off.

TfY – How would you know anything about his ass? Never rmind, I’m eating.

OK,

Having read everyones input to support Rush. I’ll ask it this way: (assuming what Glynnis pasted in article accurate that includes “Haiti victim”, “give em’ a pill”)

Do you defend the way Rush is ‘using’ the media, or making points towards Hcare debate/policies etc. in how he is using Haiti as the backdrop to make his points? Do you find Rush to be admired for his timing in using Haiti at this point of the disaster to make his political analogies?

Do you like Rush better for making the Haiti victim to Hcare analogy?

What I don’t understand about Rush (and the liberal equivilentsof Rush) is getting close, stepping on or even crossing an ethical line in how you approach making a point.

Would you accept there are better ethical ways to approach or not? I do beleive Rush is doing it to get attention but by definition one would have to calculate to be provocative to get that attention. But use Haiti, right now or maybe even ever with the coverage we’re seeing?

this is great how Rush is baiting the media to write these out of context pieces about him. I bet he moves right up on that mediate power grid!

Telegraph.co.uk is presenting its second list of the 100 most influential conservatives and 100 most influential liberals in America a year after Barack Obama took the oath on the steps of the Capitol to become the 44th President of the United States.

Number 1 most conservative: Cheney
Number 2 most conservative: Rush

That should really get the left’s ire up. Tee hee.

Congratulations, Glynnis, you’ve gone hook, line and s[t]inker for Rush’s “Media Tweak of The Day.” You didn’t include that in your mini-transcript and sound clip.

Glynnis, what kind of sweetheart deal do you have with the management of Mediaite that allows your contributions to be published as news and not opinion?

BTW, I missed your daily bashing of Glenn Beck yesterday — you did a thread on the Palin interview, and just skipped over yesterday’s show. I was looking forward to seeing what you were going to say about Beck’s guests and studio audience — all of them educated, articulate, and accomplished conservatives who just happen to be African-American (both light- and dark-skinned).

You didn’t chicken out of that, didya?

FYI: Here’s what Rush said before the commercial break after which he said what is quoted here:

Here’s the Media Tweak of the Day — Media Tweak of the Day: I would like to ask Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel — Rahm’s brother — if they’re planning on cost/benefit considerations for the victims of the earthquake. Remember, we’re going to have cost/benefit analysis to assign health care to people in this country. Does it make sense to invest money in their survival? Are we going to do the same thing in Haiti,
since we’re the lead country? Are we going to use the same principle in Haiti that we’re going to use
here when Clinton – when ObamaCare finally sees the light of day? We just going to decide some people
are not worth saving in Haiti? Or are we going to try to save them all? What are we gonna do?

LN – does he alway preface his media tweak of day this way or are we all supposed to guess? if he makes some asinine comment without the requisite “tweak”, should we conclude he is sincere or just bull-shitting? You seem to be the expert. Enlighten us.

You would have to listen to his show Ted. He announces the tweaks but the delivery varies. The over-riding point to much of his tweaks is that the press will run with these comments without checking in with him or asking for clarification.

Shark – Okay, I can buy that. But if he does not make some introductory comment, can we assume he is sincere and not just giving the media a yank?

Looks like Glynnis knows exactly what buttons to push on you guys. Keep the pageviews coming, and the comments!

Well Ted, with anything he says you have to measure it and filter out all sorts of influence. Exactly like you have to with any media source. I know people love to denigrate his listeners, but most are in fact able to formulate their own thoughts. Case in point, I listen to him when I can AND I visit this site, as well as numerous others for information. If I were classified as the brain-dead Rush robot why would I be here as well? And for that matter why am I not then brainwashed by the content of this site? He’s a source of info, not the only source.

In the last 24 hours, I have seen the media use this terrible disaster in Haiti as a reason to attack George Bush, Christians, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, global warming skeptics and a host of other conservative and independent voices. Mark my words, within the next day someone will find a reason to blame this disaster on Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney and Glenn Beck too.

Can they sink any lower than this? Tens of thousands of people are dead, and the Left embraces this as a chance to score political points. And they can’t help themselves. They get into a feeding frenzy and launch into dozens of attacks in every direction at once. But, really, they are only talking to themselves, since most people want nothing to do with this shameful exploitation of a natural disaster for political gain.

Wow, great to see the usual dumber-than-rocks-cons on here in full throttle.

that includes you ya dumbf’k felixw- You’re the epitome of dumber-than-rocks and that’s saying alot considering the posts above.

No worries on blaming Beck the lunatic or his ilk for anything, Fox has barely covered the Haiti crisis at all. Only time they mention it is when they discuss some white christian who was there and got trapped and hurt and made it home.. oh my! Good thing fox covered their homecoming! Wouldn’t want to show any of those screaming babies or dirty black people with gashes in their faces just crying for a drink of water ! OH GOSH NO THAT WOULD BE A DOWNER FOR FOX VIEWERS!

Fox time spent on Haitian crisis today – zilch – typical

WSJ- Wall Street Journal – Murdoch owned and operated.. nuff said

Glynnis and her ilk are laughing all the way to the bank at the dumber-than-rocks crew…

You ask how Limbaugh lives with himself.. How ironic, Glynnis.

What is it with this site?

Is the “bash a conservative” daily thread a scheduled event, or does it just happen to occur randomly?

Let’s see some of these so-called “journalists” level some criticism at the likes of Olbermann and Matthews.

“Fox time spent on Haitian crisis today – zilch – typical” You sir are a lying sack of steaming S**T. I sat in the dentist office today and watched Haiti coverage and then more later in a store and still more back home. You’re a liar.

Rush Limbaugh has a link right on the front page of his massively popular website to donate for Haiti relief. Freaking morons.

And Rush raises tons of money every single year for charity. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Haters. Actually listen to his show for a while before you start spouting off on crap you have no idea about.

BJL, you are such a walking contradiction that it defies words. It goes beyond amusement that so many on these threads condemn Republicans and conservatives as hateful and you have to do so with vulgarities and debased name-calling. Next you are going to proclaim your mental superiority by not engaging in anything approaching a rational thought.

I believe it was just yesterday this very page cited a broadcast on FOX as being among the most gripping footage so far — in a live feed from Haiti. But don’t busy your mind with trivialities like facts — it’ll cause a headache.

@sarainitaly: “Has it ever occured to anyone that the more attention you give him, the more listeners he gets? He deliberately pushes your buttons, and ya’ll fall for it, over and over again, and he laughs all the way to the bank.”

What she said. Learn it, live it, love it.

STOP giving this worthless man attention. Now is not the time.

@BJL411 , pay attention;
< Fox News’ Thursday Ratings Dominate Cable News Haiti Coverage
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-thursday-ratings-dominate-cable-news-haiti-coverage/

Thanks for providing this forum and allowing people to correct the lack of objectivity and inaccuracy deficient in this writer’s job performance. As you can see (from the comments above), there would be no problem in someone else doing the writers’ job as a means to fill the void (many people are undoubtedly more qualified). Until then, here’s to the day where writers (such as this) are obsolete.

BJL411 thanks for proving my point by using the Haitian earthquake as an opportunity for even more ugly spin. This time Rupert Murdoch is attacked. By my count, around a dozen different independent or conservative voices have been denounced in the last 24 hours, with some Haitian angle tossed in each time. Everyone from Neil Cavuto to the Wall Street Journal is implicated.

How sad that these deaths are exploited by hate merchants to score political points.

I listened to Rush’s show once, and then I took an oxycodin and the pain was gone.

Disgusting, or heartless, or offensive, or vile. No, these are not descriptions of Rush Limbaugh; they are are description of media critics who take a sentence or two out of context, and never actually listen to the show they are reviewing.

“No, these are not descriptions of Rush Limbaugh; they are are description of media critics.”

Wrong. What Rush said was vile. Listen to it and consider the context.

Let’s get something straight. Like it or not the ‘death panel’ analogy does fit into Haiti but not in this ‘ hysterical raving’, for lack of a better word, context. Listen carefully little mediates and you shall hear a tale that is 100% fact.

If ‘X’ amount of medical supplies and/ or personal is less then ‘Y’ amount of patients in an emergency situation, the doctor or administrator of said medicals will have to RATION them! That’s right, I said the ‘R’ word! Now do you do ‘ triage’, where the sickest get it first or do you do ration by the most effectiveness of the limited ‘supplies’? Do you spend some of your assets on patient A, who is critical and may never recover or do you spend the same amount of assets on patient B,C, and D, who are in serious condition but may go critical if they don’t get treated NOW? And if the person in charge of this decision asks a second person to help with it.., well it isn’t flattering but it fits what can be called a ‘death panel’. it isn’t evil or vile, it is reality.

IT is also probably already happening in Haiti as we speak. :(

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