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Sen. Jeff Sessions: Why Does Elena Kagan Oppose Don’t Ask Don’t Tell But Not Sharia Law?

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Alabama Republican Senator Jeff Sessions questioned the strength of Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan‘s moral principles today. Sessions argued that Kagan’s opposition of military recruitment on the Harvard campus– which she called a discriminatory group due to its Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy– was hypocritical as she did not also protest against the creation of a new Center for Islamic Studies “and Sharia Law.”

Sessions, who spoke on Kagan as a ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, attacked Kagan for being “less morally principled in her approach than has been portrayed,” and questioned why she did not speak out in 2005 when a Saudi prince donated $20 million to the creation of a Center for Islamic Studies at Harvard. This showed a double-standard, he argued, because some Muslims follow Sharia Law literally, in which homosexuality is sometimes punishable by death:

“Around the same time that Dean Kagan was campaigning to exclude military recruiters, citing what she saw as the “evils of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell,” Harvard University accepted $20 million from a member of the Saudi royal family to establish a Center for Islamic Studies and, uh, Sharia Law… she was perfectly willing to obstruct the military, which has liberated countless Muslims from the hate and tyranny of Saddam Hussein and the Taliban, but seems she was willing to sit on the hands– sidelines as Harvard created a center funded by and dedicated to foreign leaders presided over a legal system that would violate what appear to be her positions.”

In actuality, the Center for Islamic Studies, unlike the military, was not meant to be an extracurricular, optional activity but, rather, a mini-school with its own set of professors who would teach on Islamic culture and society. The “Sharia Law” part of that center seems to have been made explicit only to Sessions, as well, as the original report from the time that the Saudi prince donated the money describes the allocation of funds as being explicitly “to launch a University-wide Islamic studies program and to endow four senior professorships, according to a press release. The gift will also fund a new initiative, the Islamic Heritage Project, which will digitize classic Islamic texts and make them available via the internet.” So perhaps some of the tenets of Sharia Law, thanks to this initiative, are now on the internet, but nowhere in the 2005 Crimson report does it say that employees and fellows at the Center for Islamic Studies would have to live under Sharia Law, the way LGBT members of the military would have to live under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. Also, as a separate school, Kagan did not have any jurisdiction over it the way she would have over an extracurricular activity (like ROTC) existing on her campus– protesting the Center for Islamic Studies wouldn’t be much different for a Dean of Harvard Law School to do than, say, protesting the Kennedy School of Government’s existence.

Video of Sessions’ comments earlier today below:

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phil-Bourekas/1538058627 Phil Bourekas

    So all she needs to do is denounce Sharia law, say she would find its practice to be unconstitutional. Perhaps she’ll advocate those positions now, get it out of the way.

  • Puter Boi

    Frances?
    You can’t possibly be that obtuse.

  • redleaf

    More sophistry for FNC viewers.

    I don’t blame Sessions for throwing red meat to Conservatives and trying to get them to connect Kagan with Islam. They fall for it almost every time. They’ll devour any piece of specious reasoning critical of Democrats.

    KAGAN LOVES ISLAM MORE THAN AMERICA!!!! IT’S SO OBVIOUS NOW!!!! TELL YOUR FRIENDS!!!

  • roxsteady

    Ladies and Gentlemen, “Your Republican Party” staring the Keebler Elf, as Olberman aptly calls him, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III. Ignorant, little racist peckerwood! Still bitter after not getting his own appointment to the State Supreme Court. It must be killing this little man to see these Northern Yankee women passing him by on their way to the highest court in the land.

  • Ted

    redleaf – I disagree just a bit. They fall for this kind of bs EVERY time. People like Sessions are counting on the dumbing down of America. He’s just feeding his base; in that, you are quite correct.

  • me1ranger

    She could have taken the high road like Rudy did and tell the Saudis to shove it. And Frances,’would have to live under Sharia Law, the way LGBT members of the military would have to live under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ are you serious? Comparing the use of the military as a social experiment to the dehumanizing nightmare laws of some social cripples is a low blow, even for you. Better pick out your prayer rug before all the best colors are gone..

  • redleaf

    Ted,
    Understand though, Democrats have their own red meat they love to devour (red tofu?).
    But Conservatives seem much more willing to swallow whatever they hear without thinking. My theory is, Conservatives generally like being angry. They carry guns and advocates various wars because they’re just more aggressive people. They like their issues framed as wars (War on Drugs, War on Terror, War on Christmas) because the idea of fighting turns them on.
    And FNC, Hannity, Rush, etc., know this and are very good at tapping into this. They know what to say to rile up the base and they know the base won’t do any independent thinking on the matter.

  • notsofast

    but nowhere in the 2005 Crimson report does it say that employees and fellows at the Center for Islamic Studies would have to live under Sharia Law, the way LGBT members of the military would have to live under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

    Francis, in joining the military, you know about DADT before going in. When Sharia law is enacted , you have to get out of Dodge if you don’t want to live under its barbarism.

  • notsofast

    They carry guns and advocates various wars because they’re just more aggressive people”

    Wars like WWI, WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War. Wars like that?

  • lanquihue

    Almost everyone agrees that liberals / progressives are mentally retarded, and that muslims, generally speaking, tend to be sexual deviants, preferring homosexual encounters with hogs over normalcy. It is no surprise that Kagan, a terrorist sympathizer in my opinion, would impress a muslim president.

  • Ted

    languhoooie – actually, almost every tea–bagger agrees with what you have written (with instructions I assume). And that is because your typical tea-bag type, such as yourself, is working with the limbic system and only the limbic system. So, while what you have written is basically what a well educated primate could write, you are not at fault. It’s simply who you are and there is no shame in being stupid, then again, maybe there is,

  • redleaf

    I can see much of my comments on mediaite will revolve around correcting notsofast, who isn’t quite understanding what’s being written and is, instead, picking fights based on conclusions he’s making up in his head.

    Where in my post did I say wars were never necessary? I greatly look forward to your answer.

  • me1ranger

    red..good thing you have us hyper-aggressive conservatives conserving your rights to exist..you’re welcome.

  • notsofast

    They carry guns and advocates various wars because they’re just more aggressive people””

    Hey, ignoramus, where did you say “necessary?”

  • notsofast

    Vietnam certainly WAS NOT NECESSARY!

  • notsofast

    And redleaf, who is in charge NOW conducting the Iraq and Afgan. wars?

    BHO!

  • redleaf

    Vietnam wasn’t necessary!
    We agree on something!
    We can shut down the internet now.

  • notsofast

    Flip the switch!

  • lanquihue

    Ted, I see that you’re still fascinated with testicles, and now you’re telling me about limp dicks. You seriously need help, homes.

  • Ted

    redleaf – You need to understand that to communicate with me1ranger and notsofast (aka tea bag tyler) will require that use hand signals, or perhaps symbols. Otherwise logical commentary will be lost on them, leaving them to communicate incoherently and blather on until they are well lathered up; you may just as well be communicating with squirrels.

  • me1ranger

    Like the squirrels ted has stuffed in a bag then shoved up his ass. What hand signal did you use to convince them they were only going to be hiding in a knot in a tree..ted. Why does teddy hate squirrels so much..where’s the outrage? How about that Darwin Award toady..you ready to collect your prize?

  • Sean68

    That’s a perfectly valid point. The Sentor might also ask Mzzzzz. Kagan why she regarded DADT as a moral crime of the first magnitude but race-based preferences and penalties (i.e., affirmative action) as peachy keen.

  • tjl

    “squirrels in the ass”…. sigh. I wish there was at least one witty tea bagger out there. comedy seems to be lost on within their tea party.

  • me1ranger

    It’s you libs out in lala land that taught the world about hiding rodents..it’s not funny to an animal lover like me. The same way that using your homosexual term to describe honest, hardworking Americans isn’t witty either, punk.

  • Ted

    me1ranger – you seem to be a little disjointed, even for a tea-bagger; might I suggest you cozy up with The Overton Window, one hell of a “thriller” and watch re–runs of Glenn Beck. That should help.

    PS – I’ll bet you still don’t have a clue who Darwin is, so as a homework assignment, please visit a “library”, a place with lots of books, no shit, and see if you can figure it out. If you have questions don’t hesitate to ask.

  • http://www.heartland.org/environmentandclimate-news.org/ClimateConference4 Just Tex

    Unsurprisingly, Frances entirely misses the larger point. Again.

    Kagan spoke out vociferously, and participated in the banning of conspicuous on campus United States military student recruiting on the Harvard campus.

    But Kagan failed to do so against tenebrous Islamic recruitment, via the prominent placement of an Islamic Studies Center staffed with pious Muslims, who all have a hermetic religious duty to promote Islam and it’s political/legal component, Sharia law, which is the antitheses of tolerance and religious diversity.

    That’s more than a mere dichotomy. That verges on insanity.

    To forbid direct and upfront military recruitment, yet welcome and defend inconspicuous recruitment of Islam from the campus of a prestigious American university, from within a country devoted to religious diversity, is ludicris at best, and irrational and fully delusional at worst.

    However, it is difficult to assume any surreptitious gordian motivations of Kagan and her ilk.

    Especially when the flagrant top of the list of central tenets of American Wilsonian liberalism, has been the empowerment of doctrines that have the potential to diminish the effectiveness and the stature of Christianity, and of American military might, for roughly ten decades now.

    That’s because when the two (Christianity and American military might) are cohesively combined, they have always formed the preeminent force modern for Liberty, and against the always debilitating results of totalitarianism.

  • jrcmi

    redleaf said: “My theory is, Conservatives generally like being angry. They carry guns and advocates various wars because they’re just more aggressive people. They like their issues framed as wars (War on Drugs, War on Terror, War on Christmas) because the idea of fighting turns them on.”

    notsofast, et al, completely missed the point. Cons were quick to support Bush’s phony wars because, in an odd way, it gave them comfort. They feel like “something is being done” – whether it’s a valid “something” or not. They support the RHETORICAL “wars” on drugs, terror and such for the same reason.

    Cons are basically fearful – which is not to say they’re necessarily cowards. They fear anything that upsets the status quo – as they perceive it. They want all their proverbial “ducks in a row.” If a “duck” is missing, they seek to fill in the the space with something . . . anything. If that row of ducks has to include a goose, it’ll have to do . . . for the moment.

    Their world has to be in balance. If it’s not, do whatever is needed to make it that way.

    Rush Limbaugh intuited this years ago. He saw the opportunity to “cash in” on conservatives’ collective fears. He caters to, indulges and, often, incites their fears.

    Similarly, Rupert Moredreck created a media empire, glomming onto the fearful cons “Down Under,” then exporting it here. Thanks a heap.

    Bush saw 9/11 as an opportunity to achieve his desire to be a “wartime president.” He and his henchmen tried to convince us that Saddam Hussein was somehow tied up with bin Laden and shared responsibility for the attack. Cons bought Bush’s line; having someone to blame rationalized their fear. Saddam was, at best, a “goose,” but he was good enough. The righties had a bad guy.

    To be sure, Hussein WAS a bad guy. I miss him like a toothache. Nevertheless, regarding 9/11, he was the WRONG bad guy.

    We had a chance to grab – or kill – bin Laden at Tora Bora. However, taking him out would’ve left the Bushies without a boogeyman to keep the cons awake at night. Their fears would’ve been allayed. His convenient “escape,” in this context, makes perfect sense. Why the cons failed to complain about Bush’s failure to get him does not.

    I’m not bothered by neocon media’s pandering. I’m bothered by the dishonesty they employ in the process.

    I am DEEPLY offended by a former president – and admitted war criminal – who used his office to engender unnecessary fear, loathing, anger and mistrust among – and between – the people he supposedly represented, solely for his own aggrandizement and the enrichment of himself and pals. He caused needless death, destruction and waste.

    For that, he should rot in hell.

  • jrcmi

    “Kagan spoke out vociferously, and participated in the banning of conspicuous on campus United States military student recruiting on the Harvard campus.”

    From: http://mediamatters.org/research/201005170048#myth1 :

    “Myths and falsehoods about Elena Kagan’s Supreme Court nomination

    “Myth: Kagan banned military recruiters from Harvard . . .

    “REALITY: Kagan consistently followed the law, and Harvard students had access to military recruiters during her entire tenure as dean. Throughout Kagan’s tenure as dean, Harvard law students had access to military recruiters — either through Harvard’s Office of Career Services or through the Harvard Law School Veterans Association. Moreover, Kagan consistently followed existing law regarding access to military recruiters. . . . ”

    The article addresses numerous myths and falsehoods regarding Kagan, replete with abundant source links, quotes, etc.

  • Liberty Banned

    The Kennedy School of Government’s is not built upon extreme intolerance as is much of Islam, and especially Saudi Arabia. If Kagen, and Harvard for that matter, were so concerned about tolerance they should not have excepted one dime from Saudi Arabia. A place where women can be jailed for showing their face, or walking with a man who is not part of her family. Also, gays are thrown in prison…for being gay in Saudi Arabia. Other religions are illegal in that country; you can’t even bring in a bible or the Torah. Kagen, and Harvard are simple hypocrites.

  • Liberty Banned

    LOL…Media Matters? jrcmi, you’re quoting media matters. Yeah…just another partisan hack.

  • Cancon1

    Hey can someone quote KOS here? I love that stuff. Media Matters? Does Soros post here?

  • Alz

    To the main question, the answer is because Modern Liberals Progressives have a different belief system than normal people. Normal people measure success as when things are better or can get better. Modern Liberals/Progressives don’t work like this. They measure success as wehn things are “equal”.

    So they work to tear down everything that is good, successful and right while elevating everything that is evil, failed and wrong.

    So tearing down the military is “good” to liberals and supporting Sharia is “good” to liberals. The military brings success and Sharis works to hurt what works.

    It makes perfect sense when you understand what makes the liberal mind tick.

  • http://www.heartland.org/environmentandclimate-news.org/ClimateConference4 Just Tex

    jrcmi says: “Myths and falsehoods about Elena Kagan”

    Is precisely what you’re promoting, by posting links to spin.

    Let’s see what NPR (National Public Radio – to the unwashed like jrcml) has had to say about Kagan:

    “As dean at Harvard, she cut off campus access for military recruiters because she felt the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy discriminates against homosexuals. She has referred to the policy as “a moral injustice of the first order.”"

    http://tinyurl.com/yze6php

    Now, let’s look a lot deeper into the muck of the muddled minds of the Left, to see what “Campus Progress”, A FAR Left organization sponsored by the “Center for American Progress”, which is just another supposedly ~Non-Partisan~ tax exempt George Soros/Steven Bing funded Democrat support operation, has had to say about Elena Kagan:

    “Kagan has also done some notable work on LGBT rights litigation. Her most significant work is on the Solomon Amendment, legislation that withholds federal funds from colleges and universities when they ban military recruiters because the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy conflicts with many universities’ antidiscrimination policies. As dean, Kagan supported a lawsuit intended to overturn the legislation so military recruiters might be banned from the grounds of schools like Harvard. When a federal appeals court ruled the Pentagon could not withhold funds, she banned the military from Harvard’s campus once again. The case was challenged in the Supreme Court, which ruled the military could indeed require schools to allow recruiters if they wanted to receive federal money. Kagan, though she allowed the military back, simultaneously urged students to demonstrate against Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.

    Throughout the controversy, Kagan maintained contact with Harvard Law School’s LGBT community. She attended a meeting of the student group Lambda and spoke with its leaders. Kagan has shown her commitment to advocating for LGBT rights, and it seems clear that Kagan’s experience battling Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell on campus demonstrates she understands the needs of Harvard Law’s gay and lesbian community.”

    http://tinyurl.com/d5y4pv

    With all that, if anyone else wants to make a fool of themselves, just like jrcml has done (again), feel free, go right ahead.

    However, here’s something that you may want to keep in mind:

    “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.” – Abraham Lincoln

  • jrcmi

    “LOL…Media Matters? jrcmi, you’re quoting media matters. Yeah…just another partisan hack.”

    ATTACK-ATTACK-ATTACK! Gloss over your own ignorance by taking a swipe at anyone who brings meaningful information to the table.

    I’m STILL waiting for proof that anything MM has reported is factually inaccurate. You can’t, and are reduced to childish sniping.

    “Hey can someone quote KOS here? ”

    Feel free. I can vouch for MM because I’ve cross-checked them. I’m not as familiar with Kos, (dailykos.com, I think) but I believe him to be sincere.

    “Modern Liberals Progressives have a different belief system than normal people. ”

    “Modern Liberals Progressives” ARE normal people. They lack the excessive fearfulness and mistrust that impairs many cons.

    “they work to tear down everything that is good, successful and right while elevating everything that is evil, failed and wrong. ”

    Yeah they “tear down” discrimination against women and minorites, crooked politicians and unjust laws while they “elevate” health care, aid for seniors, equal housing and employment. The bastards!

    “So tearing down the military is “good” to liberals”

    Wrong. DADT will not harm the military. It will restore the full honor of serving to those who are now compelled to remain silent.

    “and supporting Sharia is “good” to liberals.”

    Libs don’t “support” Sharia. Studying and understanding it doesn’t mean acquiescence to it. We can’t deal with it without knowing what it’s about, can we?

    While too many cons blindly follow OTHER crooked “neo-con men,” (e.g., FreedomWorks’ Dick Armey, front man for the jillionaire Koch brothers) some of us think for ourselves. In the words of the cons’ beloved Saint Ronald, “Trust – but verify.”

    When will cons realize they are being duped? The wealthy want to keep “theirs.” How better to do so than by convincing the lower- and middle-classes to fight against their own best interests . . . and pay all the bills, as well.

    Obama and the Dems passed a tax cut for people earning LESS than $250K. You’re welcome. They are working on reducing Bush’s “Welfare for the Wealthy” tax cuts for those who least need them, requiring the fat cats to pay a fairer share. You’re welcome, again.

    Just Dense:

    Kagan followed the law, regardless of her personal feelings. Since you didn’t bother to read my post before attacking it, I’ll repeat an itty-bitty piece that might sink in: “Harvard students had access to military recruiters during her entire tenure as dean.”

    From the NPR story: “Liberals and conservatives alike praised her to the skies. She shook up the faculty with new hires, including some eminent and controversial conservatives, and she defended them when they were under attack. She even won a standing ovation at the national convention of the conservative Federalist Society.”

    Kagan opposes DADT for being discriminatory. She fought it legally and ethically. Are you just sucking your thumb because you disagree?

    You blather about Kagan’s contact with the Harvard LGBT community for no purpose other than to imply that she’s gay. She doubtlessly also “contacted” the Harvard CHESS CLUB! Does that make her a chess player? She was DEAN of the school! She was all over the joint.

    Your vile intimations serve only to reduce your already feeble standing even more.

    How am I foolish for accurately presenting information? Why are you so fearful of a few facts? Why are you afraid to actually READ MM and follow their links to original sources? Afraid you’ll find out there’s no Santa Claus? (Ronald Reagan’s dead, BTW.)

    Why are cons so scared of the truth?

    If I’m “unwashed,” YOU’RE “BRAIN-washed.” I can use soap, but you’ll still be a dope.

    Here’s something from Abe for YOU to ponder: “A house divided against itself cannot stand.” Discriminating against anybody is, ultimately, discrimination against all of humanity and an affront to your Maker.

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