With a demagogue like Huey Long Obama out rabble rousing and lying , this is what you get .

Where did they bus these useful idiots in from?

Looks like MoveOn hasn’t been totally successful in their efforts:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/video-paul-ryan-gets-standing-ovation-town-hall-meeting_558453.html

Why if you actually knew what was what and weren’t either a plant or working from misinformation would somebody 73 years old even be there to discuss Medicare?

And this assclown tipped his hand when he stated he got death threats for pimping the Dem with his hat.

Soooooo, we have a Dem….who wouldn’t support this guy if he were passing out franklins and free hummers……raises a question that doesn’t even remotely pertain to him.

Yeah…..nothing to see here.

You asshats really need to train your agent provocatuers better…………..

And dragging a 14 YO child to your manufactured event……wow. Pretty low.

Oh, my. Paul Ryan caught a lefty astroturfer at his Town Hall who had been at a separate event six hours earlier and in a different set of clothes.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-04-28-Paul-Ryan-Republican-town-hall-budget_n.htm#

What a bunch of clowns.

Jon Bershad:

You can’t tell this is stage-managed? Take another look at it.

The left is pulling this in town halls all over the country. They’re trying to convince people – like Jon Berhad – that there’s a grassroots backlash working.

The plays the left has are dirty. And gullible media enables them.

TOTALLY AWESOME

These idiots are getting a taste and they’re going to KEEP GETTING A TASTE

Just TRY to take Medicare away from us young people. You take a look at the youth revolts in France and UK lately? CHILDS PLAY

hahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Everyone who votes for the Ryan plan is SCREWED

Cant wait for the Senate vote. Lol!!!!

Bye bye GOP!!!!!

ModerateMan said:
Where did they bus these useful idiots in from?

yeah, how “idiotic” of people to voice their concerns over a proposal which would ELIMINATE medicare AND
cut taxes on ridiculously wealthy people.

you know something truly Orwellian is happening when you have a fairly large % of the working and middle class populations who STILL buy into the idea that we shouldn’t raise taxes on *millionaires and billionaires* and instead we should CUT popular medical programs for SENIOR CITIZENS.

i never thought i would live to see such stupidity. but alas, the tea party showed up (those are the 20%)

and those, my friend, are the “useful idiots” (i.e. the ones defending the ultra-wealthy and huge corporations)

what sort of disgusting assh*le defends people making over 1 million a year, as tens of millions of people are suffering? serious? what sort of total f*cking assh*le does something so vile, so mean, and stupid?

i’ll tell you who: the bulk of the commenters here (spoiled, college republicans with lots of free time, and daddy’s trust fund)

jdubbellu said:
you fail at life. darwin would like to study you.

it really helps if you have an argument. otherwise, you fail, not me.

Its so funny how leftists ALWAYS have an rationalization for why its only ok when they do it. They’re always playing the victim over tactics that they themselves used in the first place. Its getting so goddamn old.

if you work, you pay payroll taxes.

if you pay payroll taxes, you pay into medicare.

so WHY ON EARTH would ANYONE want to privatize something you already paid into?!

it’s so f*cking stupid and shameful that it makes my head hurt.

medicare already has a 1.5% overhead.

private insurance has 30% overhead.

why would you want to purchase insurance from the latter?

Dronetek said:
Its so funny how leftists ALWAYS have an rationalization for why its only ok when they do it. They’re always playing the victim over tactics that they themselves used in the first place. Its getting so goddamn old.

are you saying that senior citizens from, say, indiana or new hampshire are leftists for opposing medicare privatization?

well, in tea party land, anyone opposed to tax cuts for billionaires is a leftist, apparently.

jdubbellu said:
i do have an argument. you suck at life. you are a drain on a productive society. survival of the fittest would remove you from our midst. go die in a fire.

that’s not an argument. but it is something you routinely hear from knuckle-dragging, white, racist, college republicans who live in a Randian fantasy world.

i’m not saying you’re one of those, but i wouldn’t be totally surprised if you turned out to be one.

wow, that was riveting video///////////////////////////////////////////////////
That video is about to go viral////////////////////////////////////////////////
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Show the Allen West town hall screamers… that was at least entertaining…

Glackin said:
I didn’t know there were limits on how often you can exercise your right to free speech now.

There isn’t, and nobody said there was. The genius apparently thought Ryan wouldn’t recognize him if he changed his clothes. From the article:

Josefczyk admitted trying to trick Ryan into calling on him again. But Ryan listened anyway.

Just in, Ryan town hall gets rowdy:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/video-paul-ryan-gets-standing-ovation-town-hall-meeting_558453.html

The “Entitlement-Monster”, those on both sides of the political isle have grown to enrich their political voting base will be the people that bring this country down. It won’t be the enemy from outside, it will be the freeloading, bottom-feeders with their hands out demanding more, that will pull us down.
Bimbo, and Progressive Liberals have forced their view of what this country should be on us knowing the vast majority of Americans are firmly against their vision of what America should be. Across the board, Obimbo and his admisistration has lost credibility. Intelligent Americans are quickly learning that it’s not about party affiliation, it’s about what best for this country. Obimbo and the Progressives Liberals, along with Republicans who are entrenched in the stupid dogma that every issue must be a compromise must also go. This government, on both sides has compromised us into near bankruptcy, and it must stop! To me, that means voting out the embedded “let’s compromise politicians”!! They either do what the hell “WE THE PEOPLE” tell them to do, or their gone!

Hey Jon Boy,
Did you buds at Think Progress mention this in their story:

Paul Ryan Catches Lefty Astroturfer Changing Clothes Then Coming Back For Second Town Hall…

USA Today exposes the fraud that is activist-organized protest at Republican town halls this recess. Their story opens with Paul Ryan calling on a man in the front row before recognizing him, “You changed clothes!” USA Today reports that the man had been at a separate event six hours earlier. Politico reports that “Citizens Action of Wisconsin and the Milwaukee Labor Council have enlisted a traveling band of seniors to follow Paul Ryan’s every move.” But the leftist activists have been unable to match genuine support for Ryan. The Weekly Standard’s John McCormack posts video of constituents giving Ryan a standing ovation after a town hall near Milwaukee.

I love the smell of liberal astroturf. I wonder how much he got paid. We know that libs only protest when they are getting paid.

Sorry, I didn’t read all of the comments before I posted but it needed repeating.

JB,
show the potty-mouths yelling at Allen West…

Glackin said:
Affordable Health Care Act.

you mean Obamacare…

Glackin said:
So, what he did was no different than the teabaggers who rode around in buses mau-mauing Congressmen over the Affordable Health Care Act.

If tea party protesters actually rode around in buses to different town hall events, and if they changed their clothes in an effort to disguise their identities, then, yeah, I’d say it was no different. I’m not aware of that happening, though. I’m sure if it did you can provide a link.

Yeah! tell them how you feel. Phonies! they want to cut Medicare for under 55, what about the guys who have been paying into it since 16?

Glackin said:
The WeaklyStandard? C’mon! Little Billy Kristol’s rag, what his daddy gave him? Don’t they get their “facts” from “F#X Nation”?

It is called Youtube… maybe you have heard of it…

skyfet said:
Yeah! tell them how you feel. Phonies! they want to cut Medicare for under 55, what about the guys who have been paying into it since 16?

nobody is taking Medicare away… except the Libs who are bankrupting it…

skoorbekim said:
nobody is taking Medicare away… except the Libs who are bankrupting it…

this comment perfectly encapsulates the sheer, breathtaking stupidity of today’s modern conservative.

yeah, “nobody is taking medicare away” except…….liberals?

paul ryan’s plan CLEARLY turns it into a voucher system. that is, by definition, “taking medicare away”

the reason medicare is “bankrupt” (it is not), is because healthcare costs are skyrocketing, not because there’s anything inherently wrong with the program. we’re also in the midst of a generational shift, and as such, more money is going out, than coming in. SS will experience the same thing in 2037.

republicans don’t want to control healthcare costs, because they live in a mythical free-market universe. their game plan has always been “wait until medicare becomes unaffordable, and then blame it on medicare, not on the private healthcare industry”

if you wanna live in some parallel universe in which none of these things are true, than i don’t know what to tell you.

jdubbellu said:
they will have to pay a bit longer. thats what happens when you pussy dems wont die quickly. now maybe you will learn why it is bad when a safety net becomes an entitlement.

again, a typical non-answer from our resident knuckle-dragging college republicans.

jdubbellu said:

save your money you little douchebag.

jdubbellu said:
kill yourself loser.

jdubbellu said:
you fail at life. darwin would like to study you.

jdubbellu said:
i do have an argument. you suck at life. you are a drain on a productive society. survival of the fittest would remove you from our midst. go die in a fire.

jdubbellu said:
did you put mommy’s draft card up on ebay? something that rare would pay for your healthcare for the rest of your miserable life.

Wow…just wow. You are a completely horrible human being. What’s really sad about you is that you have no argument, nothing of value to add, just hatred. I hope that you don’t have any kids, because they’d probably be better off stillborn than having a dad like you.

darladoon said:
this comment perfectly encapsulates the sheer, breathtaking stupidity of today’s modern conservative.

Have you read Ryan’s 72 page plan? It’s easy reading compared to Obamacare…
were you screaming when Obamacare cut $500B from Medicare? I doubt it… what would that make you? a partisan hack maybe…

Why are health care costs going up? the technology of end-of-life care…
The Libs do not have an answer… they just character assassinate

CAconservative said:
The “Entitlement-Monster”, those on both sides of the political isle have grown to enrich their political voting base will be the people that bring this country down. It won’t be the enemy from outside, it will be the freeloading, bottom-feeders with their hands out demanding more, that will pull us down.
Bimbo, and Progressive Liberals have forced their view of what this country should be on us knowing the vast majority of Americans are firmly against their vision of what America should be. Across the board, Obimbo and his admisistration has lost credibility. Intelligent Americans are quickly learning that it’s not about party affiliation, it’s about what best for this country. Obimbo and the Progressives Liberals, along with Republicans who are entrenched in the stupid dogma that every issue must be a compromise must also go. This government, on both sides has compromised us into near bankruptcy, and it must stop! To me, that means voting out the embedded “let’s compromise politicians”!! They either do what the hell “WE THE PEOPLE” tell them to do, or their gone!

You do realize that Social Security and Planned Parenthood and other social programs are not responsible for the hole that America is in, right? Maybe something about waging multiple, unnecessary wars at once may have a little something to do with it? Stop believing everything the politicians tell you, and try research. All the money saved from pulling out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc, would help America solve many of it’s problems, and maybe start to become a great country again, if it’s not too late.

ProudCanadian said:
Maybe something about waging multiple, unnecessary wars at once may have a little something to do with it?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fdUBh1y7nvw/TVqGLUCdzcI/AAAAAAAAAd4/JPOO1v8K9jc/s1600/iraq-war-cost.jpg

jdubbellu said:
how must it suck that a white knuckle-dragger manages to makes high six figure income, and you come to a website to bitch how you need someone to take care of you. you should try match.com.

Only a contemptibly egotistical and shallow person brags about his income or imagines that it makes his common trash posts more credible!

jdubbellu said:
hahaha a canadian judging whats human!! hahaha

Once again, nothing of substance in your post. Why do you bother? I’m genuinely curious…is your life so sad and empty that this is all you have? Or is this something to do while you’re waiting for your kiddie porn to finish downloading?

ProudCanadian:

I did my research Sir, and I was phoning and emailing my representatives weekly demanding that we NOT get involved in either war. It’s not just the cost of two needles wars. This issue hits many levels of waist. This inept, and corrupt government must be gutted. The embedded politicians that have been in office for the past three decades, on both sides of the political isle, must be removed. The radical changes in this country didn’t happen overnight, and those that were suppose to be representing the legal citizens of this country have been more than grossly-negligent in their duty to us. They must be fired! We can no longer except compromise as a form of placating the entitlement crowd. The changes needed will be harsh but must be implemented if we are to survive as a Nation.

jdubbellu said:
your vag, shave or wax?

Thanks for proving me right, you make a lot of money but have no class or intellect.

‘What about me?’ shouted Joe Platte, an eighth grader from Stratham, NH. ‘I’m 14! What am I going to do?’”

Somebody needs to slap the crap out of this kid….at 14 looking for a handout…his parents must be so proud.

Good grief!

And more ….

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/29/guinta-14-year-old-medicare/

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/28/rep-barletta-laughs-at-constituents-who-question-his-support-for-oil-subsidies/

Alice67 said:
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/28/rep-barletta-laughs-at-constituents-who-question-his-support-for-oil-subsidies/

That was one guy yelling in a class room full of people…
I’ld be laughing also… in fact I am laughning…

ProudCanadian said:
Or is this something to do while you’re waiting for your kiddie porn to finish downloading?

PLEASE do not drag innocent children into your flame wars. Though I agree with the points you are making … this is NOT acceptable. I’m asking you to stop.

Alice67 said:
PLEASE do not drag innocent children into your flame wars. Though I agree with the points you are making … this is NOT acceptable. I’m asking you to stop.

You’re absolutely right, and I apologize…guess I got heated. I still think jdubbellu does questionable things involving farm animals, but I will leave children out of it.

jdubbellu said:
that makes you failures feel good about yourselves, doesn’t it?

that would be an ‘F’ for 1st grade grammar

jdubbellu said:
parasite? i employ people. many families make their living off my business. tell me joey, what have you done for this fine country to justify your burden on us?

Prove it. Let’s see your papers.

–Cobra

ProudCanadian said:
You’re absolutely right, and I apologize…guess I got heated. I still think jdubbellu does questionable things involving farm animals, but I will leave children out of it.

Thanks :)

sorry, didn’t read that properly…..

as for your substance: this is a very typical college republican tactic. blame those struggling to make it, including tired and neglected SENIOR CITIZENS, rather than the selfish and uninterested wall street thugs driving the economy.

and whenever a democrat (read: right of center blue dog) merely attempts to suggest that maybe, just maybe, we should ask BILLIONAIRES to pay a little more in taxes, you forgive the latter, and blame the former for engaging in “class warfare”

i’m so f*cking sick of these small dick, Randian wackos (who are really just white college republicans, deeply fearful of their own masculinity, and needing to project their weaknesses upon those who don’t drive sports cars and watch golf on television)…..

europe may have its problems, but just visit europe to get a sense of how their policy debates make us look like a bunch of 3rd graders.
.

Cobra said:
Prove it. Let’s see your papers.

–Cobra

yet another lame conservative argument: “i employ people”

so what?

i volunteer every night at the local food bank.

why is your contribution any better than mine?

darladoon said:
what sort of disgusting assh*le defends people making over 1 million a year, as tens of millions of people are suffering? serious? what sort of total f*cking assh*le does something so vile, so mean, and stupid?

i’ll tell you who: the bulk of the commenters here (spoiled, college republicans with lots of free time, and daddy’s trust fund)

.
Really? I’m a young trust fund baby?

BHO and Zuckerman both agree that MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES (which they are) should have their tax rates raised.

Funny then that the proposed increase starts at a EARNED INCOME of $200,000 for singles and $250,000 for families. The bulk of MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES are such b/c of accumulated wealth and revenues other than what the tax code classifies as earned income.

The Tax Code is the problem:

“If you take Timothy Geithner, Tom Daschle and Nancy Killefer at their word, they are intelligent people, who have held important jobs in government.

And they couldn’t figure out their taxes.

Former Sen. Daschle helped write tax laws. Killefer chaired the Internal Revenue Service Oversight Board. Timothy Geithner, who now oversees the IRS, was an undersecretary of the Treasury.

But the U.S. tax code is 67,204 pages long — about as long as 112 copies of James Joyce’s Ulysses. And just about as comprehensible.

There are reportedly 1,638 different tax forms, from the 1040 Short Form, to Form 8615, “Tax for Children Under Age 18 with Investment Income of More Than $1,700,” which I wish pertained to our daughters.”

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100377301

darladoon said:
what sort of disgusting assh*le defends people making over 1 million a year, as tens of millions of people are suffering? serious? what sort of total f*cking assh*le does something so vile, so mean, and stupid?

I must be stupid then b/c I support a cut in current SS payments AND changes to Medicare for both current recipients and future retirees. If we don’t I am nothing more than a blood sucking leech who is willing to condemn my children and grandchildren to life in a steadily crumbling US with all the nasty worldwide consequences that that would inevitably lead to.

These programs serve such now rapidly accelerating numbers that even small cuts and economies will yield huge benefits to us all.

The only stupid, mean and vile course is to hold onto to everything we have until the inevitable collapse which will leave us all grasping at nothing.

jdubbellu said:
you are a f*cking liar, his plan doesnt touch senior citizens you f*cking fear monger. why are you so obsessed with penises?

his plan doesn’t touch CURRENT senior citizens. but for those under 55?

well, you know the answer to that.

Grammie said:
.
Really? I’m a young trust fund baby?

so you’re going after geithner and the tax code, rather than agreeing that the ultra-wealthy should pay what they paid under clinton (an extraordinarily successful time for the well-to-do)?

BHO and Zuckerman both agree that MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES (which they are) should have their tax rates raised.

Funny then that the proposed increase starts at a EARNED INCOME of $200,000 for singles and $250,000 for families. The bulk of MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES are such b/c of accumulated wealth and revenues other than what the tax code classifies as earned income.

The Tax Code is the problem:

“If you take Timothy Geithner, Tom Daschle and Nancy Killefer at their word, they are intelligent people, who have held important jobs in government.

And they couldn’t figure out their taxes.

Former Sen. Daschle helped write tax laws. Killefer chaired the Internal Revenue Service Oversight Board. Timothy Geithner, who now oversees the IRS, was an undersecretary of the Treasury.

But the U.S. tax code is 67,204 pages long — about as long as 112 copies of James Joyce’s Ulysses. And just about as comprehensible.

There are reportedly 1,638 different tax forms, from the 1040 Short Form, to Form 8615, “Tax for Children Under Age 18 with Investment Income of More Than $1,700,” which I wish pertained to our daughters.”

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100377301

I must be stupid then b/c I support a cut in current SS payments AND changes to Medicare for both current recipients and future retirees. If we don’t I am nothing more than a blood sucking leech who is willing to condemn my children and grandchildren to life in a steadily crumbling US with all the nasty worldwide consequences that that would inevitably lead to.

These programs serve such now rapidly accelerating numbers that even small cuts and economies will yield huge benefits to us all.

The only stupid, mean and vile course is to hold onto to everything we have until the inevitable collapse which will leave us all grasping at nothing.

republicans are doing whatever they can to defend tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires by arguing that the system by which we levy taxes is inherently corrupt and inefficient.

really, really, really bad argument

and a non-sequitur

jdubbellu said:
if you are under 55 you aren’t a senior citizen, dumbass.

man, are you f*cking stupid. seriously. you are f*cking stupid.

everyone will become a senior citizen, dude. EVERYONE.

so, ryan’s plan will apply to EVERYONE CURRENTLY UNDER 55.

darladoon said:
his plan doesn’t touch CURRENT senior citizens. but for those under 55?

well, you know the answer to that.

Grammie said:

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Ryan’s plan doesn’t touch anyone except those who are a good 15 years younger then I am.

I am saying that I SUPPORT his plan being extended in some ways to current retirees such as me.

A decrease in monthly benefits of just $10 per recipient represents a 6 Billion savings before factoring in the now retiring daily by the thousands baby boomers. A slight increase in copays for Medicare would also represent huge savings.

Hey, I’m willing to step up and do my part for the long and prosperous by the standards of most of the world life.

What’s your excuse for your grasping clawing death grip on every last perk coming your way?

jdubbellu said:
hey f*ckstick when they designed those programs, people only lived to their early 70’s. people are living long past that now and guess what genius, they are going to have to work longer. you want to retire early? don’t be a loser.
and you have the balls to call me stupid? lmao

uh, that’s yet another non-sequitur

you dodged the thread we were on

ryan’s plan applies to people currently under 55, correct?

his plan entails a transition into a voucher system, correct?

we shall agree upon this, otherwise the argument doesn’t progress in a socratic fashion

you do know who socrates is, correct?

Grammie said:
.
Ryan’s plan doesn’t touch anyone except those who are a good 15 years younger then I am.

I am saying that I SUPPORT his plan being extended in some ways to current retirees such as me.

A decrease in monthly benefits of just $10 per recipient represents a 6 Billion savings before factoring in the now retiring daily by the thousands baby boomers. A slight increase in copays for Medicare would also represent huge savings.

Hey, I’m willing to step up and do my part for the long and prosperous by the standards of most of the world life.

What’s your excuse for your grasping clawing death grip on every last perk coming your way?

you presume i’m asking for more than what i’ve already paid into. i’m been working since i was about 12 years old, and started paying into medicare when i was 16.

putting aside your ridiculous presumption that i’m some sort of parasitic leech, and discuss ryan’s plan for privatizing medicare for recipients under 55.

when they receive their $15,000 voucher, and steam through it in 1-5 years, what are they going to do after that?

and why can’t you consider alternative suggestions like tax increases on the wealthy and corporations?

jdubbellu said:
i didn’t dodge anything. ryan’s plan affects people 55 and under. you said he was dumping it on the backs of seniors. you lie. i stated the reason these entitlements have to be changed is because they are insolvent if people keep living longer, and that is not even taking into account the baby boomers waiting in the wings to implode the system. i suggest you keep with your class warfare, that is going to work well for you.

i will sleep well tonight knowing your life is f*cked. :)

this argument makes no sense, and completely dodges the crucial aspect of ryan’s plan.

if you want to live in complete denial, so be it.

and i seriously hope you never get sick one day, and can’t pay for it.

like every other selfish, Randian wacko, you really better be lucky to avoid having to ask someone else
for help, because you’re really, really gonna look like a hypocritical asshole.

btw, jdubbellu,

you can’t simultaneously admit that:

a) future senior citizens won’t be affected

and

b) medicare needs “reform” (via cuts in benefits to future senior citizens)

otherwise, your argument is bunk

jdubbellu said:
are you drunk? i didnt say FUTURE seniors you stupid twatwaffle.

you now have admitted, on the record, that future senior citizens will be affected

which is all we really need to know

No Glackin, the problem is with people like my mother who run to the doctor every time something somewhere on her body aches and at 275 pounds and 76 yrs old that’s about daily. She has no problem doing this because she pays nothing for doing so and the doctors she goes to are more than happy to line up at the unlimited Federal trough ordering test after test after test and prescribing drug after drug to cure – old age.

jdubbellu said:
give me your address.

Scan it and post it right here. Somebody as “successful” as you is surely capable of that, right?

–Cobra

It’s gotta be uncomfortable when the roles are reversed. I heard Allen West is now pre-screening questions. And what do conservatives respond with? They accuse these people of being plants. denial is not a river in Egypt. People have realized that the elixir you tried to sell them was really just water and they demand a refund, you snake oil salesmen.

jdubbellu said:
i didn’t dodge anything. ryan’s plan affects people 55 and under. you said he was dumping it on the backs of seniors. you lie. i stated the reason these entitlements have to be changed is because they are insolvent if people keep living longer, and that is not even taking into account the baby boomers waiting in the wings to implode the system. i suggest you keep with your class warfare, that is going to work well for you.

i will sleep well tonight knowing your life is f*cked. :)

Raise taxes to the levels of those great Republican Presidents:

Ford: 70%
Nixon: 70%
Eisenhower: 92%

Oh…You didn’t know that Republican Presidents taxed the rich TWICE AS MUCH, if not more than Barack Obama has?

2. Install a single payer healthcare system, just like the State of Vermont.

Get the profit motivation out of healthcare, and costs will decrease.

Simple, huh?

–Cobra

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
It’s gotta be uncomfortable when the roles are reversed. I heard Allen West is now pre-screening questions. And what do conservatives respond with? They accuse these people of being plants. denial is not a river in Egypt. People have realized that the elixir you tried to sell them was really just water and they demand a refund, you snake oil salesmen.

Allen West is a torturer who should be in jail, but you’re absolute right about the pre-screening. His staff was caught in a LIE ON VIDEOTAPE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DagGW-n8J0I

Shameful.

–Cobra

jdubbellu said:
so what? thats the whole point! no wonder you are one of life’s little failures…

who turns the computer on for you?

i just want you on the record admitting that you want to privatize health care for senior citizens

i.e. you want to literally kill grandma

jdubbellu said:
do you always carry on a conversation with yourself? how were you not aborted?

-jdubbellu

1. jdubbellu won’t show his papers
2. jdubbellu can’t refute arguments
3. jdubbellu won’t address facts
4. jdubbellu resorts to name-calling and personal attacks

Yes, Glackin, jdubellu is the face of today’s conservative movement.

–Cobra

Glackin,

I know. He’s not fooling anybody. Just Another right winger mad at the world for leaving him behind.

Cobra

i wonder how he enjoys it and he is caught trying to defend a lie to boot. He should be bood.

Has anyone blogging here actually READ the so-called “Path To Prosperity”? Because it sounds to me like a lot of you are taking snippets as presented in the media as knowledge of the FULL budget pan, if one can seriously call it that. I’ll say one thing about it: It IS a path to prosperity, but only for those who are ALREADY prosperous and don’t need the leg-up this piece of garbage gives them for more. It should in reality have been called “The Path to MORE Prosperity”, at least for the “haves”. Why am I not surprised that most Republicans back it? Even the party’s minions, the Tea Partyers, are stupid enough to really believe this thing is going to solve anything. What really astounds me is the short memories the Republicans as a whole seem to have. The way they address every single issue, it’s as if they really believe all our financial troubles started the minute Obama became President, while having NO apparent recollection of the mine field he had to step into left for him by their buddy W that took the eight years that preceded Obama to wire up. and get ready for him. The Tea Partyers, meanwhile, just aren’t seeing that they’re nothing but very vocal tools of the Republican establishment, invented by the Republican Party to verbalize what they call the “concerns of ordinary Americans” to create an atmosphere of anger. I for one look forward to the day when what the Republicans have wrought for themselves comes crashing down around their ears and that this whole “Path To Prosperity” gets seen for the money-grab it really is. In short, “It’s NOT the economy, stupid!”. The economy has nothing to do with it, power-mongering DOES.

Some people love the idea of the government (that would be the taxpayers) taking responsibility for their lives. Most people do not because they are self-sufficient and self-reliant. It comes as no surprise that those who want to put their responsibility off on others would voice their opinions.

Glackin said:
Have you EVER tried to appeal a private insurance decision? When your life depended on the outcome?
Did they care?

I’ve had more than one friend with cancer who’d spent the last months of their lives fighting with insurance companies. Just heartbreaking.

Glackin said:
Cobra, be careful opening that.

I OPENED IT BUT MY ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM CAUGHT IT BEFORE IT DID ANY DAMAGE. WHAT KIND OF PERSON DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT? REALLY????

I guess the ‘Licans overlooked the fact that trying to start a class war between older and younger Americans reveals them as despicable to anyone who has an ounce of decency.

I guess they thought that “I’ve got mine, you drop dead” would resonate with anyone 55 and over. Unsurprisingly, even people over 55 realize that we’re all in this together and we’ll all have to pull together if we are to all benefit.

But caring for your fellow man is much too close to communism for these low-watt tools — and many of the posters to this site. It’s actually much easier than they think. If taxes were assessed fairly rather than being a mechanism to derail policy, we’d be in much better shape.

And of course, a one or two fewer useless wars and a financial class not addicted to shitting where it lived would help.

But don’t worry, we’ll still support wingnuts when they get old, regardless of their attempts to dismantle the social contract.

Because it’s the right thing to do.

jdubbellu said:
kill yourself loser.

You can spew but you don’t like it flung back in your face? Sorry. It’s going to be a long road for you up to November 2012.

mediadoubt said:
You can spew but you don’t like it flung back in your face? Sorry. It’s going to be a long road for you up to November 2012.

Don’t ever open a link from this person. He sent a virus as a link to this thread. I still can’t imagine the kind of person who would do something like that.

jdubbellu said:
how must it suck that a white knuckle-dragger manages to makes high six figure income, and you come to a website to bitch how you need someone to take care of you. you should try match.com.

I am soooo impressed by your six-figure income. And high six figures at that! And I believe you, too!

jdubbellu said:
how must it suck that a white knuckle-dragger manages to makes high six figure income, and you come to a website to bitch how you need someone to take care of you. you should try match.com.

I am soooo impressed at your six-figure income. And high six figures at that! And I believe you, too.

Glackin said:
Wasn’t sure, but, as my mother said, consider the source.
Put another way, never take candy from strangers.
It’s been some night. Between jdbllue(?) and WCinWi, I was about to spank some children.
I think I need a new wood pile. Someplace to go, and chop, and get it out of my system.
Is this new generation that selfish? That greedy? That cold?
Hoo, boy, did we f#ck up.
See you another day. Keep the faith.

Pretty shocking isn’t it.

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BatBoy said:
‘What about me?’ shouted Joe Platte, an eighth grader from Stratham, NH. ‘I’m 14! What am I going to do?’”

Somebody needs to slap the crap out of this kid….at 14 looking for a handout…his parents must be so proud.

Good grief!

Sorry to point out the obvious if it gets in your way abusing children, but the right to receive medicare is paid for by taxpayers. It’s not a handout, it’s making good on a contract between the citizen and the government.

Critius said:
No Glackin, the problem is with people like my mother who run to the doctor every time something somewhere on her body aches and at 275 pounds and 76 yrs old that’s about daily. She has no problem doing this because she pays nothing for doing so and the doctors she goes to are more than happy to line up at the unlimited Federal trough ordering test after test after test and prescribing drug after drug to cure – old age.

So let the bitch die, is that your solution? Go ahead and suggest that to her.

mediadoubt said:
So let the bitch die, is that your solution? Go ahead and suggest that to her.

Not to mention it’s just not true that his mother pays nothing. In order to pay nothing she’d have to buy Medicare B for $100 + a month and also buy a supplemental for probably another $100 a month. And she’d still have some sort of co-pay.

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Glackin said:
But then, he would have to kill his mother,
Instead of getting the GOP to do it for him.

LOL

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mediadoubt said:
So let the bitch die, is that your solution? Go ahead and suggest that to her.

Well that was helpful. No but I guarantee if my mother had to provide a co-pay for her doctor visit she might consider whether it would be better to actually lose weight and alter her diet like I have been telling her for years so her CHOICES don’t exacerbate her health issues. Maybe, just maybe, she would NOT go out and rent a 2500 sq ft house for her and her 86 yr old husband because she needs more room for all the stuff she buys. She makes enormous amounts of both unhealthy choices and unwise choices because all her poor choices are paid for by someone else. A few years back she actually told me it was “her right” to receive free medical care and drugs for the rest of her life. And this after she and my dad refused to pay the insurance out of his retirement so she could collect that after his death since they didn’t want their retirement money reduced to pay for this insurance. I suppose I should say thank you mediadoubt and glackin for supporting my mother’s, and many many others, poor choices. In 15 years when I get there perhaps I’ll have a super-sized McDonald’s french fry in your honor.

Oh, and btw, just to derail any supposed “just another rich white-man” comments – I am a high school teacher so no – I am not rich by any stretch of the imagination but I do have a fundamental belief in personal responsibility. That tends to die when others pay.

X-3 said:
Some people love the idea of the government (that would be the taxpayers) taking responsibility for their lives. Most people do not because they are self-sufficient and self-reliant. It comes as no surprise that those who want to put their responsibility off on others would voice their opinions.

Yeah…I bet you want those folks in Tuscaloosa, who lost half their town to an EF-5 Tornado, to march for smaller government and refuse all federal disaster aid. Uh huh…because the free market is going repair hundreds of millions if not Billions of dollars in damage, and if individual citizens can’t bear the burden, screw ‘em, right?

That’s why this Tea Party/Ayn Rand bullcrap stops the moment real life slaps you in the face.

–Cobra

Your choice libs. Youre either with us ” real ” Americans or you’re against us like these A-holes more concerned with how their guy was treated at a previous Town Hall meeting and actually protecting children’s future Medicare coverage.

Wait till the pussy in our White House has to put forth an actual, not hypothetical plan ( solution ) to this looming problem.

He believes he can bull____ you imbeciles on the left, lead you around by your crotch until after the election next year and so far so good…for him anyway….but devistating for America.

The _____ is about to hit the fan in approximately 22 or 23 states over not having any money to fund the illegal democrat quid pro quo pension, benefits packages from the past 30 years.

When the truth regarding this situation and Obama and the dems being helpless to intervene, this Medicare issue will be the least of his / their problems.

Them roosters is coming home to roost……..BIG TIME.

jdubbellu said:
you lying c*nt. there was no virus, it’s a straight link to a chicken and waffle joint I thought cobra could get a good meal at. post a screenshot of your virus report lying old c*nt. god you libs are stupid f*cks.

IT WAS A VIRUS!
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jdubbellu said:
lying c*nt, post the screenshot. anyone from california knows what roscoe’s chicken and waffle is. stupid bitch.

i would not use the bad language, not cool, but alice67(ellen) believes the US drafted women in WWII, so you cannot reason with her

jdubbellu said:
only problem is that word is the most accurate word to describe her…

Go open it ….
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jdubbellu said:
prove its a virus, lying c*nt.

My anti-virus program flagged it as virus and blocked it. Certainly you don’t expect me to believe you rather than my lying anti-virus program? IT’S A VIRUS!

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You proved nothing except you are malicious enough to post a virus that anyone could click on and get just because you were in a flame war. And your filthy words don’t intimidate me. But I sure will never open a link you send and I will continue to warn posters about your links.
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Alice67 said:
Not to mention it’s just not true that his mother pays nothing. In order to pay nothing she’d have to buy Medicare B for $100 + a month and also buy a supplemental for probably another $100 a month. And she’d still have some sort of co-pay.

No – my mother claims poverty so the doctor can give her “samples” – all this while her and her husband have an annual income that is not taxed of 53K (my sister did her tax returns last year). Her husband eats any food he desires as a type 1 diabetic and takes some sort of diabetes medicine (I don’t recall the name) but apparently it is nearly 400 per month (that he pays nothing for) that he has to take SPECIFICALLY because he refuses to alter his diet. I did not diagnose this – these are the words from out of his mouth: “I like this food and I am going to eat what I want when I want it”. And they are not alone in this series of events – look around with some healthy skepticism instead of partisan knee-jerk reactions and realize the system is RIFE with waste and abuse. And please – make logical arguments instead of going straight to hyperbole unless that is all you have.

Critius said:
Well that was helpful. No but I guarantee if my mother had to provide a co-pay for her doctor visit she might consider whether it would be better to actually lose weight and alter her diet like I have been telling her for years so her CHOICES don’t exacerbate her health issues. Maybe, just maybe, she would NOT go out and rent a 2500 sq ft house for her and her 86 yr old husband because she needs more room for all the stuff she buys. She makes enormous amounts of both unhealthy choices and unwise choices because all her poor choices are paid for by someone else. A few years back she actually told me it was “her right” to receive free medical care and drugs for the rest of her life. And this after she and my dad refused to pay the insurance out of his retirement so she could collect that after his death since they didn’t want their retirement money reduced to pay for this insurance. I suppose I should say thank you mediadoubt and glackin for supporting my mother’s, and many many others, poor choices. In 15 years when I get there perhaps I’ll have a super-sized McDonald’s french fry in your honor.

Well it’s abundantly clear that you have issues with your mother. However, to project your personal experience into policy for all Americans is pretty foolish.

One of the innovations in health care today is “wellness care,” where people at risk of one ailment or the other are taught how to modify their behavior and thereby achieve better outcomes. Rather than stewing about your mother’s choices, maybe you could steer her toward such resources. Who knows? You might help make the cost of health care lower for all of us!

Barack Must Go said:
Your choice libs. Youre either with us ” real ” Americans or you’re against us like these A-holes more concerned with how their guy was treated at a previous Town Hall meeting and actually protecting children’s future Medicare coverage.

Wait till the pussy in our White House has to put forth an actual, not hypothetical plan ( solution ) to this looming problem.

He believes he can bull____ you imbeciles on the left, lead you around by your crotch until after the election next year and so far so good…for him anyway….but devistating for America.

The _____ is about to hit the fan in approximately 22 or 23 states over not having any money to fund the illegal democrat quid pro quo pension, benefits packages from the past 30 years.

When the truth regarding this situation and Obama and the dems being helpless to intervene, this Medicare issue will be the least of his / their problems.

Them roosters is coming home to roost……..BIG TIME.

You’re not qualified to make my choices for me. I’m far from certain you’re qualified to make decisions for yourself, but only the people who love you (??) are in a position to make that call and I wish ‘em all the luck in the world.

I’m plenty real and I’m opposed to mean-spirited sociopaths like yourself trying to tear the country apart. There’s plenty of money in the system if it were allocated sensibly.