They already did. It was called the socialist party and they already took over the Democrat party.

Obama’s Donner Party just got our credit rating downgraded  
Cut Cap and Balance=AAA

Hey Josh, is this job as a summer intern at Mediaite for high school credit?

that was awesome!

like maher said, we’ll match you crazy for crazy

What is your issue with Josh Feldman and his article?

You already meet that requirement. In fact, dare I say, liberals are far worse.

I thought Mediaiate was a site that talked about media-related issues. Not liberal or conservative political strategy. That would be my gripe with the articles.

Now if Josh or another member created a new talking point, that’d be interesting. However, it’s all broken record articles.

well, that’s why you’re delusional

The scientist would be the one to actually try and answer the question lol.

Maybe you should take some people hostage, seems to work well for your congressional counter-parts.

Dude – There were liberals in Madison that dressed up as literal zombies outside of a Special Olympics event. You have no grounds to speak. There is far too much photographic evidence, among other evidence, to represent this fact.

I’m glad that you’re not a part of my political party structure. You’re far too corrupt. And nutty.

Actually, the S&P report specifically cites the (R) refusal to even CONSIDER tax increases – which are, quite logically, part of a balanced financial approach to our debt.

Yes, they did dress up as zombies. It’s called political theater. Those who dressed up in tricorn hats were there because they enjoy dress-up, I think.

20 is correct.. LMAO

Nope – they were there in protest of the Governor. It was uncivil to do what they did, plain and simple.

R’s consider them….as part of tax reform.

Do the Democrats really need any more insane people pushing them further to the left? How much worse does Maher think it needs to be? Maybe he’s looking to be the president of this party, he certainly qualifies.

Its called “SEIU”.

(R)  Budget closes loopholes, reforms the tax structure, cuts over 6 trillion and has passed the house.  But don’t let facts get in your way.

Thank you for an answer.

If the Left gets any crazier, we will be in an all out civil war.

I thought democrats already ate their own?

If the Tea Party truly were crazies disconnected from the voters, they would not have any power.  What part of that fundamental concept does Maher fail to understand?  The people know the true crazies are those that want to continue defecit spending when we are already on the brink of collapse.

Can anyone tell me when this douche bag was ever funny. Was it the seventies? I really don’t remember but I can tell you that if his show actually relied on ratings, he wouldn’t be on HBO. He would be on Current TV with the nut job Keith and the fraud Al Gore. Maybe he could round out the all-star line of Mathews, Schultz, Poverty Pimp Sharpton?, O’Donnell and Mr. Maddow. Priceless. Low ratings=success in the bizzarro world of liberal programming.

According to the latest Gallup polls, 22% of Americans are call themselves Tea Partiers and 21% of Americans are Liberals.
So here’s a new rule for you Maher and HBO…GFY’s…you’re way over represented in the media and politics and we have you outnumbered.

Maybe Soros can finance a laboratory to create a master race of Obama-gargling ‘Maherbots that can actually sit in a chair and touch the floor with their feet.

Since our credit rating was downgraded almost solely due to leftist entitlement spending, here’s another rule for the fringe leftists like Maher…STFU, you’re destroying the country. Let the grown-ups run things.

I’m not going to lie, before his sharp turn for the darkside (liberalism) he was actually enjoyable to watch.  He hated the left and right equally, and was an interesting comic.  However, it seems he’s been bought off by some idiot on the left and has gotten much angrier.

God, they love themselves.

I’m tired of Bill Maher articles, he’s not all that interesting.  Is he guaranteed an article every week?

Only the ones what are bred pacifically ‘fer it.

Just move NYC to California and let the spoiled little leftist brats have their own shitty little marxist country. They can call it “Grease”.  We can send all the illegal immigrants and welfare gangbangers there and they can feed them like pigeons, as is their want.

I’m not a fan of the TP.  However, they have quite a valid point about us running low on funds.  I’ve heard some experts claim 40% of every dollar we spend is borrowed.

We used to say that his old show Politically Incorrect, would’ve been much funnier if they got rid of him and just had the panel of guests.

It’s a good thing to reflect on your life experiences to help you form your outlook on life and the world around you.

The problem with you is you repeat the same stories so much, it just proves how limited your life experiences actually are and it is clearly reflected in your limited views.

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I don’t think you can out Psycho the teabaggers. But at least their astroturf movement is fading into the sunset.  

If the Tea Party truly were crazies disconnected from the voters, they would not have any power.

They only have power in the land of out of touch Washington.  In the land of Reality they are even less popular, less powerful, than the GOP.

Since our credit rating was downgraded I guess you nutsucking teabaggers got what you wanted. STFU hobbits your destroying our country just to try to get the black guy out of office.

How would you know you don’t even watch the videos before making dumbass comments.

As long as he’s funny and tells the truth about slapnutz teabaggers, yeah he gets an article every week.

BOO!  He’s off for 6 weeks!

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Fact: Tea Party isn’t the Republican alone, aren’t
the Democrats alone or any other group alone it’s made up of all of them as
one. Tea Party is about getting less government, less spending and for the
needed streamlined government that’s left to be more fiscally responsible with
how it uses its money. That’s crazy isn’t it Mahar and morons like kitty?

Fact: You’re right the demarodents sat around to busy
with men’s ball sac’s in their mouth spending the people’s money on
entitlements at a rate at 100% GDP and then act shocked about how it happened.
You progressives cult wacko’s has done a great job but sorry we are still a
republic last time I looked.

Fact: I agree it’s long overdue that the demarodents with men’s ball sac’s in their mouths go by the wayside and get booted out in 2012. Great post!

Fact: He’s been off his whole life moron! hahahahahaha………….

Fact: I’m sure Mahar has his share of men’s ball sac’s to choose from because around here allot of wacko’s like him! He does get covered here also.

i bet you dont leave your computer, loser.

Fact: Your coming to the realization the teabaggers are the real psychos and its eating you up inside.  Thanks! I thought it was good post too.  

 I find it interesting that the major power centers of the world, LA, San Fran, New York City, are all liberal cities. Amazing that Wall Street wouldn’t want to live in Bumfuck, Kansas.

What the hell? There was a poll released today that showed that the tea baggers have record low approval ratings. The more the average americans hear about these twits, the less they like them. Just cause the voters (stupidly) voted for these morons in didn’t think they were going to do the moronic things they’re doing. It was supposed to be all about jobs jobs jobs. If you look at the polls, the tea bagger policies are horrendously unpopular, and the evil librul soshialist policies are very popular. Taxing the rich, keeping a tighter leash on wall street, don’t touch medicare, SS, or public university funding, etc.

Also, just because I have to mention it, the great Republican president Eisenhower had 90%+ top tax rates. Almost THREE times bigger than Chairman Obamao currently has. Learn some history for god’s sake, tea baggers.

 Exactly how are the tea baggers different from the republicans? ALL THE TEA BAGGER CONGRESSMAN RAN ON THE REPUBLICAN TICKET!

I am an economist, I can tell you from the data i’ve seen over the last two days, which is making my hair turn white, we are rapidly closing on an economic end of days. The way the global systems are functioning now, my best guess, which is all I can do, give a projection of a catastophic collapse sometime between the end of 2013 and 2015. It won’t matter how much you have, the dollar, euro, yen, sterling etc. will all be worth nothing. I am a democrat, but am beginning to believe that republicans actually do understand the dire straits to a certain degree but they’re solution is catastrophic. It is more of the same, in extremis.

 I am genuinely beginning to believe that what I originally thought were just republican corporate shills making what from an economic standpoint are suicidal policies are actually attempting in their own way to stem the tide. This is a tragedy. Both sides actually want the same things, their ideas about how to get there are dangerously askew. We can no longer hear each other and we will pay the price, ultimately because of an old fashioned lack of courtesy and willingness to be open minded. It is a horrible thing to say but we are going to get, both sides, what we deserve, which is tumble weed. I don’t see the republicans giving ground because they feel they can’t in defense America. America. I have loved this country since I watched Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. Generations to come will look back at ALL of us with scorn, as an ugly economic episode in world history and the catastrophic mistakes we are making now will someday serve the future. I am sorry, I don’t know know what to do, I feel powerless, I am publishing my results soon, but have already noticed two papers published echoing my projections in the last 2 weeks although the time frames are longer, but they didn’t have the data. Their figures if appropriately adjusted closely echo mine.As for china, contrary to popular belief, the horrific data I’m reading suggests they are in almost as bad a position believe it or not.. I am not joking, the internal indices are dreadful, the projections are dire. We need not worry about them becoming some kind of economic superpower whilst we collapse, they ARE coming with us. There is no other comfort coming. As for me I am currently researching the most efficient small scale domestic wind turbine I can find. I am also buying bicycles and I do hate to say this but firearms as well. I advise the gradual stocking up on non perishable foods, first aid and books on home triage/healthcare and will begin to have a series of ‘ailments’ to get prescriptions for antibiotics to stockpile. I have liquidated my assets, and am selling my house to get out of urban areas, which are going to become extremely dangerous environments. I have sought the professional help of two independent mental health care professionals at the behest of my wife and they have given me a clean bill of health.I do wish I believed in god, I could do with the comfort right now, but history is replete with unforeseen man made disasters. If you have faith I do genuinely envy you.I never post on sites like this, In fact I rarely post anywhere with the exception of my own esoteric area of expertise. I simply need to speak, not for you to listen but for me to speak. I don’t talk to my wife about this anymore because she is extremely upset, being a physicist she gets the gist of what my research indicates and we have agreed on this course of action but are avoiding the topic now as if we are pretending it’s not real. Denial seems to be easier for her. Our children know there is something wrong. I have my colleagues over every night now and we are discussing this like some sort of secret war cabinet, some are falling apart, I can see the aging in their faces.I watched Bill’s show tonight and almost wanted to cry at the futility of it. Numbers don’t lie, but people lie about numbers.I am so tired.Good luck and best wishes whatever may come. Yours sincerely Liam.

You can watch the bad news break here if we aren’t pulled:-

http://www.cebr.com/

Ps. nobody else here is smiling.

The Democrats already ARE the Donner Party.

They are cannibalizing America.

“First the liberals came for our wallets, then our jobs, then our homes, and then they came for our children, to warp their minds with their liberal brainwashing.”

“A source says Republicans saying that they refuse to accept any tax
increases as part of a larger deal will be part of the reason cited.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/08/govt-official-us-expecting-sp-downgrade.html

Every tea bagger here needs to read that line at least 5 thousand times.

And again, I wonder if these idiots understand that Obama has the 3rd lowest tax rates in the past 80 years. Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and even lord Reagan (peace be upon him) had higher tax rates than Obama did. But I don’t expect tea baggers to believe all that fancy librul soshialist university readin’ books!

He should be sent to a nice cell in Guantanamo Bay and raped repeatedly by Roseanne Barr.

I bet your mother helped you spell that typo-filled sentence, moron.

The black guy is GONNA be out of office next November.

What a pity – if the election were next week he wouldn’t get 30% of the vote.

Only 5 more months until Walker gets recalled!! Its a shame that the Republicans and their stooges Americans for Prosperity have to send out false absentee ballots   The party of Nixon lives on. You would think they would’ve learned their lesson after Watergate.  

 Socialists wanted to extend the bush tax cuts? and reach a debt ceiling deal that’s ALL spending and NO revenues? must be one of those middle Russia variety types…

Fact: Read it again here moron it’s a spending problem not a tax problem! Spending at 100% GDP is loony tunes Obama razzle dazzle!

Fact: We are the Demarodents ” It is futile to resist us”.

Fact: We are the Demarodents ” It is futile to resist us”.

Fact: How about those crazy people saying that we are moving into the new world order where all governments combine together and all forgive each others debts. The question is once all are grouped who is in charge. Masons?

Fact: I’m not a demarodent Govpuppet!

Fact: I eat and take a few shits too.

Fact: Teabaggers are demarodents with men’s balls
beside their tongues so what does that have to do with republicans?

I would not want to be a Fox News commentator explaining the rationale for the downgrade. Republicans don’t care about the average working man and woman or the small business owner, but they do care about their own wallets and purses. If it is clear that their unwillingness to raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires and close egregious tax loopholes is killing Wall Street and driving down their own 401K’s then they may begin to compromise.

And where were the teabaggers when the recession began in 2007 or at its worst in 2008. For some unexplained reason, they had to wait until early 2009 to emerge. Oh wait!! That’s concurrent with the election of the first black Democratic president. Hmmmmmm.

A little fact to my little friend: It’s still not nearly as long as the recess Boehner gives his house members.  Why do you think he’s able to maintain that tan while taking bribes from lobbyist at the country club?

My little friend I feel much anger inside you.    

 We’ve had over 120% gdp spending in WWII. This isn’t even a record, we got a ways to go. Also glad that you completely ignored the rest of my post. But again, tea baggers hate to be confronted with evil reality based facts.

 I…what? That doesn’t even make sens…ugh nevermind.

What the fuck is crazy about lowering spending and smaller government? 

“The only way they’re going to pull the debate back from the far right is for liberals to elect their own slate of 60 unstable, looney-toon, mad-as-a-hatter, crazy motherfuckers.”

Where or where will they find  “angry left-wing lunatics” who want to “take back their country“.

Dear Mr. Librul Soshialist
Its not just about tax rates-  its about tax rates relative to our spending.  Libruls in effect are saying ”we need more money cause we are spending so much”…   us idiots (as you called us) say if we stop giving you money that will be a great start towards reversing this absurd trend.  Put it this way:  if I gave my daughter a credit card and she maxed it out foolishly, I wouldn’t be increasing her limit on the card.

And he took in the same percent of GDP for revenue.  Also much of that tax could be written off. Finally, state and local taxes were nowhere near what they are now, but I’m glad to see you admit that the left literally wants all your money.

So why don’t you support a balanced budget amendment again? Don’t give that line about we need more taxes, without a balanced budget amendment, the government will just spend more. You could give it 10 trillion a year and it would spend 12.

It’s the spending, stupid.

If it were astroturf you wouldn’t hate/fear it so much, and you wouldn’t have seen the landslide of 2010. The only astroturf was crazy ED’s one nation rally where the place was empty all morning until the rally because everyone was bused in, carrying pre-made signs, that they left in giant piles of trash all over the mall. Compare that with Beck’s rally on the mall where people were already filled around the reflection pool at midnight the night before, and didn’t leave behind a speck of trash, even though they far outnumber the SEIU, whistles blowing bus in.

You’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

eeeeeewwwwwwww!!

Media Matters?

He was funny when he was actually a comedian. When he became a Progressive/Liberal/Marxist/Communist he went down hill.

That 90% tax rate came with lots and lots of deduction. Learn some history for God’s sake, liberal loons.

Now I know why you are a liberal. You lack basic common sense and logic.

So are Detroit, Camden, Philadelphia and Cincinnati. How is that hopee changee thing working out for those liberal cities?

If you don’t like the articles, I recommend not clicking on them to comment on them.  Every time they get a hit, it registers that there is interest in them, that someone is reading them.  Thus, your comment here equals one more person that is reading the article.  I think he gets so many clicks is because we want to argue and usually he tends to have the only articles here on Saturdays.

I saw the scientist at a comedy show promoting his podcast he does with Eugene Mirman and he was awesome.  He was pretty much like he was on the show.  If someone said something, he would give a scientific reason for it.  It was outside and raining at the show, and he explained to the audience that there was no point in running for shelter, since if you are soaked, scientifically you can’t get anymore wet. 

I don’t know about that.  I think a lot of it is going to be based on the Republican side of things.  What tends to happen that if both sides have bad candidates, then America will vote for the incumbent because they would rather have the guy they already know.  It was similar in ’36 and ’40 with Roosevelt.  If you want to beat Obama, you need to get a Republican who is a) charismatic, b) has a strong record and c) appeals to the middle of the roaders.  Reagan had the charisma as well as the record and also nabbed both the base and the people in the middle.  You can’t go in there with the attitude of anybody can beat Obama, because that’s what the Democrats thought in 2004, and we know what happened there. (Kerry wasn’t charismatic, record not too strong, and didn’t really appeal to middle of the roaders, so they tended to vote for the guy we already have in office.)  So this is just a quick analysis, but I do think it’s dangerous for the Republicans to think that they can just win on the bad economy alone.  They need to find someone to run.

More like Military and or Private Armies like Blackwater. When a civilization falls apart the guys with guns and the witch doctor religionists usually do well. 

More like Military and or Private Armies like Blackwater. When a civilization falls apart the guys with guns and the witch doctor religionists usually do well. 

You progressive libs just don’t get it. Your great vision of how things “should” be is a dream, not a reality. But I guess for those that do not beleive in God or heaven, you think it’s possible for us to create heaven here on earth. Everyone is equal, everyone has a great job, house, family and let’s throw in a new car every year. You call tea party members wingnuts and crazy. And yet they are the only ones who recoginize that this debt will destroy us and have fought not to blow up the country but to try and save it from economic destruction. They are called terrorists and hostage takers yet if not for them we would not have had any discussion of debt reduction. That great genius of yours Obama and his crack staff would have spent more and put us deeper in debt despite what the credit rating agencies have been threatening. Before you start replying with attacks on the rich who are not paying their fair share..please read all the research. No matter how much taxes they paid we are still on the road to ruin with this spending. Obama is praised for his ability to compromise and be the adult in the room…his only selfish concern is being re-elected by mimicking the strategy of Bill Clinton. You have to face reality. He is not a great leader. The debt deal was not a great solution as evidenced by our credit rating downgrade. Think of what it would have been downgraded to if we simply let Obama pass his original budget and the tea party did not exist to push for deficit reduction.

bill maher needs to put the pipe down and chill the hell out….he gets worse by the week…..hey MEDIAITE…is that pic on your power grid really Pat Bucannon….tell you intern that they have to do more than just close their eyes, reach into the” RACIST TEABAGGIN HOBBIT PHOTO BIN” and post the 1st pic they pull out…thinking is required to do it right

OMG  isn’t that the truth.

OMG  isn’t that the truth.

who is?

yeah, well he’s been a funny and rich moron.

Mahar is getting more shallow every week, he doesn’t even bother to get all the facts.  He just seems to spew forth his own beliefs regardless whether or not it has any basis in reality.

i’m quite certain that that “Donner party” reference was completely over the heads of his audience since everyone in his audience has no recollection of history beyond when they were born or there brain cells have been completely killed off from all the drugs and booze they consume.

What’s crazy about it is that lowering government spending is hardly as important as putting Americans to work.  And when you say “smaller government” be careful what you ask for, because I get the feeling that if any government programs that you either support or take advantage of in this ill-considered downsizing are effected, I suspect that your tune will somehow differ.

No, A, the Socialists died in the streets 100 years ago to give you weekends, vacation, a 40-hour work week and safeguards so your kids don’t die on the job, at age 12.

Learn your history.

Which is why taxing millionaires is polling around 70-80%.  The Tea Party is dead.  The only power they truly have is in the minds of the Republican megalomaniacs in Washington.

Well let me see. I am only in my late 50s and I remember the ongoing creation and struggle of the unions. Lets start with the dying part. Most deaths were the people who crossed the picket lines and those members where beaten and brutalized by union thugs. My father (a democrat) refused to join a group that used the kind of tactics unions used and moved us to a right to work state. My father-in-law (a conservative) was heavily involved in forming new unions. He believed they were a necessary evil and warned everyone they had to be watched. Thing is that balance is usually the ticket and while we require some socialistic programs socialism itself is a very bad thing. It removes the individual and replaces it with a collective. As it evolves freedom of the individual is actually removed in the name of the greater good. And the greater good often become the pockets of the leaders.

I am less afraid of the word ‘socialist’ than I am of the actions of radical right-wing zealots who believe in some insane notion that capialism in its purest form will somehow provide for the sick and needy in our society. Unfortunately the opposite is true.
I listened to two self proclaimed t-baggers complain about Obama yesterday. They said “he claims to be Christian but never talks about Jesus, I think he’s a muslim” and the other one claimed “Obama never mentions the word freedom, I think he’s a socialist”. Are t-baggers really that stupid?
So, you can call me a liberal and demonize me as un-american, call me a socialist, a redistributor of wealth, Marxist or whatever commonly accepted negative visual image or name you can conjure up, it’s all based on one-liners and FOX FAUX. 

“do your civic duty and try to avoid calling people “fags” while accusing them of being traitors and scumbags.”

Unless you are Bill Maher and then this idiot will treat you like you are some kind of philosopher.

you probably shouldn’t use big words you don’t have a clue about.

hahaha once again bill maher sends the teabaggers into a frothing rage because, well, he doesn’t care about if he hurts their widdle feelers or not.

awww poor teabaggers needing their wetnurses now.

“The only way they’re going to pull the debate back from the far right is for liberals to elect their own slate of 60 unstable, looney-toon, mad-as-a-hatter, crazy motherfuckers.”

Count me in the  Donner Party…. smile :-)

I read a report that illegal imigrants have stopped flowing over the border (for a number of reasons) so as a result crops are not getting picked, dishwashers and short order cooks are in short supply. The t-bagger minority won’t allow an extension of unemployment benefits as they feel it is an impediment to small business, so put away your masters degrees and roll up your sleeves… this is where our future employment opportunities will be if you are 50 or older (or you can work at Walmart I guess if you’re lucky) as laissez-faire government sponsored capitalism merges with corporate facism. And if you raise your voice against them– you are called a socialist.

Bill Maher’s New Rule: If The GOP Gets The Tea Party, Liberals Need The ‘Donner Party’
…sewer-rat maher is no match for the chicago thug….

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,”

–”You Lie!” hussein, 13 June 2008, Philadelphia fund-raiser.

 1. Even with the deductions it was still WAAAAAY higher than it is now.
2. Does it matter? We have a shitload of deductions in the tax code already, and you twits are crying about a 3% increase for the richest 1%.

Many more died from unsafe working conditions than union style arm twisting. Children were favored for some occupations because their small size allowed them to climb inside machinery; workers were maimed, abused and treated unfairly; if you got hurt you were on your own. This is the pure capitalism that t-baggers want… and who would benefit most in this shift of power? It ain’t you or me, unless of course you are of course one of the top 1%.
The belief that the corporate chieftains care about you or your welfare Ajolily is false.

Blackflon,

Actually, Harry is raising a very valid question – Why didn’t we hear a peep from these Patriotic opponents of Gov’t spending when Bush was running up the majority of today’s deficit with 2 unfunded wars, Medicare Part D, and unoffset tax cuts ?    It’s fact not opinion that those drove the deficit much more than anything Obama has done, including the stimulus.   During that era, Cheney was crowing that “Deficits don’t matter” and most of those who are now running around in Tri-corner hats were nodding along with him.

Did you ever make it past the 6th grade?

No, we see Maher for exactly what he is-a complete horse’s ass! And every week he just keeps reinforcing that image.

If you’re talking about Maher, you just made my day!

You wish! The Tea Party isn’t going away any time soon, whether you like it or not!

Ask your grand parents who expect a return on the payments they’ve been making for Medicare and Social Security.  Ask the recipients of Medicaid who will either jack up health care costs with emergency room treatments or die. Ask the people who expect government to “promote the general welfare” (remember that phrase) and to get the roads repaired, bridges replaced and dams secured. Ask your great, great, great, great grand children who may well be living like people in Somalia now because gov’t could not invest in alternative, green energy development.

True, about one out of five people don’t understand modern government and have nostalgia for the past, but most people want effective government, not smaller government.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-incredible-shrinking-tea-party/2011/03/03/gIQAJkxewI_blog.html

The tea party is primarily the backlash to President Obama. Kennedy and Clinton both had backlash movements against their ideas of making government work for the people as well as for the corporations, but Obama has Glenn Beck’s profoundly ignorant genius. making people think and act in ways that fundamentally oppose their self-interest.

We do not have a spending problem; we have a revenue problem that was begun by Reagan and made worse by George W. Bush.

Now, Benny_Hill, doodadio and/or Sandie will come along and violate Maher’s earlier rule that criticized the stupidity of most political discussions carried out by anonymous commenters on the internet.

No, actually, it’s the 30 years of irresponsible tax cuts. That’s why Bush’s first Sec. of Treas, Paul O’Neill, got fired, for pointing out how irresponsible the Bush tax cuts were.

No, the question is who believes idiots like the crazy people…besides Michelle Bachmann?

Actually, you don’t have us outnumber, especially when you consider that most moderates don’t want to have their social security and medicare yanked away from them.

The tea party is sinking:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-incredible-shrinking-tea-party/2011/03/03/gIQAJkxewI_blog.html

We will see if the t-bagger idiocrats are de-elected

That was the best part of the show. With all the baggers standing there in their Revolutionary War uniforms.

Lie much? First off the children you talk of were not the socialist who died in the streets we are talking about. Second your lies that capitalism and Tea Party members want dead children is transparent. Third I call for balance and if you read my post with any ability to comprehend them you would have picked up on that. I say that all power to the unions is as bad as all power to the corporations. What too many of you don’t get is that the unions are not the people who they claim to represent. They use the people as much or more than the corporate chieftains do. They and the government are completely currupt working for putting money and power in the pockets of the leaders just like the corporate “chieftains” do. They are all in each others pockets while the “people” suffer. If you understood how the socialist governments work you would know that those unions will be government run along with all business. Now someone has to be at the helm. Given human nature how much do you think will end up in their pockets and how much in the peoples.  

Nonsense Vicky33, nonsense!

But despite all the rhetoric about allowing the country to slide into economic chaos, it’s still slid into economic chaos. Did you read the S&P’s reasoning. They said, despite the deal they struck it did not go far enough… Far enough… Spending is an issue. Not the only one, but it’s a ginormous one.

Are you sending in more taxes than your required share?

So, you’ll omit Clinton and Carter, but point out Bush? Don’t you see the bias?

I guess you are referring to these socialists programs?  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110316233615AAVIpsf     you want me to keep going? I didn’t think so.

Wow – 30 years of irresponsible Bush tax cuts!…. OMG ! ….It’s all Bush’s fault …… for 30 years !

Yup liberals need the Donner party so they can eat their own.

Benny, he just smells.

“TMP”

Maher, as any pseudo intellectual liberal who can’t see the ramifications of their spend spend spend behavior will never get it. Just go on out to the money tree and pick some more. That is the attitude that got us to where we are now.

I’ve come to the conclusion that trying to talk with tea baggers about important issues is like trying to teach a dog how to be rational– they will just never get it because it’s outside their realm of higher thought… and in the case of tea baggers their fuzzy little white world. T-party =  Idiocracy in Real Time.

I’ve come to the conclusion that trying to talk with tea baggers about important issues is like trying to teach a dog how to be rational– they will just never get it because it’s outside their realm of higher thought… and in the case of tea baggers their fuzzy little white world. T-party =  Idiocracy in Real Time.

Better yet, maybe Soros can finance a laboratory to create a master race of Limgaugh-gargling ‘Beckbots that can actually have a conversation about something intelligent for once?

Wait a minute, I forgot the T-baggers are not governed by intelligent thought it was intelligent design I must’ve been thinking– My bad.

Wait a minute, I forgot the T-baggers are not governed by intelligent thought it was intelligent design I must’ve been thinking– My bad.

You wish. What will you fund SS and Med C with? Out of your pocket? It was the Dems & the Repubs in Congress and all the presidents since these programs started that robbed those funds to cover their irresponsible spendthrift butts. Spend, Spend Spend .. raise the ceiling and they spend more. Their appetites are insatiable. I said we would have our rating downgraded if they raised the debt ceiling. They could have instead payed what was owed (just enough  to cover interest and a tad more till we got our economy back on track) and we would not default  that way and the ratings would be secure. There was enough revenue being collected to do that including cover SS & MedC checks. The catch was, they would have had to stop putting shrimp on tread mills and postpone  the grants for R & D work, and a lot of other special projects, could have required Congress to contribute more to their medical and retirement funds (why don’t they ever raid them for their spendthrift ways?). It could have even forced them to not only tighten the purse strings, but to actually do something about bringing jobs and companies back into the country  thus expanding the tax base.

Instead Obama and the left used the situation (don’t ever let a situation go to waste – especially when you can spin it to your advantage for the ignorant folk) to crank up the fear factor and get people on board  the Titanic .

Too many oxycodon oxycon? Silly wabbit, You said ”…Let the grown-ups run things” you must’ve meant ‘Let the clowns run things’ if you were talking about Cantor and t-baggers…

“Teabaggers” … “astroturf”   … spoken like a true Pelosidiot. They have  you totally bamboozled. No competition there.

He takes bribes like the rest of the Dems and Repubs? TG for the true  TEA Party folks – they might change that all around in the next few elections. 

PU!
“SPH”

Obama is riding on the Bush tax cuts – the ones you all don’t like.  But he has 15 tax hikes coming your way. He wants to wait till after the Nov. elections to spring them on you. Google it and see what you get . And of course there are the hidden taxes in Obamacare.

http://www.libertyjuice.com/2011/02/15/obamas-15-hidden-tax-hikes/
http://floydreports.com/how-obamas-hidden-tax-hike-destroys-your-savings/

Let’s not forget all the union busting massacres of the past, either. Union toughs exist for a historical reason.

As to your belief in unions being inimical to freedom. China has unions you’ll say, but they aren’t independent unions. They are a farce. Iran locks up Mansour Osanlou and other prominent labor union advocates, Mubarak’s Egypt was brutal on labor, and so on. Fact is, autocrats and authoritarians HATE unions. That they can organize labor threatens the oligarch’s power.

And that tells me all I need to know.

He’s not my favorite, but as usual the hyperbolic Bill Maher is on the money. The only problem is that left types can’t be as stupid, crazy and ignorant as many Tea Partiers and rightwingers. They are a much more diverse group, better educated both academically and morally and have infinitely more real life experience. The Tea Party’s power has been blown all out of proportion. They’ve been backed by the most backward businesspeople who now are having second thoughts about the Frankenstein they’ve created, and their major rightwing media backer, Rupert Murdoch, is having his wings clipped by a scandal that is now coming to America. But the damage has been done and one only hopes and prays that enough of middle America will take a more active role in putting down this idiotic reactionary movement.

Like.  How could the debt deal be reached without cuts in social spending only and that’s the key word only,  if revenue and tax cuts weren’t lifted for the most wealthy. D…n those Tea Party Republicans who refused to spend any revenue and those Republicans held hostage by them.  BTW How much of the decifit do you think was caused by the bust of the housing bubble and related the Fanny Mae home loan debacle,  bank closings debacle a few years back? BTW my father is a retired AFM union member NYC local 802.  Finally I was disgusted with WI R. Gov. Walker for denying bargaining rights unionists.

Fabreze ! Glade ! Hurry ! …. Open the windows !

LMAO

couldn’t have been said better.

couldn’t have been said better.

I sure hope so. I think the public is on to the teabaggers or flatearthers. Hopefully the public got a glimpse of their extreme views. But alot of people believe the info. they get from Fox News is true plus every talk show is from the right wing shrill.  The only place where the baggers might hold on to their seats in down in Floriduhhhh. Alot of seniors get hoodwinked and vote against their own best interest. Look who we put in as Govenor…anyway we can only hope.

They were just trying to appease the Tea Party. Don’t give them too much credit.

I think the Democrats should have insisted on raising taxes $3 for every $1 drop in government expenses.

Nothing in the Tea Party agenda suggests that the party realizes that in order to affect the debt, the government will have to run surpluses for many years. That means more money coming in than going out. That’s tough to do without revenue. Of course, the Tea Party may have a chance of success by eliminating Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. That might give the government surplus income, but I’m not sure how. Just have to cut more. I wonder how long Wall Street and the multinationals will put up with that, not to mention the voters.

My conclusion is that the Tea Party has no serious plans to reduce the national debt.

Nope. We’re an oligarchy disguised as a republic.

linkes to newsbusters and zombie (nutter who posts on PJM).  such diversity, sara. you can’t find a *single* outlet in Europe to validate your views?  not one?  just newsbusters.   

but are you baiting us to find pictures of angry right-wing lunatics who want to take their country back http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2328/iwantcountry.jpg?  because you’ve pretty shown left wing loonies from my ‘hood (SF). 

but we lefties can find pictures of batshit righties all over the heartland.  and, some with mispelled signs to boot!
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/sets/72157623594187379/) 
http://coloradoindependent.com/47615/who-are-the-tea-partiers-theyre-white-middle-aged-republicans
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jezebel/2009/04/christian_nation.jpg
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-45-dumbest-signs-at-the-912-teabagger-rally

Thank you for that comment.  This commentary gets more  childish every day. It’s either the left, right, conservative, liberal, democrat or republican, independants….good grief.  Everyone of us has a party that we favor.  But I have never heard such disrespect for the other parties as there is on here.  Who gives a darn about Mahar. He’s a jerk with a small mind and always trying to upset people.  That just makes him puff right up; just to think people are even listening or reading about him. Now you can understand why the dems and repub. don’t get along at the WH.  Just look at all the comments made here!  No one  trusts the other, It’s all Bushes fault or Clinton or Carter or heaven forbid Obama’s.  To be exact …they are ALL at fault. It’s a gamble whether one president can make everyone happy in an 8 yr. span. Everyone wants to run down the other one. The Tea Party folks are so bad they just can hardly be tolerated…goodness! Such garbage coming out of American’s mouths.  Your forgetting that you are American….we need to work together to get done what we think needs to be then.  Don’t just complain or run another down. Get out there and do something about it.  No, instead everyone listens to Mahar and then the name calling is placed. We should be building people up instead of tearing them down. 

It would be so nice if those writing on their comments could think about what you just said.  But they prefer to be derogatory about everything.  It’s seems that everyone on here wants to blame someone else.  None of them in the WH is worth fighting over, none of them do anything for the Country.  it’s all posturing and “trying” to look like their important. They have made a mockery out of our government. No one trusts them anymore….and they no it. You want to be bitter and name call others and blame them….point your fingers and nasty words at the people responsible…the WH. 

I love this idea, and the platform of the Donner Party is obvious. All the need to do is act the way Tea Baggers accuse anyone left of far right of acting.
They need to be socialists, unabashed socialists who want to make it useless to attempt to become wealthier than a monk.
They need to demand the elimination of all guns, even those of soldiers and police.
They need to be atheists who want to outlaw all religions.
They need to all be gay and insist on teaching all schoolchildren the greater appropriateness of a gay rather than straight lifestyle.
They need to insist that no trees can be cut, no animals harmed, no fuels burned, no pollution that would harm our home planet, Mother Earth.

That should be the starting point for Democrats negotiating with Republicans, and any step away from that viewpoint should be seen as a concession on the part of the Democrats.
“Well, we let the cops keep their guns, but at least we made it a little harder for vendors and manufacturers to sell automatic weapons to Mexican drug cartels. That’s progress.”
“Well, we didn’t make it illegal for straight couples to kiss in public, but at least Gay couples can get married. That’s some progress.”
It’s so crazy, it just might work.
Hell, it’s crazy, but it’s already working for the other side.

Thanks for the free ad. You should be careful Viv, your slip is showing. How many pseudo-identities have you used lately to get around the admins on other sites blocking your access to post comments?

You better start working on that insanity defense.

I can see you forgot to read the report.  You might should do that before you comment again.

Sounds good, and us liberals will take all of our tax revenue with us. No more “redistribution of wealth” from the rich liberal states to the teat-sucking “middle America.” Good luck trying to find another country to borrow from.

Dude, you are so NOT an economist. That’s just frickin’ laughable.

Dude, you are so NOT an economist. That’s just frickin’ laughable.

Carter didn’t cut taxes, numbnuts. And neither did Regan: he actually oversaw the single largest tax HIKE in US history. But he did that very quietly about a year after he slashed taxes (with lots of noise). Even he was smart enough to see that the tax cuts had killed the economy.

Sandie, every other 1st world nation that utilizes “socialized” medicine spends less as a percentage GDP on it that we do. Explain to me how your particular logic works to make socialized medicine bad.

Wrong, the government wants LIVE children, so they can come back as DEAD soldiers.

Other countries spend less and the quality of care delivered is worse. The WHO ranked the US #1 in quality of care delivered, but 37th because of availability of care as not all people were covered by a socialized plan. This has been misinterpreted and misrepresented by the media and politicians.

As far as what we spend as a % of GDP: the % was in keeping with other countries until the 1990s when it grew considerably.  Health care spending around the world is generally rising faster than
overall economic growth, so almost all countries have seen health care
spending increase as a percentage of their GDP
over time. Health spending per capita in the United States is  higher than in other countries, but remember that the income per capita is also higher and therefor there are more dollars available to devote to healthcare. Drug prices in the US are far higher than in other countries like Switzerland where their drugs are somewhat subsidized by the more expensive U.S. market, where some Swiss drug companies make one-third of their profits. The health care that is delivered in the US is more expensive as it is far superior in most respects than that in other countries because of the technology  and expertise available here (that is why people from other countries who  can afford it come to the US for treatment). Some other countries (socialized medicine) take in less money than needed and their medical care is inferior to that in the US ( their service availability time-wise is also poor). There are other things that contributed to the increase in costs here – malpractice lawsuits (doctors costs increased and  extra medical testing used to protect from suits due to bad outcomes increased treatment cost), competition of insurance companies across state lines barred, etc.

 The cost since Obamacare has been passed has risen and is expected to get far worse when it is in full implementation rather than better. This of course will increase the % of GDP, not decrease it.  When the cost of medical care is beyond what people can afford and it uses up dollars available for  peoples discretionary spending, the economy suffers and that is something we cannot afford at this point. It would be difficult in good economic times, and now that we are in the bucket … well need I say more? 

LOL  my niece saw your comment and said to tell you ” those middle america states won’t need to borrow because they won’t be big spenders and won’t have to feed the liberal states so they can sell everything to other countries and make their own money, and then they won’t have to pay taxes to the IRS anymore. Aren’t kids a riot? We had a good laugh .

How true. He spews crap and disparages the TEA Party and the conservatives as a feeble attempt to get laughs, and the left just laps it up as they have been programmed to do.

Seeing as how his audience is lefty, libby-progs, you are probably correct.

If the Congress had not robbed the Social Security fund to finance their bloated government,  pork,  and uncontrollable spending over the years, SS would not be in the trouble it is in today.

Congrats on completely missing the point. 
And being off topic to boot. This is about Maher seeking left wing “unstable, looney-toon, mad-as-a-hatter, crazy motherfuckers”

Doesn’t matter where the pics are stored, avoidswork, they are still photos of left wing loonies. 

Why would I use European links to support my statements about people in the US? 

Just newsbusters? I think I used about 10 links, one was newsbusters. Apparently I CAN find other links to support my views! 

I would reply to your other comment, but frankly, I can’t understand your jumbled typing.

Don’t know why you are so worried about misspelled signs from righties when apparently you can’t spell yourself.

Why don’t you try to actually address the content of my posts, instead of continually making yourself look silly by trying to just attack me, and completely missing the points, AND revealing your shortcomings. 

Oh, and about *take back my country* – if you’ll recall, teapartiers were called racist for saying they wanted to take back their country. Apparently the Left forgot about all those times Democrats and Liberals claimed they wanted to *take back their country*. Again, you completely missed the point. And you give me sh*t about *not getting it*… 

*eyeroll*

Oh, GAWD, I just checked out your links of signs to *counter* the signs I posted. LOL! That’s your proof of batshit crazies? LOL! Oh dear… That’s funny. Wow, ya got me! HAHA Those are some “unstable, looney-toon, mad-as-a-hatter, crazy motherfuckers” hilarious. 

Here, how about these images? No links to newsbusters or zombie.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3797554081_21d8fb09a7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/3797552703_9dbdd22d38_b.jpg

You are missing one point though. Those people that are unionized are much better off in every circumstance than those that bargain on their own. If you compare right-to-work states vs. unionized states the wage gap is huge in favor of the unionized workforce. Regardless of whatever abuses there are in unions, TfChuck is correct that corporations have been far more abusive in this country. You only need to consult the history of the late 1800s and early 1900s to see how dismal life was for the typical American. With a small federal government as the Tea Party describes, corporations were free to run everything and the industrialists were virtual kings. Everyone else lived in crushing poverty. Sadly, we’re almost there again thanks to 30 years of Reaganomics.

Glad for family fought for unions, but your argument has a fallacy, Being a socialist, just like being a christian is a good thing, The labels are not the problem, the people who claim the labels for their own agenda is the problem.

Why is it you on the right  think we on the left  don’t have guns and don’t know who to use them?  And why do you think its going to be right that starts a civil war?

Why is it you on the right  think we on the left  don’t have guns and don’t know who to use them?  And why do you think its going to be right that starts a civil war?

I don’t think that.  The liberals started the last civil war so chances are they will start the next one.

All those major power centers are bankrupt!   Great point!

And the point was that the comment I responded to made it seem as though the crazy tax cuts over the last thirty years were the sole responsibility of Bush. Get it?

Ha-ha-ha, Billy Maher, the comedian and egotistical pseudo-intellectual, is so wrong, in so many ways, about so many things, on so many occasions. The Dems already have a version of the Donner party. Haven’t you ever seen them stand in a circle and start shooting at each other? That’s sort of like political cannibalism, isn’t it? Of course, the Republicans unfortunately do that, too, sometimes.

“He called for liberals to search for “angry left-wing lunatics…”

Ha-ha-ha, again, Bill. One doesn’t have to “search.” The DemocraticParty, and in some cases the liberal mainstream media, is already full of them. 

Um. 22% of Americans call themselves Tea Partiers? Could you please provide a link or other factual basis for that statistic? I find that *incredibly* difficult to believe.
Here’s a Gallup poll for you. As of 3 months ago, 47% of Americans disapproved of the Tea Party. http://www.gallup.com/poll/147308/negative-views-tea-party-rise-new-high.aspx

do you mean the war of northern agression?    thought that was started so the congress of the time could keep taxing the southern states?

And this is your conclusion from one article showing one poll? Vicky33, you know your not going to be able to stand on that alone. Why do you go out on the proverbial limb so far every time you make a claim?

This is why you’re an idiot!

and lets not forget the crap in flordia helped, bush shoulda had his ass packed and back on his way to texas . but a cheap trick kept his sorry ass in the wh.

shoot us now. if that is a threat, and indeed it sure sounds like one. let the tea parties put there gov checks where their mouths are… give them up, send back them back ,refuse to take . forever and always… lets see how that works out for them…

The lunatic never questions his own sanity.  Maybe Maher got hit on the head when he was in that slap fight with the tranny hooker he tried to hire.

The lunatic never questions his own sanity.  Maybe Maher got hit on the head when he was in that slap fight with the tranny hooker he tried to hire.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/148841/Tea-Party-Supporters-Oppose-Debt-Agreement.aspx
Specifically the last question on this August 2nd, 2011 Gallup poll, which is located at the bottom of the above link:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/File/148844/110804_Debt%20Agreement%20II.pdf

You’re welcome.

Mention the word “Liberal” or “Socialist” around moderate people and watch as they nearly vomit on your shoes.

Racist much? What is your problem with White people?

You mean this one, LMFAO! What a moron:

The outlook on the long-term rating is negative. We could lower the long-term rating to ‘AA’ within the next two years if we see that less reduction in spending than agreed to, higher interest rates, or new fiscal pressures during the period result in a higher general government debt trajectory than we currently assume in our base case. [...]
We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process.
http://www.standardandpoors.com/ratings/articles/en/us/?assetID=1245316529563

Awww, don’t worry. You’ll still get your checks each month…for now.

Sorry, you have to work at whatever is available.  The liberals and neocons blew our inheritance so now the people will not have a comfortable retirement.  I was against the neocon wars and all the liberal social engineering.  The die is cast, unless we can get a decent president in office to turn around the nation.

It wasn’t a threat at all, idiot. I was just saying the Tea Party is here to stay, and thank God for it. Maybe you libs will get a clue some day if you haven’t ruined the country first

NYC is powerful for historical and geographical reasons that have nothing to do with liberalism.  Wall Street collects money from virtually every family in the country.  We need to build a stock exchange in Dallas, Atlanta or Charlotte.  I don’t want my money routing through the arch fiend blue state anymore.

By the way, NYC was crumbling until a Republican mayor came in there and cleaned it up.

Perhaps you could define a single socialist piece of legislation proposed by the Dems in the past decade, or a socialist move by the executive branch since Obama took office?   He may be labeled a democrat, but the separate his weak rhetoric from his actions and you are looking at a moderate republican by any measure.  He’s to the left of GW Bush, but to the right of Eisenhower and about on par with HW Bush. 

Please feel free to cite any and all evidence that he is liberal in the slightest…

BILL MAHER IS ONE UGLY DUDE .HIS FACE ,HE LOOKS LIKE MR.MAGOO.(TAKE A GOOD LOOK UM)

Other than the fact that the downgrade report SPECIFICALLY BLAMED THE REPUBLICANS’ UNWILLINGNESS TO DISCUSS TAX INCREASES, I guess it’s okay to say that it was “almost solely due to leftist entitlement spending.”

Doomed.

Oh sure, you focus your attention on JEE-zus and ignore all the other religious icons! Typical RIGHT WING NAZI TERRORIST NUTBAG behavior!

(sorry, just getting into the spirit of things…)

And ‘health care would be free’ because doctor/nurses and drug companies would totally work for free – right? And – health care would be free, and wait times would be shorter, and doctors would spend more time and doctors would be nicer and la di freakin da.

Victor,
Why the lie of Omission about Paul O’Neill? Not only did O’Neill commission a study in 2004 that said there needed to be spending cuts as well as tax increases (Yet the Bush Tax cuts actually increased Revenue) as well as spending cuts, sound familiar? O’Neill also objected to the invasion of Iraq. he was also criticized for touring Africa with Bono while the markets tanked early in the Bush Administration. On the same day Larry Lindsey was also fired. 

Victor,
I would but three of the four are dead and not collecting their payments. The fourth is not collecting her’s either, she is collecting those of her Husband, his 50% payment was larger than her 100% payment. How about asking yourself how you are going to live on a reduction of your Social Security as it has been reduced by 30%?  http://www.socialsecurity.gov/retire2/agereduction.htm Do you not also have a right to the full amount that you paid in? Oh and how do you like the fact that you also have to wait until the age of 67? So you have to work longer, and get paid less, now that is progress. Your wife, who could normally take 50% of you full payment gets that further reduced by 35%.

Hail progress!

Well, that was pretty crazy, all right. But imaginary insane Democrats don’t come close to the lunacy exhibited by the TPers who have infiltrated and taken over the Republican Party.

Thanks for a serious response to the debate over healthcare funding. With that level of sensible engagement (which is pretty much the same across the whole right wing), we’ll have the problem solved in a jiffy.

Maybe your nasal passages drain directly into your scrotum. Maybe the Applebee’s just outside the Oak Ridge, Tennessee airport sits over a portal to another universe. Maybe I’ve got a 7-dollar bill in my wallet. Maybe Jesse James never died, just kept changing his name, and now it’s Rupert Murdoch.

How can we tell?

If the libdems were to try to “act crazy”–how would you know?

Sorry to inform you but if your father-in-law was forming unions he would not be considered ‘conservative’ today – not even close.  He would be called a ‘socialist’ or ‘communist’ and the tea party would oppose him and mock him for taking from the rich and giving to the poor.

You see today, you are either ‘one of us’ or ‘one of them.’  Either for our great country or for the dirty godless poor trying to trick and rob the rich and lucky.  No compromise.   I suggest you try it with your rich friends.  Tell them you support unions – when they realize you are not drunk or joking I think you will find your golf and tennis schedule opening up quite a bit…

Thanks for a serious response to the debate over hope and change, and bringing America together. With that level of sensible engagement (which is pretty much the same across the whole left wing), we’ll have the problem solved in a jiffy.

Bill Maher…I feel sorry for you…just as I feel fortunate that you speak for the other side and not mine.

Sent by me to Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH)  August 6, 2011:

 Dear Senator Brown:

I thank you for your recent quick response
and I appreciate the care and concern with which you perform the good job you are doing. Your efforts with respect to raising
revenues by way of the millionaires and billionaires of this country
through the introduction of your bill (S.1323) was right on!  So it was shot down??  TRY HARDER. 
This “cooler heads will prevail ” philosophy that the party adopted
throughout these proceedings against these bullies has proven to be 
(with all due respect Sir)  b***s***:  like pointing a water pistol at a
Samurai and trying not to blink.  (At least Indiana Jones had his bull
whip! )  What I mean, Sir, is the mistake the Democrats made  was EVER
going at it with the olive branch and the willingness to compromise. 
Instead, (nothing personal here Sir)  it was the party’s responsibility
to the people to go at it with the determination to win

                                                      EVERYTHING

Alas, as Nancy Pelosi said:  “Not one red cent” is what we got.  And
the President-the sacrificial lamb to free the hostages. Okay- so no
immediate catastrophe-but at what cost? I agree with Clinton-O’bama
should have gone the 14th amendment route instead. Unless he’s got
something up his sleeve- here we are. I’m still with him-don’t get me
wrong. But  I could just puke over Boehner strutting around like a
peacock now all full of himself.  Doesn’t it make you puke Senator???  I
hope so!  It should make everybody as angry as they got over the Casey Anthony verdict.  Republican ruthless tactics are nothing new; so why didn’t we BRING IT? Now look:  come November, along with other horrors, will surface, it’s rumored,  some freshman’s big idea is
to privatize our Social Security and hand it over to Wall Street. 

                                              ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? 

After what they did to our economy in “08??? Now we are to allow them to plunder what’s left of our entitlements????? OUR MONEY???
(the % is more than I pay in taxes which I haven’t minded until now
since it was supposed to be part or maybe all of my retirement!)  
While the atrocious behavior of these CEO’s, after the bailout,
included
dolling out huge bonuses to themselves, they also added insult to injury
by
refusing to turn around and loan money to the desperately flailing
millions of American people who were losing their homes, and their
jobs…living in their cars or moving in with their children.  Good
God! 

The Democratic party at least now has a little time to do
some fierce organizing. I’m not suggesting pitchforks and torches. 
Better yet we need a Davey VS Goliath type strategy sans the slingshot. 
Something a little sneakier.  I totally agree with you: the fat cats 
need to do their part to  help balance the budget by kicking in more
tax
money than they have EVER. While our country is based on capitalism and
they are entitled to the gains of their hard work so is the average Joe
entitled to the little money we’ve managed to contribute to a fund that
BELONGS TO US.  We can’t hope Sir-we have to make it happen.  Bill Gates, Warren Buffet (36 billion net),
CEO’s of the big banks, corporations and the pharmaceutical companies, THE WEALTHY ELITE, all need to do
be held accountable, instead of being rewarded with extravagant loop
holes.   It’s just insane to me that the Republicans, specifically the
tea partiers, have the nerve to blame the problem on Obama spending   
He’s only been here two years. (And oh by the way was a little busy
for a minute eliminating the biggest terrorist threat in the
world-something nobody else could seem to do)  Did everybody forget that
little detail? Hm?  9-11 anybody?

 Who’s idea was Iraq and Afghanistan? And what are we still
doing there!!!????? A lot of the guys I’ve talked to that fought in Iraq
shake their heads and say they honestly don’t know. Weapons of mass
destruction? lol.  Freedom-sure.  But who’s?  Their guys that are still
over there are doggedly clinging to the belief that it’s just and
righteous while they lay in their tents at night wondering if their
checks are going to get to their families.  That’s just CRAZY!

 Who’s idea was the unfunded 300 billion for drug
benefits for Seniors?  (or should I say BENEFITS FOR THE PHARMACEUTICAL
COMPANIES THAT FUNDED HIS CAMPAIGN)  Who
caused the crap on Wall Street that resulted in the whopping 177.5
Billion (Tarp) that was invested in big banks like Citigroup and Wells
Fargo, all the above later resulting in the 800 billion dollar
Recovery Act that Republicans are now trying to shove off on and into
the measley 1.4 T  in
NECESSARY spending directly attributed to Obama policies?

            BUSH AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY: 10
years of un-regulated, wreckless spending.    Debt limit raised 7 times
without question.  Deficit totaling                                         7 TRILLION DOLLARS

While they stand up there and mouth off about O’bama spending, they sure didn’t mind it WHEN THEY WERE THE ONES SPENDING THE MONEY DID THEY?????????????

These

guys are on some other planet Senator Brown- the Republicans and their
corporate co-horts. And their only real concern is two fold:  No revenue
from taxes on fat salaries or big business and get O’bama the hell out
of office.  And they believe now-more than ever-that they are above the
law and the government of this country. They are, for all intents and
purposes, mobsters.  The lies and rhetoric
that come out of their mouths sickens me.  I love what you’re doing, and
what you’ve been saying, so please keep it up.  And remember Sir:  we need MORE than cooler heads to prevail in November.

        we need to bring it to the game.

Thanks again for writing back and for listening!  Let’s get these guys!!!! 
Sincerely,
Adriane KesslerRegistered Voter OhioLooking to volunteer in 2012

I hear ya Harry!!  See my “editorial” to Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH)

WHAT? are you on drugs??? GET OFF THIS FORUM. (Anybody with me?)

Nice oxycon.  What shall we call YOU?  Anybody got a name for this guy????  or does oxycon per chance represent an abbreviation for say oxycodone?  That would explain the size of your brain right now.

No-not insane people – very determined people with a plan.  See my “editorial” to Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

Okay- his name is Bill Maher everybody.  And he is brilliant and factual and just get over it

Reforms the tax structure for WHO?  But don’t let the facts get in your way WORP.

Thank you RoughAcres!  Finally somebody on this forum has the damn facts.  Pay attention the rest of you !  Read my “editorial” below to Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) .  We need drastic changes.  And hell no the S&P ruling had nothing to do with anyone else but the gluttonous Republican Party.

Excuse me Worp.  Get the facts.  Standard and Poor came on CNN this morning (Aug 8) and attributed the rating directly to the Republican party’s refusal to kick in any tax revenue. 

 I think the problem underlying this whole mess self-serving GOP Greed.  Isn’t it  convenient for the GOP to be able to blame O’bama for the current market woes and lower AA ratings prior to the 2012 election?  Is it not amazing how the GOP has the Baggers  distorting  facts to insight middle class fear?  Don’t those Baggers look and ‘talk the talk’ of the common American voter?    All this rant ‘n raving for the hard-working middle class ought to bring in their big vote. Manipulation by misinformation sound familiar?  This certainly does not happen in a free democratic society.  Republicans back in the White House will ensure continued Corporate prosperity,  bulging GOP pockets,  lavish lifestyles of that !%, and a bedraggled worn down middle class.  Eventually there will be no middle class.  Like other 3rd world nations, America will consist of the poor and the very rich.  Then what? I know we are still a young country, not even 250 years old. History tells me how prone youthful unstable nations are to foreign acquisition.  (No problem for the 1%, they can jet out and reside comfortably elsewhere.) When are we going to put our emotionalism aside and think? Where is our our outrage for being used like a stupid fool?

The Pinkertons tried to assassinate my Grandfather twice for organizing for the Rail Road workers, and the anti worker thugs killed my Uncle for organizing transportation workers.  Your arguments are largely BS, if you actually studied union history, which you haven’t 

Strange that the MSM avoids replaying those videos of the Union thugs in Madison, but never hesitates with shots of tea party signs, which in some perverted message are supposed to show a proclivity for violence.Forget about Obama wanting to turn this country into the European model. Far worse, he’s already taken us down the road to Soviet style Marxism. A reading of marx and engels and an understanding of the principles of dialectical materialism will explain the takeover of industry, agriculture, health, education,  banking, etc. The assault on the Constitution through the liberal court system is destroying our constitutional guarantees. When you hear the word, proletariot, youll know it’s too late and the next step will be to change the USA into the USSR- United Socialist States Republic.

Do you even know the meaning and practice of tea-bagging? Perhaps you do, as you use the word so loosely, you seem to have actively been a present or past participant in the practice.

Never get tired of playing the race card? Do you , dude?  Unless it happens to be an African American Conservative.

Excuse me, but I was responding to the rather stupid and obnoxious post by “drennan,” which was not — as I define the term — “the debate over hope and change.”

My original post, which you have amended above, was in response to an “Abdul” post which highlighted the all-too-common ignorance and thoughtlessness that characterizes the right wing today.

You want to have a serious debate? Bring it on.

Food stamps. Welfare. Free condoms for everyone. Childcare. Medicaid. Medicare. Social Security. Unemployment benefits in perpetuity.

Even the Socilaist Party, Hugo Chavez, Castro, and the CPUSA has admitted and thrilled at our becoming a socialist state. Remember Obama and what he told Joe the Plumber?

My Irish grandmother used to say, “ya can’t smell your own stink.”. How does it feel to be a socialist? Can ya smell it?

Bring it on yourself

You hit the nail right on the head.  But was long as you have corporate propaganda being injected into the veins of about 1/3 of the population by Fox, Rush & Co. you’re going to have a frighteningly misinformed populous, and the chickens will continue rooting for Col. Sanders.

With the exception of extending unemployment benefits, none of these are legislation that was proposed by Congress in the past 10 years, which was what I was asking anyone to cite.    Most of these are programs that came into being between the late 30s and late 60s.   

Also, if by any chance your ID means you are affiliated the NYFD, would you wish that to be privatized?  How does it feel to be a socialist?

Outlaw the T-Party, send their Reps to Gitmo
Since the T-Party has no problem taking down the US economy along with the world economy it is time to see the danger to America in these actions.  By Executive order and Homeland Security outlaw actions leading to taking the economy hostage, arrest Reps in Congress for their actions, outlaw proponents of T-Party.

Outlaw the T-Party, Send their reps to Gitmo

Since the T-Party has no problem taking down the US economy along with the world economy it is time to see the danger to America in these actions.  By Executive order and Homeland Security outlaw actions leading to taking the economy hostage, arrest Reps in Congress for their actions, outlaw proponents of T-Party.

Outlaw the T-Party, Send their reps to Gitmo

Since the T-Party has no problem taking down the US economy along with the world economy it is time to see the danger to America in these actions.  By Executive order and Homeland Security outlaw actions leading to taking the economy hostage, arrest Reps in Congress for their actions, outlaw proponents of T-Party.

Absolutely hilarious and totally true, funny enough some dude published a website on thedonnerparty.us exactly addressing what Maher said here.

I have been to Guantanamo Bay with the Navy and the Tparty represents my values.  You probably haven’t even kept a job for 10 years.  You punks get all your ideas from the left controlled media and your minimum welfare monthly allotment (since you don’t have to work for your high and your Mom still cooks for you) demands you to let them do your thinking.  Fifty years ago you would have had to work because freeloading wasn’t subsidized by the Dems.  It is so easy to open your mouth….

You should have worked for Göbbels.