But if they were FOX New-sponsored conservative protestors, Hannity would be gushing, saying “these brave people want to speak and all the lib’rul media does is mock them.”
Rightwing media is so hackneyed.

Well, there you have it folks, Fox News doing the reporting that the liberal media is afraid to touch. Afraid of who the left really represents??? Who is surprised with the left wing media, and that communism, socialism and anti-American is the left wing, baby!

So, Your on the side of Wall Street? Day trader?

Awww cute, how does it feel to be a puppet for the extremely wealthy like the rest of your fellow Baggers?

COMMUNISM SOCIALISM ANTI AMERICANISM!!!!!!

I’d rather see silly protesters condemning the financial institutions that crashed this economy than idiot teabag-wearing protesters defending them.

A lot like a Tea party rally without the anger.

derpty derp communism derpty derp socialism
That’s really the only argument conservatives have, when it comes to defending Wall Street crooks.

Reporter likes building that smells like horseshit instead.

also missing: racist Obama-as witch doctor signs, crackpot birther conspiracies, Dick Armey and Koch-funded buses, lots of misspelled signs, people on medicaid-funded disability scooters railing against government spending, and a lot of stinky aging Boomer old man smell.

It’s nice that Wall Street and the Banks have their own cable news channel.
Roger Ailes sure wasn’t kidding when he said “We ARE the balance”.

Most of them looked like a bunch of stoners who have no job and limited education.

There was a picture of one of their kind on another site holding a Coke and railing against capitalism. Hilarious.

What cave have you been in? ABC, All Jazeera-English, BBC, CBS, CNN, CNN International, MSNBC, NBC, NPR, PBS have all been covering this. And, when did FOX “News” cover news? When did Bill-o and O’Hannity become newsmen. You’re as off as mutton stew in a cupboard for over a week.

No surprises here.

Didn’t know you were such a big fan of crony capitalism

Why, I didn’t know they sent reporters down to expose the red loving anti-Americans there. Please show me your links, weal woyal empowah. Hey empowah, how do you like all the communist lovers on your side of the fence? Do you have enough mutton stew for everyone?

Well I knew the left was into communism. Didn’t you? But I do love capitalism. I don’t get where I ever said I was into crony capitalism. Can you show me?

Bill-O’Reilly is not a news show. But Fox News plays a clip on their show and just gush about it. I never saw NBC news do this with Countdown(past),Rachael Maddow or Ed Shultz. Bill-O(Prounoced bell-ow) sent his crackerjack producer/reporter out there to do a hit job. It’s fairly easy to walk into a crowd of thousands and find a few low hanging fruit to pick to do an interveiw.Then edit is in a way to make people look real foolish. The magic of production.

At a Wall Street protest they expose their breasts, at a Teabagger Rally they expose their guns.

Prolly why the Left is a bit less angry.

YES

obama is the biggest fan of crony capitalism. Solyndra anyone?

The T.E.A. party does not defend these jerks.   Taxed Enough Already  =T.E.A. party

Yeah man, we gotta bring attention to corporate influence man, and make em share their money bro so we can all live in prosperity where I never have to clean up my room, or get yelled at by my dad again… 

Well with all the anti-American, anti-wealth communists, who wants to do business in America again??? Who is sending businesses over seas? Wow.

And vise versa. Same thing on the left in regards to right wing protestors while praising them on the left. Hannity doesn’t even seem to care to make himself look less like a hypocrite when it comes to protestors. He just parades it. Partisans are incapable of reason and consistency, and hypocrisy strides.

Watch the news, NEWS, N E W S yourself, you lazy, free-loading cretin. Don’t expect to be anything but ignorant if you watch FOX “News”.

Oh, they don’t?
I suggest you read this thread.

Also, the Tea Party was originally started by the former vice president for institutional trading and hedge fund account for futures-related products, Rick Santelli.
lol…he is your “founding father”.

Then, I’ll go to a Wall Street protest any day. Principles and breasts! What a combination!

Destroy capitalism !!  Tax the rich !!  errr wait a minute ?

No need to gush for people that have no clue why they’re protesting. All they learned from their cowardly parents was how much they’re Vietnam protesting accomplished while they protested their drafted  classmates. The lib’rul media has less of a clue.
Welcome President Teabagger, January 20, 2013

Jesse Watters is pure sleaze and doesn’t have an ethical bone in his body.

Here:

http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

Robert still in a tizzy over King Obama killing an American citizen with no one reading the terrorist his rights and getting him a lawyer and a cup of hot chocolate .

” SHAME ON YOU ALL !!!” says the confused old coot .

Robert and BFD pretending to be interested in chicks .

No need to hide , boys . It’s the nineties , you see .

When these protesters of Wall St and Capitalism give up their blackberrys and Facebook and twitter and their cars and jobs (if they have any) And camp out there sans any technology, THAN they can be taken serious. But cmon close Wall St for 1 week and watch the economy crumble.. They should be in Washington protesting the Govt that was in cahoots when all this happened

Robert once known as the Wizard of Wall Street .

Kind of .

Grand Wizard Robert has protested in NY before , with his old classmate Robert Byrd at the Great Klan Rally Against Miscegenation in ’43 .

I know the left loves to ridicule people who disagree with them, but I just don’t like it. Some of those people are dumb, some are just naive, some are college unergrads with heads filled with righteous indigation at the unfairness in the world, and that’s fine because their instincts are right. Our country IS run by powerful, monied interests. We don’t need a revolution, we just need people in power who are more interested in the interests of the nation than their own and other members of their group.

Progressivism. It’s like cancer, only worse.

Maybe I’m missing something here but who got their asses handed to them in the 2010 elections?  Seriously, which party suffered a histortic loss that has not been seen since 1948?  We had to lectured about how elections had consequences when the DNC took over in 2008…what is exactly going on now?

Your naive comments are so laughable and will literally become irrelevant once the party you support gets completely tossed out in 2012.

Can you show us where Wall Street touched you, Bob?

Keep your shirt on, Kook.

…because he asks Liberals to speak on tv and show just how stupid they actually are.

Who are you kidding, the low hanging fruit fell off the tree quite some time ago and was actually all over the ground. Totally easy to find it since the whole place was covered with it.

x2  Couldn’t have been said any better.

This is why FOX crushes the the wanna-be’s!

Japan had limits on the % differential between top mgmt & avg. income of overall workforce.
But the problem is Wall Street, and the direction and effect of where and why they’re allocating capital resources.

I guess we can all go home and forget about the election.You seem so sure. I beg your pardon,But as the old saying goes you better not count your chickens before they hatch.

Do you believe everything you read on the MM sites?

Good luck with that! Gambling is so rewarding. Everyone should do it.

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Ron Paul and his supporters differ with you, they claim it began in 2007, inspired by Paul.

Just in case you just don’t get it….  for many conservatives there is one thing that they find even more distasteful than Obama’s handling of the economy, and that would be the banks…  Now we on the other hand understand the role that these banks play in our economy and the fact that we can’t just simply regulate them to death as that would tighten the money markets as we have already seen recently in the economy…  

I think that your side’s position is well represented by those occupying Wall Street as your side just seems to think we can take all that Wall Street money and the economy won’t miss it..  Well it just doesn’t work that way.  But these folks interviewed on both of these two shows hardly seem to have views any different than many of the progressives who post here…

No real ideas..  just gives us money and a life…  Good luck with that!

What an unbelievable fail for the left. This thing was to bring in tens
of thousands? Um, okay. They fail so hard we’re now reading that the
SEIU has to bus in union support. How embarrassing for the left. Then
again, they should be used to it. They’re an appetizer of fail with an
entree of fail, smothered in fail with generous side of fail. Guess
what’s for dessert??

Gutfeld said it best — some make and these folks want to take.

What a bunch of degenerate smelly defective losers.

You have been there during the protest?

It appears to be malignant and has no compunction about killing the host.

You, of course, can say this since you’ve no doubt taken a formal survey of the ages of all the protesters and know all of their parents personally.
Hey – you know what would be really cowardly? If their parents were draft dodgers in Vietnam, like Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, Dick Armey, George Will, Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Michael “Savage” Weiner, etc

Of course, conservatives loved Blackwater and Haliburton for doing far worse. FOX News wouldn’t touch those stories. And Glenn Beck actually sold “I love Haliburton” shirts on his website.

Fair point – but it’s hard not to mock rightwing protesters when they carry signs that read “Keep the government out of my Medicare.”

 Hate to burst your bubble. but Obama currently leads all of the Republican clown car candidates.

 Crowds still outnumber all the teabagger rallies your lib’rul media covered endlessly.

Fox News is such filth, it’s unbelievable.

Beck’s? I think not, crackpipe.

Nice try though, fail boy.

Also, nice comparison. Hard working taxpayers vs. hippie pigfilth criminal vermin.

Bob…you are delusional but obviously a proud member of the idiot left that thinks 0bama has a chance to turn around his epic failure.  I applaud your conviction and encourage you to continue convincing yourself that you have chance.  Still have 13 months but it doesn’t matter what candidate comes out of the GOP primary…it’s going to be a historic beat down for your buddy. 

At least someone in your party can accurately interpret the polls: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/james-carville-who-cares-if-people-like-dems-more-than-gop-if-we-keep-losing-elections/

That the same wall street that obama takes millions from in campaign donations? The same wall street he invites to the white house?

By 1% give or take? ROFLMFAO!!!!

You don’t see MSNBC sending film crews to Tea Party rallies, now do you? Liberals would rather distort the Tea Party and call them racist rather than actually first hand attend one of their functions. 

The same Wall Street that donated MILLIONS of $$$ to the Obama Campaign… and then YOU voted for Obama.

So in effect, YOU are supporting the interests of Wall Street….

Are we supposed to take you seriously when you say something thing like “FOX News-sponsored conservative protestors”?. Starting out with a false premise like that discounts what you say thereafter.

Are the FOX anchors supposed to get behind the protesters and promote an incoherent message? It looked to me like they gave the Occupy Wall Street crowd a pretty fair shake despite the protesters inability to articulate precisely why they are there.
Now, if the protesters were to be specific about exactly which Wall Street entities are engaging in crony capitalism (different from honest capitalism) and how they are hurting the economy and the little guy, I might even support them. As it is, it seems like most of them are just against “Wall Street” and capitalism as a whole. I can’t get behind that.
Yes, there are people on Wall Street robbing the country and hurting our growth. Let’s go after them with some serious in-depth investigations. Let us also expand those investigations to the politicians and take them all down together. However, let’s not demonize honest capitalism in the process.

I remember when keith olbermann was screaming “racist tea party” every night before he got fired so he was actually formally invited to attend a tea party rally and he didn’t have the balls to show up. COWARD!

“Are the FOX anchors supposed to get behind the protesters and promote an incoherent message?”

MSNBC does. It’s about all they’ve been talking about all week. It’s one thing to report it, it’s another thing for a news network (alleged) to gush over it 24/7. It’s the same thing they did when they had the protestors in Wisconsin and the hosts all broadcasted live from Madison. I’m sure Ed and the rest will be on site soon on Wall and Broad.

the problem might be that about 15 people usually show up to the more recent Tea Party rallies…

It’s not an US vs Them thing. Or at least it shouldn’t be. I have no specific love for Wall Street. I belong to a union and am lucky if I pull in 55K a year, but I have no love for people trying to divide the country with hatred based on the size of someone’s bank account either.

Why would he be a hypocrite? He is a conservative TV pundit – that is exactly who he was when he  approached the protestors. I wouldn’t be surprised if many didn’t even know who he was or care.

Anybody catch Watters World on BOR’s show the other night? Some of these people are absolutely clueless. One lady barely out of her teens and dressed up like a Native American, advocated replacing capitalism with communism. And they say the tea partiers are crazyy. LOL.

Greed. Just like Micheal Douglas said in the movie. “Wall Street is driven by greed”

I don’t think MSNBC is doing them any favors or their message would be more defined by now.
Another thing that would probably help them out is if they were to demand that Michael Moore no longer speak on their behalf. That kind of doomed them from the start.

Well it is early yet, but after they leave let’s see how trash/filth is left behind. Plus I am pretty sure none of these people know how to make a sign that isn’t printed and distributed for them. You are very disrespectful to the elderly, they should rail against irresponsible government spending- everyone should.

 a two-week old article about PUMA Carville which doesn’t cite a single head-to-head poll?

… or come home to roost.

and despite all the attention the GOP gets for their primary, no one likes them. Despite the horrid economy, your side is still losing. Rick Perry will never be president. ditto for Romney.

 and the 1 million in NYC who protested the Iraq war dwarfed all of these events.

Yeah, because they are all unemployed with nothing better to do.

lol, berlin heise

I don’t disagree, but its not like there isn’t a fair share of sillyness in protestors evident here.

In all fairness, Jeff, I went to a T-Partee Terrorist Konklave, and the odor was terrible.

Are you referring to Sean Hannity, or the interviewer? I was referring to Hannity. People like him and his counterparts on the left are hypocrites in how they mock and demonize protestors that they disagree with, while openly loving those they agree with while complaining about others mocking them.

The protesters they showed seemed to know who he was, and actually like him. Which was interesting in itself.

You are an absolute flog. well i just read your name and saw you support rick perry so i’m not surprised. The protests will grow and you will be on the wrong side of history. that i am sure off. But keep saying its a fail of the left you have absolutely no clue, you people are seriously beyond help. There are bigger things in life than left wing and right wing politics. I dont know how many times i have said it is not a left vs right issue. However, when you get all your information from fox i understand you may be a little less informed or not have a complete balanced view. so for that i do forgive you. 

Your country is stuffed, do you realise that? you are destroying your middle class? You have millions unemployed and living in poverty. Its laughable how much you pay your minimum wage workers (one of my first part time jobs when i finished school i was earning $20/h. Having higher wages and strong middle class is what makes a thriving economy). You can’t sit their and tell me your republicrat corporatism has worked. Just admit it, your politicans have failed, your systems have failed. why should people accept being kept down with no opportunity when it was your bankers that put you there? But the tea party are patriotic americans who know whats best (really have to strop confusing patriotism with nationalism) Who knows maybe Rick Perry can save you just like jesus did? I always did like cinderella, it was a good fairy tale. 

Hi ya Surfergirl. I guess you must be with those other group on part of the beach. just kidding. Long boarder myself You?

amazing….not one point in your answer…..just insults

Illusion is the first of all pleasures.-Oscar Wilde

yeah, as silly as white men trying to dance…..

but AT LEAST they’re trying.  

unlike you.  

“I, first, would allow the guilty bankers to pay back anything over $100
million (in) personal wealth, because I believe in the maximum wealth
of $100 million. If they’re unable to live on that amount, they should
go to re-education camps. And if that doesn’t work, they should be
beheaded.” – Roseann Barr

This isn’t a dating site, sicko.

Got it- I agree with you, understood your comment wrong. 

“Horrid economy?” Well, if you ask the phony king he’ll tell ya it’s booming! Booming, I tell you!

Duh! That’s why cities like Las Vegas thrive.

i’m very satisfied and confident there is a good mix of both in there.

Thou shalt not use a liberals own words against them. 

“massive tax hikes on successful people”?  

Say, where are all those war “protesters?” LOL!

and what system does your country use?

btw, jesse waters is a f*cking knuckle-dragging anti-intellectual

Notice how “bob” was caught in a lie and he changes the subject? POS.

See how delusional you are?  Let’s try this:

Obama is underwater in NJ, NY, CT, OH, PA and CA
Record 45.8 million on food stamps
Worst Dow Jones quarter since 2009
Solyndra
Record 1 out of 6 now in poverty
Zero jobs created in Aug 2011
$4.14 trilion of new debt in only 2.68 years
Fast and Furious
9.1% unemployment
Federal Government borrows $0.40 for every dollar it spends

Finally there is this: http://today.yougov.com/news/2011/09/23/problems-president-americans-give-him-lowest-appro/

By the time the election comes around in 2012, every single point above will become increasingly worse…your unemployed alcoholic neighbor with the cocaine problem would have a better chance of becoming president before anyone would vote 0bama back in. 

0bama is and will be considered an epic failure.

the hannity subtitle is:  ”lunatics of the left”

“these people have no purpose in life”?

“that man is full or heroin”?

“it smells like patchouli and urine”?

Seething with rage, as always.  You and Roseann should get together.  You’d have lots to talk about, I’m sure.

obama’s rhetoric is divisive?

and yet he extended the tax breaks, the wars, and hired the wall street insiders to advise him

yeah, OH SO DIVISIVE kimberly!!

Punish your enemies.

If they bring a knife, you bring a gun.

You can come, but you have to sit in the back of the bus.

similar system but a stronger middle class. less debt, banks are healthy, cost of living is way too high though, peopel are starting to find it tough. we have our problems but people can admit it and know that both sides of politics left and right useless and massive changes are needed. big goverment vs small goverment, republican vs democrat is bullsh!t you need a bigger change, this protest can be the start. if america takes the lead the world will follow. 

they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy towards
people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade
sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.’

And Fox News as well.

From Dreams of My Father: ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the
age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was
ingratiating myself to whites.’

From Dreams of My Father: ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’

From Dreams of My Father: ‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’

and that country would be?

Can’t argue with reason.

What? Was that supposed to be a racial insult? Try writing in complete sentences buddy. Also please include something of substance when replying to me. I don’t have the time to decipher asinine rubbish. Thanks.

Yes, it is well documented how Obama pits Americans against one another. If he isn’t the most divisive, he’s at least in the top three. It is ridiculous to argue otherwise.
Yes, it is class warfare and that has been his brand of politics ever since he got into the game.

Far right wing extremists such are yourself are the only ones using the term “king” or “majesty” or “messiah”

why is that?

as the world can see, GlovesDonahue lives in the past.

That would explain why all of his ideas and mental thinking are from the 1400s.

People who talk about communism on web forums are far right wing loons.

they aren’t speaking out against them either.

Fedup in Florida is too stupid to mention that not everyone reads media matters. There are other websites out there.

LOLZ

Fedup in Flordia is stupid like a rock.

clearly, you have the time….

GlovesDonahue is a closet c*cksucker.

that explains his anti homosexuality rhetoric.

I think Glovesdonahue sucks off Bachmann’s husband.
whoislloydc@gmail:disqus .com

fearmongering is terrorism

are you a terrorist? or a poosey?

whoislloydc@gmail:disqus .com

that was “reporting”?

i remember guilfoyle saying “these people have purpose in life”

that’s “reporting”?

sorry, have “no purpose”

then where is the tea party?

I stumbled on to this conversation between DARLADOON and MICHELLE.

My question to DARLA is: IF, you had the opportunity, would you be at Wall Street, right now, mingling, rubbing shoulders with that, um, er, collection of, um, ‘sedentary intellectuals’?

Thats it!  ”Sedentary intellectuals.”  Kind of like like “cool headed logicians?” (Trivia–Who wrote that phrase?)

Purveyor of Rhetoric

michelle–

take a vacation, smoke some herb….

yeah, tax increases are OH SO divisive that 80% of americans and 66% of republicans
want them!

that’s actually 100% accurate

I’m not the one seething with rage, sweetie.  Take your own advice.

maybe we should follow how our great liberal president FDR fixed the depression, get in a two-front war, raise taxes, and get 400,000 americans killed

You’re right Bob I’ll bet there are 5% more people in the Occupy Wall Street rally than there were at the Quincy Illinois Tea Party Rally.

Australia see we are not so different from you.

without FDR every 65+ person you know in ohio would be living in poverty

Fact: Did you wear your best communist anti-American
shirt of choice! The stink was you!

i’m baffled by your non-question

really, you think that…..so no means testing for social security……and that excuses getting 400,000 americans killed wow

Fact: 15 Americans Tea Party rally trump all the ass
smell shown on the NY videos shown above wanting a new Government handout society.
Just goes to show what losers liberals are!

Ahh yes, random racism from our resident moonbat. I don’t suppose any of you weak kneed white guilt ridden liberals would like to call out this bit of racism from one of your fellow socialists?

i would really like to know how this is racist, dude

i mean, are you *really* that sensitive?

if you noticed, i was actually *defending* white guys who can’t dance….

you mean that $45 billion handout that chase manhattan got?

I want to know more about the blond Indian.  She was pretty hot.

fox news didn’t sponsor the tea party?!?!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

So you get your political opinions from Hollywood? Hah!

nice to see you’re on goldman sachs’ side

Fact: At least he thinks and has one up on you knuckle dragger!

RABBLE RABBLE TEABAGGERS

RABBLE RABBLE HANNITY SUCKS

RABBLE RABBLE I’M NOT A SOCIALIST OR A COMMUNIST, I JUST HATE CAPITALISM. WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING ME A SOCIALIST?!?!!?!? I HATE CAPITALISM, BUT THAT DOESN’T MAKE ME A SOCIALIST OR A COMMUNIST. RABBLE RABBLE

RABBLE RABBLE TEAR DOWN WALL STREET. I WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO RUN EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES. RABBLE RABBLE

i agree, thanks for posting

Fact: People who defend liberal’s actions are left wing lunatics!

You agree rich people who won’t hand over their money should be beheaded?!  WOW, I thought you would agreed, but I didn’t think you’d actually say it out loud.

The left, ladies and gentS!!

nice to see you’d rather millions of senior citizens navigate the ridiculously 
expensive private healthcare market on their own, while they lose
their income and watch their bodies/minds start to decay.

yeah, that’s REALLY american!

cjdohio1, our resident authoritarian.  

Ya, because there’s nothing like a set of flabby, unwashed hippy tits.

Also, what kind of pussy whines about guns? I wish I could punch you in the nose for being such a limp wristed queen.

Howdy Emp. Not enough patchouli and herb for ya?

yeah, progressivism brought the weekend, the 40 hour work week, and sick time

what a cancer!

Fact: Should be whoiswacko@gmail:disqus.cuminmouth for loser C

Darla,
How is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you just admitted you think the rich who refuse to fork over their assets should be imprisoned and then beheaded?

Principles? you idiots have principles? Hah. Your “principles” fluctuate based on nothing more than an R or a D on a person’s jersey.

“All that glitters is not gold”  LOL  You’d probably choke her to death half way through the first date!  LOL

Purveyor

michelle–

is there ANY tax increase with which you would agree?

any?

or would you rather cut social security and medicare and education?

in effect, a tax INCREASE on the middle class?

which side ARE you on, michelle?

You could be non-questioned by my baffle?

yeah, you’re just a calm, warm, kind, compassionate kind of gal……lol

Nice…

another liberal idiot condemning “anti homosexual” rhetoric by using anti homosexual rhetoric.

It would be funny if you idiots were caught violating your own principles from one comment thread to the next, but consistently you can’t even move on to the next empty headed talking point before you completely buttfuck your own credibility.

Day Walker?

We already know that gingers have no souls but you might want to bone up on your South Park before you (oh so twee) throw around terms that you don’t understand.

I don’t think she’s interested in you, shit for brains.

Fact: It sux to see liberals that have no idea why they are liberal!

I’m on the side that doesn’t want to behead someone just because they have money.  You are despicable. 

apples and oranges, two totally different countries joined by a common language

apples and oranges, two totally different countries joined by a common language

Says the person who wants to behead those who refuse to hand over their money.

Says the person who wants to behead those who refuse to hand over their money.

well darla when you start to just make shit up or deal in absolutes…..thats what happens

Do you have any evidence of freeloading?

Please tell.

Or not.  Baseless allegations seem to be your forte. Unfathomable stupidity runs a close second.

Do you have any evidence of freeloading?

Please tell.

Or not.  Baseless allegations seem to be your forte. Unfathomable stupidity runs a close second.

and good to see you think its ok to get 400,000 americans killed

and good to see you think its ok to get 400,000 americans killed

Fact: mmm mmmm mmmmm Obama!

Fact: mmm mmmm mmmmm Obama!

Can I shave your poosey, coward with no balls

Can I shave your poosey, coward with no balls

and by the way FDR had nothing to do with seniors healthcare

right, obama the redistributive marxist who just loves the banks

(misses point AGAIN)

michelle,  i’ve met a lot of people on blogs, but i just have to admit:

you are, by far, the most exasperating and ignorant of them all

yeah, i totally want to behead people, michelle….

totally, that’s my MAIN mission in life.  

haha

serious, can you re-ask the question?

The word(s) “axiom” and “axiomatic” come to mind, regarding our President’s “rhetoric.”

Is Obama’s rhetoric divisive?  Is the Pope Catholic?  Both questions are, or have become, axiom. (“a maxim widely accepted on it’s intrinsic merit”)

Then again, one could argue that Socialist/Liberals deny such, hence, is axiomatic…  Hmm, maybe we discuss “cognitive dissonance?”  I used to believe that Socialists had to be experiencing at least nominal “dissonance,” at this stage in Obama’s Presidency?  However, the Liberal ability to self deceive or deny reality, is much greater than I once thought.  

Which begs the question(s): Is National self deceit a positive characteristic?  For instance–Muslims are really swell, America is bankrupt, so we should spend our way out of financial arrears, and successful people are BAD people!  And so on…

And you claim to be “baffled” DARLA?  LOL  I am “baffled” just thinking about how Liberals attempt to think!

Purveyor

I don’t know why I continue to respond to you. As soon as I do, you divert off on to another tangent or misdirect to a false comparison. It’s your SOP and I should have learned better by now. To borrow an expression, it’s like nailing jello to the wall.
Don’t be too confident when a commenter quits the argument. You haven’t won, they just realize the futility in arguing with someone who can’t accept reason.

yeah statistics ARE “absolute”:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3260

Fact: Good thing that there are still a few minority with educated minds that believe that if you have a spending problem quit spending!

Would you like to be there, at the  Wall Street Protest, with the, um, ecclectic crew?  (“sedentary intellectuals”)

Also, my trivia question:  who wrote the phrase “cool minded logicians?”  I am not sure why I thought of such, just popped into my head, like everything else!  LOL

Purveyor

I’m ignorant?  I’m not the one advocating murder.  How about this Darla, stop believing that you are owed something.  Do for yourself.   Stop feeling entitled.

yeah darla, your link said everyone 65+ would be living in poverty……..lol, maybe you should read it again

Touche’

You just questioned him asking if he could be non-questioned by the baffle but that in itself was a question and I am baffled at that.

Try and wrap your head around that Purveyor!

so people who work hard and pay their taxes and play by the rules…..

…….are owed nothing, should retire without any dignity, and die penniless?

nice to see how much you love the banks, the well-to-do, and the politicians
who serve them so well.

michelle, you’re a disgusting, half-witted, evil b*tch

darla, and if you want all the social safety nets like other countries you will also have to raise taxes on the middle class…..like they have to pay there

moron–

you said that obama engages in class warfare.

well, 66% of republicans want obama TO DO JUST THAT

don’t you understand?

Another ‘sedentary intellectual’ Ted (confusing last name) Unabomber

yeah, it’s only a spending problem….

we don’t have a revenue problem or anything

taxes UNDER REAGAN were higher than they are now….

but we only have a spending problem. lol..

i would like to be there…..but i was actually….

we had our own protests in san francisco

actually, we have our own protests every day in san francisco…..

purveyor–

give me a specific example of how obama’s rhetoric is divisive;

also, please describe which groups of people are being divided by said rhetoric.

You forgot to call CJDOHIO1 a “capitalist running dog lackey?”  Then you raise your arm and make a fist, swearing allegiance to Mao!

Grotesque over simplifications like you just wrote leave YOU, no where.  It is like listening to Farrakhan or Sharpton, its not the destination, rather, is the journey, just keeping white America off balance or in this case, scaring geriatrics.

There are much better and viable solutions, other than to Socialize America?  I agree with you that repair is needed, but, not dismantling the entire system.

Purveyor
 

yes he did

first, you deny the impact social security has had, and then you make
a quantum leap and admit that it actually did, but dispute at what age….

thanks for ultimately agreeing with me….

purveyor

i’m beginning to see early stages of dementia

You really should see someone about that rage problem, Darla.  It’s quite ugly.

I never liked you!   LOL  Well done!

As you can see, I acquired my Fathers sense of humor.  Apparently, you may have a bit of  your Fathers humor in you too?

Purveyor

“The Occupy Wall Street protests have grown every day since they began two weeks ago. In the past 24 hours, they have expanded to Chicago, Boston, Los Angeles, and other major cities as thousands have gathered to demandeconomic justice and an end to big bank dominated politics. But according to a top Wall Street reporter at the New York Times, the protests don’t appear to really exist — and if they do exist, perhaps only 80 people have shown up.
Speaking on CNBC’s Squawk Box program yesterday, Andrew Ross Sorkin, a financial columnist and editor of the New York Times’ Dealbook blog, a special business section devoted to covering Wall Street, condescendingly dismissed the protests:
SORKIN: Do we think about the–Not to be so America-centric, but do we think that the whole Wall Street protest is overdone, real, not real? Were there really a lot of people down there? Were there a lot? I could never tell.COHOST: Well uh they arrested 80 people. Right?SORKIN: Right. But I dont know if that was like all 80 of them.
Watch it:

For the record, thousands have demonstrated against Wall Street and the numbers are growing.
A reader of the Dealbook might reach the same conclusion as Sorkin, that the protests are close to nonexistent. A search of his website reveals a single two sentence mention of them on September 20. In sharp contrast with Sorkin’s snide coverage of the protests, the regular news section of the New York Times has much more thoughtful coverage. New York Times reporters N. R. Kleinfield and Cara Buckley have a piece in the A1 section of the newspaper today that includes interviews with the protesters and a look back on how the effort was organized.
Sorkin, the author of “Too Big To Fail,” has faced scrutiny over the years for his cozy relationship with powerful hedge fund managers and big bank executives. Media reporter Gabriel Sherman covered Sorkin’s sometimes “fawning quality” for powerful financial titans:
While he has written critically about the financial mandarins he covers, a fawning quality can ooze into his prose that some other Timespeople find unbecoming. “Over at the power table is Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs, or should I call you the man who can do no wrong?” (December 30, 2007) … “Trying to defend Stephen A. Schwarzman, Wall Street’s whipping boy of the moment, seems like a lose-lose proposition … But hey, somebody has got to go to bat for Mr. Schwarzman. Might as well be me” (July 29, 2007) … Or the second time the word subprime appears in his column, two months before Bear Stearns blew up, when credit and real-estate markets had already begun their steep nosedive. “I know many of you aren’t in a party mood,” Sorkin wrote. “Things were going great until summer, when the subprime mortgage thing really took us down a notch—and ruined more than a few golf games.”
Indeed, the Dealbook has made a habit of defending the banks. The Dealbookdismissed perhaps the biggest bank scandal this year, the revelation by a whistleblower alleging that revolving door officials at the Securities and Exchange Commission had illegally deleted thousands of documents relating to financial fraud investigations, including cases probing Bernie Madoff and Goldman Sachs. The Dealbook also mocked the ThinkProgress scoop revealing that a Goldman Sachs lobbying official had burrowed into the House Oversight Committee and has led efforts to stop regulators from imposing new rules on big banks (including Goldman Sachs). A Dealbook reporter scoffed, writing that the story “isn’t so scandalous after all.”
According to New York Magazine, Sorkin is one of the highest paid reporters at the New York Times and “earns $250,000, including a bonus that is based, in part, on the financial performance of the various DealBook properties.” As Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi has reported, Sorkin’s Dealbook division at the New York Times was launched using an unorthodox sponsorship deal with Barclays Capital, Goldman Sachs, Sotheby’s, and Tata Consulting Service.”

Kacynski…Well done.  Right now Ted is three floors underground in Florence Colorado, spending his days with some of the most evil people on the planet.

deny what? your absolutes…of course…..see there is no middle ground with you, and explain what healthcare laws FDR passed for seniors

to people sneering at the protestors—

can you envision ANY revenue increases from hedge fund managers?

what about a financial transactions tax?  too extreme?

if you don’t favor any revenue increases, then logically you support a tax
increase on the working class.  

and you’re the *real* patriotic americans, lol

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/theres-been-class-warfare-for-the-last-20-years-and-my-class-has-won/2011/03/03/gIQApaFbAL_blog.html

“dismantling the entire system”  =  ”a 4% tax increase on millionaires”

yeah, mao would really love a tax structure more lenient than REAGAN!

lol

could you expand on that? joined by a common language? that’s it? Jesus!

social security is ostensibly a solution to seniors’ health care needs in retirement

that goes without saying….

Behead the rich!

i don’t mind a mild tax increase on the middle class (including myself)

(NY Post)
— A horde of Wall Street demonstrators shut down the Brooklyn Bridge
for 2 1/2 hours this afternoon, halting traffic and clashing as cops
arrested as many as 700 on the famed span’s roadway.About 100
cars were left stranded as the loud, angry crowd covered the crossing
from end to end in an inflamed day of demonstrations against high
unemployment, bank bailouts and financial pain for the masses.One irate driver, a Ground Zero construction worker, blasted the pedestrians.“I
work my ass off all day, and these goddamned hippies close down the
Brooklyn Bridge so I can’t get home?” he said. “This ain’t right!”…Embattled Congressman Charlie Rangel tried to lend his support but was chased away by a heckler.Rangel had begun an informal speech to the crowd when a man started taunting him, and then coming towards him, witnesses said.City Councilman Charles Barron (D-Brooklyn) was standing nearby as the incident unfolded.“Charlie
was saying how they need to have more people down here to support this.
That’s why he was there,” Barron told The Post. “This heckler came out
of the crowd and went after him.”As Rangel, who was unhurt,
backed away from the pushy protestor the crowd came to his rescue,
swamping the heckler and chanting in response: “Everyone has the right
to speak.”

I already gave you several.

When he talks about groups of people being bitter and clinging to their guns and religion, you don’t find that divisive?

When he calls political opponents enemies, you don’t think that’s divisive?

well with that logic it also helped with food, a new radio, a new couch, heating bill, pet food…..wow amazing leaps you make

Who knows with Hannity. Half the time he claims to just be a pundit, then when called on something, he tries to laughably claim he’s a journalist:
 http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2008/10/hannity-gets-punked-claims-hes.html

and glad you admitted your statement that everyone 65+ would live in poverty if not for FDR was a lie

 says the party that hangs on Orly Taitz’s every Birther word.

didnt mean to offend, but different forms of governments….i believe you are good people, but hell we dont even drive on the same side of the road lol

WE are being divided right and left, as Americans.  Then, by way of “factions,” are we further divided.  The federalist papers warned us of the danger of splintering America.  There are many, many factions in America, if we fall apart, the great “experiment will never be put back together.  (Humpty Dumpty?)

Philosophically speaking, America is now engaged in a “great Civil War.”  Not of combat, but of philosophy, WHO ARE WE AS A NATION, and AS A PEOPLE?  Are we the to re-define ourselves as the children of Jefferson, Washington and Madison, or are we to become the spawn of Marx, Lenin and Mao?  (I write this without hyperbole.)

Half the Nation desires retaining Capitalism and all the rewards and warts that accompany such.  The other half the Country wants Socialism and/or greater Governmental participation in our daily lives.

DARLA, I am a Philosopher, I try visualize issues at their core and America can tolerate a great deal of “diversity,” however, NOT at the expense of our commonality.  I pose a philosophy of “neutral principle.”  on a personal, legal and Governmental level.  Ergo, if you and I can’t see, notice, or comprehend the philosophical disruption(s) in America, today, how can we negotiate the details?

As the King of Hearts said to Alice:  ”Begin at the beginning.”  Defining our philosophy is our “beginning”

Purveyor

OCCUPY WALL STREET: http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

Is that all you really want DARLA, a 4% tax increase on millionaires? You are concerned about the guns I own, the books I read, the pictures that give pleasure to my eye.

MY food, my children, my sex, (as long as its aberrant) Oh, you want way more than 4% don’t you DARLA?

You know the truth, the reality, whats good for me, there is no God and I better well like it! Right DARLA? The problem is, there is some of this emanating from the right, also?

Purveyor

This Revolution WILL be televised!

Don’t worry! They are most certainly not coming for you!

Eat the Rich!

BWAHAHAAHAHAHHAH!!!!

lol trust me it would take more than that to offend me. I just meant we have a lot more in common than language, i mean we fight for you guys on the front line in war. 
I just don’t see the current republicans having any answers to your current problems (the democrats also) I just don’t understand the right wing mentality sometimes. I mean CincyChick4rickperry calling the protestors ‘hippie pigfilth criminal vermin’ unless you or your family are top politicans, ceo’s of banks or corporaitons the protestors fighting for you as well.  

What to funny are the ones who are calling the protesters dirty hippies when film of the protest shows many middle age and elderly protesters.  The live reports are that the Boston and San Francisco protests are huge.

Why make a remark advocating violence against women?

don’t you know by now–GOP does it–good–DEMS do it–bad?
all things bad under bush–becuase of clinton? all things good under bush–bush?
all things good under clinton–reagan? all thing bad under clinton-jimmy carter?
all thing bad under obama–obama–and all good things under obama–bush…
praise jesus~

Don’t be so anal retentive!  

It was a joke, a figure of speech for cripes sake!  That is precisely what people find so irritating about self righteous Lefties, you play a game of assumed superiority.  ”Violence against women,” sheesh, you sound like a “Code Pink ” kook!

The problem is, the right has their own “self righteous” people and groups as well.  Except the Right claims to have God on their side, rather than coy know it alls, one of whom calls herself “Kitty” of all things.  LOLYou asked for it…

By the way, I threaten to “kick” my dog occasionally, am I “advocating” violence against animals?

Purveyor

I threaten to kick my dog occasionally, am I advocating violence against animals, you silly goose?  Oops, now what did I do, I bet I’m in more trouble now?  LOL

This is just the beginning! 

The ‘powers’ that be are shitting themselves right now!

O’Reilly is a spinner, we all know that, and people usually either like him or dislike him with equivalent intensity. But if O’Reilly can be purposefully simplistic he’s never plain stupid. Until this segment…

This is a very poorly done spin-job with an underlying stupidity that matches the level of deranged (inflammatory) political bloggers.

Really shameful for any professional journalist… Even for the Fox News this is too low, stupid and sloppy. I guess even Goebbels would feel uncomfortable with this.

Semper Fi: Marines Coming To Protect Protesters On Wall Street
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/01/semper-fi-marines-coming-to-protect-protesters-on-wall-street/

Calling all Military Veterans of Reddit. We took an oath to protect the people and the constitution of the United States of America. Meet me on Wall St.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/kwtjl/calling_all_military_veterans_of_reddit_we_took/

Yes, because all “lefties” hate capitalism. It’s not just that they want regulations to fight against the uglier side of capitalism.

What’s missing in this article is that many of these protestors are Ron Paul hardcore supporters. This more bullshit. This is not about class warfare. This is about greed and Wall Street gone corrupt and wild diluting the value of people’s 401k accounts and destroying their retirements. This is about the Derivatives that only Wall Street concockted so the rest of us couldn’t understand. It’s about the Bank of America nickle and diming everyone to death by not only imposing checking fees, but now implementing fees for using my debit card to pay for groceries at the supermarket with my own money. How is that any different than paying with a check. A debit card transaction should be easier for BOA to process than a check.  It’s just a few more billion dollars more on their profit and loss statement. Hannity is an idiot in trying to portray this as a protests strictly by liberals. I’m by no means a liberal and neither are the Ron Paul supporters.

I record O’reilly every night, and try to watch as much of his shows as I
can.  The segment he did last night ridiculing the occupy wall street protesters was so bogus I’ll never be able to respect him again. That little twit
Jesse Watters cherry picked a few protesters to make the whole movement look idiotic and
irrelevant, but to those us who have been following what’s really going on, it’s
obvious he’s the idiot. I still had hope that O’reilly was going to give
his viewers a fair chance at truth with a tease of an interview with Susan
Sarandon, but his silly ready dismissal of her drove the coffin nail in any
lingering respect I still clung to for him… Even though I don’t agree
often with O’reilly on his positions, I’ve always thought he was pretty
reasonable and fair, placed value on his opinion, and used it as a check on my
own. That’s now gone. He’s a f’cking pompous jerk. I’ve been wanting to
seriously and sincerely ask how the tea party is viewing this developing grass
roots uprising against corporate greed which is concentrated at Wall St and is
killing our economy and Country, expecting that we would all be together on this
one. But I can see that if tea party members generally are Fox viewers, they’re
getting such a skewed view of what’s going on, my hopes to finally join forces
and focus the fight where it belongs are thrown to the wind…

Well shit, there ya go right there!
You da man, Robert………

You would have to go to the bath room and choke your chicken half way through the date. Because you would not be getting any fat boy!

These protesting maggots know only two speeds: sitting on their porches waiting for their entitlement checks, and rioting.

These Leftist inbreds are always screaming for ‘other people’ to pull ‘their’ wagon so they can continue being lazy. And because they’re all limp wrists, it’s fun watching them YOWL in pain when they get arrested. “OWWWWW! You’re HURTING Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!”

Quote:

“The hitchhiker stood by the side of the road and leveled his thumb, in the calm, calculus of reason”…Ah, “Pinko Steve,” I haven’t heard a word out since your puerile defense of Jane Fonda, a week or so ago?May I ask what subject you are yammering on about this fine Sunday morning?

I suspect you have a Freudian interest in any presumed woman named “Kitty,” hence, you believe she must be attractive and you are defending her virtue?  In a very non-Socialista manner, I might add?  Aren’t you “Reds” supposed to be big on sexual equality?  LOL  So let Kitty fight her own fight!  

Anyway, I assume you imagine the two of you can march off to the Glorious Revolution together…Perhaps, you and KItty could attend a “Bloom of 1000 flowers” convention?  Mao came up that one.  You see, Mao invited the intelligentsia to a meeting of forgiveness and meeting of the minds, so to speak.  A form of reconciliation whereby he sought the REMAINING free thinking minds to help Mao and the people finalize the “Revolution!”Mao listened attentively to their ideas and complimented them on their new found devotion to the revolution.  THEN HE KILLED THEM ALL THE NEXT MORNING!  

Yes “HANOISTEVE” you are associated with wonderful people and a wonderful political history. “Fat Boy?”  Huh?  Were you referring to the model made by Harley Davidson, or me?  LOL

The Purveyor of Rhetoric

MS. KITTY,

Michael Hayne, the author of the piece you site above, on the Marines.  Haynes is a Comedian, who occasionally publishes pieces such as the one above.The piece is “parody,” not factual… (You do know that many soldiers returned home from Vietnam and the Mid-East, and protested against the war?  All warriors are NOT mindless automatons, frequently they even  have varying opinions?)  The soldiers just don’t discuss them when on active duty, which is a “good thing.”Purveyor

Why do you refer to segments as packages?

Tea Party= Americans against “Government” Bailouts and Crony Capitialism. Notice the government in quotations as to not confuse those so adamatly trying to disparage and belie what the tea party stands for. These Wall Street Crooks play second fiddle to the bi-partisan policies employed by Washinton that have set up this corrupt pay for play, bailout madness. These Occupy Wall Street folks while comendable in their concern simply missed placed what street to protest on. Move it south to D.C. in front of congress and watch the tea party show up en masse.

Their news division, Baier, Wallace, etc. have been covering this story from day one.

It would have been more accurate for Bob to write “promote” instead of “sponsor”, although Fox News did give the Tea Baggers
plenty of free positive advertising. There are plenty of examples of Fox News
promoting Tea Parties on youtube. A Fox News producer was even up on the
stage coaxing them to cheer louder.

And if any of the Occupy Wall Street protesters had something good to
say, you can be sure Fox edited it out. Here’s an example of their
editing:

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5crhZAAlXME

Come on Robert. Watters could have interviewed half of those protesters and found they they have no clue. They are just there for the party.

The kinds of tax increases needed to sustain a European Socialist system will be far more than just “mild”.

People who see that their government wants to take over banks, car companies, oil, coal, energy, education, manufacturing, production, agriculture, medicine, and healthcare while regulating everything else, and don’t see the “barbarians at the gate”, are useful idiots.

Wait, people who agree with people they agree with and criticize people they disagree with are hypocrites? That’s just stupid.

For Lloyd and his lapdogs: People who see that their government wants to take over banks, car
companies, oil, coal, energy, education, manufacturing, production,
agriculture, medicine, and healthcare while regulating everything else,
and don’t see the, as useless idiot Joe Biden would say “barbarians at the gate”, are useful idiots.

Useful idiots who have never learned the horror of communism in man’s history won’t even be useful idiots for too long to the “barbarians at the gate”.

Every Marine and soldier I have ever known have signed up for America and the freedom it used to offer anyone willing to work. Your little clowns at this protest despise America, and the freedom that it used to stand for. No free man stands up, raises his right hand and promises his life for his government. Nice try, troll. It is clowns like you that free men from all walks of life need to stand up to and say enough is enough to. Troll.

Videos like this strike me as pretty worthless. Any large protest is going to attract some people who can’t clearly articulate their purpose. Any editing room can sift through video clips and choose which ones to present to follow their preferred narrative. Meaningless.

You mean that they were forced to take and gave back as soon as the government would take it?

No.

http://tinyurl.com/ctb8jv

Goldman Sachs (GS, Fortune 500), Bank of New York/Mellon (BK, Fortune 500), Wells Fargo (WFC, Fortune 500), JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500) and Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500)
– all ‘mega-banks’ that the government forced to take bailout money –
say they want to return taxpayer funds “as soon as practical.”

Isn’t the tea party and all their rallys kind of a protest, too?

No, Fox News did not sponsor the Tea Party.

Greed is legal, last I checked. You don’t like it? Don’t do it and don’t do business with those who do.

This is a movement that is partly in reaction to the tea party, This will be a force  that will effect the 2012 elections. A reason for young people to go out and vote.

Well, if you want to rationalize, I will too:

Every speech OBAMO makes is a ‘protest.’ The Democratic National Convention is a ‘protest,’ held in a sports arena rather than city streets.

This is what the left needs, A shot in the arm to get the vote out for America’s youth.

Remember kids, if you don’t like a video, just sit there saying “misleadingly edited” to yourself until the bad FOX news man goes away!

Capitalism is fine when ALL can participate equally.  But what we now have is casino capitalism, and socialism for the wealthy. 

Lol obviously Ailes has sent out orders to marginalize the protest – there is nothing ‘anti Capitalist’ about demanding our money back from firms we rescued and now turn massive profits.  There is nothing anti Capitalist about believing the free market should correct itself without a trillion dollars in our money going to huge corporation that produce Nothing yet make massive profits providing investments in criminal enterprises.

Capitalism should not have anything to do with criminal investment scams that cause world economic collapse – that is not Capitalism, that is not Democracy its just criminal.  What Capitalism is about is turning a profit on bona fide organizations operating legal businesses.  Where is FOX and the teaparty on prosecuting the criminals that stole our money in the ‘Financial Collapse?’

These people have the right to a fair trial but we have a right to justice.

Thanks Bob for pointing out the vast injustice of Fox better know as Foul Hoax TV.  They are so transparent, they could be used as Saran Wrap.  What is sad is that they fool so many people all of th time.

Ahh, ND you are either very old or were born in the wrong generation – Red-baiting and McArthyism are sooo 1950′s

‘Red-loving’ you make me laugh.  You are also unaware that the Red scare was manufactured to prevent further advances in labor rights here.  Labor safety and compensation were greatly improved by Socialist movements – many things you no doubt take for granted.  My only wish is you could be transported back into the days of Social Darwinism as an immigrant meat packer.  After all you are such a good ‘hard working’ Capitalist – Im sure you would have had no problems handling the working conditions back then.

i gladly give you evidence A:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_B-ir_Tyyw&feature=fvst

i love philosophy, purveryor, but also love practical solutions to our problems.

i see a mild tax increase on those making over $200,000/year as one of many solutions
to our problems.

but my opponents see ANY tax increase as “class warfare”

do you?

i’m concerned about the guns you own?

since when?

i’m concerned about the guns you own?

since when?

that’s true

i posted the link to the research that proves it’s not a lie….

in fact, it is well-known. 

purveyor

you should never threaten to kick you dog

or threaten to choke a woman

Congrats to the Occupy Wall Street protesters.  It’s not true that they didn’t achieve anything.  They have delivered tangible results:

(1)  The New York financial community, which donated heavily to Obama in 2008, has now moved into the Republican ranks.
(2)  Investment banks will continue to shift more of their business to their London offices — at great cost to the US and the city of New York.
(3)  Occupy Wall Street has reinforced the view among mainstream Americans that the Left is unhinged
(4)  Even the liberal media is so embarrassed by these loonies, they are trying to bury the story.

Face it, these are considerable achievements.

i can’t believe you call yourself a philosopher

i know very well what they are (@50%)

and please tell me which politicians are advocating a “european socialist” system

brave protestors

Typical.

Now how about answering his question?

Well, you leftist clowns want to take over banks, the auto industry, medicine, agriculture, energy, oil, education, healthcare, medicaid, production, demonize the wealthy, regulate everything you touch, and now some of your whacks want to decapitate those that wont “share wealth” (google Rosanne Barr for that one), and some of your liberal representatives want to suspend elections. Google Bev Perdue for that one. That you are down with it makes you, and yours, what Stalin used to call useful idiots. Tell me sweetpea, what can’t the government run again?

Useful, you? Yes. But to whom? Idiot? Yes. Big yes.

EVERY armed forces individual I know, ESPECIALLY ones who fought in one of the World Wars fought for these people’s right to free speech and protest, and also sorry to say, the right for a WPOS like yourself to condemn them.

Wow, sweetpea, I was hopin’ you’d take the bait. But you’re too stupid not to. I suppose they fought for the rights of the Tea Party to protest too and their free speech too? The ones you call tbagsrstupid, idiot? Who actually types for you, idiot?

Every person I know in the military support the Teabags that you call stupid. I don’t know any military that supports or fights for socialism and communism. Do you? Idiot.

Virtually incoherent retort.  However, if it is your belief that our multinational corporations can barely defend themselves and are helpless against our government you are seriously deluded.  Your insults simply expose the shallow content and lack of any substance in your position.

Demonizing half of your fellow Americans (‘Leftist Clowns’) is not only un-American  is is the root-cause of so many of our problems today.  Lack of civility and the lack of critical thought your posts provide is a symptom of a superficial and feckless citizenry that detracts from any meaningful contribution to our great country…

Really, 0bama shaking down BP for 20 BILLION shows they have power against the government??? You’re laughable, but any useful idiot is. Laughable, right behind pathetic. Our multinational companies are fleeing this country in order to survive. Did GM have any say in the UAW taking over its production? Did the shareholders have any say in the sham that 0bama handed them? Do the insurance companies have any chance to compete against the government? Does Maxine Waters really feel that “this liberal wants to take over all oil businesses”? While 0bama shuts down coal? Clown. Like all leftists, you are a USEFUL IDIOT.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2008/may/maxine-waters-wants-socialize-oil-companies

Back in 2008, Waters was lecturing oil company executives at a
congressional hearing when she plainly stated her true intentions: 
“Guess what this liberal would be all about?  This liberal would be
about socializing … uh, umm.  … Would be about, basically, taking over,
and the government running all of your companies.”

You never answered, sweetpea, what don’t you want the government to run, and regulate to the nth degree?

your link 45.2% equals all…..lol

‘Shakedown of BP’ – you are very ill informed here is what the Chairman of the Board of BP said about the 20 billion dollar settlement:

“We have made it clear to the president that words are not enough. We
understand that we will and we should be judged by our actions,”
Svanberg said when he faced the cameras after the meeting. He added, “I
would like to take this opportunity to apologize to the American people
on behalf of all the employees of BP, many of whom are living on the
Gulf Coast.”

Here is their 1st quarter profit following that ‘shakedown’ – up 17%  http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/bp-profits-up-17percent-in-first-quarter-despite-spill-damage/2011/04/27/AFqKnLzE_story.html

Im just going to assume paid or not paid that you are a troll intent on spreading lies and misinformation.  No more feeding you troll.

‘Shakedown of BP’ – you are very ill informed here is what the Chairman of the Board of BP said about the 20 billion dollar settlement:

“We have made it clear to the president that words are not enough. We
understand that we will and we should be judged by our actions,”
Svanberg said when he faced the cameras after the meeting. He added, “I
would like to take this opportunity to apologize to the American people
on behalf of all the employees of BP, many of whom are living on the
Gulf Coast.”

Here is their 1st quarter profit following that ‘shakedown’ – up 17%  http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/bp-profits-up-17percent-in-first-quarter-despite-spill-damage/2011/04/27/AFqKnLzE_story.html

Im just going to assume paid or not paid that you are a troll intent on spreading lies and misinformation.  No more feeding you troll.

You’ve never answer any questions, you never answered any of mine. Why is that?

You said:

TbagsRstupid 47 minutes ago in reply to NDanielson

EVERY armed forces individual I know, ESPECIALLY ones who fought
in one of the World Wars fought for these people’s right to free speech
and protest, and also sorry to say, the right for a WPOS like yourself
to condemn them.

Why not start with these? I’ll even clean it up for you.

I asked:

I suppose they fought for the rights of the Tea Party to protest
too and their free speech too? The ones you call tbagsrstupid?
And your pals call racist, bigots, baggers…Yet these “protesters” that you and your pals support are openly supportive of socialism and communism.

Every single person I know in and from the
military supports the “Teabags” that you call stupid. I don’t know any
one in the military that supports or fights for socialism and communism. Do you? 

Few Americans are listening to what you say anymore.  Your days of having any influence are just about over.  You don’t define anyone but yourselves …. and it is ugly and hateful.

You are right about who the author is but quite wrong about this being a parody.  Investigate it for yourself if you don’t believe me.

It has been said that “taxes” are an indicator of the human contract with society and culture and the creation of the urban edification.  I agree, but, how those “taxes” are spent is another indicator?  LOL

The very creation of America and the “American experiment” was over “taxation without representation.”
To answer your question: “Tax increase” precedes class warfare, at this time.  Ergo, increasing tax rates on any person or group is economic folly.  America needs to be held accountable for the profligate spending of the past, NOT, given one more chance!

As for “class warfare,” such is a socio-political tactic, like calling someone a homophobe or racist in order to put one’s opponent on the defensive.  Just like “crying wolf,” such no longer works, as the various as admitted or not, America is socially very well along in the healing process.  We even have a half white President now!  LOL

DARLA, we don’t need more tax income, we need to be responsible citizens.  Allow me to ask you a question:  Can America justify/rationalize raising taxes, yet, keep the Southern Border open while providing Health Care and education for illegals?  (So too, might we limit the extent of our military adventures?)

Until we, philosophically understand, our need to be economically responsible, America cannot exhibit the largesse we once did.

Purveyor

“Hannity’s crew, which remained off camera, found similar sentiments…” 
Is that what they “found”? I expect Hannity to manipulate and exploit b/c he lies in the name of his own interests all the time. But as you cover him covering the protest you make it seem that this was just some random documentation they came upon and then aired. Obviously they selected the ones they wanted to show for a reason. The impression you’re left with after viewing this package (though they had one or two reasonable folks within) is this protest is made up of freaks and idiots. Fine. That’s what Hannity does. And I know Fox isn’t the only one to do this.But should you be aiding him? When reading articles on Mediate, I go here b/c it generally feels objective. Not partisan. But when you string together a sentence like the one above it almost feels like you’re being complicit to Hannity’s agenda instead of your usual, unbiased perspective. The one with distance.

Anyway, just thought I’d point this out.

And, I’m so glad that nobody on the left ever avoided military service!

So those on the right who did not serve are “draft dodgers”; those on the left who did not serve are….?

(Some must remember Bill Clinton’s ”kind” words and his ”take” on the military during the Viet Nam era.)

Some have bemoaned the lack of coverage of these protestors, but much of the left-leaning print media and much of the same broadcast media (video) are not covering these demonstrators because many feel the images presented by these protestors do not resonate well with much of “main street” America.

Many on the left don’t want the country to see these (what many Americans perceive as) “misfits” without a cause (or maybe with too many causes) as represenative of much of the left. I have sought out and found interviews with many of these people on the net, and when I hear these people speak on the net and on TV, they come across as “lost in (political, economic, and social) space.”

For some of them, it’s as if they want the 60′s back again. They missed their time in that era, and have a multitude of causes that they are unable (or unwilling) to clearly define that many of the various segements of protestors are latching onto.

The few far-left celebs who have made an appearance have not helped their cause but have only added to the perception that most of these protestors are out of touch with what most of America (even most of frustrated America) deems as “reality.”

Of course, then there’s MSNBC.  Most of their pundits are almost as out of the main stream as most of these protestors.  For that network, this is nectar from their (albeit low ratings) gods.

Protesting the massive war crimes, the U.S. war on Vietnam, the literal slaughter of millions in a peasant country from actual cowardly B-52 “carpet bombing”, Agent Orange defoliation of vast areas of agrarian society, the nazi-like attempts at starving an entire population, searing thousands of US troops as well, torture “Tiger Cages”, Phoenix Assassination slaughter of 300,000 Vietnamese, warships, missiles, bombing Hanoi, napalming for fun, the horrors the US war machine unleashed on a national liberation struggle for 15 years, which went down to defeat by a righteous, indigenous, heroic people’s army that KICKED YOUR ASS. This is one proud parent who didn’t protest “drafted classmates”, you uninformed fool, most of the draftees were working class kids who could not afford college, just like today, to unknowing, subject to the rightist media control, propaganda then, as you apparently are today, without the courage to refuse to serve the criminals and their war machine, you genuflect before the same old bourgeois media scam. The U.S. war on Vietnam war collapsed because the troops started to defect, “fraggings”, rise of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, rebellions across the entire society.  Courageous students slaughtered at Kent State, Orangeburg, even the disgraced criminal Nixon ran on a “Peace With Honor” lie program. Never paid reparations agreed to by War Criminal Kissinger, never even an apology for the MILLIONS of Vietnamese you and your imperialist machine slaughtered. Shame on your sorry ass. The whole world knows it.

If you believe the Occupy Wall Street movement “have no clue” you willagain  be clueless when your Know Nothing stupidities are overwhelmed by realities. Try to understand the slogan of this huge and growing movement, now in 15 cities in U.S., many countries from Spain, Greece, Israel, by the millions: “We Are the 99%!!” Get with it, take a stroll on the wild side, uneducated onlooker, go talk with these principled folks, they enjoy dialogue, discovering and illuminating tea party pathetics like you. How’s your pension/IRA/job security doing?It’s a new day emerging chump, sounds like you want to be left behind snivvelling again. Shame on your sorry ass.

Excuse me, you must be confused:

I am concerned about you and your likeminded compatriots being protected by the first amendment. Moreover, “Im concerned about YOU being concerned about a figure of speech, a simple phrase I used to make a point, pertaining to firearms, that I may or may not own?

I am also concerned that self righteous, officious people such as yourself, are
protected by the “equal protection” and “due process” clause? The same as I.

However, I am philosophically consistent, via “neutral principle,” with the application of the Constitution, whereas, it is apparent, you would apply that treatise arbitrarily, as you see fit? That is very dangerous conceit on your part!

Then again, philosophical consideration eludes you…

In the future, do not attempt to be condescending with me. You lack the education, sophistication and intellect to “cross swords,” “parry and thrust,” with me. Touche’ Or, is there something in this last sentences that harms your fragile sensibilities?

Purveyor of Rhetoric

Stop being coy.  Your accusation is a trite argumentation tactic, as I am schooled in debate and argumentation, I won’t offer a defense to such a silly attempt at condescension…

For too long the political right in America has allowed gays, African Americans, Woman, Muslims, et.al. to put the political right on the defensive, over alleged and perceived affronts. LOL  Those days are past DARLA, you and you species are fighting for survival.  

I won’t ask the question, rather, simply make the statement:  You have no shame!  

By any means necessary for the glorious revolution.  Ouch!

Purveyor of Rhetoric

I don’t “call [myself] a philosopher, I am a Philosopher.

NO COMMENT

“[W]hen ALL (sic) can participate equally.” 

Where and in what aspect can we all ever “participate equally”?  There is nothing in this world where total or complete equality exists.  (Perception always distorts “reality”:  my posts are great, yours stink.  To most of the left, all these Wall Street protestors are “terrific”; all the Tea Party protestors are “racist.”)

Most of these NYCity protestors “protest” something, but few present any viable alternative to what they oppose.  Their veribage is vapid slogans printed on T-shirts, homemade or (capitalism at work?) pre-printed signs.  “Power to the people” is about as effective a concept as “you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”; lots of alliteration, but little substance.

When really analyzed many, not all, but many of these protestors ideas “inhale with great velocity,” i.e., (PC for they) “suck.”

When the Tea Party holds a rally, the protestors don’t look like these NYC protestors because they don’t look like throwbacks from the 60′s, (even the few in their colonial costumes).  And, like it or not, the Tea Party folks have made an impact in many political and ecnomic areas. 

It seems, most of the “Occupy Wall Streeters” are the real astroturf…(Of course, they “love” everyone, except those who don’t agree with them)!

Now, let’s go take over a park, pee in the bushes, sleep in the streets, and block a bridge!  It’s how we “create” equality!

Live reports retired Marines have landed at OCCUPY WALL STREET NYC.
http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

At least they’re getting the news coverage now they should have gotten from the beginning.

Who are the parents of these children? O I forgot, they are Obama and Pelosi’s children… all the class warfare rhetoric is bearing fruit…  Who pass the Dodd/Frank? Obama & Co. Who is saying the rich don’t want to pay more? Obama & Co. Who is screaming that we are an unfair country? Obama & Co. Who NEEDS more cash to pay off their communists (union) activists? Obama & Co…. what we need to understand is that Obama wrote many I-Owe-You for his campaing and now he needs to shakedown all the US to pay ‘em up.

progressives aren’t interested in the truth… all she wants is to dispense the cool aid…

That is what YOU think.

Dont waste your time with these teabagged libturds… they are in all the forums to dispense the cool aid… they need the tax increase so that obama pays them for their ‘services’ (to sit in a forum and dispense cool-aid)… come 2012 these basturds will be without a job, OD’ing in some alley or dying of HIV… tis a matter of time.

Progressive Liberal sludge pretty much underlines this group. The mindless Obamacon bottom-feeders with their hands out looking to be taken care of by everyone else.

If those protesters would just take a bath (with soap and shampoo), delouse themselves and send away the union people, normal Americans might take them more seriously.

Barack Obama.

I don’t see what’s so hard to get…

Read it what was said instead of trying to rehash it into something that wasn’t. Some people just interpret things stupidly. Do you not find talking heads on the left to be hypocrites in their demeanor towards protestors? Like how they covered the Teaparty compared to Wisconsin? How is Hannity any different?

What, you mean king 0bama got BP to grovel at his feet? I thought you said governemnt couldnt do that, troll? That is what you said, dummy, isn’t it? I thought you said businesses are…here let me refresh your memory, because your too stupid to go back and find your post?

Virtually incoherent retort.  However, if it is your belief that our
multinational corporations can barely defend themselves and are helpless
against our government you are seriously deluded.

No there not at the mercy of 0bama the benevolent. They gave 20 Billion dollars for giggles. Have they got their money back from the shakedown artist? The community agitator? No. Have they paid out 20 billion?

Profits are a dirty word to a communist clown, huh, sweetpea? Hey what were GE’s profits?

General Electric
Co. reported a 77% increase in first-quarter profit, leaning heavily on
its large lending business even as its core industrial operations
picked up. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703983704576276564256544634.html

Wow it’s good to be king, huh, sweetpea. You’d know, is ignorance really bliss?

Conservative protesters actually know why their protesting.

RACIST!!

Somethings missing? Who’s disagreeing with who?

We have jobs…remember those? When the time is appropriate we will be out in force.

The one Obimbo gave them?

And you think those Union improvements were do to socialism?

And the correlation being….what?

You’ll have to explain the connection between the people protesting against higher taxes, government accountability, less government spending, opposing Wall Street, pro small business, and these young people. The Tea Party isn’t pro Wall Street – Obama however, is. he loves them and their lobbyiest.
 Plus don’t you think it is a little to soon to even put these somewhat aimless people in the category of “movement” at all.Young people will go out and vote but making Wall Street the bad guy won’t be the rally cry – getting a job will be.

Lots of differing opinions of the Wall St protesters and the movement itself here, but there’s an article that really should be read by all to add to the discussion that puts it all in the proper larger perspective.
http://www.nationofchange.org/best-among-us-1317480226

 I wonder what the Christians like Hannity and O’reilly think when they see something like this.   http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/dear-republicans-youre-thinking-of-jesus.jpg

Wall Street give money to both parties depending on which way the wind blows Obama and Paul Volcker, former chairman of the Federal Reserve;
Bill Donaldson, former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission;
Congressman Barney Frank, House Financial Services Chairman; Senator Chris Dodd,
Chairman of the Banking Committee and the President’s economic team to call for
new restrictions on the size and scope of banks and other financial institutions
to rein in excessive risk taking and to protect taxpayers. Wall Street is no longer in Obama’s corner. In fact Wall Sreet has donated 10,000,000 to Scott Brown(R) Msssachusetts.Young people usually vote for Democrats.They just need motivation like most.

That still doesn’t explain how this Wall Street protest is somehow a response to the rise of the Tea Party.
College students can afford to ‘play’ politics, right up until they actually have to put their own money where their mouth is.

Thank you,

Typically, when I checked her source and found such lacking, KITTY quickly entered a “Progressive” denial zone as if if everything was/is copacetic?

You are quite right—”Progressive’s aren’t interested in the truth.”  Case in point!  (note: what they are interested in worries me)

Purveyor

If you knew anything about history you would know that Vietnamese have no special love for the Chinese, so yammering on about Chairman Mao makes no sense.

“pinko” what decade are you trapped in?

Didn’t you get the memo, the Communist are not a threat, now they produce most the products you consume and loan you all the money to continue useless wars.

HANOI STEVE said:

“The Communist are not a threat, now they produce most the products you consume and loan you all the money to continue useless wars.”  (grammar errors are his)

Yet you are asserting the Socialist/Communist is NOT a threat?  Sun Tzu’s basic lesson is of “deception.”  The Socialist/Communist machine has been deceiving the world for over 100 years.  In the recent past, after the Cold War, the Socialist’s cleverly chose a different, less militant tactic: Economics!

And when the time is right, the Socialist/Communist military machine  will be right behind…NO, I do not desire to live under Socialism.  If you do, then there are plenty of places to choose from.  Leave in the morning!

Purveyor

The right are the hypocrites who go around calling Vietnam war opponents “cowardly,” as the above poster did. Yet these same rightwingers are led by a bunch of chickenhawks who hid from serving in the kind of wars they want everyone else to fight.

Somehow this comment has 42 likes while early all the comments posted below this one has likes in the single digits.

How does that work?

“…someone lamenting that “our democracy has really turned into capitalism,”

Oops! And here I thought we were a Constitutional Republic.

First of all Bill (the troglodyte whose intellectual endowment lies between Nietesche’s superman and the opening of the alimentary canal) O’Reilly. To which Jesse Watters Im sure stays within close proximity. Be advised, between Jesse’s interview and your discourse on the occupy wall street issue. I would have to say was a tad bit opprobrious with a ignominious vouchsafed tautological apperception of subreption. In short Bill, why dont you just retire and go to a place like the U.A.E so that wherever you stand the grass will grow and the discourse will flow………………………………

First of all Bill (the troglodyte whose intellectual endowment lies between Nietesche’s superman and the opening of the alimentary canal) O’Reilly. To which Jesse Watters Im sure stays within close proximity. Be advised, between Jesse’s interview and your discourse on the occupy wall street issue. I would have to say was a tad bit opprobrious with a ignominious vouchsafed tautological apperception of subreption. In short Bill, why dont you just retire and go to a place like the U.A.E so that wherever you stand the grass will grow and the discourse will flow………………………………