That was one of the best BOR segments I’ve seen in a long time….He’s exactly right. (He agreed with me)

That was one of the best BOR segments I’ve seen in a long time….He’s exactly right. (He agreed with me)

Spot on Bill O’.The media fell all over themselves trying not to mention the Ft. Hood shooter was Muslim.The media didn’t mention the Ark. shooter was muslim.In fact,the media has just about stopped labeling terrorist has muslim.

Yet, 1 attack by a great white terrorist,the media wets themselves calling him “rightwing” and Christian.

The words “crusade” and “jihad” mean the same thing.  Muhammad and Jesus are both the equivalent of the Boogey Man…I’m just curious as to why one Holy War is better than the other.

 You’re a Moron…What are you gonna do with your penny?

Thanks for that awesome comment.

It isn’t. The only difference is that I haven’t heard of any recent Crusades. 

Well, O’really can try and change history but yeah christians killed alot of people… In a Christians eyes for the right reasons. Im sure many of the Witches burned in Salem forgive them of it.. The dark ages of the european world embrace those that killed them in the name of god and christianity.. as did the people slaughtered during the Crusade. Let’s not forget Hitler himself used Christianity to persucute others. let’s be honest.. Matthew got a good point. I would think by now religions would do the right thing. Stay silent in their churches and homes and read the good book and actually learn what it says. But, we have so many loud loyals in all religions that just want to kill people to prove how righteous they really are. strange this thing called religion.

What you said about the media is patently false. Just by virtue of the Ft. Hood shooter’s name, one could reasonably conclude he was Muslim. With respect to Arkansas shooter, he was definitely identified as a black Muslim.

Breivik believed Jesus Christ to be his lord and savior, professing himself to be a savior of his “people and of European Christendom.”

But no, Christ didn’t compel him to murder; his social conservatism did.

You make a good point, Matthew not so much.

Let me be the a-hole to counter with the Fort Hood guy.  Nah, screw that.  Let’s try to be honest, neither psycho is an all encompassing representative of their respective religions and political persuasions.

Bull, he’s right.  The corrupt liberal media did everything they could to not attach the word Muslim to the Ft. Hood shooter. 

You’re an idiot, wrapped in a moron.

You’re an idiot, wrapped in a moron.

Both “crusade” and “jihad” are “bad things,” but they “don’t mean the same thing.”  Muhammad and Jesus, Boogey Men?  Only to far right and left loony toons.

This mass murderer was actually a follower of the “Unibomber” not Christianity.

Well, tell me how did you know he was Muslim? Drudge, Fixed News, or Redstate? I certainly don’t rely upon aforementioned for my news, and i knew he was Muslim and was influenced by an American born Muslim living in Yemen or Somalia.

While I agree that the good book has been used in many evil ways I don’t agree that Christians or any other people including Muslims should be silent in their churches. Our faith is who we are and that translates to our lives and we have as much right to our opinions and values as anyone else. We also have the right to influence the creation of laws just like anyone else in this country. Your comment reminds me of what used to be said of women and blacks. Women should stay pregnant and in the kitchen and the blacks must stay in the back of the bus. Indians should of course stay on the reservation. Well this women is not staying in the kitchen and I will not hide my light under a bushel either. As for the idea that they all want to kill people to prove how righteous they are it is beyond ridiculous.  

The ‘Left is so unhappy it was only white people that died.

Bill O’Reilly  preaching to the choir oh boy that’s a shock.

Get a clue anyone that says anything you disagree with is the mortal enemy so why would O’Reilly say anything different?

Rupert Murdock plays you right-wing dupes like a fiddle.

Fort Hood=Muslim.  Utoya=Christian.  Deal with it.

In other words only Muslims can be killers, if a Christian kills they are doing it because of something other than religion.

I hate to agree with Bill O, but he’s right. The Norway massacre wasn’t caused because the terrorist is a Christian, IT WAS CAUSED due to the terrorist being a hardcore extremist right-wing nut job. It’s especially horrifying because a crazed Republican extremist/Tea Bagger could go off AT ANY TIME here in America due to their hatred for immigrants, Muslims, the poor/working class/middle class, abortion, gay marriage, etc. the list goes on and on. Society is moving past social conservatism, and the freaks who can’t let go of it have turned to threats and violence.

Truly, the suffering the people of Norway are enduring is the result of a crazed right-winger whose social conservatism cost the lives of over SEVENTY people, most of them *children*. It makes one ask the Republican/Tea Baggers here in America: Is your ridiculous, hate filled, divisive social and political philosophy worth all of the suffering that it causes?

You are lower than shit.

You are lower than shit.

You are uninformed and a great example of how stupid the GOP are.

You are uninformed and a great example of how stupid the GOP are.

Bet you got a birds-eye view, eh ‘Crupt?

Bet you got a birds-eye view, eh ‘Crupt?

Ok .I will stop playing the game for a second and speak some troof.

I believe we can put this Anders Breivik in the same category has the Ft.Hood shooter,and Tim  McVeigh.

NONE DID WHAT THEY DID BECAUSE OF RELIGION.Instead,they did what they did because they were….

Its a simple reason……….

THEY WERE LOSERS.

They were psychopathic losers who couldn’t  accept responsibility for their own failures.Instead,they cloaked themselves in religion and they look for reasons to justify their actions.

Remember,Jared Loughner didn’t  shoot Representative Gabrielle Giffords  for religious or  political reasons.Jared Loughner shot Rep. Giffords because he felt she disrespected him at a townhall event.

Now…Back to the game.

Christians are the biggest mass murderers in history.

But Bill-O says “Tide goes in Tide goes out and no one knows why”

Bill – O     – we Scientists do!   We understand molecular biology and geo-dynamics!   Go back to Hooterville!

Christians are the biggest mass murderers in history.

But Bill-O says “Tide goes in Tide goes out and no one knows why”

Bill – O     – we Scientists do!   We understand molecular biology and geo-dynamics!   Go back to Hooterville!

Just remember, Rev. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and obama are Christians.

TELL ME THE KILLERS
OF ABORTION DOCTORS
ARE
NOT DOING BECAUSE OF CHRISTIANITY

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

WHATEVER BILLO

Nice come back bigot.

Nice come back bigot.

Thats why condemning a religion because of a few loons is shorsighted. Tell Herman Cain to reconsider his positions.

scientist, lol

They left is unhappy that it didn’t happen in this country.Just like they were unhappy that 9/11 didn’t happen on Clinton’s watch.

By this time next week Fox News and the usual suspect will have thier views convinced that President Obama and the Democrats had trained this terrorist just to embarrass the Republicans.  This man was not a MUSLIM, and that clearly gets in the way of the Narrative that Fox News and the Conservative Right has going for them.  Laura Ingrham subbing for Orielly on Friday said that this must be the work of Muslim terrorist, now that we all know that it was a Norwegian, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT AN APOLOGY TO THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY FROM THAT “PIG”…

LOL

O’Reilly can’t handle that one of his own wingnuts went bonkers.

Fact: He said he was Muslim.

Fact: He said he was Muslim.

So your saying he didn’t copy one word from the unibomber’s manifesto?

Tell Herman Cain I don’t want any new churches built in my neighborhood. He’ll understand.

Not the point hero.The point is the double standards in our media.

Fact: He was shot by law enforcement authorities and was hospitalized for months in intensive care before he every spoke one word. There was information that was gleaned from computer(s) that lead to authorities learn about his radical beliefs.

Fact: All phony loons are lefties like you moron!
Typical human shield bait doesn’t have any clue to why you were picked to stand
out in front of the action.

lol

Bill says that Breivik was not a Christian, but he was.  

On his facebook profile, he describes himself as a Christian and that he chose to be baptised into the Church of Norway at 15.  In his manifesto, he described himself as a “moderately religious” protestant who supports “a reformation of Protestantism leading to it being absorbed by catholicism”. He declared himself to be the “a savior of our people and of European Christendom” 

He was in favor of “a secular European society based on our Christian cultural heritage”  He invoked Roman Catholic Canon Law and the example of the Crusades for support, and looked toward a “Crusader Pope.”

“If there is a God I will be allowed to enter heaven as all other martyrs for the Church in the past,” and advocated that such potential martyrs take of “the Eucharist (Holy Communion/The Lord’s Supper)” for strength to face such death. 

So Bill is wrong.  The media reported that this guy was Christian they were 100% correct.  Bill used this as an excuse to label and falsely accuse the ‘main stream’ media.

Papa Bear needs a vacation and while he’s on it he needs to hire some real researchers.

Even a scant reading of his “manifesto” made it pretty clear that he was speaking of “Christendom” in the European sense, not the generic sense that one usually talks about the varied beliefs of Christianity.

No one tell Papa Bear that there are plenty of parties in Europe that label themselves “Christian Democrats”.

His head might explode.

Remember all the

I wish his last name was smith? Why couldn’t he be white? I cringed at the tought of him being Muslim?

Conservatives has always, and will continue to complain until they’re blue (red) in the face about so-called Liberal media bias and double standards. Just stop whining for once!

Fact: Crusades were a reaction against the Muslim
land grab of the day and slaving of people who were not Muslim. These Muslims
have came out about every one thousand years pull crap get butts kicked then
repeat thru our history. Nothing less!

He did and he also said he was a christian and was fighting for Christian values.

Why does this asshole have to make the news and not reporting it?

And conservatives forget 9/11 constantly.

No I don’t recall. So why don’t you enlighten me, give me names, dates, and shows to support your contention.

Fact: Drop out no doubt!

don’t let satan blow it out no!! im gonna let it shine..let it shine..

There’s a big one in Iraq, been going on a while.

Also, which oil companies own the fields?

You believe what you want to, we have that right.. ask the Muslims what they think about it? they have rights to opinion to no? I bet it varys? wanna bet?

You’re WRONG! The Ft.Hood guy shouted “Allah Akbar”….I didn’t see or read anywhere that this monster shouted “God is great” while he was shooting innocent people

I was going to suggest we elect more atheists just as a precaution, and then I realized half the politicians in DC would denounce God in a minute if they thought it would get them elected. What was I thinking.

Just curious: ” Do you work, or are you retired and don’t have a lot going on in your life?” Seems like your posting 24/7.

To: thebiggestbrax
Fact: He was under investigation about his beliefs
many times. Investigations about what he told others as a counselor he bragged
about being a good Muslim and that were so off the wall weirdo stuff that
higher ups failed to clamp down because of being a politically correct environment
against harassment profiling. Blow that BS up somebody elses a$$.

lol, nice one cosmos

Call me non-intuitive, but I have no idea what you mean by that remark.

Jihad means “a struggle within ones self” and crusade means what? Might I suggest reading a book?

Did i forget to mention the left is calling for another Oklahoma City bombing so Obama can reconnect with Americans?

Jihad is not a bad thing. It is simply a struggle within ones self. Going to work to provide for your family is considered jihad. Also it is very disrespectful to refer to Jesus and Muhammad as “boogey men.”

Fact: Words of an police officer at the scene not from him. Never attended any Church. Wow really a Christian?

So when its a Muslim its the religion but when its a Christian he is just a crazy person. HAHAHAHA.

Fact: Utoya=werdo never attended any Church!

You expect him to understand a term like “European Christendom”?  That is a pretty loaded term that denotes the anti-Turkish/Muslim sentiment of what is now dubbed “Early Modern”.  

I understand that Bill and most of the media does not get this point, but between the language and cultural barriers, this has gotten lost in translation multiple times.

Fact: School drop out or union teacher failure with screw lose!

Fact: School drop out or union teacher failure with screw lose!

Falafel-Billy doing his job. What a surprise the word manifesto wasn´t
mentioned. Liberal and Muslims took too much space up in that speech I
guess. Fear Christian Extremists like any other Extremist, I say. They
only cause harm in the world.  he psychopath  belongs in the camp of the
international right wing nut jobs. His manifesto is full of delusions
that cons spit out on a daily basis. Not only in America.

Falafel-Billy doing his job. What a surprise the word manifesto wasn´t
mentioned. Liberal and Muslims took too much space up in that speech I
guess. Fear Christian Extremists like any other Extremist, I say. They
only cause harm in the world.  he psychopath  belongs in the camp of the
international right wing nut jobs. His manifesto is full of delusions
that cons spit out on a daily basis. Not only in America.

Fact: Everyone dies! But we don’t have to pay Obama sized taxes!

Learn to read the discuss system better . . .

I saw a great tweet somewhere that Cain declared he wouldn’t hire any blondes in his administration.

Tell ‘em yourself bigshot, your’e obviously very important.

Fact: Post link?

Facts dont matter on FoxNews and in the heads of right wing nutjobs.

Fact: Words of an police officer at the scene not from him. Never attended any Church. Wow really a Christian?  

Yeah, you know like your average American Christian.

I am not against Christianity. A majority of Christians are good people and are not extremist. (BTW I am not a Christian) The fact remains there is an ugly side to Christianity. Some Christians use the Bible and especially the Old Testement to justify the worse possible human behavior. There are so many examples I will not even bother mentioning them.  To deny Christian extremism exists is more than naive. Bill O Reilly is lying through his teeth.
Open your eyes Bill! The Bible can be used for good. It can also be used for evil.
Has Bill ever opened a History book in his life? I suspect he has. Bill is lying and he knows it!

You betcha!

You betcha!

A guy shouting s/thing vs. a guy not shouting s/thing doesn’t mean one guy can be stereotyped as the poster boy for a religion or political party and the other guy can’t.  WTF is wrong with you?

A guy shouting s/thing vs. a guy not shouting s/thing doesn’t mean one guy can be stereotyped as the poster boy for a religion or political party and the other guy can’t.  WTF is wrong with you?

“Fact: School drop out or union teacher failure with screw lose!”

Just4thefax, what the hell are you trying to say in your post? Are you calling *me* a drop out or union teacher failure *or* the right-wing nut job Norway terrorist a drop out or union teacher failure? Either way, it’s disheartening that you hold such contempt for schoolteachers. But then again, they certainly didn’t do much for *you*.

Fact: do you chase dudes in your tiger suit?

Fact: Christian that doesn’t attend church? Police at the scene floated a theory of who he was?

Fact: Christian that doesn’t attend church? Police at the scene floated a theory of who he was?

I wouldn’t get anywhere near your flat sorry a$$.

I wouldn’t get anywhere near your flat sorry a$$.

Hey, I’m back, just had lunch. Anyways, you really were happy about what I said, right ‘Crupt?

Fact: I call that uncleduke syndrome!

No, wrong again Stooge, we’re reminding your dumbass right now!

Tough to build anything in your sewer.

Interesting! You won’t get far with that truth. History has altered that part. Muslims were killing and enslaving all the non-Muslims and grabbing land and the catholic church began the crusades to rescue them. However after they began it took on a life all its own with less altruistic goals and outcomes. Sort of like many wars throughout history. However they start men of greed will use them for there own purpose.   

“Michael Servetus was a Christian living in the 1500′s who incurred the
wrath of John Calvin and was murdered by him and his cronies for
illegitimate
reasons. He was accused of heresy and railroaded through a mock trial
and
put to death being burned alive at the stake. Yet such an atrocity was
praised by even well-known Calvinists as Bullinger and others for
generations.”

I guess John Calvin was still a Christian, as killing Servetus does not count as a “mass murder”.
How many people can a Christian kill and still be considered a Christian by Bill? 1?, 3? 15?
Does Bill O Reiley have a number in which you finally lose your membership?

Many of the Popes were apparently not Christian. This may surprise some.

So many examples you  won’t bother  to list even one?  Not one?  Not one itsy bitsy indisputable example?    My gosh, class over I guess, nothing left to learn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Bill, was Generalissimo Francisco Franco a Christian?
How about those devout Orangemen in the Ulster Special Constabulary who did the dirty work?

Anyone else not shocked by this pathetic rant?

He didn’t even care about the victims….nah…just about the poor Christians.I guess the victims are not as important as making sure the Christians are not victimized by those damn liberal elites huh…guess he didn’t read the manifesto….classic Bill-O….crying dishonesty while being dishonest.Like I said,I’m really not shocked…Hey Bill-O,when you say “not a Christian, that’s impossible. No one believing in Jesus commits mass murder”…you make me wanna vomit, you stupid fu**.Pathetic.

read the definition of jihad, it has three contexts

I just left some examples. I could spend the next 24 hours giving examples of murderous atrocities done by devout Christians. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can use their computer to find more.

Tide goes in; tide murders a bunch of kids because they’re multiculteralists. Oh, and Bill, I would imagine that Christ didn’t condone the Inquisition either.

Only a buffoon would actually believe no one mentioned the Ft. Hood shooter wasn’t muslim.  The fact he was a muslim was mentioned almost before they mentioned the shooting.  They interviewed his imam, and constantly talked about his connection to the American born cleric in the middle east.  So this guy was christian who cares?  Quit wetting yourself over it.  Hitler was a christian too, wanna fight about it?  Walk it off and change perceptions by donating your time overseas.

Fact: Bears.  Beets.  Battlestar Galactica. 

Hi, you have my permission to google the newspapers for the days following the shootings so that you can stop your own ignorance.

How about Rick Perry? He has signed hundreds of death warrants. Oh that is right. These are “righteous deaths”. My bad.
Lots of loopholes.

I guess I got my information from a secret government transmission directly into my brain as a privilege for my 10 years of military service because I knew he was a muslim.  I thought I got the information from watching CNN and listening to NPR, but it was obviously the secret transmission because the liberal media was hiding it.

I hardly think anyone is qualified to comment on the religion of anyone else. If Anders Breivik accepted Christ as his savior at any point in his life, then yes, he was a Christian, despite the fact that he committed horrible mass murders. It’s foolish to claim that no Christian has ever murdered anyone.

I hardly think anyone is qualified to comment on the religion of anyone else. If Anders Breivik accepted Christ as his savior at any point in his life, then yes, he was a Christian, despite the fact that he committed horrible mass murders. It’s foolish to claim that no Christian has ever murdered anyone.

I hardly think anyone is qualified to comment on the religion of anyone else. If Anders Breivik accepted Christ as his savior at any point in his life, then yes, he was a Christian, despite the fact that he committed horrible mass murders. It’s foolish to claim that no Christian has ever murdered anyone.

So according to Christians, there is a difference between killing and murder. Yet the definition changes place to place and year to year and church to church.

I am so confused (sarc).

Do you believe in the evolution of ideas?  The evolution of faith?  Do you acknowledge that the form of christianity is not the same form that was practiced by those living in 50 CE?  Do you understand that even the New Testament calls for women to wear hats?  Do you wear a hat in church?  Do you own slaves as St. Paul explains is acceptable to own in the New Testament?  Do you find and collect rocks to hurl at homosexuals and adulterers?  Do you commit adultery as polls indicate nearly 60% of women (58% of men) ADMIT to doing in American?  How can you explain the evolution of the christian faith over time?  Do you believe that ensuring Israel remains intact will ensure the second coming of christ no later than the year 2030?  Do you believe that Native Americans are the lost tribe of Israel?  Do you believe that special underwear are required to be worn to ensure sanctity?  Do you pray to dead men and women to receive special intercession on your behalf to god?  Do you believe that jesus was the reincarnation of krishna?  Do you believe that your brain is not who you are but an invisible bubble that resides inside your chest is who you are?  Do you believe in a talking snake?  Are you so arrogant that you believe that god manipulates every part of your life to “teach you lessons”?  Do you believe that muhammad the emissary of Allah was illiterate and wrote upon palm leaves the words of allah spoken through an angel?  Do you believe that muhammad went from liking jews and christians, to hating Jews and liking Christians, to hating christians and jews depending upon the time in his life and who he was at war with?  Are you so ignorant that you hated the questions I asked that pertained to your religion and enjoyed those questions presented that didn’t.  Do you believe in evolution?  Do you understand that the solar system formed from a nebula and that this is observable today in other similar nebulae?  Do you understand the original purpose of religion was to explain that which man could not explain and that as time proceeded and man understood more it adapted….no….evolved to remain relevant?

Do you believe in the evolution of ideas?  The evolution of faith?  Do you acknowledge that the form of christianity is not the same form that was practiced by those living in 50 CE?  Do you understand that even the New Testament calls for women to wear hats?  Do you wear a hat in church?  Do you own slaves as St. Paul explains is acceptable to own in the New Testament?  Do you find and collect rocks to hurl at homosexuals and adulterers?  Do you commit adultery as polls indicate nearly 60% of women (58% of men) ADMIT to doing in American?  How can you explain the evolution of the christian faith over time?  Do you believe that ensuring Israel remains intact will ensure the second coming of christ no later than the year 2030?  Do you believe that Native Americans are the lost tribe of Israel?  Do you believe that special underwear are required to be worn to ensure sanctity?  Do you pray to dead men and women to receive special intercession on your behalf to god?  Do you believe that jesus was the reincarnation of krishna?  Do you believe that your brain is not who you are but an invisible bubble that resides inside your chest is who you are?  Do you believe in a talking snake?  Are you so arrogant that you believe that god manipulates every part of your life to “teach you lessons”?  Do you believe that muhammad the emissary of Allah was illiterate and wrote upon palm leaves the words of allah spoken through an angel?  Do you believe that muhammad went from liking jews and christians, to hating Jews and liking Christians, to hating christians and jews depending upon the time in his life and who he was at war with?  Are you so ignorant that you hated the questions I asked that pertained to your religion and enjoyed those questions presented that didn’t.  Do you believe in evolution?  Do you understand that the solar system formed from a nebula and that this is observable today in other similar nebulae?  Do you understand the original purpose of religion was to explain that which man could not explain and that as time proceeded and man understood more it adapted….no….evolved to remain relevant?

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was on to something.
At least Gandhi was consistent.
All killing to him was murder.
There is something to be said for total nonviolence.
This way you do not have to tie yourself in knots like Bill O Reilly.

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was on to something.
At least Gandhi was consistent.
All killing to him was murder.
There is something to be said for total nonviolence.
This way you do not have to tie yourself in knots like Bill O Reilly.

Just because you say “Fact:” doesn’t make it a “Fact:”.

LOL@ Hilter was a Christian.

“Christianity is an invention of sick brains,” Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.
“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death,” Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

Didn’t want to get into what Hilter was or wasn’t.Hilter was another psychopath who used religion as a way of manipulation.

Couldn’t it be equally disrespectful to disregard the person’s view that they are boogeymen?  I am glad that you schooled some people on the definition of jihad.

Nice

Nice

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistle?Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. By their fruits you will know them. Bill knows the guy is not a Christian as well as you do. Extremist are usually people who are not what they profess to be.
By their fruits you will know them. Bill knows the guy is not a Christian as well as you do. Extremist are usually people who are not what they profess to be.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistle?Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. By their fruits you will know them. Bill knows the guy is not a Christian as well as you do. Extremist are usually people who are not what they profess to be.
By their fruits you will know them. Bill knows the guy is not a Christian as well as you do. Extremist are usually people who are not what they profess to be.

Presumably what he meant the rest of the times he stated, “Fact:”!  In this poor individuals mind he can state an opinion as a fact and it makes it true.

no surprise there.  I’d bet you think 9/11 was an inside job, we never landed on the moon, and reaching back hundreds or thousands of years for equivalency makes any kind of sense at all.  How many millions did secular Stalin and Mao murder?   You don’t have to believe in a god to be crazy, and you don’t have to be crazy to believe in a god.  I agree those on the right emphasizing this guy didn’t do what he did in the name of religion ought to further clarify Christian teachings in no way permit such action, the same as the muslim faith doesn’t, but wait, some interpretations of it does exactly that.  I won’t tell you how to think or live, but I would prefer you get off your high horse.  You are as dirty as the best of us.  We all are.  Unfortunately, some by their actions are as dirty as the worst of us.  

*you’re*
There is no validity to your comment.  I could easily say, “So you’re saying he didn’t copy one word from the Voltron theme song?”  If he did or did not is he any less a christian?

I hate to break this to you Billo but in his diary he also send he was a regular viewer of Fox News.  just saying.

So, he wasn’t motivated by his politics?

So, he wasn’t motivated by his politics?

Fact: jesus was jewish and went to synagogue.
Wow really a christian?

Agreed.

Agreed.

Radovan Karadžić….Devout Greek Orthodox
Ordered the Srebrenica massacre
Guilty of crimes against humanity.
Sould I continue?

*weirdo*

You two best buds or something?  How do you know what he has or hasn’t done in his life?  He says he’s a christian, he’s a christian.  Billy Graham says you don’t have to go to church, but accept jesus as your personal savior…. you calling Billy Graham a liar?

I don’t get it.  Does that mean you like Obama?

*you’re*

Funny thing you ask, I mentioned the atrocities Mao and Stalin committed last Saturday here on Mediaite.
Stalin, Mao and the Khumer rouge were pure evil. I am not a truther and I believe man landed on the moon. I believe in a God or a”force”. I beleve in an eternal soul. I am not an Atheist.
teccec, you know little about me. If you have questions please ask.

Loughner shot her because he is a schizophrenic who found easy access to firearms.  He found easy access to firearms because our firearm laws are weak and he wasn’t diagnosed.  He wasn’t diagnosed because in America our biggest psychological treatment centers are our prisons and he hadn’t shot anyone yet to be sent there to be diagnosed.  You see it’s a simple circle, all you have to do is change one small thing and it is no longer a circle.  Either change the gun laws or change the method of diagnosis either way the problem as it exists is solved.

 Yes it does Moron! I would ask “WTF is wrong with you?” But I already know….Libtard

 O’reilly the master of spin is just a master at how he does it.First thing is, even Fox reported what the authorities in Norway told us,and that he is a Christian.Liberal media trash is just Fox crap so I won’t even address that.Yes,he does identify as a Christian, and no, Christians aren’t taught to mass murder people.

It’s obviously  clear of Fox News hypocrisy because there is absolutely no one at Fox that would take that rational if a Muslim did it even though the 1.5 billion muslims on earth do not approve of mass murder.

O’reilly is the same ass that has been saying “there is a muslim problem” remember that.When the table turns  O’reilly shows his true colors.

Natureboy42 ,
Wow!
Is this true?
Links!

Except when a christian kills an abortion MD.
Then being a ‘christian’ is OK

I go after liberals just as much I go after conservatives here, but I submit to your baseball card pack gum argument.  You win because you shout the dumbest the most aloudess.

Feel good?

lolololololol…now that papa bear has weighed in you can start calling the blond haired blue eyed terrorist a muslim extremist……you dumbasses will fall for anything…See O’Lielly knows that you wingnutts are far to uneducated and stupid to read the manifesto…in the manifesto the terrorist talks extensively about his christian upbringing and it ended with the terrorist saying that the last thing you should do b4 launching an attack is to go to church…..seems pretty christianlike to me…but for Mr Tide Comes in, Tide Goes Out all that indicates just the opposite….you conservatives without a doubt are the most gullible, stupid, ignorant, inbred bunch of wingnuts on the planet

The media isn’t here for us to “Reasonably conclude” numbnuts. They are here to say that a motherfucker yelling ALLAH U AKBAR before he shoots his own men is a MUSLIM TERRORIST.

Some people just can’t see what hypocrites they are.

What about the government where the TERM of ISLAMIC TERRORIST no longer exists? Since Obozo’s asswipes made that announcement, I haven’t seen A SINGLE MENTION of ISLAMIC TERROR in the Obama ass rimming press!

i wonder why he says islam is the problem when muslims terrorists attack

Here you go, YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT…. Here is the MSNBC fucking conclusion of the whole goddamn matter, YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/gunman-kills-wounds-fort-hood/

There was no official word on motive. But Hasan was scheduled to be deployed overseas on Nov. 28, officials said. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said military officials had told her that Hasan was “pretty upset” about his deployment, which she said was to be to Iraq.
And here is CNN’S you lying corksoaker! ( say it fast and you’ll understand)!
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-11-05/us/texas.fort.hood.shootings_1_gen-robert-cone-nidal-malik-hasan-fort-hood/2?_s=PM:US

FIND THE WORD MUSLIM IN THE ARTICLE AND I’LL GIVE YOU TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ! You lying sack of shit.

I take it this is in regards to my ‘axplaning’ to you…..And Yes, I’ve been here a long time..And I ALWAYS win! And BTW….I’ve never seen your name here. So unless your the typical libturd here, that changes ‘it’s’ name here everyday…you better fear me….As both the libturds AND on my side will tell you, I don’t hold back. So be VERY careful….Moron.

Here you go BEYOTCH. 
EVAN THOMAS: I cringe that he’s a Muslim. I mean, because it inflames all the fears. I think he’s probably just a nut case. But with that label attached to him, it will get the right wing going and it just — I mean these things are tragic, but that makes it much worse.
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100504125834.aspx

NOW SUCK IT LIBERALS! ( to quote D-LIST douche bag Kathy Griffin)

Not sure if capital punishment is murder- at least not religiously.  Killing is not always murder. 

Also, Catholics are against capital punishment – not that they have much say in Texas.  Still, hard to say capital punishment is any more of a Christian thing than any other religion or non-religion.  Look at what the “godless commies” did (that is a bad joke I am afraid).

As an agnostic I would love to see the Norway shooter get the Death Penalty instead of his max 21 years.  

Could you give us a better example?  I honestly want to hear some.  

South Park, you OWNED THAT BEYOTCH!

Don’t you just love how both left and right can be hating on news reporters on the same thing, but for totally different reasons. While OReilly here’s pissed with NYT for calling this terrorist attack the work of a CHRISTIAN extremist, some lefties elsewhere on the Web are angry at the NYT for calling Breivik an extremist, rather than a terrorist.

Don’t you just love how both left and right can be hating on news reporters on the same thing, but for totally different reasons. While OReilly here’s pissed with NYT for calling this terrorist attack the work of a CHRISTIAN extremist, some lefties elsewhere on the Web are angry at the NYT for calling Breivik an extremist, rather than a terrorist.

Well, 1 can’t be mass murder.
3 to 5 is getting close, but they have to be killed about the same period of time.

Well, 1 can’t be mass murder.
3 to 5 is getting close, but they have to be killed about the same period of time.

BrokenTusk,
I am against the death penalty.
BTW
The internet is full of examples.
Nature Freak leans towards Pacifism.
No more from me on this subject.
Love is the only solution.
Intense hate over a long period will destroy you.

Civilized countries do not use the death penalty,
The Death Penalty needs to end.

Find the word CRUSADE in the BIBLE dumb ass!  I’ll give you TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for every mention you can find!  The Crusade is a construct of the FALSE CHURCH IN ROME, the one that changed baptism to EXCLUDE JESUS’ VERY NAME!!!! See acts 2:38 for proper baptismal instruction.  The CRUSADE was a by product of the BOY RAPISTS who BLASPHEME by calling themselves FATHER instead of “Reverend” or “Minister”, see Matt 23:9. The crusades are a product of the false church whose EVERY BELIEF is AGAINST WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE. From calling priests Father, (matt 23:9) to claiming Peter as their “First pope” but NOT FOLLOWING WHAT PETER SAID in the FIRST Holy Ghost filled sermon, (Acts 2:38), to worshipping IDOLS, to commanding the abstention of MEAT of Friday and prohibiting priests and nuns from marrying, WHICH  as PAUL prophesied to Timothy, ARE THE TWO SIGNS OF THE FALSE CHURCH!  Don’t get me started on the fact that they don’t teach their members that the Holy Spirit is something to actually RECEIVE (Acts 2:1-4, Acts 10:44-40, Acts 1:4-8, Acts 19:1-6 and so on.  

The Catholic church does not represent the BIBLE where Christianity is FOUND.  The are a false doctrine teaching sect. The proof of that is that they are the church that THINKS that Jesus came TO BRING PEACE ON EARTH, which they harp about endlessly every Christmas, DESPITE THE WARNING BY JESUS CHRIST NOT TO THINK THAT!!!!~!!    Matthew 10:34-38 I mean, if they don’t even know what Jesus’ mission WAS, how can they think they know Him? And if their explanation of his mission is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what HE said His mission was, well, who could have an interest in perverting the words of Christ in such a fashion? Hint: 1 Timothy 4:1-4 careful attention to the words DOCTRINES OF DEVILS and SEDUCING SPIRITS in this WARNING against the CATHOLIC CHURCH! Now that you’ve had your bible study from the actual BIBLE for a change, what about those Muslims? 

I DOUBT you would care to make the same Ten thousand dollar wager on finding the words JIHAD and KILL THE INFIDEL , in the Koran now wouldja?

Come on, teccec, you need someone to give you examples?  Why do you ask Nature Freak to provide you with examples?  You’ve never heard of the Salem witch trials and executions?  Of course, you have.

Or about the slaughter of First Americans who wouldn’t give up their native lands to the invading Christians?  You’ve never seen a John Wayne western?

Or how about the ever delightful KKK who defended the Old South’s white Christian heritage by lynching blacks, practically for the sport of it?  White Christian parents would bring their kids to these lychings!  Good wholesome Christian entertainment?  The murdering of a human being?

So really, teccec.  Make an effort.  I know you got it in you.

Legalism would deal with this.
A number would be picked.
My solution is for all killing to end.
The human Race is struggling with this issue.
We have been for a long tome.
I actually believe humanity is making progress.
Non violence is the only answer ( i am talking about causing murder and serious injury)
Again, i have pacifistic leanings.
If our species is to survive, this is our only hope.
I support a woman’s right to choose, but I do respect Catholics who are both against the death penalty and abortion as well as all killing. At least their interpretation of natural law is consistent.

First- The Crusades
were not good things, but not all evil either. Some of the other Crusades (such as the first) were defensive actions to aid allies against invaders.  They were also not even all violent
(The Children’s
Crusade- although those kids ended up on the short end of violence).

The fact is that bad as some Christians were, you will find plenty of evil actions
by their enemies as well.  It was a dark time, and people tended to do nasty things to each other- trying to say you are somehow removed from it while practicing Christians share a spot of blame is really just bizarre- the world & Christianity is drastically different now.  It could be said that most of Western freedoms come from or at least through the “evils” of Christianity.   

The Crusades are very
hard to lump under one cause- and they should be if you consider how long they
lasted. If your heart is set on evil-Christian-Crusades I would suggest you research the Crusade against the Cathars (if you have not already), now that
was ugly and truly evil but not against Muslims or even in the Holy land.

Second- Hitler is
Always a bad example- and not just because of Goodwin’s Law.  The guy
talked out of both sides of his mouth. For every example you can give on him
being a Christian there are other quotes from him that would say he was
anti-Christian and/or an atheist.  There are examples beyond religion as well- the guy just used every tool in the book to advance his evil cause.  I wish people would forget that sick bastard even existed. 
 

Finally, I do think
that most of the worlds organized terror is being committed by Islamists at the moment.  But also consider the people that are practicing terror are bad Muslims practicing bad Koran. Similarly, a
“Christian” that kills to advance a political cause has gone pretty
far off the tracks of his religion. So far that it really isn’t fair to call him a Christian.  And just so you know- this is coming from the point-of-view of an agnostic/athiest.

 I have asked this question and I think its useless to argue anymore unless someone on the right can answer this question. Has anyone with a far right mentality ever done anything wrong in your eyes? Please answer so I can have a basis for an argument otherwise its like swimming in a sandbox.

Extremism is a dead end road.
I needed to give examples.
I am sorry if I offended anyone.
I dislike extremism of any religion.
Denial does not help. Many of those who are Atheists are such because they are fed up with vengeful Gods and hateful practitioners.

I do not know your opinion in regards to this, but the same standard needs to be applied to Islam.
Loving non violent Islam exists.
I admit the Qur’an has violent passages.
So does the Old Testament.
We need to rise above violence, this means Christians, Moslems, Jews, and all other human beings, no matter their faith or lack of.

The guy may or may not have been a good Christian in his own warped thought process. The difference is that no Christian other than the ones we all agree to be loony such as Terry Jones or the Phelp’s inbreeds condones or gives a wink and a nod to murder. We know the opposite is true of the “religion of peace” whose Imams happily whip their followers into a murderous frenzy such as what happened after the Koran burning.

 There are a large amount of christians who support the man who killed Dr. Tiller

 Who??? I have never met a Christian who told me that aborting baby -killers is somehow justified or good.

wake up

A small sample of the hatred expressed on Twitter after the assassination of Dr Tiller: Crap, I always forgot hashtags. I’m happy Tiller’s dead. - Jennifer Waite, Selah, Washington
UPDATE… Doctor George Tiller was aborted today in his 204th trimester – aren’t paybacks a bitch - Punch
oh HAPPY DAY! Tiller the baby killer is DEAD! - Samantha Pelch 
George Tiller the baby killer was shot dead this morning. God bless the gunmen who hopefully won’t be caught. - readnwatchchris, Creedmor. NC
was George Tiller the baby killers brain scrambled the way he scrambled full term fetuses.. one can only hope - Brad S
Infamous baby killer George Tiller gunned down at (irony) church. Why do I not feel sorry for him? Have fun at Judgment Day. - James Fiddler
tiller the baby killer shot dead…wow. is it insensitive of me to say what goes around comes around? - Brad M. Negulescu Cleveland.
George Tiller the Baby Killer shot dead. May he rot in Hell. - Amy Strong
Tiller Baby Killer was shot and killed this morning Justice has been served. - Shirl Ledeux
Thinking about “Tiller the baby killer” He now knows the wages of sin is death. - Dianne McDowell
May Tiller rot in Hell , infanticide is the murder of babies, he WAS a provider of death like Hitler, Bundy the list goes on…. - Dennis, A People Voip Company
Burn in hell George Tiller - mikedanben Sparta, NJ (41.005501,-74.672)
No need to pray for George Tiller. We know he went straight to hell!!!!! - Laurie D. Bailey Olive Branch, MS
Good ridence to Tiller – babies will not be murdered because he is now gone. Wonder how he likes hell! - Jay Emess, Southern, NJ
Karma is a beautiful thing. Cheers to the hero who sent George Tiller where he belongs… straight to hell. - Matthew Kamar
omg!george tiller abortion dr. was killed n his church parkn lot! hell yea! - Sarah Gulick, Wtichita, Ks
George Tiller: Burning in Hell for the last three hours. - darthdilbert Kettering, Oh
Hmm, I know it’s wrong, but I feel like the Late-Term Abortion Doctor George Tiller, got what was he deserved….. - Mary Keogh London England
Boom Boom Boom. George Tiller was served a very very late term abortion this morning. - Chad Coleman, coeur d’alene, IdA few more added 6:54 PM Pacific TimeGuy shoots a Dr. to death in Church. Me I’m willing to bet that Jesus was his co-pilot. - jeremyawhitman 
Tiller the Killer goes to Church and ends up in Hell - mshellisright, Tulsa
Tiller the Baby Killer is finally dead….God took care of what needed to be done…. - Cynthia Wrench
The left-wing nutjobs don’t understand that Tiller the baby killer was not human. No human kills babies, only monsters. Good riddance - Sami Shamieh, Walnut Creek, CA
I guess Obama the Messiah can’t resurrect Tiller the baby killer. -  Sami Shamieh, Walnut Creek, CA
The person who shot Tiller the baby killer simply excercised a man’s right to choose. - Sami Shamieh, Walnut Creek, CA
the killing of tiller the baby killer was JUSTICE, not murder. - eqbt
Glad someone offed Tiller. Baby Killer. - Kat, KansasA number of these posts are tagged #tcot (top conservatives on twitter), this is apparently some new meaning of top that we’re not familiar with.The Twitter search ”George Tiller” OR #Tiller was running at about one tweet per second for the last two hours.  The overwhelming majority of tweets from both sides of the abortion issue expressed horror at the assassination of Dr Tiller.  Source: Carnal Nation (http://s.tt/113Gw)

Probably because they all scream “God is great” before people die?

Just a wild guess.

 This is what I mean Ken H so many on your side are so close-minded you cant see anything wrong with the radicals who infest your side of the political spectrum. I would never say that on my side. I know their are people on the left who are wrong but its seems impossible for you to admit that there could possibly be anything wrong with people on your side. This is why a debate is useless and why im worried about our future.

Extremism is a dead end road.
I needed to give examples.
I am sorry if I offended anyone.
I dislike extremism of any religion.
Denial
does not help. Many of those who are Atheists are such because they are
fed up with vengeful Gods and hateful practitioners.

Wow. A few Twitter cranks somehow equate to Christianity?? F******* brilliant.Show me the Christian spokesmen who qualify as mainstream that promote killing for God.

 The fact that you would see conservatives as the “enemy” instead of somebody who does not see the world as you do tells the whole story about your tolerance level.I am an Independent who is sick of Kool-Aid spouters from both sides. I don’t like Rush anymore than Maddow.

 see you canont see what is front of your face. Now you want a mainstream christian who say this. Please who would you consider mainstream? Pat Robertson? any other of a number of quote mainstream religious christians? And being that they are mainstream to begin with of course they would not publicly state this point of view. The mainstream is irrelevant in this argument its the radicals who kill maim and cause misery. 

Umm, Mainstream Christianity would consist of figures like the Graham family or others who teach the Bible. Pat Robertson is a kook.

 Is Pat “mainstream” enough for you?

10. ”Lord, give us righteous judges who will not try to legislate and dominate this society. Take control, Lord! We ask for additional vacancies on the court.” –Pat Robertson9. ”Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It’s no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.” –Pat Robertson8. ”I would warn Orlando that you’re right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don’t think I’d be waving those flags in God’s face if I were you, This is not a message of hate — this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It’ll bring about terrorist bombs; it’ll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor.” –Pat Robertson, on ”gay days” at Disneyworld7. ”(T)he feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.” –Pat Robertson6. ”I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that’s the way it is, period.” –Pat Robertson5. ”I’d like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don’t turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don’t wonder why he hasn’t helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I’m not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that’s the case, don’t ask for his help because he might not be there.” –Pat Robertson, after the city of Dover, Pennsylvania voted to boot the current school board, which instituted an intelligent design policy that led to a federal trial4. ”God considers this land to be his. You read the Bible and he says ‘This is my land,’ and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, ‘No, this is mine.’ … He was dividing God’s land. And I would say, ‘Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations, or the United States of America.’ God says, ‘This land belongs to me. You better leave it alone.’” –Pat Robertson, on why Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon suffered a massive stroke3. ”Maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up” –Pat Robertson, on nuking the State Department2. ”You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war … We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.” –Pat Robertson, calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez1. ”It may be a blessing in disguise. … Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it’s a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other.” –Pat Robertson, on the earthquake in Haiti that destroyed the capital and killed tens of thousands of people, Jan. 13, 2010

 Ken! What does it matter if Pat Robertson is a kook or not. Is he not a christian leader? Does he not have a lot of Christians who follow him? This is ridiculous you are narrowing your criteria down as we speak! This is why I cannot debate with you guys any further no matter what is shown to you , you attempt to twist it or ignore it. Would you like me to find radical and bigoted quotes by Billy Graham and his son for you? It will take me 15 seconds to do that, but you wont care. You will say well he was having a bad day or he didn’t mean that its impossible. Don’t you see how these people influence how people do things. The man in norway has a manifesto crammed with writers and radicals who influenced him!

o’reilly seems to be arguing two very different things

1.  that he wasn’t a christian because “christians don’t do things like that”

2.  that christianity isn’t equivalent to jihad (which presumes he *was* christian)

 Robertson has followers as did Jim Jones. I don’t consider televangelists as mainstream Christianity.The Grahams are human and I believe Franklin was a wild-child.They are more representative of mainstream Christians though. The problem is even a Swaggart or Baker comes out looking okay when compared to radical Islam which condones murder of people for dissing their religion or having a different view of Allah.

 Heres a gem from billy Graham

All homosexuals should be castrated.Evangelist Billy Graham, a statement for which he later apologized.

Okay insideguy, have a good night and turn off Hartmann and others who are brain-washing you with the “right is scarier than murderous jihadis bs” 

 Once again this is a fundamental disagreement we have Ken. First you said who was happy with Tillers death, I showed you,then you said what “mainstream preacher quotes hate and bigotry” I showed u, then you narrowed your search down because they aren’t legitimate according to YOU. I showed you a quote form Billy, I could show you many from Franklin. These ideas and sermons these men and others on the right influence people my friend. But you cannot see that. You just cant see it.

 Night Ken you lost but you cant even see it.

 I don’t see conservatives as the enemy Ken H I see radical right wing religious people and thinkers as the enemy and not just to me to all mankind.

Oil is hardly a religious motive that warrants the term “crusade.” 

Oil is hardly a religious motive that warrants the term “crusade.” 

How about money? Does that make it any better?

They hate us because we are there not because we are Christian.

Billy Graham somehow escapes criticism.
Castrated? What a terrible thing to say.
I lived in Asheville for many years (the Billy Graham Parkway BTW goes through E. Asheville)
I have never trusted Franklin graham and his “Samaritan’s purse” charity.
I refused to shop at his questionable Westgate thrift shop in West Asheville.
It was creepy just walking in the place.

the Crusades hardly warranted the the term “crusades” as they were also political motivated. Crazy and greedy people alike have always used religion as their excuse for all the horrible things they would do anyway. I for one am not a conservative, but I know that normal conservatives, Christians, right-wingers don’t mass murder innocent people. that being said, Breivik does identify himself as such and so it is something to take note of. We can’t hide from his proclaimed identity and motivation even if we all know that the most important thing is that he’s crazy.

the Crusades hardly warranted the the term “crusades” as they were also political motivated. Crazy and greedy people alike have always used religion as their excuse for all the horrible things they would do anyway. I for one am not a conservative, but I know that normal conservatives, Christians, right-wingers don’t mass murder innocent people. that being said, Breivik does identify himself as such and so it is something to take note of. We can’t hide from his proclaimed identity and motivation even if we all know that the most important thing is that he’s crazy.

Its hard for “Billo the Clown” to admit that this freak is a Christian. He’s already burned bridges by stating that the world had a “Muslim problem”. Because he would have to make the same assertion about Christianity (due to his ludicrous accusations) he finds himself cornered in his own analogy. If he was to be fair, he would just say “we have a christian problem”. 

All muslims aren’t terrorists just as all chistians aren’t murdering lunatics. There are however some crazy muslims (ie osama bin laden) and some crazy christians. This lunatic was one of them.

Asheville is Billy Graham’s “homeland” so to speak.
Google “The Cove”. http://www.thecove.org/
Asheville is an amazing place. i may live there again someday. Still, there is intolerance.

 Exactly wetspot…

Exactly.
Thank you.
You speak the truth. Many here are blind to what you wrote.

Some hate us for this, others for that. Islam isn’t exactly a homogenous bunch where everyone is dancing to the same drummer.

No, a financial motivation doesn’t make it “better,” but it hardly makes it a Holy War.

That said, given the price tag of our Iraq adventure, it can hardly be said that it is about money. Would have been a lot more cost-effective to bust in there and simply kill everybody, as they did during the real Crusades, instead of bending over backward to protect the civilian population as much as possible.

And remember how Trump was laughed out of the building, including by many conservatives, for his suggestion to “seize” the Iraqi oil fields in order to recoup the costs for the war? Would have been a cinch to seize that oil a long time ago.

As to protecting our oil supply in general, keep in mind that if something were to happen to it, the U.S. economy would tank in a way that would make the 2008 crisis look like a minor hiccup. If the U.S. economy collapses, it’ll drag other economies with it, and war, famine, and death are likely to ensue all over the world as a result.

Unfortunately, we’re so dependent on Middle Eastern oil that protecting is a matter of life and death more than it is about money.

I lived in Asheville for many years.
The Graham family, especially Franklin, is not to be trusted.
Franklin is a bigot, Billy not quite as much.

Liberal would like you to think that all Muslims are peace loving and have your best interest at heart. So much for that rosy picture and short, short memories of 9/11. Close to 3000 people lost their lives on American soil lest we forget. Only through remembrance of this tragic episode can we begin to heal.

Maybe John should stop using 9/11 for political gain.
Get a life.
Stop waving the “bloody shirt”.
John is transparent.

 Exactly..I could, but I don’t want to waste the time looking up the words of islamic leaders that want to KILL us. Altho I’m not a Robertson or Schuller or a Swaggart…or ANY teleminister fan…some one give me a clip of one of them telling ‘us’ to kill muslims. But if you ‘find’ one..I’ll show you Morons a 100 that will show ‘clerics’ that are on tape that are saying they want to KILL us…..WAKE up you you Morons.

You make nature freak laugh!
Get a life.

Go cry a river. The tea party people are here to stay and they express a huge majority of the American sentiment. So deal with it.

Christians should be living by the new Testament and my response was to the statement that Bill is lying when he says this man is not a Christian and my comment was to make the case he isn’t lying. I remember a very funny Taxi episode. Very old TV do you know it? Jim I think was the name of the crazy burn out. On this episode when talking about blue berries. He made the case for blue berries vs. blue berries. You see there are blue berries, like you eat, and then there are berries that are blue. Some you eat and some are poison. Is he a Christian (as the Bible defines) or is he a Christian (as the world defines)? So I don’t believe you can say with certainty that Bill is lying.

 But not 2nite..I’m tired…I’m gonna sleep….unlike you cubicle diaper wearing Morons…I have my own bed. I don’t have a sect 8 cubicle to live in….and I’m not going to 7/11 to spend food stamps on ‘Steel Reserve’ like you Morons OBVIOUSLY do.

 Ummmm…Moron….I was alive when Jim Jones did what the Moron did….I don’t remember ANY Christian Church saying “Yea….You go, we got your back!”….But I do remember the muslims cheering in the streets after 9/11…..

 Ummmm…Moron….I was alive when Jim Jones did what the Moron did….I don’t remember ANY Christian Church saying “Yea….You go, we got your back!”….But I do remember the muslims cheering in the streets after 9/11…..

It’s the Democrats’ continuing WAR on CHRISTIANS!!

Christians represent strong family values – which is anathema to the Democrats’ welfare-dependent, out-of-wedlock, brood-bearing voter base!

So when “Jerk-Forward” MSNBC tells you this country was built with immigrants, let them know they were the LEGAL kind, who didn’t sponge off taxpayer-supported government programs when they got here – like the Democratic-supporting ILLEGALS of today do!! 

No wonder O’Reilly is the most trusted commentator in the media.  The NY Times headline is why the times is no longer trusted. You’re supposed to report the news, not put your spin on it.  It is an insane equivalency.  If a cartoonist mocks Allah, they’re under real threat.  There is no equivalency with the Christian religion.   

Crusades were centuries ago.   You can’t hold any religion responsible for centuries-old issues.  

lol@ you dumbasses pretending Bill O’rielly is St. Peter….hehehehe….when you get to church today, and i say today because conservatives go to church EVERYDAY TWICE..ask your pastor, priest or rabbi if they believe that Bill O’rielly, themselves, the Pope or even Jesus Christ himself would declare themselves the “Decider” of whos christian or whos not…my guess is they would say NO WAY JOSE, religion is a personal choice determined by your personal relationship with GOD….Now if you wingnutts chose to place O’rielly on a higher level than God, thats on you…i dont know for sure but i suppose with a belief system so flawed that you ignore the most basic concept that ALL religions practice in order to support the words of a lunitic news reader If there is a hell below a special spot in the HOT CORNER is waiting with your name written on it…..good luck convincing the real st peter that you were just kidding….wingnut

yea you’re right about the legal kind, Slavery was 100% legal, where you are wrong is where you claim slavery wasnt a government supported, taxpayer funded program, slavery was taxed by the government too….the biggest social welfare program ever, hell it lasted 310 years too…..sir YOU ARE AN IDIOT…biggest racist piece of dogshit on this site

oh and lastly….let’s not forget that the majority of slaveowners including the founders were all good God Fearing Family Values Christians who sat up in church every sunday thanking God that the slaves didnt revolt last week, or the bed winch didnt give em the crabs, the money still flowing,and the whip didnt break….oh i bet you wont tell pistol palin shes a out of wedlock brood bearer….will ya????….hehehehehehehe

John, the Tea Baggers are a passing fad. When the Republicans get their @asses obliterated in 2012, you just wait and see how much we hear about the Tea Baggers after that. It won’t be much. The Tea Baggers are a small, ultra-right wing, angry, crazed element in politics today. History will look back on them as a bunch of selfish, freakish, jokes. Just like the John Birch society. So deal with it.

Another ignorant rant from the left. Good job.

asked and answered.

How many Christian terrorist cells do we have in the world running around blowing things up?  Hmmm?

“Democrats’ welfare-dependant, out-of-wedlock brood-bearing base!” Using stereotypes makes you look like a racist.  This does not help your cause at all. 

If you’re going by O’Reillys; the more a movement/country/whatever kills the more wrong it gets, at least when he said that Jihad was bad he said “it has killed tens of thousands”. So then, isn’t USA even a bigger crook in his eyes? It has killed quite many more.

Hitler is always a bad example

Im sorry, Hitler, yes lets ignore him no mater how he was raised as a child.. let’s move to the people in his army and country, seeing we want to bring this to the  Organized HUGE groups and not just single people. I will just use a Census and you can decide how Christians are always better than any other.

“The German census of May 1939 indicates that 54 percent of Germans considered themselves Protestant and 40 percent considered themselves Catholic, with only 3.5 percent claiming to be neo-pagan “believers in God,” and 1.5 percent unbelievers. This census came more than six years into the Hitler era”

I believe that’s ummm almost total Christian is it not? If religion is going to show how “righteous” it is, it needs to kneel and be slaughtered in the name of their god. To March on as Christians solders, dismisses the message of turn the other cheek and cast the first stone. But, you righteous people defending, keep breeding and believing it’s fine to become an extremist and kill, I mean, you do believe in a guy that lives in the clouds and a woman that had a miracle conception.. oh honey look, im pregnant…it’s a miracle..now let’s get back into the barn. Your best to just read that book and live it. There is no excuse or justification of what “man” has turned it into. But then, he warns of that in the book itself does he not?

Yes, because any RANT that begins with lolololololol is a must read… not really.

If YOU read even further, you’d notice that the killer wrote that “he does not have a “personal,” religious relationship with Christ” and anyone who knows anything about Christianity knows that in order to be Christian you must accept Jesus as your personal savior and have a relationship with him.

This murderer is claiming Christianity, but he is not a Christian, just like I may claim to be a Democrat, but I have more sense than that, so I can never truly be a Democrat – I’m far too educated.

Super, another rant from the moron.  Skip this one.

It seems to me that the leftist media (and ProObamaAgenda) have a hard time reading… as do most Democrats.

“[the killer] writes that he does not have a “personal,” religious relationship with Christ”

Now tell me, how is it possible to be a Christian yet not have a personal relationship with Christ, nor having accepted him into your heart as your savior?

Seems to me he’s simply CALLING himself a Christian, just like I could call myself anything I want, but does that make me so?  No, don’t be a moron (or should I say Democrat?)!

Absolutely right Michelle.  The leftist media tried so hard to keep the M word out of it’s collective mouth, but in the end the truth shall come out.

Absolutely right Michelle.  The leftist media tried so hard to keep the M word out of it’s collective mouth, but in the end the truth shall come out.

Absolutely right Michelle.  The leftist media tried so hard to keep the M word out of it’s collective mouth, but in the end the truth shall come out.

Seems like thebiggestbrax has a hard time reading and putting two and two together.  Typical of a liberal.

Hah, typical Democrat.  When they are losing, they regress to their 3rd grade self and begin to use profanity, name calling, and personal attacks.

Yes, yes, show us your ignorance and immaturity.

Keith, are you 11?  Every post of yours is immature and profane.

With your hatred of white people, can’t you also be counted as a racist?  Just a little bit?   

With your hatred of white people, can’t you also be counted as a racist?  Just a little bit?   

I love how “Christians” like to rewrite their History. There have been more killings in the name of their “Christian” God than in the name of Allah. BillO has said on many occassions that Muslims support terrorism if they don’t condemn it, so they are all Terrorist. But if it’s a Christian Fundamentalist Terrorist, he says “He wasn’t REALLY a Christian”? With BillO’s logic, HE is a Christian Terrorist if he doesn’t condemn Anders Breivik acts as killing in the name of the Christian God.

I got to give it to you.. I see more fruits everyday.. oh wait, that’s outside your religion?

Let’s be honest, if you lived back in the day of that child’s birth, everyone here defending christianity, would be those on the moral right of that day and be crucifying him. it’s called controling the masses.     

Not sure if capital punishment is murder- at least not religiously.

Seriously? You strap a person to a chair or on a board and kill him while the gallery watches? That’s not murder? Let’s not paint the kettle black , it already was black to start.

I didn’t say an eye for an eye is not right, But if you believe in a religion by the religion, your god will judge, not you. Thou shalt not kill… there is no admendment that says well, unless it was processed through Man’s law. Your either religious or your self righteous. be sure you know which you are.

For 8 years, “Christians” are killing in the name of God and country every day in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya and we call them heroes.

We have surrendered the claim of being a “Christian nation.”

Our wear uniforms.  Makes all the difference when the bullets and bombs arrive.
 ”God” always sanctions America’s murders.

Yet, you can use the Old Testament to displace Palestinians and create the fictitious land of the Jews- Israel.  Talk about old issues……….

Yes, Bill.  Jesus died to erase your evil sins – not your evil brain.

You are wrong when you say everyone, but it would be close to everyone. Even Peter denied him at the time. The Bible discribes how they put people in the crowd to whip the people into calling for Christ death. That is classic controling of the masses.

ofcourse im wrong, that’s the normal response of denial and also to make sure you push forth an agenda of self righteous. Don’t be as humble as the man/mangod you cherish, be as those that crucify. it’s just human behavior, he forgives you. but can you forgive others and walk humbly? that’s where most fail.

christians should be living a christian life period. Nowhere in the book does it justify or recommend being self righteous over others. It does say beware false teachings. to deny the old testament would be to deny the new. Live by the book as a whole. Athough most who stand as self righteous will preach anything.

And Bill knows about dishonesty & insanity.

“Christians should be living a christian life period.” True. “Nowhere in the book does it justify or recommend being self righteous over others.” True and I am grieved you feel that is what I am being. “It does say beware false teachings” True “to deny the old testament would  be to deny the new.” I didn’t deny the old testament. The old testament is dear to me as is the new. However Christ tore down the old law and taught the goldren rule. Christ fulfilled the old testament and set down the new.

I really got on your bad side. Sorry about that. I didn’t mean that you were wrong in the whole in fact I was agreeing with you in the most part. If you will reread my comment I said you were wrong to say everyone would deny him. It is a given when using the extremes of everyone and no one you set yourself up for being proven wrong. You brought up mob behavior and I thought I made a good example of how you were right. You said those speaking today would deny him and I showed that not only would they but those of the time did as well. Do you always lash out at people who agree with you? I get the feeling you read no further than “you are wrong”.

That was one of the best BOR segments I’ve seen in a long time….He’s exactly right. (He agreed with me)

Ah, the old, feeble “No TRUE Scotsman….” argument.

Naturally you swallowed it.

Remember, if a left winger and/or a Muslim engages in violent behavior against the government or a sector of society, it’s an act of thuggery or terrorism.

When a right winger and/or a Christian commits a similar or worse act, it’s either a righteous act or the result of someone having been oppressed to the point of understandably reaching the snapping point.

And if they are a Bible-beating deranged mass murderer, then by definition, they must be a CINO.

that’s right, Bill:  ”There is no spoon. . .there is no spoon. . .there is no spoon. . .”

the KKK also lynched Catholics and Jews, in addition to blacks.  used to be mass killings of Catholics by Protestant Christians in the US, but that stopped around the 1920s when their numbers had grown too large.

You are in error because you do not know what the term “Christian” means. It literally means “Christ Like”. There are MANY people who claim to be Christians. Jess Jackson even claims to be a Christian. Just because I call myself a tree doesnt make me a tree. If I call myself a tree and then blow up a building you cant say, “Oh we have to be afraid of trees because they are extreme.” In the same way, just because someone claims to be a Christian it doesnt make them a Christian. Jesus Christ teaches to love and accept everyone, even if they are different. So this mans hateful ideology would make him a non-Christian. There is no comparison to Muslims. Their religious leaders/government leaders spread murderous ideas. Liberals are typically intellectually dishonest(even to themselves). So I dont expect you to understand what Im saying. I hope you will though.

If Bill O’Reilly’s rant wasn’t so disturbing, it would actually be quite humorous.

Basically what this generally intelligent Fox News anchor is doing is using hateful borderline Islamaphobic language about Muslims (of all stripes) to attack the MSM’s reports about a mass muderer who *also* hates Muslims. Go figure.
The circular logic makes one dizzy.

O’Reilly conveniently chose a narrow definition of “Christian” to further his rather bogus argument that there was no way a “Christian” could do what Breivik did.

Has Bill already forgotten how demented and evil the so-called “Christian” members of the Westboro Baptist Church are?

Here’s a newsflash for you BillO. Not all Christians are Catholic nuns working in hospice centers or Protestant volunteers working for Habitat for Humanity.

Many Christians are quite angry and disturbed as they pursue what they feel is God’s work .. whether it be hate-filled protests at gay pride parades,  threatening abortion clinics, burning the Koran or protesting at Military funerals with placards invoking God’s name to preach hate.

wasn’t osama bin laden more pissed off at saudi arabia’s occupation by america than anything else
seems like he and his followers are more interested in politics than anything
religion is just a way to gather people to accomplish his political goals

wasn’t osama bin laden more pissed off at saudi arabia’s occupation by america than anything else
seems like he and his followers are more interested in politics than anything
religion is just a way to gather people to accomplish his political goals

Shockingly, I agree with Billlo.

Just because he’s a conservative (who supports tea party-esque movements in Europe) doesn’t mean he’s a Christian.

Shockingly, I agree with Billlo.

Just because he’s a conservative (who supports tea party-esque movements in Europe) doesn’t mean he’s a Christian.

Wow, did you forget your meds or something? 

 ”No one believing in Jesus commits mass murder?” Uh, what planet is O’Reilly on?   

And, I dislike his language being used in MY living room. Tune him OUT! (RE:Keith)

And, I dislike his language being used in MY living room. Tune him OUT! (RE:Keith)

“All phony loons are lefties”

And no true scotsman leaves home without his kilt. Absolute rubbish