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Bill O’Reilly, Juan Williams Slam NPR On The Factor

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There was no question the first thing Bill O’Reilly addressed on his program would be the firing of Juan Williams from NPR over comments he made about Muslims on Monday’s edition of the Factor. Sure enough, O’Reilly almost immediately called the firing a “disgraceful decision,” and later brought Williams himself on to talk about it.

Frankly, it wasn’t difficult for O’Reilly to find people in agreement with him. He pointed out, “Even devoted liberals are outraged,” and backed it up with a segment from The View where the hosts voice universal displeasure with the firing, and Whoopi Goldberg saying it was a “total mistake”

And O’Reilly was absolutely unsparing on NPR itself, which he called “totalitarian,” and especially NPR president Vivian Schiller, whom he called a “pinhead” (of course), as well as “stone-cold dumb.” Taking full advantage of the opportunity to tee off on Schiller, he called her “too cowardly” to come on the Factor, though he played a brief clip of her defending the firing at a talk she gave today, saying it was unrelated to Williams’ contributions to Fox News.

Then, it was time for Williams himself, who still appeared quite disappointed in NPR’s decision, to appear. He said he never heard from Schiller herself about his ouster, and doesn’t think the firing was because of outrage his remarks caused, saying “I would’ve heard that night” were that the case. Additionally, he never heard from Schiller herself about his termination. O’Reilly and Williams both thought the firing had something to do with a recent $1.8 million donation to NPR by George Soros‘ Open Society Foundations, however, with Williams simply saying, “Money talks”

This segment was essentially set up on a tee for O’Reilly to succeed, and he grabbed hold of it with gusto. It’s rare that so many people on both sides of the political aisle will agree with an O’Reilly segment, but Williams’ firing was almost universally panned, and frankly, O’Reilly’s savaging gave NPR’s decision what it deserved. Video below.

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  • Azarkhan

    “frankly, O’Reilly’s savaging gave NPR’s decision what it deserved.” Glenn Davis

    Absolutely. I mean, no matter what you think of his politics, Juan Williams is just a good guy.

  • m

    Juan Williams is a Fox News Liberal: a right-of-center moderate. Who gives a crap?

  • m

    By the way, the way O’Reilly uses Soros is just sad. He’s a grown man with a TV show and believes that George Soros is pulling the strings on everything. O’Reilly is Bob Lazar’s equal.

    Worse is that people actually watch his show and believe that garbage.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Azarkhan said:
    Absolutely. I mean, no matter what you think of his politics, Juan Williams is just a good guy.

    Agreed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shawn-Soya/1088592828 Shawn Soya

    At least he’s not talking about Whoopi anymore.
    That’s progress.

  • TfT

    Bob Beckel on Hannity’s show tonight:

    “Schiller has done irreparable damage to NPR”

  • Kird

    m said:
    Juan Williams is a Fox News Liberal: a right-of-center moderate. Who gives a crap?

    Well obviously you, you dumb-ass. You already posted two comments out of the first four.

    Douche.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Antony-Dupuy/1194612935 Antony Dupuy

    I have always thought of journalism in a way as a priesthood: that you honour it, you protect it…these people don’t have any sense of righteousness

    Turnip truck.

  • ChrisNH

    The NPR recipe is this: Hire melodious male and female announcers who speak in dulcet, nuanced tones. Then have them speak just enough about spotted newts and grandma’s jelly so people ‘forget’ the other 99% of the day when they’re crusading for Liberalism. That’s how they do it, folks. But I absolutely think that Republicans need to dump NPR’s funding and call it a ‘Fairness Doctrine.’

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    So O’Reilly can just spout that this was a conspiracy brought about by direct pressuring from George Soros without providing one bit of evidence? And Juan agrees that Soros was pulling the “puppet strings”?
    Fox new “journalism” at it’s best!!

  • chucken

    OK Williams did get screwed by NPR but does Fox really think it’s white teabagger viewers want to hear endless stories about a black kinda liberal pundit being a victim? This story goes away on Friday.But Muslim racist bashing by Fox will go on and on.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    chucken,

    They sound like Jack Benny and Rochester in this segment. Juan Williams is SHAMEFUL.

    –Cobra

  • Calvin

    Is anybody else having troubles with the clip? For some reason it sounds like Satan is speaking instead of Bill O’Reilly and Juan Williams. It’s probably George Soros’ doing. He’s trying to demonize them. Literally.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    I’m still waiting for the Mediaite story about Rachel Maddow falsely accusing a Republican congressman of having “prior notice” of the Oklahoma City bombing–a claim that has been repeatedly discredited by the FBI (Bill Clinton’s FBI, mind you) and all credible journalists. This claim by Maddow is intellectually indistinguishable from the 9/11 Truthers. Why no story or skeptical analysis of Maddow hitting this new low?

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    I almost puked a little when Juan told Bill in his best ass-kissing voice: “You’re as stand-up guy”.

  • Azarkhan

    AnonymousFinch said:
    I’m still waiting for the Mediaite story about Rachel Maddow

    I hope you’re waiting in front of a TV set.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Azarkhan said:
    I mean, no matter what you think of his politics, Juan Williams is just a good guy.

    Amen, man, he’s probably the most honest guy I never agree with.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Azarkhan said:
    I hope you’re waiting in front of a TV set.

    Yes, I am. I’m also waiting for someone to explain to Chase Utley that this isn’t a scrimmage.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Cobra said:
    chucken, They sound like Jack Benny and Rochester in this segment. Juan Williams is SHAMEFUL. –Cobra

    Not as shameful as you are for saying this.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    I almost puked a little ..

    Have your mommy burp you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    So O’Reilly can just spout that this was a conspiracy brought about by direct pressuring from George Soros without providing one bit of evidence? And Juan agrees that Soros was pulling the “puppet strings”?

    From the mouth of George Soros himself –

    “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.”

    Soros said this in Europe in June 2006 while speaking of the need for a UN World Government. Anyone who thinks Soros is a friend of the U.S. is clueless, blind, or hates this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for “The American Thinker” she says, “George Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England. He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically…almost overnight.”

    In 1994 Soros boasted in “The New Republic” that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.” The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, in which Soros helped almost collapse the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history.”

    In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia. At the time, Malaysia’s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohamad, called Soros “a villain, and absolutely evil.” Thailand activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people, for only his own gain.”

    The website Greek National Pride reports, “Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia, Ukraine and Myanmar. Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.”

    France upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars.

    Recently, Soros’ native Hungary fined him 2.2 million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.” Elizabeth Crum wrote that “The Hungarian economy has been wrecked as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. Soros’ deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary’s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.”

  • Big Eddie

    Nazi Collaborator George Soros cannot buy respectability . This is why a Nazi collaborator , like Nazi Collaborator George Soros will never have enough money to rectify the failed policies of Barack Obama , who works closely with Nazi collaborators like Nazi Collaborator George Soros . This cannot be washed away . Nazi Collaborator George Soros .

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Andy Lamb said:
    Mediate.com

    And that is somehow direct evidence that Soros got Juan Williams fired?
    You sir, are a jackass.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Big Eddie said:
    Nazi Collaborator George Soros cannot buy respectability . This is why a Nazi collaborator , like Nazi Collaborator George Soros will never have enough money to rectify the failed policies of Barack Obama , who works closely with Nazi collaborators like Nazi Collaborator George Soros . This cannot be washed away . Nazi Collaborator George Soros .

    Big Eddie, I am deeply, deeply by your use of the word “Nazi.” Not ALL members of the Nazi party were bad or evil. Haven’t you seen Schinderl’s List? He was a Nazi. And what about Hogan’s Heroes?

    My point is that henceforth I think we should use the term “Nazi extremist” to refer to the bad Nazis so that we don’t offend the hard-working, law-abiding mainstream Nazis.

  • rocky road

    Not everyone believed the firing was wrong. I tuned into Maddow’s show and she was a total disappointment. She supported NPR’s actions. I predict Maddow’s ratings will fall even further. She is a total hypocrite. She really believes that this is not an issue of free speech. I couldn’t be more disgusted than I am with this horrible, partisan whackjob. I will root for the demise of the Rachel Maddow show.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    AnonymousFinch said:
    Big Eddie, I am deeply, deeply by your use of the word “Nazi.” Not ALL members of the Nazi party were bad or evil. Haven’t you seen Schinderl’s List? He was a Nazi. And what about Hogan’s Heroes?

    My point is that henceforth I think we should use the term “Nazi extremist” to refer to the bad Nazis so that we don’t offend the hard-working, law-abiding mainstream Nazis.

    Sorry, meant “deeply, deeply OFFENDED”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    And that is somehow direct evidence that Soros got Juan Williams fired?You sir, are a jackass.

    Look at what you just posted, meathead. And, I never said that Soros got Williams fired. Dummy.

  • Kird

    Azarkhan said:
    “frankly, O’Reilly’s savaging gave NPR’s decision what it deserved.” Glenn Davis

    Absolutely. I mean, no matter what you think of his politics, Juan Williams is just a good guy.

    Juan Williams is Jesus among the Jews now, brotha!

  • Big Eddie

    Nazi Collaborator George Soros . Barack Obama . NPR . Puppies .

    Who doesn’t belong in the line ?

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Andy Lamb said:
    Look at what you just posted, meathead. And, I never said that Soros got Williams fired. Dummy.

    Next time don’t quote my question unless you are going to respond to it and not just post a bunch of nonsense tyvm.
    You could have went off on your little rant w/o it being a response to my post.

    K?

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    For the life of me I can’t wrap my head around O’Reillys assertion that it wasn’t an “opinion” it was a “feeling”.
    How you feel about something IS your opinion. lololol

  • Big Eddie

    AnonymousFinch said:
    Big Eddie, I am deeply, deeply by your use of the word “Nazi.” Not ALL members of the Nazi party were bad or evil. Haven’t you seen Schinderl’s List? He was a Nazi. And what about Hogan’s Heroes? My point is that henceforth I think we should use the term “Nazi extremist” to refer to the bad Nazis so that we don’t offend the hard-working, law-abiding mainstream Nazis.

    Big Eddie apologizes to all nice Nazis , all puppy rescuing Nazis , all Girl Scout cookie selling Nazis , etc .And Sgt. Schultz was funny , since he knew Nothing ! Soros is evil , and all but the most clueless lefty knows it .

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    I mean, no matter what you think of his politics, Juan Williams is just a good guy.

    which really has nothing to do with his getting fired.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Big Eddie said:
    Big Eddie apologizes to all nice Nazis , all puppy rescuing Nazis , all Girl Scout cookie selling Nazis , etc .And Sgt. Schultz was funny , since he knew Nothing ! Soros is evil , and all but the most clueless lefty knows it .

    That’s better. Rather than firing you, we’ll just suspend you without pay.

  • Kird

    CosmosDan said:
    which really has nothing to do with his getting fired.

    he got fired for being an uncle tom, or in modern terms, a red foxx

  • Azarkhan

    CosmosDan said:
    which really has nothing to do with his getting fired.

    It has a lot to do with the shabby way he was treated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    NPR’s official reason for firing Williams was that his comments “were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR. Because NPR attempts to be an objective source of news, it makes sense that NPR wants its staff to retain journalistic objectivity and not be perceived as biased.”

    A few years ago, NPR’s Nina Totenberg wished death upon Senator Jesse Helms, saying “If there is retributive justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.” On the same show she desired to hasten the death of Army General Jerry Boykin for having expressed the view that the war on terrorism “is a Christian crusade against Muslims.” Totenberg said, “I hope he’s not long for this world.” No problem Nina, NPR is proud of you.

    NPR’s official reason given for firing Williams is total horseshit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Next time don’t quote my question unless you are going to respond to it and not just post a bunch of nonsense tyvm.You could have went off on your little rant w/o it being a response to my post. K?

    Hardly a bunch of nonsense, just a bunch of historical facts and quotes helping illustrate what a bag of human shit Soros is. It is crystal clear that he has complete disdain for this country, he pretty much said so himself. I find it not at all surprising that so much of his money goes to places like Media Matters and NPR. I didn’t watch the clip above or see the show. If those two said that Soros is directly responsible, then yeah, they have no absolute proof. Safe to say, though, with his huge donation that Soros clearly endorses the firing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dane-Jackson/1140902213 Dane Jackson

    wats wrong with the video, it plays but it sounds distorted.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    “Juan has been a staunch defender of liberal viewpoints since his tenure began at FOX News in 1997,” said Ailes.

    This is why I am glad Juan took the hit. Statements like this insult me when it has been painfully obvious Juan has been a toad for the Right all along. I feel the same way about Juan that you guys on the Right feel about Kathleen Parker. I reckon you can relate to that.

    If you want to “defend the liberal viewpoint” please get real liberals and not right of center moderates kthx.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Andy Lamb said:
    Hardly a bunch of nonsense, just a bunch of historical facts and quotes helping illustrate what a bag of human shit Soros is. It is crystal clear that he has complete disdain for this country, he pretty much said so himself. I find it not at all surprising that so much of his money goes to places like Media Matters and NPR. I didn’t watch the clip above or see the show. If those two said that Soros is directly responsible, then yeah, they have no absolute proof. Safe to say, though, with his huge donation that Soros clearly endorses the firing.

    Dude I don’t give a shit what you think of Soros. I was asking for direct evidence he got got Juan Williams fired so until you can provide that stfu tyvm.

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    It has a lot to do with the shabby way he was treated.

    I’m sure it was a horrible 12 hours ordeal

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    This is why I am glad Juan took the hit.

    Spoken like a true, hateful, liberal, son of a bitch. Another reason why normals have such contempt for your kind.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Spoken like a true, hateful, liberal, son of a bitch. Another reason why normals have such contempt for your kind.

    lolol

  • Azarkhan

    This has a Ridley Scott feel to it, except no one in 1984 was too worried about China.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTSQozWP-rM&feature=player_embedded

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Dude I don’t give a shit what you think of Soros. I was asking for direct evidence he got got Juan Williams fired so until you can provide that stfu tyvm.

    Dude, I know you don’t care what I think of Soros, again, sorry, just wanted to clearly illustrate what an asshole he is.

    I just watched the entire piece. O’Reilly brought up the fact that Soros money ($1.8 million) that went to NPR, and a week later Williams got fired. Strange_F-ing_Coincidence. Williams agreed it seemed strange with the “money talks” comment. Perfectly fair to suggest that Soros had a hand in it. Neither O’Reilly or Williams directly said that Soros got him fired. Not a damn thing wrong with what they said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Even a lot of liberals are saying how fucked up NPR is for firing Williams. Anyone with half an objective brain agrees with that. Who cares, no one gives two shits about or listens to NPR anyway.

  • Seeing November From My Window

    Big_F-ing_Deal says:
    So O’Reilly can just spout that this was a conspiracy brought about by direct pressuring from George Soros without providing one bit of evidence? And Juan agrees that Soros was pulling the “puppet strings”?
    Fox new “journalism” at it’s best!!

    Most of us learned to do dot to dots in pre-school. Not surprised you can’t keep up.

  • Kird

    man, I love how fucking hateful it is on this site.

  • sticks

    Alot of people (liberals), seem to be asking for proof/evidence that Soros had anything to do with it… Well, If it looks like a duck, you know the rest… How is this different than saying the teaparty is racist ?… Which all of you liberals seem to let roll off your toungues with no proof whatsoever… I’ll tell you how its different… Its a gazillion times more likely that Soros has a hand in this, than it is likey that the overwhelming majority of the teaparty is racist… Not to mention, at least the teaparty is actually American !!!… Why is Soros even here ?… What the F is it to him what goes on here ?… I try to be objective most of the time, but I actually HATE that fing Soros… He doesnt give 2 chits about social justice, but he thinks he can make a killing on it here, in America, if he can get it implemented… I dont need proof to figure this out… All a person needs to do is follow the money… Simple huh ?

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Andy Lamb said:
    O’Reilly brought up the fact that Soros money ($1.8 million) that went to NPR, and a week later Williams got fired.

    Well, a couple of positive comes out of this whole episode. Williams is an instant celebrity, and will make a lot of money in speaking appearances and book deals. The big positive, however, is that _lots_ of people who weren’t exactly aware of the far left’s all out assault on the free press will soon be. The left’s embrace of East German style thought control is repugnant to normal people, and this will only bring to light to many people that Soros and other far left power brokers loathe regular citizens, interested only in their own power, money, and influence.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing November From My Window said:
    Most of us learned to do dot to dots in pre-school.

    Dots ain’t evidence Braniac.
    I’m still waiting for evidence, not dots or coincidences.
    I would settle for a couple of independent sources verifying O’Reillys charges.
    You do know what sources are, don’t you?
    It’s what real journalists use before they start spouting accusations.

    If anyone has any REAL evidence please mail it ot me aat:

    Mr Lefty McGee

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Mr Lefty McGee
    123 Liberal Street
    San Francisco, CA

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    It’s what real journalists use before they start spouting accusations.

    You mean like when Rachel Maddow falsely accused a Republican congressman of having “prior notice” of the Oklahoma City bombing?

    Wake up, liberals! Your self-righteousness and constant claims of victimization are all bullshit. We know it. You know it. The American people know it. That’s why you’re losing the debate.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    AnonymousFinch said:
    You mean like when Rachel Maddow falsely accused a Republican congressman of having “prior notice” of the Oklahoma City bombing?

    Wake up, liberals! Your self-righteousness and constant claims of victimization are all bullshit. We know it. You know it. The American people know it. That’s why you’re losing the debate.

    She was wrong, I condemn it, and she apologized the next day.

    I’ll be waiting for solid proof or an apology from Fox tomorrow!!

  • Seeing November From My Window

    Big_F-ing_Deal seems upset that the public is waking up to what’s going on with the left. He seems aware that they have stepped in it big time. Sorry, but that genie can’t be put back into the bottle.

  • cd ohio

    one quick question. do you have the right to be a bigot, not at work but home nowhite/black people inside, in yard, talk to at stores?

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    BTW, Rachel Maddow sucks. She is all snark, sarcasm and facial tics like Glenn Beck and I don’t understand how anyone could watch either.

    And yeah, that was a fucking amateur mistake she made and she should be embarrassed for herself.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing November From My Window said:
    Big_F-ing_Deal seems upset that the public is waking up to what’s going on with the left. He seems aware that they have stepped in it big time. Sorry, but that genie can’t be put back into the bottle.

    lol dream on.
    No matter how well the Right does on Nov 2nd all it will mean is the country will go back to being equally divided down the middle instead of the Dems having the advantage.

    Don’t forget, the GOP polls worse than EVERYONE, the Tea Party, the Dems, Obama, Palin, even Nancy Pelosi!!! lolol

  • juan

    NPR, MediaMatters, Soros, HuffPo, MoveOn, and the other Soros minions did not expect this to be a Big Deal!

    This has BACK-FIRED on ‘em BIG TIME!

    Thanks, Juan Williams.

    I can see November from my window!

  • http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

    Hammer_You said:
    FUCK NPR and that shiller bitch is one ugly whore

    IT SPEAKS VERY HIGHLY OF THE TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS ON THIS SITE THAT THIS COMMENT HAS SO MANY “THUMBS UP”!!!!!!!1111 WE RIGHT-THINKING AMERICANS HAVE THE KIND OF WIT, MATURITY, AND INTELLIGENCE THAT THE WHINY LIBS ONLY WISH THEY HAD!!!!1111

    AND HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS-LOCK DAY, EVERYBODY!!!!!111

  • RazorsEdge

    Glenn Davis said:
    It’s rare that so many people on both sides of the political aisle will agree with an O’Reilly segment, but Williams’ firing was almost universally panned, and frankly, O’Reilly’s savaging gave NPR’s decision what it deserved.

    Well said Mr. Davis. It’s rare these days that many across ideologies would agree on a specific “political” move. In this case It’s BS to not assess the termination as not “political”. Refresing to observe that many on both sides of ideology would agree that the termination of Juan Williams was not the most prudent or powerful way to handle by NPR.

    Ms. Schiller, although she has the authority to have terminated Juan Williams, only made it worse for NPR’s position with her multiple attempts to explain why they terminated. Her explanations only provided more ammunition on why this has become somewhat bipartisian against NPR.

  • the real john t

    Yes, this will probably work out for O’Reilly as good as his boycott on France did. At least he said his boycott on France worked, because he read it in the Paris Business Review, a paper that doesn’t even exist. What an idiot.

  • Michael_T

    Whether it’s Rick Sanchez’ and Helen Thomas’ negative comments about Jews, or Juan Williams’ comments about Muslims, you take a big risk when you make statements which your employer may deem inappropriate.

    This is especially true when your employer has a stake in protecting the group you so recklessly offended … just ask Don Imus.

    This is not about political correctness run amok or “lefties” at NPR. It is about showing respect for those with different cultural or religious beliefs and NOT about democrats and republicans or liberals and conservatives.

    We can have an honest debate about whether Hearst, CNN or NPR overreacted. But what is indisputable is that Thomas, Sanchez and Williams must have known (or should have known) that what they were about to say would be viewed negatively by many – even if those objecting were not in the majority.

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  • sarainitaly

    Calvin said:
    Is anybody else having troubles with the clip? For some reason it sounds like Satan is speaking instead of Bill O’Reilly and Juan Williams. It’s probably George Soros’ doing. He’s trying to demonize them. Literally.

    yes, it totally sounds like satan!

  • VRWC Destruction Machine

    chucken said:
    OK Williams did get screwed by NPR but does Fox really think it’s white teabagger viewers want to hear endless stories about a black kinda liberal pundit being a victim? This story goes away on Friday.But Muslim racist bashing by Fox will go on and on.

    Given the fact that CAIR pressured NPR to take action, Muslim “bashing” will intensify. CAIR has a history of being a supporter of ISLAMIC terrorism. This “bashing”, or I’d prefer mistrust, you speak of is due the actions done by people in the name of Islam. A Pew research study doesn’t help the cause of the peaceful Muslim when the survey says Muslim immigrants put Islam first before any loyalty to the host country.

    What you fail to realize, Islamic radicals have changed our way of life and so called moderates have done nothing to ease that feeling of uneasiness. Mosques and Muslim clerics continue to churn out fanatical terrorists bent on disrupting our everyday lives.

    There are a billion Muslims worldwide. People say the majority of Muslims are peace loving and reject terrorism. That belief amongst non-Muslims is hard to accept since Islamic terrorism festers around the world. Islamic terrorism wouldn’t exist if those billion Muslims stood with the rest of the world and said enough.

    Juan Williams’ feelings about Muslims at an airport are feelings shared by a large majority air travelers in a post-9/11 world. Air travelers are reminded of 9/11 every time they must go through security checks at an airport and the inconvenience of unreasonable early check in.

    You are a victim of your own ignorance. You blame Fox News and the Tea Party Movement for Muslim “bashing”. Wouldn’t the Fort Hood Massacre, the Times Square Bomber, the Shoe Bomber, the Underwear bomber, the New York City subway bomb plot by Najibullah Zazi be a factor in Muslim mistrust?

    Fun facts for the Islamic terrorist denier: In the United States, from 1970 to 1978, 72 people were killed in terrorist incidents, more than five times the number killed by jihadists since 9–11.

  • NORBIT

    Welcome to OBAMA’S AMERICA!

    NPR is Your Future if you give the Marxists any more power by voting for A DEMOCRAT!

  • TfT

    Cokie Roberts and her husband both work for NPR do they not? And yet, they dish out opinion on a regular basis on ABC This Week. How come they are still employed? Oh, I know, they play the liberal game and trash the tea partiers. So, that’s OK.

    The worst offender of course is Nina, who is still employed by NPR, and who has dished out so much hate speech it is pathetic.

  • NORBIT

    NPR’s Nina Totenberg:

    (referring to a US Senator):
    “If there’s retributive justice, he’ll get aids from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.”

    Nina Totenberg WASN’T FIRED, and still works for NPR.

    Nina Totenberg is white.
    Juan Williams is not white.

  • valkyrie101

    No question that Juan should not have been fired, however, it is the perogative of any station to do that if they feel their agreed upon rules have been compromised. And since Juan (to his credit in my opinion) has been walking a tight rope for a long time over at FOX, who in this case was defending O’Reilly for he previously equating Islam itself with terror, finally reacted by firing Juan. Certainly NPR’s right. How is Juan’s firing any different than the firing of Helen Thomas who the right demanded to be fired and kicked out of the WH briefing room?

  • valkyrie101

    You have got to love FOX for taking these thorny issues to the forefront of public discussion. Bravo.

  • TfT

    Well, for one Helen Thomas quit, she wasn’t fired. She may have been forced to quit, but a firing is not on her record.

  • NORBIT

    Keep the story going FOX!

    This is the kind of Country you get if you vote Democratic!! – George Soros & C.A.I.R. determining what you can & can’t say!!!

    ———————————————–

    Let’s get a few updates on the Victory Mosque before elections, as well!!

  • valkyrie101

    TfT said:
    Well, for one Helen Thomas quit, she wasn’t fired. She may have been forced to quit, but a firing is not on her record.

    True, but the right strongly endorsed her departure and castigated her to no end on FOX, and right here at mediaite, for expressing her controversial opinion on Jews. But Juan gets a pass, in your opinion, because, afterall, Islam is a terrorist religion and all Islamics are suspect terrorists?

  • TfT

    NPR digging a deeper hole for themselves with the latest Ombudsman statement. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

  • TfT

    val, it doesn’t matter. The fact is that Juan was fired and Helen wasn’t.

    Why wasn’t Cokie Roberts fired, or her husband, or Nina? Because they don’t go on FNC but spew their opinions on other networks.

  • NORBIT

    If you like the worldviews of Soros & C.A.I.R. – YOU’LL LOVE NPR!!

    How many plan on cutting their contributions to this propaganda mill?

  • valkyrie101

    TfT said:
    val, it doesn’t matter. The fact is that Juan was fired and Helen wasn’t. Why wasn’t Cokie Roberts fired, or her husband, or Nina? Because they don’t go on FNC but spew their opinions on other networks.

    I think my point relates more to the outrage expressed at the time from the right. Thomas agreed to quit because of that. She was already being hammered before she quit. Why outrage for Thomas from the right, but nothing but a complete defense for Juan and O’Reilly who seem to be suggesting that the problem with terrorism relates to Islam itself, not just a relative handful of crazies, and that all Islamics should be feared as potential terrorists.

  • Hugo Daun

    Seeing November From My Window said:
    Most of us learned to do dot to dots in pre-school.

    Would your “guesstimate” be about 90% learn their dot-to-dots in preschool?

  • valkyrie101

    NORBIT said:
    If you like the worldviews of Soros & C.A.I.R. – YOU’LL LOVE NPR!! How many plan on cutting their contributions to this propaganda mill?

    Norbit, I thought you didn’t like sponsor boycotts? But hey, they have an opening over at mediamatters in their new Soros funded “go after the Glenn Beck sponsors” initiative. LOL.

  • NORBIT

    valkyrie101 said:
    Norbit, I thought you didn’t like sponsor boycotts? But hey, they have an opening over at mediamatters in their new Soros funded “go after the Glenn Beck sponsors” initiative. LOL.

    These are private donations, not sponsors; a publicly-funded entity; and I have no problem with boycotts, as long as their based in fact & principle.
    —————————————————-

    Obama’s America = Soros-C.A.I.R. & NPR! —– still “proud” to be a Democrat in 2010 America?

  • Azarkhan

    valkyrie101 said:
    Why outrage for Thomas from the right, but nothing but a complete defense for Juan and O’Reilly who seem to be suggesting that the problem with terrorism relates to Islam itself,

    Obviously you didn’t listen to the entire discussion between Juan Williams and Bill O’Reilly. Williams was not agreeing with O’Reily at all. But I’ll let the Morning Joe crew break it down for you. As Joe Scarborough, anyone with a third grade education can understand it.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/morning-joe-is-on-team-juan-williams-but-donny-deutsch-still-thinks-oreilly-is-a-jackass/

  • bettyejones

    Juan Williams agrees with O’Reily, slams the head of NPR, and visibly upset that he has worked over 10 years to help NPR. Where is Jesse Jackson, where is Al Sharpton coming to defend him, where is the NAACP, I predict they won’t do anything about it because Juan Williams , agrees with O’Reilly and FOX news.
    http://knightsticksecigarettes.com/

  • NORBIT

    Tawana Sharpton is a Left-Wing Media-Created “civil rights leader”.

    With Tawana, it’s not “civil rights”; it’s “ANTI-WHITE”!

    With all of NPR’s top management being WHITE, and NPR taking no action against WHITE correspondents, and Juan Williams being black, the question is “WHERE’s TAWANA?”

  • Azarkhan

    As predicted, the Democrats will try to steal as many elections as they can:

    A local government in Illinois is warning about potential voting fraud in the Chicago area, noting two election voters were convicted of such fraud just last spring.

    The warning, from the director of elections for Cook County, Ill., raises the prospect that voter fraud could become a potential problem in the race and contradicts Illinois Democratic Senate candidate Alexi Giannoulias, who was dismissive of the issue at a recent debate.

    Cook County includes Chicago and surrounding suburbs.

    “This past spring, two election workers were prosecuted by the State’s Attorney General and convicted of vote fraud for violating voter privacy by supervising voters as they completed ballots,” a memo from Cook County’s director of elections, Jan Kralovee, says.

    At an Oct. 19 debate, Giannoulias slammed his Republican opponent, Rep. Mark Kirk, for his “voter integrity” program that is intended to prevent voting fraud.

    “There’s never been an accusation of fraud on the West and South side of Chicago … you’re trying to suppress the African-American vote,” Giannoulias said….

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/22/cook-county-voting-fraud-could-pose-threat-in-illinois-senate-race/#ixzz135dNasG9

  • NORBIT

    Azarkhan said:
    As predicted, the Democrats will try to steal as many elections as they can: A local government in Illinois is warning about potential voting fraud in the Chicago area, noting two election voters were convicted of such fraud just last spring. The warning, from the director of elections for Cook County, Ill., raises the prospect that voter fraud could become a potential problem in the race and contradicts Illinois Democratic Senate candidate Alexi Giannoulias, who was dismissive of the issue at a recent debate. Cook County includes Chicago and surrounding suburbs. “This past spring, two election workers were prosecuted by the State’s Attorney General and convicted of vote fraud for violating voter privacy by supervising voters as they completed ballots,” a memo from Cook County’s director of elections, Jan Kralovee, says. At an Oct. 19 debate, Giannoulias slammed his Republican opponent, Rep. Mark Kirk, for his “voter integrity” program that is intended to prevent voting fraud. “There’s never been an accusation of fraud on the West and South side of Chicago … you’re trying to suppress the African-American vote,” Giannoulias said…. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/22/cook-county-voting-fraud-could-pose-threat-in-illinois-senate-race/#ixzz135dNasG9

    Where is the Do-Nothing, Inept GOP? Where’s Michael Steele? Boehner? – Anyone to galvanize the National Issues of this election!

    Clearly, no sane person can vote Democratic, given the threat to freedom today’s Democrats represent; but the GOP offers only a slightly better choice!

  • NORBIT

    Today: Juan Williams.

    Tomorrow: SHARIA LAW!!
    ———————————–

    With two more years of Obama, voting for ANY DEMOCRAT can make this happen!

  • CosmosDan

    NORBIT said:
    Today: Juan Williams.

    Tomorrow: SHARIA LAW!!
    ———————————–

    With two more years of Obama, voting for ANY DEMOCRAT can make this happen!

    That sounds like a cool name for a show about Muslim lawyer, which would also be some fiction

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    “This past spring, two election workers were prosecuted by the State’s Attorney General and convicted of vote fraud for violating voter privacy by supervising voters as they completed ballots,” a memo from Cook County’s director of elections, Jan Kralovee, says.

    Were they hovering? I read in another thread that hovering isn’t really a problem even when you get multiple complaints.

  • CosmosDan

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    BTW, Rachel Maddow sucks. She is all snark, sarcasm and facial tics like Glenn Beck and I don’t understand how anyone could watch either.

    And yeah, that was a fucking amateur mistake she made and she should be embarrassed for herself.

    and she did acknowledge it and thanked those that pointed it out. It’s not nearly the big deal it’s been made out to be, but by god WE CAN MAKE IT INTO ONE. {not you}

  • CosmosDan

    AnonymousFinch said:
    You mean like when Rachel Maddow falsely accused a Republican congressman of having “prior notice” of the Oklahoma City bombing?

    Still harping on that? She made a mistake, acknowledged it as a mistake the next day. That’s what grownups do.

  • CosmosDan

    Calvin said:
    Is anybody else having troubles with the clip? For some reason it sounds like Satan is speaking instead of Bill O’Reilly and Juan Williams. It’s probably George Soros’ doing. He’s trying to demonize them. Literally.

    Tried it several times and got the same thing. Slo Mo

  • valkyrie101

    NORBIT said:
    These are private donations, not sponsors; a publicly-funded entity; and I have no problem with boycotts, as long as their based in fact & principle.—————————————————- Obama’s America = Soros-C.A.I.R. & NPR! —– still “proud” to be a Democrat in 2010 America?

    Same thing. Its called going after the money sponsorship to stifle expression.

  • CosmosDan

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130713285

    Here’s an article from an Ombudsman from NPR, explaining in detail the same thing that was said. Williams had been warned before about personal comments he had made on Fox. He admits that the firing was handled badly but certainly isn’t a 1st amendment issue. All professional journalist should know that when you choose that profession and sign a contract you have to watch what you say ,especially on a nationally broadcast network.

    Did either Williams or ORiely acknowledge that as a journalistic standard? Not that I saw. It’s much better to make it into some liberal plot to violate free speech, which is nothing but bullshit.

    Now that the controversy is out there Fox has a chance to have a meaningful discussion about the irrational fear Williams mentioned and the rise in anti Muslim sentiment. It has an opportunity to let Muslim Americans come on and discuss how anti Muslim sentiment has affected them. Something Megyn Kelly simply blew past when Hooper mentioned it. Instead, it’s a golden opportunity to slam liberals, and likely feed the fire of anti Muslim fear by talking about our “Muslim problem” without discussing how damaging it can be and how irrational. Let’s see what this next week brings.

  • Papa Smear

    C’mon NPR, women up, fire Vivian.

  • Pablo

    The NPR ombudsman is either incredibly stupid or an outright liar.

    Later in that segment, Williams did challenge O’Reilly’s apparent contention that every Muslim on the planet is an extremist bent on attacking America.

    That characterization is absolute bullshit, and if Alicia Shepard doesn’t know it, she’s dumb as a stump.

  • Pablo

    CosmosDan said:
    Still harping on that? She made a mistake, acknowledged it as a mistake the next day. That’s what grownups do.

    Oh, like Breitbart! Maddowed will make a nice verb, don’t you think?

  • http://Race4Congress.com Magister

    @CosmosDan: The Williams story will be gone after Sunday “Reliable Sources” and in the meantime, Fox can only pay enough lip service to what was actually said to keep their audience reminded. After all, something upon which most of them would agree doesn’t make for good ratings — it lacks drama — and though it may only be a secondary consideration, but their largest non-Murdoch stockholder is a fellow in Muslim garb.

  • CosmosDan

    Pablo said:
    The NPR ombudsman is either incredibly stupid or an outright liar.

    That characterization is absolute bullshit, and if Alicia Shepard doesn’t know it, she’s dumb as a stump.

    No it isn’t bullshit. He’s not saying ORielly actually made such a contention. He’s talking about his view comment and how, without a qualifier, it can be construed to include all Muslims. That’s exactly what Williams was talking about. That’s why it’s his “apparent” contention, rather than just his contention.

  • Pablo

    No it isn’t bullshit. He’s not saying ORielly actually made such a contention.

    First off, he is a she. Secondly, what part of “O’Reilly’s apparent contention that every Muslim on the planet is an extremist bent on attacking America.” do you not understand?

  • CosmosDan

    Magister said:
    @CosmosDan: The Williams story will be gone after Sunday “Reliable Sources” and in the meantime, Fox can only pay enough lip service to what was actually said to keep their audience reminded. After all, something upon which most of them would agree doesn’t make for good ratings — it lacks drama — and though it may only be a secondary consideration, but their largest non-Murdoch stockholder is a fellow in Muslim garb.

    Good point. You may be right. ORielly has vowed not to let it go and to go after NPR, without any acknowledgment that journalist actually do sign contracts that limit their on air personal opinions.

    I don’t mind ORielly but since his view appearance he’s refused to see exactly why he’s been repeatedly incorrect on that subject. Now that he has someone to vent his righteous indignation on he won’t have to.

    I was amused to see Williams use a similar comparison to ones I’ve made in trying to explain why Bill’s View comment was inappropriate. I guess it made sense when Williams said it.

  • CosmosDan

    Pablo said:
    First off, he is a she. Secondly, what part of “O’Reilly’s apparent contention that every Muslim on the planet is an extremist bent on attacking America.” do you not understand?

    I don’t think I’m the one that misunderstood but if it’s an issue for you feel free to email that person and ask for an explanation. Other than that I don’t give a crap what your interpretation is.

  • Pablo

    CosmosDan said:
    Other than that I don’t give a crap what your interpretation is.

    Then you probably ought not argue with it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thorkil-Kowalski-Vrge/566276352 Thorkil Kowalski Værge

    Great segment and I think I agree with pretty much everything Bill O’Reilly said.

    One thing is clear, though. You do not want to be in O’Reilly’s black book.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    George Soros? Why are people upset that a rich White guy gives to liberal causes? Is it the novelty, because rich white guys usually support RIGHT WINGED causes? Richard Melon Scaife, the Koch Brothers, T. Boone Pickens, etc?

    bettyejones said:
    Juan Williams agrees with O’Reily, slams the head of NPR, and visibly upset that he has worked over 10 years to help NPR. Where is Jesse Jackson, where is Al Sharpton coming to defend him, where is the NAACP, I predict they won’t do anything about it because Juan Williams , agrees with O’Reilly and FOX news.http://knightsticksecigarettes.com/

    Are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton the only Black folks you guys know? LOL.
    Besides, if Juan Williams is SO DAMNED WONDERFUL, TALENTED and BELOVED at Fox News, why doesn’t he have his own show yet?
    You know why. The Fox News audience will accept a chip or two in their cookies, but a full brownie is out of the question.

    –Cobra

  • Stratdude

    Any journalistic integrity Williams may have had is now moot as he has embraced wallowing in the fox news sewer full time.

  • writer

    Why are people upset that a rich White guy gives to liberal causes?

    For the same reason you’re upset when rich guys give to conservatives.

  • valkyrie101

    Azarkhan said:
    Obviously you didn’t listen to the entire discussion between Juan Williams and Bill O’Reilly. Williams was not agreeing with O’Reily at all. But I’ll let the Morning Joe crew break it down for you. As Joe Scarborough, anyone with a third grade education can understand it. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/morning-joe-is-on-team-juan-williams-but-donny-deutsch-still-thinks-oreilly-is-a-jackass/

    Juan spoke inartfully. He certainly was not meaning to insult Islamics, in general, by what he said. He was actually trying to reel Bill in by acknowledging that there is some basis for fear, and that that fear is natural, even among those who are clearly not bigots, but then Bill went off on another anti-Islam rant and Juan’s point was left incomplete. He needed to say that despising all Islamics, even those who offend people by wearing their traditional attire and otherwise “flaunt” being Islamic in the airport, is not justified, in the same way that despising an entire race is not justified even though they cause much of the violent crime. That’s not being “politically incorrect” by stating the truth, it is just wrong. Juan missed a great opportunity but it was not his fault.

    Why then was he fired? When Juan was introduced O’Reilly emphasized that he works for NPR, and Bill used that to frame Juan’s view as that of the NPR crowd. Given what Juan said and what he has said on other issues as a commentator on FOX, NPR does not like itself giving credibility to Juan, and especially to FOX. Thus, they had to fire Juan to protect the station’s integrity.

  • CosmosDan

    Stratdude said:
    Any journalistic integrity Williams may have had is now moot as he has embraced wallowing in the fox news sewer full time.

    As someone who leans liberal I am embarrassed by this type of crap. Maybe we can stop being monkeys in the zoo, and find something constructive to do. Time to stop the shit slinging.

  • Michael_T

    Don’t know why, but this has been a more balanced thread at the right-leaning mediaite.com with good points from both political perspectives … and comparatively few personal attacks.

    Kudos to you all (or at least most of you).

    Wish this signaled a trend, but I’m not holding my breath.

    I will certainly relish the moment and the many excellent comments.

  • VRWC Destruction Machine

    valkyrie101 said:
    True, but the right strongly endorsed her departure and castigated her to no end on FOX, and right here at mediaite, for expressing her controversial opinion on Jews. But Juan gets a pass, in your opinion, because, afterall, Islam is a terrorist religion and all Islamics are suspect terrorists?

    Thomas based her opinion on hate. Williams based his opinion on the reality of the situation.

  • Pablo

    valkyrie101 said:
    Juan spoke inartfully.

    No he didn’t. He violated political correctness. Good for him.

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