hell the only one that talks about the birther shit more than Trump is chris matthews

Delicious red meat…
Show the hospital Birth Certificate and this all goes away…
Is it right for POTUS to tease the public?

Is this the 100th Trump birther story at Mediaite? Or is it the 1,000th? Or maybe the 1,000,000th? Mediaite, a once promising web site, sinks into triviality and mindlessness.

Let me predict: the Democrats will get destroyed in next year’s election. And NOT because of the President’s birth certificate. Rather it will be due to the concerted effort by liberal media and pundits to avoid serious issues and instead attempt to turn the election into a referendum on triviality. It didn’t work last year, with the brain-dead WITCHCRAFT IN DELAWARE obsession, which the Left took on instead of defending the Democrat agenda and track record. And it won’t work in this next election either.

In short, the more you try to keep the attention on this dead, unimportant story, the more you look like sad clowns. And the voters can see through this charade in a New York minute.

What Trump ought to do is say no more questions concerning ” The Life And Times Of The possibly Secret Muslim President “. Instead he should send a contingent to all the places that Barack may or may not been born, lived along with doing an exhaustive forensic investigation, including people, places and things the ” LION KING ” may have and or should have come in contact with in the past.

He could even do it as a weekly ” Where’s Barackio ” cable series. This way the ” real ” American people, as well as the liberals can follow along on the presidents long strange trip from his perported ‘ live birth ‘, thru the early years, than the herculian task of swimming to America, his dabbling in communism, black activism dayz, all the way on up to his present day coup, and taking over the White House.

Then and only then ( once the entire ” The Life And Times Of The possibly Secret Muslim President ” ) airs and is out on DVD should THe Donald once more to discuss the subject.

We had better all be birthers. Now and forever. When we allow someone to run for the highest office in our nation – we had better do our research and investigate their resume very closely. And if a candidate has gone above and beyond in …expense to hide the facts on themselves we should not accept that candidate’s request to run for ANY office in the United States of America. Here is a list of the biggest con men in US history:
Barrack H Obummer
Donald Trump
Frank Abignail

Oh, for the love of…Tommy, some advice, stop trying to write funny. You aren’t funny. Stop. It’s pathetic.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general’s office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of “vital records,” including an original “record of live birth” — even to the individual whose birth it records

Seriously? The claim is that the government can’t release the papers… to ANYONE… ever? That doesn’t make a lot of sense. In that case, why even have them keep the records in the first place? Why not just destroy them upon collection, and save all that storage space.

Donald: Barry can not produce his BC! And all the MSM fawning over Barry won’t produce it either!

felixw said:
Is this the 100th Trump birther story at Mediaite? Or is it the 1,000th? Or maybe the 1,000,000th? Mediaite, a once promising web site, sinks into triviality and mindlessness.

Let me predict: the Democrats will get destroyed in next year’s election. And NOT because of the President’s birth certificate. Rather it will be due to the concerted effort by liberal media and pundits to avoid serious issues and instead attempt to turn the election into a referendum on triviality. It didn’t work last year, with the brain-dead WITCHCRAFT IN DELAWARE obsession, which the Left took on instead of defending the Democrat agenda and track record. And it won’t work in this next election either.

In short, the more you try to keep the attention on this dead, unimportant story, the more you look like sad clowns. And the voters can see through this charade in a New York minute.

There’s validity in some of what you say, but the idea that the left is somehow responsible for the right’s birtherism is ludicrous. This crap is being peddled by conservatives, and believed by embarrassing numbers of Republicans. If Trump would stop talking about this for five seconds, there’d be nothing to report.

However, you’re right about the Democrats’ failure in the midterms, they did nothing to differentiate themselves from the opposition, and relied on wingnuttery to defeat the Republicans, and you’re right, they will have to make an affirmative case for people to vote for them in 2012, which they are not doing.

I can see why. You’re starting to look like an idiot.

Ex-Hawaii official denounces ‘ludicrous’ birther claims

http://tinyurl.com/3m7wja5

cjd ohio 1 said:
hell the only one that talks about the birther shit more than Trump is chris matthews

and deflect … take 1

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general’s office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of “vital records,” including an original “record of live birth” — even to the individual whose birth it records.”

Totally false!

January 22, 2011

“State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws barred him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, a spokeswoman for the governor, Donalyn Dela Cruz, said Friday. ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/us/politics/23hawaii.html

I find it funny you can’t release your own legal Birth Certificate. That seems to provide Obama with the cover to evade the issue. I suspect it states he’s a muslim on it, as religion is included.

Tommy Christopher said:
There’s validity in some of what you say, but the idea that the left is somehow responsible for the right’s birtherism is ludicrous. This crap is being peddled by conservatives, and believed by embarrassing numbers of Republicans. If Trump would stop talking about this for five seconds, there’d be nothing to report. However, you’re right about the Democrats’ failure in the midterms, they did nothing to differentiate themselves from the opposition, and relied on wingnuttery to defeat the Republicans, and you’re right, they will have to make an affirmative case for people to vote for them in 2012, which they are not doing.

ellie said:
and deflect … take 1

all conservatives, like chris matthews lol, its all a political game folks you can’t see that, fear and questions, the right want to keep this shit alive and so does the left

Tommy Christopher said:
There’s validity in some of what you say, but the idea that the left is somehow responsible for the right’s birtherism is ludicrous.

Quick question… who talks about birthers more often, MSNBC or FNC?

That should be enough to show you how non-ludicrous that statement is.

This birther thing is working to perfection. Keep it up Trump.

rubberneck said:
I find it funny you can’t release your own legal Birth Certificate. That seems to provide Obama with the cover to evade the issue. I suspect it states he’s a muslim on it, as religion is included.

The only explanation is that Obama does not want the public to see what is on it…

cjd ohio 1 said:
all conservatives, like chris matthews lol, its all a political game folks you can’t see that, fear and questions, the right want to keep this shit alive and so does the left

And deflect …. take 2

cjd ohio 1 said:
all conservatives, like chris matthews lol, its all a political game folks you can’t see that, fear and questions, the right want to keep this shit alive and so does the left

Tommy, can’t you folks at Mediaite add a third check-off next to the two thumbs?
We need one that says, WHA?
Thanking you for your attention;
yr obdt. svt.
Glackin

Ah, yes, the Left is screaming ‘HYPOCRITE!’ Then there’s the big-eared cigarette smoker, who loves saying ‘Let me be clear’ when he’s anything but. Or, that little thing about the unemployment rate and would would happen to it IF ONLY we’d spend a trillion dollars on a ‘stimulus.’

Yes, Obamo the hypocrite.

The assertion below does not agree with prior reporting on the topic

“state law does not in fact permit the release of “vital records,” including an original “record of live birth” — even to the individual whose birth it records

“It’s a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody,” he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.”

see here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110122/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

HONOLULU – A privacy law that shields birth certificates has prompted Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Barack Obama was born outside Hawaii, his office says.

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

ImNotBlue said:
Quick question… who talks about birthers more often, MSNBC or FNC?

and deflect … take 3

cjd ohio 1 said:
all conservatives, like chris matthews lol, its all a political game folks you can’t see that, fear and questions, the right want to keep this shit alive and so does the left

Yoda002 said:
This birther thing is working to perfection. Keep it up Trump.

perfect example

ellie said:
And deflect …. take 2

lol

felixw said:
In short, the more you try to keep the attention on this dead, unimportant story, the more you look like sad clowns. And the voters can see through this charade in a New York minute.

Yeah, why is Mediaite always hyping this story? Trump is irrelevant.

Except for this, of course….

According to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, Trump is the second choice of self-identified Republicans to represent the party in 2012.

ellie said:
and deflect … take 3

are you really that stupid, are you such a hack you believe just the left wingers, the truth is in the middle, you are just as bad as the ones that get their news from rush and hannity lol

name 1 person more stupid and annoying than trump

ChrisNH said:
Ah, yes, the Left is screaming ‘HYPOCRITE!’ Then there’s the big-eared cigarette smoker, who loves saying ‘Let me be clear’ when he’s anything but. Or, that little thing about the unemployment rate and would would happen to it IF ONLY we’d spend a trillion dollars on a ’stimulus.’

Yes, Obamo the hypocrite.

and deflect …. take 4

Joseph Glackin said:
Tommy, can’t you folks at Mediaite add a third check-off next to the two thumbs?We need one that says, WHA?Thanking you for your attention;yr obdt. svt.Glackin

you must be friends with ellie lol

ellie said:
and deflect … take 3

cjd ohio 1 said:
are you really that stupid, are you such a hack you believe just the left wingers, the truth is in the middle, you are just as bad as the ones that get their news from rush and hannity lol

perfect lol

A.R. said:
name 1 person more stupid and annoying than trump

chris matthews

TC,
As a “journalist” would you be at all interested in seeing the hospital Birth Certificate?

cjd ohio 1 said:
are you really that stupid, are you such a hack you believe just the left wingers, the truth is in the middle, you are just as bad as the ones that get their news from rush and hannity lol

Melodramatic scene …. take 1

ellie said:
Melodramatic scene …. take 1

no just a fact

There’s more to what Barry is hiding :

“Reviewing only the admissions of Barack Obama, we are told that Obama was born to U.S. citizen Stanley Ann Dunham, legally adopted by a foreign national named Lolo Soetoro, had taken the name Barry SOETORO, and was given Indonesian citizenship. He was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia, and attended a school there that accepted all faiths. At one point, Barry SOETORO moved to Hawaii to reside with his grandparents after Lolo SOETORO and Stanley Ann DUNHAM divorced. Obama completed high school as Barry SOETORO Much is missing from his early years, including a legal name change from Barry SOETORO to Barack Hussein Obama II. Absent of any document to show the legal process of a name change within the U.S., it is likely that the man sitting in the Oval Office is, in fact, Barry SOETORO.”

“The above would also serve to explain the discrepancies with his social security number and region of issuance… ”

If Tommy knows any journalists with guts , he could pass this along . Barry never changed his name back to Obama . He went to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport . He first entered college as Barry Soetoro , probably got foreign student aid . He’s likely still legally Barry Soetoro . It will come out one day .

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35298

felixw said:
Is this the 100th Trump birther story at Mediaite? Or is it the 1,000th? Or maybe the 1,000,000th? Mediaite, a once promising web site, sinks into triviality and mindlessness.

Let me predict: the Democrats will get destroyed in next year’s election. And NOT because of the President’s birth certificate. Rather it will be due to the concerted effort by liberal media and pundits to avoid serious issues and instead attempt to turn the election into a referendum on triviality. It didn’t work last year, with the brain-dead WITCHCRAFT IN DELAWARE obsession, which the Left took on instead of defending the Democrat agenda and track record. And it won’t work in this next election either.

In short, the more you try to keep the attention on this dead, unimportant story, the more you look like sad clowns. And the voters can see through this charade in a New York minute.

Actually, the idea is to get the most extreme candidate to get the GOP nomination. Democrats will get destroyed? Have you seen how fast the approval rating of those newly elected GOP Governors (Walker, Snyder, Scott, Kasich et al) has dropped in 3 months?
GOP is in for a rough ride….and they know it. Why do you think they keep postponing when they’ll announce?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/31/wheres-field-2012-republicans-slow-plunge/

Come on Donald. Keep talking about the birth certificate for another year and a half or so and you’ll catch up to the amount of time spent talking about it by the wingnuts @ MSNBC.

Donald Trump is an IDIOT and anyone who buys this birther crap is also an IDIOT, especially faced with overwhelming evidence available.

Stupidity is not a staple of just the Right or the Left, but to keep talking about something that’s not important when unemployment is 9% and the Gov’t almost shutdown is ludicrous.

Once again, there you have it! Now, you ignorant sore losers should just move on. You’re spending precious time on a question that has been repeatedly answered. You’d better find a viable candidate because right now it appears that you’re about to get crushed again come 2012. Remember, that unlike the midterms, the Presidential election will see the same number of voters as 2008.

An Idea said:
He’s likely still legally Barry Soetoro . It will come out one day .

Well that would be world changing.

cjd ohio 1 said:
you must be friends with ellie lol

perfect lol

Haven’t had the pleasure. Just could not understand WTF you were trying to say.
Wanted a way to express that. Sort of like the Scots’ verdict, “Not Proven”.
I suppose you could put WTF? up there, but WHA? seemed more friendly.

One thing we do know….HE’S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! HA!

skoorbekim said:
TC,
As a “journalist” would you be at all interested in seeing the hospital Birth Certificate?

Why would he be after the health department official (Fukino) has VERIFIED it’s existence? Furthermore, even if TC wanted to, under Hawaii law he can NOT see it. COLB IS the birth certificate.

Joseph Glackin said:
Haven’t had the pleasure. Just could not understand WTF you were trying to say.Wanted a way to express that. Sort of like the Scots’ verdict, “Not Proven”.I suppose you could put WTF? up there, but WHA? seemed more friendly.

lol, you are a facebook friend of hers, damn, now you are a proven liar

Obamabots voted for Obama to prove they’re not prejudiced.
Who will Obamabots vote for next time to prove they’re not stupid.

Anyone who thinks Obozo, who’s spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, fighting numerous eligibility lawsuits in numerous states, isn’t hiding something, is dumber than a box of rocks.

Trump show’d his, your turn, Hussein…

Can’t you just hear Obozo calling George Soros, “What do I do now, big daddy?” LMAO

Only 21 more months ’til we evict the incompetent, hypocritical, Marxist fool from the Oval Office & cancel “Amateur Hour” at the White House.

Let this buffoon go back to Chicago and see if he can manage a lemonade stand;
’cause he sure as hell doesn’t know what he’s doing in D.C.

As Margaret Thatcher once said, Socialism only works ’til you run out of other peoples’ money.

NOBAMA 2012

“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.” P.J.O’Rourke

skoorbekim said:
TC,
As a “journalist” would you be at all interested in seeing the hospital Birth Certificate?

Of course I would.

Gasket said:
Why would he be after the health department official (Fukino) has VERIFIED it’s existence? Furthermore, even if TC wanted to, under Hawaii law he can NOT see it. COLB IS the birth certificate.

All true, but I’d still cover it in a second if it was available.

I see the same critical thinking going on here as usual. Now, you pretend that you’ve gotten inside the head of every person that voted for Obama? It would appear that you’re in need of an extraction of your head from your ass. Perhaps the reason we voted for Obama over McCain and that dimwitted hillbilly was because they were the better choice. That their projection of what the country could be wasn’t based in fear and ignorance. And anyone who’d pick a dumb ass like Palin and stated publically that the “fundementals of our economy were strong” just before it crashed had no business even running? Obozo? That’s the extent of you intellect and attempt at weak ass humor better suited for a 14 year old. Or a Republican teabagger!

cjd ohio 1 said:
lol, you are a facebook friend of hers, damn, now you are a proven liar

Some weeks ago I explained to “bobmoses” that I rarely look at my Facebook page.
Nice to know others are keeping up with it for me. Guess I don’t have to.
P.S.– Get a life. One of your own.

Who here would not want to take a look at such a historical document?

What could be so embarrassing?

cjd ohio 1 said:
lol, you are a facebook friend of hers, damn, now you are a proven liar

Wow …

Tommy Christopher said:
All true, but I’d still cover it in a second if it was available.

Yes, well I assume it’s like any other privacy law where even journalists are not entitled to look at personal documents of anyone including the President. I assume that you’re not in doubt of it’s existence though? That would put you into a place I’m sure you don’t want to be. A birther!

Gasket said:
Fukino) has VERIFIED

Good enough for me///
I’ld rather see it…

Tommy Christopher said:
Of course I would.

Then ask to see it…

By the way, I mean “your intellect” in my prior comment.

“why doesn’t President Obama produce the long form birth certificate?”

Because they don’t issue long form birth certificates in Kenya?
Because it contains something that would be politically damaging to him?
Because it shows that Frank Marshall Davis is his real father?

No ones for sure…..and no one knows for sure if he meets the constitutional requirements to be POTUS because he refuses to release it!!

“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” ~ Obama

Joseph Glackin said:
Some weeks ago I explained to “bobmoses” that I rarely look at my Facebook page.Nice to know others are keeping up with it for me. Guess I don’t have to.P.S.– Get a life. One of your own.

ellie said:
Wow …

i like talking to ellie, she is just a bullshitter, but joe you are a liar so have a nice day sir

ellie said:
cjd ohio 1 said:
lol, you are a facebook friend of hers, damn, now you are a proven liar
Wow

and just so this doesn’t send you into another paranoid tail spin .. i have quite of few bloggers that I’ve friended on Facebook. That’s how I see when they post something. duh!

ellie said:
and just so this doesn’t send you into another paranoid tail spin .. i have quite of few bloggers that I’ve friended on Facebook. That’s how I see when they post something. duh!

was not direct to you, it was joe that was lying

directed

Tommy Christopher said:
All true, but I’d still cover it in a second if it was available.

This is a fairly significant discrepancy you should reconcile. Isikoff reports that the original can’t be released to anyone, including the person.

However, at AP and New York Times report that the origina certifiacte can be released with the subject person’s consent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/us/politics/23hawaii.html

HONOLULU (AP) — A privacy law that shields birth certificates has prompted Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Obama was born outside Hawaii, his office says.

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws barred him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, a spokeswoman for the governor, Donalyn Dela Cruz, said Friday.
. . .

But Mr. Abercrombie’s effort reached a dead end when Mr. Louie told him the law restricted his options.

Hawaii’s privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone without a tangible interest.

Joseph Glackin said:
Haven’t had the pleasure. Just could not understand WTF you were trying to say.Wanted a way to express that. Sort of like the Scots’ verdict, “Not Proven”.I suppose you could put WTF? up there, but WHA? seemed more friendly.

Joseph Glackin said:
Some weeks ago I explained to “bobmoses” that I rarely look at my Facebook page.Nice to know others are keeping up with it for me. Guess I don’t have to.P.S.– Get a life. One of your own.

just use it to log on to mediaite evey other day lol

An Idea said:
There’s more to what Barry is hiding :

“Reviewing only the admissions of Barack Obama, we are told that Obama was born to U.S. citizen Stanley Ann Dunham, legally adopted by a foreign national named Lolo Soetoro, had taken the name Barry SOETORO, and was given Indonesian citizenship. He was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia, and attended a school there that accepted all faiths. At one point, Barry SOETORO moved to Hawaii to reside with his grandparents after Lolo SOETORO and Stanley Ann DUNHAM divorced. Obama completed high school as Barry SOETORO Much is missing from his early years, including a legal name change from Barry SOETORO to Barack Hussein Obama II. Absent of any document to show the legal process of a name change within the U.S., it is likely that the man sitting in the Oval Office is, in fact, Barry SOETORO.”

“The above would also serve to explain the discrepancies with his social security number and region of issuance… ”

If Tommy knows any journalists with guts , he could pass this along . Barry never changed his name back to Obama . He went to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport . He first entered college as Barry Soetoro , probably got foreign student aid . He’s likely still legally Barry Soetoro . It will come out one day .

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35298

Stupid birthers. Can NOT even get the timeline right.

Reviewing only the admissions of Barack Obama, we are told that Obama was born to U.S. citizen Stanley Ann Dunham, legally adopted by a foreign national named Lolo Soetoro, had taken the name Barry SOETORO, and was given Indonesian citizenship

Any evidence to support your conspiracy theory? BTW, you do realize a minor can not relinquish his birthright American citizenship….right? Do you know what name is on Obama’s birth certificate? Hint: It’s not Soetoro. So, you are asking us to show documentation of Obama changing his name from Soetoro to Obama while indeed you should be providing the evidence that he legally changed it to Soetoro in the first place. I can show you the document showing what his name was after being born. I don’t need to show you evidence of something that did NOT happen, a theory you invented. Also, what makes you think Obama travelled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport? Entered college using foreign aid? That’s based on a false premise, one that you concocted, and you are asking us to prove it?

ellie said:
and deflect … take 3

Man, I’m really glad you’re around! Always telling us what we can and can’t talk about (can talk topics include: attacking FNC, Republicans, and people not on the left / cannot talk topics include: MSNBC, negative stories about Democrats, praising Republicans, and anyone who disagrees with ellie).

Glad you’re here… you’re really making a difference.

trident said:
This is a fairly significant discrepancy you should reconcile. Isikoff reports that the original can’t be released to anyone, including the person.

Nobody born in Hawaii has a hospital Birth Certificate to produce?

ImNotBlue said:
Glad you’re here… you’re really making a difference.

HA !

Trump is exposing the Loons.

Colorado_Conservative said:
Because it shows that Frank Marshall Davis is his real father?

Oh, that would be hilarious…
But not worth reporting///

cjd ohio 1 said:
was not direct to you, it was joe that was lying

Let me explain something to you if I may. I have 339 friends on Facebook. (I just looked) I’ll bet I couldn’t tell who more than 30 of them are. It’s like that for most people on Facebook. Until you told me he and I were friends I had no idea. I’m willing to bet the farm that it is the same for Joseph Glackin. Frankly you’re starting to look a bit crazy.

Too late Donald, I guess his ‘people’ in Hawaii are not finding anything substantial anyway.

ellie said:
Let me explain something to you if I may. I have 339 friends on Facebook. (I just looked) I’ll bet I couldn’t tell who more than 30 of them are. It’s like that for most people on Facebook. Until you told me he and I were friends I had no idea. I’m willing to bet the farm that it is the same for Joseph Glackin. Frankly you’re starting to look a bit crazy.

he has 6 and you are 1 of them

Colorado_Conservative said:
“why doesn’t President Obama produce the long form birth certificate?”

Because they don’t issue long form birth certificates in Kenya?
Because it contains something that would be politically damaging to him?
Because it shows that Frank Marshall Davis is his real father?

No ones for sure…..and no one knows for sure if he meets the constitutional requirements to be POTUS because he refuses to release it!!

“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” ~ Obama

Why do aliens mutilate cattle?

ImNotBlue said:
Glad you’re here… you’re really making a difference.

It was a joke. I keep forgetting the right wasn’t given that gene.

ellie said:
Let me explain something to you if I may. I have 339 friends on Facebook. (I just looked) I’ll bet I couldn’t tell who more than 30 of them are. It’s like that for most people on Facebook. Until you told me he and I were friends I had no idea. I’m willing to bet the farm that it is the same for Joseph Glackin. Frankly you’re starting to look a bit crazy.

like i said, i like the back and forth with you, but people like gordon bloyer and joseph glackin, no, not outright liars

Nixon had a tape recorder in the Oval Office and this POTUS will not release a hospital birth record?!?!

Garth said:
Why do aliens mutilate cattle?

for human experiments later lol

cjd ohio 1 said:
he has 6 and you are 1 of them

Well I must be someone very special then. But here’s a little shocker for you. He said he never had the please of meeting me. Where is the lie in that pray tell?

cjd ohio 1 said:
not outright liars

See this is where you’ve jumped the shark. There was no lie.

ellie said:
Well I must be someone very special then. But here’s a little shocker for you. He said he never had the please of meeting me. Where is the lie in that pray tell?

wrong re-read what was asked and his answer………meeting you was not in either

Never mind. I’ve wasted too much time on this Glackin’s right. Get a life of your own.

cjd ohio 1 said:
you must be friends with ellie lol perfect lol

Joseph Glackin said:
Haven’t had the pleasure. Just could not understand WTF you were trying to say.Wanted a way to express that. Sort of like the Scots’ verdict, “Not Proven”.I suppose you could put WTF? up there, but WHA? seemed more friendly.

cjd ohio 1 said:
lol, you are a facebook friend of hers, damn, now you are a proven liar

Joseph Glackin said:
Some weeks ago I explained to “bobmoses” that I rarely look at my Facebook page.Nice to know others are keeping up with it for me. Guess I don’t have to.P.S.– Get a life. One of your own.

meeting you was where?

ellie said:
Well I must be someone very special then. But here’s a little shocker for you. He said he never had the please of meeting me. Where is the lie in that pray tell?

now you lie

ellie said:
Never mind. I’ve wasted too much time on this Glackin’s right. Get a life of your own.

,got one, duck, dodg,e dip ,dive, and dodge

cjd ohio 1 said:
meeting you was where?

Now THAT makes NO sense.

After watching the Crowley interview I realized that there is a huge conspiracy going on, and it’s a conspiracy directed against the rightwingers. Obama and the Democrats are deliberately letting this issue fester because of the ongoing damage it’s doing to the Republican Party. Can anyone in his or her right mind think that Obama would ever have run for President if he were’t born in the USA. Think about it. Asides from the more than ample proof, especially the birth announcements in the Honolulu papers which are routuinely put there by hospitals, it is absolutely outlandish to imagine any other scenario than what has been stated a million times over. Obama is as American as apple pie. I’ve been thinking about the recent studies about brain function determining political attitudes. Clearly, rightwing conservative people operate much more out of fear than we liberal types, and rightwingers live in a more black and white world – they’re always sure that they’re right while we poor, wishy-washy liberals are more willing to deal in complexities. This theory is probably overstated, but I’m convinced that rightwingers are more disturbed by the compexities and subtleties of modern society and are therefore more easily manipulated by the powers that be, etc. As a New Yorker, I am quite familiar with The Donald, and while he may be a shrewd real estate mogul, he is considered by many to be a real a-hole.

Joseph Glackin said:
Now THAT makes NO sense.

lol

skoorbekim said:
Nixon had a tape recorder in the Oval Office and this POTUS will not release a hospital birth record?!?!

Using your logic, an American not born in a hospital can not be President. You wingnuts amuse me.

Of course he wants to stop talking about it NOW. Now that all of his silly claims have been discredited, he knows he’s going to get embarrassed in a major way once he’s finally confronted by a journalist with the cajones to stand up to this freak and make him prove his claims – which he can’t because they aren’t true. Then after he is reduced to an incoherent fool, I want to see someone tear that silly wig off his head.

@ ellie

I think for it to be a joke, you wouldn’t have posted it 3 times… oh, and it would have been funny.

@ gany

Does your computer keyboard lack a “return” key?

I’d like to read what you wrote, but huge blocks of texts, and no paragraphs… no thank you! Makes my eyes go crossed.

‘I Don’t Like to Talk About This (Birther) Issue Too Much’ That’s Code for my investigators have comeback with nothing! Just like the Clintons on the campaign trail in 08′

TampopoLoco said:
‘I Don’t Like to Talk About This (Birther) Issue Too Much’ That’s Code for my investigators have comeback with nothing! Just like the Clintons on the campaign trail in 08′

LOL. Totally true. He knows he will be asked about their findings and he’s already deploying the proverbial escape chute!

Gasket said:
Using your logic, an American not born in a hospital can not be President. You wingnuts amuse me.

Would a presidential historian be considered a “wingnut” for being interested in seeing a president’s personal legal papers?
I could show you from public record a picture of Reagan’s colon…

ImNotBlue said:
Man, I’m really glad you’re around! Always telling us what we can and can’t talk about (can talk topics include: attacking FNC, Republicans, and people not on the left / cannot talk topics include: MSNBC, negative stories about Democrats, praising Republicans, and anyone who disagrees with ellie). Glad you’re here… you’re really making a difference.

She, Like all progressives, Want to control the thoughts and actions of everybody els.
They have every right to say what they want, But every rational person should never let a prog gain power because thay would gladly take all our right’s away, For the good of the collective of course.

I think every time ellie gives her opinion on how government should be run we should just give her a polite digital pat on the head and say ” Oh ellie, You so silly”

trident said:
This is a fairly significant discrepancy you should reconcile.

Stay tuned.

cjd ohio 1 said:
just use it to log on to mediaite evey other day lol

So! You caught me! I turn on my computer, pull up Mediaite from my e-mail, and Key on a box that says “log in”.
THEN, it says, “Welcome, Joseph Glackin”.
And THAT tells me about every entry in my Facebook account.
SHEEESH!
You are one dumb SOB.

Tommy Christopher said:
There’s validity in some of what you say, but the idea that the left is somehow responsible for the right’s birtherism is ludicrous. This crap is being peddled by conservatives, and believed by embarrassing numbers of Republicans. If Trump would stop talking about this for five seconds, there’d be nothing to report.

However, you’re right about the Democrats’ failure in the midterms, they did nothing to differentiate themselves from the opposition, and relied on wingnuttery to defeat the Republicans, and you’re right, they will have to make an affirmative case for people to vote for them in 2012, which they are not doing.

Tomny, thanks for responding to my comment — and thanks in general for allowing healthy dialogue and debate on the Mediaite site, which often impresses me with its willingness to offer hard-hitting coverage of all sectors of the media. I will simply add that conservatives I speak to (every day), don’t fret about the President’s birth certificate. They are concerned about unemployment, the national debt, our nation’s foreign policy, the border, the broken budgeting process and a host of other vital issues. By all means, give Mr. Trump his fifteen minutes of media attention for this issue. But at a certain point we should move on to other topics.

Joseph Glackin said:
So! You caught me! I turn on my computer, pull up Mediaite from my e-mail, and Key on a box that says “log in”.THEN, it says, “Welcome, Joseph Glackin”.And THAT tells me about every entry in my Facebook account.SHEEESH!You are one dumb SOB.

maybe, but you are still a liar

Gasket said:
LOL. Totally true. He knows he will be asked about their findings and he’s already deploying the proverbial escape chute!

You’ll know how true that is by the number of thumbs down votes that will appear on my comment.

Tommy Christopher said:
Stay tuned.

Do tell…

if this man-child on training wheels, this empty suit, is Not an American born citizen, then he should be impeached as a fraud, and all the progressive laws he has signed should become null and void. I read Obama SR was a British subject. The Constitution of Kenya identifies Obama JR as a British subject because he is the son of a Briitish subject. Obama JR. and SR both became citizens of the Republic of Kenya on December 12, 1963, and Obama knows it! All the issues he has with his policy would not even be around if this issue was resolved. Why then does he not release his medical, college records and also his birth certificate? While Trump is pushing this issue no one is really willing to take a stand. Both parties don’t give a rats behind. If they did the truth would have been found by now.
People who say oh well, lets move on and fight his policies, well they are missing the most important point of all. No one BUT an American should be allowed to be president!
If there was a birth certificate, it was ISSUED. But by whom? Certainly not Hawaii. Hawaii cannot even tell you which of two hospitals Obama was born in, because Obama wasn’t born in a hospital in Hawaii. His father didn’t stay in Hawaii after he finished school. He left. Sr. didn’t even live with Obama and his mother. After he completed his education, Sr. went back to Kenya. The birth certificate HAS to be from Kenya. Otherwise, Obama would have produced the long form!

I have never laughed so hard at how the media works over time to debunk this issue. It would have been nice had they done the same for the NG BS about Bush, but W was a republican so hey….he had to fend for himself.

Truth be known, Trump will continue to raise this (and other issues) about hehimself; lack of college records, the seeming secrecy around his SSN that some sites are reporting on, the rumor that he received froeign aide in college which is why he has hidden all those records, etc.

It is Obama’s own fault that these rumors persisit; he can clean them up, but he doesn’t. He doesn’t need to, he has a loving media who will protect and defend him at all costs — they campaigned for him, voted for him, and will do the same in 2012.

oh well….they are what they are, Obama cultists.

cjd ohio 1 said:
maybe, but you are still a liar

Scheisskopf! Until we were both informed, by you, neither of us knew the other was on their Facebook list.
You say I have six. I think I could name one. As I said, you are more concerned about my list than me.
I would say that, as far as misleading, thou art the liar here.I said, “I never had the pleasure.”
I stand by that truth.

Joseph Glackin said:
Scheisskopf! Until we were both informed, by you, neither of us knew the other was on their Facebook list.You say I have six. I think I could name one. As I said, you are more concerned about my list than me.I would say that, as far as misleading, thou art the liar here.I said, “I never had the pleasure.”I stand by that truth.

okay you have six facebook friends, but just by chance ellie is one, and you say you never had the pleasure ,got it

TfT said:
I have never laughed so hard at how the media works over time to debunk this issue

Doth protest too much…

Just show us the darn thing…

jo hoochie said:
if this man-child on training wheels, this empty suit, is Not an American born citizen, then he should be impeached as a fraud, and all the progressive laws he has signed should become null and void. I read Obama SR was a British subject. The Constitution of Kenya identifies Obama JR as a British subject because he is the son of a Briitish subject. Obama JR. and SR both became citizens of the Republic of Kenya on December 12, 1963, and Obama knows it! All the issues he has with his policy would not even be around if this issue was resolved. Why then does he not release his medical, college records and also his birth certificate? While Trump is pushing this issue no one is really willing to take a stand. Both parties don’t give a rats behind. If they did the truth would have been found by now.People who say oh well, lets move on and fight his policies, well they are missing the most important point of all. No one BUT an American should be allowed to be president!If there was a birth certificate, it was ISSUED. But by whom? Certainly not Hawaii. Hawaii cannot even tell you which of two hospitals Obama was born in, because Obama wasn’t born in a hospital in Hawaii. His father didn’t stay in Hawaii after he finished school. He left. Sr. didn’t even live with Obama and his mother. After he completed his education, Sr. went back to Kenya. The birth certificate HAS to be from Kenya. Otherwise, Obama would have produced the long form!

An established journalist would give that theory the condescending smirk… that us folk should know better than to ask such postulates…

cjd ohio 1 said:
meeting you was where?

You’re just nuts.

ellie said:
You’re just nuts.

lol, and you are a liar, so whats your point…….damn simple lies haunt people lol

cjd ohio 1 said:
,got one, duck, dodg,e dip ,dive, and dodge

Here’s the thing. NO ONE GIVES A CHIT ABOUT THIS STUFF BUT YOU! Get a life this one is taken.

please sign my petition at:
http://www.boycottcelebrityapprentice.com/

fbnyc said:
please sign my petition at:http://www.boycottcelebrityapprentice.com/

Liberalism on display…

ganymede said:
After watching the Crowley interview I realized that there is a huge conspiracy going on, and it’s a conspiracy directed against the rightwingers. Obama and the Democrats are deliberately letting this issue fester because of the ongoing damage it’s doing to the Republican Party. Can anyone in his or her right mind think that Obama would ever have run for President if he were’t born in the USA. Think about it. Asides from the more than ample proof, especially the birth announcements in the Honolulu papers which are routuinely put there by hospitals, it is absolutely outlandish to imagine any other scenario than what has been stated a million times over. Obama is as American as apple pie. I’ve been thinking about the recent studies about brain function determining political attitudes. Clearly, rightwing conservative people operate much more out of fear than we liberal types, and rightwingers live in a more black and white world – they’re always sure that they’re right while we poor, wishy-washy liberals are more willing to deal in complexities. This theory is probably overstated, but I’m convinced that rightwingers are more disturbed by the compexities and subtleties of modern society and are therefore more easily manipulated by the powers that be, etc. As a New Yorker, I am quite familiar with The Donald, and while he may be a shrewd real estate mogul, he is considered by many to be a real a-hole.

Nuance is not their strong suit.

ellie said:
Here’s the thing. NO ONE GIVES A CHIT ABOUT THIS STUFF BUT YOU! Get a life this one is taken.

lol, why is it so hard for people just to admit they were wrong, oops made a mistake, hell tommy christopher knows i have said i was sorry when it was pointed out he was correct . But you people just cant do it, thats why its funny

skoorbekim said:
Liberalism on display…

Don’t like free speech and the free market?

cjd ohio 1 said:
lol, why is it so hard for people just to admit they were wrong, oops made a mistake, hell tommy christopher knows i have said i was sorry when it was pointed out he was correct . But you people just cant do it, thats why its funny

Because we can’t make any sense of what you’re talking about. Still don’t know where the lies are. You just sound nuts.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Because we can’t make any sense of what you’re talking about. Still don’t know where the lies are. You just sound nuts.

you really dont do you? lol ….forget it, must just come natural for some people

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Don’t like free speech and the free market?

What’s the difference between a Conservative vegetarian and a Liberal vegetarian?
A Conservative vegetarian is just a vegetarian…
A Liberal vegetarian is someone who wants everybody to be a vegetarian…

skoorbekim said:
What’s the difference between a Conservative vegetarian and a Liberal vegetarian?
A Conservative vegetarian is just a vegetarian…
A Liberal vegetarian is someone who wants everybody to be a vegetarian…

Odd. The only people I hear telling others what to do or not to do are Conservatives.
They are the ones who want to get into my bedroom.
And decide what my children can be taught.
And what a woman can do with her body.
And who can fight for their country.

Joseph Glackin said:
And decide what my children can be taught.

So you’re okay with home schooling?

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Because we can’t make any sense of what you’re talking about. Still don’t know where the lies are. You just sound nuts.

all that needed to be said…….by joe.. yeah i facebook friended her a while back, i forgot sorry……….by ellie…no he didnt say meet me, i read it wrong sorry…….then the conversation would have been over, but you just keep defending a simple mistake, that funny too.

skoorbekim said:
So you’re okay with home schooling?

Have no problem there. That wasn’t the question. Conservatives want to teach kids Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs., or some BS about “the world is 6000 years old”. THAT I object to.

Joseph Glackin said:
Have no problem there. That wasn’t the question. Conservatives want to teach kids Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs., or some BS about “the world is 6000 years old”. THAT I object to.

Not true…
I am a Conservative and I do not teach my kids that theory…
that is Liberal slander…

cjd ohio 1 said:
all that needed to be said…….by joe.. yeah i facebook friended her a while back, i forgot sorry……….by ellie…no he didnt say meet me, i read it wrong sorry…….then the conversation would have been over, but you just keep defending a simple mistake, that funny too.

After the mountain you built out of that molehill, the apology should be coming from the Buckeye State.

cjd ohio 1 said:
all that needed to be said…….by joe.. yeah i facebook friended her a while back, i forgot sorry……….by ellie…no he didnt say meet me, i read it wrong sorry…….then the conversation would have been over, but you just keep defending a simple mistake, that funny too.

What you don’t get is that he didn’t owe you anything. He said he’s never met me and he hasn’t. The bigger question is why you’ve got your nose in other people’s lives. Particularly since all this only matters to you. GET A LIFE. PLEASE!

ellie said:
What you don’t get is that he didn’t owe you anything. He said he’s never met me and he hasn’t. The bigger question is why you’ve got your nose in other people’s lives. Particularly since all this only matters to you. GET A LIFE. PLEASE!

met , stick to the lie unreal, he never said that, forget it , its not funny anymore, you guys cant help but lie

Just got these tweets ….

Obama will propose ending the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy as part of his deficit reduction plan (those cuts expire end of 2012)

Obama will say that the tax cuts for upper income Americans comes at the expense of services for seniors and the poor

cjd ohio 1 said:
forget it

Good.

skoorbekim said:
What’s the difference between a Conservative vegetarian and a Liberal vegetarian?
A Conservative vegetarian is just a vegetarian…
A Liberal vegetarian is someone who wants everybody to be a vegetarian…

Very well stated!

ellie said:
What you don’t get is that he didn’t owe you anything. He said he’s never met me and he hasn’t. The bigger question is why you’ve got your nose in other people’s lives. Particularly since all this only matters to you. GET A LIFE. PLEASE!

get it through that thick head, i never asked him if he ‘met” you, and he never said met you in person, damn, your lifes must be a bitch if you cant figure it out

ellie said:
Obama will propose ending the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy as part of his deficit reduction plan (those cuts expire end of 2012)
Obama will say that the tax cuts for upper income Americans comes at the expense of services for seniors and the poor

translation:
I’M RAISING TAXES…

ellie said:
Just got these tweets …. Obama will propose ending the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy as part of his deficit reduction plan (those cuts expire end of 2012) Obama will say that the tax cuts for upper income Americans comes at the expense of services for seniors and the poor

why not fix the corporate taxes first……exxon mobil, GE, and the other companies that dont pay taxes

skoorbekim said:
Not true…I am a Conservative and I do not teach my kids that theory…that is Liberal slander…

Liberal socialist valueless is being taught in our schools now. Good reason to home school.

The Donald wasn’t havin nun a dat, but Crowly ‘ You Go Girl “.

http://www.last.fm/music/Bow+Wow+Wow/_/I+Want+Candy

jo hoochie said:
Liberal socialist valueless is being taught in our schools now. Good reason to home school.

And/or private school…

Trump: An American hero!

HILARIOUS!!!!!!

THAT BASTARD TRUMPS IS JUMPING IN ON MY GAME OF MAKING MONEY OFF YOU WACKOS!!!!

I HAVE TO ADMIT…IT’S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE….YOU WACKOS ARE EASY TO MANIPULATE!!!!!!!

EASY MONEY!!! THANK$$$$$$$

HAHHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAH!!!

The only one talking more about Donald Trump and the “birther” issue is Tommy Christopher. The only one defending 0bama harder on his hidden past other than the LSM is Tommy Christopher. Mediaite has become a joke.

ndanielson said:
the “birther” issue is Tommy Christopher

He also writes about the GOP’s 2012 Southern Strategy…

@ grafx

And much like Trump, you both spend a lot of time on Mediaite.

But seriously, any hints on your job? How do you expect to make money, if you don’t tell us how to pay you.

skoorbekim said:
And/or private school…

You got that right!!

I keep my money in the Caymans, so I don’t have to pay grafx.

The Libtards cannot control Trump like they can the wimpy Republicans who are soo afraid they might be called a racist if they question why Obama will not release his credentials…..or worse yet…..a “birther” or even a “teabagger”!

Trump doesn’t play into their labeling of people they don’t like….

It’s gonna get good….you aint seen nothing yet…Trump knows more then he is saying at this point in time.

Come on BO…just tell us where you were really born. We’ll forgive you…you’ll have to step down and serve some prison time, but we will forgive.

Jack Ryan had to pull out of the 2004 Senate race against Obama becuase his divorce records were unsealed that revealed embarassing allegations…
—
What specific documents are off limits when you run for president?

skoorbekim said:
translation:
I’M RAISING TAXES…

On the rich. And the end of 2012 can’t come fast enough.

cjd ohio 1 said:
why not fix the corporate taxes first……exxon mobil, GE, and the other companies that dont pay taxes

Conservatives would be against that too. He should do both imo. Sunset ALL the Bush tax cuts (they didn’t do squat as far as jobs is concerned and ballooned the deficits) and eliminate corporate tax loopholes. If that is done effectively, I can almost guarantee you that they can effectively lower the corporate tax rate by 15% and still maintain tax revenue and corporations remaining competitive.

Colorado_Conservative said:
The Libtards cannot control Trump like they can the wimpy Republicans who are soo afraid they might be called a racist if they question why Obama will not release his credentials…..or worse yet…..a “birther” or even a “teabagger”!

Trump doesn’t play into their labeling of people they don’t like….

It’s gonna get good….you aint seen nothing yet…Trump knows more then he is saying at this point in time.

Still waiting for what his “investigators” have found…LOL! The anticipation is just KILLING me! By the way, why are they going to Hawaii IF he wasn’t born there? Shouldn’t they be in Kenya or Indonesia? LOL LOL. :)

ellie said:
On the rich. And the end of 2012 can’t come fast enough.

This president is a globalist… in those terms YOU are the rich…
Your luxuries are at the expense of others…
There is not enough wealth to spend $3.6T a year… unless you inflate the currency…

Gasket said:
Still waiting for what his “investigators” have found…LOL! The anticipation is just KILLING me! By the way, why are they going to Hawaii IF he wasn’t born there? Shouldn’t they be in Kenya or Indonesia? LOL LOL. :)

Even a stupid person can understand that Obama clearly doesnt have one or doesn’t want it exposed!!!

The following link will take you to factcheck.org, that has numerous high resolution photos of the presidents birth certificate. The president had his campaign release it back in 2008. Staff members of factcheck.org went to campaign headquarters and held, examined and photographed the birth certificate. As one of the photos shows, there is an embossed seal and there is the official signature of the states registrar that it is a certificate based on the original they have on file in the Department of Health in Hawaii. The birth certificate has been released, before the president was ever elected. Trying to claim otherwise is just getting to the point of crazy. It is no longer funny or silly- it has become certifiable. Straight jacket type.

MTinMO said:
factcheck.org

Wow, Haven’t seen that website///
CoLB not a hospital BC…
Embossed seal and signature is dated June 6, 2007…
Bring some red meat or sit at the kiddie table…

The link didn’t show up in my previous post. It is http://factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/ .
The Certificate of Live Birth is what Hawaii gives everyone. If you have lost or misplaced one from a previous era, you will get the new type when you request a new certificate. The pictured certificate is valid for all governmental purposes as prove of your birth place. In this case, it shows the birth place as Honolulu, Hawaii. It is an official proof of birth place and therefore of citizenship. Period. End of story.

MTinMO said:
In this case, it shows the birth place as Honolulu, Hawaii. It is an official proof of birth place and therefore of citizenship. Period. End of story.

Hawaiian health official Fukino says he has seen the the birth cerificate in the records office…
For argumets sake we know he was born in Hawaii…
Just show the records that exist; why hide them? …unless they are playing a political game with the gulible public or they are hiding certain information that is on those records…

skoorbekim said:
Wow, Haven’t seen that website///CoLB not a hospital BC…Embossed seal and signature is dated June 6, 2007…Bring some red meat or sit at the kiddie table…

Yes, the certificate is dated in 2007. That was when he requested a copy of his certificate. Since they no longer give out actual copies, instead they give certificates based on the original records the State of Hawaii have on file. That is why it is embossed and stamped and has the registrars signature. Check it out with Hawaii. Why do you think they had to pass the “birther” bill? They have some people repeatedly asking for the same info they got the last time they asked.so they passed a bill that they can refuse to respond. They have answered the question time and time and time again. Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4th, 19661 in Honolulu, Hawaii and is a natural born citizen of these United States and therefore was eligible to be elected to the office of the President of the United States of America. And he was duly elected by a majority of the voting citizens in November, 2008. Anything else is a moot point. He is and will remain the president. Period. End of story.

One PS. Trump is an idiot or he is doing this for publicity. It may have backfired for him though. I will no longer watch his show and a bunch of others have said the same.

MTinMO said:
Anything else is a moot point.

The hospital birth certificate is not a moot point it is the entire point of this exercise…
It is the topic of dicussion, the thing that people want to see…
Fukino said she saw it now the public would like to see it…
If I offered you a link to the hospital Birth Certificate, that has been seen by Hawaiian officials, would you click on that link?
Are you not at all curious to see that paperwork?

Kennedy autopsy… public domain
Nixon tapes… public domain
Reagan’s colon… public domain
1961 Hawaiian Birth Certificate… Classified

This is all Tommy Cristopher Crap. Pick up a copy of Jack Cashill’s book ….”Deconstructing Obama”. I was never a “birther” but always a believer in the fact that Obama is a fraud. Hillary would’ve been so much better. If you visit the web site http://www.barnhardt.biz and scroll down a bit you’ll find a copy of a real birth certificate from someone who was born a day before Barack Obama in Hawaii. You’ll then see what a real certificate from the state looks like….then mosey on over to factcheck.org or whatever & look at a live certificate of birth. Big difference! Now, I was born in Indiana and actually have both types of records, wasn’t hard to get folks….In reference to the book listed above you’ll find out that all of his records have either disappeared or been restricted. His parents, grandparent’s birth certificates are also missing. There’s a lot of investigation into his mother’s whereabouts right after his birth & it’s all very confusing (she’s enrolled at the Univ of WA but she went to Africa….friend’s recollections all contradict each other…that is when they do finally talk). There’s actually questions to who his father really is & of course, when done you will know he never wrote Dreams of My Father. He’s a tool of the left, they don’t care that he’s a fake….he’s there to promote their agenda so of course he will be protected at all costs….but, these facades are starting to crumble and Donald Trump is willing to take the hits because he CAN. He’ll still be standing at the end of this little rumble & I see the end coming much quicker for Barack Obama than even he anticipated. Amen brother.

skoorbekim said:
The hospital birth certificate is not a moot point it is the entire point of this exercise…It is the topic of discussion, the thing that people want to see…Fukino said she saw it now the public would like to see it…If I offered you a link to the hospital Birth Certificate, that has been seen by Hawaiian officials, would you click on that link?Are you not at all curious to see that paperwork?

The hospital fills out a form to submit to the state. Hospitals generally give the family a certificate that is a memento- it is not a legal document. The only entity who can issue a birth certificate under any name- Birth Certificate, Certificate of Live Birth, Certificate of Birth is a governmental agency which in most all cases in the USA is the state the birth took place in; in this case the State of Hawaii. The hospital certificate goes to the state, they issue the birth certificate. That is how they do it. I had a hospital certificate at one time and I could not use it for anything in the legal sense, long before 9-11 and the need for more security. It even had my footprints on it. But it was not a legal document and was never intended to be. It is good for the baby book or scrapbook and nothing more except in the hands of the state..The state of Hawaii does not give out that type of certificate anymore and nobody can get it. It is the property of the state. I did read that they would let the president see it if he goes there in person. No one else has the right.

Unless he comes with a birf certifkit how do we really know it’s Obammy? This could be an imposter made in China™ for we all know!

MsElectric said:
This is all Tommy Cristopher Crap. Pick up a copy of Jack Cashill’s book ….”Deconstructing Obama”. I was never a “birther” but always a believer in the fact that Obama is a fraud. Hillary would’ve been so much better. If you visit the web site http://www.barnhardt.biz and scroll down a bit you’ll find a copy of a real birth certificate from someone who was born a day before Barack Obama in Hawaii. You’ll then see what a real certificate from the state looks like….then mosey on over to factcheck.org or whatever & look at a live certificate of birth. Big difference! Now, I was born in Indiana and actually have both types of records, wasn’t hard to get folks….In reference to the book listed above you’ll find out that all of his records have either disappeared or been restricted. His parents, grandparent’s birth certificates are also missing. There’s a lot of investigation into his mother’s whereabouts right after his birth & it’s all very confusing (she’s enrolled at the Univ of WA but she went to Africa….friend’s recollections all contradict each other…that is when they do finally talk). There’s actually questions to who his father really is & of course, when done you will know he never wrote Dreams of My Father. He’s a tool of the left, they don’t care that he’s a fake….he’s there to promote their agenda so of course he will be protected at all costs….but, these facades are starting to crumble and Donald Trump is willing to take the hits because he CAN. He’ll still be standing at the end of this little rumble & I see the end coming much quicker for Barack Obama than even he anticipated. Amen brother.

Just back from a two week stay at the Executive Birther Nutcase Suite at AboveTopSecret is………….Ms Electric.
You will still be singing this hymn in 2017…..

skoorbekim said:
Not true…
I am a Conservative and I do not teach my kids that theory…
that is Liberal slander…

Joseph Glackin said:
Have no problem there. That wasn’t the question. Conservatives want to teach kids Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs., or some BS about “the world is 6000 years old”. THAT I object to.

That has got to be the biggest bunch of pig sh!t that is ever been excreted. I am a constitutional conservative and have never taught my kids, grandkids and great grandkids that nonsense. Adam and Eve on dinosaurs. How insulting. I don’t know anyone that believes the earth is 6000 years old. Only big government fascists believe that babble because you need stupid people to control, Thus.. the dumbing down of America.. BTW I like to drink clean water and breath clean air you elitist snob and only the free market can right this mess that bureaucrats are destroying ,

Gasket said:
Still waiting for what his “investigators” have found…LOL! The anticipation is just KILLING me! By the way, why are they going to Hawaii IF he wasn’t born there? Shouldn’t they be in Kenya or Indonesia? LOL LOL. :)

Isn’t the title of the thread I dun wanna talk about the birth certificate anymore? :)

Sister Honky Tonk said:
That has got to be the biggest bunch of pig sh!t that is ever been excreted. I am a constitutional conservative and have never taught my kids, grandkids and great grandkids that nonsense. Adam and Eve on dinosaurs. How insulting. I don’t know anyone that believes the earth is 6000 years old. Only big government fascists believe that babble because you need stupid people to control, Thus.. the dumbing down of America.. BTW I like to drink clean water and breath clean air you elitist snob and only the free market can right this mess that bureaucrats are destroying ,

Too bad high religiosity and conservatism can be conflated especially if you are a Republican. There’s plenty of overlap there. Most conservatives in the USA are religious. Most religious people in the USA are scientifically stupid.

skoorbekim said:
The hospital birth certificate is not a moot point it is the entire point of this exercise…
It is the topic of dicussion, the thing that people want to see…
Fukino said she saw it now the public would like to see it…
If I offered you a link to the hospital Birth Certificate, that has been seen by Hawaiian officials, would you click on that link?
Are you not at all curious to see that paperwork?

What makes you think the stupid teabaggers will accept the long form birth certificate IF it was posted tomnorrow? Another conspiracy will ensue. They will say it’s not real. They will say that Obama as POTUS had a new one created, took it to his buddies in Hollywood to make it real etc etc. You people are just plain dumb. Just like the other conspiracist days ago who was saying Obama was not really sitting with his grandparents on a park bench in NYC. The photo is a fake. This guys gets airtime on Faux News by the way. You can not outcrazy a conspiracist. By definition, they are wired to reject evidence. It’s best to just ignore them. Something Gov. Abercrombie should have known before hand. It’s irrational hatred that’s driving these morons.

Gasket said:
It’s irrational hatred that’s driving these morons.

With a little xenophobia and racism mixed in to sweeten the pot.

MTinMO said:
I did read that they would let the president see it if he goes there in person. No one else has the right.

Do you concede POTUS has the power to release it…

MTinMO said:
That is how they do it.

Not in 1961…

POTUS can launch Cruise Missiles but he can’t show his subjects a birth record?

Even the European monarchs had to prove lineage…

LOL…OMG. Tommy are you trying to get hired on at the White House? It appears that you go after anyone that dares complain about your President O-Bomb-a-yourass-Libya.

Donald Trump has been proven once again to be wrong. The Investigators that Trump sent to Hawaii met with the Clerk of Public Records on Thursday I believe and were shown the Certified Birth Certificate AND The Certificate of LIve Birth. Both of which have a Seal and a registration number. The Clerk was extremely frustrated at having to go through this whole thing all over again. Of course Fox News would never report this on their network because it is the perfect tool for the them to use. Their undereducated audience never bothers to check that anything is a fact, even with overwhelming evidence and admissions by Fox staff members that they often falsify reports, Poll results and faked studies.

It is absolutely amazing to me that so many people support the Republican Party when they do not have their best interest at heart. The programs that the Democrats support are the programs that best support the lower to middle class. Which is very telling that they do not even understand why they support the G.O.P.

One agenda of the G.O.P. has been to Privatize the prison system. By doing away with the public assistance programs crime will increase astronomically. New Prisons will be built and will be run privately while still taking Federal money to run them. We have also seen how the private Security companies have overcharged for ever single service they have provided and have bilked trillions form the Government. In Iraq Contractors charged the Federal government up to $5,000.00 per toilet, sinks, beds, furniture,etc. for the buildings they built while at the same time not paying anyone for the labor. They used our good Armed Service men and women to help build these building. They only received their Service pay and not a penny more. These toilets didn’t even come from the U.S.. They were purchased from China.

Their next agenda is to make abortion illegal. This of course will result in millions of unwanted children being born. What will happen then? The G.O.P. will build Orphanages which will also be privatized and taking federal money to run them.

Guess who will be in charge of running these orphanages? The Christian Right of course. They will portrait themselves as great and decent Christians by taking care of these children while at the same time taking as much of your tax dollars as possible and brainwashing them to support the Republican Party.