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Fox News Panel Reacts To ‘Total Jackass’ Koran Burning Pastor

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Pastor Terry Jones, disputes any claim that he is responsible for prompting Muslim protesters to kill eleven people in Afghanistan this week. Yet even those who aren’t blaming him for the deaths still have no sympathy for him, since as Bill Kristol eloquently describes Jones, he’s a “total jackass.”

Chris Wallace asked his panel about the situation and Brit Hume succinctly summarized the largest concern, “that these people could become so enflamed by an event so trivial and so minor is very, very distressing.” Yet Mara Liasson claimed that today with the Internet nothing seems trivial anymore. Liasson argued “on the Internet, it seems like there’s some major American religious leader burning a Koran.” And Juan Williams concluded Jones’ little demonstration hurts world peace and hurts the American government.

Even if the media doesn’t cover Jones and doesn’t grant him the publicity he desperately wants, Liasson touches on an important fact. Today with the Internet, Jones no longer needs traditional media to cover him in order for his actions to get worldwide attention. Therefore, given this reality, why waste time condemning Jones and continuing to talk about him? Everyone agrees he is despicable. Yet much, much worse are the people who resort to violence in response.

Instead the focus of conversation should be on figuring out how to convince Muslims around the world that if they really want to extract the most effective and harmful revenge on Jones, they should adopt the strategy already employed by most Americans in response to crazy people: peacefully ignore them.

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  • Helix

    A troll doesn’t need to be loved. A successful troll usually isn’t. But the Muslims who committed violence and murder in response are still responsible for their own actions regardless. These particular Muslims have shown themselves to be cowardly, violent, and ignorant.

  • Garth

    Helix said:
    A troll doesn’t need to be loved. A successful troll usually isn’t. But the Muslims who committed violence and murder in response are still responsible for their own actions regardless. These particular Muslims have shown themselves to be cowardly, violent, and ignorant.

    And this nut job of a pastor (who would call himself a Christian) is an accessory.

  • timzank

    The only people on the face of the Earth that condone Pastor Jones behavior are the handfull of 40 to 50 numnutz parishioners he has.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    People that would kill people because of someone burning a book are INSANE. We can’t negotiate or deal with the INSANE.

  • BFD

    The world need more Koran burnings and pictures of Mohamed, not less. I’m tired of these fundies getting their way because they bring the most crazy.

  • Severian

    ya, Obombem flattens a Muslim country for no apparent reason, but it’s this ONE nobody in the USA is responsible for ‘moderate’ muslims to start beheading people on the other side of the world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Growing up, I was told the “age of reason” was that point in life when you became aware that the actions you took had consequences, and that you were responsible for those consequences.
    Let us all hope the “Rev.” reaches that age soon.

  • timzank

    BFD said:
    The world need more Koran burnings and pictures of Mohamed, not less. I’m tired of these fundies getting their way because they bring the most crazy.

    Hmmmm..interesting…I would have figured you for an appeaser.

  • Barack Must Go

    I sure hope the left wing bomb throwers address this barbaric behaviour by, what does not appear to be RADICAL islamist, or are they all radicals, just some in high up places ( nod, nod, wink, wink ) are just better at hiding their true feelings and intentions until it is too late, for us ” real ” Americans?

    Their lame arguement about muslims are just like you or me just flew out the window. We need extensive Congressional hearings into exactly how big of a muslim problem we may, or may not have in this country.

    If the president doesn’t like it, we’ll just have to recall ( impeach ) his _____.

    What’s good for the Republican governers is even better for the Obama. Enough is enough already.

  • BFD

    timzank said:
    Hmmmm..interesting…I would have figured you for an appeaser.

    I have been consistent about this going all the way back to our South Park discussions.

    This is about much more than just burning a Koran.

    This is about us being brave enough to practice our freedoms w/o being intimidated by radical fundamentalists.

  • Jaurez

    BFD said:
    I have been consistent about this going all the way back to our South Park discussions.

    This is about much more than just burning a Koran.

    This is about us being brave enough to practice our freedoms w/o being intimidated by radical fundamentalists.

    Cork it, bovine.

  • Garth

    Barack Must Go said:
    I sure hope the left wing bomb throwers address this barbaric behaviour by, what does not appear to be RADICAL islamist, or are they all radicals, just some in high up places ( nod, nod, wink, wink ) are just better at hiding their true feelings and intentions until it is too late, for us ” real ” Americans?

    Their lame arguement about muslims are just like you or me just flew out the window. We need extensive Congressional hearings into exactly how big of a muslim problem we may, or may not have in this country.

    If the president doesn’t like it, we’ll just have to recall ( impeach ) his _____.

    What’s good for the Republican governers is even better for the Obama. Enough is enough already.

    Yes, and we need even more extensive hearings to find out what kind of threat we are facing from the extreme Christian right. PS – You spell like a third grader, perhaps a reflection of your thinking.

  • same2u

    I support the burning of religious texts for the same reason I support the building of Mosques two blocks from the World Trade Center.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Mara Liasson is wrong. It’s not that those who capitalized on the Koran burning don’t know Jones is a nobody from nowhere. It’s that they don’t care. Neither, for that matter, do those in the crowd imbued with a violent, intolerant and supremacist world-view. It’s about a fundamental difference in values. What they’re lacking is our culture’s core respect for religious differences. As long as entire regions of Muslims are under the sway of cultural influences antithetical to moderation, there will be continuing war and terror.

  • ModerateMan

    Passing the blame from people insane enough to chop off another human’s head because somebody burned a book thousands of miles away is disgusting. What world do journalists live in?

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Garth said:
    Yes, and we need even more extensive hearings to find out what kind of threat we are facing from the extreme Christian right. PS – You spell like a third grader, perhaps a reflection of your thinking.

    Decades of images broadcast from the middle east and around the Muslim world of burning American flags, effigies and bibles hasn’t led America’s Christians to lynch and kill 11 random Muslims.

    Until you get this, you’ll be this site’s resident idiot.

  • BFD

    Once again all the other Sunday shows have a variety of interesting guests on their panels and Fox News had it’s regular paid whores saying the same things you can see every other day of the week.

    This might be why the consistently lose in the ratings on Sunday.

  • Jaurez

    BFD said:
    Once again all the other Sunday shows have a variety of interesting guests on their panels and Fox News had it’s regular paid whores saying the same things you can see every other day of the week.

    This might be why the consistently lose in the ratings on Sunday.

    Ratings matter, now? LMAO!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Mara Liasson is wrong. It’s not that those who capitalized on the Koran burning don’t know Jones is a nobody from nowhere. It’s that they don’t care. Neither, for that matter, do those in the crowd imbued with a violent, intolerant and supremacist world-view. It’s about a fundamental difference in values. What they’re lacking is our culture’s core respect for religious differences. As long as entire regions of Muslims are under the sway of cultural influences antithetical to moderation, there will be continuing war and terror.

    I hope to hell you’re being ironic.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Joseph Glackin said:
    I hope to hell you’re being ironic.

    I’m not being at all ironic.

    I know it escapes you what I mean by core respect for religious differences in this country. You think it means one doesn’t burn some symbolic object. I think it means one is prevented by law and by a higher moral precept to not forcibly impose upon another one’s chosen religion or denomination.

  • Barack Must Go

    BFD said:
    Once again all the other Sunday shows have a variety of interesting guests on their panels and Fox News had it’s regular paid whores saying the same things you can see every other day of the week. This might be why the consistently lose in the ratings on Sunday.

    What shows were you watching? The MSM have had the same disgusting skid mark laden underwear of apanel on ever since Reagan was still in office.

    The MSM ” Fair & Balance “, is one white woman, one white man, one assorted minority, everyone a left wing bomb thrower extraordinaire and always a rabidly lefty jackass as cheerleader…..I mean supposed moderator.

  • Yukon Jack

    BFD said:
    Once again all the other Sunday shows have a variety of interesting guests on their panels and Fox News had it’s regular paid whores saying the same things you can see every other day of the week.

    This might be why the consistently lose in the ratings on Sunday.

    When MSNBC has the variety of guests as FOX it will be credible. Until then MSNBC is nothing but a shill for the Democrat party. Note that I did not refer to MSNBC guests as whores.

    Name-calling is the exclusive and only redeeming quality of liberals.

  • michiganruth

    BFD said:
    I have been consistent about this going all the way back to our South Park discussions.

    This is about much more than just burning a Koran.

    This is about us being brave enough to practice our freedoms w/o being intimidated by radical fundamentalists.

    amen, BFD.

  • felixw

    Matt Schneider said:
    Today with the Internet, Jones no longer needs traditional media to cover him in order for his actions to get worldwide attention.

    This is grasping at straws to defend the disgraceful media elevation of a nobody into a media celebrity — thus putting lives at risk. There are thousands of wackos on the web, but no one pays any attention to them. Do a YouTube search on “Koran burning” and you get back thousands of results. But only one Koran burner has led to this ugly international situation that has left people dead in its wake. And that was the one hyped beyond belief by the liberal media, in a disgraceful attempt to score cheap points against a far right loon. You can’t absolve the liberal media of responsibility here, no matter how much you spin and spin.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Instead the focus of conversation should be on figuring out how to convince Muslims around the world that if they really want to extract the most effective and harmful revenge on Jones, they should adopt the strategy already employed by most Americans in response to crazy people: peacefully ignore them.

    HAHAHAHAHA…GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE….They warned you….burn their Holy Book and they’ll kick your ass…they aint ignoring shit…take that into consideration b4 you light that match Mara

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    I’m not being at all ironic.

    I know it escapes you what I mean by core respect for religious differences in this country. You think it means one doesn’t burn some symbolic object. I think it means one is prevented by law and by a higher moral precept to not forcibly impose upon another one’s chosen religion or denomination.

    Then you must be pro-choice.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    What they’re lacking is our culture’s core respect for religious differences.

    lololololololol…this coming from a intolerant right wing nut bag dumb ass Christian, Muslim & Mexican hating, crossburning conservative asswipe like you??????……you’re kidding right?????

  • Jaurez

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    lololololololol…this coming from a intolerant right wing nut bag dumb ass Christian, Muslim & Mexican hating, crossburning conservative asswipe like you??????……you’re kidding right?????

    Are you too stoned to see the hypocrisy in your hate infested screed?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    So. Juarez, you’re one of those TOLERANT Christians who will let gays marry and adopt, believe a woman has the right of choice as regards her OWN body, and will respect ALL other religious beliefs, including Islam?
    Welcome to the Human Race.

  • OxyCon

    I guess Pastor Jones is responsible for this too:
    MASSACRE: MUSLIM TROOPS SLAUGHTER 1,000 CHRISTIANS IN IVORY COAST
    Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, April 3, 2011, 10:22 PM
    (UPDATED & BUMPED)
    At least 1,000 Christians were slaughtered this week in at the Salesian Saint Teresa of the Child Jesus mission in Duekou, Ivory Coast by Muslim troops loyal to Alassane Ouattara. The state-run media has been slow to report the facts.
    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/04/muslim-troops-slaughter-1000-civilians-in-ivory-coast-massacre/

  • OxyCon

    According to the NYT, the Afghan president we’re keeping alive certainly played a central role:

    Both Afghan and international news media had initially played down or ignored the actions of Mr. Jones, the Florida pastor. On Thursday, however, President Karzai made a speech and issued statements condemning the Koran burning and calling for the arrest of Mr. Jones for his actions. On Friday, that theme was picked up in mosques throughout Afghanistan.

    “Karzai brought this issue back to life, and he has to take some responsibility for starting this up,” said a prominent Afghan businessman, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution if he was identified as a critic of the president.

    “Karzai’s speech itself provoked people to take such actions,” said Qayum Baabak, a political analyst in Mazar-i-Sharif. “Karzai should have called on people to be patient rather than making people more angry.”

    http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/02/did-hamid-karzai-incite-the-riots-in-afghanistan/

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    HAHAHAHAHA…GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE….They warned you….burn their Holy Book and they’ll kick your ass…

    And they killed who again? Terry Jones? Ummm…no. They killed some UN people trying to help them, and they killed each other.

    They didn’t kick Terry Jones’ ass. They slaughtered some perfectly innocent people. And you’re cheering them on.

  • Davo

    BFD said:
    The world need more Koran burnings and pictures of Mohamed, not less. I’m tired of these fundies getting their way because they bring the most crazy.

    BFD said:
    I have been consistent about this going all the way back to our South Park discussions.

    This is about much more than just burning a Koran.

    This is about us being brave enough to practice our freedoms w/o being intimidated by radical fundamentalists.

    Sometimes the truth hurts. And the truth is that BFD has finally posted something I agree with. Cowering to Islamic intimidation is what brought Muslim oppression to every nation that has been devastated by them. I agree that massive Quoran burnings will help desensitize Muslim intolerance.

  • Davo

    Joseph Glackin said:
    So. Juarez, you’re one of those TOLERANT Christians who will let gays marry and adopt, believe a woman has the right of choice as regards her OWN body, and will respect ALL other religious beliefs, including Islam?
    Welcome to the Human Race.

    I believe that “a woman has the right of choice as regards to her OWN body.” I also believe that a living fetus whereby brain activity can be observed also has the “right of choice as regards to” it’s OWN body. The unborn child is NOT the woman’s body.

    It’s insane to murder living humans simply because others consider them inconvenient. Should it be merely a
    “right of choice” for Conservatives to simply murder Liberals?

  • http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian

    I guess it’s politically incorrect to like Pastor Jones. Well, I do like him, he’s standing up against radical Islam, he’s hitting them where it hurts. Instead of condemning Jones, we should be condemning the violent Muslims. After all, Christians don’t commit violence every time a Christian bible is burned, and oh yes, there’s plenty of New and Old Testament burnings on youtube.

    WHY I LIKE THE RIGHT.
    http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/04/why-i-like-right.html

  • Cory Rodriguez

    Bottom Line… Terry Jones and his followers are to blame for the death of those 11 human beings, and who knows how many more to come!

  • lane

    You are always SOLELY responsible for your actions, and those who understand this concept thrive regardless of circumstance or challenge. It is true for people and true for countries.

    Afghanistan and similar countries are corrupt and desolate with little opportunity to work hard and make a good life. That’s the core issue, not religion or stupid stuff.

  • Pablo

    Cory Rodriguez said:
    Bottom Line… Terry Jones and his followers are to blame for the death of those 11 human beings, and who knows how many more to come!

    Bottom line: Lennon and McCartney are responsible for the Tate-LaBianca murders and who knows how many more? Well, Allah knows, right?

  • Nachi

    Rev Terry’s a fine, typical, Conservative Murcuhn patriot. Be proud of him & cease your complaining. He’s one of you. No more – no less.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    What they’re lacking is our culture’s core respect for religious differences.

    So far two resident libs choked on this one. In this, one may begin to understand why it sometimes appears as if progressives have more in common with America’s enemies than their fellow conservative citizens. For some, we simply don’t share the same values.

    It couldn’t be explained any more clearly what I meant by tolerance, for those who know it. It’s a fundamental principle of our society, enshrined in the first amendment. The demands our society is such that we insist on adhering to it’s forms, even if this respect isn’t ingrained. Yet they cannot identify the true meaning of tolerance when it’s phrased in an unfamiliar manner from an unapproved source. Tolerance isn’t facile pleasantry to those radically different than you. It’s not strict observance of PC word restrictions so as not to offend. It’s the fundamental understanding that one shall not be forced to another’s will.

    But that’s not what progressivism teaches. So these libs hide in craven PCism to disguise their true intolerance under camouflage of multi-cultural respect. But they’re just as willing to use political force to exert control as are the worst of our enemies. It’s just that they’re not forming angry, violent mobs to enforce adherence to their creeds. Well, unless you live in Greece. Or London.

  • Davo

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    But that’s not what progressivism teaches. So these libs hide in craven PCism to disguise their true intolerance under camouflage of multi-cultural respect. But they’re just as willing to use political force to exert control as are the worst of our enemies. It’s just that they’re not forming angry, violent mobs to enforce adherence to their creeds. Well, unless you live in Greece. Or London.

    Or Wisconsin, or wherever they are denied their demands. They also will find any means possible to thwart the will of the people and/or the law to achieve their demands. I believe this is why you notice a parallel and apparent bond between Liberals and America’s enemies……………they both consider America their enemy.

  • X-3

    Total Jackass is putting it mildly. While the Pastor was within his rights to express himself, discretion is the better part of valor. I wonder how this man is going to square what he did with God?

  • X-3

    Nachi said:
    Rev Terry’s a fine, typical, Conservative Murcuhn patriot. Be proud of him & cease your complaining. He’s one of you. No more – no less.

    You’re a typical anal retentive liberal moron.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Davo said:
    I believe that “a woman has the right of choice as regards to her OWN body.” I also believe that a living fetus whereby brain activity can be observed also has the “right of choice as regards to” it’s OWN body. The unborn child is NOT the woman’s body.

    It’s insane to murder living humans simply because others consider them inconvenient. Should it be merely a
    “right of choice” for Conservatives to simply murder Liberals?

    Don’t know where you got your MD. Scientific definition of “live” is capable of sustaining life independently. Until a fetus is capable of surviving independent of the womb, it is a parasite on the woman’s body and not alive.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Don’t know where you got your MD. Scientific definition of “live” is capable of sustaining life independently. Until a fetus is capable of surviving independent of the womb, it is a parasite on the woman’s body and not alive.

    Something tells me you’ve been waiting for hours, if not days, to be able to call a fetus a ‘parasite.’

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Something tells me you’ve been waiting for hours, if not days, to be able to call a fetus a ‘parasite.’

    Look up the word. It’s not pejorative. It means a life-form that requires another to survive. It’s your sick mind that makes it evil.

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