Don’t even TELL me that I’m going to have to start calling Glenn (JESUS) Beck a RINO just like ShepTURD Smith!!!!11 SCIENTIFIC FACTS show that children MUST be raised by a MAN and a WOMAN!!!!1 When a child is raised by two “mothers” or two “fathers” they become PSYCHOPATHS with NO VALUES!!!1 I WEEP for the future of our Once Proud Republic!!!!1 Marriage = MAN+WOMAN!!!!!!1111

“I don’t think the government has anything to do with marriage,” he explained, “it is a religious right.”

Yet O’Reilly pressed again, asking, “Do you believe that gay marriage is a threat to the country?” Beck scoffed, smiled, and asked in faux-terror “Are the gays going to come and get us?”

Hold on a second. Was O’Reilly’s guest a Huffington Post commentator? Well-said Mr. Beck. You and I agree on something.

. “I don’t think the government has anything to do with marriage,” he explained, “it is a religious right”

Funny cause that’s what I’ve been saying.

“Do you believe that gay marriage is a threat to the country?” Beck scoffed, smiled, and asked in faux-terror “Are the gays going to come and get us?” before making his final point on the matter: “I believe that Thomas Jefferson said ‘if it neither breaks my leg, nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?’”

Well wonders will never cease-first fox wants to build a gay bar and now their biggest draw in a decade just quote my personal fave founding father to drop the smack-down on the anit-gay marriage crowd. Oh this is FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC-BETTER THAN CHRISTMAS KWANZA AND EASTER ROLLED INTO ONE BIG BALL OF YUM YUM!

Yes for once I must agree; Beck is 100% right and like evry conservative here says he’s no liar and deals in facts so y’all better just let go of the notion that this is a center right cuntry because Glenn Beck just pushed it farther to the left with the awesome power of the fox network backing him up!!!

Yes between his show, and Bill-O the number one voice in cable news this incredibly powerful world altering message will spread far and wide!!!!

Thank FOX!!! You keep those conservatives on the right track, ya hear?

He must be a RINO!

‘He must be a RINO!”

Or as the conservatives here love to say “Show me where Beck is lying!!!!”

NYUCK!!!!!!

YOOOOO HOOOOO

Where are all the loud mouth conservative shills? Shouldn’t they be rushing here to attack the messenger?
Or is this article simply too painful for their tiny little hearts and atrophied brains to bear?

I guess Beck’s heart grew three sizes yesterday with this one!!!

They are crying in their breakfast cereal.

This is not news to any regular listener/viewer of Glenn Beck. We know he’s a “recovering Republican” and has become more and more libertarian over the past few years.

The rodeo clown strikes again. Nice Glenn.

yawwwwn.

If you people actually followed Glenn for the past 10 years or so , you would realize that he holds a lot  of libertian views , and is not a republican or hardcore conservative. However since  he has led the charge exposing your dearly beloved Obama ( God forbid you strongly disagree with a president ! ) an unprecedented character assassination by the Left has taken place. 

All you have to do is read liberal blogs and commenters around the web and you will see they haven’t an original thought on Glenn and most likely never watched his show . They are just leftist sheep spouting the same parroted anti- beck bullshit .    
    

Bootleghaircut said:
‘He must be a RINO!”

Or as the conservatives here love to say “Show me where Beck is lying!!!!”

NYUCK!!!!!!

The meth is good this morning, eh booty?

Bootleghaircut said:
Where are all the loud mouth conservative shills? Shouldn’t they be rushing here to attack the messenger?
Or is this article simply too painful for their tiny little hearts and atrophied brains to bear?

Hold on, Dick Cheney will be right there! Oh, wait. That’s not gonna work. Would you settle for Barack Obama?

Murf, it was more fun watching Paul, Boot and Val giddily jerk off over discovering that Glenn Beck doesn’t care about gay marriage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90

Azarkhan said:
Murf, it was more fun watching Paul, Boot and Val giddily jerk off over discovering that Glenn Beck doesn’t care about gay marriage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90

Glad you enjoyed it. Your puerile vulgarity is also enjoyable.

Pablo said:
Hold on, Dick Cheney will be right there! Oh, wait. That’s not gonna work. Would you settle for Barack Obama?

Good. Maybe sanity is taking over on this issue.

Relax. Go to it!

Azarkhan said:
Relax. Go to it!

You relax Frankie.

murf said:
an unprecedented character assassination by the Left has taken place

Unprecedented?

“Consider these tallies from Glenn Beck’s show on Fox News since Obama’s inauguration: 202 mentions of Nazis or Nazism, according to transcripts, 147 mentions of Hitler, 193 mentions of fascism or fascist, and another 24 bonus mentions of Joseph Goebbels. Most of these were directed in some form at Obama — as were the majority of the 802 mentions of socialist or socialism on Beck’s nightly “report.”"

Character assassination? Sometimes. Unprecedented? Not even close.

“Hold on, Dick Cheney will be right there! Oh, wait. That’s not gonna work. Would you settle for Barack Obama?”

Great its SETTLED THEN!!! ANYBODY WHO COUNTS IS PRO GAY MARRIAGE!!!1

THANKS PABLO!!!

Azarkhan said:
Murf, it was more fun watching Paul, Boot and Val giddily jerk off over discovering that Glenn Beck doesn’t care about gay marriage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90

I have been saying all along that Beck, the rodeo clown, is not what he appears to be. Beck is St. Patrick blowing his flute and leading the rats into the river.

“St. Patrick blowing his flute and leading the rats into the river”

Valkyrie,

You so intelligent with all the big smarts! But uh, it’s the Pied Piper of Hamelin laying down the blow, sweetheart. You’re lips are on the wrong flute.

PS: St. Patrick did the thing with the snakes.

Glenn doesn’t focus on the “culture war”, because it becomes a distraction. The left will focus on that to try to distract people from what he’s actually talking about. Case in point, this article. The left would much rather talk about this than say the economy. And I don’t blame them:

New claims for unemployment aid reach 484K

New applications for jobless benefits rise to highest since February as layoffs continue

WASHINGTON (AP) — The employment picture is looking bleaker as applications for jobless benefits rose last week to the highest level in almost six months.

It’s a sign that hiring is weak and employers are still cutting their staffs.

First-time claims for jobless benefits edged up by 2,000 to a seasonally adjusted 484,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. Analysts had expected a drop. That’s the highest total since February.

Initial claims have now risen in three of the last four weeks and are close to their high point for the year of 490,000, reached in late January. The four-week average, which smooths volatility, soared by 14,250 to 473,500, also the highest since late February.

Analysts said that the unexpected rise in claims suggests hiring in August won’t be much better than July. The economy added a net 12,000 jobs last month after excluding the loss of temporary census positions.

The jobless claims report “represents a very adverse turn in the labor market, threatening income growth and consumer spending,” Pierre Ellis, an economist at Decision Economics, wrote in a note to clients.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-claims-for-unemployment-apf-3180551258.html?x=0&.v=1

Obama July Deficit of $167 Billion Tops Bush Deficit For Entire Year of 2007

The Obama Administration announced today that the July deficit totaled $165 billion…
That’s more than the Bush deficit for the entire year of 2007.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/08/obama-july-deficit-of-167-billion-tops-bush-deficit-for-entire-year-of-2007/

valkyrie101 said:
Unprecedented?

“Consider these tallies from Glenn Beck’s show on Fox News since Obama’s inauguration: 202 mentions of Nazis or Nazism, according to transcripts, 147 mentions of Hitler, 193 mentions of fascism or fascist, and another 24 bonus mentions of Joseph Goebbels. Most of these were directed in some form at Obama — as were the majority of the 802 mentions of socialist or socialism on Beck’s nightly “report.””

Character assassination? Sometimes. Unprecedented? Not even close.

Unless you’re providing some context this tired overplayed talking point is useless.

Bootleghaircut said:
Great its SETTLED THEN!!! ANYBODY WHO COUNTS IS PRO GAY MARRIAGE!!!1

THANKS PABLO!!!

Nice to see you didn’t read that Barack Obama link, booty.

“The president does oppose same-sex marriage, but he supports equality for gay and lesbian couples, and benefits and other issues, and that has been effectuated in federal agencies under his control,” White House adviser David Axelrod said on MSNBC.

paulmdoro said:
He must be a RINO!

This tells me that you neither listen to Beck, nor know anything about him other than the drivel you read. Beck has never claimed to be a Republican. Actually, when the conventional wisdom was that Hillary would be the dem nominee, Beck stated that he would vote for her above McCain. Beck is very Libertarian.

This is what happens when you pigeonhole people with pre-conceived bias.

MichelleF said:
Glenn doesn’t focus on the “culture war”, because it becomes a distraction. The left will focus on that to try to distract people from what he’s actually talking about. Case in point, this article. The left would much rather talk about this than say the economy. And I don’t blame them:

Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here.

lanquihue said:
This tells me that you neither listen to Beck, nor know anything about him other than the drivel you read. Beck has never claimed to be a Republican. Actually, when the conventional wisdom was that Hillary would be the dem nominee, Beck stated that he would vote for her above McCain. Beck is very Libertarian.

This is what happens when you pigeonhole people with pre-conceived bias.

Settle down. It was a joke meant in jest. No need to get hysterical.

Pablo said:
Unless you’re providing some context this tired overplayed talking point is useless.

What is the context? Glenn wasn’t comparing the president or progressives to Nazis or Hitler was he?

Paul, I’m not being revisionist, I leave that to you libs. I never said the culture wars weren’t important, I think they are VERY important. My point is the left uses it as a distraction from other issues. Whether or not gays can marry is kind of irrelevent if the country goes bankrupt!

paulmdoro said:
Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here.

Wait, who decided that gay marriage was an issue that needed addressing? When?

Azarkhan said:
“St. Patrick blowing his flute and leading the rats into the river” Valkyrie, You so intelligent with all the big smarts! But uh, it’s the Pied Piper of Hamelin laying down the blow, sweetheart. You’re lips are on the wrong flute. PS: St. Patrick did the thing with the snakes.

You are correct that I got the legend wrong. According to legend, St. Patrick did the flute thing with snakes, not rats. Either way…

MichelleF said:
Paul, I’m not being revisionist, I leave that to you libs. I never said the culture wars weren’t important, I think they are VERY important. My point is the left uses it as a distraction from other issues. Whether or not gays can marry is kind of irrelevent if the country goes bankrupt!

Michelle, who has been using culture wars as a distraction from other issues since 1980? That would be the GOP. Again, you’re being revisionist here.

Pablo said:
Wait, who decided that gay marriage was an issue that needed addressing? When?

Wait, I said culture wars in reference to a point Michelle made.

Glenn is doing the same thing with his upcoming “God is talking to me” event.

You don’t think the gay marriage flap is part of the culture war? Really?

Pablo said:
You don’t think the gay marriage flap is part of the culture war? Really?

Trying to really twist what I say? Of course gay marriage is part of the culture wars, and in that post I was specifically referring to the overall culture wars and not any single issue. Please don’t put words in my mouth.

Hey Val, did you ever find that link to the Repub HC plan that said it was going to do away with medicare? I didn’t find it on the other thread.

Pablo said:
Unless you’re providing some context this tired overplayed talking point is useless.

Yes, the context is this: Glenn has referred to or compared the POTUS and his administration to Nazis over two hundred times in less than two years.

Valk , what’s your point ? Can you even imagine if Bush has communist/Marxist / Socialist ties and history ? Wait .. Don’t answer that .. to be honest this thread will probably get between 100-130 comments, the daily repetition is tiresome and boring . Have a great day everyone .

MichelleF said:
Hey Val, did you ever find that link to the Repub HC plan that said it was going to do away with medicare? I didn’t find it on the other thread.

That would be impossible, the republicans never had a health care plan. But many conservative tea partiers do advocate doing away with the “socialist” medicare and social security systems. Correct?

“Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here” paulmdoro

Boy, read your history. Reagan was a reaction to the Left’s attempt to destroy every cultural norm in this country. While reading, pay special attention to Reagan’s terms as Gov. of California.

(“Revisionist” my ass! Big word like that coming from you! Who you tryin’ to fool? We be well schooled in how you negroes try to rewrite history, so don’t you start!)

murf said:
Valk , what’s your point ? Can you even imagine if Bush has communist/Marxist / Socialist ties and history ? Wait .. Don’t answer that .. to be honest this thread will probably get between 100-130 comments, the daily repetition is tiresome and boring . Have a great day everyone .

It was wrong for liberals to make those comparisons regarding Bush and it’s wrong for conservatives to do it now as well.

Azarkhan said:
“Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here” paulmdoro

Boy, read your history. Reagan was a reaction to the Left’s attempt to destroy every cultural norm in this country. While reading, pay special attention to Reagan’s terms as Gov. of California.

(“Revisionist” my ass! Big word like that coming from you! Who you tryin’ to fool? We be well schooled in how you negroes try to rewrite history, so don’t you start!)

That is why Reagan was elected? Because liberals were trying to destroy every cultural norm? Are you American? Who taught your history courses?

Regardless of why you believe Reagan was elected, the culture wars were initially made an issue and pushed by the GOP. That’s a given, something I assumed everyone knew and recognized and wouldn’t argue. Guess I was wrong.

Val, 2 lies in one post, a new record. The R’s did have a plan and just yesterday, you said THEIR PLAN included doing away with medicare. I’m with Murf, you guys are starting to bore me. I’m off to work. With the way the economy is going, I’ll enjoy every minute of work!!

murf said:
Valk , what’s your point ? Can you even imagine if Bush has communist/Marxist / Socialist ties and history ? Wait .. Don’t answer that .. to be honest this thread will probably get between 100-130 comments, the daily repetition is tiresome and boring . Have a great day everyone .

In debate, when someone can not defeat the opponents arguments on their merit, they may go after the person. That is known as the “poisoning of the wells” tactic. Thus, calling the president a communist, or a marxist, socialist, illegal alien, racist, etc. Its lame, but people without a leg to stand on will often do it.

“St. Patrick did the flute thing ”

Course he did. That’s why every St. Patrick’s Day parade band has a big ass horn section.

valkyrie101 said:
In debate, when someone can not defeat the opponents arguments on their merit,

Why would someone want to defend the opponents argument?

“That’s a given, something I assumed everyone knew and recognized and wouldn’t argue. Guess I was wrong.” paulmdoro

You know what they say about assuming? You just might make an ass of yourself.

valkyrie101 said:
In debate, when someone can not defeat the opponents arguments on their merit, they may go after the person. That is known as the “poisoning of the wells” tactic. Thus, calling the president a communist, or a marxist, socialist, illegal alien, racist, etc. Its lame, but people without a leg to stand on will often do it.

The old ad hominem approach.

Azarkhan said:
“That’s a given, something I assumed everyone knew and recognized and wouldn’t argue. Guess I was wrong.” paulmdoro

You know what they say about assuming? You just might make an ass of yourself.

Not in this case, not arguing with someone like you. Next you’ll tell me the earth is flat and 5,000 years old.

MichelleF said:
Val, 2 lies in one post, a new record. The R’s did have a plan and just yesterday, you said THEIR PLAN included doing away with medicare. I’m with Murf, you guys are starting to bore me. I’m off to work. With the way the economy is going, I’ll enjoy every minute of work!!

BECK (December 2009): “And, wait wait wait. And I also said why don’t you just abolish Medicare, because it’s so wildly corrupt and out of control. It’s so inefficient, it is so bad and there’s $47 billion in suspected wrong payments, okay, in Medicare. So what are they saying — now remember, what we’re going to do — the compromise is we’re going to expand Medicare. That way there won’t be a public option, we’ll just — which doesn’t make any sense — we’re going to expand Medicare.”

So yes, the republicans have no plan. But if they did have one, it would be to abolish medicare.

I agree with Beck on this issue. The government has no right to be in marriage issues. Somethings I agree with him on and others I don’t. Its nice to see he pisses the partisans off though.

” Next you’ll tell me the earth is flat and 5,000 years old.” paulmdoro

Actually the next thing I was going to say is that you’re pretty stupid, but hey, if “the earth is flat” gets you all giddy, go with it.

“Val, 2 lies in one post, a new record. The R’s did have a plan and just yesterday, you said THEIR PLAN included doing away with medicare. I’m with Murf, you guys are starting to bore me. I’m off to work. With the way the economy is going, I’ll enjoy every minute of work!!”

Good riddance.

“So yes, the republicans have no plan. But if they did have one, it would be to abolish medicare.” Valkryrie

Sorta like the way your words have no meaning.

Azarkhan said:
” Next you’ll tell me the earth is flat and 5,000 years old.” paulmdoro

Actually the next thing I was going to say is that you’re pretty stupid, but hey, if “the earth is flat” gets you all giddy, go with it.

Wow. Stupid. Am I a dummy head too? Or a poop brain? Do your parents know your abusing your Internet privileges again?

Maybe you should write a book titled “Revisionist History 101.” You’re off to a good start.

Paul,

They named a song after you-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVHrvx-Ua68

Azarkhan said:
Paul,

They named a song after you-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVHrvx-Ua68

LOL. Wow. Zing! You got me! All that time spent at the middle school playground is paying off big time!

“Azarkhan says:
August 12, 2010 at 10:12 am Azarkhan(Quote)
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Paul,

They named a song after you-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVHrvx-Ua68”

Rule #1: never click on a link posted by an idiot in the comment section of blog.

paulmdoro said:
Not in this case, not arguing with someone like you. Next you’ll tell me the earth is flat and 5,000 years old.

No, that would be the evangelical Christians who say that.

“All that time spent at the middle school playground is paying off big time!”

You’re right. I was a terrible student. The playground was my forte, if you will.

“Rule #1:” Maggot Brain is a great album.

I guess we can now expect to see all the new “Professional Left” Beck Fans down in DC at the end of the month!

If this keeps going on, msnbc will have NO Viewers, and Gibbs won’t know who to rail against!!!

LOL!!

Karl Spensen says: “Don’t even TELL me that I’m going to have to start calling Glenn (JESUS) Beck a RINO just like ShepTURD Smith!!!!11 SCIENTIFIC FACTS show that children MUST be raised by a MAN and a WOMAN!!!!1 When a child is raised by two “mothers” or two “fathers” they become PSYCHOPATHS with NO VALUES!!!1 I WEEP for the future of our Once Proud Republic!!!!1 Marriage = MAN+WOMAN!!!!!!1111″

“Glenn (JESUS) Beck”?!?!? It’s clear from your absurd rant that you live in a parallel universe. There are no studies showing that, and if you watched a real news station, instead of the right wing, deceitful propaganda pretending to be news, you’d know that the judge in CA. confirmed this. Your views are based upon baseless opinion of a troubling minority. Your universe is upside down. You would not recognize a scientific fact if one bit your nose off. I’ve read some pretty irrational rants on here and on AOL story boards, but Karl does his level best to take the cake with this comment.

Beck has avoided making a comment on the repeal of Don’t ask don’t tell.Now we know why.He is in the classic Catch 22 situation.As a pussy wingnut who never served in the military but sure as hell supports the wars somebody else has to fight he would look like a phony.But he already pissed off the birthers so he can’t look like a Homo lover to the teabaggers by supporting Gays in the military.So just ignore it like it does not exist.

NORBIT says: “I guess we can now expect to see all the new “Professional Left” Beck Fans down in DC at the end of the month!”

Just because Beck gets something right twice a day doesn’t mean that his clock is working. Beck is a burn out, former addict who likely has no idea when he’s being an utter hypocrite. Either that, or he really has no set principles.

What Beck would have pointed out if he were actually an informed person is that rights, the right to gay marriage, cannot be denied by a majority. That’s what rights do; they protect the minorities.

Did anyone notice that Beck did not focus on Jefferson when he was doing his Founders Fridays shows? Jefferson opposed something Beck supports: the unity of church and state.

chucken says: “Beck has avoided making a comment on the repeal of Don’t ask don’t tell.Now we know why.He is in the classic Catch 22 situation.As a pussy wingnut who never served in the military but sure as hell supports the wars somebody else has to fight he would look like a phony.”

Chucken, Beck is a phony. Beck has no idea how the Constitution works. See: http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/glenn-beck-thinker-pundit-or-charlatan.html

paulmdoro said:
Trying to really twist what I say? Of course gay marriage is part of the culture wars, and in that post I was specifically referring to the overall culture wars and not any single issue. Please don’t put words in my mouth.

Hold on there, buddy. You said:

Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan.

I bring up the foremost culture war issue of the day, wholly created and promoted by the left, and you do your very best to ignore the truth of that fact. And that’s me putting words in your mouth? Please.

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, the context is this: Glenn has referred to or compared the POTUS and his administration to Nazis over two hundred times in less than two years.

That isn’t context, it’s gibberish. What does “Glenn has referred to the POTUS and his administration to Nazis” mean?

paulmdoro said:
It was wrong for liberals to make those comparisons regarding Bush and it’s wrong for conservatives to do it now as well.

False comparisons are wrong. Accurate comparisons are not. Unless you’re going to detail the comparisons, you cannot argue with them.

Pablo said:
That isn’t context, it’s gibberish. What does “Glenn has referred to the POTUS and his administration to Nazis” mean?

This is a bad argument for you, Pablo. Just let it go. Besides Nazis, no telling how many hundreds of times Beck has referred to Obama and his administration as Marxists. Just accept the fact, as I originally said, that character assassination is part of Glenn’s MO.

Pablo said:
That isn’t context, it’s gibberish. What does “Glenn has referred to the POTUS and his administration to Nazis” mean?

Pablo has Beck compared the president or his administration or progressives to Nazis or Hitler? Why does he mention Nazis and Hitler in the first place?

valkyrie101 said:
In debate, when someone can not defeat the opponents arguments on their merit, they may go after the person.

Referring to the foundations and origins of another’s argument is arguing the merits. It is not ad hominem to do so.

Pablo said:
False comparisons are wrong. Accurate comparisons are not. Unless you’re going to detail the comparisons, you cannot argue with them.

Pablo, comparing a president to Nazis or Hitler or a Communist is moronic and ignorant, your semantics notwithstanding.

valkyrie101 said:
This is a bad argument for you, Pablo. Just let it go. Besides Nazis, no telling how many hundreds of times Beck has referred to Obama and his administration as Marxists. Just accept the fact, as I originally said, that character assassination is part of Glenn’s MO.

No, I have a beeter iodea. Why don’t you back your argument up with some context instead of thinking that you can dismiss Glenn’s out of hand because you don’t like the word Marxist? Marxism exists, and there’s plenty of it in Obama’s circle. That is a simple fact. Truth is not character assassination.

paulmdoro said:
Pablo, comparing a president to Nazis or Hitler or a Communist is moronic and ignorant, your semantics notwithstanding.

“I hate inconvenient truths!”

You believe it was not valid to compare Bush to Hitler or Nazis but it is valid to compare Obama to them? You really believe that?

I think it’s perfectly fair to compare Obama to the communists. Like his hero Saul Alinsky, for example. Or his mentor, Frank Marshall Davis. Or his father. All communists.

paulmdoro said:
You believe it was not valid to compare Bush to Hitler or Nazis but it is valid to compare Obama to them? You really believe that?

Pablo said:
I think it’s perfectly fair to compare Obama to the communists. Like his hero Saul Alinsky, for example. Or his mentor, Frank Marshall Davis. Or his father. All communists.

Oh NO! Someone get the spirit of Joseph McCarthy on line 1!

paulmdoro said:
You believe it was not valid to compare Bush to Hitler or Nazis but it is valid to compare Obama to them? You really believe that?

Of course it was not valid to compare Bush to Hitler. Duh. And I voted for Bush (twice), and unlike Obama, I supported the decision to invade Iraq. The accusations against Bush came almost entirely from wingnuts. But Glenn is the leading spokesperson for the conservatives, with the most popular show out there, and his accusations relating to Nazis and Marxists are virtually every day. To be objective, you have to admit, that is a far cry from what Bush had to deal with.

Pablo says: “Why don’t you back your argument up with some context instead of thinking that you can dismiss Glenn’s out of hand because you don’t like the word Marxist? Marxism exists, and there’s plenty of it in Obama’s circle.”

Pablo: Name names. Beck is a savvy, systematic liar, and only gullible wing-nuts believe the nonsense he spouts. Name one person YOU think is a Marxist on the Administration. Beck doesn’t tell the truth a lot. I have proven this over and over. See http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com

Beck is a gifted but ignorant charlatan, and only the gullible are going along with his yellow propaganda. Pablo, that be you and millions of other people who are fooled all of the time.

valkyrie101 said:
Of course it was not valid to compare Bush to Hitler. Duh. And I voted for Bush (twice), and unlike Obama, I supported the decision to invade Iraq. The accusations against Bush came almost entirely from wingnuts. But Glenn is the leading spokesperson for the conservatives, with the most popular show out there, and his accusations relating to Nazis and Marxists are virtually every day. To be objective, you have to admit, that is a far cry from what Bush had to deal with.

I was asking Pablo Val.

Oops, paul, didn’t mean to rant in your direction. :-)

GlennBeckReview said:
Karl Spensen Your universe is upside down. You would not recognize a scientific fact if one bit your nose off. I’ve read some pretty irrational rants on here and on AOL story boards, but Karl does his level best to take the cake with this comment.

gul·li·ble : –adjective , easily deceived or cheated

valkyrie101 said:
But Glenn is the leading spokesperson for the conservatives, with the most popular show out there, and his accusations relating to Nazis and Marxists are virtually every day.

Nazis, no. Marxists, yes. The comparisons are valid. Obama’s documented connections to self avowed communists are numerous and deep. Many of Obama’s philosophies are socialist. I really don’t care if you like those facts, but they remain facts, and there’s nothing wrong with stating them. The truth will set you free.

Now, quote something Beck has said comparing Obama to Hitler. Context, please. Word counts are not context.

Pablo said:
Referring to the foundations and origins of another’s argument is arguing the merits. It is not ad hominem to do so.

Pretty much any time you address a person’s position by comparing it to Hitler, you have committed an ad hominem.

“Context, please. Word counts are not context.”

Pablo, you’re wasting your time. You know how testicular the Left gets about Glenn Beck. It’s an itch they gotta scratch.

Pablo said:
Nazis, no. Marxists, yes. The comparisons are valid. Obama’s documented connections to self avowed communists are numerous and deep. Many of Obama’s philosophies are socialist. I really don’t care if you like those facts, but they remain facts, and there’s nothing wrong with stating them. The truth will set you free.

Now, quote something Beck has said comparing Obama to Hitler. Context, please. Word counts are not context.

Someone seems to have a hard time distinguishing facts from opinions.

GlennBeckReview said:
Pablo: Name names

Read the thread, dumbass. Being the Biggest Loser on the Internet doesn’t leave a lot of time for reading comprehension, does it?

Beck is a savvy, systematic liar, and only gullible wing-nuts believe the nonsense he spouts.

Oh, so people should get out and fight against gay marriage, then? Heh.

paulmdoro said:
Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here.

The Great Society was just a boatload of domestic spending programs proposed & enacted by someone called Lyndon B. Johnson. It’s two mais goals was the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. (Culture War?)

New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period. (Culture War?)

Did You Know: Some Great Society proposals were stalled initiatives from John F. Kennedy’s New Frontier. (Culture War?)

Now……..get ready………..The Great Society’s programs expanded under the administrations of Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. OMG! I’m shocked the great enlightened Paul said Culture Wars for Republicans started under Reagan!

Damn those revisionist History Books!

Oh! one last thing, I didn’t know in your pigeon-hole world one who had any Conservative thoughts what so ever was to have Cereal. I had an apple this morning. Cereal is such a bunch of overly processed who-knows-what.

valkyrie101 said:
Pretty much any time you address a person’s position by comparing it to Hitler, you have committed an ad hominem.

So, you could quote something like that and point out the ad hominem then, right?

puck30 said:
The Great Society was just a boatload of domestic spending programs proposed & enacted by someone called Lyndon B. Johnson. It’s two mais goals was the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. (Culture War?)

New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period. (Culture War?)

Did You Know: Some Great Society proposals were stalled initiatives from John F. Kennedy’s New Frontier. (Culture War?)

Now……..get ready………..The Great Society’s programs expanded under the administrations of Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. OMG! I’m shocked the great enlightened Paul said Culture Wars for Republicans started under Reagan!

Damn those revisionist History Books!

Oh! one last thing, I didn’t know in your pigeon-hole world one who had any Conservative thoughts what so ever was to have Cereal. I had an apple this morning. Cereal is such a bunch of overly processed who-knows-what.

Wait so poverty and racial injustice are considered parts of the culture wars?

Glenn Beck: a true American,icon, hero and patriot!

paulmdoro said:
Wait so poverty and racial injustice are considered parts of the culture wars?

Are riots part of the culture war?

Pablo said:
Nazis, no. Marxists, yes. The comparisons are valid. Obama’s documented connections to self avowed communists are numerous and deep. Many of Obama’s philosophies are socialist. I really don’t care if you like those facts, but they remain facts, and there’s nothing wrong with stating them. The truth will set you free. Now, quote something Beck has said comparing Obama to Hitler. Context, please. Word counts are not context.

No way I am going to track down the “context” for all of the hundreds of Beck references to Nazi with respect to Obama or his administration. You can do that as easily as me. But here is a link to a media matters article relating to that with several direct links to Beck speaking, in context. Knock yourself out. http://mediamatters.org/blog/201006020039

notsofast said:
Glenn Beck: a true American,icon, hero and patriot!

Yes, he may be that. But for different reasons than you imagine.

Pablo said:
So, you could quote something like that and point out the ad hominem then, right?

Its kind of a joke among bloggers on how long it takes a heated discussion to reach the point where someone compares the other person’s argument to “Nazis”. With respect to that, however, Glenn cuts right to the chase. Usually in record time. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/16/AR2010071602855.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

valkyrie101 said:
No way I am going to track down the “context” for all of the hundreds of Beck references to Nazi with respect to Obama or his administration.

I didn’t ask for all of them, now did I?

valkyrie101 said:
Its kind of a joke among bloggers on how long it takes a heated discussion to reach the point where someone compares the other person’s argument to “Nazis”. With respect to that, however, Glenn cuts right to the chase. Usually in record time. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/16/AR2010071602855.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Linking to where you copied and pasted your beloved word count (Dana Milbank, ferchrissakes?) does not quote Beck.

What the hell did Beck talk about when he was on CNN? It seems like he’s been on FNC forever, with very specific targets, but he was on CNN for quite a while. What were his pet causes then? Or are they the same?

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, he may be that. But for different reasons than you imagine.

I don’t think so.

I think most of us agree with his position on gay marriage: Who cares as long was we don’t have a dick up our ass?

You have a way with words notsofast.

paulmdoro said:
Who cares as long was we don’t have a dick up our ass?

That sounds like Stuff Jefferson Said.

Oh Paul! please read again in ‘your own words what you said’.

“Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here.”

You said that the right “made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan.”

I pointed out that Nixon & Ford made the culture wars an issue and I do believe they were before Reagan.

And your answer is:” Wait so poverty and racial injustice are considered parts of the culture wars? ”

Now could you please tell me how we can go from “the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan.” TO “Wait so poverty and racial injustice are considered parts of the culture wars?”

Sorry, can’t move the goalposts today.

Did you know: Nixon initiated the Environmental Decade by signing the National Environmental Policy Act, the Clean Air Act of 1970 and the Federal Water Pollution Control Act amendments of 1972, The Clean Air Act was noted as one of the most significant pieces of environmental legislation ever signed. (Culture War?)

Did you know: Richard Nixon witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. (Culture War?) And it wasn’t easy, remember George Wallace?

The Equal Rights Amendment was passed and signed into law during the Nixon years. (Culture War?)

And get ready, better be sitting down for this……………Roe v. Wade passed during the Nixon years, though Nixon himself did not speak about this in public, in later books he did say he was pro-choice. Pat Nixon was very outspoken about her support for legalized abortion. (Culture War?).

I do believe Nixon came before Reagan. Do you want me to start with Ford?

paulmdoro said:
What the hell did Beck talk about when he was on CNN? It seems like he’s been on FNC forever, with very specific targets, but he was on CNN for quite a while. What were his pet causes then? Or are they the same?

Answer: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=glenn+beck+cnn&aq=f

GlennBeckReview said:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com

Jesus, when you feel the need to call yourself “GlennBeckReview” and post links to websites called “sharethisaboutglennbeck”, I’d say you’re pretty much obsessed with the guy. It’s unhealthy, man, obsessions like that drive people to lose their minds and do crazy things

puck30 said:
Oh Paul! please read again in ‘your own words what you said’.

“Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here.”

You said that the right “made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan.”

I pointed out that Nixon & Ford made the culture wars an issue and I do believe they were before Reagan.

And your answer is:” Wait so poverty and racial injustice are considered parts of the culture wars? ”

Now could you please tell me how we can go from “the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan.” TO “Wait so poverty and racial injustice are considered parts of the culture wars?”

Sorry, can’t move the goalposts today.

Did you know: Nixon initiated the Environmental Decade by signing the National Environmental Policy Act, the Clean Air Act of 1970 and the Federal Water Pollution Control Act amendments of 1972, The Clean Air Act was noted as one of the most significant pieces of environmental legislation ever signed. (Culture War?)

Did you know: Richard Nixon witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. (Culture War?) And it wasn’t easy, remember George Wallace?

The Equal Rights Amendment was passed and signed into law during the Nixon years. (Culture War?)

And get ready, better be sitting down for this……………Roe v. Wade passed during the Nixon years, though Nixon himself did not speak about this in public, in later books he did say he was pro-choice. Pat Nixon was very outspoken about her support for legalized abortion. (Culture War?).

I do believe Nixon came before Reagan. Do you want me to start with Ford?

Yes I did know the above, but thanks. No one is trying to “move the goalposts.” You mentioned poverty and racial injustice before I did.

The culture wars as I think of them today caught fire when Reagan received large support from the conservative Christian community that 4 years prior had large supported Jimmy Carter.

Pablo said:
Linking to where you copied and pasted your beloved word count (Dana Milbank, ferchrissakes?) does not quote Beck.

It wasn’t intended to. Go to media matters for that.

paulmdoro said:
What the hell did Beck talk about when he was on CNN? It seems like he’s been on FNC forever, with very specific targets, but he was on CNN for quite a while. What were his pet causes then? Or are they the same?

His causes were the same, he just didn’t refer to God as often. I started watching his show around June 2008. Beck was very hard on all the candidates and Bush (apparrently he’s not been a Bush fan for years). He really went after everyone involved with tarp and the bailouts, fannie & freddie as well. The main difference between his HLN show and the FOX one is that he had lots of guests on his 30 min show. He’s now phased them out almost completely.

notsofast said:
I don’t think so. I think most of us agree with his position on gay marriage: Who cares as long was we don’t have a dick up our ass?

Fair enough. But was it that issue that moved you to say: “Glenn Beck: a true American,icon, hero and patriot!” ? Didn’t know you were so gay.

“Who cares as long was we don’t have a dick up our ass?”

That’s not what you said last night honey.

Pablo says: “Read the thread, dumbass. Being the Biggest Loser on the Internet doesn’t leave a lot of time for reading comprehension, does it?”

I wrote, “Beck is a savvy, systematic liar, and only gullible wing-nuts believe the nonsense he spouts.”

Wing nut replied, “Oh, so people should get out and fight against gay marriage, then? ”

It’s you who is poor at reading comprehension Pablo, I wrote that Beck is right about twice a day! People will go out and fight against gay marriage no matter what the gonzo propagandist, Beck, believes.

What is amazing, given his deceit and hypocrisy, is that anyone is so gullible as to believe ANYTHING he says.

Oh this just too funny, let’s now take a look at these two statements.

“Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here.”

The culture wars as I think of them today caught fire when Reagan received large support from the conservative Christian community that 4 years prior had large supported Jimmy Carter.

First you say, ‘the right’ made culture wars an issue starting with Reagan. I pointed out the Culture Wars have been going on at least since Kennedy and I’m sure we all would agree before that.

Now instead of starting under Reagan, now you say “it caught fire” under Reagan by the same group who supported Jimmy Carter.

Coach! I was heading for the “starting” goalposts then all of a sudden they moved and became the “it caught fire” goalposts.

When Beck was on CNN he worked for a real news organization and they kept him a tight leash.No way in hell would CNN let him do endless Nazi,Marxist,and Commie comparisions to Obama and the Democrats.When Beck compared Obama’s dead mother and grandparents as communists(if you believe that you too are an idiot) and the President as a racist with a deep hatred for white people and white culture he would have been FIRED on any other network.Fox is the network of whores.

lanquihue says: RE: GlennBeckReview said: http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com

“Jesus, when you feel the need to call yourself “GlennBeckReview” and post links to websites called “sharethisaboutglennbeck”, I’d say you’re pretty much obsessed with the guy.”

Are you going to tell that to the author of the Olbermann blog? How about the Roger Ailes blog? How about the other 3-4 Beck blogs?

I’m not obsessed: I’m focused on America’s Deceiver in Chief. When I get bored, I’ll put my boot up another liar’s ass.

chucken said:
When Beck was on CNN he worked for a real news organization and they kept him a tight leash.No way in hell would CNN let him do endless Nazi,Marxist,and Commie comparisions to Obama and the Democrats.When Beck compared Obama’s dead mother and grandparents as communists(if you believe that you too are an idiot) and the President as a racist with a deep hatred for white people and white culture he would have been FIRED on any other network.Fox is the network of whores.

So what you’re essentially saying is that you never watched the HLN show, right? Because Jonah “fascism” Goldberg was a guest on that show almost every other night.

chucken said:
.When Beck compared Obama’s dead mother and grandparents as communists(if you believe that you too are an idiot) and

Compared them as communists? Engrish much? Oh, and don’t forget his father, the Communist. And Frank Marshall Davis, another communist.

valkyrie101 said:
It wasn’t intended to. Go to media matters for that.

So, you can’t quote him comparing Obama to Hitler, then? But you can denounce that which you can not quote obsessively. I think we’ve settled this.

puck30 said:
Oh this just too funny, let’s now take a look at these two statements.

“Michelle, the right made culture wars an issue in this country, starting with Reagan. Let’s not start with revisionist history here.”

The culture wars as I think of them today caught fire when Reagan received large support from the conservative Christian community that 4 years prior had large supported Jimmy Carter.

First you say, ‘the right’ made culture wars an issue starting with Reagan. I pointed out the Culture Wars have been going on at least since Kennedy and I’m sure we all would agree before that.

Now instead of starting under Reagan, now you say “it caught fire” under Reagan by the same group who supported Jimmy Carter.

Coach! I was heading for the “starting” goalposts then all of a sudden they moved and became the “it caught fire” goalposts.

Semantics. I haven’t moved anything. Nice try though. I’m sure you’re truly outraged.

GlennBeckReview said:
NORBIT says: “I guess we can now expect to see all the new “Professional Left” Beck Fans down in DC at the end of the month!” Just because Beck gets something right twice a day doesn’t mean that his clock is working. Beck is a burn out, former addict who likely has no idea when he’s being an utter hypocrite. Either that, or he really has no set principles. What Beck would have pointed out if he were actually an informed person is that rights, the right to gay marriage, cannot be denied by a majority. That’s what rights do; they protect the minorities. Did anyone notice that Beck did not focus on Jefferson when he was doing his Founders Fridays shows? Jefferson opposed something Beck supports: the unity of church and state.

…and did YOU bestow these “rights”, Review?

Then what about the “rights” of a father-son marriage? or a mother-daughter-cousin-sister marriage? Who determines where these “rights” to marriage end?

Pablo said:
Compared them as communists? Engrish much? Oh, and don’t forget his father, the Communist. And Frank Marshall Davis, another communist.

So, you can’t quote him comparing Obama to Hitler, then? But you can denounce that which you can not quote obsessively. I think we’ve settled this.

Clearly every man in America is exactly like their father in every single way. Mel Gibson, for example, is a Holocaust denier because his father is.

Yes. Every man in America wrote Dreams From My Father.

What is the truth about Glenn Beck? It depends upon who’s saying it.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/what-is-truth-about-glenn-beck.html

GlennBeckReview said:
I’m not obsessed:

GlennBeckReview said:
“Glenn (JESUS) Beck”?!?!? It’s clear from your absurd rant that you live in a parallel universe. There are no studies showing that, and if you watched a real news station, instead of the right wing, deceitful propaganda pretending to be news, you’d know that the judge in CA. confirmed this. Your views are based upon baseless opinion of a troubling minority. Your universe is upside down. You would not recognize a scientific fact if one bit your nose off. I’ve read some pretty irrational rants on here and on AOL story boards, but Karl does his level best to take the cake with this comment.

I will agree . You are not obsesssed. Just not particularly bright.

What is the truth about GlennBeckReview? Biggest Loser on the Internet.

BowenIsland says: “I will agree . You are not obsesssed. Just not particularly bright.”

You have gall to defend the utterly irrational rant of Karl Spensen, who is by any rational understanding insane, and call me “not particularly bright.” Have I suddenly entered the Twilight Zone, or is this AOL, home of the troglodytes?

Try again, BowenIsland: that was weak at best. What fruit bag will you defend next, Glenn Beck?

Karl Spensen is parody, genius.

GlennBeckReview said:
BowenIsland says: “I will agree . You are not obsesssed. Just not particularly bright.”
You have gall to defend the utterly irrational rant of Karl Spensen, who is by any rational understanding insane, and call me “not particularly bright.” Have I suddenly entered the Twilight Zone, or is this AOL, home of the troglodytes?
Try again, BowenIsland: that was weak at best. What fruit bag will you defend next, Glenn Beck?

HAHAHAHAHhahahAHHAHahhahahhaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait……Hahahahahah so …. you really HAHAHAHAhaAhhahhahAhAHhHAhAhaha ……..think that KARL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahAHAhahahAhAhA

Pablo says: “What is the truth about GlennBeckReview? Biggest Loser on the Internet.”

You support Glenn Beck! Looks like you’re living in a house of glass and should not be throwing stones. Let’s see, Beck name calls: you learn well grass huffer.

Bootleghaircut said:
“Who cares as long was we don’t have a dick up our ass?”

That’s not what you said last night honey.

That’s not how you live your life, sperm bank drinker!

GlennBeckReview said:
BowenIsland says: “I will agree . You are not obsesssed. Just not particularly bright.”

You have gall to defend the utterly irrational rant of Karl Spensen, who is by any rational understanding insane, and call me “not particularly bright.” Have I suddenly entered the Twilight Zone, or is this AOL, home of the troglodytes?

Try again, BowenIsland: that was weak at best. What fruit bag will you defend next, Glenn Beck?

So you’re not smart enough to figure out Karl Spensen, but you’ve got lots of keen insight into Glenn Beck? lol

BowenIsland said:
HAHAHAHAHhahahAHHAHahhahahhaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait……Hahahahahah so …. you really HAHAHAHAhaAhhahhahAhAHhHAhAhaha ……..think that KARL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahAHAhahahAhAhA

Yes, he really does. Hilarious, ain’t it?

GlennBeckReview said:
You support Glenn Beck! Looks like you’re living in a house of glass and should not be throwing stones.

Huh? Beck is wildly successful, commercially. Half the planet is talking about him at any given moment. You, OTOH, and the Biggest Loser on the Internet, and the best GlennBeck blog at the Syracuse Examiner. What does that pay?

GlennBeckReview said:
BowenIsland says: “I will agree . You are not obsesssed. Just not particularly bright.”
You have gall to defend the utterly irrational rant of Karl Spensen, who is by any rational understanding insane, and call me “not particularly bright.” Have I suddenly entered the Twilight Zone, or is this AOL, home of the troglodytes?
Try again, BowenIsland: that was weak at best. What fruit bag will you defend next, Glenn Beck?

If I were to use a chalkboard to connect the dots , would that help ?

I guess from now on, the left won’t be vilifying Beck.

Pablo says: “Huh? Beck is wildly successful, commercially. Half the planet is talking about him at any given moment. You, OTOH, and the Biggest Loser on the Internet, and the best GlennBeck blog at the Syracuse Examiner. What does that pay?”

1) The Glenn Beck Review is a blog. The Examiner is a gig that pays very little. It’s my hobby, so what? I’m not doing this for money. 2) Continuing to call me names only reflects poorly on you, and as one of Beck’s followers, on Beck as well. That’s why they call you “Beckerheads.” 3) Beck’s success is proof positive that you can fool some of the people all of the time.

The Glenn Beck Review is a public service. I’m not the only one doing it, but if you look at the other Beck blogs, you’ll see very disrespectful pics of Beck. I use one that shows Beck in a good pose. I don’t mention rumors about Beck. I don’t call him a racist, and when he’s right about something, I point that out.

I stick to the facts: Beck is a liar, a hypocrite and a charlatan. This is proven repeatedly at both sites.

I agree with Beck, we have to get off all the social issues, America is destroying itself. No country that has followed the big-government route, tried to micro-manage its people, felt it knows better how to spend the fruit of it’s peoples labor has ever led to prosperity. People prosper when they are free, when capitialism is encouraged, not dismantled, and the people take responsibility for themselves.

GlennBeckReview said:
The Glenn Beck Review is a public service.

Obsessive lunacy is not a public service any more than public masturbation is.

It’s my hobby, so what? I’m not doing this for money.

Well, duh.

campbell62 says:”I agree with Beck, we have to get off all the social issues, America is destroying itself. No country that has followed the big-government route, tried to micro-manage its people, felt it knows better how to spend the fruit of it’s peoples labor has ever led to prosperity. People prosper when they are free, when capitialism is encouraged, not dismantled,…”

You’re just repeating his nonsense. How is America destroying itself? What “micro-manage[ment of] people” is happening? Capitalism, unregulated capitalism, destroys itself again and again. We’re still in a mess left over from unregulated financial systems.

Beck is an uneducated, deceitful hypocrite. If you agree with what he says, then you need to take his advise: “I say on the air all time, ‘if you take what I say as gospel, you’re an idiot.’ ”

The best public service anyone can do is inspire others to self-education and self-reliance.

GlennBeckReview said:
Karl Spensen is an uneducated, deceitful hypocrite. If you agree with what he says, then you need to take his advise: “I say on the air all time, ‘if you take what I say as gospel, you’re an idiot.’ ”

Perhaps you could start a new blog, The Karl Spensen Review .

LMFAO GLENNBECKREVIEW thought KARL SPENSEN was REAL. !!

He’s a leftie doing a sarcastic SCHTICK you DOPE !!!!

Wow !!’

Ooh. Now Beck is uneducated. Next GBR will have him living in a trailer.

Murf; what name should I have made up for the individual who posted that insanity. Excuse me, I used the one given. If it was sarcasm, then I was fooled because it did sound a lot like the kinds of things heard on the Glenn Beck show.

Writer; care to list his education? One course at Yale hardly qualifies Beck as educated.

Writer: I’m waiting. List Beck’s “education.”

Frances Martel said:
On last night’s O’Reilly Factor, Glenn Beck took a break from fighting his usual wars against Woodrow Wilson and the Progressive movement to answer Bill O’Reilly’s questions on why he so rarely covers “culture war issues.”

It’s pretty simple: Bill O’Reilly, despite claims that he’s an independent, is a staunch busybody — a characteristic he shares with the Progressives.

Glenn Beck is not a busybody. He is very principled, which is why he’s so popular.

GBR, does Olbermann’s Ag degree make him a journalist?

writer, don’t you know you’re not really educated until you have a graduate degree, or at the very least as much of an ‘education’ as the person who used the education attack in the first place has?

Hold on folks, what Beck was saying, if you watched the whole interview, went over O’Reilly’s head and so to of Martel. I know it was hard to get it when O’Reilly kept interupting.
So read my lips, Beck was saying that if the people take care of business and elect the right people and have them select judges that follow the Constitution there will be NO gay marriage. He was telling the people to quit getting tied up in the liberal fake outrage about gay marriage is a civil right. The RIGHT judges will rule that a civil union gives gays equal rights. They will rule that the vote of the people CAN define the definition of marriage and courts have no right to overturn that right based on the PHONY arguement of discrimination.

valkyrie101 said:
That would be impossible, the republicans never had a health care plan. But many conservative tea partiers do advocate doing away with the “socialist” medicare and social security systems. Correct?

Still pushing that same old tired lie that the republicans don’t have any plans…

http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=8516

gordonbloyershow said:
Hold on folks, what Beck was saying, if you watched the whole interview, went over O’Reilly’s head and so to of Martel. I know it was hard to get it when O’Reilly kept interupting.
So read my lips, Beck was saying that if the people take care of business and elect the right people and have them select judges that follow the Constitution there will be NO gay marriage. He was telling the people to quit getting tied up in the liberal fake outrage about gay marriage is a civil right. The RIGHT judges will rule that a civil union gives gays equal rights. They will rule that the vote of the people CAN define the definition of marriage and courts have no right to overturn that right based on the PHONY arguement of discrimination.

This is a complete lie, as Beck said nothing that even hinted at what you’re trying to turn your words to. He clearly said that the government has no place in marriage and it’s solely an individual religious issue. O’Reilly is so stupid that he repeatedly insists that fighting gay marriage is more important than people getting back in touch with their gods and religious beliefs, although the whole basis for fighting gay marriage is in religious beliefs.

gordonbloyershow said:
Hold on folks, what Beck was saying, if you watched the whole interview, went over O’Reilly’s head and so to of Martel. I know it was hard to get it when O’Reilly kept interupting.So read my lips, Beck was saying that if the people take care of business and elect the right people and have them select judges that follow the Constitution there will be NO gay marriage. He was telling the people to quit getting tied up in the liberal fake outrage about gay marriage is a civil right. The RIGHT judges will rule that a civil union gives gays equal rights. They will rule that the vote of the people CAN define the definition of marriage and courts have no right to overturn that right based on the PHONY arguement of discrimination.

The entire Jefferson quote that Beck mentioned is: But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

Always a favorite of mine.

gordonbloyershow says: “So read my lips, Beck was saying that if the people take care of business and elect the right people and have them select judges that follow the Constitution there will be NO gay marriage. ”

Read my words, Gordon BlowHardShow: why do you wipe your ass with the Constitution? Rights are rights; they are not up for popular support. They certainly are not up for your or Beck’s thumbs down.

GBR, wants are not rights. You have no idea what you are talking about. Don’t quit your day job.

Check out my videos about the party of the “working man”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOQeL8Ru7fM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H91bNQ9gURg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrJK5VrDHrg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkNYkDhpBK8

exactly! You don’t “want” gay people to be able to be married, but under the 14th Amemendment they have the “right”.

That’s how this case will be decided (thank you crystal ball) and then you can go back into your deep dark crevices of subhumanity and die off slowly.

conservative = looking backwards and wanting nothing to ever change

progressive = understading change is constant and that there’s, quite possibly, a better way to do things

gordonbloyershow says: “GBR, wants are not rights. You have no idea what you are talking about. ”

In what universe are gay rights on rights? In the far right wing universe of the Gordon BlowHard Show, and on Fox “News,” and in liar Limbaugh’s sorry excuse for a mind.

Rights are always fought for, and gays rights are not exception. In this case, as Spine Crusher infers, it will be fought again in the courts, not at the polls.

SpineCrusher said:
conservative = looking backwards and wanting nothing to ever change progressive = understading change is constant and that there’s, quite possibly, a better way to do things

Exactly. But it is part of the process for conservatives to oppose change. However, to progress, eventually they must lose out to progressive ideas. That time is soon.

SpineCrusher says: “conservative = looking backwards and wanting nothing to ever change”

This can be broken down into its component parts: reactionaries are looking backward and seeking to get their (Tea Party) candidates into office to take up backward. Conservatives work fervently to protect the status quo and the vested interests.

Progressives also can be broken down, but every progressive has their own idea of how to move forward. This make them more diffuse and it’s harder for them to agree on a way forward.

So, the precedent of a Judge in California overruling the majority voting public, legislature; denying an appeal, and imposing his will on the populace is ok because it isn’t your issue?

Well good, now we have a precedent that Judges are in fact Dictators who can craft, apply, and decide legislation. But because it wasn’t a Beck style issue he doesn’t care… and for the next one, his caring won’t overturn precedent so it won’t matter.

The issue itself is irrelevant (and in fact I don’t care either) but I’ll be damned if I’m going to sit down and accept that one Judge’s opinion is more valid than a majority vote for a State Constitutional Amendment.

Beck’s clearly wrong he because he’s too stuck focusing (or ignoring) the issue. He’s missing the policy and precedent that are being implemented here.

ertdfg said:
So, the precedent of a Judge in California overruling the majority voting public, legislature; denying an appeal, and imposing his will on the populace is ok because it isn’t your issue?

Well good, now we have a precedent that Judges are in fact Dictators who can craft, apply, and decide legislation. But because it wasn’t a Beck style issue he doesn’t care… and for the next one, his caring won’t overturn precedent so it won’t matter.

The issue itself is irrelevant (and in fact I don’t care either) but I’ll be damned if I’m going to sit down and accept that one Judge’s opinion is more valid than a majority vote for a State Constitutional Amendment.

Beck’s clearly wrong he because he’s too stuck focusing (or ignoring) the issue. He’s missing the policy and precedent that are being implemented here.

A majority vote to pass an unconstitutional amendment doesn’t make that amendment suddenly constitutional. It’s the judicial’s job to weigh laws and amendments against the U.S. constitution to make sure they pass muster. In that aspect, I don’t have any problem with this ruling. It was done straightforwardly, which is more than the Iowa judge can say. Now, I haven’t read his brief yet. So I don’t know if I will agree with his logic.

murf said:
Valk , what’s your point ? Can you even imagine if Bush has communist/Marxist / Socialist ties and history ? Wait .. Don’t answer that .. to be honest this thread will probably get between 100-130 comments, the daily repetition is tiresome and boring . Have a great day everyone .

actually, Granpa Prescott was involved in financing the Nazi party

A typical day in the life of glennbeckreview

BECKoned awake by the alarm, a quick BECKfast of BECKon and eggs, maybe a little BECKxercise, hops on his BECKcycle to work at StarBECKS, returns by 5 to watch BECK, dinner consisting of BECK’s beer, and then off to the BECKroom to sleep and dream of BECK. Don’t let the BECKbugs bite.

btw- Thomas Jefferson is the greatest man that God ever stretched a patch of skin over.

Do I have a right to food? What if you give me a right to food what if I want steak and lobster?

Do I have a right to housing? If I have a right to a house, what kind of house? Do I have a right to your house?

A civil union confers the same rights as a marriage. Boo HOO I want it to be called marriage. SORRY.
“WANTS” are NOT rights.

Now any moron should be able to understand the above. My guess is libs don’t WANT to understand.

gordonbloyershow said:
Do I have a right to food? What if you give me a right to food what if I want steak and lobster? Do I have a right to housing? If I have a right to a house, what kind of house? Do I have a right to your house? A civil union confers the same rights as a marriage. Boo HOO I want it to be called marriage. SORRY.“WANTS” are NOT rights. Now any moron should be able to understand the above. My guess is libs don’t WANT to understand.

OK. What do you have a right to? That is the obvious question..

Valk, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That is the “PURSUIT” of happiness, you don’t have a RIGHT to happiness. These rights don’t come from the government. If the government can give you rights they can take them away.

Jefferson also believed that men who engage in sodomy should be castrated.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendVIIIs10.html

gordonbloyershow said:
Valk, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That is the “PURSUIT” of happiness, you don’t have a RIGHT to happiness. These rights don’t come from the government. If the government can give you rights they can take them away.

I’m sorry, I was not aware that the declaration of independence provided us with legal rights. But OK, I’ll play. Does “life” include clean air to breath and clean water to drink? If so, then government regulation is the only way to insure that.

Tony Westover says: “Glenn Beck is not a busybody. He is very principled, which is why he’s so popular.”

Beck is principled? Oh crap; that’s rich! You suffer from selective perception, Tony. You are blissfully ignoring Beck’s many hypocrisies. Beck has NO principles that he’s not willy-nilly willing to take a dump on as soon as he gets a chance. Maybe he’s just burnt out from his years of heavy drinking, snorting coke and smoking pot; I don’t know. One thing is clear to chose who choose to spot it, Beck is a hypocrite.

http://www.examiner.com/progressive-in-syracuse/beck-s-hypocrisies-keep-adding-up

Yes, a hypocrite. Like when he said that anyone disagreeing with Obama is a racist, then turned around and disagreed with Obama on Afghanistan and gay marriage. Oh, wait. That was Olbermann. And we should only point out Beck’s hypocrisy.

“writer,” or parrot is more appropriate: When have I ever defended Olbermann? In fact, my current post is critical of Olbermann’s analysis of a Beck rant. Of course, don’t let ignorance get in your way. You never do.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com

atreyue said:
ertdfg

Yeah, clearly the Constitution of the United States lists the allowable or disallowed marriage rules for individual states. That’s in the Fabricated Article, section made-up-shit, subsection drunken-rambling isn’t it?

So 5 states have constitutionally allowed marriage rules, and 45 are in violation of the constitution according to this ruling. Do you think that’s a likely answer? Or is the answer more likely that this Judge didn’t like how the people voted, so he decided to overrule the election himself; and then deny them the right to appeal (which he’s done).

Hey, this is a great Representative form of government, where one man overrules the voting populace to impose his will on the people. I’m glad we don’t live in something like a dictatorship. Yes it might look the same, but they have worse colors on the maps… if there are other differences, you won’t find them in this ruling.

52% of the US in a recent poll approve Gay Marriage becoming legal… so you could win this fight at the ballot box getting majority support and changing the legislation. But I guess that looks harder than having one judge force this into being while ignoring the election.

Consider me unimpressed with this choice. I’m still thinking the will of the people might be a useful thing to have when trying to gain acceptance for your idea; and forcing your idea on people might not be a popularity-building exercise.

Clearly by previous votes I’m wrong and people love having their votes overturned to force a different ruling on them; it must just be a minority I’m in that doesn’t like being dictated to like this.

ertdfg said:
Yeah, clearly the Constitution of the United States lists the allowable or disallowed marriage rules for individual states. That’s in the Fabricated Article, section made-up-shit, subsection drunken-rambling isn’t it?

So 5 states have constitutionally allowed marriage rules, and 45 are in violation of the constitution according to this ruling. Do you think that’s a likely answer? Or is the answer more likely that this Judge didn’t like how the people voted, so he decided to overrule the election himself; and then deny them the right to appeal (which he’s done).

Hey, this is a great Representative form of government, where one man overrules the voting populace to impose his will on the people. I’m glad we don’t live in something like a dictatorship. Yes it might look the same, but they have worse colors on the maps… if there are other differences, you won’t find them in this ruling.

52% of the US in a recent poll approve Gay Marriage becoming legal… so you could win this fight at the ballot box getting majority support and changing the legislation. But I guess that looks harder than having one judge force this into being while ignoring the election.

Consider me unimpressed with this choice. I’m still thinking the will of the people might be a useful thing to have when trying to gain acceptance for your idea; and forcing your idea on people might not be a popularity-building exercise.

Clearly by previous votes I’m wrong and people love having their votes overturned to force a different ruling on them; it must just be a minority I’m in that doesn’t like being dictated to like this.

Either gay marriage is covered under the 14th Amendment or it’s not. I’m really glad the decision to end slavery and the 3/5ths rule wasn’t put to a vote. Just because a majority people want something to be a certain way doesn’t mean it will be. Like it or not, we live in a democratic republic founded and governed ultimately by the constitution and the principles it espouses. We don’t get to pick and choose when it’s applicable to suit our whims.

SpineCrusher said:
exactly! You don’t “want” gay people to be able to be married, but under the 14th Amemendment they have the “right”. That’s how this case will be decided (thank you crystal ball) and then you can go back into your deep dark crevices of subhumanity and die off slowly.

The 14th Amendment argument, under Due Process and Equal Protection, is an utter failure in this fight. The federal judge in the Prop 8 case, and even the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, has no jurisdiction or authority in this case. That’s because SCOTUS has already ruled on states banning gay marriage in 1972, and their decision is binding on all federal courts. Look up “Baker v Nelson” and educate yourself. States have the authority to ban gay marriage. Interstingly, this was the same “right wing” court that ruled in Roe v Wade…..
Gays have the right to marry, just as heterosexuals do. They can have any church or whatever perform whatever “marriage” ceremony they want. They can claim they are married to each other, call each other husband/wife or whatever. What they do not have the “right” to do is demand benefits from the government (I’ll let you research the SCOTUS ruling about state benefits not being a “right”).

Glenn beck, I love ya man.. but you are wrong about this!! Gay marriage will affect our society for the worst!!