Hawaii’s New Birther Campaign Awakens Ghost Of Orly Taitz On MSNBC

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by Frances Martel | 9:18 pm, December 27th, 2010

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It’s the most wonderful time of the year–a time for sledding, hot cocoa, and very little hot news tidbits. So when Hawaiian governor Neil Abercrombie rekindled the dying embers of the birther fire today, the media leapt up like starved piranhas to nip at the scrap. Would a final investigation bury the birther debate once and for all? Would it discover that the birth certificate that was never actually existed? And, just as importantly, what would Orly Taitz, D.D.S., Esq. have to say?

Tonight’s Countdown, guest hosted by Sam Seder, dedicated a segment to “President Obama’s Muslim roots,” but before that faux-feature, Seder sat down with Slate‘s Dave Weigel for a crash course on birthers and why Gov. Abercrombie’s new war on birtherism would likely do little than rekindle interest in the investigation. “They have not yet to be satisfied by anything,” Weigel told Seder, somewhat deflated. “You’re never going to convince these people that it didn’t happen.”

He noted that it was the initial release of the short-form birth certificate that started “birtherism,” so the uncovering of yet another document would probably not help. What’s more, he added, an official investigation into the matter that proves them wrong is often the precisely wrong way to go to quell conspiracy theories, citing the Warren Commission report’s complete inability to convince JFK conspiracy theorists that the government was uninvolved in that incident.

And as for Taitz’s involvement? She has stated that, should she be allowed to investigate the matter privately, she would stop upon finding satisfactory documents, so the odds of her campaign ending if Abercrombie publicly releases the appropriate documents are slim, assuming her campaign is still ongoing, as she really hasn’t made news since the last time there was no news, sometime in June.

The segment from tonight’s Countdown via MSNBC below:

barack obama, Birthers, Countdown, Dave Weigel, Hawaii, Kenya, msnbc, Neil Abercrombie, Orly Taitz, president, Sam Seder

http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

Proving once again that ONLY Progressives are bringing up this issue, ever.
jjay7381

Tony Westover said:
Proving once again that ONLY Progressives are bringing up this issue, ever.

Come on now. I think everyone knows that’s not true.
Big Eddie

What a juvenile organization MSNBC is .
The_Reasonable_Lib

Tony Westover said:
Proving once again that ONLY Progressives are bringing up this issue, ever.

Ever? You sure about that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0rTwnIRJFA
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Jack Burns

Its all Bushes fault….
Morgan

OK. So Obama has two more years, at least, and we don’t know if we can survive another two years of him. And we got this old Monopoly “Get Out Of Jail Free” card, and we don’t know if it’s any good. Some people say we ought to try to use it. What have we got to loose?

Do we want to go through two more years of Obama to find that out the card WAS Good? And we didn’t use it! What a bummer. Maybe if we rattle his cage a little he might back off on some of this crap he’s pushing. It’s funny with all these Wiki Leaks and stuff why no one has been able to find one of his birth certificates, good or bad.
timzank

Obama and Ambercrombie & all of Barry’s minions are floating this on purpose. It’s a great distraction. If MSNBC (Matthews/Olby/etal) are talking about this they don’t have to address or discuss high unemployment, health care, 2 wars, etc etc etc…It’s election time, that’s why they’re bringing it up.
NeoKong

“They have not yet to be satisfied by anything,” Weigel told Seder, somewhat deflated. “You’re never going to convince these people that it didn’t happen.”

I always get a kick out of how these guys talk like this has been settled again and again with undeniable proof.
The fact is that there isn’t one single person in the whole world who can credibly claim they have seen Barack Obama’s birth certificate.
That is just a fact.
No one has ever seen it and no one can claim they know which hospital he was born at.
Prove me wrong.
Pablo

NeoKong said:
The fact is that there isn’t one single person in the whole world who can credibly claim they have seen Barack Obama’s birth certificate.
That is just a fact.
No one has ever seen it and no one can claim they know which hospital he was born at.
Prove me wrong.

OK.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago….”

So, it’s Birther week at Mediaite. Slow news week, guys?
http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Bailo/1494579053 John Bailo

i have seen barack obamas certificate. he is actually only 28 years old. he dyes his hair with Touch of Gray so that no one knows he doesnt meet the 35 yr minimum
the real john t

Obama’s birth certificate is on the internet Birthers, go look at it.
Just4thefax

the real john t said:
Obama’s birth certificate is on the internet Birthers, go look at it.

Fact: Here is a good site to start any search on the issue!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=244765
TrollJuice

The birther movement should be renamed ‘the low IQ movement’. The fact that President Obama’s mother was an American citizen is proof that he is qualified to be POTUS even if he was born on Mars. It’s also interesting to note that no one questioned John McCains’s citizenship, even though he was born in Panama Canal. But of course McCain is white so they did not care where he was born.
TrollJuice

Just4thefax says:
December 28, 2010 at 6:06 am Just4thefax(Quote)
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the real john t said:
Obama’s birth certificate is on the internet Birthers, go look at it.

Fact: Here is a good site to start any search on the issue!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=244765
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WND…….LOL! What a joke!
lazzzlo

I think everyone is missing the key part of this post. Orly Taitz! She is definitely cut from a different cloth..

Her website is a trip.
Judge Mental

timzank said:
Obama and Ambercrombie & all of Barry’s minions are floating this on purpose. It’s a great distraction. If MSNBC (Matthews/Olby/etal) are talking about this they don’t have to address or discuss high unemployment, health care, 2 wars, etc etc etc…It’s election time, that’s why they’re bringing it up.

Election time? I don’t think that’s it. But I wouldn’t doubt if it were meant as a distraction.
fanofamerica

TrollJuice said:
The birther movement should be renamed ‘the low IQ movement’. The fact that President Obama’s mother was an American citizen is proof that he is qualified to be POTUS even if he was born on Mars. It’s also interesting to note that no one questioned John McCains’s citizenship, even though he was born in Panama Canal. But of course McCain is white so they did not care where he was born.

I think you must be kidding, but I’ll bite. John McCain’s citizenship issue was in the news extensively and the Senate actually took action on it to clarify status. Google it, but here’s one to get you going from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html.

And if Obama was born on Mars (or anywhere outside the U.S.) it appears he actually would not be a natural born citizen. See this: http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html and read “Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock.” Not sure why the stipulations were what they were during the time that includes when Obama was born, but it seems pretty clear if he was born outside the U.S., citizenship would not have been transmitted automatically.
fanofamerica

…because of his mother’s age (18) when he was born and that not meeting the requirement of her residing in the U.S. for ’5 years after the age of 14.’

Not saying he wasn’t born in the U.S. (which would make the State Dept. laws moot.) But it seems it’s wrong to assume he would have automatically been conferred citizenship because his mother was a U.S. citizen no matter where he was born.