Yep.  Saw this interview this morning.  Shocking how totally out of touch he is with most of America.  The more these idiots talk, the more trouble they get into.  Every one of them.  Keep talking! 

What the hell else is he gonna say?

He’s running for the nomination in the party that has exploited underyling racial prejudices and other forms of bigotry to win elections for the past 40+ years.

If he said “Yes, racism exists and it’s still a problem”, there goes most of his support.

Look what happened to Perry for saying the children of illegals shouldn’t be executed on sight.

If he’s so out of touch, then why is his campaign taking off like a rocket?

Race is Sharpton’s , Obama’s, Waters’ , Jackson’s etc.,stock in trade and meal ticket .

Mr. Cain is a man without excuses , and nothing holds him back .

I predict 200+ comments coming up….

Because when your numbers are in the toilet, going up 1 point is rocket-like.

Let’s give this 2 weeks and see where he is, considering he peaked once before when Perry came in.

Ummm…isn’t this funny?  What is even remotely controversial about what he says?

I missed where he said racism didn’t exist or that it isn’t a problem. So many on both sides misrepresenting what is being said. Also he isn’t running for the democrat party, you got that confused too.

Herman is driving the real racists (liberals) absolutely insane.  It’s quite entertaining to watch. 

If he’s such a great candidate why do you guys keep offering Chris Christie a blowjob to get in the race?

What twisted crystal kingdom do you live in?

African Americans with Bachelor degrees are twice as likely to be unemployed as their white counterparts.  But no, racism isn’t holding anybody back in a big way.

Hey now, let’s leave your day job out of this Okay?

““I don’t believe there is racism in this country today that holds anybody back in a big way.”

Except if you want a job.   Or a cab.
_________________________________________________________________________________
By sending out resumes with identical qualifications, half of which had
names commonly associated with African Americans –  “Lakisha” and
“Jamal” — and half of which had names associated with whites –  “Emily”
and “Greg” in response to job interviews in Chicago and Boston, they
discovered a 50% gap in callback rates between white- and black- named
resumes. Whites were invited for one interview for every ten resumes
they sent, while blacks had to send fifteen for a single interview.
_________________________________________________________________________________

Wow!? Propaganda much?!

Ahhhhhh… is he your new flavor of the month?  No more Bachmann?  No more Trump?  No more of any of the other idiots?  It’s whoever is at the top of the polls right?  Hahahaha!  That’s why your party is doomed to fail.  Please get used to the phrase “President Obama” for the next five years.  Your party has nothing to offer.

What planet have you been living on for the last 40 years?! Ur-anus?

.amazing,.

Said the old, white Republican/Teabagger.

‘…I have achieved all of my American Dreams and then
some’ Herman Cain

This is exactly the kind of discussion that needs to
happen, because through his own words and ideals he is patronizing some people
who are at the sharp end of their own and very different experience.

Again, the point is a lot of Americans have a
different life experience to Herman Cain. He has worked hard and has been very
fortunate, but patronizing people whose life has been less so, won’t get him
those so called open Democratic & Independent votes if he does get the
Republican Nomination.

…Go Mr Cain, go hard. I hope he gets that Republican Nomination.

Actually, it’s more like, where are you going to immigrate to when he gets landslided out?!

tweaking the left, doing it right.

Yup, cuz you actually speak for those millions of dems and independents out there, right?! Geeez, dream on.

What is it with these LLLs (looney lefty losers) and their “teabag”
envy? Seriously, I think it is because they actually lack a pair, and,
hence, are envious of their better equipped Countrymen who actually do
have a pair. Now open real wide little ladies . . .

Ohhhh stop!  You’re making me horny!

He is what was once (in more honest times) called a token, hes around so the racism my party used against obama can be cast off and we can say look. we had herman cain as a front runner in our polls! were not racist!. He has a snowballs chance in hell to obtain the Republican nomination. 

I would never vote for this guy or mitt the mormon.

Ha! See what I mean?

Just like rocket ship Perry, but with less money.

Look, your day job and all aside, quoting left wing, racer propaganda will do nothing to improve your lack of credibility, here or anywhere else.

‘Dream on..’

Exactly what might be said to Mr Cain. 

It will be interesting to see how those groups of people react if…if he gets past that Republican Nomination first.

…I hope he does. 

Oh Michelle. You made me LOL! I think it’s cute when you folks do that. When you play the “black is white” game. You Rethugs are racist and homophobic and you hate America (the way it is now with legalized abortion and gay rights and other icky stuff) but you say that the Libs are all of those things, and you say it often. And you have America’s #1 news channel delivering that message 24/7. It’s like pop music. You hear it enough and you begin to buy it.

I don’t know about you, but I’m voting for the black guy.

So Herb Cain thinks racism doesn’t hold anyone back in a “big way”, but seems to have no problem if it were to hold someone back in a small way?? Herb is nuts!!

Herb Cain sat back while people were losing their lives in the South during the Civil Rights era, while having no problem reaping the rewards from other people’s sacrifice!! Herb speaks like a true Republicon!!

hooray, notsofast, stonepark, just4thefax has a new name which he can post with 30 times in each thread  :rolls eyes:

I agree with Herb Cain.

He hit the nail on the n*ggerhead.

For real this time.

*cough* Michael Steele *cough*

spin, spin, spin blah, blah, blah. Doesn’t it ever get old? Hey, I know, you’re trying out for the next press aid position at the WH. Got it. Maybe they will make you their propaganda czar, Herr dawg.

spin, spin, spin blah, blah, blah. Doesn’t it ever get old? Hey, I know,
you’re trying out for the next press aid position at the WH. Got it.
Maybe they will make you their propaganda czar, Herr dawg.

Oh, prefer your political reps of the elitist sort do you? Must love the hell out of Lugosi and her ilk. Geeez . . .

Race bait much?! Loser

Speak for yourself. I like Christie right where he is. Rubio too. And Ryan. And Palin. And Rand Paul. Etc…

That’s nice, bigot.

Chicago and Boston? Why don’t you Democrats clean your shit up, ya frigging racists?

A lot of Americans have made bad decisions.

…Congrtulations!

Herb is wrong.

There is racism that holds Americans back in a big way.

Reverse racism.

Amirite, teabaggers?

Must you always put words into people mouths? I think it’s you that’s nuts. If you’re going to argue with the man, argue with what he said, not what you imagined.

That’s not race baiting! That’s racism, straight up.

You just couldn’t help yourself, could you, BFD?

I’m sure I have no idea what you are referring to, and I don’t really care, but it seems I have struck a nerve.

Tweaking the left, doing it right.

You avoided the question.
If Cain is so great why is your side not happy with the field and begging Christie to enter the race?

Hmmmmmmmmmm?

That’s only if you’re looking for something from the government.

What is it with these LLLs (looney lefty losers) and their “teabag”
envy? Seriously, I think it is because they actually lack a pair, and,
hence, are envious of their better equipped Countrymen who actually do
have a pair. Now open real wide little ladies . . .

I’m not begging him to get in and I don’t know anyone who is. There are some “establishment” types that have been doing so, but they can kiss my ass. I don’t much care.

Has Racism stopped Asians from suceeding?  Answer that one.   Did you know Asian’s get turned down for bank loans at a lower rate than white people do?

It is true.   All of the Racists such as Jesse Jackson and Reverend Wright are Democrats.

this is why the tbags love this guy…he forgives them for their racism

“There are some “establishment” types that have been doing so, but they can kiss my ass. I don’t much care.”

Those “establishment types” are called the Republican party and they are doing it because the know an unelectable joke candidate when they see one.

On the other other hand you teabaggers are a little more dimwitted and you need it proven to you one Michelle Bachmann, Donald Trump and Sarah Palin at a time.
Just be patient, Herbie’s time will come.

There was a time in our recent past when a lot of Americans were not allowed or given the opportunity to make their own freely made ‘decisions.’ 

There’s a period of our history until the sixties when education wasn’t enough. As a group, some had to be prepared to demonstrate and take the huge blows and lose of life against outrageous racial discrimination. Lose of life in order that Herman Cain could then benefit by saying it doesn’t exist.

I hope he does get that Republican Nomination, I really do. 

I might…might then believe the Republican/Tea Party has changed. Although judging from the language and style of many comments written here, that would be a very faint belief.

Sorry, but no one buys that you are a Republican, so you can give up the act. 

Um, I have no problem with minorities and I have the same position on gay marriage as Barry does. 

The first sentence was a question not a factual statement!! He is Nuts though!! O’ Donnell asked him some of those same questions during his interview with Herb and Herb’s responses were lacking… to say the least!!

It’s the same with Republican women who can’t see where they would be without the agitators of years past: once ‘you get a few bucks in your pocket,’ you puff your chest out and claim that you are solely responsible for your success, always failing to recognize the social dimension of human progress.

Individualism is a lie without its concomitant truth that nobody does anything alone.

desperation?

Ride it while you can

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1iyUhk0vwQ

does anybody think the biggest problem in the black community….racism?

It is not the rich man’s fault you have no job.  It is not the rich man’s fault you are poor.  It is YOUR fault.

-Herman Cain

It’s funny to know that the military–also known as the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT–was first in allowing blacks to integrate.

I’m sure it drives you and your cousin santorum insane to see this happening now for homosexuals.

In twenty years there will be a log-cabin republican talking about how there’s no bigotry toward homosexuals…and republicans will jump around and say “see!?”

I know it’s treason to implicate what KIND of work Cain did, but do you think the fattening of America with fast food is a good thing?

A pizza and a burger in every pot?

The biggest problem today is not racism here and now per se, but I think the lingering inequalities from a long history of racism ARE still a problem.

Let’s be honest, many black people are still dealing with poor schools, broken families, in part related to having a justice system that does not treat them the same as whites.  

So the biggest problem is not people forcing them to sit in the back of a bus or to drink from separate fountains….but it’s the legacy of those times that still hurts.

Certain Republicans aren’t urging Christie to run because they like him over Cain … it’s just that Christie has been in the national spotlight for a longer time (Hes one of the best known governors in the USA) and naturally built up a fan base. Cain is relatively new and as time goes on more people will get to know Cain and forget about Christie. 

must be a white mom

Do you REALLY think that Republicans think in terms of race THAT much? You think that the GOP would nominate Cain just because he’s an ‘Uncle Tom’ or ‘Oreo’ as some liberals like to call him…? You think that the GOP is ONLY trying to nominate him because he ‘forgives our racism’?? You think that most GOP voters like other candidates better but are just supporting Cain because he ‘allows us to be racist’? You think that the GOP hates black people SOOOO much that the only thing they want to do is elect one to the highest office in the world? Race card Liberals have no logic …. You’re the only one looking at Cain in terms of race, you’re just too blind to see that. 

Hush.  Go outside and play now, the grown-ups are talking.

His father told him not to protest and fight for civil rights.  He is still in that mode today and he honestly cant see racism.  This is why he is dangerous.  If all black folks felt the way his father did (and him) where would he be today?  He wouldnt even be able to vote.  He is sickening and spits on so many.

First he lied and said he was in high school during the marches in the mid 60′s.  Then he lied and said he had a sick relative and perhaps that was why he didnt march.  You have to realize, his father told him to not rock the boat.  To this day, this is what he does so of course Ruckus doesnt see racism or feels as though racism doesnt hold blacks back.

If the blacks of the 60′s felt this way, this idiot would not even be able to vote, let alone run for office.  He is sickening.  He really is.

The one where you call our FLOTUS Moochelle because you think she is a leech off of real Americans.

We are to close to the changes that happened 50 years ago.  Blacks are the only race to be slaves here and it takes a long, long time for everything to be evened out.  Things are better, but we are to close to the mid 60′s. Some of those folks are still alive and they passed on to their kids their ideologies. 

We are too close, but things are getting better.  My grandchildren will have it better than my daughter who had it better than I did who had it worse than my parents. 

Excellent.

100% on point. 

That’s right.  I almost forgot Cain said Obama wasn’t a real black man.

He obediently went and sat in the back of the bus.

Still trying to label calling out racism as racism huh?

Why are you lying? He said he graduated in 63. He said perhaps he had a sick relative. He was making the point that Larry didn’t know what his circumstances were. You are a typical liberal liar!

No. Teabagee.

He first said he was only in high school during the mid 60′s demonstrations until O’Donnell called him out on it.  Then, and only then, did he concede he was actually in college at the time.

So in other words, all you lib/progs/socialdems, etc, etc, all dislike the guy because he is a free thinking, off the dem plantation conservative blackman. Got it

Herman Cain: ‘I Don’t Believe Racism… Holds Anybody Back In A Big Way Today
I’ll bet that lost most of the Black vote alone.

well, ain’t that what the dems of the day made them do if they didn’t want to end up swinging from a tree? And I get the feeling you miss those days, don’t you?

A Latter Day Raygun as it were.

Ummm, I believe that would have been your pal al the race baiter sharpton

No. He’s clearly a Teapublican. Thanks be to God.

Proof? None?

You said that about the Half-Baked Alaskan. Repeatedly. Frequently. Time and time again. Over and over. You said that about Tubby. How’d those work out for you?

No, I was referring to the Southern Strategy, which has been explicitly acknowledged by past RNC chairs Ken Mehlman and Michael Steele as having been a primary tool in the GOP’s political shed for the past 40+ years.

Mormonia.

Lose of life in order that Herman Cain could then benefit from and subsequently say ‘racial discrimination doesn’t exist.’

You lie. Stop that.

In fairness, Michelle-in-Utah loves and is well beloved by all the members of her son’s “Spanish” soccer team.

He said he graduated in 1963! Damn liars!

You mean like Rick Perry’s was a few weeks ago?  Or Bachmann’s was about a month ago?  BWHAHA!

He was a kid you stupid hateful bitch!

Sanitarium reputedly particpated in sports. I assume he showered in communal facilities. I rather imagine in all the showering he was amongst more than one homosexual. It did not seem to affect him.

A very good point.

30 times and never anything of substance!

I certainly don’t miss anything of the kind.  Don’t try to project the thoughts created in your own mind onto me.  Your feelings belong to you too.  You should start by asking yourself why you would have the thought that you want someone to miss those days? 

If true, and it may well be, considering, I bet it just warms the sorry little cockles of your sorry little heart. Doesn’t matter though, he is still going to be a one termer. It just fact, the numbers and condition of the economy can’t be ignored. No matter how much money he spends, or how biased the media, it just ain’t gonna happen. Accept it, or don’t. And you guys have the nerve to refer to yourselves as the reality based  group?!?!?!?

He’s a white boy with a good tan. He’s never lived the African American experience. He was raised by white people in Indonesia and in Hawaii where he attended elite private schools. His ancestors weren’t slaves, they were slave owners, and maybe some slave dealers.

His favorite claim to the Civil Rights movement is a lie, and a stupid one at that. http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/5/201426/5656

Do you even realize how racist you are? Calling people “tokens”, and saying they have “Stockholm syndrome” for not thinking how you want them to as a race, is vile and disgusting. Maybe you prefer the days where they were forced to stay in line and follow what people like you told them to, but thankfully we have moved past such barbaric times.

Gives me nightmares he did that.

What racism is he calling out? None. He just wanted to work that slur into the conversation.

I thought so.

I didn’t say he didn’t.  What I said was he said he was in high school during the 60′s demonstrations until O”Donnell outed him as actually being in college.  Watch it again if you don’t believe me.

Does he not acknowledge how racist Larry’s interview was that you are parroting? Wow! Though Al denied racism there(even though he’s a paid mouthpeice), so your bigoted gripes appear to apply to him more than Cain.

well, ain’t that what the dems of the day made them do if they didn’t
want to end up swinging from a tree? And I get the feeling you miss
those days, don’t you?

I’m really amazed with the way the Black community seems to overwhelmingly dislike Herman Cain all of a sudden.
If you were to compare Cain to Obama, Cain would be the hero and Obama would be the antihero, Cain would be the role model for children to look up to, and Obama would be the example of the kind of person to be wary of.

What do you teach your children? Keep your nose clean, play by the rules, work real hard, always try to improve yourself, you are known by the company you keep. Well, that’s what Cain did!

Obama on the other hand has always surrounded himself with unsavory, anti-societal characters since his days at Frank Marshall’s house during his youth.He did drugs and maybe he still does…who knows, the media never bothered asking him about his drug use. He never worked really hard at anything and he never lasted more than two years in the same job. He’s gotten ahead by climbing over people and stabbing others in the back (Alice Palmer). He’s a very deceitful, manipulative and dishonest person. 

If I had a kid like Obama, I’d explain to him what he’s doing wrong and explain the ramifications of his bad behavior, and then point to a role model for him to emulate, someone like Herman Cain. 

Quite evidently, Herman Cain had great parents and it’s obvious that Obama’s parents completely failed him, so he had to learn how to be a manipulative person to protect himself and his fragile ego.

Just because Cain is bombastic he’s popular. The guy never thinks before he talks and everything he says is so cocky and in such a loud voice that he should scare the hell out of anyone whose brain has evolved beyond Neanderthal man. Are people still so naive that they equate brashness with the ability to govern?

miss kitty, you make no sense at all. However, that being said and understood, at very least you are here to take the whippin’ for the rest of your fellow travelers.

Seriously though, I suggest you read “The Name of the Rose”  Umberto Eco. Normally, for normal libshits I suggest they read Mamet, or Sowell and sometimes even Hayek, but for you, you need Eco. No thanks necessary.

I’ve been called Moochelle by you libs.  Is that racist also?

Who the hell are you lecturing.. white person? What did you do to help civil rights? God forbid a young black man would want to finish his education. All you freaking white liberals, lecturing Herman Cain about how to be black. It is you that is sickening.

Pretty sure the leader of the GOP, Rush Limbaugh, is the one who uses the term Oreo.

And yes, Americans as a whole do think of Republicans through the lens of race, because simply, the GOP has used race as a wedge issue for decades.  Look at Drudge on any given day, and you’ll see what I am talking about.  Look at the reporting on Fox, and again you’ll see the sort of horrible xenophobia which has come to define the Republican party.  Hell, this weekend the entire Republican field was kissing the ring of bigots, racists and theocrats at the Values Voters Summit.  This is why the GOP is viewed this way, because they want to be.

So even if true, somehow this resonates (is meaningful to you) with you? Is it the place a white guy to chastise a blackman over his history in terms of the civil rights movement? Hell, even other libshits, er, I mean libs on a subsequent show took hi to task about that. Yet you approve. Who is the racer then?

I don’t recall this much straight up racism when Obama was running.  You libs like black people as long as they stay on the Democrat plantation.  If they don’t, you show yourselves for the racists we all knew you were.  Truly shameful. 

Are you black? 

Absolutely right! Herr Leader Obama was snorting cocaine in college. What a fine example he set for black people.

Yeah, crazy ain’t it? But that is precisely the kind of thinking, or non-thinking, that allowed a inexperienced, neophyte community agitator elected POTUS in the first place. This must be rectified!. Can’t wait until 2012!

We know your thoughts.  You express them freely … but try to pretend they’re not yours by attempting to project them.  We see you quite clearly.

Crap schools and broken families aren’t Whitey’s fault. Detroit had one of the highest per student spending rates, blacks in the Mayor’s office, on the City Council, running the school department and running the classrooms and they graduated 25% of their kids from high school. Why is that?

As for families, they have to be families before they can be broken. The illegitimate birth rate is through the roof. Whitey is not making black women get pregnant by men they’re not married to. Guess what fatherless children tend to do? Drop out of school and get involved in drugs and crime.

Crime? Black on Black crime is the highest crime rate there is by far. That’s not Whitey’s doing.

As long as people like you insist that the problems facing the black community exist because Whitey is out to get them, they’re not going to assess and correct the problems in their communities. That is the brainwashing that Cain referred to, and it’s endemic.

You mean as opposed to svelte-like reading of a teleprompter? How is it you guys can’t, or won’t, see an empty suit when it is so obvious?

He never had the black vote anyways.  Remember, we’ve been brainwashed to vote Democratic.

RayGun !!  ToolBooth !!  Half-Baked Alaskan !!  Brisket !!  Cracker !!

See what I mean? You miss those days don’t you?

Ha Ha Ha the Democrat plantation!  You are a hoot and a half, Moochelle.

“I’m really amazed with the way the Black community seems to overwhelmingly dislike Herman Cain all of a sudden.”

Maybe it was because he called them brainwashed.

Do ya think?

You are attacking Herman Cain because he is a black conservative, period. You are hysterical because another black person dare run against Herr Leader Obama. What the hell do you know about ‘riding at the back of the bus’, anyway? 

miss kitty, you make no sense at all.

I’m not surprised that I don’t make sense to you.  Perhaps if you did some inner reflection and took responsibility for your own thoughts you wouldn’t go around having such ugly ones then scramble in attempt to get rid of them with projection.

Blacks are the only race to be slaves here and it takes a long, long time for everything to be evened out.

No, they’re not. http://tinyurl.com/3py9lxs

Also, the first person to own a slave in America was black. Anthony Johnson owned John Casor. Look it up.

Cain is completely incoherent and contradictory. How has he made it this far?

Wow, I missed where Perry talked about executing children of illegals.  Can you link to that? 

If Obama is such a great president, why do you guys keep offering Hillary Clinton a blowjob to get in the race ?

Well…you get the idea.

Dude! Moochelle is the flotus! Keep it straight aight?

As opposed to the suits that are full of bullshit, a la the Republican pigpen, I mean… primary presidential candidates.

Blacks are 1% of the GOP. That small number speaks volumes.

‘You lie. Stop that.’

…Of course I do.

I’m making it all up and the best reply you have is…You lie!

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmjustice4.html

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmjustice5.html

Again, documented suggests something different to a flippant remarks by yourself and Republican Presidential Nominee Herman Cain.

Well, as with most of your comments, that’s a very simplistic, knee jerk thing to believe. But if you notice, the people hating on him aren’t mentioning that at all, they seem to be more upset at his success and are following the lead of Crazy Larry O’Donnell and Candy Crowley, who are attacking Cain by questioning his “Blackness”.

Good god you’re dense.

Not really. Cain hasn’t said ONCE specifically what government programs he would cut.

Star
Parker is the founder and president of CURE, the Coalition
on Urban Renewal & Education, a 501c3 non-profit organization
that provides national dialogue on issues of race and poverty
in the media, inner city neighborhoods, and public policy.
Prior to her involvement in social activism, Star Parker
was a single welfare mother in Los Angeles, California. After
receiving Christ, Star returned to college, received a BS
degree in marketing and launched an urban Christian magazine.

The 1992 Los Angeles riots destroyed her business, yet served
as a springboard for her focus on faith-based and free market
alternatives to empower the lives of the poor. As a social
policy consultant, Star Parker gives regular testimony before
the US Congress, and is a national expert on major television
and radio shows across the country.

Currently, Star is a regular commentator on CNN, MSNBC, and
FOX News. She debated Jesse Jackson on BET; fought for school
choice on Larry King Live; and defended welfare reform on
the Oprah Winfrey Show.

Her autobiography “Pimps,
Whores & Welfare Brats” was released in 1997 by Pocket
Books and her new book, “Uncle
Sam’s Plantation” is released by Thomas Nelson in the
fall of 2003.

They were never slaves of white people. There is a HUGE difference in context there that you’re missing.

On the contrary, it was Herb who was bragging about his “Blackness”.

Rat: you make no sense at all. However, that being said and understood, at
very least you are here to take the whippin’ for the rest of your fellow
travelers.

Seriously though, I suggest you read “The Name of
the Rose”  Umberto Eco. Normally, for normal libshits I suggest they
read Mamet, or Sowell and sometimes even Hayek, but for you, you need
Eco. No thanks necessary.

Herman Cain was the Federal Reserve chairman in Kansas City.

Why does he never talk about this, ya think?

Oh wait, I do remember some racism when Barry was running.

A couple years ago he’d be fetchin us coffee – Bill Clinton

Obama is the first clean, articulate black candidate – Plugs Biden

It’s funny to know that Woodrow Wilson, Democrat progressive hero, segregated the federal workforce and required all applicants to submit a picture with their applications so it would be easier to toss out the black peoples’.

Actually, it’s not funny. It’s revolting.

are you black christine?

So not only are you a racist.. but also an anti-semite. By the way, when Rosa Parks refused to sit at the back of the bus, that was 1955. Mr. Cain was in the 4th grade. During the ‘Freedom rides’ in 1961.. Mr. Cain was 16. Should he have gotten lynched, so he could prove WHAT to you?
You are so pissed off because a black man is running against Herr Leader Obama.

Cain did not say that. You said he did. You lie.

also sense when is calling him out on bs lecturing? 

*since

Now there’s that respect for women from the Emporer that we know so well..

Care to comment on Scott Brown again ??

Perfect.

…That’s going to work. Keep it up!

Well, with some exceptions it’s true ain’t it?

Half-Baked Alaskan !!  Michelle-in-Utah !!  Tubby !!

*drink up*

“I don’t recall this much straight up racism when Obama was running.”

You have a short memory.

We are not questioning Cains citizenship, nor his religion, nor are we are depicting him as a witch docter with a bone through his nose. 

That was you guys, remember?

We question what he says, which is basically laughable. 

Dense gray matter is a very good thing, nice and wrinkly too. As opposed to vapid and smooth, yeah, I’ll take–and have–the former. You libs have the latter. Got it?

Captain Irony !!!  The King Of Sock Puppets Has Spoken !!  Been to OlbermannWatch lately ??

Then how come the ones who come here today directly from Africa succeed and a lot of the ones born here don’t?

I am neither attacking Cain because he is a black conservative nor am I hysterical.  I also don’t hold any allegiance to Obama.  Your partisan view seems to be blinding you.  You didn’t answer my earlier question.  Are you black?

Oh like “corpseman” and “57 states” affecting a stereotypical black slang when convenient, etc, etc. That  is laughable as well, yes?

Actually there is been no move by the left to recruit Hillary.
That has been nothing but a few in the media, the Right, and on FOX (Dick Morris) speculating and trying to stir things up.

Typical lying teabagger.

and the labor Unions made sure black people could not work in their Industries.

I say Cain is wrong on this one. Look at how the Dems hold back the AA community today. 20 or so million slaves that have been indoctrinated to believe that they will be nothing more than murderers, drug users and rapist’s destined to rot in jail or die on a street corner. Dems believe that the lives of blacks hold little to no value. This is because of the subconscious racism the exists in every white dem. Slave owners used blacks as slave labor than tossed them to the side when they where used up. Dems continue that horrible tradition today, but in the form of keeping blacks as uneducated voters rather than slave laborers.

Cain is 100 times for qualified than Barry was.

The Montgomery Bus Boycott started in 1955. Cain was ten years old.

notice how he refers to black folk as ‘they’.. u aint fooling people, Unc

‘…Democrat plantation.’

Keep up that terminology, because that’s going to win the votes over to the right.

…Absolutely!

Did you hear, Moochelle is now getting teleprompter training?  They are afraid she might accidentally tell  you what she really thinks, like when she said when Barry was elected it was the first time she was proud of her country.  Gotta keep her on a short leash. 

Just like Lyndon Johnson planned.

Throughout history we’ve seen symptoms like those displayed by Herman Cain.  Self hating individuals who betrayed their own.  Cain reminds me of the Jewish policeman in the Warsaw ghetto who, in hopes of a reward for himself, helped load the cattlecars.

Maybe he should have told them to quit whining, take off their slippers and march.

Who says he doesn’t? I’ve heard him do it, as well as discussing what’s wrong with the Fed and what he’d do to fix it.

My comment is 100% accurate, which I suspect is why you are so bothered by it. 

I have, and if wise they’d do the same for the “sheriff” joe biteme as well.

Have you ever listened to Barry off-prompter?

‘He’s a white boy with a good tan.’

What would Herman Cain say?

‘…Insensitive!!!’

A Perfect Republican lie.

At this point I don’t think it matters what the Black Walnut says to the African-American community.

He’s all melted.

Yoy mean like the left wing Jews here and in Israel who suicidally bend over and grab the ankles to appease the palis and other extremists?

Just can’t stand it when a man stands up and thinks for himself can you? You should try it, soon. Be a man for once in your miserable life and accept that the time of the plantation is over. We are free!

SSDeez 25 minutes ago
Cain is completely incoherent and contradictory. How has he made it this far?

Talk about “incoherent and contradictory”!

That’s exactly my point. There is deep seeded racism against blacks in America that doesn’t exist in regards to other races.

Source?

‘…100% accurate to whom?’

Its simply racially offensive. 

Although, you enjoy that aspect while at the same time wondering why Republicans struggle with the African American vote! 

You’ll convince Herman call it ‘insensitive!’

So Cain is only good compared to Obama? That’s a pretty low bar.

Ok.

And do YOU really think the GOP will nominate Cain? Ted Nugent stands a better chance than he does.

This from a man who said he would not appoint a Muslim to his cabinet or as a federal judge if he were elected president. 

Wow! Just incredibly stupid! Sorry brutha, but I had to say. Someone has to. Otherwise you will go through life deluded that you actually are making sense.

No, I’m right.  The Dems rely on voters that have bought into the line that they are too lazy and stupid to make it on their own.  They rely on people thinking they need gov’t to take care of them.  They hate that a successful black man is out there telling them otherwise.  There was nothing racist about my statement, you libs just hate the truth. 

No, I’m right.  The Dems rely on voters that have bought into the line that they are too lazy and stupid to make it on their own.  They rely on people thinking they need gov’t to take care of them.  They hate that a successful black man is out there telling them otherwise.  There was nothing racist about my statement, you libs just hate the truth. 

Google

You have a lovely opinion of Black people.

You must make your family very proud.

Wow! Now that is funny!

You probably don’t realize how offensive your statement is.  Yeah, a black man that refuses to tow the liberal line is comparable to a Nazi sympathizer. I pray that you libs keep talking. 

I only use the comparison because liberals are always telling us how brilliant Barry is. 

The people who have been begging him to run were hoping he’d take Romney out.

Truth is offensive to whom the truth is offensive.  I pray that Herman Cain keeps talking.

Why do you care about the black vote and the republican party? If all this is playing so well into dem strategery, you should be content to kick back and watch it play out, but no, you persist in doing this dumb little ” it’s going to backfire folks, it’s going to backfire” as if you’re going to alter events or change people’s minds. I don’t really care but it does make you look foolish. Just sayin’

Your get out clause to call everyone a lib when you make a disgusting racial epithet. 

You make a racist remark and then blame African Americans for being supposedly lazy and incapable of judgement. There are many successful African American that do very well and will not fit your ignorant remarks.It’s your racism and your choice of vile language.

Don’t try to dress it up or pretend otherwise.

Being coherent is important.

Democrats are despondent over Obama.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63466.html

Oh, Uncle Ruckus with more of his garbage. He is just serving as a condom for the GOP’s assault against Black America

That doesn’t explain why Africans come here and do quite well for themselves.

Leftist financier and icon George Soros would have been a better example to your ridiculous assumption.

Quotes, please.

Didn’t know Google was a news agency.

‘Why do you care about the black vote and the republican party?’
That’s funny and ridiculous at the same time. I’m an American. 

Why do the Republicans care about the African American vote since they’re their best to be offensive about earning or gaining it.

..Just saying.

He didn’t say that it doesn’t exist. Stop lying.

Just like Stewart has said, he is following the Republican playbook. Racism, what racism.  

And you resemble a white plantation owner who is ridiculing a black man for not thinking how you want him to.

Um I didn’t call black voters lazy and stupid.  Dems rely on that with all of their voters, not just blacks.

A dems worst nightmare is an informed voter. 

“I pray that you libs keep talking.”

I’m not sure you understand how prayer works.
It’s not like a magic lamp to get what you wish, so people will fail.
You are supposed to pray for wisdom, God’s Will to be done and for your adversaries to get all peace in life that you would wish for yourself and your family.

Christians are such a f*cking joke.
Even fake ones, like yourself.

Why lower the bar for Cain?

Like you??

Which is a completely valid criticism. Unlike all of the racist ilk polluting these message boards.

Yeah I guess you’re right. There are so many African CEOs in America. I forget sometimes.

Right. That’s why nobody talks about him anymore.

Well Barry is the current POTUS so it seems an appropriate analogy. 

…You lied first!

Yawn.  If I wanted a lecture on prayer, I certainly wouldn’t ask the most vile person I’ve ever come in contact with. 

Blacks have higher incarceration rates because they have higher crime rates. Also, the unemployment rate has a great deal to do with low education and skill levels as well as a pervasive culture of indolence and government dependence. That’s not really a judgment. People are hard wired to take the path of least resistance and in the black community there’s less stigma in a man that doesn’t work. It’s true of certain white subcultures as well. But in blacks it’s really pronounced. Of course, you can blame it on the possibility that some employer doesn’t want to hire someone named “Keyshawn Jackson” with a spotty work history and prison record.

Ya see…here’s the thing.
I too am worried about Obama’s re-election.
Let’s be real, the economy sucks and his numbers are way down.
While I still support him, I am a realist.

But that doesn’t explain why a supposedly intelligent man such as yourself would be riding the Flavor Of The Weak behind a candidate who has no organization, no money and no real chance, either in the nomination or general election.
And yet you still make idiot posts like this which will come back to haunt you in the coming months….
“I can’t wait for the Obama/Cain debates.”

Are you just playing devils advocate or are you seriously retarded?

I forgot to add that low-skilled black workers are no match for the mexican illegals who will work for next to nothing at shitty jobs and be thanksful for it–compliments of the Democratic Party and our chamber-of-commerce Republicans.

Pablo you’re right, that Sept 14, article by the Politico is all we need to read to know that Obama is on his way out the door.

Jeez, it was fun while it lasted.

http://tinyurl.com/5wvohoz

Wow…..you are the most earnest person. It’s actually quite impressive.

Do you have any data to support your baseless assertion?

Tell it to Stanley.

Tell it to Stanley.

http://news.google.com/

lol…I’d love to be a fly on the wall and listen to you pray to your God.

It must be quite a laundry list!

Bill, you’re a fucking moron. A deranged moron.

How is the GOP assaulting Black America? Do tell.

They should handout copies Freakonomics with foodstamps. Freakonomics addresses this problem. One issue is that absurdly black names are also class identifiers. Even black people make fun of names like “Lakisha” as being ghetto. Also, when leftist academics claim to “control for” certain other factors, I’m dubious, especially on an issue like this.

You can can the flavor of the week crap, pal.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/herman-cain-i-would-offer-palestinians-nothing-for-peace-they-dont-want-peace/#comment-253865321

Pablo, Google is your friend.

Try “Southern Strategy” and “Ken Mehlman” that should work.

Antonio, if you liked Politico, you’ll love the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/us/politics/11obama.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

“And you resemble a white plantation owner who is ridiculing a black man for not thinking how you want him to.”

Those silly plantation owners ridiculing Blacks for how they think.
And here I thought it was the actual enslavement that was the crime.

Learn something every day.

How many white people actually lost their lives during the Civil Rights ear. I know about Schwerner and Goodman. How many names can you add to that list?

You have a problem with feeding hungry people?

Wow, this is a new one: “absurdly black names.”

So you think its their names holding them back?

Or maybe the idea that the names are associated with ghetto blacks?

Sean, what is so hard to understand about controlling for other factors?  Do you understand what it means or do you not think it is possible?

And how does a leftist academic identify himself in a study?

This is going to be fun.

Pablo, just walk away.

You’ve been thoroughly thrashed and now you’re embarrassing yourself.

If you go back and follow the original comments compared to Mr. Cain’s you will see that you are wrong.

Actually I was trying to refrain from the vitriolic nonsense people like you spout all over the place. The comparison was that he resembles a plantation owner in his attitude towards blacks(since he does), but besides that I was just stating what he was doing. sure you agree with his racism and bigotry.

No, that would be white comedian Paul Shanklin playing Mr. Sharpton in the hugely successful and funny parody song “Barack the Magic Negro.”

Aggregator.

He’s not speaking Ebonics? Is that why you cannot understand him?

Extremely low bar! You said it.

Pablo, how many people does it take to make “one heck of a lot of Democrats?”

Because once I know that number I will know if I should be worried or not.

Are you sayin’ that cousin Pookie put her slippers back on?

Wow, when stupidity abounds you really get in on the ground floor.

Hope you don’t mind if i keep your prediction…

“I can’t wait for the Obama/Cain debates.”

We’ll look back and have a good laugh over it.

“Actually I was trying to refrain from the vitriolic nonsense people like you spout all over the place.”

Yes yes, I realize that.
Comparing posters to plantation owners is very level-headed.  lolol

Because the racism that you are defending is right? I didn’t compare his remarks to beating slaves like he did to mass death and genocide. He and you fit the role that I mentioned very well in your hateful advocacy. Then again you don’t care about nonsense, and racism spewed by people you agree with because you are an irrational partisan fascist, and don’t care about hate as long as it identifies with your ‘side’. Just continue to rally together and defending bigoted hate. It shows where you stand

There is no real reason to reply to me, unless you just want to waste your time.
I realize both sides use race to their advantage and there are really very few actual racists in politics or even on these boards.
As I have repeatedly said, after reading your posts here for over a year, in which you only show up in race threads and rarely any other types, you are the biggest pos actual racist on this board and that is all I will ever have to say to you.

I don’t debate the Klan.

Of course, why wouldn’t blacks vote for Republicans with such shinning examples of Republican leaders such as Ronald “Bring Drugs to Black Communities as Gov.” Reagan, Newt “Obama Food Stamp President” Gingrich, Rush “Barack the Magic Negro, I Hope He Fails” Limbaugh, Glenn “The President is a Racist” Beck, Sean “He Doesn’t Love This Country” Hannity and etc, etc.

So you have a long list of blacks who weren’t against Cain but now are because of his success?

Are you smoking crack?

That means the black community probably hates Oprah because I am sure she is more successful than Cain.

I am sure they hate Will Smith too and President – get that – PRESIDENT Obama I am almost positive he is more successful that Herman Cain.

Pablo, think twice before you hand out your “thumbs up”.

Actual racist alert.

Thanks for the link to the now famous statement
And what does Cain think of the protests on Wall Street?

“First of all, the Wall Street protestors are anti‑capitalism. The
Wall Street protestors represent in my opinion ‑‑ I don’t have factual
information.

Nice
you and your black racist crap

I thought you left

thats because you are a partisan hack
it was MUCH worse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFokenPInk

I hope he fails.

Food Stamp President

Worst President in history.

Welfare Queens.

Union Thugs.

Attacking Michelle Obama and every move she makes.

Attacking the Presidents kids – If you don’t remember it was Glenn Beck and probably some Fox Friends.

Educate yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7butJGdUmK0

wrong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFokenPInk

That’s pretty racist dude.

Yeah…so?

Oh, right..Obama’s a Democrat and thus…what? And…uhm there were Democrats in the KKK back in the day…so Obama’s in the KKK?

You’re smarter than these tired ‘guilt by association’ comments.

I appreciate your longer, more thoughtful comments, Pablo.

Here’s to hoping that we hear more of those.

My Uncle Rufus owned a ’49 Buick!

You like to claim all libs call you insulting crap, and you use the term MOO-CHELLE
You deserve NO respect

or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFokenPInk

Your demented

Because you have to be educated and well off to immigrate in the first place, same for Asian Americans.

Why do republicans resort to Vulgarity?

We’ll look back and have a good laugh over it

I’ll look forward to it.

Hes right on that isn’t he?

Yes, there are many, many immigrants who come to America and become CEO’s. It’s absolutely typical.

Uh, no you don’t. Ever heard of the Boat People? The Mariel Boatlift? Mexicans?

I don’t recall asking you.

Who said anything about Obama? My reply to your comment was on topic and appropriate.

If you go back and follow the original comments compared to Mr. Cain’s you will see that you are wrong.

Quote him. Or shut up. Your call.

Sean is spot on and you know it. I gave it a like, too. Attacking the messenger is an automatic fail, bfd.

That’s what’s called an opinion. That’s why he said it was his opinion. He happens to be correct.

“Smash Patriarchy Smash Capitalism” http://tinyurl.com/63wx2dv

yeah, like libshits don’t do the same.

Aw, look who’s whining.

I see you don’t understand the word assault. BTW, Obama is not Black America. You must be brainwashed.

Beck did not attack the Obama kids. He mocked Obama for his “Daddy, did you plug the hole?” comments. 

White people love Asians. Especially their women.

Yes he is.

Facts are not racist, BFD. They’re just facts. Refusing to face them helps no one…except maybe Obama.

Well I guess it is up to people like you to swoop in and save the ignorant and childlike Blacks from their own free will. Clearly they are not adult enough to handle something such as free will. These childish beings will only be brainwashed and manipulated by the intellectually superior white Democrats. Maybe you can introduce the barbarians to civilization while you’re at it. It’s all in their best interests. Clearly history has shown that barbaric non-white races such as Blacks and Indian’s are incapable of achieving higher thought and must rely on the superior race to enlighten them.

If you can’t tell, my tongue is firmly planted in cheek. I don’t like Herman Cain, but at least I, and most of his detractors, give him enough credit to hold HIM responsible, as an intelligent adult, for the positions he supports, rather than assuming he’s just been brainwashed by Republicans.

Did you notice that you listed three celebrities who are one, all lighter skinned than Cain, and two, people who became famous by ingratiating themselves to Whites?

What a racist, ass comment. What is it about black people that you fear?

Do whatever the f*ck you want.
I’ve been following Seans posts for well over a year, in which he mostly turns up in race threads.
Most of us use race to our advantage on these boards, but there are very few real racists.

Sean is one of them imo.

One might say “it takes one to know one”  loser.

“….in the black community there’s less stigma in a man that doesn’t work.
It’s true of certain white subcultures as well. But in blacks it’s
really pronounced.”

This is a fact? Really? What’s factual in there?

Is racism the sole causal factor impacting the socio-economic divide among races in America?  Of course not.
Does racism play absolutely no role in the difficulties and challenges that ethnic minorities experience in day-to-day life? Nonsense.

Reality, as is usually the case, falls somewhere in between these two extremes.

I wouldn’t know. I haven’t seen the long form birth certificate.

Just a quick reminder to everyone that these civil rights soldiers were actual people, and not abstract ideas nor political points: http://www.splcenter.org/civil-rights-memorial/civil-rights-martyrs

Reality. Aren’t you paying attention?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=fired+for+wearing+dreadlocks&pws=0

And misogyny.

Ha! lame try, but noooooo cigar loser.

I have to say, Michelle-in-Utah, you are inconsistent. You have often called me the vilest person. Which is it? B_F_D or moi?

It’s liberals that decided blacks cannot learn English. Clown.

its the family breakdown in the black community the same as the white community, children without a father( you dont have to live there) is the biggest threat, i am white so what i say is just my opinion, you know who were great black men… the tuskgee airmen, white said they could not do it and they showed they were good but also great

one might also say nana nana boo boo

Oh, brother. You’re a liar. I post in all kinds of thread. And I’m one of those peculiar kinds of klansmen who acknowledges our despicable past treatment of blacks (and who recognizes that it has lingering effects that can’t be ignored), and I also oppose racial discrimination and support the toughest legal penalties against people who do discriminate on the basis of race in private and public accomodations. The klan aint what it used to be. That or perhaps you confuse honesty with hate.

I think people with intense ideological motivations are capable of all kinds of intellectual dishonesty. Left and right.

If you were that fly, I suspect you’d be the only being listening. I imagine as soon as Michelle-in-You says: “Heavenly Father, Michelle-in-Utah here ….,” God tunes our MiU and tunes into Nancy Grace. As you know, God is filled with Grace.

I believe there is no difference, you both such the puss out a dead dog’s ass. nuff said.

I thought that for a moment, too, Jeff, but when I read your post I was sure Spot was off.

The hell you say.

lol…great comeback!

IMO we’re all just a bunch of knucklehead internet race baiters but I don’t truly believe Michelle or Pablo or or even you, just4the fax, are racist.  But you are the master baiter.

He’s not Black because he’s half Black.
Where is BHorizons when you need her?

He’s not Black because he’s half Black.
Where is BHorizons when you need her?

to below: Your not an American! Tool! Everything you say says otherwise!

Is your point white people were discriminated against during the Civil Rights era?? Because I’m talking about African-Americans and their struggle for equal rights in this country!!

What are you talking about??

Shall we have a Mediaite searchoff?
Loser leaves?

Ok, point by point. Half my brain tied behind my back.;)

We want his policies to fail not him.

Food stamps are higher than ever. fact.

Welfare is higher than ever. fact.

Union members are thugs. Not all, but, most. See wisconsin for an example.

Next two aren’t worth my time.

go back to school

Most Americans are not like you, so he in fact is in touch with most Americans. Libs only represent 20% of our nation. So I’m thinking you’re the idiot in this equation!

Do you know which country has the highest number of millionares who are black?    The United States.

Pablo 25 minutes ago in reply to WiddleBabyDanielson
That’s what’s called an opinion.

Yeah, I don’t have factual
information sounds so much better.
Plus dumb teabaggers hear the word fact.

Fail, Mark. You call yourself a lawyer? USN JAG? PFFFFTTTT!

Herman Cain gives the GOP something that they sorely crave….. he gives them the ILLUSION OF INCLUSION. 

You libs are the only ones that are obsessed with race.

Why did bfd suddenly disappear? Rhetorical question.

Lol!! It obvious that you can’t read!! I wasn’t referring to those moments in history!! In fact, once you learn to read and comprehend it… I’ll explain what you missed!! Until then, you have a lot to learn!!

“Blacks have higher incarceration rates because they have higher crime rates”

This may shock some, but to a certain extent, I am going to agree with you there. Now there are certain factors that come into play such as racial profiling, and disproportionate sentencing, but that statement still holds a bit of truth. Now, the question for you is why is that? Are blacks just genetically predisposed to committing more crime? Any intelligent person knows the answer is no. Racism has put a lot of black communities in a desperate situation. Unfortunately, the issue isn’t with a race, but humans in general. In desperate times there will be those who do desperate things. Think back to the old cartoons where two characters get stuck together, starving, in a cabin. Pretty soon they’re looking at each other as food.

Desperate times are the measure of a person. A lot of people would fail that test. A lot of people haven’t had to endure that test to find out. Bristol Palin will not have the same experience, and face the same desperation, as an unwed mother in “the hood” who made the mistake of getting knocked up, before finishing college, by some knuckle head. Through nothing more than her family name, and station in life, she is able to survive, and even profit from, a situation that would be ruinous to her had she simply been born to less successful parents. It’s not like there’s a lack of pregnant teens who could go on speaking tours about the repercussions of teen pregnancy. Certainly there are less fortunate girls who could convey those repercussions much better than someone appearing on Dancing With The Stars. Yet it is Bristol who receives high paying deals to speak about teen pregnancy, and this is because of factors she had no more of a hand in, or control over, than a black teen mother from a low income family.

A lot of people that bring up black crime rates, in relation to whites, don’t like to do so in an honest
manner. They conveniently base their comparison after whites have already benefited from conquest. Go back to a time, before this country was well established, when whites faced desperate times upon arriving here, and look at a lot of the atrocities they committed to become successful. Fortunately, for them, as the conquerors they were free to decide what constituted a criminal act.

I put forward to any well off person, that there is no difference, when it comes to crime, between blacks and anyone living in your community, save for environment. That’s not me excusing, for instance, someone who chooses to sell drugs. That’s me acknowledging that a lot of humans are just selfish at heart, and desperate times will expose it. If you don’t believe me, well… I just hope you’re never in a situation where the decency of everyone in your community really gets put to the test.

Wrong.  He said he was in high school during the freedom rides which occured 1961.  He didn’t graduate until 1963.  

Integration happened in government first–despite racism in BOTH parties.

Privately-owned lunch counters in Alabama required government intervention–via the Commerce Clause. A novel, though effective use of the Constitution to ensure JUSTICE, Pablo. I wonder if you take a different view…

I will happily listen to your list of the US Chamber of Commerce’s accomplishments in this area.

Wrong.  He said he was in high school during the freedom rides, which occurred in 1961.  He didn’t graduate until 1963.

Btw, I don’ tknow what half of those perjoratives are, but it made me laugh.

Keep dreaming, because Obama is a nightmare to most Americans. Plus I hope you’re a paid blogger because nobody can be this stupid. You were scammed by Obama, but are too dumb to know it. By 10 year old is smarter then Obama the TelePrompTer president!

Ok?

What?

I wouldn’t exactly describe Oprah and Will Smith as light skinned, even if they are lighter than Cain. There’s a lot of blacks with little, or no known, white lineage that are lighter than our President. As for ingratiating themselves to whites, I don’t really know what you would want them to do. Are you accusing them of selling out on who they are to appease a white audience? That’s the only way I could see that being a negative. I don’t think any of them have done that.   

Bad stuff in–bad stuff out (type II diabetes and skyrocketing health-care costs).

Maybe it’s like cigs/cancer and AGW for you Pablo: there’s no scientific connection?

There’s one thing more that Pablo hates than being called a racist… minorities!!

Apologizing for criminals is no way go through life.

Chairman Issa: ‘Fast and Furious’ subpoenas issued soon

Michelle, I hope you can now understand how some comparisons are out of line. I don’t like Cain, but it’s wrong to equate him to someone directly assisting in the detention and murder of their people. Unfortunately, I guess it takes someone whose politics you disagree with making such a drastic comparison for you to recognize its offensiveness. The other day you had no problem with coming to the aid of someone I called out for equating the use of the word Teabagger to the use of the “N” word.  

You wear it like a badge, dontcha?

Only to disrespectful racist Teabaggers.

You know how to ramble off authors from 700 years ago and still make no sense

I’m glad I don’t live around these people anymore

Links please

You are either wasting time by replying to my post, with a random comment, or you are following the guidance in your playbook that instructs you to resort to knocking down a straw man argument when faced with a position you can’t refute. Whatever it is, I hope you stop posting under that handle. I have friends in Texas that I don’t want stigmatized by being associated with the idiotic posts of some internet troll.

why is it Republicans resort to vulgarity?

I know
your not calling him Hitler, its just a comparison due to Hitlers know Cocaine use

Huh? What a non-sequitur. Though I get it–it’s a clumsy ad hominem.

good one

got it from you

I misread your post. Though you were talking about white people killed during the civil rights movement, which wasn’t many since we keep hearing about the same two dudes over and over again.

Did you read the Grayson thread?  Last night your side was willing to replace Obama with Grayson, lol  And, there are demos that are wishing and hoping the ‘Bamster would be primaried.  Shouldn’t you be more concerneed with that than what some squishy Repubs are carrying on about?

And I think you are child.

Howard Dean?  Until the eeehaaahhh, too cute for words.

Why are you afraid of black people?

The more I hear from Herman Cain, the better I like him.

How about tag, you can be….it.  You will be called back in when the discussion’s over.

Grasping.  But, what the hey, desperate times, desperate means.

Now that was child like, lacking the innocence.

Grow up Real Nasty Naked Emperor, your schtick is stale.

He doesn’t care, he just wants to puff up his puny little chest and blabber. sigh.

Actually, the more I think about it the more I agree with you.
I just got back from neighbors house, telling them I don’t mind them being Black but please stop being absurdly Black.

They took it rather well.

Bravo!  Great post!

Don’t cha just love it when someone says something racist then tries to disown it by claiming it’s someone else who owns their thoughts?

Forget politics. Do YOU believe that your post makes any sense at all?

When some of us were out there getting spat upon and having water hoses and dogs put on us, this TOM was hiding out, playing it “safe” and saying “yahsu boss”. Now here he comes AFTER he has shamelessly reaped the benefits from the work of Martin Luther King, loosing his life, and this unconscientionable FOOL disregards racism. Well, I guess he can. He never saw any. What a disgrace to the human race.

Yes to all your questions.

Yes to all your questions.

I agree with Cain on his points here, racism is often used as an excuse but more by liberal politicians than blacks themselves.  They want us to believe it’s a much bigger factor in the country today than it really is because their politicians are based on it.  Using the racism card covers up the truth, which is that their failed policies have hurt black people more than anything right now, hence the high unemployment rate among blacks.  The Obama administration and liberal politicians before him have created a generation of people who expect the government to pay for their needs regardless of whether or not they’re looking for a job.  Why look for work or ask your children to when you know the government will keep paying for your stuff?  
However, Cain didn’t mention the biggest reason why there’s a gap between the unemployment numbers for blacks and whites, and that’s the disintegration of the culture.  Black men are locked up at a disproportional rate relative to white men partly because they tend to come from more troubled backgrounds.  It’s directly related to the fact that many more black women are having babies out of wedlock than white women, most of whom grow up without a father because so many black men don’t stick around once they get a woman pregnant.  This creates a vicious cycle because black boys growing up in this environment are at a huge disadvantage.  They are often sent to poor schools, not taught good values, and don’t have the example of a good man in their life to show them how and why to respect and commit to women.   There are still some elements of racism in this country, but in terms of achieving your dreams, this is the best country for that still, for all races.   I think it’s hilarious that liberals always said conservatives are racist so we don’t vote for black people and now that we are they say voting for him is an attempt to cover our racism.  Sorry, you can’t have it both ways, and racists don’t like black people enough to vote for them, think about it.

“In the black community there’s less stigma in a man that doesn’t work.”

“It’s true of certain white subcultures as well. But in blacks it’s really pronounced.”

“Of course, you can blame it on the possibility that some employer doesn’t want to hire someone named “Keyshawn Jackson” with a spotty work history and prison record.”

And you know this guy would deny, up and down, that he has any racist feelings. Herman Cain has absolved him.

I guess he, Cain, and Candy Crowley forgot to mention that African-Americans are executed at higher rates, have higher infant mortality rates, get less and inferior medical care, etc. 

No doubt, none of the dead are being held back by institutional racism either. After all, not having a heart beat isn’t an impediment to success, as long as you have luck pluck and determination. Utter rubbish.

“I think it’s hilarious that liberals always said conservatives are
racist so we don’t vote for black people and now that we are they say
voting for him is an attempt to cover our racism.”

It would have been more convincing if you guys were first instead of coming in sloppy seconds as you attack the original for not being Black enough and call the rest of the community “brainwashed.

I mean really, I don’t know how anyone could f*ck up such a wonderful thing as having a Black candidate for President but you Rightys sure managed to figure it out.

Think about it.

That’s a question you need to answer.  Why are teabaggers so out of touch with reality?  

Look, seriously if you have to say you have black friends or feel compelled to defend that you are not racist than most likely you are racist.  Next time you shake a black persons hand don’t wipe your hand on your pants.  That blackness won’t come off on you and besides its a giant clue that you are a racist.  

Only taking off in your imaginary world, just like his ideas. 

The fact you believe that blacks stay in the horrible conditions of the dem controled inner cities because they choose to do so shows you missed the point entirely. Joining a gang, hoirrible inner city education, drug addiction, rape, violence, that is their free will? Why do you think so little of them? Go into the inner city if you’re not scared and see what political party has ruled for the last 50 years. Has the dems done anything good for the AA community? The answer is no. How can you support a party that has kept the majority of a race down in the dirt for so long and not feel guilty for doing so? 

A sane person would say that being the proud member of a political party ( Democrat) that has kept the majority of a race in America economicaly oppressed for 50 years is demented. But you don’t feel bad about that at all, do you?

By negative opinion is of the horrible things Democrats has done to black people over the last 50 years. If you really cared about the AA community rather than spending most of your time carrying water for a racist political party you would hold the same opinion. But let me guess, despite all the bad things the dem party allowed to happen in the AA community, gangs violence, bad inner city education, high murder and rape rates, you still believe they hold their best interests at heart, right? I don’t know if you know this but being a complete lemming for a party that allowed these horrible things to happen to the majority of a race in America is something most parents would not be proud of. If your mom and dad are proud of you for being a member of this racist party, you might have to face the possibility that your folks may of been very bad parents. Just saying

Aren’t you adorable?

I could just eat you up!

Do you think for one minute that Obama won in 2008 without the vote of millions of those people you call “Righty”?  Even they were hopeful…and should have known better, when the candidate was a Democrat.  Like so many black politicians, he made promises that he knew he could not keep and the poor suckers who believed him are still waiting.  It’s the “Lefties” who make big promises in order to sucker in the gullible.

Herman Cain has got it just right.

The North was always integregated, genius.

I think Cain epitomizes what MLK wanted, somebody to be judged on his character not on the colour of his skin. The fact that he is the darling of the tea parties, has nothing to do with colour, it’s to do with his ideas and outlook on life. He grew up poor with parents who worked and who told him he could be whatever he wanted to be WITH HARD WORK. The same remains true today of each and every one of us. Some take that idea and run with it, others don’t, all races, all backgrounds. MLK was a Republican because he knew the truth about the Democrats … check history, Republicans had black people in their midst and in Congress when the Democrats still wanted them kept as slaves and not even taught to read. When somebody can just wish their skin colour a different colour, or change it, then maybe it might be something to whine about but it is something none of us scan change, we are born who and what we are. However, our options to work and make something of ourselves, or to not do so, are a choice … there are lazy whites, lazy Hispanics, lazy blacks … race has nothing to do with it.
 

LBJ is quoted by Ronald Kessler in his book “Inside the White House” as saying on Air Force One that “I’ll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years.” But it was Malcolm X who really nailed the fact of the matter:

The white liberal differs
from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful
than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative.
Both want power, but the white
liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s
friend and benefactor; and by winning the friendship, allegiance,
and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro
as a pawn or tool in this political “football game” that is constantly
raging between the white liberals and white conservatives.
Politically the American
Negro is nothing but a football and the white liberals control this
mentally dead ball through tricks of tokenism: false promises of integration
and civil rights. In this profitable game of deceiving and exploiting
the political politician of the American Negro, those white liberals
have the willing cooperation of the Negro civil rights leaders. These
“leaders” sell out our people for just a few crumbs of token recognition
and token gains. These “leaders” are satisfied with token victories
and token progress because they themselves are nothing but token leaders.

Yep. Almost as bad as the “if a republican/democrat said [insert horrible thing], the media would be all over them!” argument.

3 of the 4 people named are still alive and the 4th died 19 years ago. You’re not very good at counting, are you?

Cain is absolutely right.  Example…my future son-in-law came from a broken home, whoring mother and vagabond father.  He chose his own role models, played college football, went into law enforcement and is now a US Federal Air Marshal.  Very successful without GovCo (or Democrat) help and has never been discriminated against.  At least not to his face…he stands 6’4″ and weighs 275.  Just one example, but that’s all a real man needs.

Perhaps you can go visit a couple of Liberian sisters I know, Princess and Luckygirl. If you do, tell the former to lose the ridiculously obvious hair extensions. They’re not helping.

He’s had no government help, and he is an Air Marshall? Do you appreciate irony at all?

No, actually. It’s morons, like you.

Bill Cosby would tell you the same things and more. Is he denying his racist feelings?

Fact: What happened to you and the downtown carnival clowns march?

“The fact you believe that blacks stay in the horrible conditions of the dem controled inner cities because they choose to do so shows you missed the point entirely.”

The fact that you would make that statement, compounded by your previous ASSumptions, shows you missed the point entirely. Your statement is a loaded one. It predicates the ills in the black community upon YOUR belief that they originate from the policies of the Democrats. Furthermore, you assume that the people at the center of the situation, blacks, lack the mental capacity to come to an informed decision as to what is in their best interests. It’s a modernized version of the stereotype of blacks as children, in need of the intellectually and culturally superior race to swoop in and save them from their own ignorance.

“Joining a gang, hoirrible inner city education, drug addiction, rape, violence, that is their free will?”

If you’re the person committing those acts, then yes. Blacks were dealt a crappy hand by a system of institutionalized racism, which ultimately led to these ills being more prevalent in their communities. It is the result of oppression, not Democratic policies, that created the breeding ground for these conditions. For those who fall victim to these crimes, no that is not their free will. I’m glad you brought up that point. Those victims have no more control over where, to whom, and under what circumstances they were born than anyone else. If someone is raped or killed as a result of ills bred into a community through years of oppression, I see that person as also being a victim of racism, though in not so obvious a way as if a Klansman had drug them to death behind a vehicle. To me that person has been held back by racism in a big way. Sorry Herman. Now, going back to the first sentence of my paragraph, just because I see that person as being a victim of racism does not mean that I do not hold the perpetrator accountable. Everyone has free will. Getting an admittedly crappy hand does not absolve anyone of their moral obligations.

“Why do you think so little of them? Go into the inner city if you’re not scared and see what political party has ruled for the last 50 years”

Do you know what’s funny about prejudiced people? You can always count on them to
slang about assumptions though ignorant of the facts. They have this compulsive habit of trying to force everything to fit into their view of the world. Illusive_Man is not the only one on this site doing it. There’s been a few posters making such assumptions. Some posters on here choose to broadcast unnecessary information about themselves, where they’ve been, where they live. I choose to do nothing more than make my point. When you do that, you give people like Illusive_Man enough rope to hang themselves, as they start making wild assumptions, thereby proving how prone they are to making ignorant assumptions about people.

“Has the dems done anything good for the AA community? The answer is no. How can you support a party that has kept the majority of a race down in the dirt for so long and not feel guilty for doing so?”

The AA community would disagree, but then to you that doesn’t count because they are brainwashed and not basing their decision off of any intelligent analysis of their own condition. Do you realize how patronizing you sound? Newsflash: The Democrats haven’t exactly earned any gold stars when it comes to combating the damage done by racism to black communities. However, most blacks look at them as a better alternative than the Republicans. As I said before, one party is offering a newspaper in a storm and the other wants to take it away. The Democrats don’t have blacks brainwashed. If they did, there would be a much larger percentage of voter turnout amongst blacks. That’s not a people that are brainwashed. That is a people disgruntled with the political system, and the ones that do go to vote choosing the lesser of two evils.

Dollars to donuts he/she just doesn’t get it.

The road has already been paved for your “future” blah, blah, blah to have an easier time than his predecessors, especially if he chooses the path of highly regulated and watched institutions such as school and government or government and government.

Let’s say he decided to go it on his own and didn’t follow the path of least resistence.

Lets say he was self taugh and wanted to open his own business to earn his money on his own.

Do you think things would be so smooth?

Correction: Race SHOULDN’T have anything to do with it, but it does. Unfortunately, this country decided to do things the easy way by going that route a long time ago, and we are still dealing with the ramifications today.

I’m sure there are elements of Herman Cain, and his achievements, that would make MLK proud. Let’s not forget though, that MLK did join in on those protests, sat in those jail cells, and ultimately paid for progress with his life. I don’t think he would condone someone who benefited from that struggle, that did not choose to participate in that struggle, years later being able to run for the highest office in the land as a result of that struggle, and instead of taking the torch, paying it forward, and continuing to fight that struggle to make even more opportunities for blacks, by counteracting the ramifications of racism, as those that participated in the struggle made opportunities for him, effectively deeming irrelevant the struggle he has benefited from, though never participating in to begin with. 

More racist comments from the left

Discussing the complications brought upon our society by racism, with a lot of the posters here, is like trying to describe a rainbow to someone born blind. It’s annoying, because in the same way you know that the blind person is not in a position to be able to grasp the concept of the rainbow, so too are a lot of these posters demonstrating their ignorance with their outside assumptions and observations. To people that understand, reading some of these posts is like watching an arrogant first year med student trying to tell a seasoned surgeon how to conduct an operation he’s successfully performed many times.

Considering the fact that those with “ethnic” or historically “black” names are empirically less likely to even receive an interview – even with resumes superior to their competitors – Mr. Cain would do well to stop projecting his own good fortune onto everyone else.  Even this white girl knows that racism is alive and well in this country.

Wow.  Racist and historically ignorant.  Bravo.

Neither is denying reality.

What A ridiculous response. No, he’s had no GovCo help. Sure, his paycheck now comes from the government, but he works for it by protecting Americans. That’s not GovCo “help”. That is him helping GovCo if anything.

So, everyone who works for the government, either directly or indirectly, is receiving government “help” ?
You sure have a twisted way of looking at things.

This sort of misguided rhetoric is very dangerous because it vindicates whites who accuse
people of color of playing the “race card.” It perpetuates the myth of
meritocracy and places too much emphasis on hard work
and personal responsibility while ignoring the underlying structures
which sustain racism. And finally, it gives credence to those who claim
that racism is no longer a road block to upward mobility. And who better
to do that than a rags-to-riches black millionaire who blames poor
blacks for their own misfortune?

Exactly. This isn’t a situation of crabs in a barrell trying to pull Cain down. This is more like that episode of The Simpsons when there’s a fire drill at the power plant where Homer works, he is the first one to evacuate, and barricades the exit behind him, preventing anyone else from getting through.

You know, for the record, at least Herm said “IN A BIG WAY”… I mean he is right, its not like you cant get a job, vote, drive a car, buy a house, travel freely (somewhat), get an education, make a living.. if you are a minority.. so HERE HERE TO “IN A BIG WAY”… 

This is the same guy who went to the back of the bus when told to.  I don’t think of a person like that as a “leader”;
“Herman Cain and Clarence Thomas are standing on the shoulders of those who brought civil rights progress with their blood, sweat and tears. They fail to acknowledg­e and accept their debt to those who did not move to the back of the bus, to those who sat in at the lunch counters, to those who boycotted “whites only” businesses­, to those who faced the police dogs and fire hoses, to those who bled on the bridges, to those in died registerin­g voters, to those who braved taunts as they integrated schools…­…Lawrence O’Donnell asked a legitimate questions and Herman Cain gave a lie in answer….”Where were you, Herman?” “I was at the back of the bus, Lawrence.””

While it is true that more black women are having babies out of wedlock – many of those will eventually live in our prisons, but that doesn’t seem to change the minds of the religious right nuts that a woman – evven those black women, should be able to make a decision on their own to get an abortion.  Once the baby is born – begins to need food, shelter and education, where are the religious right nuts that fought so hard to kill the doctors and close the clinics and take the decision from the person most affected by their crazy religion? The answer is clear – they are fighting against anything to help them.

Herman Cain is a token black man unqualified for the job of POTUS just like Clarence Thomas was an unqualified,  token black for SCOTUS. 

I have yet to see any candidate for any political position keep 100% of their promises.  Have you?  name them.

The more I hear from him, the more I think he doesn’t have a clue what the job really entails.

And that of course means that you can’t do it and that it won’t work, because you asked me and someone else answered instead.

I don’t understand why “pro-choice” people only talk about the right of a woman to choose abortion.  If they’re pro-choice why do they never talk about adoption?  Regarding abortion, it’s a very simple question really, does each person believe that the unborn baby is a life beginning at conception or is it just a blob of tissue, and if so when do they believe it becomes a life?  If it is a life, then it is murder plain and simple.  You might recall that it was a democratic president, Bill Clinton, who agreed to pass welfare reform with conservatives in congress.  But now that Obama is president there are more people on food stamps than ever before and less people with jobs, I don’t see how that’s taking care of those moms and babies that need help.  True conservatives support policies that strengthen the family unit because if most of those black fathers stayed to raise their kids, the mom wouldn’t need to depend on the government for help, it’s the parents’ responsibility to take care of the kids, not the governments.  The government should only be there to provide a safety net to those who need it, which it does in the form of various benefits and assistance programs, which conservatives support as well.

I agree with all your points, well said. I made similar points in my post. You do know this means you’re a racist in the eyes of liberals now. Also, Herman Cain is the biggest racist ever for daring to be black and conservative, he’s a total sell out.  

First of all, PRO-CHOICE means a woman is free to CHOOSE whatever she wishes without government interference.  Isn’t that what you teaparty people want – less government?  well, unless it involves a woman’s uterus, I guess. If she chooses to have the baby and adopt it, so be it. Who knows – it might turn out to be the next Steve Jobs. And, as to your remark about food stamps, if you weren’t so shallow, you would understand that having a republican congress from 1995-2007 is what doubled the national debt, exporting all our manufacturing jobs and caused the massive layoffs (750,000 per month) during the Bush administration.  These people are not just “black” people.  They come in all colors, ages and sizes.  And, being a single parent isn’t just for blacks either.
Get off the racist and holier than thou, better than you attitude and keep your nose in your business and allow other women to make their own choices which includes the morning after pill.  As Herman Cain figures it,, even a 12 year old rape victim shouldn’t be able to take a morning after pill and should be forced to give birth to a rapist baby. I wonder how you would feel if that little girl were your daughter.

How much money has he raised for his campaign?  The poll numbers he has been gaining are the same as Perry has been losing which is the evangelical religious right nuts.  But, “Where’s the money”?  Not on Cain. He is just the flavor this month. 

Let’s see – the flavor a few months ago was Palin, then it was Donald Trump, then it was Michelle Bachman, then Perry and now Cain. 
wonder what it will be next month.

He’s never fought for civil rights.  He was one of those who instead of fighting for his right to ride in the front of the bus, dutifully followed directions of the white man and went to the back of the bus.

Not a leader by any means.

He’s never fought for civil rights.  He was one of those who instead of fighting for his right to ride in the front of the bus, dutifully followed directions of the white man and went to the back of the bus.

Not a leader by any means.

Clarence Thomas is a token black put on the US Supreme Court by George HW Bush to replace the good, ethical and intelligent Thurgood Marshall.

If Thomas was half as smart and ethical as Marshall, no one would be calling him a “token”.  If he hears the healthcare bill, he should be impeached although we may have to wait for a new congress to do it.

One must also consider the fact as you have not, that the south use to be completely democrat.  Even Rick Perry use to be a democrat.  Then came the civil rights and President Kennedy & then Johnson supported civil rights making the southern democrats really mad.  They became the Dixiecrats and moved over to the republican party in mass.

So, one might say that in the last 50-60 years the republicans and democrats have simply switched their platforms.

So as long as you see a black man as being less smart in your eyes, its okay to be racist? Got it buddy. Justify it however you like.

 Regarding the national debt, it has increased more during the presidency of Obama than at any other time in history, and his two years he had a Democrat controlled Congress.  We’ve lost manufacturing jobs for a variety of reasons, primarily increased foreign competition, higher corporate taxes than our competitors, making our corporations more likely to take jobs overseas, the weakening of our economy, and the lack of innovation we’ve had due to our poor education system and excess regulations on small businesses. There are more layoffs now than during the Bush administration since unemployment is higher.  However, I was against Bush spending as much as he did as well as Republicans in Congress as much as I’m against Obama and the democrats doing it now times ten. Conservatives want less government, and we also want courts that apply the constitution to each case instead of activist decisions such as Roe V Wade.  Again, it comes down to whether or not you believe that is an unborn baby or a piece of tissue.  Conservatives and any Christian should believe that life begins at conception and therefore abortion is murder.  So in that case, yes, we want the government to protect life, which is one of its roles.  I want women to have freedom to make their own choices, so why don’t we focus on the high rate of unintended and/or out of wedlock pregnancies?  Whatever happened to personal responsibility?  Women need to be more responsible, if they wanna have sex they need to think about the consequences of having a baby, that’s just fair to the baby, just like men need to be more responsible and stop getting women pregnant and then leaving.  I would know, cause my father did that and my mother didn’t think about the consequences either.  The culture of abortion has had a devastating effect on my generation, with many kids living in single parent households or divorced ones.  Not only that, because of all the babies that have and are being aborted, the ratio of young to old people in this country is being skewed so badly and everyone who has researched this knows it.  The baby boomer population is aging and there simply won’t be enough young people to take care of them all, partly because of abortion.  The logical conclusion of being pro-choice is that a woman should be able to choose to do whatever she wants, including choose the sex of her baby.  If you’re pro-choice you have to support that by definition.  China, India, and other countries have the policy of forcing women to make that choice through abortion, and the result has been chaos due to the male to female ratio of children.  This has increased the sex trade for females, increased violence against women from males who are frustrated from lack of women, and left many more males single.  Conservatives want abortion to be illegal because we see what happens when you have Roe V Wade on steroids, and it’s not pretty.  My generation doesn’t know the difference between freedom and license, but the founding fathers did.  License is the ability to do whatever you want, whereas freedom isn’t doing whatever you want, but doing what you ought to do.  If we had the culture we have today back then, this country wouldn’t exist as we know it right now.  

Excellent Point

Actually I  I believe both parties are condescending to
African Americans, but we choose the lesser of two evils. And if you want to talk about parties let’s examine the Republicans
horrible history with African Americans. The Republican Party then (1964 Barry
Goldwater civil rights, 1968 Nixon’s southern strategy) and now (Tea party). Republicans
have ignored and dismissed the interests of black voters for some time now. 

Herman Cain for whatever reasons made a personal choice to
support Republicans; I won’t judge him for that. I also congratulate him for
his achievements however, insulting and demeaning an entire group of people for
their reasons and or choices certainly won’t turn the tide. If the Republican
Party wants the African American vote …. Earn it!! You see contrary to popular
belief we are very capable of thinking beyond the plantation ………… and without
the help of the so called master race.

Herman Cain for whatever reasons made a personal choice to
support Republicans; I won’t judge him for that. I also congratulate him for
his achievements however, insulting and demeaning an entire group of people for
their reasons and or choices certainly won’t turn the tide. If the Republican
Party wants the African American vote …. Earn it!! You see contrary to popular
belief we are very capable of thinking beyond the plantation ………… and without
the help of the so called master race.

Don’t hurt em to bad you know they can’t handle the truth……. Excellent post !!