In light of the clear, concise clarification, Liz, all is forgiven. And, we all look forward to your exposé on how Lara Logan got all tarted up and the poor men on the street were naturally driven to sexually assault her and how they felt used when all was said and done. What a shame you weren’t at your prime in the early 18th century. You would have been useful in the whole sex and slavery “deal”. Well, at least you have FOX “News”.

What scripted crap. Her only counterargument to critics is that Jessica Lynch was treated differently than a male soldier would have been (how do we know?). She then vaguely cites “thousands” of other cases but can’t seem to name one. The rest is a red herring. Who cares if she worked as a journalist in Vietnam? It has nothing to do with the conversation. No one is talking about female journalists. 

The bottom line is that she’s telling women they can’t fight even though women are, in some case, already participating in combat and even though other armies in the world allow women in combat.  

What I remember about Jessica Lynch’s circumstance is it was made for Hollywood and scripted  by the Bush Administration to support their agenda for being in Iraq.  The Bush Administration’s veracity was almost non-existant.  Remember Pat Tillman? But Liz Trotta now uses Jessica Lynch as a prop in her lame ‘clarification.’

I agree with you completely. Who wrote this “clarification”? It sounded as if she were reading it for the first time. Either that, or she was telling us, “Wink, wink. Nod, nod. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?”. What utterly shoddy “journalism”. No place for this, not even on FOX “News”.

It took her a week to ‘clarify’?  That alone indicates the only reason she did was because her bosses forced her to.

Yeah, I got the sense that she told Fox what she wanted to say and they built a phony interview around her statement. It’s pretty clear that it was rehearsed. Nothing sounded natural and she was either reading from a teleprompter or reciting from memory. 

Either way, both the argument and presentation were terrible. 

Trotta is a tool. (and a fool).  By her logic she has no place on television either.  On that she is right, but it has nothing to do with her gender.

I’m sure Fox viewers are satisfied with her “clarification”, but the issue is rape, not female heroism in combat, political correctness “infecting the Pentagon”, or the New York Times’ penchant for sensationalist war stories.  She’s clarified nothing.  She’s simply changed the subject. 

Standard procedure. 

this lady is just crazy. even if she wasnt being mistreated, why would we want to leave her there, or any american.for tht matter?

W and D*ck, Donnie and Condi, a/k/a the War Council, did try to turn both into PR opportunities, and both blew up in their faces. Ms. Lynch seemed to present a two-fold problem for the War Council. She was honest, and she was a bit too shy for the camera.

Tillman’s family presented an even larger problem for the War Council. They were outraged their son and brother was being exploited, and they would have none of it.

Fox apology,”blame the accusers for not understanding “

Yeah, no kidding. I think this ‘clarification’ is much much worse than the original. Basically she’s doubling down and insulting women even more.

I hate myself for pointing this out but god she’s an evil looking old crone. I think later in life your true inner beauty or evil starts to show itself outwardly on your face much more. She just has hate written all over her evil face and I can’t bear to listen to her hateful voice.

But I shouldn’t feel bad for pointing out the obvious; even unattractive women can be pleasant to look at if you see goodness in them. Everything I know about Trotta is that she occasionally pops up and says something so vile it makes headlines, then she isn’t heard from for ages until she finally resurfaces from the rock she lives under and says something else vile. Then; returns to rock for hiatus

Why man should be so dumb and stupid to do dirty job for woman?From Anthony and Cesar with Cleopatra to today…same story.
Man is there to take another life,and woman to give…?What a crap This has nothing to do with man nature.

Did I get the Lynch reference on the part of this FOX toad correct that she believes that the Pentagon upon learning where a male service member was behind enemy lines would NOT RESCUE them????? is she pushing a “do not rescue our military prisoners” policy  Was she advocating a “leave our people behind on the battle field” policy on the part of the military??? and that all stories or instances of heroic actions of and on the part of women are FAKE and/or FALSE???? How stupid is this scaly Toad?

This is further proof that nothing Fox does can be considered legitimate, seriously she just kinda doubled down on her delusional assertions.

Does anybody else believe that combat is the green light for rape as a “testosterone rules” condition? is that/this the new republican position on an “anything goes rules of engagement” policy for the battle field where men get to find any woman and rape her?

Pitch forks and torches time at Fox Studios AGAIN.

Don’t throw rocks if you live in a glass house. If you have never commanded a unit in the military you don’t have any idea how much of a distraction a woman is in a combat unit. I was an Armor Bn Commander in the NYARNG in 1976 when my unit was assigned the first female. Aside from the obvious issue of what the enemy might do to a woman prisoner Ms Trotta hits the nail on the head. Let me give you just a couple of real life examples of the issues commanders must deal with when women are in combat units.  In a field environment I needed to house the female in the back of a deuce and a half (a truck for you non military readers) and place guards around the truck during sleep periods. I needed to expend personnel resources to prepare and maintain separate latrine facilities.  In very hot training conditions where we were allowed to remove blouses I could not exercise this relief for my troops. A well proportioned female in an OD (olive drab) T-shirt would be an absolute no-no. So think again about females and their role in military combat units. They don’t belong there.

I can’t believe she was allowed to read. HAHA.

Your a scum bag who has no valid concept what the modern military is and the conditions under which MEN and WOMEN serve in combat and the REMF environment that we have in any theater of operations TODAY it is almost as if there is no safe area we don’t have to fortify to the point that it can serve as an exposed to full major combat conditions.

Take your 1800s attitude back to the century you feel is best suited for your beliefs.
 Whats next an “if you teach them to read they are gonna want equality” demand as a good reason to stop educating women?
What is your position on male on male rape in the prisons and the lack of prosecution because republicans dont see it as an issue deserving of investigation or attention?

Go AWAY and let the adult women handle this you  Teanderthal conservative misogynist and pal around with seek456 who i am sure agrees with you.

I applaud you for your service to your country but I think you may be off base (no pun intended) here. It is 2012 not 1976. The world has changed.

No need to beat yourself up over this, you are merely expressing out loud what the rest of us already know. Jan Brewer of Arizona is another prime example of this as well.

What a loser.

this isn’t clarification, it’s doubling down

I think when you said 1976 you negated your argument… because it isn’t 1976, that’s the point!

Prior Service myself – I for one Thank you for your service. and  I agree that females do not belong in Combat Units. I absolutely feel that women in the military play a vital role, but as support. People are right when they say that times have changed… and indeed they have. As a female in the military I agree with allot that Ms Trotta said.

PS before everyone decides they want to comment and attack my position let me say this. you will be wasting your time i will not engage in arguing or any of that nonsense  my comment is directed at Mr Wayne.

 Stop the presses, some enlisted guy (Vietnam era) agrees with the sexist stupidity of the Right Wing women-barefoot-pregnant propaganda machine.

95% of soldiers were against integrating the services when it was done.  The military lead the private sector by decades giving people of color a chance to serve.  The world did not come off its axis, and you guys did better than other organizations proving integration was possible, and a good thing.

With gay rights and women, the military is behind the curve of progress.  Thanks for serving, but sorry, your opinion is sexist and dusty. 

People rocked bell bottoms and leisure suits back then too.  Times change.

Liz is right, facts don’t matter to The Left;  Women have NO place in ANY combat unit, they will weaken it and in no way strengthen the unit.  There is NO historical record of women in combat ever making a combat force more effective.  Fighting, killing and conquering are for men;  women can support and provide assistance in noncombat units as needed, provided they do not serve “close quarters’ with any men.  Women on combat and ships and submarines is a total disaster, the Navy hiding the pregnancy rates on ships is proof.  

Or, ask any fiance, girlfriend or wife of a combat soldier for their advice…it ain’t gonna work!

Way to go Liz!

 You mean like this one

http://www.aoltv.com/2011/02/09/bill-maher-elisabeth-hasselbeck-fight/
On ‘Real Time With Bill Maher’ last week, Maher had a line about
swapping attractive blond CBS foreign correspondent Lara Logan, who had
been detained (and released) by Egyptian authorities, for Elisabeth
Hasselbeck. Hasselbeck took great offense to this, using the first segment of ‘The View’ on Monday to attack Maher as a “chauvinistic bigot.”

Maher got his chance to respond to her response on ‘The Last Word With Lawrence O’Donnell’ (weekdays, 8PM ET on MSNBC.)

“It was a joke,” Maher told O’Donnell. “And not even that bad of one.”

“There is a line that can be crossed, where you get into mean, bitter, chauvinistic. I didn’t even approach it,” he continued.

If fact, Maher argued, Hasselbeck should have been flattered by his
joke: “Actually, she should be complimented. Because I was kind of
putting her on par with Lara Logan, who we all think is a very
attractive woman.”

During the first gulf war none of the women POWs told the media they were raped until years later.  They didn’t want the media to sensationalize what occurred.  However the public isn’t told the realities of war and what happens to women if captured by the enemy.

Because Chimpy was desperate for more cannon fodder for the Iraq fiasco, he started welcoming any thug with a heartbeat into the military. Who would have guessed there would be more assaults.

Typical Conservative – “A woman’s place is in the kitchen”

Why do conservative women hate their gender?

Indeed, and when will the Republican War on Women end?

Fox is still pushing the Jessica Lynch lie? That has been proven to be completely made up.

A disproven assertion is almost just as good as a proven one for Fox. From reading comments on Fox News or the Daily Caller or here, it’s clear that some of the GOP base never thinks to fact check anything. Some of the same suckers who get chain e-mails and forward them. 

LOL. HILARIOUS PIECE OF PERFORMANCE ART

WOW. She really didn’t learn from the first time she opened her mouth.

I’m sorry but what all you Pro Liz people are saying is bull. As a female soldiers, there were plenty of times I went outside thew wire and spent nights alone in truck full of guys or twenty-four hours alone in a room full of guys. 90% of my unit was male and as medic, I treated everyone the exact same, If someone got hurt, male or female, we treat, and someone that meant taking their clothes off. Not one time, this one of the guys in my unit ever approach or assault one of the females in our unit. We even used the same bathroom as the male with males in there. Women have been in combat for years. We are just now finally getting recognition for it. I served along side my guys in Iraq and was proud to be outside the wire, just like all of them. Some guys in my unit never even went outside the wire unlike females who had went many times. I serve my country just as every male does, living in tents, getting shot at, and blown, up. I have lifted guys three times my size with all their gear on. I trained and fought for my country just like all the guys, and I and every other female in the military, deserve the same recognition as them. 

Brain dead republicunt

it looked like  she had the questions ahead of the interview. she said she would be using notes. she kept turning pages. at the end of the interview she closed her notes. this should be called a faux news interview.

 Thank you for what you wrote and your service to America.

This ignorant harridan is so far into karmic bankruptcy she’ll never dig herself out.

I don’t get this woman. She spends over five minutes dancing around her rape comments from last week while she rants against “radical feminism’ which is another debate entirely. When she finally gets around to her ridiculous comments she doubles down and tries to equate rape crisis and counseling services offered by the military with some massive government bureaucracy akin to the DMV.  As someone who is actually in the military it frustrates me that people like her claim to speak for us all and know what is in our best interests. I myself have complained when women pull the “girl” card when it’s time to lift something heavy but would never suggest that rape crisis and counseling for sexual assault victims is somehow an undue burden on the force.

Written this morning to Fox News and Liz Trotta.

As a female combat veteran who served four years in the Marine Corps, with one of them being in Fallujah, Iraq in 2004, during the two major combat offensives in Fallujah, I have to say that Liz Trotta’s remarks are not only completely ignorant, but that her display of open and deliberate falsification of all the information she portrays smears all news agencies everywhere. Frankly, she should, and hopefully will, lose her job. Lets break down Ms. Trotta’s arguments point by point and I’ll display, from my own extensive experience not only with the military as a female, but with combat as a female, why Ms. Trotta’s arguments are based on fairytales and her own misguided, made up information.For starters, Ms. Trotta claims that having women in combat is “too tempting”, apparently, for the men in combat and that they are “being raped too much” because of their presence in theater; the only way to solve this is to, apparently, remove women from combat theater.  Let me clue you in, Ms. Trotta.  I had more female friends who were sexually assaulted back in garrison than in combat. Meaning they were attacked by men they worked with here on our own soil, in home camps like Pendleton and Lejeune.    They were wearing full uniform when the attacks happened, meaning that their bodies were ambiguously covered from head to toe with gear and clothing, things that are not meant to display the female form in it’s most flattering visage.  These men were not under combat stress; these men did, however, have histories of problems with the military, histories of poor behavior and performance.  They were piss poor Marines who, by rights, shouldn’t have even been in the Corps, and many of them were on their way out, either dishonorably or otherwise.  The women they attacked were excellent shooters, runners, fighters; they were intelligent, and many of them were working on their college education. They’d take a bullet for anyone, any time of the day, and many of them had been deployed with me and had had an opportunity to prove it. The number of women that I knew, personally, that were raped while in Fallujah: zero. So for one, women in combat, from my experience, are not getting raped any more or any less than women in garrison. The problem is not women in combat, Ms. Trotta. The problem is having men in the military who are of such low caliber that they’ll rape someone they work with.  Another small clue for you that’s an actual real fact, and not something made up in your head; men get raped in the military, too.  Are they “tempting” their fellow soldiers with their presence? Should we just remove all men and women from combat so that we’re not running around like animals raping each other and let armed weevils fight our battles for us?Another point that Ms Trotta makes is the amount of money that the military spends on sexual assault prevention and post-assault counseling; again, her “fix” to this supposed “problem” is that we simply remove women from combat and there’ll be no more raping. I’ll point Ms. Trotta to my first argument, that in my experience almost none of the rapes I knew about while I was active duty happened while deployed.  Almost all of them happened back home.  Another thing I’d like to point out to Ms. Trotta, is that I was a Sergeant by the end of my four year term, and a Supply Admin Marine in charge of the Fiscal section of the office. Which meant that I managed our unit’s fiscal budget, and that all outsourced spending came through me.  If I didn’t approve it or personally purchase it then our unit didn’t get it.  So I had a first hand view of where our combat budget was actually going.  Do you know how many officers in my unit had flat screen TV’s in their quarters while deployed? All of them.  Do you know how many senior NCO’s had TV’s? All of them.  Do you know how many expensive slings, straps, thigh holsters, polarized sunglasses, leather gloves, DVD sets, that I was ordered to buy for our unit?  More than we needed.  Some could argue we didn’t really need any of it. It was a massive show of waste, where our “unlimited” combat budget ended up being used to buy all manner of ridiculous things.    Some would even say that had we not wasted so much of our funding on stupid toys that made absolutely no difference in either morale or the war effort, we might actually have a few million dollars extra lying around waiting to be used for something productive.   Also, sexual prevention counselors are usually Marines that have a regular day job, and  they double as a SAC whenever there’s need for it. They don’t get paid extra for this duty, nor do they pull overtime when they have to counsel an assault victim (really focus on that word, “victim”, throughout this letter, since you seem to lack a concept of it.)  Since barely a margin of any units budget is used on sexual prevention or assault counseling due to this “double dipping” method, I doubt that cutting those programs and relieving women of their combat duties would even make a dent on any units budget.   If your concern is money, then cutting the flat screen TV’s may help.  Or maybe cutting rapists from the units payroll.  My final point, Ms. Trotta, is that you are not a combat veteran. You have not experienced military training, a military subculture, or military combat as a woman or otherwise.  To say that the media blows up “false stories of heroism” about women while we’re really all sitting around in our rollers drinking tea on military bases while the big strong men go out and fight for us is the most gross statement of prejudice, bias, bigotry and hate that I’ve ever heard a female journalist, or anyone, utter, and I’ve worked for some pretty prejudiced men.    Let me tell you why this statement is so completely offensive, and seen as a personal attack by you on so many uniformed women. I told you before, that I was a Sergeant after 3 years in the Marine Corps.  This is considered a pretty big achievement by many, as most Marines don’t reach E-5 until their second enlistment.  I was meritoriously promoted to Lance Corporal in my first three months in the Corps.  I was an Honor Graduate in basic training. I was also the Honor Graduate in combat training, and the only female Honor Graduate in our training cycle.  I had a first class Physical Fitness Test, meaning that I could run relatively fast and had strong upper body and core strength.   I was an Expert Rifleman on the range.  I could make a head shot at 500 yards, and could handle both the 9mm pistol and the Combat shotgun, as well as the MP5 submachine gun.    I went to night school my entire last year in the Corps and eventually went on to get my BFA.  I was intelligent, I could lead men and women, I inspired respect and loyalty in those that worked with me, which was displayed multiple times while in combat and out.  Men who had been in the service for 20 years respected me, and I was not only many years their junior both in age and experience, but also a woman.  I was an excellent Marine, and an excellent warrior.   I earned every right to be on the front line, when I wished to be there, and to fight for my country and display my innate heroism and sense of duty and honor.   And so did every woman out there, from the seasoned Gunnery Sergeants to the first year PFC’s.  We were hungry to prove ourselves.  And why is that wrong? So were the men, yet we never question a man’s desire for glory or honor.  And that’s what this comes down to.  You’re essentially saying that qualified (sometimes overqualified) soldiers and Marines should not be allowed to do what they’ve been trained to do, and do what they’re good at, for the good of our country, because of whats between their legs.  Maybe having a basic understanding of why rape happens will help you here, Ms. Trotta.  Because, like I said before, men get raped too, by other men.  It’s not about sex, as in the military, heterosexual men have been known to rape other heterosexual men.   It’s about power.   It’s about people in our military having psychological dispositions to violence, a lack of respect for others, and a need for absolute control.   THESE are the people we should be ejecting from the front lines.  Not heroic, qualified, intelligent female soldiers. Because we’ve saved your ass countless times, Ms. Trotta, whether you know it or not.  And if you remove all these honorable, deadly female soldiers from the front lines, then the next time you go out there to cover your latest misinformed story on combat, there may not be anyone there to protect you from the minor percent of violent rapists that the military insists on keeping deployed in combat theaters.   Rape is a crime; it is not the victims fault in any way shape or form, yet somehow the victims still keep getting the blame for what’s been done to them.   The female Marines I worked with were in uniform every day, doing their jobs diligently and with the passion and dedication that is inspired in all Americans when faced with the challenge of upholding their country’s honor.   They were not dressed like sluts. They were not asking for it.  They weren’t even paying attention to the men half the time.    Do you know how I know this? Because I was there, Ms. Trotta, while you sat back here slandering my name and the name of all women veterans.   Perhaps if men are the problem then they’re the ones we need to remove from combat; if they are unable to manage combat stress well enough to keep from completely abandoning every moral sanction they’ve ever honored or held dear, which seems to be what you’re suggesting, then they’re obviously too weak to handle the strain of violence and should be removed, while the women, who were strong and resilient and determined to complete the mission at any cost, would probably not even miss them one bit.  Ms. Trotta, I will be petitioning for your immediate dismissal from Fox News, and I will be sending this letter out to expose you as the slandering liar that you are.   You do not deserve to speak for any of us veterans, let alone the women.  Sgt Katie Irvin, USMC

I guess I better get the dictionary and look up “clarify”, because that for damn sure isn’t what I thought it was!!!!!

all these male military whatevers praising Trott’s position make me wonder how many of them have commited rape. Do you really lack the self control? is that why women dont ‘belong’?

grow a pair and do your job.

this spineless clap trap , should have just kept her mouth shut! What a loser! Seems like she is in need of a big Dickinson across the face. 

She’s over 70 years old, she comes from the Friess Birth Control Method generation who thinks that women are asking for it whenever they mix with men.

Maybe Fox should get a panel together of American and Israeli women who have served in combat, and let them interview her.  Now that would be epic “TV worth watching!”

Yes it does, but not all men.

Rape occurs wherever there are rapists.

This post is exactly right.

Sex hasn’t.

As an ex-female military veteran, I totally agree.

But not when it comes to sex……

Put all the Hawks on the front line.

 Thank you Sgt.Katie Irvin for your service and what you have written.

Liz is absolutely right.  I’m a feminist and I absolutely agree with Liz.  Gals, we have our place and it is not subordinate to men.  We can’t do everything men can do and we shouldn’t have to.  We each have our strengths and weaknesses.  We complement each other not outdo each other.  It seems to me, what has changed since 1976, is men are becoming more dependent on women.  I think it is our fault moms.  We coddle our sons too much.  Let men be men. 

 Ms. Trotta doesn’t know how to shut up. As we know: “Empty barrels make more sound.”

There will always be women like you, but most of us can’t lift  our ten year olds much less a man.  I served proudly in the Air Force on the flightline not on the frontline.  I consider my service as valuable as yours.  Every woman needs to consider whether her M.O. is a help or a hindrance to the main fighting force and choose accordingly.  Nurses have always been on the front lines and always be.  However, I don’t believe every woman should be given a gun and sent to the front.  We can’t all do that nor should we.  We’re the backup.  Nothing wrong with that.  We also don’t don’t need to be barefoot and pregnant all the time but hey, where are the future soldiers to come from ?  Those women are doing their part too.

The Girl Card is a reality card.  Ask me, I know.  My spine was injured not on he frontline but in the grocery line.  I carried too many grocery bags at the same time.  I was almost paralyzed for life.  Thanks to a talented Surgeon, I am still here to day but walking with the aid of a Walker.

Liz didn’t need to clarify remarks that even a monkey could understand. But of course, remarks have to be simplified to meet the low Liberal standards of comprehension. Good to know you now fully understand her remarks now.

On behalf of my niece, Tech Sgt Marissa Malmin, who is serving in the Air Force at Camp Bastion in southern Afghanistan, I thank you for setting the record straight.  I doubt anyone could have put Miss Trotta in her place any better than you just did.

thank you for your service and the I have no problem with women in the service and that includes the combatant roles now open to women.

Oink, oink.

The Progressive (Liberal-Socialist) – Democratic Party has always held the military in contempt. Now they are trying – very successfully – to make it a bastion of political correctness rather than a war-fighting organization. War is not politically correct. It is about killing people and doing other uncivilized things. The US military with its very high rear echelon “tail’ compared to front line fighting “teeth” has more than enough REMF positions for females to fill without inflicting all of the negative issues Trotta correctly points out on front-line fighting units. The most closely guarded secret in today’s military is the number of pregnancies among female service members and its impact on military readiness and deployability

Or it took a week of people telling her she was the back end of a donkey to realize she should “clarify” what she said or meant. So now that she’s doubled down it’ll take another week to “clarify” her clarification. Lol! 

Rational social expectation has.

 Lest we forget, Ms. Trotta is the same hateful person who once joked about an Obama assassination.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/fox-pundit-wishes-for-oba_b_103500.html

Including qualified women who choose to be there and ChickenHawk politicans that would commit Armed Forces where they don’t need to be!

Absolutely no one is saying an unqualified woman should be in combat. Just as no one would send an unqualified man to that environment. People like Trottra are saying again you don’t have a right to choose regardless of your qualification. That is the issue. Old schoolers will cling to the that idea no matter how times will change things.

Sorry for you misfortune but should that remove the opportunity for others that do not have you issues?

Maher made the joke before he heard that she was sexually assaulted.

Nice try.

Thanks Sarg for your service and your awesome take down!

Of course not. Those who are capable should have that choice. My point was most women do not have the strength and capabilities men do. We are built differently for a reason. We should acknowledge those differences and act accordingly. There seems to be some sort of mindset that women must compete with men. I don’t agree. Why can’t we just be what God made us to be.

You and I are basically in agreement. Even in the old testament, God did not send men into battle unless they wanted to go. Most women don’t qualify. For those that do, they should have a choice and be tested for those qualifications. Liz is not giving women a choice and the Government is not giving women a choice.

I’m not quite sure what you mean by rational social expectation, but I do know that in the last 80 years, sex has become sexual mayhem. Things that would never have been spoken of in front of a child have become things people do to a child. Each generation has become more despoiled than the last. That is not a good thing. To me, it is irrational to think that men and women have the same strengths and abilities, sexual and otherwise.

If anyone truly believes that women do as well as men in a dangerous situation, you’re delusional. It’s been my personal experience in Law Enforcement that women hold back and let the men take over when the situation becomes really dangerous. All the women did was get in the way, and force you to watch out for them too. This political correctness and social experimentation doesn’t belong in the Military. Any hands-on situation requires men with aggression and strength. That’s what combat is all about. Women may want to be like the men, collect the same pay, but in the end, they don’t belong where physical strength is required to control a situation.

This entire situation shows what’s so wrong with this country.  Trotta shed light on a very important topic, and all people can do is name call and turn it into a SNL skit!

Seriously, is this how a democracy works?  No wonder it has no future.  We worship superficial things such a beauty and ignore those who don’t please our eye.  We then shout down those we don’t agree with, and wonder why there’s gridlock in a free country. 

I will say that her original comments should have been as tightly crafted as her follow-up, but her thesis is never the less important, regardless of whether you agree or not.  We need opinions other than the PC one.

I am not a fan of Fox, and their distorted views, but when an expert on military service makes a thoughtful commentary about war (an evil institution, but one that exists), why turn it into something its not?

I had never heard of Liz Trotta, but now I wish there were more journalists like her out there.

There may have been a time when abusing a women was or could be covered up. By rational social expectaition I utimately mean that there is far more accountability and expectation not to commit such abuse. Women have come a long way gaining the right to vote and not being treated as a lesser but as an equal. I will support to my dying breathe any man or woman as equals their right to make his/her choice to run their lives as they see fit. Certainly not as someone else or gov’t would desire for them. I think its called freedom! If you commit abuse you will answer for it. Given the potential threat percieved of abuse does not mean that abuse will inherently occur. During my time of service the men I served with did not desire to rape anyone. The women I served with were all able and willing to do their fair share of any task at hand and would find them in many cases more capable than the men in our unit. I find it irrational to make a blanket statement comparing strength, abilities, or sexuality of men vs women saying one is lesser than the other. There are grown men that would never be able to compete with the capabilities of a grown women. Competition is not the point qualification is. Yes women do have biological differences but nothing that is or should be considered an inpediment.

What a surprise, no one has “liked” this comment. 

Policemen aren’t soldiers, aren’t held to the same standards, and don’t experience the same things. You’re not in the military, so you shouldn’t feel entitled to comment on how women in the military behave.  I knew women who could probably split you over backwards over their knee and wouldn’t think twice about doing it for an off comment. (Myself included) Women also have more to prove in violent situations, and thus tend to act more ruthlessly than men in order to “earn their place.” This is how it works in the military.  Perhaps not in the Police Force, as they’re held to more lax standards.  As policemen in my home town accidentally shoot innocent civillians (including the backs of pregnant women trying to escape chaotic situations they’re not involved in) , run over people in the dark, and let convicts escape the maximum security facility they’re meant to be kept in because they want to take them out to the State Fair, I’m not really impressed.  

For your information, I spent 5 years in the military before it became Political Correct to do social experimentation. .

 Well said Sgt Irvin. There is no need for me to add a single word.  You have said it best! I served in Baghdad in 2003 as an Engineering Officer. I am an African American female Officer.  Like you I had the command and respect of those I served.  I worked side by side with Officers and Enlisted.  We respected each other and protected each other.
You are so correct, the military should get rid of that small percent of dare I say people who commit that vial act of rape.
Ms. Trotta has no idea of the training and commitment we go through to protect her sorry *ss.
We serve with honor.  We serve with courage.  We serve with the same dedication as every other service member, male or female.  We cannot nor will not be stopped by the ignorant rants of Ms. Trotta and those who support her views.
Women have served in combat since the beginning of time.  We will serve till the end of days.
Thank you for your service and all who serve honorably.  Major Gwendolyn Sheppard, USAFR, Retired

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