I’m not sure why Obama decided to comment on this but he should have kept his mouth shut.This is a story and subject matter that brings out strong passions in people.No one knows what Vick really thinks or feels except Vick.Yes he served his time but did he change?We don’t know.Does he deserve praise?It’s unclear and can’t be truely determined.Did he deserve praise over others?I would think there are other people out there who commited worse crimes and have changed their lives for the better.

Harming animals is a red flag for a number of personality issues.Just because Vick went to prison doesn’t mean he really changed.

Come on, even you libs have to question Obama’s judgement regarding who he chooses to praise and condemn. He condemns the MA police, but praises the return of VIck. He condemns the killing of Muslims (which he should), but is silent on the slaughter of Christians in the middle east. He praises Reverend Wright, but condemns those American’s who happen to disagree with his policies. He just has strange priorities.

yep

ok my quote didn’t work.

Mike Vick is an incredible athlete. I love him for fantasy football. He may actually help 1 of my teams win.

Why the Prez thinks he is ok to own a dog is secondary to me.

however, I don’t think mr vick should own any dogs quite yet.

On Chris Matthews, Harball, Clarence Page said Obama was much too busy to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. Matthews called out for Obama to release it and even showed a copy of a lomg form birth certificate issued 1 day before Obama was born.

It’s strange that Obama has time to comment about Vick, play golf and basketball, but doesn’t have time to release the bc. It’s also very strange that all of his records, including college/university, are sealed and hidden.

Obama’s first Political Prisoner, Lt. Col. Lakin, a flight-surgeon, is serving time in prison for refusing to deploy until Obama proved his eligibility. McCain revealed his bc and Congress declared him eligible. It’s strange that they did not declare Obama eligible.

But he apparently can and if so, that is his right.

This is a perfect example of how America has changed from its foundation as a country where second chances are the norm to a country of bigots who will use anything to set them selves on a higher shelf.

What Vick has done is very, very noteworthy. The very same people who have been denigrating Vick are also the praising people who looked for and found the flimsiest of reasons to invading not one, but two countries for no other reason than simple greed.

Vick killed dogs and as much as everyone wants to say life is so precious, the people believe in the death penalty, abortion, war and a number of other ventures where killing is part and partial to accomplishing a goal.

Vick was found guilty of his crime, served the time required and has NOT indulged in those activities. In fact, he has gone out of his way to let other people KNOW that he understands that what he did was wrong and should not be done by anyone. In addition, he has refrained from being active in the lifestyle where that behavior is accepted. In addition of that, he has going about showing that he has what it takes to overcome the stigma of being a looser.

Those who persist in denigrating Vick have the need to elevate themselves to a level about the low level that currently live at. Unfortunately, they demonstrate that they are no more above bigots than they were before Vick’s escapades became public.

Everyone makes BIG mistakes in their lives. Very few appreciate being kept on the hook. They want and need that ‘second chance.’ They just don’t others to have it.

I need Mr. Vick tonight in my fantasy football league.

I wouldn’t trust my Airedales with him.

lazzzlo said:
ok my quote didn’t work.

Mike Vick is an incredible athlete. I love him for fantasy football. He may actually help 1 of my teams win.

Why the Prez thinks he is ok to own a dog is secondary to me.

however, I don’t think mr vick should own any dogs quite yet.

ever think that the Prez has Vick on HIS fantasy team?

I cringe when I remember what Vick did.. but if he’s honestly learned his lesson, then I have no problem giving the guy a second chance.

I also wonder if this is some sort of subliminal Obama marketing to give Obama a second chance. I mean, if you’re giving the dog-murderer another chance, maybe you’ll give the job-muderer one.

I don’t think he’s a job-murderer.. but I go where the jokes tell me. >:D

I don’t think you can walk back from a crime like that.

Barryal,
This isn’t really about Vick. I agree that he deserves a second chance, and hope he is sincere in his remorse. This story is about the things Obama chooses to comment on. He’s silent on the wisdom of the Ground Zero mosque, but feels compelled to praise Vick. It’s Obama’s priorites that are the story, not Vick.

bigbrainbrad said:
ever think that the Prez has Vick on HIS fantasy team?

lol

Yep! Barry just loves domestic terrorists and animal murderers.

Good for Megyn!

Not a coincidence that the two biggest supporters of Michael Vick’s “second chance” are black.

“Pauley however bemoaned the fact that ‘sports stars and celebrities can get away with anything and they’re always going to be glorified no matter what type of human beings they are.’ ”

Unfortunately, Pauley is correct, celebrities always seem to get excuses for any crime they commit, no matter what it is, whereas, an average citizen would be held to different standards. They always get off by becoming so-called “spokesmen” against their crimes.

Even according to White, Vick is only being a “spokesman” in an attempt to save his career and rebuild his reputation.

@Seeing 2012 From My Window, “He just has strange priorities.”

Obama’s priorities are chosen by color.

Let’s not forget that Vick didn’t choose to stop torturing these animals on his own, he got caught.

Read about Vick’s “victims” here at BFAS: http://www.bestfriends.org/vickdogs/

I cringe when I remember what Vick did.. but if he’s honestly learned his lesson, then I have no problem giving the guy a second chance.

I hope so

barryal said:
What Vick has done is very, very noteworthy

You are a pathetic apologist.

I’ll tell you what’s a crime…not eating dogs. Dogs are delicious! Just ask the Koreans.

dhg said:
I’m not sure why Obama decided to comment on this but he should have kept his mouth shut.This is a story and subject matter that brings out strong passions in people.No one knows what Vick really thinks or feels except Vick.Yes he served his time but did he change?We don’t know.Does he deserve praise?It’s unclear and can’t be truely determined.Did he deserve praise over others?I would think there are other people out there who commited worse crimes and have changed their lives for the better. Harming animals is a red flag for a number of personality issues.Just because Vick went to prison doesn’t mean he really changed.

I have to agree with you but, only to a point. I think what Vick did is terrible in every snese of the word. But, he did his time so we have to assume he has changed until he reoffends (my money is that he won’t).

I worked with a guy not long ago who did some time in jail for a felony and really has turned his life around since then. He is gong to nursing school and trying to get the offense expunged from his record but is having a very hard time and, the offense might stick forever.

Granted, some people are hopeless and can never change their criminal behavior no matter what society does. This does not mean however, that Vick desrves a life sentence for what he has done. Whether or not he is a role model is up for debate but he does deserve a second chance because that is how our system was designed.

I do find it odd that obama would chose to comment on this when he should have just kept his mouth shut. I think Vick deserves a second chance but, I am not the president and everything I say is not analyzed by everyone and their brother. Obama needs to learn when to keep his mouth shut but I doubt that is possible, as he puts his foot in there every chance he gets.

Also, stating that the Eagles made a wise chioice hiring Vick is not a very nobel thing to do now that he has proven himself. Obama should have said something when they first hired him if he wanted to be bold. This was not only stupid of him, it was safe, predictable, and typical Obama.

http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/

Mick Vick had his friends torture dogs and Meghan hates it.

George Bush has his friends torture humans at Abu Gared and Gitmo and Meghan loved it.

Dumb as i am, I’ll always give someone a 2nd chance. This goes against my nature.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Barryal,
This isn’t really about Vick. I agree that he deserves a second chance, and hope he is sincere in his remorse. This story is about the things Obama chooses to comment on. He’s silent on the wisdom of the Ground Zero mosque, but feels compelled to praise Vick. It’s Obama’s priorites that are the story, not Vick.

Bullshit. You hate the man so you find fault in everything that he does, period. You have nothing poisitve to sya about him whatsoever so you makeup bullshit excuses.

possibly said:
Mick Vick had his friends torture dogs and Meghan hates it.

George Bush has his friends torture humans at Abu Gared and Gitmo and Meghan loved it.

OOOOHHHHH, nice one.

possibly said:
Mick Vick had his friends torture dogs and Meghan hates it.

George Bush has his friends torture humans at Abu Gared and Gitmo and Meghan loved it.

C’mon that’s not true.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
The_Reasonable_Lib says:
December 28, 2010 at 4:48 pm The_Reasonable_Lib(Quote)

Tell some more lies for us, son.

I like reading your lies.

possibly said:
George Bush has his friends torture humans at Abu Gared and Gitmo and Meghan loved it.

Those weren’t humans- they were terrorists.

possibly said:
Mick Vick had his friends torture dogs and Meghan hates it.George Bush has his friends torture humans at Abu Gared and Gitmo and Meghan loved it.

That was a devastating destruction, the likes of which cannot be overstated.

Conservatives may as well give up and go home after that one. Zing!

MediaWhore said:
Conservatives may as well give up and go home after that one

MediaWhore said:
That was a devastating destruction, the likes of which cannot be overstated.

Conservatives may as well give up and go home after that one.

You need to be in a home.

You don’t think Obimbo is playing to the Black audience on this one…do you? Obimbo seems to make a habit out of commenting on subjects concerning Blacks that are in trouble without the necessary facts, and consistently makes an ass out of himself….And he’s suppose to be a lawyer?? I bet his diploma is in the same hiding place his birth-certificate is?

Where is the “Zing”? People do not equate to dogs. The analogy fails. Vick put his animals in a pit and bet on the outcome of their effort.

notsofast said:
Tell some more lies for us, son.

I like reading your lies.

Sorry, but I’m not falling into your traps. Have a nice day, child.

notsofast said:
Those weren’t humans- they were terrorists.

Those weren’t dogs, they were dinner.

Poor Kelly – It’s going to be her turn to learn about the hysterical retribution from the lunatic-left:

Achtung! The NEW POLITICAL ORDER IS HERE!

Anyone who criticizes TheOne, our beloved Messiah, OR ANY OF HIS ACTIONS, DECREES, POLICIES OR PALS will be condemned. They will be ostracized from society, they will be labeled a threat to national security, they will be attacked and smeared using MILLIONS from lunatic-left extremist soros, they will be called “unpatriotic”, “un-American”, “a terrorist”,”destructive” and “a racist”, they will have to actually pay taxes (unlike lunatic-left socialist tax-cheats rangel, geithner, caroline “you know” kennedy, olbermann, kerry, daschle, killifer, solis, kirk, sebelius and millions of others) and they will be vilified until they succumb to the ONLY ACCEPTABLE POLITICAL VIEW – that of the lunatic-left socialists.

All hail TheOne! Resistance is futile.

UNreasonable Lib, I find it curious that my comment angered you, when it’s nothing but fact, but you loved possibly’s comment that Megyn praised Abu Graib, which was a total LIE! I think that tells us all we need to know about you.

lazzzlo said:
Where is the “Zing”? People do not equate to dogs. The analogy fails. Vick put his animals in a pit and bet on the outcome of their effort.

We do the same and call it “boxing”

He watched while the dogs tore each other apart.

LEAVE MIKE VICK AND PRESIDENT OBAMA ALONE!!!
HERE IS WHY ALL THIS CRAP IS NONSENSE!
http://sportsfanbaltimore.blogspot.com/2010/12/president-obama-is-glad-mike-vick-got.html

Unreasonable Libs says:

Sorry, but I’m not falling into your traps. Have a nice day, child.

Translation: You got me and I have no comeback.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Sorry, but I’m not falling into your traps. Have a nice day, child.

Tell us all more of your lies. That’s all you do.

You make it up with absolutely no substance or proof.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
We do the same and call it “boxing”

Almost correct, except that both combatants are aware of what is going on.

Unreasonable Lib says:

We do the same and call it “boxing”

Yeah, but boxers have a choice. Last time I checked, MIke Tyson, wasn’t tied down and raped. That fact that you don’t see the difference, is disgusting, but not at all surprising.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
We do the same and call it “boxing”

Really?

How many boxers have been hanged or electrocuted or shot to death, child of lies?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
UNreasonable Lib, I find it curious that my comment angered you, when it’s nothing but fact, but you loved possibly’s comment that Megyn praised Abu Graib, which was a total LIE! I think that tells us all we need to know about you.

I found that comment funny. And no, your is actually not fact. Unless you are around the man 24/7 you have no idea what he says about anything. The fact that you oppose the man in anything he does tells us all that we need to know about you. The fact that you never backup anything you say shows that its pure opine. I urge you to start backing some things up because you have yet to disprove anything I’ve ever said. That speaks volumes.

@The_Reasonable_Lib, “We do the same and call it ‘boxing’. ”

Boxers have a choice, animals are forced to do it against their will. Therein lies the very important difference. Also, boxers do it for big money, so I have no sympathy for them.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Unreasonable Libs says:

Sorry, but I’m not falling into your traps. Have a nice day, child.

Translation: You got me and I have no comeback.

No, Notsosmart doesn’t mean to engage in serious discussion, he just hurls baseless insults all day. He’s like Gordon Bloyer Jr.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Unless you are around the man 24/7 you have no idea what he says about anything.

Like you have?

YOU ARE A CONGENITAL LIAR- child of lies!

Um, UNreasonable lib, you didn’t disprove anything I said so I rest my case. Go back to watching your dogs fight.

lazzzlo said:
Almost correct, except that both combatants are aware of what is going on.

True

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
No, Notsosmart doesn’t mean to engage in serious discussion, he just hurls baseless insults all day. He’s like Gordon Bloyer Jr.

No, son- I just point out your lies and that is an INSULT to you!

LOL

i dunno, down here in Florida we do get serious cock fighting rings.

Y’all can read that however you want to read it; but imported roosters are bred and equipped with spurs and then sent into a ring to determine a winner.

It happens with a lot of different critters.

lazzzlo said:
down here in Florida we do get serious cock fighting rings.

Are they circumcised or uncircumcised?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Unreasonable Lib says:

We do the same and call it “boxing”

Yeah, but boxers have a choice. Last time I checked, MIke Tyson, wasn’t tied down and raped. That fact that you don’t see the difference, is disgusting, but not at all surprising.

Did I say I didn’t see a difference? Please don’t put words in my mouth. I’m saying that with regards to the comment “Vick put his animals in a pit and bet on the outcome of their effort” it’s the same as boxing. Context matters, little girl.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
it’s the same as boxing.

You are truly an ignoramus of epic proportions.

Again, ow many boxers have been hanged or electrocuted or shot to death, child of lies?

I also own a couple of Airedale terriers that aren’t like that but could be.

I got my wind up on that one.

I don’t forgive Michael Vick for anything…he hosted a killing ring.

notsofast said:
You are truly an ignoramus of epic proportions.

Again, ow many boxers have been hanged or electrocuted or shot to death, child of lies?

blood sport in Asia is common.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
it’s the same as boxing.

Really?

Then why didn’t Vick say that, child?

You are the only demented and despicable miscreant who has ever averred that animal abuse/ murder and boxing are the same.

Staggering ignorance.

UN reasonable lib, you lost this round in tremendous fashion. Go sit in the corner and lick your wounds.

lazzzlo said:
blood sport in Asia is common.

This ain’t Asia.

Lazzlo says:

blood sport in Asia is common.

So are human trafficking and honor killings, but that doesn’t make it right.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Um, UNreasonable lib, you didn’t disprove anything I said so I rest my case. Go back to watching your dogs fight.

I don’t have any dogs, I don’t have any pets. Personally, I don’t like dogs, doesn’t mean I condone what Vick did. I have in no way endorsed it and you will in no way find that I have. I’m not a big meat eater either, beef disgusts me. I did disprove it. Unless you can find every person he has interacted with, you cannot prove ANYTHING you have said. Furthermore, I disprove what you say here as well:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/death-panels-return-to-fill-holiday-news-dead-zone/#comment-255173
Go back to the talking salamander and tell him to help you with a brain, scarecrow.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
UN reasonable lib, you lost this round in tremendous fashion. Go sit in the corner and lick your wounds.

I don’t come to win, I come to engage in conversation, unfortunately the only ones with any substance here happen to be lazzzlo and a few others. the rest is people like yourself and notsosmart.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Lazzlo says:

blood sport in Asia is common.

So are human trafficking and honor killings, but that doesn’t make it right.

notsofast said:
This ain’t Asia.

I never said it was correct.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Furthermore, I disprove what you say here as well:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/death-panels-return-to-fill-holiday-news-dead-zone/#comment-255173

LOL

The lying child tries to change the subject.

Typical lib!

Where is Megan’s outrage over her co-worker’s brutal slaying of the wolf dogs?

Palin flew over-head with a powerful rifle, blowing the brains out of helpless animals leaving their pups to die of starvation. Many of the wolfs that were injured limped away only to be eaten alive by other viscous dogs.

I never thought I would see the day when Fox News would celebrate such a horrible animal killing monster.

Hey, unreasonable lib, you never answered, child.

How many boxers have been hanged or electrocuted or shot to death, child of lies?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Lazzlo says:

blood sport in Asia is common.

So are human trafficking and honor killings, but that doesn’t make it right.

Actually human trafficking is fairly common in the US as well, they do it with illegal immigrants fairly often. There are an estimated 10,000 forced laborers in California alone. the city of Atlanta has an estimated 200-300 children trafficked for sex.

lol, tonight I have Mike Vick in fantasy football for some silly championship points.

Every once in a while I will comment.

I have no problems w/ you..reasonable lib.

I’m just stretching my legs.

lazzzlo said:
I have no problems w/ you..reasonable lib.

Nor I you. You’re one of the few people here that actually try to engage in debate and are a free-thinker. I’d say you, INB (sometimes) and cjd ohio 1 are three conservatives that I could sit down with and have a real conversation about relevant issues with. Problem is we get drawn in by people who only want to condemn the other side and debate partisanship. I’ll admit that I fall victim to it sometimes as well though.

lazzzlo said:
I have no problems w/ you..reasonable lib.

Actually smart alec isn’t all that bad either.

Unreasonalbe Lib says:

Furthermore, I disprove what you say here as well:

Um, no you didn’t. He shouldn’t have promised unemployment wouldn’t go above 8% if he wasn’t sure he could deliver. Otherwise, he was just pandering, which we all know was the case. His Congress HAS spent more $$ than all the previous 100 Congress’ combined and he has in NO way been a unifier. Just the opposite. Nice try though!

Nice to see the racists are out again today. Well whatever, good for Megyn is fake outrage is what you’re into. I personally think she’s just an uptight bitch.

What racists are you referring to Jay?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Unreasonalbe Lib says:

Furthermore, I disprove what you say here as well:

Um, no you didn’t. He shouldn’t have promised unemployment wouldn’t go above 8% if he wasn’t sure he could deliver. Otherwise, he was just pandering, which we all know was the case. His Congress HAS spent more $$ than all the previous 100 Congress’ combined and he has in NO way been a unifier. Just the opposite. Nice try though!

Actually I do because unemployment was already over 8% before his policies took effect. Furthermore, he has NOT spent over $45 trillion. Bush alone spent $21 trillion. that’s a lie and you know it: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090604065807AAEcM5k
For starters, President Obama has the most diverse base in America today which has been composed of african americans, latinos, liberals, CONSERVATIVES (http://conservativesforobama.blogspot.com/). Arlen Specter joining democrats, the president’s conference with Republicans nearly a year ago and his including Republican ideas in the healthcare bill: http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-care-meeting/republican-ideas
UNIFIER. Not his fault that republicans DON’T WANT to unify.

notsofast said:
Yep! Barry just loves domestic terrorists and animal murderers.

That means he loves you. ahhhhhhh, Classic.

It’s just too bad Fox doesn’t report real news!!

skyfet said:
That means he loves you. ahhhhhhh, Classic.

It came out recently on the Internet that skyfet was the foreman of the first O.J.Jury , so he has experience with murderous quarterbacks .

Big Eddie said:
It came out recently on the Internet that skyfet was the foreman of the first O.J.Jury , so he has experience with murderous quarterbacks .

The classic race baiter is back.

LOL at all the idiots who think this is a chance to score points against Obama.

Not gonna happen. Move on to your next faux outrage.

Vick did something wrong, they threw the book at him to make an example, and he went to prison and bankrupt as well. He served his time. He said what he did was wrong. Are we supposed to treat him with shame and disgust for the rest of his life for that, or is that just Megyn Kelly’s opinion?

This is America. The Eagles did a good thing by giving him a second chance. Wasn’t so happy about watching him embarrass the hell out of my Redskins on national television, but hey, that’s football.

skyfet said:
The classic race baiter is back.

You are still the master , skyhook .

Big Eddie said:
It came out recently on the Internet that skyfet was the foreman of the first O.J.Jury , so he has experience with murderous quarterbacks .

Sorry to break the news to you but O.J. was a running back, so I guess that throws your theory out the window.

UNreasonable lib, that link to Conservatives for Barry was from right after the election! I also know some on my side of the isle who bought into Hope and Change, and the whole historical aspect of the election, but believe me, they regret it now. I’ll give it to you though, you’re a master at spin. The FACT is, BO’s approval has tanked and there’s a reason for it.

Big Eddie said:
You are still the master , skyhook .

You the one that always find a way to bring O.J into any topic, lol any darn topic. If it’s about a dog (you see OJ), if its about a flower (you see OJ), if it’s about the blizzard hitting the east coast (you see OJ). My gash, did he dump you for someone else?

1 – Giving people a second chance is very Christian

2 – Giving people a second chance is very American.

3 – Most of the people whining in this thread actually think they are good Americans and Christians.

THE MEDIAITE CHRISTIAN: WE BELIEVE YOU DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE BUT WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO LORD IT OVER YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR NATURAL LIFE.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
UNreasonable lib, that link to Conservatives for Barry was from right after the election! I also know some on my side of the isle who bought into Hope and Change, and the whole historical aspect of the election, but believe me, they regret it now. I’ll give it to you though, you’re a master at spin. The FACT is, BO’s approval has tanked and there’s a reason for it.

I don’t think anyone is paying attention to your area. It’s a Red state through and through, so it doesn’t matter if BO gains or looses support in that area. That is also one of the smallest state in the union, who received the Govt. check. Ahhh, you want tit for yourself, but not for others. How about you all fend for yourself.

Skyfet,
He’s lost support in EVERY area, not just mine. Denial is just a river in Egypt to you libs, isn’t it?

Big Eddie said:
quarterbacks

How do you tie your own shoe? or know what to eat or not to eat?

I see you find it hard to tell the difference between a quarterbacks and a running back.
People like Eddie are those that need help, but are used as useful idiots to fight against their own self interests by wealthy Republicans like the Koch Brothers.
For your info, the Koch’s are the one behind the phony tea party.

skyfet said:
I don’t think anyone is paying attention to your area. It’s a Red state through and through, so it doesn’t matter if BO gains or looses support in that area. That is also one of the smallest state in the union, who received the Govt. check. Ahhh, you want tit for yourself, but not for others. How about you all fend for yourself.

Does anyone speak skyfetese ? If so , please to work for translation type . Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!

skyfet said:
You the one that always find a way to bring O.J into any topic, lol any darn topic. If it’s about a dog (you see OJ), if its about a flower (you see OJ), if it’s about the blizzard hitting the east coast (you see OJ). My gash, did he dump you for someone else?

This is about Mike Vick . Why bring up Simpson ?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Skyfet,
He’s lost support in EVERY area, not just mine. Denial is just a river in Egypt to you libs, isn’t it?

Why don’t you speak for your tiny area and let everyone else do their own talking with their vote in 2012. On election nigh, your state is already called before the halfway into counting. It’s irrelevant. So just go and sing to the choir, no one cares.

skyfet said:
How do you tie your own shoe? or know what to eat or not to eat? I see you find it hard to tell the difference between a quarterbacks and a running back.People like Eddie are those that need help, but are used as useful idiots to fight against their own self interests by wealthy Republicans like the Koch Brothers.For your info, the Koch’s are the one behind the phony tea party.

No need to bring football into this , sahib .

Quit watching Ed Schultz and maybe you’ll learn something , but probably not . Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh !

Big Eddie said:
Does anyone speak skyfetese ? If so , please to work for translation type . Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!
Ahhh, someone (eddie) lost credibility recently so he is just firing everywhere. If you read the pose above you, you can see that she already replied. So your question is invalid.

Let’s hope there are some animal lovers on Vick’s opposing teams! Maybe then he will get a taste of his own medicine.

President Obama PRIVATELY commended the Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie for giving a convict who served his time a second chance. It was a risky PR move for such a public business.

It’s a great story of redemption that we should hope for all released felons. That would be the best thing for OUR society.

You vultures are hilarious. Fox News sure knows its audience well.

libra blue said:
Let’s hope there are some animal lovers on Vick’s opposing teams! Maybe then he will get a taste of his own medicine.

Wow, libra blue shows up in another thread to disparage a Black person or Black people in general.

No surprise there…

Too bad he wasn’t also a Muslim. You could have gotten a twofer.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
What racists are you referring to Jay?

Oh, I donno….

libra blue said:
Good for Megyn!

Not a coincidence that the two biggest supporters of Michael Vick’s “second chance” are black.

Vick was a multimillionaire who killed and tortured the trusting of animals for pleasure and profit.

He didn’t stop until he got caught.

Even if he weren’t allowed to play pro-football again (in the US), he’d still be a multi-millionaire. He’s not some 18-year-old kid who made one mistake on one night. This “second chance” sounds silly.

Throwing a football and dogfighting is all this asshole can do. What’s he supposed to say? I don’t regret forcing dogs to tear each other apart for my amusement and enrichment?

P.S. It’s funny, Obama was much less forgiving of Don Imus for uttering the phrase “nappy-headed ho’s”. Even after Imus apologized–and to an embarrasing extent, in my opinion–Obama still thought he deserved to be fired.

skyfet said:
That means he loves you. ahhhhhhh, Classic.

Not quite, you insufferable POS.

Barry is just doing this so he can get the ex-con vote when Dims decide that they and the illegals should be allowed to vote.

possibly said:
Mick Vick had his friends torture dogs and Meghan hates it. George Bush has his friends torture humans at Abu Gared and Gitmo and Meghan loved it.

Lets let all the convicts out and give them a second chance..Since the prision population is 66% african american im sure that obama will find some others to look up too!

Nacho said:
President Obama PRIVATELY commended the Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie for giving a convict who served his time a second chance. It was a risky PR move for such a public business. It’s a great story of redemption that we should hope for all released felons. That would be the best thing for OUR society. You vultures are hilarious. Fox News sure knows its audience well.

You ever read Crime and Punishment? What am I saying. Of course, you haven’t. You have no idea what the word “redemption” means. Vick committed a terrible crime and his punishment was little more than a speed-bump on the long road of his sweet life. Other than his own self-serving words, what evidence do you have that he has been redeemed? I’ll bet he hasn’t lost a single night of sleep over what he did to those dogs.

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Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
What racists are you referring to Jay?

Oh, I donno….

jjay7381 said:
libra blue said:
Good for Megyn!

Not a coincidence that the two biggest supporters of Michael Vick’s “second chance” are black.

So facts are racist now?

The real racist was Whoopi Goldberg who tried to pass this type of deplorable behavior off as just a part of the “black culture.”

Translation: If you criticize him , you are a racist.

But too bad for Whoopi, America didn’t buy that excuse.

notsofast said:
Not quite, you insufferable POS.

ahhhh , nice to see you like this.

notsofast said:
So facts are racist now? The real racist was Whoopi Goldberg who tried to pass this type of deplorable behavior off as just a part of the “black culture.” Translation: If you criticize him , you are a racist. But too bad for Whoopi, America didn’t buy that excuse.

It was also racist to believe OJ was guilty. Ya know, the OJ Simpson case was supposedly America’s big racial Rorschach’s test. Interestingly, we have no record–at least none of which I’m aware–of Obama ever sharing his thoughts on that case. I wonder why. We even know Bill Clinton’s view thanks to Stephanopolous’s book. I think journalists (i.e. white liberals) are afraid to ask Obama that question.

skyfet said:
ahhhh , nice to see you like this.

What a coincidence; I just took out the trash and you show up!

I don’t think Vick is sorry about what he did as much as he is sorry he got caught. He consistently lied about his involvement until he figured he couldn’t get away with the lies anymore. He received a lighter sentence by naming his co-conspirators. He hid money before he went to prison and is still hiding the money instead of coming clean about what he did. He said he thinks he should be named MVP. As much as I’m not a fan of Tom Brady he has too much class to suggest that he should be named MVP. He wants to own a dog again!? It just seems less like he knows that he did a bad thing and more like he has somewhat figured out what to do to give the appearance of being reformed.

@Sean68, “It’s funny, Obama was much less forgiving of Don Imus for uttering the phrase “nappy-headed ho’s”. Even after Imus apologized–and to an embarrasing extent, in my opinion–Obama still thought he deserved to be fired.”

Don’t you know that making a “racial” comment is worse than torturing and murdering innocent animals? As I said before, and I will continue to say it, the biggest defenders of Vick are blacks like Dr. White of the NAACP, Sharpton, and Obama.

And I thought that good Republican Christians (and there are no other Republicans, Praise Jesus) were all about forgiveness. Oh right, only if those who transgressed were white.(Think Chuck Colson) Praise Jesus!

@Sean68, “It was also racist to believe OJ was guilty.”

The only way that blacks can defend the indefensible is to call any criticism of blacks racist.

And all good liberals are only capable of recognizing a bad person as long as he’s white.

“The only way that blacks can defend the indefensible is to call any criticism of blacks racist”

Oh those stupid blacks. Right, Libra Blue? Now when whites defend the indefensible (think Iraq War) it’s the will of Jesus or at least the will of the superior white, Nordic race. Right, Libra Blue.

libra blue said:
@Sean68, “It’s funny, Obama was much less forgiving of Don Imus for uttering the phrase “nappy-headed ho’s”. Even after Imus apologized–and to an embarrasing extent, in my opinion–Obama still thought he deserved to be fired.” Don’t you know that making a “racial” comment is worse than torturing and murdering innocent animals? As I said before, and I will continue to say it, the biggest defenders of Vick are blacks like Dr. White of the NAACP, Sharpton, and Obama.

You’re right. Once any issue is cast in racial terms, the lines draw themselves. This is the strategy the left uses to tricl hispanics to vote Democrat. If the media/Dem’s can convince hispanics that anti-illegal immigration sentiment is motivated by anti-hispanic racism, then they know that they’ve created yet another aggrieved ethnic interest group in their pocket. The tough part for the Dem’s is not to overplay their hand and illicit a large backlash amongst whites (who know what their up to) before they’ve ensured a permanent lock on all national offices. Boy, what a paradise that’s going to be.

JohnnyDollarLoveChild said:
“The only way that blacks can defend the indefensible is to call any criticism of blacks racist” Oh those stupid blacks. Right, Libra Blue? Now when whites defend the indefensible (think Iraq War) it’s the will of Jesus or at least the will of the superior white, Nordic race. Right, Libra Blue.

You’re confused. We’re talking about a tendency on the part of all too many blacks to deflect valid criticisms as simply racism. You’re reply to that point is a bit of a non-sequitur.

writer said:
And all good liberals are only capable of recognizing a bad person as long as he’s white.

The problem with most white liberals is that they are too weak to assert anything approaching moral authority in any case that would find them adverse to what they deem to be any area of black moral authority. And the best example here is simply white racism. The attitude of most white liberals is absolute abject deference to the opinion of blacks.

@Sean68, “You’re confused. We’re talking about a tendency on the part of all too many blacks to deflect valid criticisms as simply racism. You’re reply to that point is a bit of a non-sequitur.”

You are absolutely correct. I am glad someone with a brain could understand what I was saying.

JohnnyDollarLoveChild’s comment proves my point. If you don’t have a good argument against what someone says just cry racism.

libra blue said:
Good for Megyn!

Not a coincidence that the two biggest supporters of Michael Vick’s “second chance” are black.

I’d say Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie is Vick’s biggest supporter.

Nacho said:
I’d say Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie is Vick’s biggest supporter.

As Al Davis liked to say, “Just win, baby!”

“The attitude of most white liberals is absolute abject deference to the opinion of blacks”

“We’re talking about a tendency on the part of all too many blacks to deflect valid criticisms as simply racism”

Ah the certitude of the right wing “broad brush.” – “Most white liberals” – “opinion of blacks” – “all too many blacks” – and this from those who, most likely, have limited knowledge of liberals and blacks. I suspect that if I said that all white conservatives were cracker assed racists, the above cited commenters would cry foul.

And BTW, what is “moral authority” and who is entitled to wield it?

@Nahco, “I’d say Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie is Vick’s biggest supporter.”

Only because he is hoping to make money off of him, nothing more.

BTW, I forgot to add Whoopi Goldberg and Russell Simmons to the list of Vick’s black defenders.

juan said:
On Chris Matthews, Harball, Clarence Page said Obama was much too busy to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. Matthews called out for Obama to release it and even showed a copy of a lomg form birth certificate issued 1 day before Obama was born. It’s strange that Obama has time to comment about Vick, play golf and basketball, but doesn’t have time to release the bc. It’s also very strange that all of his records, including college/university, are sealed and hidden. Obama’s first Political Prisoner, Lt. Col. Lakin, a flight-surgeon, is serving time in prison for refusing to deploy until Obama proved his eligibility. McCain revealed his bc and Congress declared him eligible. It’s strange that they did not declare Obama eligible.

You extremists have no interest in rational discourse. You have no interest in carrying on a dialogue. When publius asked for some discussion about whether or not they would grant the President any positive things, he was met with derision. You right wing extremists are only about hate, insults, and bigotry. Like McConnell (who decided he must curry favor with them), their only agenda is defeating the current President. The furthering of American ideals means nothing to them. Anti-gay, anti-most religions outside of Christian fundamentalism, anti-intellectual, anti-compromise, anti-American. These are lonely people who are on this system to hate, deride, and accomplish nothing. Just4fax, Seeing2012frommyWindow, TeaPartyPatriot, notsofast, timzank, and a bunch I am sure I have missed, (as well as Gordon, who is a special case): they are all as bad as The Real Royal King. They do not want dialogue. They are happiest when there is calamity and tragedy. They really want America to fail! Go crawl under a rock, and look for your own birth certificate there….

I do wonder if Libra Blue and Sean 68 would have accused those African Americans, who fought and died for civil rights, of being “uppity” towards their superior white masters.

Fact: Look humans fuck up! Even Vick. Prison, jail are places of change. He said he has changed that’s great we will see. I hope he has. Would I let him own a dog now? No! All humans need an extra chance or two all of us! That’s the fact! I have been to a pit bull farm were dogs were trained just to kill and breed that’s it. The dogs there live on a chain with a hut in the center. They eat and fight every day. The more they train the more calluses thicken on their scared heads. The dogs that just want to be given a pet on the back are the ones that are used to get ripped up and used as doggie bite dummies. Goats’ throats are cut and then are cooked for the fest and the goats’ blood is a scent that gets the dogs in a wild state before they are fought. Look none of these dogs that live in a place like that can be introduced back in houses to a real dog owners because they are ruined they all need to be put down. These animals need our sympathy because it is still happening today. People in NY are mostly liberals just have to dodge a poop pile or two what the fuck do they know right!

James Nelson said:
You extremists have no interest in rational discourse

Fact: Nelson the Funk Nasty talks shit again! Go piss off dick sucker! Really go back and suck a cock pussy!

James Nelson said:
You extremists have no interest in rational discourse. You have no interest in carrying on a dialogue. When publius asked for some discussion about whether or not they would grant the President any positive things, he was met with derision. You right wing extremists are only about hate, insults, and bigotry. Like McConnell (who decided he must curry favor with them), their only agenda is defeating the current President. The furthering of American ideals means nothing to them. Anti-gay, anti-most religions outside of Christian fundamentalism, anti-intellectual, anti-compromise, anti-American. These are lonely people who are on this system to hate, deride, and accomplish nothing. Just4fax, Seeing2012frommyWindow, TeaPartyPatriot, notsofast, timzank, and a bunch I am sure I have missed, (as well as Gordon, who is a special case): they are all as bad as The Real Royal King. They do not want dialogue. They are happiest when there is calamity and tragedy. They really want America to fail! Go crawl under a rock, and look for your own birth certificate there….

I don’t think I’m a right-wing extremist. But I do support him on repealing DADT, though he disagrees with me on gay marriage: I support it, and he said something along the lines of it goes against his values. I also support national healthcare, though with numerous caveats. I do support the spirit of the effort. I’m also not a big fan of wall street, though Obama has taken a great deal of money from them and asked VERY little in return. I’m also less a fan of Israel’s than he.

JohnnyDollarLoveChild said:
“The attitude of most white liberals is absolute abject deference to the opinion of blacks” “We’re talking about a tendency on the part of all too many blacks to deflect valid criticisms as simply racism” Ah the certitude of the right wing “broad brush.” – “Most white liberals” – “opinion of blacks” – “all too many blacks” – and this from those who, most likely, have limited knowledge of liberals and blacks. I suspect that if I said that all white conservatives were cracker assed racists, the above cited commenters would cry foul. And BTW, what is “moral authority” and who is entitled to wield it?

I used to be very far left. My father was a marxist historian who earned his PhD while I was in elementary school. Also, I was born in Oakland, California (not exactly famous for it’s limited number of blacks) and attended multi-racial schools where I played sports (baseball and football) with many blacks. The thrust of my comment was directed at white liberals, not necessarily blacks. Though I will point out that when I suggest blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime and violence, I get called a racist; when Chris Rock says it (in joke form) his black audience howls its endorsement.

“Fact: Nelson the Funk Nasty talks shit again! Go piss off dick sucker! Really go back and suck a cock pussy!”

Just4thefax just underscored James Nelson’s point about intolerance. BTW, Just4thefax, what grade are you currently enrolled in? But I do have to credit you with the ability to pack the maximum amount of “dirty words” (eww, do they turn you on?) in one sentence. Mirabile dictu, as they say!

@JohnnyDollarLoveChild, “I do wonder if Libra Blue and Sean 68 would have accused those African Americans, who fought and died for civil rights, of being “uppity” towards their superior white masters.”

Are you actually comparing a vicious dog murderer to those that fought for civil rights? Wow that was more than I could have hoped for!

“Though I will point out that when I suggest blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime and violence, I get called a racist”

D’uuuhhh. And yeah, right. Your father was a “Marxist historian.” Uh-huh. But perhaps you’d like to share your dad’s “CV” with us.

JohnnyDollarLoveChild said:
I do wonder if Libra Blue and Sean 68 would have accused those African Americans, who fought and died for civil rights, of being “uppity” towards their superior white masters.

I missed this one. I wouldn’t call any black person “uppity” in the sense that you mean it. That’s not how I think. You’re arguing with some stereotype that exists in your mind. The blacks (and whites) who practiced civil disobedience in opposition to unjust laws, I support them.

“Are you actually comparing a vicious dog murderer to those that fought for civil rights? Wow that was more than I could have hoped for”

Actually, you can’t “murder” an animal. It’s called animal cruelty. Vick served his time but because he’s black, I guess he can’t be forgiven. Right? And where did I “compare” Vick with those who fought for civil rights. I was responding to your stereotyping of “all too many blacks” and engaging in a bit of snark about how you would have perceived those who fought for civil rights.

So Sean 68′s dad was an Oakland “Marxist historian.” Was Sean 68′s dad Eldridge Cleaver?

JohnnyDollarLoveChild said:
“Though I will point out that when I suggest blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime and violence, I get called a racist” D’uuuhhh. And yeah, right. Your father was a “Marxist historian.” Uh-huh. But perhaps you’d like to share your dad’s “CV” with us.

This is always a dumb question. What’s the point? How much info do you need? He got his B.A. from the University of Maine. His Master’s from Holy Names College. And he earned his PhD from Berkeley. His thesis was on Andrew Jackson. I remember when I was in fifth grade bragging to my teacher that my dad was a Jacksonian scholar! My father was a leftist and that’s how I was raised. I was raided to be pro-union. To admire John Steinbeck and Charles Beard.

JohnnyDollarLoveChild said:
So Sean 68’s dad was an Oakland “Marxist historian.” Was Sean 68’s dad Eldridge Cleaver?

Only after he turned right. LOL. But seriously, unlike Eldridge, my father never raped white women for insurrectionary purposes.

JohnnyDollarLoveChild said:
“Are you actually comparing a vicious dog murderer to those that fought for civil rights? Wow that was more than I could have hoped for” Actually, you can’t “murder” an animal. It’s called animal cruelty. Vick served his time but because he’s black, I guess he can’t be forgiven. Right? And where did I “compare” Vick with those who fought for civil rights. I was responding to your stereotyping of “all too many blacks” and engaging in a bit of snark about how you would have perceived those who fought for civil rights.

No, because he’s black, he’s already forgiven in your mind.

Is he black? Then Fox has it covered. They will go after this for days. Watch!

JohnnyDollarLoveChild said:
Just4thefax just underscored James Nelson’s point about intolerance

Fact: Look at my first post asshole.Two below your dick sucking buddy! I stated Vick does need a second chance I didn’t see anything degrading behind it! But I do think that all your post are made from a mental light weight and should concern the person posting such bullshit to question why they even bother to think that they are actually trying to think because all it’s doing is making the rest of us out here just laugh and make us feel great that I’m glad I’m not that fool! Fuck off slopjar! You are the real dumb shit!

JohnnyDollarLoveChild said:
So Sean 68’s dad was an Oakland “Marxist historian.” Was Sean 68’s dad Eldridge Cleaver?

Fact: Typical lies from the liberal lunitic! Lies then lies! Pay attention here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfE51W1eZfQ

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Bullshit. You hate the man so you find fault in everything that he does, period. You have nothing poisitve to sya about him whatsoever so you makeup bullshit excuses.

Advice you should take when commenting on Beck, Palin, Rush , etc. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Why is it everytime I read anything on the internet about football, there are people that mention their fantasy team? Here is a note to everyone with an internet connection.

The only person on Earth that gives a crap about your fantasy team is you, stop mentioning it evrey chance you get.

This is right up there with collecting Star Wars toys, World of Warcraft, and anything to do with comic books. It makes you a loser.

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but james i like my star trek lol

Megyn Kelly = queen of fake outrage.

libra blue said:
@The_Reasonable_Lib, “We do the same and call it ‘boxing’. ”

Boxers have a choice, animals are forced to do it against their will. Therein lies the very important difference. Also, boxers do it for big money, so I have no sympathy for them.

Do bulls have a choice when they go to the slaughter house?

CAconservative said:
You don’t think Obimbo is playing to the Black audience on this one…do you? Obimbo seems to make a habit out of commenting on subjects concerning Blacks that are in trouble without the necessary facts, and consistently makes an ass out of himself….And he’s suppose to be a lawyer?? I bet his diploma is in the same hiding place his birth-certificate is?

What? Isn’t it the CA CONSERVATIVE who brings RACE into the issue? What a surprise. Your premise is also flawed. Obama has 90% approval with blacks. Why would he need to pander more towards them? That makes no sense. You would have been on point if your prejudiced self didn’t look at everything through a racial lens. perhaps say he’s trying to appeal to PA voters, a likely swing state in 2012.

Sean68 said:
It was also racist to believe OJ was guilty. Ya know, the OJ Simpson case was supposedly America’s big racial Rorschach’s test. Interestingly, we have no record–at least none of which I’m aware–of Obama ever sharing his thoughts on that case. I wonder why. We even know Bill Clinton’s view thanks to Stephanopolous’s book. I think journalists (i.e. white liberals) are afraid to ask Obama that question.

Why is it important to you what Obama thinks of OJ Simpson? Isn’t this just the racist horse you right wingers always ride on? Citizens do not determine any person’s guilt or innocence. A jury does. This is the USA, not Iran. Everyone else is entitled to their opinion. Actually, most people in the black community supported OJ’s acquittal. That, however, should not be conflated with the presumption that they believed in his innocence.

Jeeezzuuss keerrist!! If Obama hung his toilet paper one of the two ways avaialble Megyn Kelly would become indignant and insist the other method was the only proper way to hang toilet paper. Who give a rat’s ass about what Megyn Kelly says other than Megyn Kelly?

Gasket said:
Do bulls have a choice when they go to the slaughter house? What? Isn’t it the CA CONSERVATIVE who brings RACE into the issue? What a surprise. Your premise is also flawed. Obama has 90% approval with blacks. Why would he need to pander more towards them? That makes no sense. You would have been on point if your prejudiced self didn’t look at everything through a racial lens. perhaps say he’s trying to appeal to PA voters, a likely swing state in 2012. Why is it important to you what Obama thinks of OJ Simpson? Isn’t this just the racist horse you right wingers always ride on? Citizens do not determine any person’s guilt or innocence. A jury does. This is the USA, not Iran. Everyone else is entitled to their opinion. Actually, most people in the black community supported OJ’s acquittal. That, however, should not be conflated with the presumption that they believed in his innocence.

That’s my thought as well. That most black people supported OJ’s acquittal, despite their belief in his guilt. I was just curious as to why the media wouldn’t think to ask the very first black president what his thoughts were on that most profound of cultural dividing lines. Oh, and because I’m a racist. However, I would never support the freeing of a white person for killing a black person if I thought he actually committed the murder. That’s the difference between a white racist and the majority of black non-racists. Now go ahead and tell me I’m ignorant of history etc.

Sean68 said:
That’s my thought as well. That most black people supported OJ’s acquittal, despite their belief in his guilt. I was just curious as to why the media wouldn’t think to ask the very first black president what his thoughts were on that most profound of cultural dividing lines. Oh, and because I’m a racist. However, I would never support the freeing of a white person for killing a black person if I thought he actually committed the murder. That’s the difference between a white racist and the majority of black non-racists. Now go ahead and tell me I’m ignorant of history etc.

Oh, and just to make it clear for you: My point was that the media functions basically as Obama’s very own PR firm. They protect him from any issue that might hurt him. And they have since the Iowa primary. Just ask honest Hillary supporters.

Bill Adkins said:
Jeeezzuuss keerrist!! If Obama hung his toilet paper one of the two ways avaialble Megyn Kelly would become indignant and insist the other method was the only proper way to hang toilet paper. Who give a rat’s ass about what Megyn Kelly says other than Megyn Kelly?

Sure Fox News drums shit up. This was probably nothing more than Obama making pleasant small talk with a guy, little more than an aside in a larger conversation. But don’t think for one second MSNBC or any other leftist media is any different.

@Gasket, “Do bulls have a choice when they go to the slaughter house?”

No, and that is why I am a vegetarian.

With all the troubles riddling our country, Mr. Obama, I ask you, how is praising a cold-hearted KILLER – someone who is capable of killing and mutilating animals by beating,hanging,drowning as well as ELECTROCUTION something that should ever be on your radar screen? HOW, with everything that is going on here and in the world and that needs to be attended to/sorted out,does this in any way merit your time, support or even commentary? I don’t give a rats a## about Vick’s comeback – in fact, I find it disgusting, as should you. This is not giving a fellon a chance…….how many fellons come out of prison from HIDEOUS crimes to be welcomed back to a multi-million dollar carreer? The fact that you would go out on a limb on this does not speak well of your true character.I’m appalled and will no longer give you the benefit of the doubt. Wonder what the back-peddal is going to look like, because you made a very BAD choice here……..

This story is basically a story of redemption. Whether you want to get it or not, Obama is trying to teach the hard-hearted ‘conservative’ Americans that redemption is not only a possibility but a necessity. We Americans, especially the rightwingers have lost our way and become a nation of greedy, selfish, self-seeking people interested only in our most immediate needs. We certainly are no longer practicing anything remotely like genuine Christian or Jewish charity. We make war unnessarily on other people, we won’t take care our own people in need, and we glorify and elevate the rich. On top of that we’ve become alienated from the rest of the world who think we are going insane and losing control of the qualities that have made us a great nation. They’re probably right and maybe it’s time we got off this negative binge before we’re beyond redemption. If Vick can do it we can do it.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Actually smart alec isn’t all that bad either.

Gosh! You’re making me blush.

I was pissed for a few seconds after reading you first comment where I wasn’t included…then I read this one.

Thanks and back at ya’

There’s something wrong with Obama’s mind, his values are screwed up, honestly I believe he’s mentally ill for making a crazy comment like this. Of all the people who’ve been in prison, Michael Vick is one that did not deserve a second chance. First off he was a million dollar football player when he committed his crimes of beating and killing innocent dogs. It wasn’t like Vick fought dogs to support his family, he did it out of plain old meanness and fun. Second the nature of his crime was violence against a helpless animal, he should still be in jail much less living the good life. If Obama wanted to make a point about giving people second chances, he should have picked some 19 year old kid who got busted for drugs and straightened out his life by getting a second chance. Not some arrogant, millionaire dog killer. Obama is wired wrong in the head. It’s dangerous having someone with such poor judgement being president.

ganymede, you’ve got things backwards. It’s the lying, constantly cheating liberals who need a dose of humility. The arrogance of Congress this past year was disgusting watching a group of marginally intelligent people sit back and chastise the American people like we were little kids. What right do these primadonnas have to think they can come in and take 50% of people earnings to spend on their pet projects and to buy votes. If you would do some research and look and see which group of people liberal or conservative donate the most to charity, you would see conservatives give three times more to charity, whereas liberals spend most of their money on yachts, big SUV’s, jewelery, for example Elton John spent $30,000 on 12 robes at Neiman Marcus in NYC. That is excessive. ganymede do some research before shooting your mouth off.

I hate dogs. Make Vick get a cat.

He should never have been punished so harshly in the first place. Out in Bakersfield they would give him a slap on the wrist and let him go.

Fact: Look Liberal scum I know where he can get a few reds! These chickens have some spirs that will cut like a ginsu knife!

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Should Michael Vick be allowed to have a dog or allowed to play football?

Here are my thoughts on that:>

If he wasn’t a celebrity/ pro-asslete, this wouldn’t even be a question. The money you have and the lawyers you can afford shouldn’t set a precedence over human decency. I realize ‘human decency’ is a relative term these days because it gets pushed away too quickly due to money of the offenders and the greed of the lawyers. Those dogs didn’t deserve to suffer nor does any victim of an abuse crime. All life is not ours to do with as we please. If he was a moral, decent human being, it wouldn’t have happened. PERIOD. It is time for the victims of violent crimes to get the defense they deserve and it is time to STOP coddling the abusers!! ~~Peace~~

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