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Michelle Obama Addresses Those Who ‘Hate’ The President With Matt Lauer

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First Lady Michelle Obama appeared with Matt Lauer on The Today Show and addressed a wide range of issues from the situation in Egypt, to her Super Bowl Party menu to her husband’s successful effort to quit smoking. While she deftly demurred on Egypt saying “I’m not going to comment on his policy decisions,” she did discuss the “hate” towards her husband brought up in Bill O’Reilly in a pre-Super Bowl interview with the president.

Lauer brought up the subject in a delicate matter saying “before the Super Bowl your husband gave an interview to Bill O’reilly and was asked if it disturbed him that so many people hated him,” continuing “Ithink the word “hate” is a very powerful word. Do you think people hate your husband, even those on the far right?”

Ms. Obama’s response was remarkably restrained, saying:

I’m sure that there are some people who don’t like my husband. any president of the United States. This is a tough job. You’re not going to please everybody all the time. That’s not why you do this job. There are tough decisions that have to be made. So I’m sure there are people who don’t like my husband. There are people who have had strong feelings about every single president that’s ever held the office.

The entire interview covers a “potpourri” of subjects: Ms. Obama defended her comfort food Super Bowl party menu (in light of her anti-obesity campagin) by reminding Lauer that she has always been in favor of a balanced approach. She also talked about raising her children in a White House environment and how she has no interest in having her kids get on Facebook.

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  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Did Matt ask her what she thinks of her hubby calling his political opponents enemies?

  • rover37

    she is so ugly I can barelt watch her talk. We are forcfed how beautiful and fit she is and its so not true. SHe is a shemale, huge forehead, MR ed teeth, and she cant even close her mouth wither her underbite. Her butt his huge and its still debateable she is a man…….. Its frightfull.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    I wouldn’t say she’s ugly Rover. The problem is she never smiles. But in her defense, what is there to smile about if you are a hate-filled liberal.

  • Harry Flashman

    Meh.

    I don’t like her husband and the gaggle of leftists he surrounds himself with but I have no real beef (no food pun intended) with her. I don’t trust her, but that’s a different issue.

    The food thing is a minor issue and will go away when she does. And all First Ladies pick siome sort of cause that they champion – for better or worse – while they inhabit the Hill. She’s no different.

    And his kids should be off limits. Period. All politician’s kids should be.

  • JamesA1102

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I wouldn’t say she’s ugly Rover. The problem is she never smiles. But in her defense, what is there to smile about if you are a hate-filled liberal.

    She is smiling in the pic above and the only hate I can see here is not coming from the left.

  • tatboy

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Did Matt ask her what she thinks of her hubby calling his political opponents enemies?

    Or automatically calling a white cop& other cops “stupid” (they acted stupidly) when he “in his own words” knew NOTHING about the case or what happened??? Nice.

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    The problem is she never smiles. But in her defense, what is there to smile about if you are a hate-filled liberal.

    What an immense liar you are. Look at the still before the comments begin. What a beautiful smile! And you so often see it.

  • JamesA1102

    Harry Flashman said:
    And all First Ladies pick siome sort of cause that they champion – for better or worse – while they inhabit the Hill. She’s no different. And his kids should be off limits. Period. All politician’s kids should be.

    Well said, Harry!

  • The Real Royal King

    Ms. Obama handled the interview with style and class. I much admire her.

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    what is there to smile about if you are a hate-filled liberal.

    You mean the way you are a hate-filled Mormon?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    I should have said she rarely smiles, not never. She is very pretty when she does smile. I stand by the rest of my statement. I do not get the feeling she is a happy person and does seem angry. But I’d probably be to if I listened ot Rev. Wright most of my life.

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I should have said she rarely smiles, not never. She is very pretty when she does smile. I stand by the rest of my statement. I do not get the feeling she is a happy person and does seem angry. But I’d probably be to if I listened ot Rev. Wright most of my life.

    Jesus, Mary and Jesus, you are one unhappy person yourself.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    You can keep saying that Royal Dimwit, but that doesn’t make it true. It just seems to me that you have a problem with the truth.

  • paulmdoro

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I should have said she rarely smiles, not never. She is very pretty when she does smile. I stand by the rest of my statement. I do not get the feeling she is a happy person and does seem angry. But I’d probably be to if I listened ot Rev. Wright most of my life.

    Awfully negative for someone accusing another of being hate-filled. You see no irony here?

  • paulmdoro

    Harry Flashman said:

    The food thing is a minor issue and will go away when she does. And all First Ladies pick siome sort of cause that they champion – for better or worse – while they inhabit the Hill. She’s no different.

    And his kids should be off limits. Period. All politician’s kids should be.

    Very wise words Harry.

  • Penguin60

    rover37 said:
    she is so ugly I can barelt watch her talk. We are forcfed how beautiful and fit she is and its so not true. SHe is a shemale, huge forehead, MR ed teeth, and she cant even close her mouth wither her underbite. Her butt his huge and its still debateable she is a man…….. Its frightfull.

    This is as bad as this:

    skyfet said:
    You mean the way you are a hate-filled Mormon?

    Looks and religion have nothing to do with anything.

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    You can keep saying that Royal Dimwit, but that doesn’t make it true. It just seems to me that you have a problem with the truth.

    My saying it my not make it true, but it is becoming self-evident to everyone. You seldom make a substantive post anymore, and you say some very nasty, ugly things about people in the news. In fact, you seldom say anything positive.

  • timzank

    But..But…But what did Glenn Beck say to his the doorman at his building this morning about this?? Colby, it’s 10:32 and no headline yet????

    whattup?

  • notsofast

    Matt was a racist for asking her that!

  • wasjustsayin

    Whew…looks like unhinged far-righties sure woke up on the wrong side of their senior home beds this morning. Yikes.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Here’s something positive. I agree with her about Facebook. My son isn’t on it either, even though he’s asked.

    And Paul, my comment may have been negative, but I fail to see where it’s incorrect. The truth isn’t always sunny. Are you saying that listening to the hate-filled rants of Rev. Wright most of your life wouldn’t influence your outlook?

  • paulmdoro

    It’s just your opinion Michelle, hardly factual, and you can be very negative considering you do not hesitate to call others hate-filled. My parents listened to an angry Catholic priest every Sunday for decades and it did not make them “hate-filled.” Far from it. There are not kinder people on this planet.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    You’re right Paul, it is my opinion. And again, being negative doesn’t make something false.

  • Penguin60

    paulmdoro said:
    My parents listened to an angry Catholic priest every Sunday for decades

    Bingo go bad Saturday night? :)

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    Bingo go bad Saturday night? :)

    Nah my parents don’t play bingo.

  • paulmdoro

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    You’re right Paul, it is my opinion. And again, being negative doesn’t make something false.

    You can be very judgmental at times. As I pointed out, listening to an angry pastor doesn’t automatically make a person angry.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    If my opinion means I’m judgemental, I guess so be it. She has always rubbed me the wrong way. On a personal level, Barack seems like a nice person, though I couldn’t agree with him more on politics, but Michelle doesn’t seem like a friendly, likable person to me. It probably stems from her negative comments about America. I don’t take kindly to that.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    couldn’t disagree more, that should read.

  • paulmdoro

    Relax. Michelle Obama does not hate America. Not liking someone is not the same as calling them “hate-filled.”

  • Penguin60

    paulmdoro said:
    Nah my parents don’t play bingo.

    No, for the hate filled priest, too many payouts. That or the Hennessy got shut off. That’s our Bishop’s favorite, that might make him hate filled.

  • paulmdoro

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    couldn’t disagree more, that should read.

    I figured.

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    No, for the hate filled priest, too many payouts. That or the Hennessy got shut off. That’s our Bishop’s favorite, that might make him hate filled.

    I’ve seen my fair share of angry Catholic priests. They can be pretty hateful. It’s not like Rev. Wright is the only angry religious figure out there.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    paulmdoro says:
    Relax. Michelle Obama does not hate America.

    See, now that’s your opinion. You can’t really know that.

  • Penguin60

    paulmdoro said:
    I’ve seen my fair share of angry Catholic priests. They can be pretty hateful. It’s not like Rev. Wright is the only angry religious figure out there.

    16 yrs of Catholic education, it’s not just the priests that can be angry, we had brothers and nuns. I have to admit I cannot recall an angry homily though.

  • A man without a Country

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    paulmdoro says:
    Relax. Michelle Obama does not hate America.

    See, now that’s your opinion. You can’t really know that.

    This America, we use our opinions as facts.

  • skyfet

    Penguin60 said:
    This is as bad as this:

    Looks and religion have nothing to do with anything.

    You pick and choose things that are not related. The reply was based on referring to her as hate-filled liberal not the looks. You should be the last adding commentary, since you lack the grasp to analyse.

  • sarainitaly

    her kidlets are adorable, and deserve to remain out of the spotlight. (i noticed MO left off Amy Carter)

    i despise attacks on MO’s looks, just as i do on Hillary or Sarah or Michelle. Have at ‘em wrt things they say or do, but the nasty ugly attacks on their looks are unnecessary.

    I have no problem with comments on wardrobe, I love hits and misses type stuff, as long as it’s not super mean. i have no problem with the media complimenting MO on her wardrobe but it drives me crazy when they call her a fashion icon, or the BEST dressed FOTUS evah! cuz that is just NOT true. She makes some terrible fashion choices sometimes. I also think it is rude to former first ladies…

    AS for Obama and his hair, I just can’t believe he doesn’t dye his hair – there is no way your hair goes from grey to black in one day. Unless he uses some kind of grecian formula/hair goop or something that puts a temporary color on it…

    As for the *hate* comment, what’s she going to say? She hates Bush, and despises the Clintons. Didn’t she want to rip out Bill’s eyes?

  • TangledThorns

    Obama is a socialist, people don’t like that. Problem, Michelle?

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I It probably stems from her negative comments about America. I don’t take kindly to that.

    Like America has always been perfect in her history. You sound like your hero Mitchelle.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Skyfet says:

    Like America has always been perfect in her history. You sound like your hero Mitchelle.

    My hero is Jesus Christ, did he say that?

  • Penguin60

    skyfet said:
    You pick and choose things that are not related. The reply was based on referring to her as hate-filled liberal not the looks. You should be the last adding commentary, since you lack the grasp to analyse.

    I know, the rat that gets cornered attacks, nice try though.

  • paulmdoro

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    paulmdoro says:
    Relax. Michelle Obama does not hate America.

    See, now that’s your opinion. You can’t really know that.

    I totally get that people don’t like the First Lady’s politics. Fair enough. But to believe she actually hates America? That I can’t fathom.

  • skyfet

    Penguin60 said:
    I know, the rat that gets cornered attacks, nice try though.

    You are projecting. I can’t remember seeing a rat attacking they always run.

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    16 yrs of Catholic education, it’s not just the priests that can be angry, we had brothers and nuns. I have to admit I cannot recall an angry homily though.

    15 years of Catholic education. I have seen many angry homilies. First one was fairly unexpected and shocking, but they became routine.

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King said:
    My saying it my not make it true, but it is becoming self-evident to everyone. You seldom make a substantive post anymore, and you say some very nasty, ugly things about people in the news. In fact, you seldom say anything positive.

    said Royal, completely missing the irony of such a statement.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Paul says:

    I totally get that people don’t like the First Lady’s politics. Fair enough. But to believe she actually hates America? That I can’t fathom.

    I’m not sure if I’d say she hates America, but she’s definately made some comments that make people question how much she actually likes it. I think that’s a fair statement to make.

  • paulmdoro

    Michelle, do you ever correct your child? Do you ever say they have done something wrong? Do you ever let them know you strongly disagree with a decision they have made?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Yes Paul, why do you ask?

  • paulmdoro

    And you still love your child right?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Of course Paul. But you’re suggesting she didn’t mean what she said and I don’t agree with that. I think she means it but might regret voicing it. Again, just my opinion.

  • paulmdoro

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Of course Paul.

    Exactly! Correcting your child and disagreeing with their decisions and telling them they are wrong does not mean you don’t love them. Same thing applies with one’s country.

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Of course Paul. But you’re suggesting she didn’t mean what she said and I don’t agree with that. I think she means it but might regret voicing it. Again, just my opinion.

    So what if she means it? Again you are acting like your heroes who believe America is stainless. I’ve got news for ya, it aint so.

  • ImNotBlue

    paulmdoro said:
    Exactly! Correcting your child and disagreeing with their decisions and telling them they are wrong does not mean you don’t love them. Same thing applies with one’s country.

    Not to jump in, but don’t you see a rather large difference in saying that you can “correct your child” or “disagree with their decisions,” and someone saying, “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country…”?

    That would be like a parent looking at their kid after they’ve done something and saying, “For the first time since you were born, I’m really proud of you.” That would be horrible! Parents are supposed to unconditionally love their children, even when they make mistakes. Mrs. Obama seemed to state that she only approved of her country now that people were thinking her way.

    Your analogy doesn’t work.

  • paulmdoro

    ImNotBlue said:
    Not to jump in, but don’t you see a rather large difference in saying that you can “correct your child” or “disagree with their decisions,” and someone saying, “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country…”?

    That would be like a parent looking at their kid after they’ve done something and saying, “For the first time since you were born, I’m really proud of you.” That would be horrible! Parents are supposed to unconditionally love their children, even when they make mistakes. Mrs. Obama seemed to state that she only approved of her country now that people were thinking her way.

    Your analogy doesn’t work.

    My analogy works for everyone but those who believe that single comment proves Michelle Obama doesn’t love America.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    paulmdoro says:
    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Of course Paul.

    Exactly! Correcting your child and disagreeing with their decisions and telling them they are wrong does not mean you don’t love them. Same thing applies with one’s country.

    I think you are comparing apples and oranges, but we can agree to disagree about this one too.

  • ImNotBlue

    paulmdoro said:
    My analogy works for everyone but those who believe that single comment proves Michelle Obama doesn’t love America.

    I don’t think a single comment proves anything about anyone. However, to simply ignore it (as so many have done), is equally foolish.

  • paulmdoro

    ImNotBlue said:
    I don’t think a single comment proves anything about anyone. However, to simply ignore it (as so many have done), is equally foolish.

    Is ignoring it any more foolish than reading too much into it?

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    paulmdoro says:
    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Of course Paul.

    Exactly! Correcting your child and disagreeing with their decisions and telling them they are wrong does not mean you don’t love them. Same thing applies with one’s country.

    I think you are comparing apples and oranges, but we can agree to disagree about this one too.

    No, I’m not. Being tough on your children doesn’t mean you don’t love them. Being tough on America doesn’t mean you don’t love it. I don’t think people who hate and criticize Obama dislike America.

  • The Real Royal King

    paulmdoro said:
    Being tough on America doesn’t mean you don’t love it.

    In fact, it can be extremely patriotic. The more we demand of our nation, the higher our expectations for our nation, the more we want the best for it.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Being tough on America isn’t the same thing and not liking it. You’re assuming things about Obama that you can’t possibly know. We are all speculating.

  • The Real Royal King

    On the night of the 2008 election I was extremely proud of America. I was never as proud of it. That doesn’t mean I had not been proud of America before.

    I was proud of America when we went into Afghanistan, when we led the efforts in Kosovo, when we took to the streets demanding an end to the war in Vietnam, when we took to the streets to extend civil rights to all Americans.

    I was deeply troubled by the Iraq invasion and occupation, by the passage of the so-called Patriot Act, by the 2000 election/appointment, by the invasion of Granada, by the war in Vietnam; by much of what W did, by Clinton’s dalliances, by Raygun’s efforts to make Americans feel comfortable with their prejudices, by Nixon’s corruption. I roundly criticized America for that. But, I remained proud of her because I was confident we could and would do better. We have.

    You can be proud and patriotic getting drunk and waving a flag or working for a better America.

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    My hero is Jesus Christ,

    Best laugh I have had in years.

  • paulmdoro

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Being tough on America isn’t the same thing and not liking it. You’re assuming things about Obama that you can’t possibly know. We are all speculating.

    But just because someone is tough on it, you can’t automatically assume they don’t like it.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Paul, I didn’t say that. What I said was we are all speculating as to what she really feels.

  • paulmdoro

    I don’t think there is just cause to speculate on whether or not the First Lady loves her country. I think that’s bananas.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Paul, what I originally said, is that my opinion of her (not whether she does or doesn’t love this country) is based on her words. I have formed my opinion on her based on her words and actions. If you choose to ignore those, that of course is your right.

  • Quite the Pundint

    “He [Obama]‘s got a thick skin”? Yeah, right.

  • ImNotBlue

    paulmdoro said:
    Is ignoring it any more foolish than reading too much into it?

    That’s a fair question… and of course, the answer is no. Both are equally foolish.

    However, that statement is troubling and should have led to some serious questions. But, knowing that so many on the left (specifically in the media) were interested in Obama’s election, it wasn’t a priority question… so it was ignored. The fact that it was so ignored leads to undue speculation on it’s significance. The questions should have been asked and answered at that time, but weren’t.

    The Real Royal King said:
    You can be proud and patriotic getting drunk and waving a flag or working for a better America.

    Of course the difference in your story (99% false, but we’ll ignore that for now) and the situation we’re talking about with Mrs. Obama, is that she said “for the first time.” So SHE stated that there was a clear start to her “proud” feelings. With such a declarative statement, there is no denying that prior to that moment, she wasn’t “proud,” at least not in her “adult life.”

  • paulmdoro

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Paul, what I originally said, is that my opinion of her (not whether she does or doesn’t love this country) is based on her words. I have formed my opinion on her based on her words and actions. If you choose to ignore those, that of course is your right.

    I am not ignoring her words and actions. Dislike her all you want. That is your right.

  • paulmdoro

    ImNotBlue said:
    That’s a fair question… and of course, the answer is no. Both are equally foolish.
    However, that statement is troubling and should have led to some serious questions. But, knowing that so many on the left (specifically in the media) were interested in Obama’s election, it wasn’t a priority question… so it was ignored. The fact that it was so ignored leads to undue speculation on it’s significance. The questions should have been asked and answered at that time, but weren’t.

    We remember it differently. I recall that single comment being analyzed to death. I recall reading about it quite often.

  • Calvin

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Paul, what I originally said, is that my opinion of her (not whether she does or doesn’t love this country) is based on her words. I have formed my opinion on her based on her words and actions. If you choose to ignore those, that of course is your right.

    Top 10 Breaches of Protocol By the Obamas

    http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/01/27/top-10-breaches-of-protocol-by-the-obamas-1/

    Michelle Obama: ‘Prepare to earn less’

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/6731/

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2410091/posts

    MICHELLE OBAMA: “Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices; we are going to have to change our conversation; we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history; we’re going to have to move into a different place as a nation.”

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    Change our traditions and change our history. What did she mean by that? I think we are starting to see it.

    Changing history means not just telling the same old tall tales of the free market system and the Founders. No, it’s the history according to progressives. And it’s not merely spinning the old facts; it’s taking current events and molding them to fit the progressive agenda and, in this case, completely ignoring history.

    What else did she say? Change traditions. Here are some facts:

    • 92 percent of Americans believe in God

    . 66 percent say they will celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday honoring the birth of Jesus Christ

    • Only 6 percent don’t celebrate Christmas at all; 3 percent were not sure how to answer

    …It doesn’t match the real values of the country. But removing God does fit the progressive agenda.

    Change history. Change traditions. But you can’t just wipe them out, you need to replace it with something. And we are constantly being force-fed the progressive agenda through intentional propaganda:

    But if you are crossed out, who is being put in?

    They are changing our history, changing our traditions and indoctrinating our children.

  • The Real Royal King

    ImNotBlue said:
    The Real Royal King said:
    You can be proud and patriotic getting drunk and waving a flag or working for a better America.

    Of course the difference in your story (99% false, but we’ll ignore that for now) and the situation we’re talking about with Mrs. Obama, is that she said “for the first time.” So SHE stated that there was a clear start to her “proud” feelings. With such a declarative statement, there is no denying that prior to that moment, she wasn’t “proud,” at least not in her “adult life.”

    Gosh, Philistine, are you saying Mrs. Obama had an epiphany? How dreadful for her. That makes her no better than St. Paul!

  • paulmdoro

    Calvin said:
    Top 10 Breaches of Protocol By the Obamas

    http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/01/27/top-10-breaches-of-protocol-by-the-obamas-1/

    Michelle Obama: ‘Prepare to earn less’

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/6731/

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2410091/posts

    MICHELLE OBAMA: “Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices; we are going to have to change our conversation; we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history; we’re going to have to move into a different place as a nation.”

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    Change our traditions and change our history. What did she mean by that? I think we are starting to see it.

    Changing history means not just telling the same old tall tales of the free market system and the Founders. No, it’s the history according to progressives. And it’s not merely spinning the old facts; it’s taking current events and molding them to fit the progressive agenda and, in this case, completely ignoring history.

    What else did she say? Change traditions. Here are some facts:

    • 92 percent of Americans believe in God

    . 66 percent say they will celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday honoring the birth of Jesus Christ

    • Only 6 percent don’t celebrate Christmas at all; 3 percent were not sure how to answer

    …It doesn’t match the real values of the country. But removing God does fit the progressive agenda.

    Change history. Change traditions. But you can’t just wipe them out, you need to replace it with something. And we are constantly being force-fed the progressive agenda through intentional propaganda:

    But if you are crossed out, who is being put in?

    They are changing our history, changing our traditions and indoctrinating our children.

    She said we’re going to change religious traditions like Christmas and remove God from, well, somewhere?

  • Calvin

    paulmdoro said:
    She said we’re going to change religious traditions like Christmas and remove God from, well, somewhere?

    I don’t know if she wants to, but that’s definitely the goal of many progressives. I know she’s praised Kwanzaa. And her going to Reverend Wright’s church for however many years is disturbing. And Obama’s removed God from the Declaration of Independence before ( “endowed by their creator.”). It’s also interesting that the White House Christmas tree had a Mao ornament one year.

  • paulmdoro

    Calvin said:
    I don’t know if she wants to, but that’s definitely the goal of many progressives. I know she’s praised Kwanzaa. And her going to Reverend Wright’s church for however many years is disturbing. And Obama’s removed God from the Declaration of Independence before ( “endowed by their creator.”). It’s also interesting that the White House Christmas tree had a Mao ornament one year.

    There are a few progressives out there who might want to change Christmas as we know it, but it’s hardly as widespread as you make it out to be. Christmas isn’t going anywhere. You’re being hysterical.

  • ImNotBlue

    paulmdoro said:
    We remember it differently. I recall that single comment being analyzed to death. I recall reading about it quite often.

    In places other than FOX or right-leaning websites? Methinks not.

    The Real Royal King said:
    Gosh, Philistine, are you saying Mrs. Obama had an epiphany? How dreadful for her. That makes her no better than St. Paul!

    First off, I wouldn’t know the difference between St. Paul and the New Orleans Saints… outside of the uniforms. So whatever it is you’re trying to say, you’re barking up the wrong tree… and I’m not impressed with your biblical references (I’ve got Google too).

    Secondly, you were comparing your story to that of Mrs. Obama, which I proved doesn’t match up… and is perhaps why you didn’t address it.

    And thirdly, what does it say that she had an epiphany right after her husband was elected President? And how exactly does that disprove what we’ve been saying… that she (seemed imply)that she wasn’t proud of her country until her husband was elected?

  • paulmdoro

    ImNotBlue said:
    In places other than FOX or right-leaning websites? Methinks not.

    Two-second search and the first result? ABC News.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/michelle-obam-1.html

    Me thinks you are totally wrong.

  • ImNotBlue

    paulmdoro said:
    Two-second search and the first result? ABC News. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/michelle-obam-1.html Me thinks you are totally wrong.

    Really? A four paragraph post on Tapper’s ABC blog… that’s it?

    You’re gonna have to do better than that.

  • Calvin

    paulmdoro said:
    There are a few progressives out there who might want to change Christmas as we know it, but it’s hardly as widespread as you make it out to be. Christmas isn’t going anywhere. You’re being hysterical.

    I never said that it’s going away, but I do think that there is a disturbing trend of young people not believing in God and abandoning religion. If I said that there’s a war on Christmas I’d be acting hysterical. I do think that there are many progressives have an unfavorable view of Christians and Christmas and want Christianity and Christmas to go away. Not all of them, but many of them. Will they succeed? I don’t think so. I think that many progressives favor Islam and atheism over Christianity, which is strange.

  • paulmdoro

    ImNotBlue said:
    Really? A four paragraph post on Tapper’s ABC blog… that’s it?

    You’re gonna have to do better than that.

    You unequivocally stated that it was not covered outside of Fox News and right-leaning sites. I proved that wasn’t true by finding an ABC News story about it. What does the length have to do with it? ABC News covered it. You were wrong. Simple as that.

  • paulmdoro

    Going further into the search results reveals coverage from Newsweek. Boston.com, The New York Times, McClatchy, CBS News, USA Today, and The Los Angeles Times. That’s in the first 3 pages of a google search.

  • dahni

    Obama’s entire political history is replete with his anger towards those who who disagree with his political philosophy. Anyone in opposition is considered by Obama as racist, zombies and enemies. Personally I don’t care what his ethnic mixture is, I am really opposed to his leftist philosophy.

    He also lies. On the O’Reilly interview Obama said he did not believe in redistributing the wealth of the country. But I remember his interaction with Joe the Plumber where he used those exact words. Also his continued reference to the ‘wealthy needing to give back more of their earnings to the middle classes, etc.’

    Those are things I don’t like, and wouldn’t like, even if he had the same ethnic background I have.

  • ImNotBlue

    @ paul

    Alright, yes… the other networks covered it. I don’t think I said they “never” touched it, but if i did, I misspoke.

    It was covered… HOWEVER, it is still my opinion that they didn’t cover it with the same vigor and vitriol that they covered other stories… especially Palin stories. With the internet and alternative news sources, the media can’t effectively bury stories like they once could. They just cover with less interest or persistance. This wasn’t one of the stories they were really into. And that, IMO, is a problem.

  • paulmdoro

    ImNotBlue said:
    @ paul

    Alright, yes… the other networks covered it. I don’t think I said they “never” touched it, but if i did, I misspoke.

    It was covered… HOWEVER, it is still my opinion that they didn’t cover it with the same vigor and vitriol that they covered other stories… especially Palin stories. With the internet and alternative news sources, the media can’t effectively bury stories like they once could. They just cover with less interest or persistance. This wasn’t one of the stories they were really into. And that, IMO, is a problem.

    The search results indicate that it was covered pretty comprehensively. I don’t know what more they could have done to satisfy you or what you deem an appropriate amount of coverage. She did clarify her remark. What more could have been done?

  • Gasket

    Calvin said:
    I never said that it’s going away, but I do think that there is a disturbing trend of young people not believing in God and abandoning religion. If I said that there’s a war on Christmas I’d be acting hysterical. I do think that there are many progressives have an unfavorable view of Christians and Christmas and want Christianity and Christmas to go away. Not all of them, but many of them. Will they succeed? I don’t think so. I think that many progressives favor Islam and atheism over Christianity, which is strange.

    Is this opinion based on fact or conjecture?

  • Gasket

    tatboy said:
    Or automatically calling a white cop& other cops “stupid” (they acted stupidly) when he “in his own words” knew NOTHING about the case or what happened??? Nice.

    The cops were stupid. Maybe when YOU get handcuffed for entering your own house you would think differently about it. Cops are not infallible. Maybe you should you-tube some of the crazy things they do every day violating people’s rights. The President was dead on. It had nothing to do with race. He was defending his good friend.

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I wouldn’t say she’s ugly Rover. The problem is she never smiles. But in her defense, what is there to smile about if you are a hate-filled liberal.

    No. You are the hateful bitch. Your first response in a very non-controversial interview is negativity. You have no class, never will.

    Harry Flashman said:
    Meh.

    I don’t like her husband and the gaggle of leftists he surrounds himself with but I have no real beef (no food pun intended) with her. I don’t trust her, but that’s a different issue.

    The food thing is a minor issue and will go away when she does. And all First Ladies pick siome sort of cause that they champion – for better or worse – while they inhabit the Hill. She’s no different.

    And his kids should be off limits. Period. All politician’s kids should be.

    This post gets a thumbs up because it’s fair.

  • X-3

    Never hate your enemy, it clouds your judgement.

  • X-3

    Michelle is correct though, it is a tough job, too tough for the incumbent.

  • Calvin

    Gasket said:
    Is this opinion based on fact or conjecture?

    Some conjecture, some facts. I’m not talking about progressives like you or Paul, I’m talking about the progressives like Code Pink, who partner with the MB and Hamas. As far as conjecturing goes, I don’t have any montage of the media’s coverage of Christianity vs. their coverage of Islam, but from what I’ve seen, the liberal media generally favors Islam more. e.g., the people saying don’t jump to conclusions about the Fort Hood shooter (and some of those people would later label the Arizona shooter as a result of the Tea Party), or people in the media referring to McVeigh as a Christian when he was an atheist at that time who said “science is my religion.”

  • Calvin

    Another example that comes to mind is the media’s coverage of sexual abuse in the Catholic church vs. their coverage of the Planned Parenthood videos where the “pimps” get advice from PP.

  • JazzyJim

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Did Matt ask her what she thinks of her hubby calling his political opponents enemies?

    It’s the nicest way he could address the moronic right-wing radicals that lack the education to understand the context.

  • JazzyJim

    rover37 said:
    she is so ugly I can barelt watch her talk. We are forcfed how beautiful and fit she is and its so not true. SHe is a shemale, huge forehead, MR ed teeth, and she cant even close her mouth wither her underbite. Her butt his huge and its still debateable she is a man…….. Its frightfull.

    Barbara Bush?

  • JazzyJim

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I wouldn’t say she’s ugly Rover. The problem is she never smiles. But in her defense, what is there to smile about if you are a hate-filled liberal.

    Jesus you people are dumb.

  • JazzyJim

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I should have said she rarely smiles, not never. She is very pretty when she does smile. I stand by the rest of my statement. I do not get the feeling she is a happy person and does seem angry. But I’d probably be to if I listened ot Rev. Wright most of my life.

    Your entire party is OBVIOUSLY unhappy; you ran up the debt of 8 years of Bush policies and mistakes and act like the new guy in did this to us. To be so willfully stupid and have such short memories – I’m amazed that our country has lasted this long – and then I remember that it was the intellect of our forefathers, not the moronic “faith” that got us here and kept us here – until Reagan and Bush 2 – what complete disasters! You’ve been attacking the President and First Lady sense prior to their taking office after the disaster that was the Bush Tyranny (stolen elections, illegal wars, worst economy, devastating deficit, Wall St. Bailout, Mortgage Collapse, Katrina, wire-tapping citizens, torture, et. al.). If you’re hanging your hat on Fox/Hannity’s hate and fear mongering Rev. Wright or Beck’s many conspiracy theories – you should just put one of those many guns you own in your mouth – because you’re Anti-American and one of the dumbest of our citizenship – unfortunately – and by the Koch Industry market posters here – there are a lot of you.

  • JazzyJim

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Here’s something positive. I agree with her about Facebook. My son isn’t on it either, even though he’s asked.

    And Paul, my comment may have been negative, but I fail to see where it’s incorrect. The truth isn’t always sunny. Are you saying that listening to the hate-filled rants of Rev. Wright most of your life wouldn’t influence your outlook?

    What is apparent is that you’re watching Fox all your life has made you very ignorant. I hate to be the bearer of this bad news – but only Fox hypes that BS. Let it go and find something more substantial and real to worry about, for example, why would you support a 1/2 term governor of Alaska, whom has never traveled outside of America until 2009, can’t name a local news paper or education source that would help define her positions (because she can’t) and whom is full of Fox-isms, but not qualified to run a McDonald’s anymore than a country as complex as ours.

  • JazzyJim

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    If my opinion means I’m judgemental, I guess so be it. She has always rubbed me the wrong way. On a personal level, Barack seems like a nice person, though I couldn’t agree with him more on politics, but Michelle doesn’t seem like a friendly, likable person to me. It probably stems from her negative comments about America. I don’t take kindly to that.

    Again, “her negative comments about America”. You say this – and your entire party is saying that our country sux!! Government is in the way (though the Republicans sure don’t mind running it into the ground); The only people that you echo are on Fox – they’re making you a bitter angry person – change the channel – try and enjoy life.

  • JazzyJim

    paulmdoro said:
    I’ve seen my fair share of angry Catholic priests. They can be pretty hateful. It’s not like Rev. Wright is the only angry religious figure out there.

    Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggert, Ted Haggerd, Pat Robertson, most stadium TV Evangelicals – paranoid and breeding hate and fear – keeps them in business with the GOP.

  • JazzyJim

    Calvin said:
    I never said that it’s going away, but I do think that there is a disturbing trend of young people not believing in God and abandoning religion. If I said that there’s a war on Christmas I’d be acting hysterical. I do think that there are many progressives have an unfavorable view of Christians and Christmas and want Christianity and Christmas to go away. Not all of them, but many of them. Will they succeed? I don’t think so. I think that many progressives favor Islam and atheism over Christianity, which is strange.

    Young people not believing in God – is a direct result of the nutz whom have hi-jacked religion as political. There is no spirit in government – and it’s hard to believe the nutjobs voting against their own interests whom are red-herring voters on Pro-Choice and Guns among other idiocies. I don’t want your religion forced on me – That’s not America or American. Just because you were indoctrinated with your “traditional” dogma, doesn’t mean we ALL must be brainwashed into believing the world is flat and that man rode dinosaurs.

  • JazzyJim

    Calvin said:
    Another example that comes to mind is the media’s coverage of sexual abuse in the Catholic church vs. their coverage of the Planned Parenthood videos where the “pimps” get advice from PP.

    Wow; there is just no hope for you.

  • JazzyJim

    dahni said:
    Obama’s entire political history is replete with his anger towards those who who disagree with his political philosophy. Anyone in opposition is considered by Obama as racist, zombies and enemies. Personally I don’t care what his ethnic mixture is, I am really opposed to his leftist philosophy.

    He also lies. On the O’Reilly interview Obama said he did not believe in redistributing the wealth of the country. But I remember his interaction with Joe the Plumber where he used those exact words. Also his continued reference to the ‘wealthy needing to give back more of their earnings to the middle classes, etc.’

    Those are things I don’t like, and wouldn’t like, even if he had the same ethnic background I have.

    You’re brainwashed in steep Fox-ist idiocy. Hannity I think more than the others, though Beck is here as well.

    Instead of hating based on what the propagandists at Fox tell you – go get real truth, not the hate and fear mongering of the RNC/FOX Network of lies and distortion.

  • JazzyJim

    Calvin said:
    I never said that it’s going away, but I do think that there is a disturbing trend of young people not believing in God and abandoning religion. If I said that there’s a war on Christmas I’d be acting hysterical. I do think that there are many progressives have an unfavorable view of Christians and Christmas and want Christianity and Christmas to go away. Not all of them, but many of them. Will they succeed? I don’t think so. I think that many progressives favor Islam and atheism over Christianity, which is strange.

    Our government is not a church. Keep religion out of it. The Paranoid Right-Wing (as broadcast on Fox/Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh, et. al.) wants a religious war and they would take a dumb President that invokes God over an intelligent one that would help save our country. The shooter in AZ – is a product of the hate and fear mongering of Fox and their stooges as well as Hate AM Talk Radio – it just is. There is no truth filter for these programs and if you listen to them, you see where these unstable people get their ideas. The Teabaggers are part of that culture. Paid, bused around and hired to disturb Town Hall meetings by the Koch Bros., Dick Army and Fox (Murdoch) to make political gain by their party over we the people. There isn’t “two” sides to facts – Health Care Insurance companies want to keep the tax payer pipeline to them open and unabated, while denying service to citizens. Plain and simple. Just like the Koch owned Republicans will now go after the EPA, so that they can’t be held responsible for polluting our air, water and lands. The Propaganda outlets and the Corporate money have created this corporate citizen that gets people killed – they invite the unstable into their house (KKK, NRA) and things like Arizona, Tides Foundation and Dr. Tiller have consequences = murder.

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