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MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Takes First Place At 5 P.M. (In Demo) As Fox’s The Five Slips

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Cable news ratings, July 12, 2011:

•The fledgling Fox News show The Five fell into third place among key viewers 25-54 Tuesday–a rarity for any evening program on FNC. The Five had an average audience of 191,000 viewers in the demo, placing it behind timeslot winner Chris Matthews on MSNBC (204,000) and HLN’s Special Report (196,000). CNN’s Situation Room finished fourth, with 175,000 viewers. Among total viewers, The Five finished first in the 5 p.m. hour.

•While Situation Room finished fourth at 5 p.m. among viewers 25-54, it was CNN’s highest-rated hour on the evening, finishing ahead of Anderson Cooper (157,000), Piers Morgan (124,000) and the previously cancelled In the Arena (78,000). Cooper’s flagship hour, AC 360, expands into the 8 p.m. hour, replacing Arena, in August.

Here’s the full scoreboard:

TV NEWS RATINGS: 25-54 DEMOGRAPHIC (L +SD)
Fox News CNN MSNBC CNN Headline News
5 pm The5

191

Blitzer

175

Matthews

204

Special

196

6 pm Baier

283

Blitzer

153

Live

180

Prime

158

7 pm Shep

341

King, USA

98

Matthews

221

Issues

165

8 pm O’Reilly

656

InTheArena

78

O’Donnell

218

Grace

251

9 pm Hannity

524

Morgan

124

Maddow

321

DrDrew

238

10 pm Van Susteren

377

Cooper

157

Schultz

307

Behar

168

11 pm O’Reilly

362

Cooper

163

O’Donnell

247

Showbiz

147

TOTAL DAY 288 144 173 180
PRIME TIME 523 175 276 260
Data by Nielsen Media Research. Live and same day (DVR) data.
TV NEWS RATINGS: TOTAL VIEWERS (L +SD)
Fox News CNN MSNBC CNN Headline News
5 pm The5

1112

Blitzer

657

Matthews

835

Special

604

6 pm Baier

1811

Blitzer

511

Live

644

Prime

572

7 pm Shep

1452

King, USA

439

Matthews

723

Issues

711

8 pm O’Reilly

3056

InTheArena

389

O’Donnell

864

Grace

1004

9 pm Hannity

2081

Morgan

502

Maddow

1125

DrDrew

983

10 pm Van Susteren

1406

Cooper

542

Schultz

980

Behar

754

11 pm O’Reilly

1159

Cooper

475

O’Donnell

691

Showbiz

505

TOTAL DAY 1231 440 547 521
PRIME TIME 2186 478 990 902
Data by Nielsen Media Research. Live and same day (DVR) data

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  • BFD

    In before the teabaggers call Mediaite liars because the headline doesn’t say “in the demo” even though any jackass with half a brain knows we are always talking about the demo here.

  • illusive man

    Since when does the demo have more importance than total viewing audience?
    Last I checked, 1.112.000 is a greater number than 835.000.
    Did I miss a meeting or something?

  • TfT

    watch for a correction/update to the article, without any notification that thetitle or substance of the article has changed.

    I kind of the like the show, although it is all over the place; it is still a far cry better than watching the idiot Chris complain about an American citizenship that was gained legally (he is only pushing illegals to get theirs) and watching Chris complain about an Aussie while his own colleague Martin (a brit) takes a job that should be in the hands of a legit, legal citizen of this country.

    As for Wolf and CNN – sucks to be them.

  • Oenolicious

    illusive man said:
    Since when does the demo have more importance than total viewing audience?
    Last I checked, 1.112.000 is a greater number than 835.000.
    Did I miss a meeting or something?

    No. Actually they got together one night and said, “Let’s mess with everybody’s head and only focus on this demo for no particular reason.” For real.

  • BarneyFranken

    BFD said:
    In before the teabaggers call Mediaite liars because the headline doesn’t say “in the demo” even though any jackass with half a brain knows we are always talking about the demo here.

    This is true- after all, BFD has intimate knowledge about what its like to be a jackass with half a brain and therefore can speak for them with the utmost authority.

  • timzank

    illusive man said:
    Since when does the demo have more importance than total viewing audience?Last I checked, 1.112.000 is a greater number than 835.000.Did I miss a meeting or something?

    They use that numbers because the “theory” is that age group is more valuable to advertisers. Whether it acyually is or not is up for debate,
    http://www.marketingcharts.com/direct/demographics-outside-25-54-yr-olds-hold-potential-18033/

    But mediaite uses the “demo” because they think it makes the disparity in viewers look better…I.E., “well fewer people watch, but hey, they’re really important people”

    It’s basically a crock.

  • JoeRemi

    They use the demo because that is EVERYTHING for keeping a show alive. It’s all advertisers care about. The overall number is worth a shoutout in a promo..that’s about it.

    This is an important issue with FNC because they’re the Harley-Davidson of cable news: Still popular, but the product users are aging, and they’re struggling to grab the next generation. A show that gives Gutfeld and Tantaros shots at hosting duties is clearly an audition for roles in the future geared towards the demo. If they don’t catch on, it’s going to be worrying for FNC.

  • Gefforyk

    Haha I heard that when Matthews got the news the tingles up and down his leg were uncontrolled to the poiint that he had to change his pants several times… So Fox closes down a program that was mopping the floor with him and he falls into first place through no fault of his own.. something to be proud of I guess.

  • http://constitutionallibertarian.co.cc DavidKramer

    WOW, would Mediaite quit LYING in their headlines.

    I was all ready to pat Mathews on the back, with the requisite rubber glove on due to his suffering tingles, but I begin reading and Mathews is at-835 While the 5 is at-1112

    Oh well, give me a holler when SOMEONE on the news channels beats Fox, oh you got that the other day with the Anthony coverage. Okay, Fox missed out on what now 2 shows this whole year not being top?

    You guys are sooooo funny.

  • http://constitutionallibertarian.co.cc DavidKramer

    BFD said:
    In before the teabaggers call Mediaite liars because the headline doesn’t say “in the demo” even though any jackass with half a brain knows we are always talking about the demo here.

    You are a moron. It would be like Fox News after the 2008 election stating that McCain won the Presidential Election, then about a half hour into the show say that he won the 54 and over vote.

    I know, I know, it is that LIBERAL math where you can borrow yourself to prosperity.

    JOE, is that REALLY you?

  • JoeRemi

    You guys are sooooo stupid. Fox rarely loses in the demo. It’s a real story.

  • JoeRemi

    DavidKramer said:
    You are a moron. It would be like Fox News after the 2008 election stating that McCain won the Presidential Election, then about a half hour into the show say that he won the 54 and over vote. I know, I know, it is that LIBERAL math where you can borrow yourself to prosperity. JOE, is that REALLY you?

    Yeah, I’m really Joe. Who are you?

  • Gefforyk

    Hey, since there is really nothing going on with this story, I hate to go so far off script with this buy I do have a question that has been bothering me for a long time… maybe one of our Democrat friends can help me out with this… My question is.. Why would anyone want to belong to a party that has “Super Delegates”… can anyone explain this to me.. seems totally undemocratic to me.

  • BFD

    DavidKramer said:
    then about a half hour into the show say that he won the 54 and over vote.

    Except it’s not a half hour later, is it?
    It’s the next sentence below! lolol
    And then a huge chart!

    Mediaite has been calling wins and losses by the demo since I’ve been here (long time).
    You can either get used to it or keep squealing like a punk-ass bitch.
    Makes no difference to me.

  • JoeRemi

    BFD said:
    Except it’s not a half hour later, is it?It’s the next sentence below! lololAnd then a huge chart! Mediaite has been calling wins and losses by the demo since I’ve been here (long time).You can either get used to it or keep squealing like a punk-ass bitch.Makes no difference to me.

    TVNewser has been doing it forever. It’s the number that matters in the business, so it’s the number that matters in media coverage. You can get every older eye in the country to watch your show, but if those eyes aren’t rushing out to buy Chevys and Big Macs, it doesn’t matter. The demo is where the money is.

  • jacobjakeu

    Well, um, let’s see: We’re going to do a show with all our B people we see on other shows all the time. But this time, the twist is, there’s no real anchor! Just the B people. Well, maybe a few C+ people too.

    And, here’s the really interesting part. They will sit around a very small table! Even if Bob Beckel is at the table, it will still be really small!

    What’s up, Fox News?! You guys know how to produce great shows. You knew Beck was leaving for, like forever.

    What did you do, farm the production out to MSNBC?

    Somebody dropped the ball, big time!!!!!!!!!

    What’s next? The Dick Morris Show?

  • Dummy_Thy Name is Chris Matthews

    BFD said:
    In before the teabaggers call Mediaite liars because the headline doesn’t say “in the demo” even though any jackass with half a brain knows we are always talking about the demo here.

    Of course it’s all about the demo, where in O’Reilly’s REPEAT, shall I say it again, REPEAT, beat all of the first run tripe on MSNBC.

    Only in MSNBC land (where reality is replaced by fantasy) is one night winning a demographic a sign of a national mind-shift towards progressive Marxism. Poor, poor Ed Schultz, Greta beat you. Wonder if she’ll pop someone else’s champagne like you admitted to? Oh wait, she’s got class.

    Loser (and Ugly)_Thy Name is Ed Schultz

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    Congratulations, Chris.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    BFD said:
    Mediaite has been calling wins and losses by the demo since I’ve been here (long time).
    You can either get used to it or keep squealing like a punk-ass bitch.
    Makes no difference to me.

    LOL, we know that you are stupid. That is why you hide behind a phony name.

    Winning the “demo” is ONLY important if you win it ALL the time. Then you have a reason to raise the rate for your ads. If you only win once or twice a year you haven’t accomplished anything.

    Matthews is a loser and he always will be.
    The Five sucks. Fox will never be able to replace Beck. Ann Coulter could do it but she won’t be tied down to a five day a week show.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    JoeRemi said:
    You can get every older eye in the country to watch your show, but if those eyes aren’t rushing out to buy Chevys and Big Macs, it doesn’t matter. The demo is where the money is.

    Who cares where the money is? Fox wins the demo and the money.
    People vote. The more people that watch the more VOTERS you reach. Votes win election not Smart Phone ads.

  • JoeRemi

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Who cares where the money is? Fox wins the demo and the money.People vote. The more people that watch the more VOTERS you reach. Votes win election not Smart Phone ads.

    I’m not sure how many subjects you’re trying to cover, but my point is clear: FNC needs to find younger viewers to keep sticking the demo. You’re right, losing to Chris one day ain’t shyte. It’s just a good place to start a conversation about the future. Bill and Greta aren’t getting any younger; Greg and Andrea are being groomed to move up. That’s what The Five is about. We’ll see..

  • Laddy Go-Rod

    Attn: MEDIAite,

    Looks like you got a photo of Quiff Maffhews (as Bahney Fwank pronounces it) from about 30 years (and 600,000 bottles of J & B) ago.

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  • Arkansas Steve

    “THE FIVE” may not be a successful answer to the hole left by Glenn Beck.
    But anybody who thinks this makes Chris Matthews any more than another MSNBC stooge has a screw loose.
    FOX will get it right. Derek Jeter doesn’t usually hit a home run on his first swing.

  • X-3

    Meanwhile Glenn Beck is asking Fox “Do you miss me yet?”

    tolja.

  • Nacho

    Is Fox’s “The Five” a rip off and copyright infringement of the movie Pulp Fiction’s “Fox Force Five” owned by Miramax and Disney?

  • Nacho

    I have a feeling it will end with the same fate as the fictional show…

  • scristanti

    Here we go again joyella your title misleads everyone, oh come on Matthews the lowest rated show and you say he leads at 5 as if he is leading all shows in total viewers, you must really hate Fox, of course Fox slams Matthews in total viewers and sorry I am over 64 and I watch the commercials and buy the things I see on there so all this viewers in the age group of 25 to whatever is BS, most of them are at work and I like the show at least none of them are kooks and nut cases like Matthews and others over there, write about the dismal ratings msnbc has why don’t you?

  • e83talus

    Wow look a Maddow. She is the highest rated on MSNBC. I like her snarky show!

  • lane

    Solid early numbers for The Five. Small difference in demo numbers versus existing shows, more a reflection of their weak numbers of competitors of course. The show is a summer try-out so it’ll have time to grow and evolve while they determine the long-term plan.

    Funny, if this show premiered on any other cable news network at any time, it’d be a huge success already. It’s brand new, and it nearly beat all competitors in demo. Fox execs must be thrilled.

  • Yukon Jack

    Once again, Mediaite chooses to go the idiot route. ONE time slot in demo. BIG DEAL!!!

  • Yukon Jack

    JoeRemi said:
    TVNewser has been doing it forever. It’s the number that matters in the business, so it’s the number that matters in media coverage. You can get every older eye in the country to watch your show, but if those eyes aren’t rushing out to buy Chevys and Big Macs, it doesn’t matter. The demo is where the money is.

    Except for the fact that the ‘demo’ group sits in their parents’ basement and have no money to buy anything.

  • Yukon Jack

    gordonbloyershow said:
    LOL, we know that you are stupid. That is why you hide behind a phony name.

    Winning the “demo” is ONLY important if you win it ALL the time. Then you have a reason to raise the rate for your ads. If you only win once or twice a year you haven’t accomplished anything.

    Matthews is a loser and he always will be.
    The Five sucks. Fox will never be able to replace Beck. Ann Coulter could do it but she won’t be tied down to a five day a week show.

    Actually, The Five does NOT suck.

    I would prefer to see another liberal, and thereby see more balance. But even as it is, it is far more fair and balanced than any of the shows on CNN, HLN or MSNBC.

  • JoeRemi

    Yukon Jack said:
    Except for the fact that the ‘demo’ group sits in their parents’ basement and have no money to buy anything.

    Were you BORN stupid, or did you hit your head? The demo is 25-54. You may have a few 25-year-olds at home, but most 30-40-50s watching cable news have jobs.

    I like The Five the first two days, but Wed. was kinda dull. You’re right, they need another lib.

  • lane

    Just realized. I’m fairly sure you can’t ‘slip’ in ratings the first week you exist. It’s meant to be a summer run, then figure out what’s the long-term plan….

  • Dem4Ever

    What’s with the dated picture of Chris Mathews? There are plenty of him around from this century.

  • TucsonTerpFan

    Note to Chris Matthews: We’ll meet again at the library to practice saying “Washington” again on Friday!

    Chris, make sure you bring your flash cards and your MSNBC mini tape recorder.

  • X-3

    And Mr. Beck is smiling and saying “Miss me yet?”

    tolja so.

  • Martin G

    Chris Mathews is an idiot. The five has been on what, a couple a few short weeks and it was beating mathews.  The five are still beating him. The idiot liberals say Beck left because of low ratings, he was still blowing everyone out of the water with his “low ratings.” Fox should bring him back to do a couple of shows a week at least.

  • Seay47

    message for chris matthews! who supplies the grease? you or obama?

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