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Newt Gingrich Under Fire At Debate For Supporting ‘Humane’ Immigration Policy

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The last time a Republican candidate called for some illegal immigrants to be forgiven their initial trespass into the country in the interest of humanity, they went from frontrunner to punchline. So it was with some element of audacity that Newt Gingrich, the current frontrunner, took up the mantle that destroyed Rick Perry, coming under fire from Mitt Romney and Rep. Michele Bachmann, who argued Gingrich was giving illegal immigrants an incentive to stay.

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Gingrich elaborated on his immigration policy, noting that he did not believe in full amnesty but in keeping immigrants that were contributing positively to American society, particularly those with math, science and engineering degrees– like Albert Einstein– who were beneficial to the country. He also called for “something like a World War II selective service war that reviews people that are here.” Rep. Bachmann replied that she opposed most legalization, and the DREAM Act on a federal level, and noted comments made by Steve Jobs to President Obama– scientific geniuses were en vogue during this exchange apparently– that he had to move much of Apple’s operation to China because he couldn’t find the engineers to do the work.

Gingrich once again replied that he agreed, but that he would not “break up a family” over immigration. Later in the debate, when attacked by Romney for turning on immigration magnets and supporting policies that “would only encourage more people to do the same thing,” Gingrich doubled down. “I do not believe that the people of the United States are going to take people who have been here a quarter of a century… separate them from their families and expel them, he declared. “I do believe that if you’ve been here recently and have no ties to the us, we should deport you.”

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Gingrich concluded that as Republicans, “the party of the family is not going to destroy the family… let’s be humane in enforcing the law.” How these comments different, other than semantically, from Rick Perry’s “you have no heart” comments is difficult to parse– Perry, for his part, didn’t tempt the crowd with any rhetoric of the sort himself tonight. Gingrich didn’t seem to mind the response to his answers, as he stuck by them in a post debate interview with CNN’s Gloria Borger, who noted that it was a good thing to have a “program for legalization without citizenship for people who have been here a long time,” and added that he could not see a situation where people living long-term in America would be kicked out of their communities and churches without those communities protesting.

Gingrich’s exchanges with Bachmann and Romney below, followed by his post-debate comments:



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  • Anonymous

    “Gingrich once again replied that he agreed, but that he would not “break up a family” over immigration.”

    Yes, because for Newt it’s always about protecting the family. Just ask all his ex-wives.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Well so long Newt if there’s two things right winger’s can’t stand its “humanity” and “tacking to the center.”

    By this time tomorrow you’ll be saying not to quote you directly. 

  • Anonymous

    It begins.

  • Valkyrie101

    Well let’s face it, Newt is more of a regular republican at heart.

  • cdnhawk

    I can see what was going through Romney’s head ” Gingrich is making a lot of sense but I have to challenge him on his position because I am a Republican and we are tough on immigration” …I’m running for office. I can’t have illegals working for me for Pete’s sake!

  • phil white

    Our whole immigration policy is inhumane, if not against the law prohibiting genoicde, our own
    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t vote for him, but that was a reasonable thoughtful point he made.

    Now lefties will laugh at him (He’s fat! He’s divorced!)

    And the crazy people will all call him a RINO.

    Geesh.

  • Anonymous

    I knew Newt would say that considering it’s a point he has raised before in several debates. There was a debate he had with Howard Dean on various subjects early this year ( http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/297784-1 ) and Newt, as bombastic and acerbic as he sometimes is, always offers REALISTIC and practical solutions to solve actual problems. He doesn’t like dealing with the abstract and the untested theoreticals which are usually just platitudes uttered by pandering politicians. This is where he always gets in trouble for “speaking his mind.” Deporting 11 million people is impractical. Just like Perry got into trouble for disabusing the absurdity of building an 1,100 mile fence along the Texan border with Mexico, and it’s purported efficacy in actually containing illegal immigration. 

  • Anonymous

    This is why the teabagger party doesn’t work. Any hint of reasonableness is instantly condemned as liberal.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Gingrich just signed his own death warrant.

    See and right wingers flocking to this thread to defend him?

    …zzz…zzz…ZZZ…

  • Mo Fokker

    Just think of all the Democratic constituents that Newt helped create with his support for Ronald Reagan’s amnesty plan. 

  • Anonymous

    As I said in the other thread, there is nothing Republican about you. Thank goodness that you left the Party. You show such disrespect.

  • Pablo

    Hey, phil. Do you know you’re a psycho? There’s a great movement you ought to check out. I think you’ll like it.

    http://vhemt.org/

  • Mo Fokker

    I did hear him say that the Republican Party is the “party of the family” when justifying his support for allowing long-term illegals to remain in this country.  

  • Anonymous

    Nothing “Republican” about me? By the standards of today’s GOP, you’re right. And I’m quite proud of that fact, WC.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Hey everybody Sarah Palin is here ready to tell other people what they think! Thanks Goodness this shriLl retarded witch isn’t running.

    SMILES!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Baruch-Pelta/52601750 Baruch Pelta

    It’s official; he really doesn’t want to be president.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    His idea of humane is to put the kids under 14 to work as janitors under “Master Janitors” in a 21st century adaptation of indentured servitude.

  • Rufus Danegro

    ZAP!

  • Rufus Danegro

    I have a movement you should check out;go back to haunting your outhouse. At least there the world makes sense to you.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    But it was humane, the EXPRESSION I mean, of humanity – if not actually sincere. And are we really entitled to all the Newt gives and gives and gives, and also sincerity on top of all that? I think not, sir!

    Plus you do have to give Newt this: somebody’s gonna get a hurt bad over this, & it’s going to be Newt. 

    I don’t know if, after you sum over all the half-spins & normalize the chirality, this was calculated [Do I REALLY want this nomination, or should I just hammer down that nightly gig on Fox? Careful what I wish for.], or just one of those inevitable slips along the floor-level wide-beam walk that is Shit Gingrich Says.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Its a sign of just how desperate and pathetic the GOP really is. 

  • Pablo

    Oh. Gingrich would be 10,000X better than Obama. If he gets the nomination, he gets my vote. Yay, Newt!

    I’m a bit disappointed that he didn’t play Moderator Whack-A-Mole tonight, but he had a good debate.

  • Anonymous

    Yes – Thank goodness. It’s because of people like you that groups are pitted against one another. You contribute to that problem. I’m young and I’m happy to welcome the Old Guard of the GOP like you out.

  • Anonymous

    Appropriate SN.

  • Anonymous

    Gingrich made  a mistake by conceding all of the undocumented will stay here.  That’s poor negotiating signals to the opposition.  Even if you do eventually sign a partial amnesty, that should only happen at the end of long negotiations.

    Nobody said anything about deporting 11 million people.  That’s on them to figure out what to do if they cannot find work anymore due to lack of documentation.  Go back the way you came, not so difficult to figure out.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Yeah where’s that defense of his immigration policy?

    Thought so

    And change your avatar ghosty!

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Thanks, that slipped my mind; Newt pre-insures on this stuff. 

    But … wasn’t it more like, The media would be committing a profound act of ex-post facto intellectual dishonesty by quoting my precise words back to me … ?

  • Rufus Danegro

    and that’s why you won’t see a single so called conservative address that fact directly.

    COUNT ON IT!

    LOL

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    what did I say that was false?

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Welcome out-of-town Capetown visitors! 

  • Rufus Danegro

    Don’t sweat WC -Our own sarah palin isn’t her to debate facts with you.

  • Anonymous

    Gingrich is a big time RINO and a squishy false conservative just like the rest of his ideological bedfellows, the neo-cons. He’s a flaming liberal just like Bush and might as well just admit he is and join his DemRat friends. 

    What he should have said was, we send the wetbacks packing back to mexico and build a wall. We need someone who isn’t afraid to stand up and say what’s rightf. It doesn’t matter if you committed the crime last week or 50 years ago. There is no statute of limitations on what’s right and wrong. It always stays the same. Who cares if they come over here and spit out a litter, ship them back.

  • Anonymous

    This debate was very boring. It was actually pretty fair on time allotment to the candidates.

    Who knew that it would take conservative outlets in partnership with CNN the opportunity to make this possible?

  • Rufus Danegro

    Yeah THAT’S what he should have said.

    Like I said-Newt you made many so called conservatives very unhappy tonight!

  • Anonymous

    Your whole comment was false but it’s not worth debating at this hour.

    Just worked out and I’m not in the mood. :)

  • Rufus Danegro

    See What did I tell you? Case closed.

  • Rgallego98

    Sounds like a reasoanble reponse to the problem.

  • Rufus Danegro

    But sarah is in the mood to show up and be an insulting tart! Who didn’t see that coming?

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    debate? direct qoute…

    ”I tried for years to have a very simple model,” he continued. “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they’d have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”

    here is a link with video…

    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/21/news/la-pn-gingrich-child-labor-20111121

    The Gov of Maine wants to roll back child labor laws too.

  • Anonymous

    I honestly don’t see what the big deal with that was. As a first generation immigrant, I can tell you this. Growing up, I went to boarding school. We students were delegated “duties” and chores that were performed every day by school staff ie. teachers and administrators. We had to keep our living quarters clean, we had to keep our classes clean, our clothes clean, our dormitory yards clean etc. Failure to do this resulted in punitive measures. This was our responsibility and we were not paid by the way. I think it shaped me to be a responsible adult, and one who took initiative. I can’t tell you how many Americans I have run across who can not even do their own dishes, do their own laundry or even clean their own bathrooms. Forget the money argument for a second. What Gingrich suggested would instill a sense of discipline, independence and responsibility upon today’s kids. Kids who are pretty much spoiled rotten brats who feel entitled to everything and anything they have not earned. It’s something easy for critics to demagogue, but, tangentially, I think he had a good point. I don’t see the big outcry and I’m not a Republican!

  • Rex the Wonder God

    No, that’s not it; I want him to do well. IDEALLY, I’d like to see Dr. Paul get the nomination – never gonna happen – because the debates with Obama would be fabulous. But Newt’s my second, and more realistic choice, because he embodies the spirit of post-WWII Republicanism AND the spirit of the modern lobbyist-dominated Beltway. He embodies ALL that, plus several elegant high-end dining rooms. 

    And if he were actually to win the general (Ha!), he would definitely be a one term president; he fornicate himself to death before he ever even ventured beyond the White House aides & interns.

    Finally, since his party is dying anyway, better it be a quick death without all that national mourning that’s usual when we lose someone we actually like.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Conservatives are not interested in “reasonable responses”

  • Anonymous
  • Rufus Danegro

    I think V its because he also wants to repeal child labor laws.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    If a discarded can of Red Bull got the nomination, you’d still vote Planet R.

  • Pablo

    He didn’t say all of the undocumented. He said he’d look at it on a case by case basis in which people with long established ties to the community would get documented. But as we learned with Reagan, all of that conversation is moot until we get the border under control.

  • Anonymous

    Ok…then let’s debate Obama thinking there are 57 states. Seriously.

    You have no legs to stand on with this argument. He was making a commonsense approach/suggestion. If you can’t understand the latent meaning of his argument then I can’t help you. It’s a pretty simple argument.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    Note to Newt: They only love you when you’re a crazy racist. Sorry.

  • Rufus Danegro

    ZAP!

  • Pablo

    I don’t find it necessary to defend everything that comes out of Newt’s mouth. He’s not Obama. He doesn’t need the help.

  • Anonymous

    I commend you on this particular post. And congrats on being taught these qualities.

  • us995

    she should tell Obama first then he wouldn’t seem so clueless

  • Rufus Danegro

     JSBH-

    I think its pretty obvious that if WC-sarah palin thinks she can equate the  her favorite Obama gaffe with Newt’s statement’s its clear that she’s even more retarded than we first thought. You cannot have a real debate with such a childish mind. I applaud you for trying but having seen this nonsense day after day it always comes down to nonsense with this moronic nit-wit.

    Cheers. 

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Funny thing: at the outset of the show, Blitz Wolfer [sic] said there’d be “questions from the audience”, which made me think, you know, the Folks, at least BillOld’s version of the Folks. But it turned out that each and every question was from a Heritage Foundation or AEI ‘policy’ head – the two most chilling being Paul Wrong-Always Wolfowitz – a Mittens advisor – and David Addington, the long-time legal Mengele to Dick Cheney. Every single one of the questioners, and I should think all in the audience, were 1%ers. Does that mean the GOP is the party of the 1%ers, or was it just their turn again … like it is most episodes?

  • Anonymous

    Deleted.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Apparently he does.

  • keninkansas

    How bout we just enforce the law, newt?

  • keninkansas

    He was NEVER a Republican, WC.

  • Anonymous

    That would be an issue since it has a potential for being exploitative.  Another good argument against his position would be that those jobs are usually taken by poorly educated folks (low skill workers) and filling that vacuum with kids who are basically dependents (ie. they don’t really have to work) would basically decimate that work force. Good points that can be intellectually discussed instead of the usual partisan gutter-sniping. 

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    That is different. It is no different then growing up on a farm. Now if he said lets start a school program around chores or reform our school system to that of boarding schools (much like in other countries) I would have no problem with that. What he proposed, however, was replacing adult workers with children. Now a big reason why we lost our manufacturing base is that these jobs have been outsourced to poor countries, ones that use slave labor, or ones with out child labor laws. We are seeing (whether intended or not) is a push to have those practices here. The ones that are recorded in early 20th century history. Read the history of the start of the industrial revolution, the history of mining, or hell in Upton Sinclair or Charles Dickens. As much as we are lazy (I don’t disagree with that), think that unions are destructive, or think rolling back child labor laws will instill discipline, they are there for a reason. If they are not there, those things will return.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ

    Newt bein’ a son of the south an’ all that.

  • Anonymous

    What Republican would think it’s ok to call another person the R-term as he did below by liking a post? He complains about folks being rude when he’s rude himself. It’s quite the puzzle box.

  • Anonymous

    well newt, i enjoyed your run. bow down its time for you to step down as the nobody but romney spot.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    “I don’t see the big outcry” – and I believe you;
    “and I’m not a Republican!” – and now I don’t.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    “He’s a flaming liberal just like Bush and might as well just admit he is and join his DemRat friends.”

    Welcome to out-of-town Birchers.

  • ASAP

    Don’t worry teabaggers, Newt probably has already walked back his comments.  He will probably have another video coming out shortly that will explain what he actually meant.  

  • Rufus Danegro

     Could you do us a favor sarah and delete the rest of your posts?

    THANKS!

    ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Then you misinterpreted Newt’s intent. The manufacturing base is gone because of Democratic policies. Simple as that. Sure, it could be labor laws, but I doubt that’s the primary reason.

    Stop union membership, make it more competitive to move businesses to the US, remove regulations (while still being stringent in key regulations) and stop subsidizing ALL companies regardless of the industry that they are in and you would bring manufacturing and other businesses back.

    Some companies will need workers overseas. That’s fine. That’s called working in a global economy. But you won’t get a vibrant economy with an ineffective non-leader like Obama. Simple as that.

  • Rufus Danegro

    YO Rex V is no Republican-she’s one of the god guys!

  • ASAP

    By using the term “wetback”  you prove that you are no Rhino.  You are the real deal teabagger. BTW, how much will it cost to send over 3 million people packing.  And how would you find all of them.  

  • Anonymous

    Why does everyone ignore Huntsman?  He seems sort of nuanced, a Man of the World….  I don’t mind his delivery and he’s quick on his feet.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, that’s the gist of it (nearly, again).   I suspect someone’s been advised to get their likeability quotient up.  It’s all about perception.  Illegals can rest easy, Newt’s from the government and he’s here to help.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Yeah YOU misinterpreted Newt because your baseline assumption weren’t a bunch of GOP talking points. 

  • keninkansas

    Big White Birchers Under Your Bed!!!!!!!!!!!! Ruuuuunnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be interested in seeing your supporting evidence of that assertion. But of course I don’t imagine that evidence is of much interest to you. You sound like someone who puts a lot more stock in truthiness.

  • Laotradingcompany

    I agree with Mr.Newt Gingrich about the illegal aliens.The government will get the money from these people
    by encouraging them to apply for green cards and then apply for citizenship.Most of the candidates did not
    have the right answer.Please listen carefully to his answer.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I may not agree with him on all the issues but at least he’s not a lowlife panderer like the rest. 

  • joe

    like newt did his ex-wife –in a 6 year affair with his current wife????
    can we imagine a dem doing that?
    poor Bill gets a BJ and he still gets pulled into every single conservatives sex scandal–AND THERE ARE A HELL OF A LOT OF THEM…
    so cons hate what dems do–then when they do worse—they say. “well YOU did it” and that is SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT ALRIGHT???
    you silly wabbits~

    still got that gun annie?

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    which democratic policies?  The ones that were started by Nixon and Reagan? There is a reason Nixon went to China.  Lets look at it this way…

    I don’t know what you do for a living, so lets say you are a tool and dye man.  Now you have been doing this for many years and have made a good living.  You are now in your 40′s or 50′s. your kids are in high school or going to college, you are saving for retirement, and only have a year left on your mortgage.  Now the company you work for is now moving to India.  They have workers there, though while not the same quality, but can make more, faster.  The workers make 4x less then you, are children, and are poorly educated.  They also now get a tax break that was lobbied for by the Chamber of Commerce. You now have nothing.  The only jobs available are retail or food service that pay minium wage (which will go away under Newt, so maybe less).  Then you found out that the bank you had a mortgage with basically made a bet that you couldn’t pay it off and now they forclose while cashing in on your misfortune. How would that make you feel? 

    That is what is happening today…

  • joe

    we have a movement…
    it is called..
    TAKING BACK AMERICA FROM THE CRAZY RIGHT WINGERS…
    hey pablo—did you check out the bonds of these small conservative towns???
    combined they may Solyndra look like a bounced check…

    oh ya–check out the big pharma too while you are at it…(lilly corp was testing humans under lil Mitch Daniels)—
    tax payer dollars folks—
    small town America—THE REAL AMERICA IS FUNNELING MILLIONS THROUGH BOGUS LOANS, GRANTS AND FEDERAL FUNDS–INCLUDING SELLING GREEN CARDS…RIGHT BACK INTO POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS..
    tell me Pablo—were YOU serious about really caring about this—or are you just another shill?

  • joe

    conservative mayor in small towns around America are selling green cards—and then funneling the cash back into political coffers..
    the restaurant association and the big business pays conservative congressmen to keep the cheap labor here and then pays big money to blame dems for it…
    IT IS THE ULTIMATE ‘SMELLER IS THE FELLER’ SCAM…
    THEN AZ IS BUILDING PRIVATE PRISONS AND GETTING FEDERAL DOLLARS TO IMPRISON MORE ILLEGALS—while filling political coffers…
    THE SMELLER IS THE FELLER—THE SMELLER IS THE FELLER…
    AND THE FELLER IS THE GOP CONS..

  • ASAP

    Sorry, I was wrong.  12 million people. 

  • keninkansas

    you lie

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    What the hell does that have to do with this? I will not and wont defend any gaffe people make. This however was not a gaffe. This was poor attack on unions by trying to roll back the laws that are in place for very very good reasons.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and fire all the existing janitors.  I’m all for kids cleaning up after themselves and taking responsibility.  I started working young myself, at 14 technically, way earlier if you count the lawncare, and pet babysitting for vacationing neighbors.  Still, fourteen year olds with commercial floor waxers or sweeping floors with naphtha and sawdust seems a bad idea.  Perhaps, doing some of the safer janitorial duties in an assistants capacity would work, but, not completely replacing  janitors per se.

  • Anonymous

    You have to be willing to tie up and set fire to homosexuals if you want to be part of the modern GOP.

  • us995

    how’s Obama’s brother doing in that shed in kenya his drunkin uncle isn’t doing so good in Mass DWI

  • Anonymous

    You make it all seem so simple!  Too simple, to trust.  I was born at night, but not last night.

  • Anonymous

    The guy who wants to waterboard suspects, and kill Middle Eastern scientists in an undeclared war is now “humane”?

  • us995

    if you join Obama’s ocupiers you only have tie up and set fire to jews

  • Anonymous

    Actually, we set fire to rich people. We like the jews, unlike you guys who are just craving the apocalypse and your silly book says that Israel needs to be around for your fantasy to come true.

  • joe

    what does that have to to with the president?
    are you responsible for your entire family?
    oh ya–you are just talking nonsense–sorry..i forgot you guys do not have a real argument..

    ok go back to doing really bad things and then justify it by finding something a ‘liberal’ did ok?
    losers…

  • Anonymous

    It ain’t even my thing, but now I’ll keep seeing that women wringing out that ever so soapy sponge in the hot, dixie sun.  That film had quite a few great moments.  Once seen, you never look at hard-boiled eggs the same way again.

  • joe

    nope–i tell the truth…
    and nobody has prove me wrong yet…
    and if you would like to put up some loot–we can do it..
    or are you one of those cowards who just say stupid crap and cannot back it up?????
    i will put up some loot—will YOU?
    prove me wrong–take my money–please~

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes, I think to understand him, I’d have to be him, and thats way farther than I’m willing to go.

  • Anonymous

    And, I think, he believes in science.  Having evolution helps separate him from the rest.

  • us995

    shows him to be both ignorant and arrogant just like you

  • Jay

    Nope.  He just panders to liberals, instead of conservatives.

  • Ark

    Newt feels so passionate about this issue that he might just forget himself and cheat on his wife.

  • Anonymous

    The more immigrants, the more child labor.

  • Lizton

    The GOP are so bereft of leadership talent that even the vile creepy Newt Gingrich gets a moment in the sun.

  • Anonymous

    I think he’s telling the truth, actually….

  • us995

    this reply is to uncleduke if you like the jews so much whats with these bill aryes flottillas

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    I support open borders, PROVIDED we end welfare and wind down the interventionist foreign policy and end the drug war.  Do that and we can have open borders.  Anyone who comes over has to make it on their own or fail and go back.  All of these “problems” of today are a direct result of not following the constitution.  Illegal immigration is a problem because we have a welfare system.  Terrorism is a problem because we have an interventionist foreign policy.  Our debt’s a problem because we have BOTH!

  • Anonymous

    Newt is in trouble now. He has jumped off the crazy train for a moment and he will pay for his sojourn into reality.  Birtherism, theocracy government, creationism, science denial, and deporting ~11 million people.  Those are the talking points of the enlightened.  Reality is to play no part in the modern day GOP and the base will rise up like warm vomit to strike him down.

  • Anonymous

    Rex, they are not lobbyist, they are historians.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Can we just do the 57 states meme – again? He was on the campaign trail, had been for a year and half steady, and he’d got up to 47 states, and was telling his audience that, and that he had only 3 states to go. Instead of 47, which he meant to say, he said 57, yet nonetheless went on to say, in the same continuous phrase, “only 3 more to go”. So mystery solved – again, for the kajillionth time.

    The cool thing, maybe the COOLEST thing, about the 57 states meme is that there just having been many even tiny subatomic particle openings Obama has left for the wingers to try to exploit. This last week, with the rise and fall of the “lazy” meme & the “Hawaii’s in Asia” meme, shows the nature of the problem he presents to memers – YouTube is his friend, and the Internet his buddy: all you have to do when you hear or read one of these memes is check out the speech and listen, and there’s the perfectly reasonable explanation right in the context. Today’s dishonesty by the Willard “Mittens” Entitled III is very much within the style of these memes – that they’re all like Breitbart poorly re-engineered gaffe INVENTIONS, I guess as some sort of Planet R payback for the younger Bush and his daily Shrub droppings – which no one EVER had to re-engineer because he was so expert at gaffology all on his lonesome. And it’s this STARK CONTRAST between Shrub & Obama, one that exists entirely independently of spinners & memers, which CONTINUES to drive the wingers absolutely bananas – a phenomenon well observed, documented & analysed in the neurological, psychological, sociological & to some extent ever psychiatric literature.  

    I went to all this length here while actually thinking more about how really, REALLY miserable this selection of contestants in the GOP Game Show really is. We have a smart clever devious vulture capitalist serial liar, someone for whom the phrases ‘untrustworthy’ and ‘has character issues’ might as well have been invented, hanging around the coronation trying to figure out a way to outwit these rubes – not just the other contestants, but a big majority of the party. You have a ruthless but spectacularly unintelligent mediocrity of a Southern state governor. You have a 3rd rate failed ‘historian’ who baffegabbed his way into become Speaker of the House and has spent the last decade and more as an unadmitted lobbyist & con artist at large. You have a truly incompetent religious opportunist with zero lasting cred beyond her Congressional District known mostly for saying spectacularly ignorant & bigoted things. You have a failed Senator who can’t get elected again at anything who’s got a bug up his ass about teh gay that causes him to spew religiotic hoo-ha that’s a least a half century out of date. And you have two completely sane pols, an older dude with the advantage of a ton of experience that’s almost enough to overcome his inability to understand the nature of money plus a Southerner’s impaired view of human rights, and a relatively younger dude who’s terrifically accommodating to the point of being downright bland who has a somewhat unpredictable yet nonetheless selective conscience about what things he’s prepared to pander to and lie about and what he’s not. And you have another lobbyist who has never won any election of any kind who’s too lazy to apply his brain to any subject where he thinks a meme may do who’s one truly distinctive accomplishment appears to be that he may well be THE most spectacular hanger-on of modern times.

  • Cain

    To most hardcore Republicans, Immigration is like the war on terror… “You are either with us or against us.” Meaning, You are either for no illegal immigrants or you’re for illegal immigration without penalty. It’s way more complex than that. I applaud Newt and Perry for having the courage to admit it in front of that audience. 

  • RealTea87

    She would rather suck his black cck I heard she luvs that one in her stinky snatch one in her smelly ass! So you FAKE GOPrs keep luvn that ni66er luvn bitch REAL Americans need I leader to put the top ni66er back in his place! Rush is right all ni66ers are getting too uppity!

  • Anonymous

    Newt knows you can’t use humane and republican in the same sentence

  • Anonymous

    So, what Newt is suggesting is to do what Obama is doing?   Makes sense to me, not sure it will make the baggers happy.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe Bachmann does not see the opening they have provided for her.  She needs to stand up and say she plans to build huge ovens in Iowa, round up all the Mexicans, and roast them.  She will immediately jump back into the lead and Romney and Gingrich will have to stop dodging the issue.

  • Anonymous

    Why is this news to anyone? You are not going to deport a family who has been in the US for 25 years. Obviously. Otherwise why not deport everyone whose ancestors came from Europe and Africa. That will empty the country. People are such hypocrites.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    By today’s standards neither Reagan or Goldwater are Republican.  And they’d be quite proud of that fact.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    You’ll have to sharpen your attempts at sarcasm – you sound too much like a real tea partier.  People won’t get it.

  • Anonymous

    LOL…he supports Amnesty.  Let’s see…cap n’ trade, the individual mandate, and whatever else he’s “paid” to support.   Yes, Newt Gingrich…the crowned conservative.

  • Anonymous

    He panders to the intelligent.

  • Steve P.

    So the Media is playing we should dis-reguard someone running over the one issue game huh? This is about the only thing I dis-agree with Newt, but now I’m suppose to drop my liking him because of one issue?

    Hmmm.How many on the left dis-agree with the things Obama is doing? He is a 95% complete failure, the 5% he did right was make OBL fish food.

  • Anonymous

    one issue? lmao!

  • Anonymous

    Thats what the baggers want!

  • Pablo

    I can’t imagine how he thinks he’s fooling anyone on that score. I’m not a big fan of the GOP either, but I can’t imagine them turning me into a full blown dissembling progressive hack.

  • joe

    “shows him to be both ignorant and arrogant just like you”

    see -this is what we have to deal with —this makes no sense…
    they have no argument..
    all the NEW conservatives can do is spend their time attacking liberals for things that conservatives ONE TIME promoted–and then when conservatives get caught doing something wrong—THEY FIND SOMETHING A LIBERAL DID–OR SOMEONE A LIBERAL KNEW DID–(MUCH LESS HEINOUS) AND THEN JUSTIFY THEIR OWN BAD ACTIONS BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY SOMEONE ELSE DID IT FIRST..
    EVERY SEXUAL DEVIANCY CAUGHT BY A CONSERVATIVE IS DIRECTLY FOLLOWED BY bill clinton…
    what ever..you people really need a new whipping boy..
    oh ya–you have nothing..

  • joe

    hey pablo—did you check out the bonds of these small conservative towns???
    combined they may Solyndra look like a bounced check…

    oh ya–check out the big pharma too while you are at it…(lilly corp was testing humans under lil Mitch Daniels)—
    tax payer dollars folks—
    small town America—THE REAL AMERICA IS FUNNELING MILLIONS THROUGH BOGUS LOANS, GRANTS AND FEDERAL FUNDS–INCLUDING SELLING GREEN CARDS…RIGHT BACK INTO POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS..
    tell me Pablo—were YOU serious about really caring about this—or are you just another shill?

  • Sean68

    Um yeah. Because people who have a problem with our country being flooded by millions of unskilled, illiterate third-world peasants with high fertility rates and a proclivity toward gang affiliation are stupid or racist or something. If Gingrich wants to run for President of our dying Republican he should at least practice a little truth in advertising and state what he’s about: Cheap Labor.

  • Anonymous

    …however…the cheap labor needs to be taxed and paying into social security…

    the working class tax base is deteriorating and all the baby boomers will soon be “wanting theirs”…

    white people have quit breeding because children are too expensive with both parents working

    black people over breed and generally do not work OR work a government job, which is a huge drain on the working whites in the private sector

    illegals…is the last source of a WORKING class (many blue collar jobs) that the OCCU-toddlers aren’t willing to take.

    I think Newt sees the bigger picture here..and NOT a political point to attack and bash, as his opponents and the media will do.

  • Gethistoryright

    Making fun of Noot is “disrespect.”  But leaving your wife when she is in the hospital with cancer…going to visit her there with your divorce papers…that’s RESPECT.

    More republicon “fambly values!”

  • Anonymous

    So he doesn’t pander to you. Good to know.

  • Sean68

    My recollection is that Reagan was generall despised by liberals. Was the left unreasonable then? My point is that this is a disingenuous meme.

  • Sean68

    Yeah, but look on the bright side: The smaller the percentage of white people, the larger the number of people dependent on government, and the more Democrats eventually. P.S. Plus, wear are our future gang members going to come from? You don’t think Surenos spontaneously generate themselves do you? At any rate, the future’s so bright you’ll have to wear shades!

  • Sean68

    Americans of all collars are willing to work, just not for the rate corporate America wants to pay. Illegals do jobs Americans aren’t willing to do…for slave wages. That last part always gets left off.

  • Sean68

    Collars? Blue, white? Don’t know where that came from. The word I meant to use was “colors.”

  • TSK

    Newt understands the reality of the situation and is being practical. He has got my money. He has got my vote.

  • Anonymous

    WOW

    If you are so proud of that statement, why not make sure people see it?

    The smaller the percentage of white people, the larger the number of people dependent on government

    Welfare moms and gangmembers
    NICE

  • Anonymous

    I thought “Deleted” was the most intelligent thing she has said.

  • Anonymous

    I was just going to comment on the fact that all of her posts are meant to belittle someone else with her “knowledge”.
    Then I thought, WHY BOTHER.

  • Anonymous

    Reagan Democrat is an American political term used by analysts to denote traditionally Democratic voters, especially white working-class Northerners, who defected from their party to support Republican President Ronald Reagan in both the 1980 and 1984 elections

    Too many drugs makes the past FUZZY.

  • Anonymous

    Righties are such Cry-Babies!

    The Right has already lost this battle years ago.

    1 in 4 children in school in the US is Latino.

    It’s only a matter of time before the Righties strangle themselves by not facing reality!

    HILARIOUS!!!

  • keninkansas

    Why do you hate Americans?

  • Anonymous

    I am so tired of this false MEME that I can puke all over the internet.

    Steve Jobs did not move all these “manufacturing jobs” to ASIA because he could not find Engineers. That is just baloney, and the candidates and reporters that are repeating it ARE JUST PLAIN WRONG.

    ALL ENGINEERING for all APPLE PRODUCTS is done in the USA. Manufacturing is done in ASIA, and a lot of the manufacturing for iPods (and some iPads) is done in Brazil. Why? Because of WAGES! It is a whole lot cheaper to build a product there. It has nothing to do with Engineers or lack thereof. Please do some actual reporting for a change.

  • ganymede

    Newt is one lying, dissembling hound dog, but he may have done the only intelligent, humane act I’ve seen in the entire Republican Presidential Campaign Circus. In their race to the bottom in how they can outpander each other, the Republicans have destroyed their party. What’s even worse is that rightwingers don’t even see what’s wrong in pursuing the most negative, narrow, mean spirited programs. I’m a New Yorker and we love immigrants, because that’s what’s made this city great, the renewing energy of waves of migration. Because our crummy governments have had stupid and confusing immigration regulations, doesn’t justify doing inhumane acts to the semi-legal immigrants currently in limbo. Rightwingers in their quest to deligitimitize government have caused most of our problems from deregulation of the finance industry to acting like Herbert Hoover on the onset of the 1930′s Great Depression, and, of course their bigotry towards Mexicans and others. Newt’s gamble on hoping that some of these ultra reactionary (very stupid) people who dominate the Republican primaries will see the light about immigration might pay off.

  • Jay

    Right. The CBS and NPR producers and editors, and Piers Morgan?

    At least you admit Huntsman is a panderer.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MPPK2CTPRQYEYSXVOFVUJRX3SQ ken

    Telling the truth is disrespectful to liars ? Maybe so, but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be said. Perhaps you don’t see the humor in calling bullshitters on their hypocritical statements. These are exactly the people who deserve our disdain.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MPPK2CTPRQYEYSXVOFVUJRX3SQ ken

    The fact that you are able to characterize all the youth in a country as being “spoiled rotten brats who feel entitled to everything and anything they have not earned” shows you are not a serious thinker. Stereotypes inhibit looking into complexities and seeing individuals on their own merits and faults. Your school taught you sloppy thinking and how to clean up. I didn’t know Wall Mart had boarding schools. As an uninformed follower who thinks that Noot is someone to look up to for values, you are a perfect candidate for the republican party. 

  • Anonymous

    Quite the idiotic response, predictably. I was referring to the present day youth culture…and my point is cogent. Continue living in your bubble of ignorance.

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