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Rachel Maddow: A ‘Rigged Fundraiser Bingo’ Racket Ames Straw Poll Win Means Nothing

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Following cable news this weekend, it is fair to have come out of the Ames Straw Poll experience believing that the media find it highly relevant and predictive to what will happen nationally in the 2012 presidential race. That feeling is not universal, however, as Rachel Maddow proved tonight by dedicating a segment to explaining how the Ames Straw Poll was a “racket” designed to make money that ultimately could have an impact in Democratic primaries, but not Republican ones.

Maddow began by lamenting the exit of former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, and noting with some humor that Pawlenty’s campaign website was still alive and kicking, with no signs pointing to the candidate having dropped out. The incident, she argued, was “sad,” because “whether or not you thought Tim Pawlenty was going to win the presidency, Tim Pawlenty is out of the race for a reason that, statistically, makes no sense.” She compared the straw poll to a game of bingo: “maybe there is some chance, and even a little skill involved, but basically you need a first grader’s understanding of math in order to understand the predictive odds here.” Because candidates can buy ballots and hand them out, money is directly proportional to number of votes.

That, to Maddow, made it a racket, and “the people who are making money off this racket– the Iowa Republican Party– fully admit that it is a racket,” as it was thought of initially as a fundraiser. But whatever the origin of the event, the truth is, according to Nate Silver, the predictive power of the straw poll ends with the Democratic Party: “if you are a Republican,” Maddow asserted, “it really doesn’t matter,” because Iowa Republicans are more radical than the rest of the nation, as opposed to Democrats, who fall more within the average of national Democrats.

The segment via MSNBC below:

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  • Irish189

    whatever else can be said about Maddow she does have a point

    The Straw poll, contrary to the beliefs of some, is not indicitive of who is going to win the nomination much less the general election, in fact, historically, usually the opposite is true

    The winner of the poll gets exposure and more capacity to fundraise but the issue remains the same, which is can you sell yourself to the overall american public

  • Anonymous

    Rachel….  straining for relevance. Nightly. It’s embarrassing.

  • Anonymous

    Finally, I agree with her.

  • Anonymous

    Maddow attacks Tim Pawlenty for not shutting down his campaign web site yet?

    Ah, no issue is too trivial for the queen of gotcha.  But who watches this irrelevant show? 

  • Tedderman

    Rachel Rocks!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FSPIVAFYI672OH5NOKVRTEZA4U MadCharles

    For 18 months this looney crowd wanted a gop candidate. Now the field is starting to unwind a little their still not at peace. Whew !!  I thought my nam ambush confusion was bad the past forty years but these people must be tortured 24/7 in their heads. How can any sane person be so consumed with knuckle head to evil thoughts every day of their lives.

  • Anonymous

    Nothing like kicking a guy when he’s down… smarmy Maddow, no class.

  • david r

    Zzzzzz.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    I’m not a big fan of MSNBC primetime and the above clip is a good example of why. In the segment, Maddow talks down to her audience by telling them stuff that most people who watch primetime news would already know;she simplifies other elements, either because she doesn’t understand or it doesn’t help her story, and she leaves off facts which didn’t support her narrative.

    Without regard to my previous order…

    Just as saying you’re a candidate doesn’t actually put you on many ballots, saying that you’re dropping out also doesn’t carry much weight.

    In fact for the Iowa Republican caucuses, there will be no ballot and each voter is given a blank sheet of paper on which they write down their choice. So all Pawlenty’s statement on “a television program called This Week” means for Iowa is that he’s no longer actively seeking their votes — someone could still write down his name next year — and before a campaign were to pull a website, they’d have to figure out what they’d like it to now say. Perhaps they’ll choose to throw their support to someone else; there will still be bills, if anyone would like to donate and when you’re closing offices and cutting payrolls, updating a website isn’t usually the first thing done.

    As for the factors which led to Pawlenty’s withdrawal, undoubtedly his showing in the straw poll was one, but I’m sure there were other (political and fundraising) considerations which were taken into account. Also, the tweet she quoted was sent within an hour or so after the vote was announced. The media was beginning to speculate that he may have to think about stepping aside and most people read it as a stall, basically indicating that no decision had been made.

    If you’re watching primetime news and opinion programming, if you didn’t know that Ames was a big fundraiser, well you’re pretty much a dunce. Not only is there the obvious question of what happens to all those $30 tickets and booth rental fees from the candidates and the political action groups like One.org and Iowa Wind Energy, but the fundraising aspect has been widely reported by all maner of media outlets.

    In her report, Ms. Maddow makes a big deal out of the fact that perennial Presidential candidate Ron Paul paid $31,000 for his booth location, but she fails to mention that the second biggest spender was Thaddeus McCotter, followed by Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain, who were tied for third. So, apparently booth locations aren’t a huge factor or McCotter and Cain may have done better and that’s not even touching upon the idea that if all the tickets distributed the campaign for the more charismatic Bachmann, who hopes to be Iowa’s second native-born President were cast in her favor, she’s missing like 1100 votes.

    Don’t get me wrong, I think The Rachel Maddow Show is the best thing on MSNBC primetime and hers is one of the few that I’ll occasionally watch, but like everyone else on the two agenda-driven networks, she selectively reports to push an interpretation and in an effort to make the program more accessible, she often dumbs-down the content to the point that it’s insulting to the viewer. The above clip strikes me as a good example of this case.

  • Anonymous

    Is this guy still on tv. Needs a haircut.

  • Sharpo

    and that is probably why stewart has mocked her and others on msnbc in the past. like tonight.

  • Sharpo

    realheadline needs a set of balls.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Iowa, cancel all GOP events. Rachael Maddow has deemed them worthless.
    Every analysis made and every word written was for nothing. Everything we learned about the candidates was of no consequence. The Maddow has spoken.
    This all begs the question: Just who the hell does Rachael Maddow think she is?

  • NeverWrong

    Just like you, Mr. Madcow…you too mean nothing! Have a good evening!

  • Anonymous

    There is not much in life that could mean less than being a tv host on MSNBC.

  • Anonymous

    jinx, u owe me a Pepsi.

  • Anonymous

    …could be, the set I got came out of your mothers mouth.

  • Mike Charles

    There is no such thing as Mr. Madcow.  Stop it, never_correct.

  • Anonymous

    Olberman knew what he was doing when he got Maddow hired on at MSNBC.  He knew she was just as looney-toons as he is and would continue the proud peacock tradition of having people on the air who are full of hot air.  Maddow as a political analyst is about as useful as teats on a boarhog.  I’ll bet Olberman is proud Maddow is continuing his stint.

  • Mike Charles

    I like Tacoma as a city.  I stay at my favorite hotel in Tacoma and watch MSNBC alot on the room’s TV. 

     FOX  News is a click away, though… When I switch over to it , even when I’m in Tacoma, the people sound like brain-dead conservatives.  It’s weird.

  • Anonymous

    >> Felix_W: “Maddow attacks Tim Pawlenty for not shutting down his campaign web site yet?
    Ah, no issue is too trivial for the queen of gotcha.  But who watches this irrelevant show?”

    And yet best of all, while Maddow will spend time on a topic like this — bemoaning Tim Pawlenty and Republican “money rackets” — this is the SAME woman who will conveniently avoid (>cough, cough, bullshit, bullshitcough, cough, bullshit, bullshit<) to give the MAXIMUM amount that can be donated as well.

    Kind of the SAME way that Maddow never addressed the incredibly suspicious FLOOD of internet donations that went to Obama, that likewise — gee, what a shock! — just HAPPENED to come in with NO names attached, yet magically were ALSO for the maximum amount.

    But that's okay — I'm sure none of THOSE were "money rackets" at work.
    Good going, Maddcow!  Keep up that stellar investigative work!!!

  • http://twitter.com/Staciisa_bitch Staci Chase

    Rachel rocks!!! 

  • Bob

    Pity no one told poor T-Paw. He packed up his stuff and went home after this fair sideshow.
    What a loser.

  • Bob

    Please give an example of how she’s looney. Or is that more baseless whining from the GOP? Let me guess – you love Glenn Beck and his Hitler videos?

  • Bob

    Your modern GOP, folks – nothing to offer but lame bigotry.

  • Anonymous

    So–you’re saying the Iowa Caucus is like an MSNBC broadcast then? 

  • Anonymous

    Boy, these gay, know it all, bigots popping up like weeds in the MSM are really getting annoying they’re so gay.

  • expatpatriot

    I realize that people who know what they’re talking about can be aggravating.

    Makes people like yourself, who are unable to make a reliable guess about the difference between shit and shinola, feel all squirmy and out-of-sorts. That feeling passes as long as you stay on your meds.

  • expatpatriot

    I think it’s partly because the stories you cite are mostly bullshit — agreed by campaign professionals to be about as good as you can do when you’re gathering millions of donations via check — and so those stories were nonstories.

    It appears the “who gives a rat’s patoot?” filter was applied to those allegations, and so Maddow didn’t cover them.

    But the fact that the Ames straw poll is a naked fundraiser is *not* known by most people, and so it qualifies as news. Also the fact that, although statistically meaningless, it was the occasion that Pawlenty chose to exit a race he was so obviously losing. That’s news.

    Conspiracy theories, even those SPELLED OUT IN CAPITALS, are not news.

  • expatpatriot

    She thinks she’s a wildly successful political commentator who’s made it to (near) the top of an intensely competitively profession and is accordingly paid megabucks.

    And you?

  • expatpatriot

    Errrr  . . . millions of people?

  • Anonymous

    Uh, not quite.

  • Anonymous

    Big Yawn; wake me up when Maddow has some real news on her show and not all this I hate republicans and republicans are extreme BS.

    So boring.

  • Valkyrie101

    I don’t think you actually watched the clip…

  • Valkyrie101

    Sounds like Mr. Bachmann has an alias. Can we see that that little dance thing you do BMG?

  • Anonymous

    Rachael, please go away and take your snark with you. For a Rhodes Scholar, you really aren’t all that bright.

  • RDD

    Iowa – a presidential trampoline?
    Iowa is a state that has 3 million people, but this small state has a
    lot of influence on who becomes president. Iowans get a firsthand look
    at all the candidates and is one of the first stops for the presidential
    primary. It’s small time politics with big consequences. Kristine
    Frazao is in Iowa to tell us more about the GOP presidential race.

    http://youtu.be/k5blUwTyxyY

  • fanofgrendel

    If I could magically contol TV commercials, the Hoover Dam would fall on Rachael Maddow.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, dear. This man is never happy. I guess she misses Barbey’s flatulence.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, dear. This man is never happy. I guess she misses Barbey’s flatulence.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, dear. This man is never happy. I guess she misses Barbey’s flatulence.

  • http://twitter.com/Good_Lt Good Lt.

    Tonight on MSNBC: ARE REPUBLICANS NAZIS? YES. ARE THEY RACISTS? YES.

    Later: FOX NEWS IS STUPID.

    There. MSNBC’s entire programming day in a nutshell.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t ya just feel her hate?  It just oozes out of every pore on her body.

  • Anonymous

    If you could magically control (with an r) TV commericals, you’d be getting blowjobs from the Life Alert woman.

  • Anonymous

    Pawlenty knows the straw poll was bullshit.  He was looking for an excuse to end his pathetic campaign. The straw poll gave him cover to get out without making a bigger fool of himself.

  • Anonymous

    “Glenn Beck and his Hitler videos”

    Worst porno ever.

  • Anonymous

    You’re wasting your time with this crowd, Magister. They’re too busy crafting “I fucked your mother” insults and dyke jokes to read more than one paragraph.

  • hey_there

     FOX has a go at Obama for celebrating his birthda?

    No issue too trivial for FOX

  • hey_there

    Hi, I am a republican. Sure, you might make an interesting argument, sure you might provide evidence or compelling reason. But I am married to my party, and flinging ad hominem insults at you instead of attacking the issues you’ve raise is what I, as a republican, do best.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn Beck is just as looney as Maddow is.   I gave up watching him months ago when he became a “conspiracy theorist”.  Maddow though seems to be a much better “suckup” than Beck was since she is still employed by a major network, even if it is the media arm of the Democratic party.

  • Anonymous

    The straaw poll shows that if you can deepthroat a corndog teabaggers love you.

  • expatpatriot

    Hundreds of thousands each night quickly adds up to millions — unless you think it’s the same hundreds of thousands every night.

  • expatpatriot

    There’s a virtue in clarity.

  • expatpatriot

    There’s a virtue in clarity.

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