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Retired Police Chief Arrested At OWS Protest Tells Chris Hayes: NYPD Close To Being ‘Wall Street Mercenaries’

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This week was a breaking point for Occupy Wall Street protestors in New York, after Mayor Michael Bloomberg ordered the police to evacuate Zuccotti Park. There were some acts of aggression not covered much by the mainstream media, but on Thursday, there were several minor altercations, including the arrest of Ray Lewis, a former Philadelphia police captain who was arrested on charges of assault while in uniform. Today Lewis appeared on Chris Hayes‘ show to explain the circumstances of his arrest.

Lewis explained that after being retired for eight years, he was inspired by the actions of the protestors and how they were being fueled by social injustice, and he came down to participate in the protests on Monday.

Hayes wanted to know how Lewis felt the NYPD acted and what his personal interactions with them were like because, presumably, they might have treated him differently because he was in uniform. Lewis explained they actually treated him with the same professional conduct that they gave to the rest of the protestors in the area, and also took the opportunity to clarify that his earlier remarks about the NYPD were taken out of context, particularly by one news channel.

“I also want to make clear to everyone in the New York Police Department that my statements video was edited. Okay? And I knew that was going to happen. And one step I could take to try to minimize that from happening was to refuse any interviews with Fox News. And a Fox representative came up to me, I saw the ‘Fox,’ I said, ‘You stay away from me, you’re a big part of the problem.’”

Both Hayes and Lewis agreed that police all over the country have been too aggressive at times, including the incident earlier this week at UC Berkeley. Lewis explained one of the signs he was holding at OWS this week read “NYPD- Don’t Be Wall Street Mercenaries,” which he admitted made it sound like he believed they were already acting that way instead of expressing a worry that is what they would become, and apologized to the officers who misinterpreted it.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CHU2T4PKPJ57D5NJPKPYEXVWIY Frank Rizzo

    If this useful idiot is retired he should not be appearing in uniform; especially if he is attempting to make it appear he represents his prior department or any other with his actions. I hope he gets nailed for something. 

  • Anonymous

    This is the necessary ‘next step’ – the police are very much part of the middle class and we need them to join in.  

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Foxnewschannel. Murdoch. Ailes. Republicans. The GOP. Karl Rove. Tea Party Birchers and Birthers. Winger  talk radio, Limbaugh and that bunch. Bloomberg & Friedman & their oh-so reasonable ‘why can’t we just get along “centrists”, and our mediative centrist president. Tools of the rich elite, the 1% of the 1%, the Koch brothers, the Wall Street mercantilist thieves, the banksters, Big Corp America: thugs & thieves in nice new shiny suits & manicures & tans from visiting their money at their tax havens. They’ve corrupted the checks & balances, they’ve taken over the Republic, and they’ve taken down the democracy.

    When Benjamin Franklin was asked what the participants in the Constitutional Convention had achieved, he said: A republic – if you can keep it. 

    We have not kept it; we have not kept it because the South went with religiosity over enlightenment, with superstition over science, with brass knuckles and armed knuckleheads over knowledge and sense, with the winger tools on this site, like the winger tools throughout the blogosphere, and in most of the popular media, betraying their fellow citizens to enable the oligarchs to get way with buying enough Congressional representatives, more than enough, the overwhelming majority, to impress Congress against the people Congress is supposed to represent according to the Constitution. 

    For those who thought capitalism ‘won’ when the USSR fell in the late 1990s, now you know: Reaganism won, not capitalism. Fakery won. Faux won. Fox won.

    We are now a zombie capitalist fake republic, a banana republic without even bananas, complete with a fake democracy to help provide the illusion of hope for every one of the human beings in its borders who are not so rich they can buy their illusions of liberty.

  • Anonymous

    46 NYPD officers lost their lives on 9-11, and this is the lies that the media throws at the police.  Honestly, the NYPD has done a tremendous, though likely imperfect job keeping the chaos from spinning out of control.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    I saw him on the Ustream live feed a few nights ago, this guy wanted to be arrested so that he could make a statement.  It was comic as many young leftist gathered around him praising him as you would expect one to praise a folk hero.  This guy was there to satisfy his ego, IMO he is probably not finding retirement on his small farm very fulfilling. 

  • Anonymous

    But that is the whole point of the police. They are mercinaries of big interests. Do people really believe they are there to protect Joe public? Pleeease!

  • Anonymous

    “Young leftists” What decade are you living in Russia during the revolution or the 50′s during McCarthyism? What are you fed up about down there in Florida? Is it how you are being left behind as the top 1% makes all the money and you are left without a pot to piss in? You need to wise up and realize that the people you need to be fed-up with are idiots like your Congressman West. It truly amazes me that even in this day and age with the lines being drawn so succinctly idiot conservatives still think that tax breaks for the rich will create jobs, that deregulating banks or other industry will be to the benefit of middle class people. Why are you so stupid? 

  • Anonymous

    This just underscores the arrogance of the typical leftist:  In their minds, their message is so important that it enables them to violate the rights of others. 

    To all the small business men & women (and their employees) who depend on the foot traffic of the people who are either employed by or do business with all those Wall Street corporations, this has been nothing but a big middle finger from the “99%” to them.  The OWS crowd is saying to that sidewalk merchant, or coffee shop owner:  You have a business that you’ve had to borrow to build, work long, arduous hours to maintain and take money out of your own pocket to compensate your employees?  Who care – are message is SO important that we’re going to interrupt the lives of your potential customers, we’re going to spread chaos and mayhem around the area and we’re going to do anything we think we have to, to make sure our message is heard.

    Naturally, this shouldn’t surprise anyone who understand what selfish little pricks these punks are.

    Oh, and Lord forbid these OWSers let grade school kids walk to school without fear of being harassed.  Talk about bullying.

    Fleabaggers are nothing but lazy, slackers who are pissed because the government isn’t stealing more money from  people who earn money and giving it to people who don’t.

    It’s that simple.

  • Liberals_are_losers

    This moron is a racist.  Out of 435 house representatives this racist calls one black person an idiot.  Go back to your KKK meeting.

  • TL

    The point is the protestors should not provoke the cops, nor the cops hurt the protestors. It’s supposed to be non-violent. I see the cops being put in a no-win situation. They should be out there with the 99% Movement, as they are public workers, and unionized too.

  • OSux

    Mediaite should correct their typo.  For whatever reason they wote an unknown person in their headline rather than Richard Maddow who the picture is of.

  • OSux

    Then why don’t you and Big_Fag_Dave pack your bags and get the hell out of here?  You and the rest of you liberals have a deep hatred of America and have no business living here.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmmm….so that’s what a lice-infested rapist looks like.

    I would have expected him to look more rapey.

  • Anonymous

    Great words from another pea brain. You are the racist. You bring up racism when no one else was speaking about racism. Where did I say anything about West’s race? Ignorance and stupidity knows no color. Besides, idiot boy, you can’t even address the comments and respond because what I wrote is true. So if you come back here and want to make a remark about this, first just explain to me how the biggest gap between rich and poor has occurred in the 30 years? Just tell us why this has happened in your myopic opinion.

  • Norbit

    Really, let’s see who America – and EVOLUTION – more resembles:

    GOP                                                           Democrats

    Tea Party                                                        OWS

    No Rapes-Murder-Assault                                 Rapes-Murders-Assault

    Less Government Contol                                   More Government Control

    Self-Sufficient                                                   Government (taxpayer) Dependent

    Employed                                                        Unemployed

    Fix Capitalist System                                       Abolish Capitalist System

    Thinks America Is Good                                   Thinks America Is Evil

    Work Within System For Change*                     Demands Change Through Violence 

    Family Support & Personal Responsibility          Irresponsible (Welfare) Childbearing & “Entitlements”

  • Norbit

    LMAO!

    There’s the problem!

    Democrats view OWS RIOTERS as “Joe Public”!
    LMAO!

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    The magic meme fairy is going to make LSDNBC’s most favorite meme come true with one twirl of his magic baton…..

    Wishing OWS was substantive is one thing, wishing and hoping that the police engage in brutality to give your farce momentum is just sick and left..

     Viva la revolucion fabricados!!!!

  • Big Taters

    Rex, you are a simple minded fool. If you have fooled yourself into believing only one of our political parties is the problem – You, you intellectual light weight – are a big part of the problem.

    FOX=MSNBC

    You simpletons out here always cheering FOX and the right or MSNBC and the left – YOU ARE ALL THE PROBLEM!!!

    It’s the DUELING FOOLS of this country who have bought the lie that we are a nation divided among two ideologies. 

    Dueling Fools!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Just how do you think we fund our deficits?  Which party during the last 3 years have been shown to be a fully controlled subsidiary of the Wall Street Banks?  How is it that the Federal Government acts as if it has no responsibility in fiscal responsibility? Why do fools such as yourself tolerate the president’s call to class warfare?  I am tired of a government that has sells the hopes of the American people for political gain.  I am fed up with an outdated 70,000 + page tax code that is ripe with favor and subsidies that inhibits our countries ability to compete in the world economy. I am fed up with corruption that permeates the federal government. I am fed up with the Democratic party who sees fit to pander to any class by using the promise of directing borrowed federal dollars to their causes.  I am fed up with the federal debt and deficits.  I am fed up with the banks and the casino that is Wall Street, and I am fed up with losers like you who can not see the lies and corruption of your elected officials, who somehow think that the corruption we see in DC is the fault of corporate America, and not the fault of your lying elected officials who have a sworn oath to the constitution.  You fully excuse the lies of your politicians and vote for them anyway, yeah that is going to bring change..  just let them talk you into your boggyman syndrome, it is the fault of the filthy rich and the Koches, as they line their pockets with the money from lobbyists and special interests..  These are just a few things that I am fed up about, how about yourself, you’re upset because someone makes more money than you do? Do you really believe that our problems are caused by not taxing the wealthy enough?  Get a clue, if you confiscated all the wealth of the billionaires in this country it would not even cover one year of our federal deficit.

  • Texan

    tool

  • Texan

    bigot

  • Norbit

    LOL!

    LOL!

    And the Left - with indoctrination over cognition!

    btw, there’s a gaggle of (1%’ers!) NBA stars holding a basketball fund-raiser for Obama!

    Broadcast this to everyone you know…BOYCOTT (if they ever return, lol!) the NBA! 
    They obviously are no friends of tax-paying Americans!
    (heh-heh-heh)

  • OSux

    I will do just that after you telll me why you have a failed and worthless life and are jealous of the success of other people.

  • OSux

    Big_Fag_Dave is a supporter of 9/11 terrorists and cop killers.  He wrote earlier that he wished that more cops and firefighters were killed on 9/11.

  • Anonymous

    You miss the point. The police are there to defend rich guys, when push comes to shove. Unless you think they exist to protect you. Obviously OWS are part of the public.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Ben Franklin said a lot of things…..  

    “When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

    -Benjamin Franklin

  • http://gawker.com/5482474/the-mysterious-case-of-toure-praising-raped-slaves-for-seducing-massa Touré’s insane mf cousin Phd

    And when the second moon eclipses the third sun, Zarnon with be in harmonic convergence and victory will be ours!

  • Rex the Wonder God

    What a complete tool and willing slave to the oligarchs you are – assuming you are real and not just another one of these Mediaite zombie winger tools. This is a civil servant who has spent his career in public service and you, you low-life winger tool, you come along to snark at him with your disgusting presumptuousness, with your willingness to rent yourself out and sell out the rest of us to the feudal owners of this banana republic. You’re just a mean little coward of a tool.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Another winger avatar “voice” heard from, as if there is actually some consensus view building here. FiF is a well-known winger tool here, though, so forget it: we’re on to you, Fauxfan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KAYXFXXI7EIXXEWSWTM2Q2W7TI Bill

    Everyone should just stay peaceful, and I hope the licensed hot dog vendors get rich off the crowd.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    This is like someone barfed up a word salad and then made a meal out of it. From the name to the memes, this is such an obvious zombie tool.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    There you are – finally issuing a challenge the twerp can’t handle. Now let’s watch what the zombie does with this … it’s like watching those toy robots barge into chair legs.

  • http://gawker.com/5482474/the-mysterious-case-of-toure-praising-raped-slaves-for-seducing-massa Touré’s insane mf cousin Phd

    “Up” is a good name for a show that leaves you nauseous and on the verge of throwing “up” every time the host opens his mouth.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    The younger Bush took a SURPLUS and brought about two enduring wars, a budget-screwing prescription drug give-away to Big Pharma, the bullet to the brain of the Republic in the form of the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich, larded up the budget with almost a trillion dollars worth of crap, then leaves town and the mess to someone else to clean up, and YOU propose that Obama and the Ds are to blame.

    What a tool you are.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    I don’t know when they will, but they will. Right now they are playing the part of the Pinkertons in a rerun of the labor-oligarch battles of the 1930s. That can go on for a while, then either it stops and the police realize they are just as vulnerable and harmed as any worker, or they go on to act as palace guards for the oligarchs. It isn’t clear now where they will go, but many cops are so dumb and ignorant and politicized and natural bullies to start with, I really am not optimistic about them not just continuing to be security guards for the established rich.

    The key here is that cops are really working middle class and live in homes in communities, and a lot of them have friends and neighbors. So, there are bound to be divisions in the ranks of cops. How those divisions break down … to early to tell. But they are in the end every bit as vulnerable as the rest of us are.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Well, exactly, insane ranting guy on the street corner.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    What a stupid stupid answer, one designed decades ago and played on by the commie baiters and then the McCarthyites and now you zombie winger tools.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    That’s a prime example of false equivalency there from the zombie food source Big Taters, folks.

  • Concerned Citizen

    Big Friggin Douche at it again. 

  • Rex the Wonder God

    “btw, there’s a gaggle of (1%’ers!) NBA stars holding a basketball fund-raiser for Obama!”
    Meaning, uh … what, Nobits? Hypocrisy?

    This is soooo stupid. In the 1930s and 1940s the rich elites of that day, again as for decades and decades before using the consistently willing tools the Republican party, kept calling FDR a “traitor to his class”. That meant, according to the GOP of that day, a way to bring in the words “traitor” and “class”, because ignorant blind zombie moron willing twits like Nobits here would be happy to overlook that the right was just INSANE with anger at FDR for bringing about, supporting and pushing for programs and policies that benefited the poor and working classes. So the idea here, from Nobits the old white lawn guy, is that these NBA performers are “traitors” to their, uh, I guess wallets or something in working to raise campaign funds to re-elect President Obama.

    Then Nobits comes up with his genius – genius I tells ya – meme about boycotting an entertainment business that is ALREADY LOCKED OUT BY THE OWNERS. 

    Hey, go ahead and boycott the owners’ picket line, Nobits. 

    If the NBA died, then a new model would rise up and take over the supposed entertainment void – a player-driven model, I would hope. But, it takes time to do that, and a year worth of lock-out isn’t necessarily enough.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    A pure zombie winger like. It’s been around for a long long time, this fake quote, and it always come from wingers and it is NEVER sourced and never HAS been sourced to anything Franklin wrote or any historian has ever found someone hearing.

    It. did. not. happen.

    This is what you’re up against folks: this anonymous avatar with his stupid avatar name, posting lies. For all you know he or she or it is posting out of a Bircher office or a GOP-subsidized operation.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t talk to me about people making more money than myself. I can buy and sell chumps like you all day long. I am part of the 1%. The things you hate all stem from conservatives. Koch Brothers = Republicans. Deficit = Bush’s war and tax cuts. Wall St. = Republicans. You are just a confused old man who doesn’t know shit about the government and society you live in. You probably are a Wal-Mart Republican. Who did the TARP? Bush did. Man baseless opinions and not knowing how things work is what has got us in this mess i.e. morons like you voting real morons into office.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Lies. And you get away with them so often. Not this time, zombie winger meme producer. There are lies. If he actually wrote such earlier, you would link to it, and you do not.

    Also, why is it so MANY of these zombie winger meme posts looks so SIMILAR in syntax? Like they are repeated off a template or produced by a machine.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Go lie down, Nobit, or we’ll have to drive you back to the Home.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    But not nearly so simple as you and your silly manufactured memes. 

    All life on this planet is produced on very complex scales, so for you to say that such a complex organism as humans, the current top predator among big mammals, is subject to your “simple” take is just insulting to any actual human. But then your avatar’s name suggests you are not real anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Spoken like the true Red Neck, White Trash, Neo-nazi that you are. By the way…  in an earlier post you wrote “I will do just that after you tell me why you have a failed and
    worthless life and are jealous of the success of other people.” Any time you want to compare tax returns let me know. I can buy and sell pieces of crap like you all day long. You are clueless. So go back to your couch and watch football and stop trying to be a “big boy” and talk politics when you are clueless.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    You have to refine your model, here zombie meisters: this one keeps going into homophobic default, leaving a big mess of poo all over the place. Back to the shop.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Cross wire Nobits, cross wire – call the fire department, Nobits!

    If you’re an “evolutionist”, then you understand the Darwinian-described process of evolution by natural selection over long time periods. Nothing on your list qualifies. 

  • Anonymous

    Tater, you are close to the problem but you really haven’t hit the nail on the head. What the problem in this country is and the great divide is caused by the very large gap between the educated and the uneducated. Fox News is for the uneducated. MSNBC is for the educated. FOX news panders to people who are of the lowest common denominator. Who would watch a channel or support Rupert Murdoch in any way shape or form? Roger Ailes is a Republican operative from the Nixon administration. He made this network to be a sham and mouth piece for conservatives i.e. the uneducated crowd. Republicans want to cut education budgets all over the country. Why? So they can keep the people stupid. When they are stupid they take the pablum spewed over at FOX as facts. MSNBC is not biased. They just tell you the truth. Bigots and imbeciles don’t like hearing the truth because it is not what they think the world is about.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    This dance of the meme faeries brought to you by Ralph’s Rest Home For Broken Down Rightwingers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    So what is your point Rex, Bush was socially and fiscally progressive, I will concede that point to you..  Just what bearing does that have on the current policies of the Obama administration and the path we should take for the future of this country.  I am not defending any of what Bush did.  Nor do I think that we can solve our deficit problems without both addressing revenues and spending.  You are the tool Rex, you offer no solutions to the underlying problems our economy faces, your answer is to simply raise taxes, how does that bring jobs to America, why would you want to simply adjust the rates of such a corrupted system anyway, and just how much do you want to raise the taxes Rex, California is nearing bankruptcy, let’s see that bill will come in at about 170 billion for that one state, and they are just one in a long list of states.  So do you propose that we just tax our way out of this mess on top of trying to fix the federal deficit?  How Rex are you going to re-employ America Rex, how do you propose to get companies to invest and manufacture in America?,  do you really believe that the “Green Economy” can rebuild this economy?  Do you think that we can continue to have some of the highest corporate taxes in the world, the highest priced labor force in the world, and import the as much energy as we do and build a better tomorrow in the next ten years?  What are the democratic answers Rex, what are you fighting for.  All I see coming from you is your telling people like me what tools we are while you offer nothing but a blind allegiance to president Obama and the democratic party.  What real workable solutions has Obama proposed?  You are laughable Rex, when the federal government will borrow some 1.3 trillion dollars this year and they can’t even figure out a way to cut 120 billion from that budget, just how much future do you think we have left, our deficit just surpassed 15 trillion dollars, you complain about Bush’s deficits and irresponsible spending, the budgets have risen some 700 billion dollars each year under Obama, not a dime of which has been paid for, where is your outcry about that?

    Come on Rex, give me some answers make me a convert….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Rex, You’re a freakin idiot, 

  • Anonymous

    Just how do you think we fund our deficits? WITH TAXES. WHICH NEED TO BE RAISED ON THE RICH.  Which party during the last
    3 years have been shown to be a fully controlled subsidiary of the Wall
    Street Banks? OBVIOUSLY JOHN BOEHNER AND MITCH MCCONNEL’S REPUBLICAN PARTY.  How is it that the Federal Government acts as if it has
    no responsibility in fiscal responsibility? THE IRRISPONSIBLE PEOPLE ARE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR STARTING WARS WE CANT AFFORD AND GIVING TAX BREAKS TO THE RICH.  Why do fools such as
    yourself tolerate the president’s call to class warfare? IDIOT BOY, THE WAR STARTED 30 YEARS AGO AND THE RICH HAVE WON.  I am tired of a
    government that has sells the hopes of the American people for
    political gain. I HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY HERE.  I am fed up with an outdated 70,000 + page tax code
    that is ripe with favor and subsidies that inhibits our countries
    ability to compete in the world economy. I AM SURE YOU ARE DEALING WITH THIS ON A DAILY BASIS.  I am fed up with corruption
    that permeates the federal government. LET’S SEE JACK ABRAMHOFF WAS A CRONIE OF THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT I am fed up with the Democratic
    party who sees fit to pander to any class by using the promise of
    directing borrowed federal dollars to their causes. LETS SEE YOU MEAN LIKE FARM SUBSIDIES? I am fed up with
    the federal debt and deficits. YES PLEASE EXPAND ON HOW THIS EFFECTS YOUR DAY-TO-DAY LIFE?  I am fed up with the banks and the
    casino that is Wall Street, (WELL THE REPUBLICANS ARE BLOCKING ARE THE PARTS OF THE LATEST REGULATIONS WE TRIED TO PUT THROUGH. GO TALK TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE.) and I am fed up with losers like you who can
    not see the lies and corruption of your elected officials, who somehow
    think that the corruption we see in DC is the fault of corporate
    America, (MAN YOU ARE CLUELESS. IT IS THE FAULT OF CORPORATE AMERICA. BIG BUSINESS IS BAD BUSINESS. THISNK OF ALL THE ENTREPRENEURS WHO HAVE BEEN PUT OUT OF BUSINESS BY WAL-MART – JUST ONE EXAMPLE THRE ARE COUNTLESS MORE.  and not the fault of your lying elected officials who have a
    sworn oath to the constitution. You fully excuse the lies of your
    politicians and vote for them anyway, yeah that is going to bring
    change. YOU JUST HAD 8 YEARS OF BUSH AND YOU WANTED MORE OF THE SAME? HOW STUPID ARE  YOU?  just let them talk you into your boggyman syndrome, it is the
    fault of the filthy rich and the Koches, as they line their pockets with
    the money from lobbyists and special interests.. IT IS THE KOCHES (PRONOUNCED COCKS) These are just a few
    things that I am fed up about, how about yourself, you’re upset because
    someone makes more money than you do? IT DOESN’T UPSET ME THAT SOMEONE MAKES MORE MONEY THAN I. I JUST KNOW YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM. Do you really believe that our
    problems are caused by not taxing the wealthy enough? YES, ABSOLUTELY. THE DEFICIT IS A CASH FLOW PROBLEM. NOT ENOUGH CASH IS GETTING TO WASHING FROM THE RICH. Get a clue, I HAVE ONE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. if
    you confiscated all the wealth of the billionaires in this country it
    would not even cover one year of our federal deficit. AGAIN YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG. I GLAD YOU GAVE ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO STRAIGHTEN YOUR ASS OUT.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll admit I’m not as good as I once was, but when I see a turd and somebody tells me it’s a candy bar (OWS) I can steer clear of it.

    It’s pretty much reverse, unprincipled, uninformed, undisciplined Tienanmen square.  Rallying for Statism!!!  

    Lets just incarcerate and starve ourselves and save the beloved state the time and energy of marginalizing and exploiting us.

  • Lulu

    The police are wall street mercenaries, and the POTUS doesn’t act, but remains silent. Instead he’s raking in the wall street campaign contributions from people like Corzine? Could MSNBC and the other embarrassed Obamanoids please, finally connect the dots!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Well Rex, I pulled that quote from a page posted at George Mason University, where does your information come from that refutes that quote?  You are hardly a credible source to claim that those are not Franklin’s words.  

    http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/quotes/govt.html

  • Anonymous

    No, with the OWS, the NYPD is more like garbage collectors!

  • Anonymous

    Was he a captain or a chief? They’re different ranks aren’t they?

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you, Florida-& I just heard the Dems rejected the proposal by the Repubs to do away with the tax loopholes as a “revenue” bill.  But nope, the Dems are adamant about increasing taxes. They’re so obsessed with CLASS warfare games & use their puppets.  So..hear this libbies, it’s the DEMOCRATS who rejected the bill that would stop the kind of loopholes that GE was able to profit in the billions yet pay NO $ in taxes last year.  You know….Obama’s job-pal….Immelt.. the one who closed down 10,000 jobs here & sent them overseas?  How can democrats keep letting this go on? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    I just love it when people talk about their wealth on the internet…. it kinda helps me to understand just what kind of fool I have come across. Hey, does that stuff would on dating sites…LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    I have no problem with revamping the tax code, you my friend are the idiot, and you can’t just tax the rich, it will not work.  You have to have a combination of both cut and revenue enhancements, the federal government can’t even find a way to reduce its projected increases in spending no less do anything important in reducing the deficit.  The fact is that the Baseline for the federal budget calls for an 8% annual increase and the so called super committee can’t even reduce that down to 6%.  Conservatives hardly see giving the federal government more money before it shows any modicum of fiscal restraint as being the answer…  You can call for all the taxes you want on the rich, but it is just not going to happen before the government does some real and verifiable cutting of their budgets, You hardly impress me as being part of the !% but nice try anyway.  Our tax code does not serve us well, it is full of subsidies and loopholes that are cut out for favor or are trying to move the market place somewhere where its natural forces do not want it to go, in either case it is time to get rid of it all and replace it with a more transparent and flatter system that will bring expand the tax base and allow this economy to grow.. and yes, that means more tax payers.. get over it..  already 47% of this population pays no federal income tax it is time that everyone pays something, the country needs their help.  

    As far as the koches..  I am for getting rid of all establishment politicians both republicans and democrats, it is cute that you think that your side is so pure…again that is laughable, I don’t remember the Koches swearing an oath to the constitution, but I am pretty sure that your congressmen and senators did..  If you can prove the Koches corruption of our government, then good let’s throw them into jail, I’m all for it.  As far as the billionaires go maybe you have a point, the combined wealth of all the billionaires in this country is just over 1.5 trillion dollars so if you act fast and take it now it just may cover a years worth of deficit spending.  

    Dodd/Frank..  it remains to be seen as that piece of legislation was some 2400 pages that we will not fully understand for some months to come as the regulators role it out and set parameters around it.  

    It amazes me how angry you liberals are, and how you focus your anger anywhere other than where it belongs.  I may not like the Koches, I may not like Wall Street or the Banks, but I know that it is the government that has set the table that has resulted in the problems that we face and I know that if I expect anything to change that it is the government that I will have to focus on to see that change occur..

    I am sure that you can also ask for the rich to pay for the public pension collapse that is just around the corner as well as the student loan defaults that are also coming.  Also I am interested in your suggestions on how we stimulate this economy, what do you think we can do to promote growth back here at home…  more taxes…  maybe some more government spending….   do you think that will work?

  • Anonymous

    You are a homophobic jerk.

  • Anonymous

    I am sure u would have said the same thing if he was protesting Obamacare. Bravo! 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    And I am sure that you did not get paid for that public service and of course you did not retire with a handsome pension did you Rex?  Give it a rest Rex, it is nice that you wanted to serve your community but please don’t act as if it were some sort of sacrifice for you to do so…  you are probably doing much better than most of your peers who worked the same amount of time and just as hard in the private sector.

  • Anonymous

    Tea baggers self sufficient ?

    Tell that to all the people who came out for bagger rallies, retired on SSI, Medicare, the Vets on pensions, and the tea bag heroes like Rick perry and Bachman. They have been on government checks most of their adult lives.

  • ganymede

    Thanks you Chris Hayes and Josh Feldman for setting up one of the more intelligent exchanges on Mediaite in a long time. Criticism  of Ray Lewis is besides the point. He’s just one decent senior cop who upon retirement started taking a good look at what’s going on. Although it won’t help his precious legacy, Bloomberg really did OWS and all of us a big favor by closing down the physical Zucotti Park site, although I was down there earlier just a few hours ago and there were well over 500 people engaged in serious discussion, music and pleasant ‘vibes’. The important thing is that OWS has planted a seed that’s going to blossom and flower over the next 12 months to the election and beyond. It’s a compelling message that things have gone wrong in our wonderful country and if there isn’t a correction  we are going to descend to chaos. The basic thing the rightwingers can’t get into their heads is that when you have such extreme wealth inequality democracy breaks down. The remedies are obvious and it would be great if the rightwingers would get with the program and stop cherrypicking their hand fed lines from Fox, Norquist, Demint, O’Connell, the Koch Bros, etc, and start thinking for themselves.

  • Jmjsbailey

    No wonder we can’t solve our problems. Just read this page of opposing diatribes and vitriol. The government reflects what is going on here. No compromise, no understanding. Everyone thinks they’re so damned smart and their own party has all the answers. I thik the problems are big enough that we should start listening to each other and working together. 

  • Pablo

    Here’s one of the reasons: http://tinyurl.com/7cos7zx

    That’s a recipe for poverty and we’re cooking up a ton of it.

    Why don’t you explain to me why you care how much rich people make?

  • Pablo

    I’m sure you’ll do better next time.

  • Ricci Dats Me

    Strange thing to ask. WHERE did you mind go that you could ask a question so essentially irrelevant. YOU MUST BE ONE OF THOSE CAIN DANCERS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7fJ6jAOVU&feature=related  DO IT!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    This title for this piece is not titled correctly.  I’m sure this was done quite on purpose to offer the reader additional misleading facts about these idiots of the OWS.  This bullshit artist was NOT a chief, merely a captain on a force of over 6,600 officers.  I’m sure he was at one time one of the union stewarts for the very strong union that represents the department as well.

  • Pablo

    You don’t TAKE a surplus and do anything with it. What you do is pass your own damn budget…unless you’re a Democrat, seeing as how we haven’t had one for 3 years now. Obama’s deficits triple Bush’s worst year, and there is no end in sight to them. Obama’s spending substantially outpaces Bush’s every year. You can ignore those simple facts all you like but they’re not going away.

  • Pablo

    Who did the TARP? Bush did.

    Bush did half of it. Obama did the other half. House Republicans voted against it. Democrats voted for it. Obama voted for it. Who did the stimulus and what did it stimulate? Who did the auto bailouts?

    Yes, baseless opinions and not knowing how things work is what has got us in this mess. Thanks a lot Mr. 1%.

  • Pablo

    U mad bro?

    Just how do you think we fund our deficits? WITH TAXES.

    Then why do we keep raising the debt ceiling?

  • Pablo

    Don’t forget the Illuminati and the Bilderbergers and the Zionist World Government.

  • Pablo

    I hear Moscow’s nice this time of year.

  • Ricci Dats Me

    No one listens to stupid. Sorry. But the current NEW GOP has provided us with a few years of IDIOTS interested in positions of leadership. WITH THAT SAID, you get??? CAIN DANCE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7fJ6jAOVU&feature=related 

  • Pablo

    MSLSD is for suckers. Al Frigging Sharpton and Ed Schulz? Come on, now.

    The problem is here. That’s where the power that’s screwing America up is. Until you figure that out, you’re pissing in the wind.

  • Anonymous

    Rex is a windbag that fancies himself educated. 

    You are making him look silly Florida, and that reduces Rex, and people like him, to insults as he cannot deal with the truth of your arguments. 

  • Ricci Dats Me

    AND in the strange world of the NEW GOP, the difference between Chief and Captain when it comes to the actual story is important why?
    CAIN DANCE!!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7fJ6jAOVU&feature=related

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Wow! What an idiot Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, uneducated vs educated, Blah, Blah, Blah…Hey Mr. Harvard, which news station do you think that the Tea Party types listen to?  

    “Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower socioeconomic class, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.”

    You are a troll spewing nothing of substance but plenty of unsubstantiated garbage. Looks like it is the less educated, dumbass urban ghetto freeloadin hand out seeking misfits such as yourself who watch MSNBC.

  • Anonymous

    A clue for you:  If you pay into something your whole life (SSI, Medicare) or work for it (Vets pensions) it isn’t really a handout. 

    To say those things are broken and need to be repaired, does not disallow you to take advantage of something you have earned.

  • Anonymous

    I am just so happy we have American patriots whom stand up to the facist without fear.

    I am also very gald the Tea party has Faux News to support their purse swinging pacifist ways , a place to vent as they hide under their beds . 

    The Tea Party have proven they are clearly weak and afraid to stand up for our liberties, We would be bowing to the queen if the Tea party had their limp wristed ways.

    Long live America

  • Anonymous

    Could someone tell me why this creepy little thug who closely resembles Ralph Maddow (have they ever been seen together in the same room? I would lay good money that they are the same person) had some “scoop” today about the GOP “caving in” to the OWS morons. What was his “scoop”? Some liberal think tank is going to put out a four-page memo on Thanksgiving (when no one will read it) that “predicts” that the OWS will “continue to grow.”

    Memo to the Left: The OWS Imbecility is OVER. It is deader than Joe Biden’s hair plugs. It is as dead as the modern liberal movement can be.

    Except that the dimwits on the Left continue to “believe” in its viability. Poor them. They are in for a real surprise next year.

  • proud2teabagu

    Haha idiot

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    And in the very strange old world of liberalism where tack hammers are used to knock sense into people, I’ll try to explain.

    Let’s start with Captain – a Captain is a manager, nothing more.  Words and actions do NOT represent the department as a whole.  While slightly higher than a peon, a Captain is not much above the rank and file of the department.

    Now Chief – The Chief is the CEO of a police department, responsible to the city manger or city council for the efficient operation of the WHOLE department.  His words and actions mean things.

    The lousy title to this piece allures the reader into believing that this ONE cop, a CHIEF NO LESS (well not really), should give these idiots much, much more legitimacy than they ever deserved. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Worry not Doherty86 – this Ricci moron evidently has little patience for someone demanding to know the truth.

  • proud2teabagu

    You are stupid beyond belief. I would love to snatch your ass up and give you to the people you just insulted you little weasel.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Maybe he isn’t into dames that look like Corey Feldman!

    Give the homophobia shit a rest, please?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    And not have urine thrown at them.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think it’s that strange. All I wanted to know was whether he was a captain or a chief. The headline says one thing and the article says another. There’s a big difference and I think a professional writer should understand the distinction. To your second point, I’m not and don’t think I will, but thanks for that link to your YouTube channel. Never have before have I appreciated the entertainment value of Dane Cook, Lawrence Welk, and a dog licking its own balls as much as I have since being exposed to Lightning Eyeball Media. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    I love these pricks who insist that liberals are the true intelligentsia in this country.  Still not quite certain how these morons can so deeply reach up into their asses and pull such bullshit out.  Personally, I find these boasts fairly funny, but after two months of the OWS stupidity, I’ve about reached my limit.

  • Anonymous

    If I paid in to SSI, unemployment insurance, and for-filled my service to receive a Government Pension. you know “not a handout”.  Why is it one the the Tea Bag platforms to do away with these “welfare” programs.

    Cut teachers and public workers pay, pensions and benefits (voiding signed contracts)
    Raise the age of SSI eligibility and lower payments. ( easly fixed by raising taxes on the wealthy)
    Abolish Medicare and replace with a voucher (good luck with that free market if you get sick)

    Your movement has been co-opted (if not created) by the richest in America to keep you voting against your own best interest.  When will you get a clue?

  • Anonymous

    Am I wrong about Rick (good hair) Perry being on a government check since 1984?
    snatch me up?

  • OSux

    I’m glad that you are very gald.  Now go turn on PMSNBC.  It’s your time of the month.

  • proud2teabagu

    Wish I could brother.

  • proud2teabagu

    Your mommy has your warm milk ready now run along.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Ray Lewis for standing up to what you believe in.  We need a few more officers to come forward and fight for the rights of the 99%.  

  • proud2teabagu

    You insulted everybody who fought in a war you little pussy. Boy there is a big difference between you little worthless pieces of shit and the men who gave you the right to group them in with every group that draws a govt. check. If it wasn’t for them you would still be in Hanoi you low life vermain.

  • proud2teabagu

    You aint paid into shit you little pussy.

  • Anonymous

    Would you include in the group “everyone who fought in a war” the Viet Cong, or NVA?

    I am in Hanoi right now you Tea Bagger fool, Its called the world wide web for a reason.

  • ASAP
  • Liberal Chaos

    I spoke to jeebus. He wants you to stop using his fu cking name! And “limp wristed” only applies to homosexuals, liberals and little girls. CAPICHE?

  • ASAP

     Handsome pension is not even close to the golden parachute given to failed CEO’s in the private sector.  Since when is it wrong to give somebody a pension.  That is how fucked up the right wing has become. 

  • ASAP

    You are disgusting. 

  • Ricci Dats Gay

    Go start a dumpster fire on Wall street and grill a few liberal occupiers over the nice warm flame.

  • ASAP

    When you resort to childish tactics like homophobia, you have already lost the argument. 

  • Liberal Chaos

    You forgot to mention that president homeboy has been on a ‘government check’ since DAY FU CKING ONE!

  • Liberal Chaos

    Nope. Richy Maddow is a transsexual and you are HETEROPHOBIC.

  • Liberal Chaos

    REXTUM! You’re heterophobic. This can only mean one thing…

  • ASAP

     Hate is the hallmark of weak mind.  Sad.

  • Liberal Chaos

    The hot dog venders should poison the crowd so the paying customers can return.

  • Sheik Yerbouti

    They intentionally hire people to be police who are not the brightest bulbs in the lamp.  The NYPD are evidence of this.

  • Anonymous

    You wrote earlier…. Bush did half of it. Obama did the other half. House Republicans voted
    against it. Democrats voted for it. Obama voted for it. Who did the
    stimulus and what did it stimulate? Who did the auto bailouts? OF COURSE WE BAILED OUT THE AUTO INDUSTRY WOULD YOU HAVE THEM GO UNDER AND PUT EVEN MORE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK. WHAT KIND OF IDIOT ARE YOU? YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS CLUELESS TO HOW THINGS WORK. LIKE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT OBAMA’S SPENDING COMPARED TO BUSH. THEY DIDN’T EVEN PUT THE WAR INTO THEIR BUDGET.

    Yes, baseless opinions and not knowing how things work is what has got us in this mess. Thanks a lot Mr. 1%TELL ME CLOWN BOY JUST HOW DID THE GAP BETWEEN RICH AND POOR GET SO WIDE? BUT I SUPPOSE YOU ARE USED TO IT BEING FROM MEXICO AND ALL…

  • shonangreg

    He can only take his news in Fox-sized sound bites. I can simplify it even better for him, “On the conservative side, we have real American men. On the socialist side, I see nothing but straw men.”

  • Anonymous

    GOP                                                           Democrats

    Racists &  Bigots                                       Egalitarians

    More Government Control                            Pro-choice
    Women can’t make their
    own reproductive choices

    less regulations = more                            Regulations to protect population
    chance for corruption

    Tries to force Christianity                          believes in separation of church and state
    on country

    Thinks America is only                             non-xenophobic
    country on earth

    Rigs the system for their                           against legislation limiting right to vote
    benefit

    Cruel, heartless greedy pigs                      believes their should be an equal playing field for all

    Doesn’t believe in science                         believes in Science

  • Anonymous

    HERE IS THE REPLY TO YOUR LAST DISSERTATION…

    I have no problem with revamping the tax code, you my friend are
    the idiot, and you can’t just tax the rich, it will not work. WRONG AGAIN, I’M NOT YOUR FRIEND AND THE RATE FOR TAXES HAS TO GO UP AND WAY UP. REMEMBER BACK IN THE 50′S WHEN IKE WAS PRESIDENT? THE TOP TAX BRACKET WAS 90%. IF WE HAD THOSE TAX RATES IN EFFECT WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. OH, AND DO PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A SOCIALIST IKE WAS… You have
    to have a combination of both cut and revenue enhancements, the federal
    government can’t even find a way to reduce its projected increases in
    spending no less do anything important in reducing the deficit. IF WE NEED TO CUT, IT NEEDS TO BE MILITARY SPENDING. WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO BE POLICEMEN OF THE WORLD. The
    fact is that the Baseline for the federal budget calls for an 8% annual
    increase and the so called super committee can’t even reduce that down
    to 6%.  Conservatives hardly see giving the federal government more
    money before it shows any modicum of fiscal restraint as being the
    answer…  You can call for all the taxes you want on the rich, but it
    is just not going to happen before the government does some real and
    verifiable cutting of their budgets, IT WILL HAPPEN WHEN WE VOTE THE REPUBLICAN SLUGS OUT OF OFFICE You hardly impress me as being part
    of the !% OH BUT I LIVE TO IMPRESS YOU but nice try anyway.  Our tax code does not serve us well, it
    is full of subsidies and loopholes that are cut out for favor or are
    trying to move the market place somewhere where its natural forces do
    not want it to go, in either case it is time to get rid of it all and
    replace it with a more transparent and flatter system that will bring
    expand the tax base and allow this economy to grow.. and yes, that means
    more tax payers.. get over it..  already 47% of this population pays no
    federal income tax it is time that everyone pays something, the country
    needs their help. FLAT TAXES ARE REGRESSIVE ONCE AGAIN GIVING BREAKS TO THE RICH.  YES LETS PUT THE BURDEN ON THE BACKS OF THE POOREST PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?As far as the koches..  I am for getting rid
    of all establishment politicians both republicans and democrats, it is
    cute that you think that your side is so pure…again that is laughable,
    I don’t remember the Koches swearing an oath to the constitution, but I
    am pretty sure that your congressmen and senators did..  If you can
    prove the Koches corruption of our government, then good let’s throw
    them into jail, I’m all for it. THE SUPREME COURT LEGALIZED CORRUPTION WHEN THEY DECLARED THAT CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE WHICH ALLOWS SCUM BACKS LIKE THE COCKS TO SPREAD THEIR LIES THROUGH MEDIA BUYING WHILE THE REST OF US HAVE TO USE PLACES LIKE THIS TO LET THEIR OPINION BE KNOWN  As far as the billionaires go maybe you
    have a point, the combined wealth of all the billionaires in this
    country is just over 1.5 trillion dollars so if you act fast and take it
    now it just may cover a years worth of deficit spending. WHY DO YOU PROTECT THESE PEOPLE? JUST ANSWER THIS QUESTION… DO YOU THINK WE ARE A BETTER COUNTRY WHEN THERE IS SUCH A LARGE GAP BETWEEN RICH AND POOR? WHY IN THE LAST 30 YEARS DID THE TOP 1% INCOME RISE 275% WHILE THE 99% ROSE 5%? Dodd/Frank..
     it remains to be seen as that piece of legislation was some 2400 pages
    that we will not fully understand for some months to come as the
    regulators role it out and set parameters around it. YES AND CERTAINLY SINCE THE REPUBLICANS STONEWALLED ELIZABETH WARREN TO RUN THE NEW AGENCY NOTHING HAS GOTTEN DONE.  It amazes
    me how angry you liberals are, and how you focus your anger anywhere
    other than where it belongs.  I may not like the Koches, I may not like
    Wall Street or the Banks, but I know that it is the government that has
    set the table that has resulted in the problems that we face and I know
    that if I expect anything to change that it is the government that I
    will have to focus on to see that change occur.. YOUR ARE SO RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY YOU DON’T REALIZE THE PEOPLE YOU PROTECT ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SET THE TABLE FOR THE PIGS. IT IS THE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE DONE THIS.I am sure that
    you can also ask for the rich to pay for the public pension collapse
    that is just around the corner as well as the student loan defaults that
    are also coming.  Also I am interested in your suggestions on how we
    stimulate this economy, what do you think we can do to promote growth
    back here at home… NOTHING IS GOING TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY UNTIL WE HAVE A MORE OPEN PLAYING FIELD. WE HAVE TO STRICTLY ENFORCE ANTI-TRUST LAWS. RAISE THE TOP TAX BRACKET BACK TO 90% START A PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAM TO GET PEOPLE WORKING. TAX THE CRAP OUT OF HEDGE FUNDS. AND YES YOU IDIOTIC PIECE OF CRAP IF WE HADN’T HAD THE STIMULOUS YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN 15% UNEMPLOYMENT. TAX AND SPEND IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET US MOVING AGAIN.  more taxes…  maybe some more government
    spending….   do you think that will work?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Study your history my friend, Keynesian principles and programs did not get us out of the great recession if anything they just prolonged it…  It was WWII and the destruction of Europe and it’s manufacturing base that lifted us out of the depression…  WPA programs were the joke of not only the ERA but the butt of jokes to come for many years… WE POKE ALONG was a very popular phrase with your grandparents I’m sure as it was with mine.  

    Nobody ever paid those taxes as everything was different back then, we did not use electronic money and there still existed all those loopholes.  A 90% tax rate would destroy not build the economy, unless that is that you want to go full blown socialist which has never worked..  The fastest growing millionaire and billionaire class is now occurring in China, the once proud socialist country that turned to capitalistic principles to grow it’s economy…  

    This country needs solutions that will help it compete in the world’s economy, you have offered nothing to help solve that problem.  You talk as if the republican party is the source of all corruption when corruption is about the only bipartisan thing in DC that both parties overwhelmingly support!  The solutions you offer may make you feel good but offer little to propel this country into the 21st century…  We as a country have to solve these problems to maintain the standards of living that we have enjoyed, it is not republicans or democrats alone that have destroyed the middle class in this country but both together combined with the realities of the World Economy and our trading relationships…  We are not competing well and have seen fit to send our jobs overseas so that we can purchase cheap goods on our credit cards and the lines of credit we have taken out on our homes….  Well the bill has come due, credit is now tight effectively shrinking the money supply in this country and causing a sever contraction, much of our individual wealth has been wiped out in the value of what is the most important asset of most families, our homes.  Your answers offer nothing, you incorporate no real principles that will fix the underlying problems this country and it’s economy faces…  Your Robin Hood mentality is sophomoric and very much representative of the entitlement class.  

    You whale on Wall Street and the Banks, and call for more government spending…  haha that is really funny because it is the Federal Deficits that has placed all the power into the hands of Wall Street and the Banks, Foreign purchases of our Treasury bonds is actually decreasing, It is the Fed itself that is actually purchasing the bulk of our newly issued debt and they can not do so without the banks participation in their three card monty game…  the banks control Washington, it sucks, but no matter the legislation that you think that your bought and sold politicians pass to control the banks and Wall Street it is pretty useless as the government has to turn to them to purchase the every growing national debt..  So as you watch E3 roll out followed by QE4 just know that the Wall Street banksters are getting a healthy cut of the national debt simply by borrowing newly minted money from the fed near 0% interest to purchase discounted treasuries which they in turn sell back to the fed at near face value…  You and your movement are wholely owned and the Democratic party is wholely supportive of this process…  

    You offer nothing other than anger and jealously to fix this countries problems……  your solutions just don’t work.

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/who-is-buying-u-s-treasuries/

  • Anonymous

    Study your history my friend, Keynesian principles and programs did not
    get us out of the great recession if anything they just prolonged it…
     It was WWII and the destruction of Europe and it’s manufacturing base
    that lifted us out of the depression…  WPA programs were the joke of
    not only the ERA but the butt of jokes to come for many years… WE POKE
    ALONG was a very popular phrase with your grandparents I’m sure as it
    was with mine.  AGAIN YOU ARE CRAZY. WHAT GOT US IN THE THE GREAT DEPRESSION WAS ANOTHER LONG TENURE OF DEREGULATING WALL STREET WHICH LED TO CASINO STYLE SPECULATION. ARE YOU ARE SUGGESTING A NEW WORLD WAR TO GET US OUT OF ECONOMIC MALAISE? IT MOST CERTAINLY WAS THE ACTIONS OF ROOSEVELT’S NEW DEAL THAT GOT US MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND AGAIN AS NOW THE REPUBLICANS WOULDN’T LET THE PRESIDENT GO ALL THE WAY WITH HIS PLAN SO IT TOOK LONGER THAN WAS NEEDED TO GET THE ECONOMY BACK ON ITS FEET.

    Nobody ever paid those taxes as everything was
    different back then,  we did not use electronic money and there still
    existed all those loopholes.  A 90% tax rate would destroy not build the
    economy, unless that is that you want to go full blown socialist which
    has never worked..  The fastest growing millionaire and billionaire
    class is now occurring in China, the once proud socialist country that
    turned to capitalistic principles to grow it’s economy…  AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG. THERE MIGHT BE A TON OF NEW MILLIONAIRES IN CHINA BUT IT IS A TOTALLY CONTROLLED ECONOMIC BASE WITH GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES EVERYWHERE. I DO BUSINESS WITH CHINESE FIRMS AND TO GET PAID YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH ALL SORTS OF BUREAUCRATIC RED GOVERNMENT TAPE. ALL WESTERN POWERS HAVE SOCIALIST PRINCIPLES IN PLAY. HOW ABOUT THOSE FARM SUBSIDIES… YES WE NEED A 90% TAX BRACKET AFTER YOU MAKE OVER 10 MILLION DOLLARS IN A  SINGLE YEAR. DON’T WORRY YOU WON’T HAVE TO PAY IT. WE NEED RULES FOR CORPORATIONS THAT DO NOT ALLOW CEO’S TO MAKE OVER 27 TIME THE LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEE IN THE COMPANY AS WELL. WE NEED TOUGHER LAWS TO INHIBIT CONSOLIDATION AND MERGERS. MOST OF ALL WE NEED THE FCC TO ROLL BACK AND PUT INTO PLACE THE RULE THAT NO CORPORATION CAN OWN MORE THAN 7 RADIO AND TV STATIONS.

    This
    country needs solutions that will help it compete in the world’s
    economy, you have offered nothing to help solve that problem.  You talk
    as if the republican party is the source of all corruption when
    corruption is about the only bipartisan thing in DC that both parties
    overwhelmingly support! NO REPUBLICANS ARE ABOUT OBSTRUCTIONISM. EACH PARTY HAS HAD ITS SHARE OF SCANDAL ALTHOUGH REPUBLICANS ARE MUCH MORE PRONE TO IT THEN DEMS.   The solutions you offer may make you feel good
    but offer little to propel this country into the 21st century… THE SOLUTIONS I OFFER ARE COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS BECAUSE EERY THING YOU FAVOR HAS TRIED AND FAILED. WE HAVE THE LOWEST TAX RATES PRACTICALLY EVER. WHERE ARE THE JOBS? CORPORATE COFFERS ARE FULL OF CASH. WHERE ARE THE JOBS? WHY IS THEIR THE LARGEST GAP BETWEEN RICH AND POOR EVER – JUST ANSWER THAT QUESTION BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IF YOU REPLY  We as a
    country have to solve these problems to maintain the standards of
    living that we have enjoyed, it is not republicans or democrats alone
    that have destroyed the middle class in this country but both together
    combined with the realities of the World Economy and our trading
    relationships…  HORSE SHIT… IT IS REPUBLICAN DEREGULATION AND TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY THAT HAS CAUSED THIS PROBLEM.  We are not competing well and have seen fit to send
    our jobs overseas so that we can purchase cheap goods on our credit
    cards and the lines of credit we have taken out on our homes…. WE ARE NOT COMPETING BECAUSE OUR CORPORATIONS HAVE SQUEEZED OUT THE UNIONS FOR CHEAP PRACTICALLY CHILD LABOR OVERSEAS.  Well
    the bill has come due, credit is now tight effectively shrinking the
    money supply in this country and causing a sever contraction, much of
    our individual wealth has been wiped out in the value of what is the
    most important asset of most families, our homes. CREDIT HAS NEVER BEEN CHEAPER AND THE BANKS WON’T LOAN MONEY. AGAIN THE PROBLEMS ARE WITH THE BANKS. Your answers offer
    nothing, you incorporate no real principles that will fix the underlying
    problems this country and it’s economy faces…  Your Robin Hood
    mentality is sophomoric and very much representative of the entitlement
    class. LISTEN YOU DESPICABLE GREEDY  PRICK – I STARTED MY BUSINESS WITH 40K AND 5 CREDIT CARDS AND HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS 12 YEARS. I CREATE JOBS AND CREATED JOBS DURING THE RECESSION STARTING NEW COMPANIES THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL SO DON’T TALK TO ME ABOUT ENTITLEMENT CLASS BULL SHIT. HOW MANY JOBS HAVE YOU CREATED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. MILLIONIARES STORMED THE CAPITAL THIS WEEK TO TELL CONGRESS TO RAISE TAXES. THEY KNOW THEY ARE LIVING IN AN UNFAIR WORLD THAT IS ALL TO THEIR ADVANTAGE. WHY DON’T YOU KNOW IT.

    You wail on Wall Street and the Banks, and call for more
    government spending…  haha that is really funny because it is the
    Federal Deficits that has placed all the power into the hands of Wall
    Street and the Banks, FEDERAL DEFICITS? YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING. IT HAS BEEN ALL DOWN HILL SINCE THEY CHANGED THE BANKING RULES TO LET INVESTMENT BANKS BE ACTUAL DEPOSITORY BANK AND THEN RISK ALL OF THE MONEY ON SPECULATIVE BULL SHIT.  Foreign purchases of our Treasury bonds is
    actually decreasing, It is the Fed itself that is actually purchasing
    the bulk of our newly issued debt and they can not do so without the
    banks participation in their three card monty game…  the banks control
    Washington, it sucks, but no matter the legislation that you think that
    your bought and sold politicians pass to control the banks and Wall
    Street it is pretty useless as the government has to turn to them to
    purchase the every growing national debt.. YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOURSELF. IS IT THE FEDS BUYING THE DEBT OR THE BANKS?  So as you watch E3 roll out
    followed by QE4 just know that the Wall Street banksters are getting a
    healthy cut of the national debt simply by borrowing newly minted money
    from the fed near 0% interest to purchase discounted treasuries which
    they in turn sell back to the fed at near face value…  You and your
    movement are wholely owned and the Democratic party is wholely
    supportive of this process…  

    You offer nothing other than anger and jealously to fix this countries problems……  your solutions just don’t work. YOU OFFER NOTHING BUT THE FAILED POLICIES THAT YOU KNOW DO NOT WORK. GET A LIFE… GO CREATE SOME JOBS. I DO.

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2...

  • Anonymous

    JUST READ YOUR OWN POST. IT IS A VERY EASY CONCLUSION TO COME TO I HAVE PUT OUT.

  • KC

    The media images allow us to become lost in the bad behaviors by individuals.  Whether an NYPD Supervisor gets out of control with the mace, or a masked teen defecates on a cop cruiser, these images not only spell-bind us, but allow us to retreat to the side of our tendencies, point fingers and shout at the other guy.

    We then miss the real nature of what is happening to our citizens and why folks are pouring into the streets.

    What IS meaningful is that the ever-growing sense of unrest and discontent has taken shape in the form of citizen protest.  Many, if not most, protesters have assembled because the financial crisis has affected them or those close to them personally. These personal tragedies parallel the data that truly reflects the status of American life.

    Poverty is up; unemployment is up; the wealth of the richest 1% has
    grown exponentially over the last generation while middle and lower
    incomes have remained comparatively flat. The middle class has
    diminished from 65% of the population to just 44%

    Of the nations regarded as “first world,” the US ranks highest in
    terms of income inequality. In a recent Bertelsmann Foundation report,
    the U.S. ranks a dismal 29th out of 31 in analysis of poverty
    prevention. The statistics become more skewed for communities of
    color. Unemployment for African-American and Hispanic men is well above
    20% and the real wealth of African American women is $5. Five dollars.

    Most striking is that current income inequality is higher now than even during the darkest days of the Great Depression.

    The upshot is that the ascension to the American dream has become
    truly dreamlike, while real probabilities indicate further economic
    dilapidation and collapse for American citizens and families.

    If we are to be truly a great nation, a great community, we need to care for our citizens first, not the corporate entities that have skillfully manipulated our media and our politics with ever cascading money-lust over the last decades.

    ——-

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2011-10-27/income-gap/50952720/1

    http://www.salon.com/2011/10/29/why_inequality_in_america_is_even_worse_than_you_thought/
     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    “YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOURSELF. IS IT THE FEDS BUYING THE DEBT OR THE BANKS?  ”

    The Fed can not directly purchase new issues from the treasury, it is illegal. They have to buy their securities through the open market, thus the game is on….  Washington needs money, so they nod their head to the Fed who issues a notice of its intent to purchase inviting a select group of Wall Street banks and firms to submit bids at which they will sell  treasuries to the Fed while they borrow taxpayer money at near 0% interest to go out and buy the interest bearing (discounted) treasuries which they will in turn sell back to the Fed at near face value. The Fed in the mean time is advertising this whole charade as Quantitative Easing and as an effort to keep interest rates low, giving them an excuse to purchase treasuries from these institutions at near maturity value, allowing those institutions a tidy little profit for the simple act of allowing taxpayer dollars to pass through their institutions.  This is how Washington is currently financing the bulk of the debt not purchased in foreign capital markets as US treasuries are declining in those markets…  Washington can not finance it’s debt at the rates it does without the participation of Wall Street in it’s little game…  Washington bows down to Wall Street because without them the game is over as on truly open markets the interest rates would be higher than what they are in this closed little game they play, “To Big to Fail”  is the only game in town that is large enough and corrupt enough to play this game.  

  • For the People

    I wish that all of you commenting here would realize that liberal democrat and conservative republican are only tools to keep people divided.  Perhaps you identify with one or the other, but what you are missing is that there is no difference between the two parties; their real platform is centered around the wishes of the people who fund them, not you and me and our best interests.  Stop calling each other names and figure out a way to work together and we will see change much more quickly.

  • Big Taters

    Dueling Fool. Go to your corner and don’t come out until our countries dead you simpleton.

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