We suggest simply a healthy does of reading Mediaite to best cure all misinformation ails.

NOW WHO IS BEING DUMB!

LMAO!

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Because of MEDIAite,,
Bill Sammon is MY HERO!

Glad to see that the University of Maryland did not waste that grant money from the Tides foundation .

“Perhaps one could read the report as suggesting that the best way to stay informed is to simply avoid cable news altogether”.

No, I would say it suggests how easy it is to word dubious and confusing questions to a small sample of people with the express intent of drawing your own predetermined conclusions.

Seriously guys, this is credible how??

“According to the researchers, daily Fox News viewers–regardless of their political party affiliation–were “significantly” more likely than non-Fox viewers to believe:”

That’s why the research turned out the way it did
WE GOTTA BUNCH OF DUMB DEMOCRATS WACTHIN’ MY FINE AMERICAN NETWORK!!!

Atticus Draco said:
“According to the researchers, daily Fox News viewers–regardless of their political party affiliation–were “significantly” more likely than non-Fox viewers to believe:”

That’s why the research turned out the way it did
WE GOTTA BUNCH OF DUMB DEMOCRATS WACTHIN’ MY FINE AMERICAN NETWORK!!!

HONESTLY,,
Democrats ALWAYS spoil the sample!!!

IF a poll gets wrecked ,, it usually over the involvement of democrats!!

Automated Conservative Response: The study is flawed. It was done by a University. Only liberals go to universities. Liberals are evil. Hence, studies and studying is also evil.

But for real, this shouldn’t be a shock to anyone living in reality.

Fact, I could do a study today and find that a majority of the people I poll think Elvis is still alive.

FOX is #1 and the libs can’t stand it!!

Publius219 said:
But for real, this shouldn’t be a shock to anyone living in reality

said the scarecrow to Dorthy

Show me an unbiased poll that lists who the most informed viewers are, by unbiased standards.

Your scientific study is no match for my gut feeling.

Ha ha ha the denial by the Reich Wingers is delicious.

But remember evil biased Pew did the same thing 3 years ago and well what do ya know!!! SAME EXACT RESULT

http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

I think it should be explained that the U of Maryland study was conducted by World Public Opinion. WPO is a far left wing organization. For proof of that, look at its backers (who include Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation and TIDES FOUNDATION.)

Can we say: Credibility Issue?

This is like reporting on a poll about race which is conducted by the KKK.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/about.php?nid=&id=#support

It seems that from the questions listed in this story, there was a lot of opinion, when there should have been facts.

For example: “The economy is getting worse (26 points)”

That’s an opinion. Someone who reads certain facts one way, may build the conclusion that we’re getting better… while another person, reading the same facts, may say we’re just temporarily getting better before we get worse overall. Those are both opinions, and to suggest that there is a definitive answer to “the economy is getting worse,” is wrong.

Studies like this come out every once in a while, and are trumpeted by those who hate FNC for presenting opinions they disagree with. It’s nothing new, and nothing to take overly seriously.

Of course, as I said before, those who want to hate FNC will continue to do so… and this “study” will only make happier. So here we go… here come the people who will say anyone who watches FNC is “dumb, fat, ignorant, etc. etc.” while ignoring the actual methodology of the “study.” But they too, shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

Is this intended to prove that Keith Olbermann watches fox news? He seems the most mis-informed…

Did they show how fox “caused” any misperceptions?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Fact, I could do a study today and find that a majority of the people I poll think Elvis is still alive.

FOX is #1 and the libs can’t stand it!!

Americans for the most part are ignorant and stupid. Any thinking person on this planet knows this so FAUX being #1 is really no surprise.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Fact, I could do a study today and find that a majority of the people I poll think Elvis is still alive.

FOX is #1 and the libs can’t stand it!!

Argumentum ad populum logical fallacy.

The results above are not isolated. Pew Research, a widely respected polling firm has confirmed this time and time again.

http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/993/who-knows-news-what-you-read-or-view-matters-but-not-your-politics

Too bad teabaggers. You even excuse your own ignorance and profound vacuity.

Americans for the most part are ignorant and stupid.

And there we have the U. of Maryland’s starting off point.

Publius219 said:
Automated Conservative Response: The study is flawed. It was done by a University. Only liberals go to universities. Liberals are evil. Hence, studies and studying is also evil. But for real, this shouldn’t be a shock to anyone living in reality.

Would you believe a study which was funded by the John Birch Society?

All you need to do is read the comment section here and other blogs around the web ( particularly Huffington Post a MSNBC drone site) and you’ll know where the mis/distorted information is coming from.

“Of course, one could argue that the academic world is the province of progressive thought, filled with many individuals who’ve developed a distaste in Fox News’ ”

That about sums it up.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Jackie_Treehorn says:
December 17, 2010 at 1:43 pm Jackie_Treehorn(Quote)
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writer said:
And the Nazis did ’studies’ which ‘proved’ that all other races were inferior. But we have to believe them. After all, they were ’studies’.
Oh and Godwin’s Law….you lose.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-brian-kilmeade-comments-on-sen-claire-mccaskills-senate-speech-that-voice-goes-right-through-me/#comment-246204

VERSUS

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Ha ha ha the denial by the Reich Wingers is delicious. But remember evil biased Pew did the same thing 3 years ago and well what do ya know!!! SAME EXACT RESULT http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

I guess Jackie can make Nazi references (by calling people she disagrees with Nazis), but someone like Writer isn’t allowed to reference Nazis… even if he’s not actually calling anyone else a Nazi.

Sure it’s hypocrisy… but U of Maryland didn’t study that.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Americans for the most part are ignorant and stupid.

Spoken like a true “progressive”.

Gasket said:
Argumentum ad populum logical fallacy. The results above are not isolated. Pew Research, a widely respected polling firm has confirmed this time and time again. http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions http://pewresearch.org/pubs/993/who-knows-news-what-you-read-or-view-matters-but-not-your-politics Too bad teabaggers. You even excuse your own ignorance and profound vacuity.

Gasket,

Thanks for sharing this study with us. It seems to contradict the WPO/U of Maryland study. If you read it, you’ll find these words:

Well-informed audiences come from cable (Daily Show/Colbert Report, O’Reilly Factor), the internet (especially major newspaper websites), broadcast TV (NewsHour with Jim Lehrer) and radio (NPR, Rush Limbaugh’s program).

Thanks for pointingout that us O`Rielly watching/Rush listeners are well informed.

writer said:
Americans for the most part are ignorant and stupid. And there we have the U. of Maryland’s starting off point.

Where did you go to school? The University of Pheonix?

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Ha ha ha the denial by the Reich Wingers is delicious. But remember evil biased Pew did the same thing 3 years ago and well what do ya know!!! SAME EXACT RESULT http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

Ms Treehorn, you should try reading beyond the headline. If you did, you’d see that your study confirms that those Rush and Factor fans are “WELL informed.”

Heres the exact quote:
Well-informed audiences come from cable (Daily Show/Colbert Report, O’Reilly Factor), the internet (especially major newspaper websites), broadcast TV (NewsHour with Jim Lehrer) and radio (NPR, Rush Limbaugh’s program).

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Americans for the most part are ignorant and stupid.

In fact, this is the backbone of “progressive” thought. Americans are too stupid to take care of themselves, so the government must do it.
WRONG!

Scott_in_MI said:
Gasket,

Thanks for sharing this study with us. It seems to contradict the WPO/U of Maryland study. If you read it, you’ll find these words:

Well-informed audiences come from cable (Daily Show/Colbert Report, O’Reilly Factor), the internet (especially major newspaper websites), broadcast TV (NewsHour with Jim Lehrer) and radio (NPR, Rush Limbaugh’s program).

Thanks for pointingout that us O`Rielly watching/Rush listeners are well informed.

I did that deliberately! Now you can not argue and say the polling was biased against the right. Fox News comes at the bottom of those polls too which reinforces the conclusion of the UoM study! Thanks for playing.

Jackie said it. I just wonder why someone so much smarter than everyone else chooses to stay in this stupid country.

Gasket said:
Argumentum ad populum logical fallacy. The results above are not isolated. Pew Research, a widely respected polling firm has confirmed this time and time again. http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions http://pewresearch.org/pubs/993/who-knows-news-what-you-read-or-view-matters-but-not-your-politics Too bad teabaggers. You even excuse your own ignorance and profound vacuity.

You got a little quiet Son. Itt sucks when you make yourself look like an ass doesn’t it?

I don’t think anyone comes out looking good in this. Large numbers of people from both sides of the aisle were misinformed and the media at large (as per usual) deserves much of the blame, not any single channel. I also think that the study’s results are meant to condemn not a single TV network (which is what most of the media will do) but buying elections. Here’s what Clay Ramsay of WorldPublicOpinion said: “the fact that voters perceived a higher than usual level of false and misleading information, suggests that the increased flow of money into political advertising may have contributed to a higher level of misinformation.”

Gasket said:
I did that deliberately!

Oh OK, you deliberately made yourself look like an asshole by saying a paticular study says something that it doesn’t.

I see. Oh yeah, I deliberately bet on the Bears last week to prove a point that they’d win.

“Study: Fox News Viewers “Most Misinformed” Of All News Consumers”. And that’s putting it kindly.

Water is wet, the sky is blue, death and taxes and Fox News viewers are idiots.

RRK and GBR watch Fox all the time.

Gasket said:
I did that deliberately! Now you can not argue and say the polling was biased against the right. Fox News comes at the bottom of those polls too which reinforces the conclusion of the UoM study! Thanks for playing.

If the study says that O’Reilly has one of the most well informed audiences, and the U of Maryland study says the opposite… how does that prove your point?

Patrick Henry said:
In fact, this is the backbone of “progressive” thought. Americans are too stupid to take care of themselves, so the government must do it.
WRONG!

No Americans are stupid in general. Hell it’s just fact. Hence the reason why the real “‘Muricans” repeatedly believe the lies FAUX throws at them.

So sad to be proud of ignorance….

Fact: I wonder how many jobs will be lost due to this cluster Fuck study from graduating class that can’t get job and wonder why!

What’s really ignorant is choosing to stay in a country where you consider most people to be ignorant.

ImNotBlue said:
VERSUS

I guess Jackie can make Nazi references (by calling people she disagrees with Nazis), but someone like Writer isn’t allowed to reference Nazis… even if he’s not actually calling anyone else a Nazi.

Sure it’s hypocrisy… but U of Maryland didn’t study that.

Who did I call a Nazi? Enlighten me with that one…

Jackie_Treehorn said:
So sad to be proud of ignorance….

Hypocrite.

writer said:
What’s really ignorant is choosing to stay in a country where you consider most people to be ignorant.

I live in Northern Oregon….I don’t live in ‘Murica.

Oddly, from what’s shown above, about half of the items that Fox News viewers were “wrong” about is open to interpretation, while none of the items that viewers of the “other” networks were wrong about are not open to interpretation.

ImNotBlue said:
Hypocrite.

So says the rightie. That’s rich…..

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Who did I call a Nazi? Enlighten me with that one…

Oh, are you not aware that when you said:

Ha ha ha the denial by the Reich Wingers is delicious.

You were saying you believe that the “right wingers” are Nazis? Are you unaware of the “Third Reich”.

My mistake, Jackie. I thought you might be smart enough to know what the words you were using meant. I guess I was wrong.

Just a bit farther north, Jackie, and you could be in Canada. Much more enlightened up there. Wouldn’t you be happier? What are you waiting for?

Fact: Look at liberal posters on Mediaite and it goes to show how they did it up the in class turning in the Google fraud homework for grade stuff! Hell the fact is a fact the people behind the poll voted for Ozero! That’s a fact! Look where we are today since he became president! Enough said!

ImNotBlue said:
Oh, are you not aware that when you said:

You were saying you believe that the “right wingers” are Nazis? Are you unaware of the “Third Reich”.

My mistake, Jackie. I thought you might be smart enough to know what the words you were using meant. I guess I was wrong.

There’s that American intelligence again. Not realizing there were two empires before the Nazi’s who wanted complete totalitarian control over a country such as today’s Reich Wingers do over the United States. But hey continue to prove my point….

Oregon isn’t that far from Canada, eh?

I look at this study as evidence supporting why so much money is spent on political campaigns these days. You get your money’s worth. If Americans are misinformed, it isn’t because they’re all stupid or ignorant. Blame a nonstop barrage of campaigns ads and cable news networks that do nothing better than spin, shout, and sensationalize.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
No Americans are stupid in general. Hell it’s just fact. Hence the reason why the real “‘Muricans” repeatedly believe the lies FAUX throws at them. So sad to be proud of ignorance….

so sad to be you

Jackie_Treehorn said:
There’s that American intelligence again. Not realizing there were two empires before the Nazi’s who wanted complete totalitarian control over a country such as today’s Reich Wingers do over the United States. But hey continue to prove my point….

And it’s your opinion that the American Right wants “totalitarian control” over the United States?

And what is your evidence for that little nugget of insanity?

writer said:
What’s really ignorant is choosing to stay in a country where you consider most people to be ignorant.

ignorant means uninformed…exactly the opposite of being informed.

You are only proving that be ignorant of what the word ignorant means….sad

writer said:
Oregon isn’t that far from Canada, eh?

and stupid isn’t that far from idiot…so what’s your point?

Spine Crusher, if you were as smart as you think you are, you’d realize that someone who whines about most people in their country being ignorant, then voluntarily choose to stay in that country, can’t be all that bright either.

This is meaningless survey, because it only tested whether survey respondents could validate Democrat talking points. This didn’t test whether respondents were informed — you would need a broader set of less ideologically tainted questions to establish that — merely whether they knew the progressive party line. Good grief, a university actually allowed its name to be linked to this worthless propaganda?

writer said:
Spine Crusher, if you were as smart as you think you are, you’d realize that someone who whines about most people in their country being ignorant, then voluntarily choose to stay in that country, can’t be all that bright either.

that is a ridiculous statement to make and supported by nothing but your own vitriol and lack of intellect.

I believe most Americans don’t have time to pay as much attention to the news as they’d like, or further investigate what they see in campaign ads or on cable news. They are too busy working and raising kids and all of the things that are an offshoot of working and having a family. Firms that make campaign ads are certainly aware of this and bank on it. It doesn’t mean people are stupid. They certainly can’t rely on cable or local news to provide complex, in-depth coverage. In 1998, in the 3 months before a statewide election in California, less than 1% of local news time was devoted to covering the campaign. Around that time hard news accounted for about 35% of local news programming. The rest was fluff, weather, sports, and commercials. In some cities commercials made up more than half of a 30-minute broadcast. It’s probably only gotten worse since then.

whats new?
facts dont matter to right wingers,fox news is not news,get over it.

writer said:
Spine Crusher, if you were as smart as you think you are, you’d realize that someone who whines about most people in their country being ignorant, then voluntarily choose to stay in that country, can’t be all that bright either.

It is neither your place or your decision to make where anyone but yourself decides to live.

Like myself, you are just another anonymous poster on one of thousands of internet boards.

Deal with that! You have NO POWER!

SC, I can’t see why you’re getting so worked up. Jackie said most people in this country are ignorant, yet Canada is nearby and she chooses to stay here. It’s like the old joke where the guy complains about what’s in his lunch box, and when someone says he should have his wife pack something else, the guy replies he’s not married.

Misinformed = having a negative impression of Obama’s agenda.

Oh I get it. Anyhoo, I doubt the progressive blogosphere will have a field day with this one despite its insignificance.

writer said:
SC, I can’t see why you’re getting so worked up. Jackie said most people in this country are ignorant, yet Canada is nearby and she chooses to stay here. It’s like the old joke where the guy complains about what’s in his lunch box, and when someone says he should have his wife pack something else, the guy replies he’s not married.

don’t cry…it’ll be ok

SC, did I tell Jackie “You have to get out”? No. She’s unhappy with the intelligence level of most people in this country, and Canada is nearby. I merely suggested a way for her to be happy. And this is the thanks I get. Sheeesh!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
FOX is #1

At spewing misiformation to its sheeple.

fox news encourage racist people to be openly racist and think it is okay,hey fox news does it so can i.
i dont like obama because of his policy wink wink.obama was born in kenya wink. obama hate rich people wink. These people are so stupid,and the media allows them to get away with all thier racist bullshit.He is taking away our freedoms,yea right,bush did that for 8 years whiles most of you had your fingers in your nose at your parents basement or in your bunkers.
please.
Dan abrahms shame on you,money is not everything,you have found a market for racist right wing nut jobs.
i hope you can sleep well at night.

Fox has had on racist guests, such as Al Sharpton and Rev. Wright.

Sharpton, isn’t he the tolerant fellow I’ve been reading about who likes to call people “punk faggots?”

writer said:
What’s really ignorant is choosing to stay in a country where you consider most people to be ignorant.

That is true, but I am a liberal elitist and being better than most people makes me feel good.

And Beck had Sharpton as a guest! Well, that proves it. Fox not only has on racists, but homophobes too.

“Fox Viewers are Most Misinformed” Of All News Consumers”

The problem extends beyond them being just misinformed. It is a willingness by Fox News’s management to pursue ideological-based information at the expense of the truth. And there are plenty of Fox Viewer’s who know this and still watch that crap.

I condemn every one of you losers who spend your entire day watching Fox News and leaving comments on the sites of New TvNewser, Johnny Dollar and Mediaite using multiple sock puppets.

You hear that, GBR? Stop watching Beck and get a life already.

Scott_in_MI said:
You got a little quiet Son. Itt sucks when you make yourself look like an ass doesn’t it?

I made my self look like an ass by posting TWO different PR polls showing Fox News viewers being amongst the LEAST informed viewers? Really? Basically reinforcing and supporting UoM’s study? Do you want me to draw for you to get a clearer picture? This thread is not about Rush Limbaugh. It’s about the profound misinformed viewers of FNC. How about staying focussed?

ImNotBlue said:
If the study says that O’Reilly has one of the most well informed audiences, and the U of Maryland study says the opposite… how does that prove your point?

Are you serious? The Pew Research polls both show FNC at the bottom. Did you even READ those articles? Not all FNC viewers watch The O’Reilly Factor. The study was a comprehensive analysis of people who primarily get their news from Fox News. That includes other opinionated shows and “straight news” programming.

The problem is not just Fox News. Watching MSNBC all day wouldn’t make anyone more informed than if they watched Fox News all day. It’s a media problem. The media by and large is focused on whatever makes them money, which is spinning, shouting, and simplifying. They are rarely in the business of complex, in-depth news coverage and analysis. This doesn’t benefit anyone regardless of their political persuasions.

Fox News: Waging war against secular governance said:
“Fox Viewers are Most Misinformed” Of All News Consumers” The problem extends beyond them being just misinformed. It is a willingness by Fox News’s management to pursue ideological-based information at the expense of the truth. And there are plenty of Fox Viewer’s who know this and still watch that crap. I condemn every one of you losers who spend your entire day watching Fox News and leaving comments on the sites of New TvNewser, Johnny Dollar and Mediaite using multiple sock puppets.

how bout some examples?

timzank said:
Seriously guys, this is credible how??

This is actually not the first study to make this claim. How many of the things on the list did you believe.

I remember seeing a few videos of people being asked questions at a Tea Party rally and at Glenn’s DC rally, and a lot of people are pissed and can only give you generalities on why, some outright incorrect. I remember the man at the mike telling some folks that Obama had cut taxes for working folks and they just didn’t believe him.

The study is linked in a pdf file so you can check it out personally. It happens to be the same group that Beck and Stu used to support their 10% of Muslims are terrorists claim.
I think the important point is that our major media news sources are no longer informing the public as they should, with hard facts about relevant issues.

Scott_in_MI said:
I think it should be explained that the U of Maryland study was conducted by World Public Opinion. WPO is a far left wing organization. For proof of that, look at its backers (who include Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation and TIDES FOUNDATION.)

Can we say: Credibility Issue?

This is like reporting on a poll about race which is conducted by the KKK.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/about.php?nid=&id=#support

That’s very interesting since it’s the same group Beck and Stu used to justify their claim that 10% of Muslims are terrorists. I guess they’re only credible when they say something you like.

Mediaite: “Of course, one could argue that the academic world is the province of progressive thought, filled with many individuals who’ve developed a distaste in Fox News’ unique brand of opiniotainment.”

BINGO

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Americans for the most part are ignorant and stupid.

And hence the election of Obama.

Mykonos08 said:
Misinformed = having a negative impression of Obama’s agenda.

Oh I get it. Anyhoo, I doubt the progressive blogosphere will have a field day with this one despite its insignificance.

Fox news was misinforming it’s viewership way before Obama was a U.S. Senator. Polls have supported this. Being hostile towards this revelation just reinforces the mindset of FNC viewers. It’s the reason people like Sarah Palin thought and believed Saddam had something to do with 9-11. Where do you think that perception stems from? I will give you a guess. The news network she now works for.

Scott_in_MI said:
Would you believe a study which was funded by the John Birch Society?

You’d better tell Glenn and Stu since they seemed to believe them.

There seems to be a bad habit forming of just tossing out any fact you don’t like by claiming the source is biased. Even biased sources get some of the facts right, and even biased people can have some interest in being factual and truthful. If we dismiss every source that we believe may be biased without checking it out we won’t have many sources left.

Everyone of is entitled to their opinions that is what makes this country the best in the world. I am a frequent Fox viewer and the biggest problem I have with some their programs, not all, is they invite representatives in that are either on their payroll or sit of the far right to comment on their stories. Of course, this just reinforces what was just said. Enless you do your own research and for those people who use Fox as their single source this becomes true in their minds. To make an informed decision you must get many opinions and judge for yourself what is true. Unfortunately most people don’t have the time or are to lazy. I have done fact checks on many stories on Fox and found some to be true and some to have a right wing spin or leaving out many important components. Also why are their so many political show on the Fox business channel? This is suppose to be a business channel and not a political channel. Barney and company is a good example of this. The end result to me at least is they lose credit ability. I’m not saying that MSNBC does not pull some of the same tricks, but if I want informed business information CNBC keep to the business at hand. Why doesn’t Fox on their business channel?

Scott_in_MI said:
Gasket,

Thanks for sharing this study with us. It seems to contradict the WPO/U of Maryland study. If you read it, you’ll find these words:

Well-informed audiences come from cable (Daily Show/Colbert Report, O’Reilly Factor), the internet (especially major newspaper websites), broadcast TV (NewsHour with Jim Lehrer) and radio (NPR, Rush Limbaugh’s program).

Thanks for pointingout that us O`Rielly watching/Rush listeners are well informed.

and these words as well

The less informed audiences also frequent a mix of formats: broadcast television (network morning news shows, local news), cable (Fox News Channel), and the internet (online blogs where people discuss news events).

I think we need to separate the Fox opinion shows from the news broadcasts. Just like when Olbermann referred to Michelle Malkin as a ‘lip-sticked, mashed up bag of meat’. Is this misinformation? To most people, she appears to be an Asian woman. So if most MSNBC viewers believe she actually is a lip sticked, mashed up bag of meat, are they being misinformed?

Jonathan Scott said:
Water is wet, the sky is blue, death and taxes and Fox News viewers are idiots.

Soooo………..death and taxes are idiots?

You left out “Jonathon Scott cannot compose a simple sentence”.

Fact: only FoxNews watchers are surprised.

Fact: those defending FoxNews did not read the study/poll.

Fact: those of us who know regular consumers of FoxNews (as their primar/sole source) spew only Republican and Beck talking points.

Fact: FoxNews watchers simply don’t care about actual facts/reality.

Hahaha wow, tell us something we don’t already know.

writer said:
I think we need to separate the Fox opinion shows from the news broadcasts. Just like when Olbermann referred to Michelle Malkin as a ‘lip-sticked, mashed up bag of meat’. Is this misinformation? To most people, she appears to be an Asian woman. So if most MSNBC viewers believe she actually is a lip sticked, mashed up bag of meat, are they being misinformed?

We do need to separate them. Fox has some decent hard news shows. I like Shep Smith and Chris Wallace. If pundits were giving more hard facts along with their opinions people could probably tell the difference better. I’ve also noticed on Fox that they very often blur the lines between opinion and news, having a series of guests and discussions on news shows that are just someone offering an opinion. I suppose the other networks do as well because sensationalizing or just opinions and discussions are cheaper to do than investigative journalism.

More Liberty said:
Jackie_Treehorn said:
Americans for the most part are ignorant and stupid.

More Liberty said:
And hence the election of Obama.

lol,, i 2nd this

“We’ve smartend up since then,, ‘coz over at FOX,, we now know we dont like him much”
“Heard tell over there,, Obama is a keynesian!! shouldnt that be on his birth certificate?”

Scott_in_MI said:
how bout some examples?

There are over 100 videos cataloged on You Tube showing this. Are you sure you have the time to watch them all? I can give you a link……LOL.

writer said:
I think we need to separate the Fox opinion shows from the news broadcasts. Just like when Olbermann referred to Michelle Malkin as a ‘lip-sticked, mashed up bag of meat’. Is this misinformation? To most people, she appears to be an Asian woman. So if most MSNBC viewers believe she actually is a lip sticked, mashed up bag of meat, are they being misinformed?

I think it’s getting harder and harder for the major cable news networks to convince people that there is a separation. These channels are identified by their opinion people. The opinion people make the news. The networks don’t do much to dissuade this. They care about ratings and connecting with their demos more than they care about convincing people that there is a difference between the news broadcasts and the opinion shows.

Patrick Henry said:
In fact, this is the backbone of “progressive” thought. Americans are too stupid to take care of themselves, so the government must do it.
WRONG!

I hate to break it to you, but lots of people are dumb. We have entire hit TV shows that do nothing but show just how dumb people are (Jersey Shore, SP Alaska, etc.).

Surprise surprise, motherf*ckers!!!
…not.

jjay7381 said:
I hate to break it to you, but lots of people are dumb. We have entire hit TV shows that do nothing but show just how dumb people are (Jersey Shore, SP Alaska, etc.).

You forgot Hannity.

CosmosDan said:
We do need to separate them. Fox has some decent hard news shows. I like Shep Smith and Chris Wallace. If pundits were giving more hard facts along with their opinions people could probably tell the difference better. I’ve also noticed on Fox that they very often blur the lines between opinion and news, having a series of guests and discussions on news shows that are just someone offering an opinion. I suppose the other networks do as well because sensationalizing or just opinions and discussions are cheaper to do than investigative journalism.

I agree. Shep is good, Chris Wallace can be good sometimes (he did well vetting the 2010 candidates), Megyn Kelly is becoming better but not quite there yet although I like Bill Hemmer the best. That’s what a straight news journalist should be.

Miss-information goes way back. The good book says; “Whoa be to the man that speaks with a perverse mouth, even the Indian would say; “white man speaks with a forked tongue”, During this day and age, you don’t need to be white or a man, you only need to be human and look no farther than Radio and Television to find some of the best Prevaricators that money can buy. That is if you like living high on the hog and don’t give a darn about the life here after.

uggugg said:
Miss-information goes way back.

Joe McCarthy was fond of saying that he could say whatever he wanted and count on the media to print it (and not fact check it) and people to believe it.

CosmosDan said:
I remember seeing a few videos of people being asked questions at a Tea Party rally and at Glenn’s DC rally, and a lot of people are pissed and can only give you generalities on why, some outright incorrect. I remember the man at the mike telling some folks that Obama had cut taxes for working folks and they just didn’t believe him.

And we saw that sort of stuff at Jon Stewart’s rally, too. Just pointing that out.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-comedy-group-yank-obama-keynesian-video-after-beck-radiotv-exposure/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzJ9DQZrxvA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMq1R-64Qc&feature=player_embedded

Clearly Fox News has their own bend on what is going on in the world today, but seriously, are we to believe that the rest of the networks don’t? Are we to believe that for years we weren’t fed what the major networks and CNN had to offer and all that without a single challenger? Kudos to Fox news for bringing in a different spin and kudos to those that would take what they hear and draw their own conclusions regardless of what media outlet they get their info from.

paulmdoro said:
Joe McCarthy was fond of saying that he could say whatever he wanted and count on the media to print it (and not fact check it) and people to believe it.

A book for you:

http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/1400081068/ref=pd_sim_b_1

Unbelieveable! This has the Rah-Rah boys going mad! LOL Hey, this has been a laugh a minute!! hehe

Calvin said:
A book for you:

http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/1400081068/ref=pd_sim_b_1

What does this have to do with the fact that McCarthy himself liked to say that he enjoyed feeding lies to the media because they would print whatever he said?

Fact: studies of FoxNews bias/misinformation is a good 7+ years old

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies#Reports.2C_polls.2C_surveys_and_studies)

But, it’s also important to point out like others have before: Americans are pretty stupid and fat as a whole population. And, judging by who is breeding at high frequencies, the film “Idiocracy” may very well be our future.

Wonder how much NBC paid these “so called” researchers to FIND enough DemoRATS to give them this majority. We know NBC, ABC OR CBS HAD to find someone to take their side. IF you want to keep up with the TRUTHFUL News that is given to us by FOX, you KNOW what is exactly going on that the Government does NOT want us to know. The NBC, ABC and CBS could disappear from my TV and I wouldn’t miss their DEMORATIC baloney one bit. We no only get the Political news we get news of everything happening in the USA all day and evening. Whoever those jokers are, To He!! with you. Why don’t you come to realize the best and most inforative news DOES come from FoxNews, FoxBusiness and all other Fox stations all over the USA!

Plus, come on, the author writes for Human Events.

As More Liberty said, the election of Obama does give some credence to the notion that many Americans aren’t that bright.

CosmosDan said:
I remember seeing a few videos of people being asked questions at a Tea Party rally and at Glenn’s DC rally, and a lot of people are pissed and can only give you generalities on why, some outright incorrect. I remember the man at the mike telling some folks that Obama had cut taxes for working folks and they just didn’t believe him.

Kinda like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02KvD4DvX9c

writer said:
As More Liberty said, the election of Obama does give some credence to the notion that many Americans aren’t that bright.

So does the reelection of Bush. Both sides will always claim that a result they don’t like is proof that lots of people are dumb.

Pablo Sepulveda said:
Clearly Fox News has their own bend on what is going on in the world today, but seriously, are we to believe that the rest of the networks don’t? Are we to believe that for years we weren’t fed what the major networks and CNN had to offer and all that without a single challenger? Kudos to Fox news for bringing in a different spin and kudos to those that would take what they hear and draw their own conclusions regardless of what media outlet they get their info from.

Fox view is more than a “Bend” it is propaganda and misinformation. There is a large difference there. They will flat out lie to you and never admit they said anything wrong or incorrect. There is a LARGE difference there. They will get EVERYONE on every show saying the same thing. THERE IS A LARGE DIFFERENCE THERE. Repetition enforces the propaganda to the Fox viewers. That is why the viewer’s think what they are hearing is true and based on fact, reality being spin and lies. This is how they brain wash and they are very good at it.

Correction, “Reality being spun and lies”

Yeah, paul. Both sides piss on our boots and tell us it’s a rainstorm. The only thing ‘dumb’ is believing that only one side does it.

People watch Faux News for a reason: it reinforces what they want to believe. That isn’t about to change.

writer said:
Yeah, paul. Both sides piss on our boots and tell us it’s a rainstorm. The only thing ‘dumb’ is believing that only one side does it.

Indeed. I agree 110%.

Maggie Denson said:
Wonder how much NBC paid these “so called” researchers to FIND enough DemoRATS to give them this majority. We know NBC, ABC OR CBS HAD to find someone to take their side. IF you want to keep up with the TRUTHFUL News that is given to us by FOX, you KNOW what is exactly going on that the Government does NOT want us to know. The NBC, ABC and CBS could disappear from my TV and I wouldn’t miss their DEMORATIC baloney one bit. We no only get the Political news we get news of everything happening in the USA all day and evening. Whoever those jokers are, To He!! with you. Why don’t you come to realize the best and most inforative news DOES come from FoxNews, FoxBusiness and all other Fox stations all over the USA!

OMG your really a sick person. Way too far gone for help. sad.. sad

paulmdoro said:
Indeed. I agree 110%.

NO buddy does it better an more twisted then Fox… and thats a fact! lol

writer said:
As More Liberty said, the election of Obama does give some credence to the notion that many Americans aren’t that bright.

And what does the support and consistent defense of Palin and Limbaugh say? What about the fact that these people buy everything that comes out of Glenn Beck’s mouth?

Linda said:
NO buddy does it better an more twisted then Fox… and thats a fact! lol

Personally I don’t think any of the cable news channels is better than the others, but that’s just me.

CosmosDan said:
You’d better tell Glenn and Stu since they seemed to believe them. There seems to be a bad habit forming of just tossing out any fact you don’t like by claiming the source is biased. Even biased sources get some of the facts right, and even biased people can have some interest in being factual and truthful. If we dismiss every source that we believe may be biased without checking it out we won’t have many sources left.

Aren’t you being just a bit more than generously disengeuous? They NEVER brought this poll up until called on their OFF HAND statement by “I hate Americans” Zakarius? They used it to stave off calls later that the poll was biased or whatever folks like GBR would come screaching out of the woodwork to bitch about.

Really dude.

Calvin said:
And we saw that sort of stuff at Jon Stewart’s rally, too. Just pointing that out.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-comedy-group-yank-obama-keynesian-video-after-beck-radiotv-exposure/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzJ9DQZrxvA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMq1R-64Qc&feature=player_embedded

Sure. I’m think the general public on both sides tend to not be factually informed and are running on a lot of impressions and emotions.
The Obama =Keynesian thing keeps getting mentioned and I think that proves nothing. People are stupid because they misread a sign after the issue of Obama’s family being from Kenya was in the news about a 1000 times more than any mention of Keynesian economics. Of course. Do you think Beck’s rally would have gotten that right?
Way before Stewart’s rally, when those Beck videos first hit I realized how easy it would be to edit a days worth of questions to make a group look stupid if that was your goal. They don’t prove anything.
That 2nd one , Steven Crowder . Not too much bias in his tone huh? I turned it off after he said the very name
Rally to Restore Sanity implies that the Tea Party or Beck’s fans are not sane. That’s bullshit. Anyone who followed the rally and Stewart knows that’s not true. The name is about restoring sanity to political dialogue and maybe being a little more factual , less exaggeration and hyperbole, and not giving the most extreme voices all the attention just for ratings. It’s pointing at politicians and all the media, not just Beck and the Tea Party.
The 2nd one seemed like a joke rather than any point. It was the day before Halloween and Colbert had asked people to come in costume. It was actually pretty cool. He commented that the crowd was mostly white. Not that it’s crucial but I’m thinking it was far less white than Beck’s rally, and the fact is America is mostly white. Jon S mentioned that the mix was probably similar to America’s population. I saw people of all races and ages there
The only way to be reasonably fair in that kind of setting is to tape a set number of video interviews 50 to 100, and then spend some time analyzing them, or just post them all for people to judge. Those montages like that are meaningless.

paulmdoro said:
Personally I don’t think any of the cable news channels is better than the others, but that’s just me.

paulmdoro said:
Personally I don’t think any of the cable news channels is better than the others, but that’s just me.

I misjudged you and I am sorry for everything I said while in misjudging mode.

You may be more liberal than me but you certainly seem to be a straight shooter and not the flamethrower I pre-judged you to be.

My bad.

Oh, and I definitely think someone could be moderate and oppose this admin. I’m not very happy with them myself and I’m a left leaning moderate. I just haven’t seen the GOP offer anything significantly better.

VoiceofReason said:
I misjudged you and I am sorry for everything I said while in misjudging mode.

You may be more liberal than me but you certainly seem to be a straight shooter and not the flamethrower I pre-judged you to be.

My bad.

Hey no problem. Water under the bridge.

Scott_in_MI said:
how bout some examples?

How much more proof do you need? lol

paulmdoro said:
Hey no problem. Water under the bridge.

Thank you. Not only even handed but gracious.

Have a good weekend.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Fact, I could do a study today and find that a majority of the people I poll think Elvis is still alive. FOX is #1 and the libs can’t stand it!!

At what? Spreading lies and disinformation? Because they surely aren’t giving their viewers the truth they claim they do. The facts speak for themselves: Faux viewers are a bunch of dumbass losers.

VoiceofReason said:
Thank you. Not only even handed but gracious.

Have a good weekend.

My pleasure. I appreciate the gesture. You have a good weekend too.

VoiceofReason said:
Aren’t you being just a bit more than generously disengeuous? They NEVER brought this poll up until called on their OFF HAND statement by “I hate Americans” Zakarius? They used it to stave off calls later that the poll was biased or whatever folks like GBR would come screaching out of the woodwork to bitch about.

Really dude.

You’re going to have to clarify this for me.

Someone here said the organization that produced this poll was very left leaning and it should be basically ignored and I pointed out that it’s the same organization Beck and Stu used.

Other than that I was making a general observation about postings in the past couple of weeks. Some posters on both the left and right just summarily dismiss a source based on perceived bias and never address the meat of the discussion or bother to refute the information.
Certainly some healthy skepticism based on source is wise but rather than dismiss it completely and avoid possibly learning something, check it out.
Media Matters and Huffington Post are obviously biased but that doesn’t mean they never get any facts right. Forget the slanted analysis if you want but at least address the facts.
I’m no Beck fan but I know he gets some facts right. Same with Limbaugh. But that’s about a general trend in posting I’ve noticed and not specifically about this subject. okay

paulmdoro said:
Personally I don’t think any of the cable news channels is better than the others, but that’s just me.

There not! The only station that I know of that is truly “Fair and Balanced” is PBS and local stations. Cable stations are Infotainment and some REALLY stretch the truth. Some don’t, FOX does.

writer said:
Yeah, paul. Both sides piss on our boots and tell us it’s a rainstorm. The only thing ‘dumb’ is believing that only one side does it.

agreed.

VoiceofReason said:
Thank you. Not only even handed but gracious. Have a good weekend.

Nice to see a conversation taking place on this blog! Brovo!

paulmdoro said:
I think it’s getting harder and harder for the major cable news networks to convince people that there is a separation. These channels are identified by their opinion people. The opinion people make the news. The networks don’t do much to dissuade this. They care about ratings and connecting with their demos more than they care about convincing people that there is a difference between the news broadcasts and the opinion shows.

Right. Even the news on most networks is made up of guests offereing news analysis which amounts to opinion. It’s fine if your guest is a real expert but often they aren’t.

More Liberty said:
And hence the election of Obama.

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!

Funny thing is once again right wing ignorance is shown by the fact they think I like Obama….or I’m a woman.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Ha ha ha the denial by the Reich Wingers is delicious.

Ha, Godwin’s Law strikes again and so quickly but the lemmings are in a feeding frenzy.

Penguin60 said:
Ha, Godwin’s Law strikes again and so quickly but the lemmings are in a feeding frenzy.

Wow why am I not surprised?

Linda said:
Fox view is more than a “Bend” it is propaganda and misinformation. There is a large difference there. They will flat out lie to you and never admit they said anything wrong or incorrect. There is a LARGE difference there. They will get EVERYONE on every show saying the same thing. THERE IS A LARGE DIFFERENCE THERE. Repetition enforces the propaganda to the Fox viewers. That is why the viewer’s think what they are hearing is true and based on fact, reality being spin and lies. This is how they brain wash and they are very good at it.

This is NO DIFFERENT than any other news outlet does and has been doing for DECADES. I stand by my statement and it is still just a “bend” unless folks make it MORE than that. PERIOD.

Avid FNC viewers will never come to terms with the fact that they are more misinformed…BECAUSE they are misinformed (rather a Dunning-Kruger effect). And as the study suggests, there is also a cumulative effect.

But, they sure are amusing…especially the way they recite FNC catch-phrases so frequently, like good little conditioned rodents.

Fact: Advocacy of progressivism, aka liberalism, as the provenance of democracy and economic security for all, should have cited the city of Detroit which has had such a government for about 40 years.

Fact: Once known as The Arsenal of Democracy, the home of GM, Chrysler and Ford as well as the UAW and CIO. In the ’50s and ’60s it was cited for its wide distribution of wealth.
In addition to great weather, California is also deeply involved in progressivism
Fact: You can keep yours and the Researchers at the University of Maryland Soros funded Poll and I will laugh it up again on your behalf in November 2012 and Fox news poll any day!

quiet hugo, nonpartisan hardball is on

And what does the support and consistent defense of Palin and Limbaugh say?

That people on the right and left tend to agree with the people who agree with them?

avoidswork said:
Fact: studies of FoxNews bias/misinformation is a good 7+ years old

Fact: Dah Huh?????

CosmosDan said:
Sure. I’m think the general public on both sides tend to not be factually informed and are running on a lot of impressions and emotions.
The Obama =Keynesian thing keeps getting mentioned and I think that proves nothing. People are stupid because they misread a sign after the issue of Obama’s family being from Kenya was in the news about a 1000 times more than any mention of Keynesian economics. Of course. Do you think Beck’s rally would have gotten that right?

Probably not. I would know, though, and you would know.

CosmosDan said:
Way before Stewart’s rally, when those Beck videos first hit I realized how easy it would be to edit a days worth of questions to make a group look stupid if that was your goal. They don’t prove anything.

Agreed.

CosmosDan said:
That 2nd one , Steven Crowder . Not too much bias in his tone huh? I turned it off after he said the very name
Rally to Restore Sanity implies that the Tea Party or Beck’s fans are not sane. That’s bullshit. Anyone who followed the rally and Stewart knows that’s not true. The name is about restoring sanity to political dialogue and maybe being a little more factual , less exaggeration and hyperbole, and not giving the most extreme voices all the attention just for ratings. It’s pointing at politicians and all the media, not just Beck and the Tea Party.

Come on, the rally would’ve never happened if Beck didn’t have a rally first. Isn’t Colbert’s character supposed to be a parody of a right-winger or something? And what side did he represent? Fear? Wasn’t the title of the rally “The Rally to Restore Sanity/Fear”? What was the title of Beck’s even, again? Do you really think the majority of people were just equally pissed at MSNBC and Fox? Wasn’t there a bunch of anti-beck, anti-fox, and anti-tea party signs? Stewart’s speech was admirable even though it was a speech to cover his ass. Do you really think Stewart would want to come out and say this is the rally to beat Glenn Beck?

Calling Stewart’s event a “Rally to Restore Sanity” should provoke contempt from those aware of the issues behind this election, rather than laughter. There is nothing sane about wild, unsustainable deficit spending, or the deliberate destruction of the health-insurance industry to further a political agenda. There is nothing sane about the spectacle of a comedian intervening to protect an incompetent, power-hungry President from judgment by voters he openly derides as stupid and uninformed.

Pick your favorite flavor of madness, and you’ll find it displayed by this President. Obama was recently diagnosed with delusions of shovel-ready jobs. There is abundant evidence of megalomania – “I won,” the difference between grabbing control of health care in 2009 vs. 1994 is “you have me,” etc. When he asked for more stimulus money, after squandering and stealing over $800 billion, he was filling Einstein’s famous definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again, while expecting different results.
The President’s paranoia is evident through his repeated tendency to describe opponents, and even inconvenient citizens, as incarnations of evil. Everyone who questions him is ignorant, violent, racist, or un-American. Those who challenge him, from the health-care town halls of 2009 to today, are nothing but the tools of sinister corporate interests – defined as any special interest that doesn’t give Obama bags of campaign money.

His tendency toward projection is pathological. He rails against American business while shifting his coat to conceal a pocketful of checks from Goldman-Sachs. His other pockets are stuffed with a variety of foreign currencies, the kind of money he damns the Chamber of Commerce for taking. Under pressure, the President reverts to infancy with frightening speed, desperately blaming all his problems on a predecessor who quietly retired two years ago.

Obama’s Party is equally insane. From frothing lunatics like Alan Grayson… to shameless liars like Dick Blumenthal, Barney Frank, and Chris Coons… to Patty Murray – the idiot who said Osama bin Laden has been “making lives better” by “building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, and building health-care facilities” – the Democrat Party is brimming with people mentally unfit to come anywhere near the halls of Congress. Every public utterance of Democrat leaders Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi makes it seem as if they just arrived from an alternate dimension, and would bleed mercury if their skin was cut.

The Republicans have an ample supply of loons as well. It has been the sober determination of the Republican base, not the lazy sarcasm of hip comedians, which plucked so many nuts from their Party mix during the primaries.

Nationalizing industries is crazy. Passing thousand-page bills based on deliberately falsified deficit projections is crazy. Passing those bills without even reading them is crazy. Racking up a $13 trillion national debt is crazy. Accepting 10% unemployment as the “new normal” is crazy. Dropping gigantic tax increases on a recessionary economy is crazy. Fleeing Washington without even voting on those tax increases is crazy.
Paying serious attention to a rally “Oprahturfed” by billionaire entertainers and liberal activists, as if it represented some outpouring of popular support for the lunatic agenda of this President, would be completely nuts. Enjoy your afternoon on the Mall, Mr. Stewart. There will be a much bigger Rally to Restore Sanity on November 2nd.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/10/17/restoring-sanity/

CosmosDan said:
The 2nd one seemed like a joke rather than any point. It was the day before Halloween and Colbert had asked people to come in costume. It was actually pretty cool. He commented that the crowd was mostly white. Not that it’s crucial but I’m thinking it was far less white than Beck’s rally, and the fact is America is mostly white. Jon S mentioned that the mix was probably similar to America’s population. I saw people of all races and ages there
The only way to be reasonably fair in that kind of setting is to tape a set number of video interviews 50 to 100, and then spend some time analyzing them, or just post them all for people to judge. Those montages like that are meaningless.

Did you mean the 3rd one? The ReasonTV one? That crowd was pretty white. Probably just as white as the crowd at Restoring Honor. You say it was far less, but I think not. Maybe less white, but not far less. Neither of us have statistics on how white the rallies were, but admit it: Stewart’s rally was pretty dang white. And there was a lot of stupid people in that video, too. Just like there was in the Beck videos. Like you said, it’s easy to make videos like that.

If those montages are meanigless, why’d you bring them up in the first place? The only reason I’m pointing them out is to show that it happens on both sides.

avoidswork said:
Americans are pretty stupid and fat as a whole population.

Fact: MSM or your poll stated that? Looks to me you’re another liberal stuck in stupid! I know it’s the coward Olbermann told you so! He is a good one that informs. He is so informed that he closed down for Christmas for you since you and your kind of handout grubbing kleptomaniacs are so informed so informed already with all the facts. HO HO HO…

Dave Noland said:
Confirmation of what we already know

Yes, that you are an idiot.

ImNotBlue said:
For example: “The economy is getting worse (26 points)”

That’s an opinion. Someone who reads certain facts one way, may build the conclusion that we’re getting better

Wrong. The economy got worse with BHO is a fact. For the study people to say that it did not get worse shows their bias and race from reality.

Fact: the unemployment rate is 9.8%
Fact : More foreclosures than ever:

Foreclosures predicted to beat last year’s record setting number
August 23, 2010 4:01 AM
New home sales drop 12.4% to record low
chart_new_home_sales.top.gif By Hibah Yousuf, staff reporterAugust 25, 2010: 11:34 AM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — New home sales unexpectedly fell in July to the lowest level on record as the housing market continued to suffer from the end of the homebuyer tax credit boost.”

Fact: Record people living on welfare.

“Record number in government anti-poverty programs
Updated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand.”

Fact:Record people living at or below the poverty level.

Record number of Americans living in poverty
•

MSNBC.com
September 16, 2010
Record number of Americans living in poverty
Census Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a year
WASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday.”

And the University of Maryland thinks the economy has improved or stayed the same since BHO came into office?

LOL

Who are these ignorant people who conducted the study? The lab monkeys?

Fax4Just: I turn on the TV, I walk outside and listen to “reasonable” debate from the “fair and balanced” kinds. Of course, you could do some research and see that we are an obese nation. You could see that even our top college undergrads are ranked lower than other nations. You could see our high school children are ranked MUCH lower than other nations. You could research where the USA rates on health care for its citizens, which other countries we group with militarily that also ban homosexuality in their armies. You could turn on your TV and watch Criminal Minds, American Idol, Jersey Shore, I Didn’t Know I was Pregnant, etc. We are heading the way of “Idiocracy”.

Fact: I don’t watch MSNBC, CNN, FNC, etc. If I watch news on TV it is either local or PBS. I don’t read HuffPo or DailyKos or Media Matters. Kinda ruins your narrative, doesn’t it?

Fact: I linked a Wiki referring to other studies regarding the veracity of Fox News. You obviously didn’t check it out or read it. But that would also ruin your narrative. Correct?

Here’s one better: find some polling data that shows FNC viewers are BETTER informed. Link it here. May the force be with you on that one!

Fact: University Of North Carolina has a study poll that tobacco doesn’t cause cancer and is good in preventing Alzheimer’s and MSMBC viewers are the most uninformed study shows of all networks! That’s a fact and that’s why they still get subsidies! Give me another comedy channel news thread and I wil give you mine!

avoidswork said:
Link it here. May the force be with you on that one!

Fact: You again mesmerized yourself and left of your link dipstick! That’s a fair and balanced statement for you!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: You again mesmerized yourself and left of your link dipstick! That’s a fair and balanced statement for you!

Did we really need a poll to tell us this? I mean look at this racist dumb shit Just4thefax. The guy is an unemployed white supremacist. The job in fact requires zero brain power. I rest my case.

Maggie Denson said:
Wonder how much NBC paid these “so called” researchers to FIND enough DemoRATS to give them this majority. We know NBC, ABC OR CBS HAD to find someone to take their side. IF you want to keep up with the TRUTHFUL News that is given to us by FOX, you KNOW what is exactly going on that the Government does NOT want us to know. The NBC, ABC and CBS could disappear from my TV and I wouldn’t miss their DEMORATIC baloney one bit. We no only get the Political news we get news of everything happening in the USA all day and evening. Whoever those jokers are, To He!! with you. Why don’t you come to realize the best and most inforative news DOES come from FoxNews, FoxBusiness and all other Fox stations all over the USA!

Looks like we’ve found one of the poll participants.

This is interesting. I’d recommend you guys watch Media Malpractice which goes into exhaustive detail to illustrate how the mainstream media got Obama elected. I remember the love affair but seeing the movie (which is available on Netflix and Xbox Live) brought it all back and then some. I learned some stuff I did not know before. If you’re a Hilary Clinton fan you definitely need to see the video. Also, as we now have President Obama, who has been an abject failure given his lofty goals, we can now see why.

The mainstream media did not want to properly fet Obama and instead chose to focus on Sarah Palin. Why, she was just going to be Vice! Obama was perhaps the least vetted candidate of all time and we’re now seeing why that’s a problem. That’s the true story regarding media bias and misinformation. Americans, in general are misinformed. Fox just has more viewers. I’m a Ron Paul libertarian so I voted for neither McCain or Obama as I knew they’d both screw us.

Oh and those questions this “study” asked were hilarious. Who’s deciding what is and is not the right answer? How can you factually know what MOST ECONOMISTS think? I ONLY listen to Austrian economists as Keynesians are ALWAYS wrong. Those questions, for the most part are partisan hack questions from the progressives in order to make conservatives look misinformed more than anything. Haha.. anyway. As I said above, the American people in general are misinformed… Especially those who vote only Democrat/Republican.

btimsah,

I think you are referring to Obama voters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

Just4thefax said:
Fact: You again mesmerized yourself and left of your link dipstick! That’s a fair and balanced statement for you!

Scroll up to icon Paul the Octopus on the Spanish National Flag. There is a name next to it, “avoidswork”. See time stamp 3:53p. Link to Wiki regarding FNC. Poll regarding Americans as “stupid”, not linked. There are many studies over many subjects that have shown our recent decline.

Do some of your own frakkin’ research for a change instead of whining about it not always being spoon-fed to you. Oh, wait, an FNC viewer. May be unaccustomed to doing your own research… Not going to help you out on this one. No hand holding, no sippie cup, blankie or soothing story.

I used “Teh Google” and immediately found an Oct. 23rd 2010 poll regarding obesity statistics. To also obtain, go to “www.google.com” (Google is a Search Engine, btw) There is a Search function. Try “Americans more obsese than other nations”. See what comes up.

Kindly learn to spell and/or utilize grammar in a better fashion. I didn’t leave “of” link, I left “off” the link. Two “f” characters, not one.

Finally, the use of “dipstick” reveals your age/generation. I bet you also think I am a man without a job, right?

Fox News senior vice president for news Michael Clemente has responded to the study ….

“The latest Princeton Review ranked the University of Maryland among the top schools for having ‘Students Who Study The Least’ and being the ‘Best Party School’ – given these fine academic distinctions, we’ll regard the study with the same level of veracity it was ‘researched’ with,” Clemente said.

“For the record, the Princeton Review says the University of Maryland ranks among the ‘Best Northeastern Colleges,” Stelter notes. “It was No. 19 on the Review’s list of ‘Best Party Schools.’”

LOL at Fox using false facts to prove it doesn’t use false facts!!!

No the Foxbaggers will repeat the lie, “Hey, Maryland has the NUMBER ONE PARTY SCHOOL!!!”

And their stupidity grows. :)

SarahP said:
really need a poll

Fact: I have no idea why you like the pole so much?

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Advocacy of progressivism, aka liberalism, as the provenance of democracy and economic security for all, should have cited the city of Detroit which has had such a government for about 40 years.

Fact: Once known as The Arsenal of Democracy, the home of GM, Chrysler and Ford as well as the UAW and CIO. In the ’50s and ’60s it was cited for its wide distribution of wealth.
In addition to great weather, California is also deeply involved in progressivism
Fact: You can keep yours and the Researchers at the University of Maryland Soros funded Poll and I will laugh it up again on your behalf in November 2012 and Fox news poll any day!

Very nice cut and paste from Wikipedia.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: I have no idea why you like the pole so much?

I don’t know, why do people like you insist on wearing a hood?

btimsah said:
Oh and those questions this “study” asked were hilarious. Who’s deciding what is and is not the right answer? How can you factually know what MOST ECONOMISTS think? … Those questions, for the most part are partisan hack questions from the progressives in order to make conservatives look misinformed more than anything.

And, yet, look how it’s being misrepresented, and the left is lapping it up! Oh, the irony.

Re: “…regardless of one’s point of you…”

Don’t you mean “one’s point of VIEW”?

avoidswork said:
Finally, the use of “dipstick” reveals your age/generation. I bet you also think I am a man without a job, right?

Fact: If box ‘A’ has five viewers and they were told that shit doesn’t stink! That should equal five uninformed viewers! ‘A’ viewers equals all other stations ‘Aviewers’ combined!
Fact: If box ‘B’ have two hundred viewers and they were told that shit doesn’t stink! That should equal two hundred uninformed viewers! ‘B’ viewers’ equals all Fox ’B viewers’ combined!
Now The University of Maryland conducts a study to which viewers are the most uninformed? What the fuck is the answer asshole? Come on you need help Google for the fucking answer!

SarahP said:
I don’t know, why do people like you insist on wearing a hood?

Fact: quit humping my leg dog!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: If box ‘A’ has five viewers and they were told that shit doesn’t stink! That should equal five uninformed viewers! ‘A’ viewers equals all other stations ‘Aviewers’ combined!
Fact: If box ‘B’ have two hundred viewers and they were told that shit doesn’t stink! That should equal two hundred uninformed viewers! ‘B’ viewers’ equals all Fox ’B viewers’ combined!
Now The University of Maryland conducts a study to which viewers are the most uninformed? What the fuck is the answer asshole? Come on you need help Google for the fucking answer!

Evidently you do you fucking racist moron. Good Christ if you were included in this study you’d drag the average down so low you’d think Fox viewers were vegetables. Like you asshole.

SarahP said:
Evidently you do you fucking racist moron. Good Christ if you were included in this study you’d drag the average down so low you’d think Fox viewers were vegetables. Like you asshole.

Fact: Pucker up next time you want to bring up my asshole!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Pucker up next time you want to bring up my asshole!

Maybe you can get one of the guys at storm front to pucker up? What do you think, it is Friday night after all. Good luck!!

You do know that Hitler was gay don’t you?

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Americans for the most part are ignorant and stupid

That’s what typical LigProgs think about America. No wonder only 20% of Americans identify themselves as LibProgs. Thank God it’s only 20% and shrinking.

shit maybe DADT should stay inplace huh

SmartAlec said:
That’s what typical LigProgs think about America. No wonder only 20% of Americans identify themselves as LibProgs. Thank God it’s only 20% and shrinking.

Wrong again alec…what’s new?

So, just4thefax, just so we are clear:

–no responding to what myself and others are commenting on
–bringing up random things (without a link, no less)
–sounding worse each time

I admittedly was derisive and condescending in my last post to you (esp. regarding Google), but I have yet to hear you offer an alternative to FoxNews viewers being less informed. Your “A” and “B” comparison did not achieve such. You don’t offer alternatives to my assertion that Americans are more obese than other nations, more educated when compared to other nations, etc.

Finally, since your handle is “Just4thefax”, wouldn’t it be more *wink wink* if you said “Fax: ….” vs. “Fact:”?

—-

SmartAlec:

We think it about America because, sadly, it’s true. And it is become more true/clear as time rolls on. Do I like this? No. It’s quite saddening that a larger % of our population is anti-science, anti-evolution, anti-”elitist” and the like. They offer no alternatives and seem to have pride/boast about driving gas-guzzlers, pollulting the air, the earth and our food (anti-FDA and protection). They think “teh gays” are a worse problem for us than ACTUAL problems. They (erroneously) think the USA was founded as a Christian Nation and are okay with the Texas State Board of Education decimating our textbooks.

I wish people wanted more for themselves than an LCD they can’t afford, an extended cab truck they can’t afford, a fugly Coach purse they can’t afford and the right to eat as much crap as they want (and don’t dare allow government to make school food healthier”). I wish they wanted to learn about the world we inhabit, take care of each other, respect each other through similarities and differences and try to make this world/planet a better place for future generations. Sadly, they don’t.

SarahP said:
Wrong again alec…what’s new?

Yawn…

avoidswork said:
SmartAlec:
We think it about America because, sadly, it’s true. And it is become more true/clear as time rolls on. Do I like this? No. It’s quite saddening

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

SmartAlec said:
Yawn…

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

Yawn….zzzzzzzzzz. Not an original thought in that small pea sized brain of yours is there?

SarahP said:
Yawn….zzzzzzzzzz. Not an original thought in that small pea sized brain of yours is there?

Not when I fall asleep reading drivel.

I’m dreaming of the real Sarah…leave me alone.

SmartAlec said:
I’m dreaming of the real Sarah…leave me alone.

I have no doubt about that.

Citizens like like you, obviously ignorant to the bone, are the reason the national IQ has dropped drastically. Rather than eating chocolate covered cherries all day, have you thought about a GED?

Anyone who gets all their news for one source is likely going to be misinformed, whether it’s Fox, MSNBC, NY Times, whatever. You have to be willing to go to at least half a dozen sources these days just to have a starting point on deciphering what is closest to being factual. People who rely on only one source are usually those who want their beliefs reinforced, not those who are interested in the truth.

SarahP said:
I have no doubt about that. Citizens like like you, obviously ignorant to the bone, are the reason the national IQ has dropped drastically. Rather than eating chocolate covered cherries all day, have you thought about a GED?

SarahP~ doubt he’d eat it. cherries are, like, healthy and stuff. ChocoBacon, totally.

SmartAlec — give me a blurb about how Americans aren’t downgrading into “Idiocracy” territory? Easy to say “yawn”, but I don’t throw my assessment as an off-the cuff remark. I offered some reasons for my assessment. After shooting a wad over the RealSarah, why not wash your hands, zip up your pants, and offer a defense of “real” Americans?

Calvin said:
Come on, the rally would’ve never happened if Beck didn’t have a rally first. Isn’t Colbert’s character supposed to be a parody of a right-winger or something? And what side did he represent? Fear? Wasn’t the title of the rally “The Rally to Restore Sanity/Fear”? What was the title of Beck’s even, again?

Maybe not. I’m not sure when the idea came to them. After Beck’s rally Colbert’s fans started a petition for him to have one called Rally to Restore Truthiness and soon after that they announced it. It really took off considering they only had a few weeks. Jon mentioned something on the show that made me think he had been considering it before then. Ir wasn’t as if it was an original Beck idea right? It may have been the hype for Beck’s rally that got Jon to thinking but the idea that his was a RESPONSE to Beck’s simply isn’t true. IMO.

Calvin said:
Do you really think the majority of people were just equally pissed at MSNBC and Fox? Wasn’t there a bunch of anti-beck, anti-fox, and anti-tea party signs? Stewart’s speech was admirable even though it was a speech to cover his ass. Do you really think Stewart would want to come out and say this is the rally to beat Glenn Beck?

No. Jon obviously leans left and a whole lot of people thought of it as a rally for the left vs. right {Beck’s} but Jon consistently said it wasn’t, and promoted it as a rally to promote more reasonable discourse about issues vs the hyperbole of DC and the media. It’s been a long running theme of his show. I frequented the web sites about the rally all the time before the event. Lot’s of people understood what Jon was saying and quite a few did not and clearly saw it as a rally for the left. Yes, there were some anti Fox, and Anti Tea Party signs there, but far more signs about Jon’s overall theme as well as just funny stuff. Jon’s speech was in no way to cover his ass. It wasn’t in competition with Beck any more than his show competes with Beck or Beck was competing with MLK by picking that day. . It was just an offering for their fans and his show in rally form. I’ve been a fan for some time and everything I’ve seen and read about Jon is consistent. It;s his show so naturally the show reflects his liberal leanings but he has constantly said that the news media , who should be informing us and educating us about relevant issues isn’t doing their job and neither are our leaders. Instead of informative and factual rational information it’s exaggeration and sensationalism, in both. That’s completely consistent with the rally and it’s overall message.

Calvin said:
Calling Stewart’s event a “Rally to Restore Sanity” should provoke contempt from those aware of the issues behind this election, rather than laughter. There is nothing sane about wild, unsustainable deficit spending, or the deliberate destruction of the health-insurance industry to further a political agenda. There is nothing sane about the spectacle of a comedian intervening to protect an incompetent, power-hungry President from judgment by voters he openly derides as stupid and uninformed.

Calvin, IMO that web site is partisan bullshit because they completely miss and misrepresent the message of the rally, and Jon doesn’t provide cover for Obama simply because he doesn’t hate him as much as the author does. It’s just a opinionated rant,
Jon doesn’t use being a comic as cover. He simply points out the fact that you shouldn’t expect or compare his show , a fake news comedy show, to be fair and balanced , but maybe we should expect Fox and other news shows to be. We should;t expect his show to be informative and fact filled, but maybe we ought to expect that from our news media. Make sense?

Calvin said:
Did you mean the 3rd one? The ReasonTV one? That crowd was pretty white. Probably just as white as the crowd at Restoring Honor. You say it was far less, but I think not. Maybe less white, but not far less. Neither of us have statistics on how white the rallies were, but admit it: Stewart’s rally was pretty dang white.

Sure. White America is about 73% or so of our population , about 12% are black, about 4% Asian There are more Latinos than blacks but their countries vary , Jon S ,mentioned that he thought the break down at the rally was similar to America’s population but you’re right we don’t have statistics. I personally saw all those groups as well as different ages in my little section of 200,000 plus people. Diversity is great but if we’re talking about principles like honesty, personal liberty, and justice, the racial breakdown doesn’t really matter. Those principles are universal.
Just for contrast here’s a very bias web site from the left. Just check your gut reaction to this, and think of it when you post a right wing blog to me.
http://www.examiner.com/barack-obama-legacy-in-national/glenn-beck-s-rally-won-t-restore-honor-it-will-continue-racism
I have a hard time reading through anything too obviously biased hoping they have a point and some facts somewhere.

Calvin said:
If those montages are meanigless, why’d you bring them up in the first place?

Two things. To point out that the media isn’t doing a good job of informing people of facts, and Obama’s tax break was mentioned in the survey and in the video I saw. But, I’d agree that there are plenty of people on both sides that are uninformed about the details and both the left and right media is doing a bad job.

LarryB said:
Anyone who gets all their news for one source is likely going to be misinformed, whether it’s Fox, MSNBC, NY Times, whatever. You have to be willing to go to at least half a dozen sources these days just to have a starting point on deciphering what is closest to being factual. People who rely on only one source are usually those who want their beliefs reinforced, not those who are interested in the truth.

This

It takes a real effort to sort the facts from the spin on both sides.

SarahP said:
Wrong again alec…what’s new?

How am I wrong anyway? My statement is only part opinion. Show me where Liberals or Progs are more than 20% of US.

SarahP said:
I have no doubt about that. Citizens like like you, obviously ignorant to the bone, are the reason the national IQ has dropped drastically. Rather than eating chocolate covered cherries all day, have you thought about a GED?

Already have all the degrees I need. Criminal Justice major.

avoidswork said:
After shooting a wad over the RealSarah, why not wash your hands, zip up your pants,

So the tweak worked!

avoidswork said:
but I don’t throw my assessment as an off-the cuff remark. I offered some reasons for my assessment.

Ok, I read your post again.
Let me just say this….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Not exactly on the subject of misinformed but I had to laugh at Stephen Colbert busting Fox and Friends for reporting another totally untrue story so they could ride the war on Christmas hype.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/368380/december-13-2010/blitzkrieg-on-grinchitude—gretchen-carlson—christian-nation-christ-mas-tree

Fair and Balanced and occasionally just made up.

Sometimes Colbert is too much for me to take but was great, thanks for sharing.

I wonder how many questions they asked and how they chose the questions. Do they explain the process? Also, I thought liberals loved exposing bias in testing. Just like they like denigrating the validity of IQ tests (unless of course it can help save Tyrone from the execution chamber).

It amazes me how many far right Boo birds come out when we talk about Rush or Fox and how intellectual some their responses are.

Truth said:
It amazes me how many far right Boo birds come out when we talk about Rush or Fox and how intellectual some their responses are.

Just how amazed are you?

avoidswork said:
my assertion that Americans are more obese than other nations, more educated when compared to other nations

Fact: Kids are fat today! If they walked across town they would run into at least five Happy meals outlets before there french fries get cold! No debating it. That’s the fact!

Updated: Fox did their own survey and they determined that they are The Most Powerful Name in News and are Fair and Balanced.

avoidswork said:
–no responding to what myself

Fact: Are you important? Got your answer!

avoidswork said:
bringing up random things (without a link

Fact: Well you think your smart but I guess you’re not or it’s like your posting name you’re to lazy to do it yourself!

avoidswork said:
sounding worse each time

Fact: It’s a post. How can you say it’s bad if it’s so powerful you can actually hear it!

avoidswork said:
since your handle is “Just4thefax

Fact: That’s the fact! All you get are the facts!

Nacho said:
Updated: Fox did their own survey and they determined that they are The Most Powerful Name in News and are Fair and Balanced.

Keith Olbermann , no longer twitterpated over Twitter , could not be reached for comment .

Just4thefax says:
December 17, 2010 at 9:47 pm Just4thefax(Quote)
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avoidswork said:
bringing up random things (without a link

Fact: Well you think your smart but I guess you’re not or it’s like your posting name you’re to lazy to do it yourself!

That’s you’re smart, and too, not to, lazy. Yes, typical conservative. Don’t blame liberals, blame your LAZY fathers who obviously didn’t have the brains to see that you were educated properly. LOL

Take some personal responsibility for ONCE in your lives, right-wingers…stop blaming your failures on liberals. We didn’t fail you, your own did. LOL

Michael Clemente aka FAUX News pubescent dimple faced President said:
“The latest Princeton Review ranked the University of Maryland among the top schools for having ‘Students Who Study The Least’ and being the ‘Best Party School’” adding “given these fine academic distinctions, we’ll regard the study with the same level of veracity it was ‘researched’ with.” .

Classic argumentun ad hominem logical fallacy.

This moron always does this. I remember when he mocked LL Cool J when LL refused to approve his image be used in their Sarah Palin promoting smut. I would be mad too if I was told the organization I run has no credibility.

Sean68 said:
I wonder how many questions they asked and how they chose the questions. Do they explain the process? Also, I thought liberals loved exposing bias in testing. Just like they like denigrating the validity of IQ tests (unless of course it can help save Tyrone from the execution chamber).

There’s a link with the actual report in the article. Check it out.

This is the biggest understatement of the year. Anyone who takes media seriously knows that Fox News misinforms its readers, playing on their prejudices, resentment and ignorance to make money. Fox markets to the masses of poorly educated Americans who rarely read anything more complex than USA Today. Look at the level of posting on this forum by those who get their news from Fox. They cannot get past school yard name calling. It is sad really. The world is quickly passing this crowd by.

UPDATE:

True to form, Fox News management and its sheep mock at institutions of higher learning.

“Researchers at the University of Maryland have released a study of news viewers entitled, “Misinformation and the 2010 Election” (.pdf) and found news viewers often get the wrong idea on major stories”".

Point is news channels just suck.. they don’t give news anymore…

If you get your news source . From just one news source . Then you are not well rounded on info . CSPAN you can see the action live in the houses .
FOX gets the high ratings . What I watch the most . But some shows I don’t watch ,but the TV is on . So guess they might think I do . I don’t care for Shep . Just seems like he hopes a car will head on into another on one of those chases . The man loves bad news .
I think all Media drives a story into a frenzy . Rawls things up . And just when it can do some good they bail . They want nobody to win . That way all their campaign money goes to them .

Hey everybody.

Have you seen this website that posts ignorant and/or evil comments made by Fox News fans? Check it out:

http://foxnewscomments.com/

Most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring (30 points).

Whoa.

Fox News: Waging war against secular governance said:
Hey everybody. Have you seen this website that posts ignorant and/or evil comments made by Fox News fans? Check it out: http://foxnewscomments.com/

You know why I like Fox news? Because it makes douchebags like this guy go apeshit. Carry on Roger Ailes!

Sean68 said:
Just how amazed are you?

Enough to confirm the Uof M study.

BarneyFranken said:
You know why I like Fox news? Because it makes douchebags like this guy go apeshit. Carry on Roger Ailes!

That’s a relief. Much better reason than actually thinking it’s the news.

Fox News: Waging war against secular governance said:
Hey everybody.

Have you seen this website that posts ignorant and/or evil comments made by Fox News fans? Check it out:

http://foxnewscomments.com/

Yeah, I’ve seen it: http://www.foxnews.com/

What a lie! Fox News viewers are very well informed because they get FAIR AND BALANCED information instead of left-wing propaganda. When the issue is same-sex marriage we hear people who oppose it and who favor it, when it’s Obamacare or the bailouts we have the pro and the anti side. Is the rest of the media like that? Of course not. Fox even covers stories the left-wing media ignores, it even covers the libertarian perspective with Stossel and Judge Napolitano. Besides, the world of academia is dominated by politically-correct progressives, the kind of people who scream “hate speech” if you say anything they disagree with. Trusting them on Fox is like trusting Al-Jazeera on Israel. Doesn’t make sense.
http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com/2010/12/17/second-hand-water-vapor-the-war-against-electronic-cigarettes/

I’m skeptical. All those topics are kind of “conspiracy theories” and assumptions conservatives are just more likely to have. If the questions reflected topics leftists were skeptical about i’m sure you would find the results skewed in the other direction. For example I’m sure more msnbc viewers would believe the government was involved in 911 or that zionists are controlling American foreign policy.

greg454 said:
What a lie! Fox News viewers are very well informed because they get FAIR AND BALANCED information instead of left-wing propaganda.

Why don’t you go read the study that this article is about and see where you would categorize yourself as if you were a participant.

Heck, you might learn something new.

Biscuit said:
We didn’t fail you

Fact: Let me answer that in a way you can understand it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYyBZE0kBtE

Nacho said:
Heck, you might learn something new

Fact: A = 2 apples, B = 10 apples, a = all other news stations, B = Fox
so ( A – B = 8B ) Did you get that one? No?
Find it here then!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwhl4IrPNc

Typical of Fox, kill the messenger not the message!

greg454 said:
When the issue is same-sex marriage we hear people who oppose it and who favor it,

Except the people that oppose it don’t have a rational argument grounded in anything but emotion. “the majority opposes it” argument is an insult to our Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

greg454 said:
Obamacare or the bailouts we have the pro and the anti side.

You might note that that’s one of the issues where people are misinformed.

greg454 said:
Fox even covers stories the left-wing media ignores,

and occasionally makes one up

greg454 said:
Besides, the world of academia is dominated by politically-correct progressives, the kind of people who scream “hate speech” if you say anything they disagree with. Trusting them on Fox is like trusting Al-Jazeera on Israel. Doesn’t make sense.

Once again, this study is done by the same group Stu and Beck used to justify their 10% of Muslims are terrorists bunk. Evidently it’s reliable enough.

If you’re saying smart people who do studies can’t be trusted to present facts that’s pretty stunningly ridiculous.
You’re basically saying you won’t trust anyone who disagrees with your opinions. That’s your option, but don’t wonder why people don’t take your arguments seriously.

CosmosDan said:
Once again, this study is done by the same group Stu and Beck used to justify their 10% of Muslims are terrorists bunk. Evidently it’s reliable enough

Evidently, or absolutely? Is WPO a valid pollster?

Atticus Draco said:
IF a poll gets wrecked ,, it usually over the involvement of democrats!!

Which is why Blue States have the most educated populace overall. Sorry, just because fake conservatives don’t actually believe in science and wouldn’t know how to conduct a poll if Sarah Palin (the only author Fox “News” viewers seemingly read) wrote a How To on conducting polls and surveys, doesn’t mean that the results are WRONG.

This isn’t the first and it won’t be the last study that has concluded that Fox “News’ viewers don’t know diddly. And the fact that Fox “News” has zero interest in actually reporting the REAL NEWS, then this survey simply proves YET AGAINwhat I’ve said all along:

Fox ‘News” is not a “News” organization, so it is not “America’s most watched News source”, it is one of the LEAST watched entertainment channels owned by Rupert Murdoch.

We now have empirical evidence that Fox “News” viewers wouldn’t know reality if it bit them in the a$$. Thanks for confirming that fact.

dlauf87 said:
For example I’m sure more msnbc viewers would believe the government was involved in 911 or that zionists are controlling American foreign policy.

That’s funny since NO ONE on MSNBC people who believe such things the time of day. But Fox sees fit to give any yahoo with an anti-Left opinion not only time on their channel, if they MAKE UP conspiracies against the Left enough, they get their own show.

For example, Louis Farrakhan was able to get just as many people to the Mall on Washington as Glenn Beck did. And by nature of Farrakhan’s Million Man March, only 6% of the American population could eve participate. That means that Glenn Beck, too, has support from about 5-6% of the America population. In my book, that makes him a fringe figure, at best. YET, the good people of Fox “News” see fit to give Glenn Beck, the conspiracy theorist fringe figure, his own TV show. When is the last time you saw Louis Farrakhan on MSNBC? Nowhere, and he sure as heck isn’t in their prime time line up.

And the reason that is, is because that LEFT WING MEDIA myth is all in your head. It’s conjured by the same conspiracy nuts like Beck who Fox supports not because he knows what he is talking about (historians, politicians, and economists all agree that he really doesn’t), but because he gives historically, politically, and economically illiterate viewers EXCUSES for why things are the way they are instead of the necessary facts so that those viewers can determine for themselves.

Left to their own devices, most Fox viewers would know NOTHING about what’s going on in the world. Now they know NEGATIVE NOTHING, meaning they know LIES instead of real facts. If you’re too unaware of the world and how we got to where we are in the first place, why do you rely on a drunken bipolar college dropout to inform you? You might as well remain ignorant.

No information is better than misinformation. No information means someone can inform you. Misinformation means you have to dis-informed about lies first and then re-informed about facts later. A process that can take decades. UNLEARNING is harder than LEARNING.

Sean68 said:
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I wonder how many questions they asked and how they chose the questions. Do they explain the process? Also, I thought liberals loved exposing bias in testing. Just like they like denigrating the validity of IQ tests (unless of course it can help save Tyrone from the execution chamber).

Gee Sean, why don’t you enlighten us with your own skills at exposing bias in testing? Come on, just because Fox “Not Necessarily the News” Channel has taught you to be suspect of any and all things related to science (ie FACTS and LOGIC), doesn’t means that the survey is WRONG. It just further proves that Fox “Not Necessarily the News” viewers have a hard time dealing with reality. Most thinking people already knew that, now we have empirical evidence to prove it.

Just because you’re too lazy to do your own scientific survey (because you wouldn’t know what a scientific survey was if it knocked you upside the head) doesn’t mean you have to criticize the results of the survey. Particularly since all you have to support your opinions is INNUENDO instead of facts. Must have learned your debate tactics from Fox. Because without INNUENDO, they’d have nothing to say.

BTW, thanks for the little racist jab at the end. It lends even more discredit to your sour grapes gripes.

greg454 said:
Doesn’t make sense.

Yep Greg. Facts are something that doesn’t make sense to the average Fox “Not Necessarily the News” viewers. It’s something they have so little contact with and regard for that when they are presented with the empirical FACTS that they are DUPED and MISLED, they have a collective hissy fit. Don’t let the FACTS get in your way of your misperception of reality. Fox “Not Necessarily the News” viewers never have before.

Big Ed, Tingles, Olby, Ray, & O’Donnell are more informative then those on FNC?

Damn I miss those old ‘party’ days at the alma mater, beer/goldschlager bong anyone?

http://www.suite101.com/content/top-american-party-schools-2010-2011-princeton-review-rankings-a265882

Nacho said:
Updated: Fox did their own survey and they determined that they are The Most Powerful Name in News and are Fair and Balanced.

That wasn’t a product of a survey. That was a product of their public relations people. Which is pretty much the role Fox fulfills for the GOP.

Oh no, you colleges, with your education and information and stuff. You bad bad evil colleges with your scientific method and other things we don’t know anything about and thus are suspect of it. We Fox Not the News viewers want nothing to do with it. If I went to college, I wouldn’t need a bipolar drunk drop out to give me history lessons and I wouldn’t need welfare queens like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin teach me about fiscal responsibility.

Who needs COLLEGE and HIGHER EDUCATION when you can spend your money on basic cable instead.

You would think the pinheads at UMD would be informed enough to know that if you act like knuckleheads cops will show up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o9krzgiV5A

Liberals = State-Funded Indoctrination

Conservatives = Appeal to Reasoned Thought

How does that fit into the ideological myopia of “higher education; circa,2010″?
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2010 was only the first glorious battle! – Barry’s folding like a cheap tent, GOP governors will gerrymand the country, and Olbermann is running cover for rapists!
The sun is shining in America again!

The progressive Left is in freefall…time to put the coup de grace in 2012……YOU BETCHA!

All I had to do was read the first bullet point to understand how uninformed people are that believe this study as factual:

“Most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses (12 points more likely)”

Let’s break this down a little…In February of 2009 the national unemployment number was 8.2% today it stands around 9.8%. So the number of unemployed Americans jumped 1.6% since the stimulus passed yet we have somehow gained jobs right? GTFO!

“Who needs COLLEGE and HIGHER EDUCATION when you can spend your money on basic cable instead.”

—One hour of Glenn Beck is more educational than one hour of a Marxist professor telling you why capitalism sucks.Of course, you probably hate America, you probably wish we were more like Europe. I would tell you to go live there, but with their strict immigration controls I doubt you’d be able to get in.

“Yep Greg. Facts are something that doesn’t make sense to the average Fox “Not Necessarily the News” viewers. It’s something they have so little contact with and regard for that when they are presented with the empirical FACTS that they are DUPED and MISLED, they have a collective hissy fit. Don’t let the FACTS get in your way of your misperception of reality. Fox “Not Necessarily the News” viewers never have before.”

—-Yeah, you probably watch MSNBC where Adolph Hitler Maddow and Fidel Castro Olberman give you their propaganda and only interview people that agree with them. A former liberal friend of mine told me that conservatives are escared of dabating Maddow and Olbernazi because they’re “so smart.” Yeah right, being on that show is as appealing as getting caught in To Catch a Predator.

With Fox we get all the facts, we’re not being brainwashed into hating America, believing that 9/11 was an inside job, hating white people, supporting illegal aliens, hating Israel, supporting arab extremism and that evil ground zero mosque and community center. Do we have liberals on Fox? Absolutely, Juan Williams is a liberal, and unlike your Herr Olberman and Fraulein Maddow, he’s not full of shit. At least he makes coherent arguments. No, I’m staying with Fox, the others are for the liberal academia and their progressive friends. The kind of people that are trying to ban smoking, even e-cigarrette water vapor smokeless smoking.
http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com/2010/12/17/second-hand-water-vapor-the-war-against-electronic-cigarettes/

Progressive nazis like you think we’re too stupid to make our own decisions, so you’ll make them for us. Well, over my dead body.

greg454 said:
“Who needs COLLEGE and HIGHER EDUCATION when you can spend your money on basic cable instead.”

Yes but with Higher Education and becoming part of the Higher,Educated & well informed you can bang your Daughter and still be accepted.

http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/8782214/

Who knew they had a trailer out back at Columbia?

Fox News: Waging war against secular governance said:
I condemn every one of you losers who spend your entire day watching Fox News and leaving comments on the sites of New TvNewser, Johnny Dollar and Mediaite using multiple sock puppets.

Oh my God, no! What will we do?

jjay7381 said:
Hahaha wow, tell us something we don’t already know.

You again?

Linda said:
OMG your really a sick person. Way too far gone for help. sad.. sad

Linda, You think she is sick and sad? The only difference between you is that you see things from a liberal view instead of a conservative view.

Kim Barker said:
Tyrone

A reminder of how thrilling it is to be shot at and missed. And you’ve wasted a lot of ammo. I’m neither a fan of Fox News nor confirmtion/selection bias. Aren’t you concerned that a survey potentially rife with mischief might be a tad dubious when the results resoundingly reflect the biases of the test giver? And you’re welcome for the racist jab. I took it from that famously racist Steven Pinker, who made the same point in The Blank Slate.

greg454 said:
What a lie! Fox News viewers are very well informed because they get FAIR AND BALANCED information instead of left-wing propaganda.

Neutrality or the use of so-called impartial voices is not really a fundamental principle of journalism. Rather it is a device for persuading the audience that its reporting is accurate, or fair and balanced. When accepted at face value, it is easy to be deceived. A source is often used to by a reporter to express what is really their own point of view and then the neutral voice is brought in to give the appearance of objectivity, which is often simply an illusion. Sometimes it is as simple as having a well-informed source deliver the reinforcing point and then have a less-informed source deliver the counter-point. It is not just Fox that does this, most all of them do. Which is yet another reason to get your news from multiple sources if you want to get close to the truth.

LarryB said:
greg454 said:What a lie! Fox News viewers are very well informed because they get FAIR AND BALANCED information instead of left-wing propaganda. Neutrality or the use of so-called impartial voices is not really a fundamental principle of journalism. Rather it is a device for persuading the audience that its reporting is accurate, or fair and balanced. When accepted at face value, it is easy to be deceived. A source is often used to by a reporter to express what is really their own point of view and then the neutral voice is brought in to give the appearance of objectivity, which is often simply an illusion. Sometimes it is as simple as having a well-informed source deliver the reinforcing point and then have a less-informed source deliver the counter-point. It is not just Fox that does this, most all of them do. Which is yet another reason to get your news from multiple sources if you want to get close to the truth.

That’s all true. But human’s are also strongly prone to self-deception. No journalist wants to think of him- or herself as a propagandist. They either con themselves into thinking they’re reporting the facts truthfully–and that these facts naturally give birth to their own entirely rational ideology; or they are willing simply to distort their reporting because they know deep in their hearts that it is for the best and that in the end the larger Truth is observed.

Publius219 said:
Automated Conservative Response: The study is flawed. It was done by a University. Only liberals go to universities. Liberals are evil. Hence, studies and studying is also evil.

But for real, this shouldn’t be a shock to anyone living in reality.

Its Bush’s fault!!!!!!

Gasket said:
I did that deliberately! Now you can not argue and say the polling was biased against the right. Fox News comes at the bottom of those polls too which reinforces the conclusion of the UoM study! Thanks for playing.

Yeh, sure you did.

Any of you liberals losers happen to see this article?

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/12/yet-another-study-showing-how-dumb-i-am.html

Interesting, isn’t it?

let me explainify for your faux ewes sheeple…

for the record – “the Princeton Review says the University of Maryland ranks among the ‘Best Northeastern Colleges,” Stelter notes. “It was No. 19 on the Review’s list of ‘Best Party Schools.’”

^ GOOD GRIEF!

leave it to fox to misrepresent what the Princeton review ACTUALLY SAID – but why should we expect any differently? it’s in line with EXACTLY how they misrepresent & distort the news!

HEHEHE! *DUBYA CHUCKLE*

Ninja said:
All I had to do was read the first bullet point to understand how uninformed people are that believe this study as factual:

“Most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses (12 points more likely)”

Let’s break this down a little…In February of 2009 the national unemployment number was 8.2% today it stands around 9.8%. So the number of unemployed Americans jumped 1.6% since the stimulus passed yet we have somehow gained jobs right? GTFO!

This is an example of why Fox isn’t totally to blame. They are just a major accomplice.

This persons (no offense) critical thinking skills seem to be limited to start off with and then comes along Fox News and merely supports what they want to believe.

Ninja says:
“All I had to do was read the first bullet point to understand how uninformed people are that believe this study as factual:

“Most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses (12 points more likely)”

Let’s break this down a little…In February of 2009 the national unemployment number was 8.2% today it stands around 9.8%. So the number of unemployed Americans jumped 1.6% since the stimulus passed yet we have somehow gained jobs right? GTFO!”

What you have, Ninja, is a poor understanding of your facts. The stimulus package did not cause those job loses, it prevented the current unemployment rate from being 11-13% or higher. What has caused the continued increase in unemployment is the same thing that kicked this great recession off in the first place: deepening strains in the housing market, i.e., foreclosures, declining values and virtually no construction (employment) of new homes. This leads to low confidence, low consumer spending and low demand for products.

Another factor in the struggling job market is the 25 year history of corporations exporting America jobs. What would be a faster recovery by now is instead very slow job growth while people in India and Latin America are earning pennies on the dollar performing the work that used to be done by Americans.

Don’t just post comments, be part of the solution to the mess Fox is making of people’s minds.

greg454 said:
With Fox we get all the facts, we’re not being brainwashed into hating America, believing that 9/11 was an inside job, hating white people, supporting illegal aliens, hating Israel, supporting arab extremism and that evil ground zero mosque and community center. Do we have liberals on Fox? Absolutely, Juan Williams is a liberal, and unlike your Herr Olberman and Fraulein Maddow, he’s not full of shit. At least he makes coherent arguments. No, I’m staying with Fox, the others are for the liberal academia and their progressive friends… Progressive nazis like you think we’re too stupid to make our own decisions, so you’ll make them for us. Well, over my dead body.

let me explainify… you’re a MORAN.
it’s faux ‘ewes’ that’s making the decision “for you” by misrepresenting the reality they present to you.

Juan Williams is NOT A ‘REAL’ LIBERAL – he was FIRED for being a faux ‘ewes’ sell-out !! the only reason he’s on fox isbecause he got the BOOT from his former employers.

you sheeple make DUBYA look like a Genius, hehehehe!!

“Neutrality or the use of so-called impartial voices is not really a fundamental principle of journalism. Rather it is a device for persuading the audience that its reporting is accurate, or fair and balanced. When accepted at face value, it is easy to be deceived. A source is often used to by a reporter to express what is really their own point of view and then the neutral voice is brought in to give the appearance of objectivity, which is often simply an illusion.”

—True, the story of journalism is filled with stories of bias and deception. However, Fox News has challenged the previous monopoly of news by CNN and the broadcast media by being fair and balanced. When people accuse Fox of being rightwing is because they’re not used to hearing different points of view but rather centrists and leftwing voices to the exclusion of all others.

Take this story of Dan Savage chastising CNN for allowing “homophobic” viewpoints to be aired.
http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/sex-columnist-attacks-free-speech/

People like Savage thinks that any opinion that disagrees with him is hate speech, why? Because he’s a progressive, a liberal like Juan Williams can understand that people will disagree with him, progressives can’t.

Fox News wants to be fair and balanced because that’s what draws a huge audience of people with all kinds of political perspectives. They don’t need to lie, they don’t need to fire Margaret Hoover just because her support of same-sex marriage might upset some people, they know that as long as they balance her viewpoint with other voices the viewers won’t feel like they’re being brainwashed.

How effective is Fox at programming their viewers with repetition of lies?
the gullible tool greg454 says:
“What a lie! Fox News viewers are very well informed because they get FAIR AND BALANCED information instead of left-wing propaganda.”

As usual, when the committed ideologue reads facts that don’t accord with their understanding, they dig in their heels to avoid cognitive dissonance. The biggest lie on Fox: that it’s fair and balanced.

Well Glenn Beck Review, you’re anything BUT fair and balanced, so do you really think you’re qualified to judge? Come on, dude, you’re a progressive, that’s why you love MSNBC, it’s political porn for progressives, yet do you see me trying to shut down MSNBC? No. Why? Because I believe in freedom, you should try it sometime.
http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com/

Z on TV| Survey on FOX News: Who defines ‘misinformed’?
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2010/12/survey_on_fox_news_who_defines.html

Kim Barker said:
That’s funny since NO ONE on MSNBC people who believe such things the time of day. But Fox sees fit to give any yahoo with an anti-Left opinion not only time on their channel, if they MAKE UP conspiracies against the Left enough, they get their own show.

For example, Louis Farrakhan was able to get just as many people to the Mall on Washington as Glenn Beck did. And by nature of Farrakhan’s Million Man March, only 6% of the American population could eve participate. That means that Glenn Beck, too, has support from about 5-6% of the America population. In my book, that makes him a fringe figure, at best. YET, the good people of Fox “News” see fit to give Glenn Beck, the conspiracy theorist fringe figure, his own TV show. When is the last time you saw Louis Farrakhan on MSNBC? Nowhere, and he sure as heck isn’t in their prime time line up.

And the reason that is, is because that LEFT WING MEDIA myth is all in your head. It’s conjured by the same conspiracy nuts like Beck who Fox supports not because he knows what he is talking about (historians, politicians, and economists all agree that he really doesn’t), but because he gives historically, politically, and economically illiterate viewers EXCUSES for why things are the way they are instead of the necessary facts so that those viewers can determine for themselves.

Left to their own devices, most Fox viewers would know NOTHING about what’s going on in the world. Now they know NEGATIVE NOTHING, meaning they know LIES instead of real facts. If you’re too unaware of the world and how we got to where we are in the first place, why do you rely on a drunken bipolar college dropout to inform you? You might as well remain ignorant.

No information is better than misinformation. No information means someone can inform you. Misinformation means you have to dis-informed about lies first and then re-informed about facts later. A process that can take decades. UNLEARNING is harder than LEARNING.

I was talking about the viewers not the reporters on msnbc and I’m quite sure plenty of them are Michael Moore fans and Noam Chomsky readers. Nice try

Dave Richards said:
Any of you liberals losers happen to see this article? http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/12/yet-another-study-showing-how-dumb-i-am.html Interesting, isn’t it?

Read this one
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/feb/17/stimulus-report-card/

Hmm. Well, I Don’t believe that Lil’ Billy Ayers wearing Bernie’s hoop earrings as a senior citizen is ‘Rad’.
Or that they Will help him fight the power.
Or that they Do have special powers to keep Da’ man from keepin’ him down. Ergo, I am “Most Misinformed”.

greg454 says:
“Well Glenn Beck Review, you’re anything BUT fair and balanced, so do you really think you’re qualified to judge? Come on, dude, you’re a progressive, that’s why you love MSNBC, it’s political porn for progressives, yet do you see me trying to shut down MSNBC? No. Why? ”

If you think — and you do — that Fox is “fair and balanced,” you certainly are not qualified to judge. Tell my how I’m wrong about CNN being the most fair and balanced.

“Political porn” is a Beckian slang for programming that reinforces your beliefs, so it’s clear that you’re a real fan of his absurd and idiotic rhetoric. “Spread your legs” is no way to introduce a subject when you are anything but an absurd joker or rodeo clown to use Beck’s self-description; but go ahead and delude yourself into thinking that you’re well informed after listening to the network of dumbing down their viewers. Fox is to news as professional wrestling is to sports.

Pablo said:
Evidently, or absolutely? Is WPO a valid pollster?

I’m not sure. I’m also not someone citing them in one case and dismissing them in another, which was my point.

This was a web survey, so the sample was not random. The survey was conducted by World Public Opinion, an organization that is funded by Soros.

90% of both Republicans and Democrats thought they had been exposed to inaccurate or misleading information prior to the election.

Some of the questions were themselves misleading or unverifiable. For instance, most voters did not think the stimulus programs had created or saved any significant number of jobs. The CBO claimed that it had. So voters who reported no effect from TARP or other stimulus legislation were marked down as being misinformed. In fact it is not clear that the CBO was right and the voters wrong. The stimulus bill was supposed to keep unemployment below 8%, yet unemployment peaked at 10% and has not dropped appreciably from that level. So who is right and who is misinformed? Also, the report mentions a WSJ article claiming the stimulus bill created jobs, but the WSJ gives most of the credit to the Federal Reserve Bank; so the report itself is misleading.

As for healthcare reform’s impact on the deficit, again it appears that the voters’ “misconception” might very well turn out to be accurate, and the experts wrong. At any rate, the CBO report on the fiscal impact is based on 10 years of revenue (2011-2020) but only 6 years of spending (2015-2020). Comparing apples to apples, the healthcare reform bill adds hugely to the national debt.

Climate change is another issue where the voters may very well have a better grasp of reality than the “experts”.

Most people did not get any tax relief, so it was reasonable for most voters to not know about tax relief in the stimulus bill.

As for the 15% who did not think Barack Obama was born in the US, that closely matches those who aren’t sure the Earth is round, or that the Apollo astronauts actually landed on the moon, and is less than those who think the federal government caused the collapse of the Twin Towers in 9/11. You can always find 15% who will believe any crackpot idea; it does not mean they are uninformed or misinformed, merely stupid. (Remember, nearly half of all Americans have a below-average intelligence.)

Quote: “Those who watched Fox News almost daily were significantly more likely than those who never
watched it to believe that:
… the stimulus failed to create jobs (12 points more likely)
… the health care law will worsen the deficit (31 points)
… climate change is occurring (30 points) (end quote)

Because of these findings, the survey concludes that FNC viewers are more uninformed. I would argue that FNC viewers are in fact properly skeptical of what the so-called experts have been telling them. And if MSNBC viewers are more likely to believe in manmade climate change, that tells me that MSNBC viewers are more gullible and possibly misinformed.

Also, regarding the question about jobs created because of the stimulus, only MSNBC viewers seemed to be affected by frequent viewing. The people who never watched, listened to, or read network news, public radio, or newspapers had similar opinions to those who accessed those news sources nearly every day. Only those who watched MSNBC nearly every day had a significantly different opinion — so they and not the FNC viewers were the ones most likely to be influenced. The survey claims MSNBC viewers are better informed, but maybe they are the ones most misinformed, compared to those who get their news from all other sources.

Again, those who conducted the survey decided arbitrarily what they would count as correctly informed or misinformed; the survey was conducted online so did not question randomly selected respondents; and someone with different biases than the World Public Opinion group could use the same data to prove the exact opposite point, that in fact FNC viewers are BETTER informed than those who get their news from CNN or MSNBC or NPR or daily newspapers.

In fact the survey is worthless. Soros gave them money, he expected a particular result, and they produced that result. It is not newsworthy.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf

Study: Fox News Viewers “Most Misinformed” Of All News Consumers

Poll conducted by George Soros & the Tides Foundation.

GlennBeckReview said:
Fox is to news as professional wrestling is to sports.

BS Liar. You are to TRUTH what LSD is to reality.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
I live in Northern Oregon….I don’t live in ‘Murica.

So, that explains your utter stupidity.

Nahu Tuk said:
So, that explains your utter stupidity.

So says the FAUX viewing Cleti….

J Baustian said:

In fact the survey is worthless. Soros gave them money, he expected a particular result, and they produced that result. It is not newsworthy.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf

Funniest thing is its not the first time it happened in a poll….

Yes FAUX viewers are really that stupid and out of touch with reality.

NORBIT said:
Liberals = State-Funded Indoctrination

Conservatives = Appeal to Reasoned Thought

Is that something you learned on Fox Not Necessarily the News? Didn’t you learn anything from this article–anything you learn from Fox is suspect at best.

If it’s FACTS you’re at all interested in then you would know that those EVIL Liberals that actually believe in education also, lo and behold, MAKE MORE MONEY. So all that “appeal to reasoned thought” is actually more like a cover for a GOP (and it’s PR firm Fox “News”) that has the highest rates of illiterate and impoverished. The only APPEAL is to keep their constituents too dumb and poor to know how much they’re being had.

dlauf87 said:
I was talking about the viewers not the reporters on msnbc and I’m quite sure plenty of them are Michael Moore fans and Noam Chomsky readers. Nice try

Thanks for back-peddling from your misstatement. The FACT IS that UNLIKE FOX NEWS, whatever elements of the fringe who watch MSNBC, don’t have those beliefs reinforced by MSNBC. The questions in the survey aren’t a part of CONSPIRACY THEORIES. They are cold hard facts about our economy and contemporary political issues. Those are COLD HARD FACTS that Fox News is blatantly skewing and the question needs to be asked to what end?

Listening to the DENIALISTS on this board when confronted by the reality of how Fox News skews on a daily basis basic information and how those denialists have often built their entire world view based on that skewed information only confirms what END is the real agenda of Fox. Fox “News” job is to LIE HABITUALLY through Roger Ailes issued talking point memos so that their viewers are in no way familiar with reality for what it is but in the manner that the GOP and RNC want that “reality” to be manufactured.

Stop attributing to MSNBC things they never said or reported. Hold Fox News responsible for their failures to do their stated job. And question what their real objectives might be. And why so many people on even these boards have bought and sold that manufactured reality and have such a hard time copy with REALITY for what it is. This willful deception is not healthy for our Democracy.

Sean68 said:
Aren’t you concerned that a survey potentially rife with mischief might be a tad dubious when the results resoundingly reflect the biases of the test giver?

So I guess that means you don’t actually have any FACTS to support that this survey is bogus. Just the standard unfounded denial that the standard Fox viewer has when the truth comes to light. If you don’t want to be treated like the standard Fox tool, don’t act like one.

BTW, this is NOT the first time that surveys have shown this FACT about the FACTLESS Fox to be the case. There have been past surveys by the University of Illinois and the Pew Research Institute that came to the exact same conclusion. So while you’re busying trying to debunk this particular survey, debunk those as well. Otherwise, stop using false equivalencies about scary TYRONE to prove a point you are ill-equipped to defend with FACTS.

Nahu Tuk said:
Study: Fox News Viewers “Most Misinformed” Of All News Consumers

Poll conducted by George Soros & the Tides Foundation.

Except that are other polls conducted by the Pew Research Foundation and the University of Illinois that came to the exact same conclusion. Reality bites, I know. Especially to the average Fox viewer who has little contact with that reality.

greg454 said:
Come on, dude, you’re a progressive

You wouldn’t even know what a progressive nor would you live in such unfounded fear of them was unless you were a Fox news pawn to begin with. So thanks for incriminating your irrationality off the bat. It makes it easier to dismiss your baseless spewings. Speaking of which

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greg454 said:
that’s why you love MSNBC, it’s political porn for progressives, yet do you see me trying to shut down MSNBC

It might be political porn, but it still does a better job at informing their viewers than Fox News. Or maybe it’s because their viewers (because they tend to be liberal which would mean they are more likely to be well off and well-educated) tend to be smarter in the first place.

BTW, thanks for confirming, through your Glenn Beck riddled rhetoric, that you are incapable of any original thought whatsoever. That’s the kind of NON-THINKING that makes you the perfect Fox Not the News stooge.

greg454 said:
“Who needs COLLEGE and HIGHER EDUCATION when you can spend your money on basic cable instead.”

—One hour of Glenn Beck is more educational than one hour of a Marxist professor telling you why capitalism sucks.Of course, you probably hate America, you probably wish we were more like Europe. I would tell you to go live there, but with their strict immigration controls I doubt you’d be able to get in.

If you couldn’t afford COLLEGE, you definitely couldn’t afford going to Europe to even know what you were talking about. But being ignorant and poor is a common byproduct of supporting Republican leaders. Keeping people poor and educated is part of their ploy to keep getting elected. And Fox News is their main tool to impose that strategy.

But seriously, no reputable HISTORIAN, EDUCATOR, SCIENTIST or ECONOMIST would ever confirm ANY of the conclusions that Beck spews as fact. Sorry but an hour of intellectually lazy soft brain activity sitting in front of the BOOB TUBE does not compare with people who are actually educated and know how to utilize critical thinking skills and do basic research.

Beck appeals only to those who have done exactly ZERO minutes of actual research on the things he spews about. Every morning, Beck gets something about progressives and Nazis up his crawl and then does exactly FIVE MINUTES of research on the topic. This is, again, exactly FIVE MINUTES more of research than a stooge like you would ever do on your own. This is why to the WHOLLY UNEDUCATED, Beck seems informed. But for those of us who have done, say at least, SIX MINUTES of research or even those experts who have done DECADES worth of study on the subject, then we know IMMEDIATELY that Beck is full of crap. Just because you’re too lazy to get an education, doesn’t mean Glenn Beck is an adequate compensation. Unless you’re trying to learn how to be an alcoholic bipolar uneducated goon. Otherwise, it might behove you to actually do the SIX MINUTES of research on your own. Especially since higher education is beyond your grasp.

Until then, good luck in your job as HEAD JANITOR, the only job that a degree from Glenn Beck University has prepared. Make that the ANNOYING HEAD JANITOR WITH AN AXE TO GRIND AND AN IRRATIONAL FEAR OF LIBERALS AND THE GOVERNMENT. For that job title, Glenn Beck’s guidance will get you far. For any other legitimate job, you’re doomed.

Kim Barker said:
Keeping people poor and educated is part of their ploy to keep getting elected

*keeping people poor and UNEDUCATED, that is. Statistically, being poor and uneducated is an affliction most likely to doom those that live in a Red State. In college, they teach you about cause and effect. It’s a good thing for the fake conservative leadership you support and Glenn Beck’s gold peddling sponsors that you missed out on that lesson.

greg454 said:
a liberal like Juan Williams can understand that people will disagree with him, progressives can’t.

Which is precisely why Juan Williams had a hissy fit when his former employer disagreed with him about his OPINION. But thanks AGAIN for the false equivalency. And thanks again for making excuses for Fox News inability to INFORM their viewers with FACTS. This, again, is NOT the first survey that has proven this to be the case. This is just the latest that proves that the LATEST factual information about current political issues are incomprehensible to the average Fox viewers.

Past surveys have proven that the average Fox viewer was the least informed about the Iraq War and Iraq’s “involvement” on 9-11. For example, 70% of FOX VIEWERS thought there were Iraqis on the planes during 9-11. Now where would they get such ideas.

Fox does not PRESENT both sides equitably. They get liberal stooges like the aforementioned Juan Williams on to present a very weak liberal argument and then the fake conservatives gang up on him and dispute his watered down argument with exaggerated claims that are often blatantly false. And, at no point, does the likes of Williams dispute those talking points. This is a common rhetorical ploy to make your point of view seem more valid–surrounding yourself with people who are to be used as a whipping post, not someone who is capable of calling you out on your talking points and retorting with facts. The facts that you fall for their sorry schoolyard debate tactics takes away any and all credibility to your argument.

greg454 said:
Fox News wants to be fair and balanced because that’s what draws a huge audience of people with all kinds of political perspectives. They don’t need to lie

BTW, while defending the statement that Fox doesn’t need to lie, you, in fact, LIE. Fact is polling indicates that Fox News viewers favored both John McCain and George W. Bush by nearly 10 to 1. And the MAJORITY of Americans DID NOT support McCain and Bush by such a margin. To think that Fox is at all, with their paltry 1.5 million prime time viewership APPEALS to a wide range of people of all kinds of political affiliations is simply not the case. Which means that either you are LYING or are the typical uninformed Fox viewer who blatantly states NON-FACTS as FACTS because you have heard those NON-FACTS spewed constantly on Fox News.

FACT IS most Americans most Americans no longer get their news predominately from television news. Of those that do, the majority of them get their news from broadcast news channels (ie. NOT FOX). Fact is the overwhelming number of people who watch Fox are Republican supporters and, therefore, their main appeal (like that of channels like ESPN or SPEED network) is they appeal to a fringe group of viewers fulfilling the views of a niche market. That’s not FAIR AND BALANCED, that’s telling the sheep what they want to hear.

J Baustian says:
“This was a web survey, so the sample was not random. The survey was conducted by World Public Opinion, an organization that is funded by Soros.”

Well, not exactly. They are funded by:
Rockefeller Foundation
Rockefeller Brothers Fund
Tides Foundation
Ford Foundation
German Marshall Fund of the United States
Compton Foundation
Carnegie Corporation
Benton Foundation
Ben and Jerry’s Foundation
University of Maryland Foundation
Circle Foundation
JEHT Foundation
Stanley Foundation
Ploughshares Fund
Calvert Foundation
Secure World Foundation
Oak Foundation
United States Institute of Peace

Yes, Baustian, the Tided Foundation receives money from Soros, but remember what even someone as whack as Glenn Beck said about World Public Opinion. “This is some well known, well established….not some right wing poll…it’s a very stable poll that everyone uses….”

So many of the right wing comments here are clear evidence that Fox makes their viewers have views and misinformation that enables them to come across as “stupid.” I’ve made it clear that being misinformed is not stupidity, but it sure sounds that way in conversation with Fox viewers.

Kim Barker said:
Except that are other polls conducted by the Pew Research Foundation and the University of Illinois that came to the exact same conclusion. Reality bites, I know. Especially to the average Fox viewer who has little contact with that reality.

Why don’t you link to those polls? We might like to see the details of those polls, instead of the one that Media Matters though was so authoritative.

Kim Barker said:
Fox does not PRESENT both sides equitably.

Maybe not. But neither does NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, TIME, Newsweek, the NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, AJC, NPR, BBC, Pravda, al Jazeera, Xinhua News Agency, The Guardian, and I could go on. All those broadcast or cable news services and newspapers have a center-left or hard-left bias.

I see that Talking Points Memo, a left-wing blog, is now pointing how uninformed and/or misinformed are the viewers and readers of other MSM outlets. So FNC’s viewers are hardly the only ones, even if you accept the conclusions of the U of Maryland study.

I think this study deserves some hyperbole. The Top Ten Most Biased and Poorly Constructed Studies of All Time.

J Baustian said:
Maybe not. But neither does NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, TIME, Newsweek, the NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, AJC, NPR, BBC, Pravda, al Jazeera, Xinhua News Agency, The Guardian, and I could go on

Actually I was referring to a statement by Greg454 that suggested that because Fox News invites the occasional liberal stooge on, that they are somehow “presenting both sides of the story” and, therefore, appeal to a broader audience. The truth is that Fox viewers OVERWHELMINGLY support the GOP and the Tea Party even when the vast majority of Americans do not.

But thanks for taking ONE SENTENCE completely out of context. You really have learned a LOT about how to misrepresent information from FOX NEWS. Too bad you haven’t learned very many FACTS through them.

Again, at any point Rupert Murdoch can sanction his own survey to prove how uninformed viewers of other news networks and agencies are. But then he’d have to start by admitting the one thing that Fox News has ZERO interest in admitting, the FACTS for what they are, not for what Fox Not Necessarily the News has tried to pawn them off as.

BTW, thanks for admitting that there’s validity to the conclusions of this survey. Your kind could only keep up the willfully ignorant charade for so long.

It’s amusing that a low-ranking party state school thinks that they’re the arbiters of political truth. I’m sure they ranked thinking that the bailout did nothing to avoid a “Great Depression” and in fact accelerated the economic decline as being “misinformed”… but of course I base my opinions on facts. The University of Maryland clearly doesn’t, seeing how as it considers a modification to the withholding tables (which resulting in me paying over $1000 to the federal government last April) as a “tax cut” from the “stimulus”.

Tony Westover said:

It’s amusing that a low-ranking party state school thinks that they’re the arbiters of political truth

Except others like the Pew Institute came to the same conclusion. It’s amusing that people who reject the scientific method are trying everything they can to avoid making a cogent scientific argument against the so-called fallacies of this survey and seem at all credible. Unless you consider blatant LIES to be, indeed, facts then the results of the survey stands in it’s findings.

Tony Westover said:
“It’s amusing that a low-ranking party state school thinks that they’re the arbiters of political truth”

Kim Barker says:
“Except others like the Pew Institute came to the same conclusion. It’s amusing that people who reject the scientific method are trying everything they can to avoid making a cogent scientific argument against the so-called fallacies of this survey and seem at all credible.”

It is called denialism: How irrational thinking hinders scientific progress, harms the planet and threatens our lives. In this case, people who watch Fox don’t want to believe that they’re being lied to for political reasons, don’t want to believe that Fox is nothing more than propaganda in a political operation to move the country to the right and further from problem solving.

Fox News: Waging war against secular governance said:
“Hey everybody. Have you seen this website that posts ignorant and/or evil comments made by Fox News fans? Check it out: http://foxnewscomments.com/”

BarneyFranken says:
“You know why I like Fox news? Because it makes douchebags like this guy go apeshit. Carry on Roger Ailes!”

I could have picked any one of hundreds of stuck-on-stupid comments to use as an example, but this one seems to be typical of the denialism of the right-wingers. It’s called backlash. From AlterNet:

“A recent cognitive study, as reported by the Boston Globe, concluded that:

Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.

In light of these findings, researchers concluded that a defense mechanism, which they labeled “backfire”, was preventing individuals from producing pure rational thought. The result is a self-delusion that appears so regularly in normal thinking that we fail to detect it in ourselves, and often in others: When faced with facts that do not fit seamlessly into our individual belief systems, our minds automatically reject (or backfire) the presented facts. The result of backfire is that we become even more entrenched in our beliefs, even if those beliefs are totally or partially false.

“The general idea is that it’s absolutely threatening to admit you’re wrong,” said Brendan Nyhan, the lead researcher of the Michigan study. The occurrence of backfire, he noted, is “a natural defense mechanism to avoid that cognitive dissonance.”

The conclusion made here is this: facts often do not determine our beliefs, but rather our beliefs (usually non-rational beliefs) determine the facts that we accept. As the Boston Globe article notes:

In reality, we often base our opinions on our beliefs, which can have an uneasy relationship with facts. And rather than facts driving beliefs, our beliefs can dictate the facts we chose to accept. They can cause us to twist facts so they fit better with our preconceived notions. Worst of all, they can lead us to uncritically accept bad information just because it reinforces our beliefs. This reinforcement makes us more confident we’re right, and even less likely to listen to any new information. And then we vote.

Despite this finding, Nyhan claims that the underlying cause of backfire is unclear. “It’s very much up in the air,” he says. And on how our society is going to counter this phenomena, Nyhan is even less certain.

These latter unanswered questions are expected in any field of research, since every field has its own limitations. Yet here the field of psychoanalysis can offer a completion of the picture.

Disavowal and Backfire: One and the Same

In an article by psychoanalyst Rex Butler, Butler independently comes to the same conclusion as the Michigan Study researchers. In regards to facts and their relationship to belief systems (or ideologies), Butler says that:

there is no necessary relationship between reality and its symbolization … Our descriptions do not naturally and immutably refer to things, but … things in retrospect begin to resemble their description. Thus, in the analysis of ideology, it is not simply a matter of seeing which account of reality best matches the ‘facts’, with the one that is closest being the least biased and therefore the best. As soon as the facts are determined, we have already – whether we know it or not – made our choice; we are already within one ideological system or another. The real dispute has already taken place over what is to count as the facts, which facts are relevant, and so on.

This places the field of psychoanalysis on the same footing as that of cognitive science, in regards to this matter. But where cognitive studies end, with Nyhan’s question about the cause of backfire, psychoanalysis picks up and provides a possible answer. In fact, psychoanalysts have been publishing work on backfire for decades; only psychoanalysis refers to backfire by another name: “disavowal”. Indeed, these two terms refer to one and the same phenomena.

A recent cognitive study, as reported by the Boston Globe, concluded that:

Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.

In light of these findings, researchers concluded that a defense mechanism, which they labeled “backfire”, was preventing individuals from producing pure rational thought. The result is a self-delusion that appears so regularly in normal thinking that we fail to detect it in ourselves, and often in others: When faced with facts that do not fit seamlessly into our individual belief systems, our minds automatically reject (or backfire) the presented facts. The result of backfire is that we become even more entrenched in our beliefs, even if those beliefs are totally or partially false.

“The general idea is that it’s absolutely threatening to admit you’re wrong,” said Brendan Nyhan, the lead researcher of the Michigan study. The occurrence of backfire, he noted, is “a natural defense mechanism to avoid that cognitive dissonance.”

The conclusion made here is this: facts often do not determine our beliefs, but rather our beliefs (usually non-rational beliefs) determine the facts that we accept. As the Boston Globe article notes:

In reality, we often base our opinions on our beliefs, which can have an uneasy relationship with facts. And rather than facts driving beliefs, our beliefs can dictate the facts we chose to accept. They can cause us to twist facts so they fit better with our preconceived notions. Worst of all, they can lead us to uncritically accept bad information just because it reinforces our beliefs. This reinforcement makes us more confident we’re right, and even less likely to listen to any new information. And then we vote.

Despite this finding, Nyhan claims that the underlying cause of backfire is unclear. “It’s very much up in the air,” he says. And on how our society is going to counter this phenomena, Nyhan is even less certain.

These latter unanswered questions are expected in any field of research, since every field has its own limitations. Yet here the field of psychoanalysis can offer a completion of the picture.

Disavowal and Backfire: One and the Same

In an article by psychoanalyst Rex Butler, Butler independently comes to the same conclusion as the Michigan Study researchers. In regards to facts and their relationship to belief systems (or ideologies), Butler says that:

there is no necessary relationship between reality and its symbolization … Our descriptions do not naturally and immutably refer to things, but … things in retrospect begin to resemble their description. Thus, in the analysis of ideology, it is not simply a matter of seeing which account of reality best matches the ‘facts’, with the one that is closest being the least biased and therefore the best. As soon as the facts are determined, we have already – whether we know it or not – made our choice; we are already within one ideological system or another. The real dispute has already taken place over what is to count as the facts, which facts are relevant, and so on.

This places the field of psychoanalysis on the same footing as that of cognitive science, in regards to this matter. But where cognitive studies end, with Nyhan’s question about the cause of backfire, psychoanalysis picks up and provides a possible answer. In fact, psychoanalysts have been publishing work on backfire for decades; only psychoanalysis refers to backfire by another name: “disavowal”. Indeed, these two terms refer to one and the same phenomena.

Lakoff shows that two dominant parenting types exist, which can determine the child’s adult ideology. Individuals reared under the “Strict Parent” model tend to grow-up as political conservatives, while those raised under a “Nurturing Parent” model tend to become political liberals. His most influential book on these matters, “Moral Politics: How Liberals and Conservatives Think”, was published in 1996.

Of course, peoples’ minds can fundamentally change, along with their ideological values. But short of a concerted effort by an individual to change, through one form of therapy or another, that change is mostly fostered by traumatic or long-endured life experiences.

Yet many minds remain rock solid for life, beliefs included. As psychiatrist Scott Peck sees it, “Only a relative and fortunate few continue until the moment of death exploring the mystery of reality, ever enlarging and refining and redefining their understanding of the world and what is true.”

Thus to answer Nyahan’s question—how can society counter the negative effects of backfire?—it seems only one answer is viable. Society will need to adopt the truths uncovered by cognitive science and psychoanalysis. And society will have to use those truths to inform their overall cultural practices and values. Short of that, Peck’s “fortunate few” will remain the only individuals among us who resist self-delusion.”

I’ve read comments on MediaFight from maybe 3 who qualify as the “fortunate few.”

Honestly, we needed a study to tell us Faux Noise viewers are misinformed? A bag of hammers and a box of rocks have as much sense as those who believe Fux is “Fair and Balanced.”

GlennBeckReview said:
How irrational thinking hinders scientific progress, harms the planet and threatens our lives. In this case, people who watch Fox don’t want to believe that they’re being lied to for political reasons

But that’s just it, conservatives don’t want Americans to be informed about changes that should be made to keep our nation competitive and our planet functional. Conservatives DON’T WANT CHANGE because it would mean that the manner in which they have either learned to function in this world or even prosper may have to change. Even if the unwillingness to change means cataclysmic results for our economy or even our planet.

For all the calls to “think about the children”, most conservatives could care less about the legacy they’re leaving behind to our economy or our planet. That’s why it’s so important for the likes of Glenn Beck to deny that there is a detrimental effect. It would mean that Americans can no longer be willfully ignorant enough to be stuck in their ways without realizing that “their ways” aren’t working.

For the conservative, as long as they can make some short-term ill-gotten gains now, who cares about the long-term effect will be. That’s someone else’s problem. Maintaining the status quo, even if that means lying about the true effects and honestly discussing what that status quo actual is, is all that matters to the conservative.

This is why it is Fox’s job to keep up the ILLUSION that the neo-con policies that have been crafted by so-called conservatives over the last 40 years are working when there is more than enough empirical evidence to show that they clearly they are not. Unless, of course, you believe that dispensing with America’s Middle Class for the bottom line of the very wealthy to be progress. Fox allows the average American to bury their head in the sand for the benefit of the very few.

Without willful ignorance, false equivalencies, and fake moral outrage (the three most common tactics amongst the propagandists at Fox), none of the Fox defenders would have anything to say at all. Keep calling them out for their rhetorical ploys. Many are too blind to even realize when they are using these tactics.

Oops, apparently one of three copies didn’t take and I pasted the first page of this story twice. The whole story is entitled, Are We Too Dumb for Democracy? The Logic Behind Self-Delusion

Anyone seriously trying to understand why the viewers of Fox and/or Beck don’t let facts get in the way of their beliefs would learn from reading this article.

NewsBusters: ‘Study’ Claiming FOX News Viewers ‘Misinformed’ Is Fraught With Errors
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/12/20/study-claiming-fox-news-viewers-misinformed-fraught-errors

StewartIII, Newsbusters has been busted. They’re complete hypocrites. They’re supposed to be concerned about bias and accuracy in the news, but they are in bed with television’s biggest liar who has an extreme far right bias that they turn blind eyes toward.

That written, I will look at that Newsbuster’s article to deconstruct it because, wtf; I have the afternoon off.

From the Newsbusters piece, the author asserted, “Furthermore, CBO’s numbers have no basis in reality,…”

Why? Because they’re a government agency. Uh huh, so paranoia is the right answer to the questions. Don’t trust the government is the supposed right answer to the question about job creation of the stimulus bill. That’s just right wing propaganda, supposed “watchdogs” meanly covering Fox’s back.

I’ve covered this subject from the perspective of analyzing the media watchdogs: Media Matters for America, Media Research Center, News Hounds and News Busters. Generally speaking, conservative watchdogs point out liberal bias in covering the news while liberal watchdogs point out truthiness of conservative media, in particular the Fox propaganda channel.

One thing I’ve noticed reading the posting at Media Research Center: Stephen Colbert was right, facts have a liberal bias. Apparently, conservatives have an allergy to the facts, or at least the ones that don’t support their regressive opinions.

If you read something over air waves that someone else wrote and you are being paid what even you think is excessive and stupid, you are probably spreading misinformation. Big money feels so good that you justify receiving it by saying, I am doing what I am paid to do. I don’t know how true it is, I’m not an expert, I am a news announcer not a proof reader. God knows my heart is in the right place. If I don’t do it someone else will and I need the money just as much as the next guy or gal.
I am an old man and I remember a guy, I think his name was Bill Putman a news anchor man. He refused to read something that was a lie, just outright false. They fired him and I don’t know if he ever got another job to this day, but I bet he is healthy and sleeps very good at night, that is more than I can say about some news anchor people I have listened to over the past couple years on cable.

Hilarious!
And Fox News groupies now defend willfull ignorance!

Objective reality just isn’t as much fun as prejudice and bias.

lol did any of you look at the questions in that “expose” about Fox viewers. They marked the right answers as wrong! It could only happen with a bunch of left winged uninformed kidlets. Rather funny really.

That’s the report folks – the wrong answer is right because they said so. About the stupidest bunch of “experts” ever assembled. George got what he paid for – lol

Seek,

They marked what was wrong and right based on facts, not on what right wingers tell you. You are surely an example of a misinformed Fox News viewer.

Most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses (12 points more likely) This is false. Most economists estimate that the stimulus saved jobs.

Most economists have estimated the health care law will worsen the deficit (31 points) No, most estimate it will help it.

The economy is getting worse (26 points) No, the economy has gotten better, albeit slowly, over the past two years.

Most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring (30 points) Most scientists believe climate change is happening.

The stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts (14 points) About 40% was tax cuts.

Their own income taxes have gone up (14 points) Taxes have gone down. They are at their lowest in decades.

The auto bailout only occurred under Obama (13 points). It occurred under Bush and Obama.

When TARP came up for a vote most Republicans opposed it (12 points) Republicans were very dividid. Of the 247 who voted in the House and Senate, 124 supported and 123 opposed.

And that it is not clear that Obama was born in the United States (31 points) There is his birth certificate and a Hawaii newspaper that shows he was born in the U.S.

But it doesn’t surprise me that conservatives are throwing a temper tantrum over this study. While the facts clearly show that Fox spreads much misinformation and cons believe that misinformation, many people don’t want to assimilate facts that go against what they know, even if what they know isn’t true. Psychological studies back up that last statement.