‘He Defeated The Nazis!’ Piers Morgan Shuts Down Tucker Carlson Doubting WWII History, Shading Winston Churchill

British journalist Piers Morgan pushed back against Tucker Carlson after the fired Fox News host criticized Winston Churchill, claiming he did not save Western civilization in World War II.
The two former television broadcasters came together for an interview in Saudi Arabia where they discussed the meaning of Western civilization and the legacy of Churchill. During the discussion, the former Fox News star claimed that Churchill did not do enough to save Western civilization.
Morgan then pointed out that Churchill defeated Nazi Germany before asking Carlson how the former British prime minister is responsible for Europe’s current issues when he died almost 60 years ago. Carlson dismissed Churchill’s defeat of the Nazis as a “theoretical victory” for Europe.
Tucker Carlson: “People want to tell me Churchill’s an incredible guy – really? Well, why didn’t he save Western civilization?”
Piers Morgan: “He did save Western civilization, he defeated the Nazis!”
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— Piers Morgan Uncensored (@PiersUncensored) January 29, 2025
Below is their full exchange:
CARLSON: This is England. This is the country that gave free speech to the United States. This is where it all came from. This habeas corpus came from. The Magna Carta was signed here. This is Western civilization. What is it? It’s England, actually. And so if you allow it to become what it is now, Western civilization ends. I don’t think that’s overstating it at all. If Saudi Arabia fell today and became Buddhist or something, it would have a massive effect on the entire region. Like the holy sites are here, right? It’s much more significant merely than its landmass.
MORGAN: Let me ask you-
CARLSON: The same was true for your country. It was hugely significant for us in the US were your descendants and we did what you did, but with like much more land and resources. So I’m very distressed about it. So people want to tell me Churchill’s an incredible guy. Really? Well, why didn’t he save Western civilization? He didn’t even save Poland.
Speaker 2: He did save western civilization.CARLSON: How?
MORGAN: He defeated the Nazis.
CARLSON: Well I know he helped defeat the Nazis with his friend Stalin-
MORGAN: The nazis wanted the whole world to be speaking German.
CARLSON: I’m not defending the Nazis. I’m just saying, where is Western civilization? What did he preserve? Where is it? I don’t know where it is.
MORGAN: Churchill died the year before I was born. The same year.
CARLSON: He died in 63.
MORGAN: 65, I think about a month before I was born. It was a natural succession.
CARLSON: But the question was like, Where’s the victory? I don’t understand. Like, everyone wants to yell at you for not loving Churchill. Okay, well, show me the victory — no it’s a theoretical victory. He beat Hitler. Great. I’m totally for beating Hitler. Yeah, I’m totally.
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