Trump’s Commerce Secretary Reveals How Jeffrey Epstein Made Money
President Donald Trump’s Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick sat down with the New York Post’s Miranda Devine for the latest episode of her Pod Force One podcast, out Wednesday. The hour-long conversation covered a wide range of topics, including Jeffrey Epstein – who was once Lutnick’s neighbor.
Lutnick told Devine that Epstein was “gross” and added that after he and his wife left Epstein’s home on the “six to eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again.”
Devine then asked Lutnick how rich and powerful people around Epstein “could hang around him and not see what you saw, or did they see it and ignore it?”
Lutnick shot back, “They participated.”
“That’s what his MO was, you know, get a massage, get a massage. And what happened in that massage room, I assume was on video. This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever,” Lutnick added, claiming, “Blackmail people. That’s how he had money.”
“So what happened to those videos? Why is there now such a dearth of information when, you know, Donald Trump’s people are running the FBI and the DOJ?” Devine pressed.
“I assume way back when they traded those videos in exchange for him getting that 18-month sentence, which allowed him to have visits and be out of jail. I mean, he’s a serial sex offender. How could he get 18 months and be able to go to his office during the day and have visitors and stuff?” Lutnick replied, breaking with the Trump administration’s conclusion that no evidence exists that Epstein trafficked his victims to others.
“It must have been a trade. So my assumption, I have no knowledge, but my assumption is there was a trade for the videos because there were people on those videos,” he added.
“And have you talked to Donald Trump about this and shared your theory? Devine asked.
“No, I mean, he knows the story,” Lutnick replied.
“But like my story that I was one and done with the guy. He knows that story, but that’s it,” he added as Devine noted, “He would have been interested in that story.”
“I don’t know. It’s a story. It’s just a one and done – that guy, yuck,” Lutnick added.
“And did Trump feel the same way about him?” Devine pressed.
“I don’t know. I don’t speak to him about these kind of… These are just distractions,” Lutnick replied as the conversation moved away from Epstein.
Watch the clip above.
