Poor Colmes….see’s his career circling the bowl. I wonder if he says hello to Hannity when they pass in the hallway?

“I suspect a lot of people might argue the media’s love affair with Obama”

Oh yeah? So where are all the scathing reports and microscope on Democrats? Where are the Mediaite stories on the revolving door of Democrats who work in the media? Where are those stories at all?

Fox News=arm of the GOP. Anyone with any degree of average intellectual abilities knows this.

AngelPeters said:
Fox News=arm of the GOP. Anyone with any degree of average intellectual abilities knows this.

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, TIME, Newsweek, The NYT (the list goes on) = Arm of the DNC.

So, whats your point?

Fox,Talk Radio,Weekly Standard,National Review,Forbes,NY Post, I know there is more for Republicans!!

AngelPeters said:
Anyone with any degree of average intellectual abilities knows this.

The point poor Angel is trying to say is she and her liberal friends are far “above in intellectual abilities” then Conservatives.

The “intellectual” argument, like “racist” argument is really all they have left to throw at us.

Poor poor Angle, it must be tough being so smart and to know so much more than the masses.

Alan Colmes is delusional! And as usual he is disingenuous. No Democrat would ever work for FNC. Ever. FNC Derangement Syndrome comes with your DNC Gold Card. Not even HRC would have a chance if she were a FNC contributor. That would be the DNC kiss of death. A Potential Democratic Pres Nominee on FNC would make the Howard Dean Scream look like Hope & Change.

chucken said:
Fox,Talk Radio,Weekly Standard,National Review,Forbes,NY Post

Wow Chicken…you just named the organizations that are the only ones who are still reasonably financially.

No wonder Obama wants to go after these people, they are the only ones making any money…the rest are hanging with a shoe string. Which one of those left wing rag’s was sold for a $1? That is showing them how it is done allright.

I thought a candidate had to actually declare his/her candidacy to be a candidate.

I saw that Fox News Watch.
For once someone finally had the balls to speak up against the Righty talking points on that show.
As Colmes challenged the idiocy all anyone else could do was giggle like morons.

He did much better than Ellis or Kristen or Juan or Judith ever did. It reminded me of the old days of Jane and Neil.

He wont be invited back.

Karl Rove,Sean Hannity,Sarah Palin,Newt Gingrich,Mike Huckabee,Dick Morris,Rick Santorum, John Bolton,all three Fox and Friends nitwits get unchallenged TV time as solo hosts or Fox contributors and GOP candidates Christine O’Donnell,Sharon Angle,Jan Brewer who are scared shitless to go anywhere else but softball Fox interviews can raise money,bash Democracts and freely promote the Republican Party without even the hint of fair and balanced.And don’t forget the fake Deomcracts Juan Willaims,Pat Cadell,Kristin Powers,Doug Schoen.

In all fairness, not everyone can play it as straight down the middle as MSNBC.

Good one Colmes. There’s cozy with the press, and then there’s on the payroll.

Glynnis’ headline: “Colmes Challenges Fox News Watch: What About All The GOP Candidates Working For Fox News?”

Glynnis’ story: “Alan Colmes had another point, namely, if you want to talk about media love affairs how about all these prospective GOP candidates who currently work for Fox News?”

Quite a difference, darlin’.

I love how people like Chucken deride talk radio as an arm of the Republican party. What they never mention is that he left has had ample opportunity in that arena and the free market has sent them packing every time. Who’s fault is that?

exiled truther you are either a liar or just stupid.

The largest radio conglomerates are owned by and operated by Republican leaning companies such as Clear Channel. Think they are going to give liberal talkers like Mike Malloy prime radio slots? Not a chance. They have an agenda, and that agenda is corporate, which aligns with the GOP agenda. Pay your staff like shit, little or no benefits, tax loopholes out the ass and divisive hate radio that pulls listeners.

They will never give the best slots to the left and they own the biggest stations in every city with the largest wattage so that effectively no rival can compete.

Given an equal opp, the left talkers could and would compete and even win in multiple markets.

There has been an unspoken rule on FNW ever since they cleaned house of all the real liberals….”Do not criticize Fox News”. Colmes broke that rule.

If you want to watch real news media analysis watch Reliable Sources. Howard isn’t afraid to criticize his bosses.

shootfromthehip said:
exiled truther you are either a liar or just stupid.

The largest radio conglomerates are owned by and operated by Republican leaning companies such as Clear Channel. Think they are going to give liberal talkers like Mike Malloy prime radio slots? Not a chance. They have an agenda blah blah blah

Maybe you don’t know how the market works. If you believe you have a good business plan and can find the investors, you don’t need to rely on established sources. And I can guarantee you that if your plan looks good, you’ll find the money. Investors are not stupid.

Old news. All of this was covered very well by Politico two weeks ago in “Fox primary: complicated, contractual”.

It’s obviously in the best interests of all the “Fox candidates” to hold off annoucing a candidacy for as long as possible. Fox is giving them priceless free publicity. Other candidates, e.g., Romney and Pawlenty, are not as fortunate. They’ve already begun campaigning and building a national staff.

Oddly enough, the one person whose decision is the only one the media cares about can afford to wait the longest to announce. Sarah Palin has unparalleled name recognition (good and bad), so it’s not like she has to introduce herself. Plus, she doesn’t have to worry about building staff in every state. As soon as she announces, a nationwide system of volunteers will be available. The only question is: can she match someone like Haley Barbour (I know, that accent is a killer but he might run) in fund raising. Her recent meeting with conservative leaders in Florida may be part of finding out what kind of serious money is available for a Palin run (she’ll get a ton thru the internet-much more then champ Michele Bachmann).

BTW, she has a 76% approval rating among those filthy Rethuglicans. I know, the country hates her, but first things first. And the first thing for any candidate is to get nominated.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42745.html

If Fox News is an arm of the GOP then at least it’s a step forward, instead of the Democrats and Obama administration leading with a 5:0, we now have a 5:1 score at least.

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Azarkhan said:
(she’ll get a ton thru the internet-much more then champ Michele Bachmann).

Excuse me. I was thinking about the 2010 election. Pres Obama is the all time champ:

10/19/2008
Senator Barack Obama’s announcement on Sunday of his record-shattering $150 million fund-raising total for September underscored just how much his campaign has upended standards for raising money in presidential campaigns.

His campaign has now raised more than $600 million, almost equaling what all the candidates from both major parties collected in private donations in 2004…

An examination of Mr. Obama’s intake in September lends credence to arguments by both sides. David Plouffe, the Obama campaign manager, said in a video message sent to supporters that Mr. Obama had 632,000 new donors in September, bringing the campaign’s total to 3.1 million. The average contribution, Mr. Plouffe said, was less than $100.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/us/politics/20donate.html

I find it so interesting that a rightist news organization goes to such lengths to deny its mission. Why is FOX “News” ashamed to admit it is a Republican organization?

Glynnis: A better headline would have been:

Colmes gets his facts wrong.

No one has declared candidacy so Colmes is just making it up (well, he is a liberal so we can understand that). But you as a columnist here who is supposed to provide informative headlines about the news blew it again.

That’s twice in one day Glynnis….between this one and the distortion you provided regarding the Gov candidate from NY and the homosexual comment have completely missed the mark. What’s up with that? You usually have much better articles….stop learning from Tommy, ok?

The Real Royal King said:
I find it so interesting that a rightist news organization goes to such lengths to deny its mission. Why is FOX “News” ashamed to admit it is a Republican organization?

They realize that everyone aside from their viewers knows this. I suppose it’s a business strategy in some way, I guess. Well, then again, I’ve known plenty of conservatives who are proud of the way Fox distorts and misleads, while serving as a propaganda arm for the Republican party. The “Fair and Balanced” motto is delivered with a wink and nod, so to speak.

I wonder if anything would change if they renamed the station appropriately, such as “The Republican News Network”.

The Real Royal King said:
Why is FOX “News” ashamed to admit it is a Republican organization?

Is MSNBC ashamed? Oh right, they don’t care if everyone knows that they are partisan leftists:

Guthrie asks Meek, “[if Marco] Rubio wins, can you live with your role in that?”
Todd was slightly less… depressing, but still was fairly straightforward about the numbers, addressing Meek as if he were trying to convince a good friend to stop obsessing over that supermodel whose number he’s never going to get. “The math is just daunting, Congressman,” he notes, asking, somewhat rhetorically, “What is more important: sort of making a point and trying to finish second between the two of you, or is it more important to try to prevent Marco Rubio from winning?”

Some_Dude said:
They realize that everyone aside from their viewers knows this. I suppose it’s a business strategy in some way, I guess. Well, then again, I’ve known plenty of conservatives who are proud of the way Fox distorts and misleads, while serving as a propaganda arm for the Republican party. The “Fair and Balanced” motto is delivered with a wink and nod, so to speak. I wonder if anything would change if they renamed the station appropriately, such as “The Republican News Network”.

You’re right, of course. I just think the lengths to deny, the shame to admit are denigrating to the Republican party.

Michelle F truther the reason the left has not been successful in talk radio is as a cancer progressive liberal there is no way in hell I’m going to listen for 3 hours to a liberal host on radio with 22 minutes of commercials and promos per hour do what is really an extended political attack ad you normally see in 30 second spots.Issues are COMPLICATED!! You need more than former disc jockeys thinking they have all the wisdom in the world.

BatBoy said:
The point poor Angel is trying to say is she and her liberal friends are far “above in intellectual abilities” then Conservatives.

The “intellectual” argument, like “racist” argument is really all they have left to throw at us.

Poor poor Angle, it must be tough being so smart and to know so much more than the masses.

Unfortunately for BatBoy he hasn’t really followed my posts. His misconceptions are self-evident.

chucken said:
Michelle F truther the reason the left has not been successful in talk radio is as a cancer progressive liberal there is no way in hell I’m going to listen for 3 hours to a liberal host on radio with 22 minutes of commercials and promos per hour do what is really an extended political attack ad you normally see in 30 second spots.Issues are COMPLICATED!! You need more than former disc jockeys thinking they have all the wisdom in the world.

You don’t have to listen to Lard Limbaugh or the Beckerhead long before you realize you are expected to leave your brains in the medicine cabinet and bring yourself into rigid conformity with every political idea they have. Moderates, progressives and liberals simply don’t think or speak with rigid conformity. But, you’re right, the shows are deathly dull. The subject ends up being the host, inevitably. I don’t want that, whoever the host is. I guess I’m more a Charlie Rose kind of guy.

Royal King,Charlie Rose??The guy is smart as hell and he does cover a lot of ground that no one else even comes close to.But I think my attention span has been permanently damaged by years of Limbaugh and his wannabes.

AngelPeters said:
Unfortunately for BatBoy he hasn’t really followed my posts. His misconceptions are self-evident.

Not really.

The Real Royal King said:
You don’t have to listen to Lard Limbaugh or the Beckerhead long before you realize you are expected to leave your brains in the medicine cabinet and bring yourself into rigid conformity with every political idea they have. Moderates, progressives and liberals simply don’t think or speak with rigid conformity. But, you’re right, the shows are deathly dull. The subject ends up being the host, inevitably. I don’t want that, whoever the host is. I guess I’m more a Charlie Rose kind of guy.

Oh, my lord. How many media people (excluding nonmedia morons here) have we heard mouthing this crap about FNC and Republican candidates when none of them yet have declared their candidacy and any halfway reputable Republican IS a consideration because, unfortunately, there is yet to a Republican frontrunner?

My lord! Can these folks be upfront and/or realistic about ANY FREAK’N thing?

Cecelia said:
Oh, my lord. How many media people (excluding nonmedia morons here) have we heard mouthing this crap about FNC and Republican candidates when none of them yet have declared their candidacy and any halfway reputable Republican IS a consideration because, unfortunately, there is yet to a Republican frontrunner? My lord! Can these folks be upfront and/or realistic about ANY FREAK’N thing?

Well, Cecelia, it’s not as if they are not using FOX to unfold their primary campaigns. When I see a pot of boiling water on the stove and a carton of eggs on he counter, I get out the mayonaise because I know what’s coming.

The Real Royal King said:
Well, Cecelia, it’s not as if they are not using FOX to unfold their primary campaigns. When I see a pot of boiling water on the stove and a carton of eggs on he counter, I get out the mayonaise because I know what’s coming.

Well, then you could have suggested the same when Chris Matthew was pondering a run for the senate. When Alan Keyes graced their lineup and when Howard Dean was opining there every night.

I’d ask you to get real, but you somehow irrevocably lost that ability long ago.

Cecelia said:
Well, then you could have suggested the same when Chris Matthew was pondering a run for the senate. When Alan Keyes graced their lineup and when Howard Dean was opining there every night. I’d ask you to get real, but you somehow irrevocably lost that ability long ago.

All improper.

Don’t be so defensive. No one is picking on your precious FOX “News”.

The Real Royal King said:
All improper.

Don’t be so defensive. No one is picking on your precious FOX “News”.

Of course they are. Are you so disingenuous that you can’t read a damn headline?

NPR has an average of 7.6 million daily listeners, which reflects the fact, in part, that matching production values with commercial outlets is easier to do on radio than on TV. Still, NPR’s Morning Edition draws nearly the same size audience as ABC’s Good Morning America and NBC’s Today show combined.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR2009032302972.html

Clearly, there is a large demand for journalism that does more than just repeat the banalities of weekend box office receipts, holiday travel snafus, and political horse races. It’s a mistake for any news outlet to think that credibility can be so easily bought and sold. There’s plenty of blame all around, but in America, the cleanest is NPR, and the dirtiest is Fox News.

Paul Westlake said:
Clearly, there is a large demand for journalism that does more than just repeat the banalities of weekend box office receipts, holiday travel snafus, and political horse races

Actually those are precisely the rudimentary things that media outlets should report.

Paul Westlake said:
t’s a mistake for any news outlet to think that credibility can be so easily bought and sold. There’s plenty of blame all around, but in America, the cleanest is NPR, and the dirtiest is Fox News.

I suppose that we’re supposed to take your word for this. You’ve no particular political point of view, of course, anymore than does NPR…

Paul Westlake said:
There’s plenty of blame all around, but in America, the cleanest is NPR

LOL

It is rather funny that Libs were so hell-bent on redistributing wealth and playing with their socialist Tinker-Toy set that they forgot about their precious ‘Fairness Doctrine’ that was supposed to muzzle dissent from the radio airwaves. They’ll need a few more fingers in the dike to make any meaningful impact on the avalanche of dissent cascading down upon 1600 PA Ave.

Cecelia said:
Actually those are precisely the rudimentary things that media outlets should report.

Really, you need a reporter to go to the airport and tell you it’s crowded on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving? You need an anchor to wast two minutes of air time describing the profits earned by movies most conservatives consider liberal brainwashing? You need Candy Crowley to spend an entire hour talking about political tactics instead of issues? Isn’t that the very thing conservatives have been shouting about vis-a-vis the Tea Party candidates? Can’t you people keep your stories straight? LOL

Cecelia said:
I suppose that we’re supposed to take your word for this. You’ve no particular political point of view, of course, anymore than does NPR…

Azarkhan said:
LOL

Funny, considering conservatives have been trying to convince liberals on these boards that Fox’s ratings are proof positive of their centrist appeal. You see numbers like NPR blowing Fox out of the water and that little meme dries up faster than an open mouth in Death Valley. Funny… real funny.

People watch Fox because Fox generally does a better job. It’s that simple.

Paul Westlake said:
Really, you need a reporter to go to the airport and tell you it’s crowded on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving? You need an anchor to wast two minutes of air time describing the profits earned by movies most conservatives consider liberal brainwashing? You need Candy Crowley to spend an entire hour talking about political tactics instead of issues? Isn’t that the very thing conservatives have been shouting about vis-a-vis the Tea Party candidates? Can’t you people keep your stories straight? LOL

I don’t know about “you people keeping your stories straight”, but yes, it has traditionally been the media’s role to inform the public about political horse races, political snafus, and weekend box office receipts.

That you would associate any of THAT with a biased outlook on “political tactics”, but insinuate that NPR’s take on political “issues” contains none of that, is the sort of logic that speaks volumes.

Oh, please. NPR doesn’t come close to the level of bombast in commercial broadcasting. One of the reasons many people ignore PBS and forget about NPR is because they can barely cut through the thick fog of war between the commercial outlets. And when it comes to the issues they tackle and the credibility of their reporting, again, you can’t find that level of consistency anywhere else. There’s no comparison on either front – NPR wins hands down. And many lefties would argue that the Newshour on PBS is right-of-center. AND, the only administration that put an open partisan atop the CPB was the Bushies.

I didn’t say anything about political snafus, I said holiday travel snafus. Political foibles are just fine, but rehashing polls and hammering away at the preconceived narrative because that’s what they prepared for, instead of following the actual stories where they lead, is the M.O. of most commercial broadcast news. And that’s not found to anywhere near the same degree at NPR.

If you only took in MSM news you would already be a No Nothing. Then when you look at how it’s divvied up, the big question is why is all of the right wing conservative stuff in just one box, admittedly, it’s a big box, but it’s one single entity called Fox. One then thinks that there must be limitations on how much rightwing stuff the public can take, otherwise the other networks would hire more rightwing propagandists and ‘newscasters’ The lies and distortions and shennanigans on Fox are way beyond anything that goes on CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and , of course PBS and NPR. It’s so obvious that Rupert Murdoch is the most immoral person operating in worldwide media. Fox is willing to go where even the other slimeballs won’t go, and they have been very successful in creating a huge, totally walled off audience. I’ve met Alan Colmes a few times over the year and he’s a very nice guy and he was caught in an awkward position for a time as Sean Hannity’s punching bag. He must be eating his Wheaties these days to speak out on Fox. I was myself a talk radio ‘personality’ for a few years on public radio and elsewhere and a number of years ago I even tried out on ABC talk radio, but was deemed not trustworthy enough. Someone mentioned it in one of the comments, and I think we should start referring to Fox as the Republican News Network (RNN). It’s amazing that rightwingers don’t get how ostracized they are. 20-30% of the votes won’t get you the big fat Havana cigar you’re so salivating for.

So, it’s pretty obvious that Fox is currently spreading hate and working some good old “divide and conquer”. There must be some way to stop it?
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shootfromthehip said:
exiled truther you are either a liar or just stupid.

The largest radio conglomerates are owned by and operated by Republican leaning companies such as Clear Channel.

I’ll concede the fact your are just stupid. The majority of Clear Channel stations have Top 40, country and hip hop programming,

shootfromthehip said:
exiled truther you are either a liar or just stupid. The largest radio conglomerates are owned by and operated by Republican leaning companies such as Clear Channel. Think they are going to give liberal talkers like Mike Malloy prime radio slots? Not a chance. They have an agenda, and that agenda is corporate, which aligns with the GOP agenda. Pay your staff like shit, little or no benefits, tax loopholes out the ass and divisive hate radio that pulls listeners. They will never give the best slots to the left and they own the biggest stations in every city with the largest wattage so that effectively no rival can compete. Given an equal opp, the left talkers could and would compete and even win in multiple markets.

Michelle in Utah can be both. She is.

VRWC Destruction Machine said:
I’ll concede the fact your are just stupid. The majority of Clear Channel stations have Top 40, country and hip hop programming,

Most of those stations have morning drive programs and nearly all of those feature conservative hosts.

Next!

Remember Air America!!

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Fox News convince their viewers to only watch and trust them. So while other news outlets are reporting on Republican hypocrisy in regards to the stimulus bill Fox News is silent. If a Fox news viewer see a report about Republicans touting jobs that were created in their home district it is automatically dismissed as being liberal bias story because they only trust Fox News.
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