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Glenn Beck Restored Honor, Asked Questions – And Jesus Was His Answer

by Steve Krakauer | 12:53 pm, August 30th, 2010

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Midway through Glenn Beck‘s “Restoring Honor” rally Saturday I walked in the press area over to the front of the crowd and asked one woman how she was able to get so close. She got to her location on Thursday at 1pm. Was she enjoying herself, I asked her.

She nodded slowly, in exaggerated sincerity. But then her tone changed – it was no longer about her, already a true believer, a fan. “Are you?” she asked me. “Are you learning something?” That was the event in a nutshell.

People who predicted a low turn out for the rally were proven wrong – as were people who predicted it would be a political event. Instead, this became a religious experience, an enormous revival that asked important, broad questions and answered simply with: Jesus Christ. (Here are two great takes on the 8/28 rally, from a conservative and a religion expert.)

Beck admits what this became, in characteristic peek-behind-the-curtain honesty. “I thought it was supposed to be political,” he remembered when he initially announced the event back in November. But he said he quickly changed his mind. “I don’t know how, but we’re wrong,” said Beck, instead focusing on what this has become – about faith, hope and charity.

Even Sarah Palin‘s presence didn’t change that theme, as Beck announced she was “asked to speak as a mother of a soldier, not as a politician.” (And she did, briefly but passionately.) But it was through this lens, faith over policy, that Beck’s event starred Jesus Christ and not Pres. Barack Obama. More than once, Beck himself said “God is the answer.” Some times the religious undertones were subtle (“I testify to you here and now, one man can change the world”) while other times they were more blatant (“It is my joy and my honor to tithe 10%”).

And it went beyond Beck. Each of the medal recipients (one each for faith, honor and charity) spoke about Jesus. Pastor C.L. Jackson, who saw Martin Luther King, Jr. speak 47 years before, said “we have to be covenant warriors of Christ.” Albert Pujols, MLB all-star who “found Jesus” 12 years ago, said, “My job as a baseball player is to share the gospel of Jesus Christ.” Billionaire Jon M. Huntsman, who was not in attendance, had his representative say he “brings greeting in the name of the lord and savior Jesus Christ.”

Those who were convinced Beck would stoke fears were sadly let down. The Fox News host said, “We must get the poison of hatred out of us…We must look to love.” Also, “Our churches, our synagogues, our mosques, we must stand for the things that are true.” Meanwhile the Native American leader who introduced Pastor Jackson spoke idealistically about people who are “able to keep peace and not start wars.”

When it wasn’t directly religious, it was instead inspirational platitudes. “To restore honor we must restore ourselves,” said one Beck video voiceover. “We as individuals must be good so America can be great.”

That’s not to say the crowd was full of Democrats. Beck noted at one point that one of the speakers was a Democrats “who organized for Obama” as if it was so shocking such a thing would occur. And of course the breakdown among race was quite obviously almost universally white. That doesn’t mean it was full of racists – Alveda King probably got the loudest ovation – but it’s just a fact.

It’s not clear what Glenn Beck wants to be. Clearly, he is a multi-platform star who is on the precipice of something. Who else could bring out 200,000+ individuals to the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to talk about history, and honor and Jesus? Very few people in the public sphere. Maybe there’s one thing everyone can agree on, even Beck’s detractors. Several times Beck made the Moses analogy, commanding the audience to “pick up your stick.” At one point as we watched Beck’s speech, and the emotional crowd response, and he urged the crowd again to “pick up your stick,” Glynnis MacNicol turned to me and said, “that’s going to be a T-shirt.”

And the Beck machine rolls along…

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Another tsunami coming! Head for the hills!
Lurker

You guys see this?

http://www.therightscoop.com/gods-majestic-geese-flyover-at-828-rally
Azarkhan

“it was no longer about her, already a true believer, a fan”

I’m not surprised Steve recognized it. It’s just like the Obots with The One.
Hugo Daun

Lurker said:
You guys see this?

http://www.therightscoop.com/gods-majestic-geese-flyover-at-828-rally

A flock of geese was a sign from god???

That’s some funny shit, right there.
BatBoy

Im Shocked….

MSNBC Erroneously Reports Michelle Bachmann and Dick Armey Would Speak at Beck Rally

http://www.breitbart.tv/msnbc-erroneously-reports-michelle-bachmann-and-dick-armey-would-speak-at-beck-rally/
Hugo Daun

Oh, there was certainly a dick army at he rally….
Penguin60

And of course the breakdown among race was quite obviously almost universally white. That doesn’t mean it was full of racists –Alveda King probably got the loudest ovation – but it’s just a fact.

My guess is you didn’t ask chrissy hissy fit, or olberdork. Don’t worry the douche bags will turn it into a racist thing. It’s sad that a group of white people have to be described as “not full of racists”.
Permatiltx

So, the big message, the thing that would change America. Something that would match Lincoln, or raising the flag on Iwo Jima, or other great moments in the annals of American history is, Turn to God? Um…(blank stare)…well, I mean…that’s…um…pretty much the thing that’s said at every church, synagogue, mosque, etc. in this country for the past how many years? How is it different that he said it in front of the Lincoln Memorial? Look, I’m all for turning to God during times of trouble, but how does this change America, exactly? And how does it restore honor? And, oh, I don’t care anymore. Why does anyone care anymore about this?
BatBoy

Permatiltx said:
I’m all for turning to God during times of trouble,

but how does this change America, exactly?

And how does it restore honor?

And, oh, I don’t care anymore.

If you have to ask, you wouldn’t understand the answer! The reason you wouldn’t understand is in your last sentance above!
paulmdoro

One doesn’t need God to have honor.
Azarkhan

I’m waiting for the Coffee Party to have a huge rally. I’m sure they would if they could just find a Starbucks that’s big enough.
paulmdoro

Azarkhan said:
I’m waiting for the Coffee Party to have a huge rally. I’m sure they would if they could just find a Starbucks that’s big enough.

I love coffee. I’m having a coffee party right now.
in my humble opinion

IT IS STILL “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY”. DO SOME RESEARCH AS TO THE LAST TIME BECK WENT TO CHURCH SERVICES?. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE DONATED A TO THE POOR? IF HE DID, HE WOULD DO SO FOR A TAX DEDUCTION.
BECK MAKES A LOT OF MONEY. I WOULD LIKE HIM TO HAITI OR THE GULF TO HELP OUT. C,MON PEOPLE.
BECK IS ALL ABOUT BECK, WHICH IS “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY”
bamman

Great (and very fair) article, Steve.
Permatiltx

BatBoy said:
If you have to ask, you wouldn’t understand the answer! The reason you wouldn’t understand is in your last sentance above!

Seriously? That’s how you want to answer the question? Okay, so answer me this, since preachers and pastors, (from legitimate to snake oil) have been saying the exact same thing for well over 200 years or so. How is it different now? How is this going to change America? Since, most Americans worship God, and I’m pretty sure that most of the masses were already turning to God before Beck said it. Again, how does this restore honor? I need more than, You wouldn’t understand. Thing is, I, like you, am an American, so why doesn’t this resonate with me? So, only those who believe in God can restore honor and save this country. I call Bullshit and Major Cop Out on that one.
Nachi

Where is Jesus’ birth certificate!!??
Permatiltx

In other words, did he come up with a bold, new, historic solution, or just said the exact same (Goddamn) thing that’s been heard from Christian leaders throughout the centuries? Again, what was so life changing? Did anyone at that rally say, “Oh, go with God, that’s what I’ve been fucking up on all these years. Okay, I’ll give that a try.”
SpineCrusher

Nachi said:
Where is Jesus’ birth certificate!!??

BWAAHAHAHA!!
PureFreedom

IT IS STILL “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY”. DO SOME RESEARCH AS TO THE LAST TIME BECK WENT TO CHURCH SERVICES?. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE DONATED A TO THE POOR? IF HE DID, HE WOULD DO SO FOR A TAX DEDUCTION.
BECK MAKES A LOT OF MONEY. I WOULD LIKE HIM TO HAITI OR THE GULF TO HELP OUT. C,MON PEOPLE.
BECK IS ALL ABOUT BECK, WHICH IS “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY”

Wear is the money Obama won for the Nobel Peace Prize? Why was the Obama’s the lowest presidential family in recent history on donations? What about his book money? Last I heard his faith is in the preacher Rev Wright hand. You can say the same things about the Obamas.
http://SailRabbits.com Magister

I agree that it marks something, Mr. Beck was able to gather hundreds of thousands primarily through self-promotion, when it hasn’t been clear to anyone what the event would entail. In other words, hundreds of thousands turned out on faith that Glenn Beck would put on a good show.

As for the actual content, my grandmother went through a Billy Graham phase back in the late 70s, early 80s and this meant that whenever he was near my hometown, my she’d come to visit and we’d all go with her to every moment of his “crusade”. The production values, presentation and underlying theme were somewhat reminiscent of Reverend Graham’s show.

Which leads me to theorize that if Glenn Beck and if she’s interested, Sarah Palin were to put together a “Jim & Tammy Bakker” satellite channel and if they were to borrow heavily from Pat Robertson’s Family Channel, there would be no limits placed on their message and if history is any guide, they’d generate tons of wealth.
stoogedudes

Since there was little, if any, politics in the rally, I actually enjoyed the rally and agreed with a lot of it. I’m a religious man, although my faith has faltered and I admit, I’m haven’t accepted Jesus as much as I should.

My family has gone through rough times lately, and two very special people in my life have decided to quit drinking. Knowing how alcohol has become a part of them, the fact that I’m able to talk on the phone to them on a Saturday night without detecting that they are drunk is a good sign and I’m sure that the Lord has His hand in it.

I don’t begrudge atheists or those who aren’t Christians, but it is nice to be able to have something to follow, something to have faith in.

If the rally were to turn political, I’d have turned the channel. But this country could use a little help from above and it was nice to hear Glenn speak on this. Think what you will about Sarah Palin, but she did raise a great family and she should be given credit for raising a soldier.

And I’m a huge Cardinal fan so it was great to see Albert Pujols and hear his message.

Yeah, I’m a liberal, but I’m glad I was able to overcome my anti-Beck and anti-Palin bias to watch something that was uplifting. I didn’t want to hear how evil Obama was or any of that nonsense, so I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw on Saturday.

I hope I didn’t lose my fellow liberals on this, but this was just my two cents.
Nachi

Have any of you deep intellectuals taken the time to see the nifty work God is currently performing in, say, Pakistan??
Larkinvos

I’ve got news for you, Albert. Your job as a baseball player is definitively NOT to, “…share the gospel of Jesus Christ.” A quick look at your contract, which pays you millions of dollars each year, will confirm this.
lanquihue

Hugo Daun said:
A flock of geese was a sign from god???

No, it was a sign that a flock of geese passed overhead. That is coincided with this event is pure chance, but for you to take a shit on people who appreciated the symbolism is an example of why so many people think liberals are fucken assholes.
lanquihue

Nachi said:
Where is Jesus’ birth certificate!!??

If he were running for president of the USA, that might be an issue. As it is, you’re just another left wing retard.
lanquihue

And isn’t it funny how so many people who suck up to the muslims have not a shred of decency when it comes to their Christian commentary.
chucken

We now have multiple Glenn Becks.The 8/28 Beck no hatred, no poison, and he is just like God but better!The radio TV Beck progressives are a cancer,and or Commies or Marxists who hate this country,and Obama’s dead mother,father,and grandparents are subject to vicious personal attacks as of course Commies and or Marxists.And the huckster Beck shilling gold coins,ghost written books and worthless shit on his web site.We already have lots of places of worship without standing for hours in the DC sun hearing from this fucking con artist.
lovelee

great reporting´: fair & unbiased (i watched the entire 3 hours on cspan & was very impressed by the sophisticated sucker punch Beck dealt to those who, like me, had prejudged his hijacking of the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Jr.)

i do however feel that you may have missed the best T-Shirt line to come out of this event,
(as ‘Christ noted “No one is a prophet in his own country” (Matthew 13/57)
i do so hope you’ll open a mediaite gift-shop and offer us your very own wonderful take on the T-Shirt saviour
“Beck’s event starred Jesus Chris and not Pres. Barack Obama.”

Your “Jesus Chris” beats Beck’s biblical “guy with a stick” every day of the week & twice on sundays
murphy0071

Glenn Beck does not follow Christ or show his love and compassion, so just what part of being a “Chrisian” don’t he and most of his Tea Party freaks get wrong. They don’t know church history, the Bible, the hatred and bigotry at the heart of the Christian Church, which by the way does not represent anything Christ ever said or did. Now Saul of Taursus, the fake Christian who fell of a donkey in the desert with heat stroke and had delusions and hallucinations that still plague the modern church, particularly Roman Catholics and the Pope.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Beck wants to turn over a new leaf? He hasn’t found Jesus, he’s found a tune that rings true for the uber-religious members of his following.

Jesus was all about helping the poor; Beck is all about helping himself.

Chucken is right; we have multiple Glenn Becks, but that is nothing new. Beck says that he’s a recovering dirtbag, and his interview with Fox after his rally indicates that he still has a long way to go just to understand the issues HE raises such as Liberation Theology. He’s still clueless.

He’s also dangerous: http://www.sharethusurlaboutglennbeck.com
Michael_T

I have been thinking about what Glenn Beck said to Wallace yesterday when asked if he would consider a Beck-Palin 2012 ticket. His comment was revealing IMO when he commented (surprisingly) that he is still looking for a candidate with honor and integrity and he hasn’t found one yet.

Why would he make a broad statement (and condemnation) about the entire GOP field?

The most reasonable explanation is that he is INDEED keeping his options open to run for president – either with the GOP or with a 3rd party. I would not bet against it.
DonnaK

Beck is on the rehab tour of his life, starting with apologizing for calling President Obama a racist. It was not a sincere apology, but enough to convince some people. Evidently, he and others were getting worried about the image he was presenting, and are interested in rehabbing the Tea Party image. Most people have their own beliefs and they don’t conincide with Glenn Beck, people are scared & worried, but people like Beck will never get the majority of Americans to believe the way Beck & Palin do.!!!
Hugo Daun

lanquihue said:
…for you to take a shit on people who appreciated the symbolism is an example of why so many people think liberals are fucken assholes.

Symbolism, Schmimbolism!

Geese are disgusting critters, dude, and no doubt those feathered minions of the lord were taking many shits on those symbolism-citing fools!
Unless you were the recipient of one of their little presents from heaven, I don’t understand why you’ve got your frilly little underthings so tangled.

And, for the record, just because I think Beck and his cheerleaders are hysterical, that doesn’t necessarily make me (or anyone who agrees with that view) a “liberal”, although I can certainly be an asshole, at times.
bamman

Michael_T said:
His comment was revealing IMO when he commented (surprisingly) that he is still looking for a candidate with honor and integrity and he hasn’t found one yet.

Why would he make a broad statement (and condemnation) about the entire GOP field?

The most reasonable explanation is that he is INDEED keeping his options open to run for president – either with the GOP or with a 3rd party. I would not bet against it.

Or maybe, just maybe, he still thinks that most, if not all, politicians are weasels.
JesusBlogger

I’m thrilled about the rally and the message that it gave to everyone. If the atheists were offended or outraged GET OVER IT! I also put up an article about it, including all the videos in case you missed it here: http://www.jesusblogspot.com/2010/08/glen-beck-at-lincoln-memorial-call-for.html
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

stoogedudes says: “I’m a liberal, but I’m glad I was able to overcome my anti-Beck and anti-Palin bias to watch something that was uplifting. I didn’t want to hear how evil Obama was or any of that nonsense, so I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw on Saturday.”

It’s OK to have God and country combined? Because that is what Rev. Beck is aiming for. StoogeDudes: read between the lines.
lanquihue

GlennBeckReview said:
He’s also dangerous: http://www.sharethusurlaboutglennbeck.com

Hey, here’s another one for you: http://gbrisafuckenretard.blogspot.com/
CosmosDan

BatBoy said:
Im Shocked….

MSNBC Erroneously Reports Michelle Bachmann and Dick Armey Would Speak at Beck Rally

http://www.breitbart.tv/msnbc-erroneously-reports-michelle-bachmann-and-dick-armey-would-speak-at-beck-rally/

Bachman had a political rally right after Beck’s in the same area, urging Tea Partiers not to throw out all the incumbents. So , she didn’t speak at the rally, but she did use it’s crowd for a rally of her own.
Thelonious Funk

Is it the Jesus who wrote the Constitution, hates any social program that benefits the poor, loves the conquest of foreign countries, and believes war is a virture; or is it the real one?
CosmosDan

JesusBlogger said:
I’m thrilled about the rally and the message that it gave to everyone. If the atheists were offended or outraged GET OVER IT! I also put up an article about it, including all the videos in case you missed it here: http://www.jesusblogspot.com/2010/08/glen-beck-at-lincoln-memorial-call-for.html

It’s not just the atheists who might object. America is more diverse than ever before and will continue in that trend. There are atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Muslims, and those who are spiritual with no attachment to any religion. It’s fine to focus on the principles that a broad spectrum of people can support, but it’s a mistake to focus on any one religion. It won’t help unite us as Americans.
Michael_T

I had to watch the Wallace interview twice, but I finally have a handle on what Glenn Beck’s message is. I also listened to Beck’s interview with black radio host Madison.

In true Libertarian tradition he doesn’t want the government setting policy – especially when it comes to social justice.

What he wants is for people to turn to God and have good character. His messags is, “If we all do this we won’t have to pass laws that allow minorities better access. If we are all good citizens then minorities will prosper just like whites.” This is what he is calling justice.

It is not altogether different from Rand Paul’s suggestion that we don’t need laws to force businesses to serve minorities or provide access for the handicapped.

Seems extreme and unrealistic to me. But he certainly has a large number of people who agree with him.
CosmosDan

DonnaK said:
Beck is on the rehab tour of his life, starting with apologizing for calling President Obama a racist. It was not a sincere apology, but enough to convince some people. Evidently, he and others were getting worried about the image he was presenting, and are interested in rehabbing the Tea Party image. Most people have their own beliefs and they don’t conincide with Glenn Beck, people are scared & worried, but people like Beck will never get the majority of Americans to believe the way Beck & Palin do.!!!

Did he apologize? I didn’t hear that? I heard he said he regretted saying it, but also didn’t retract it. He made some reference to liberation theology and mentioned the Pope thinks it’s demonic. It seems odd to me that he holds this thing on MLK day and honors Rev King and civil rights, and then the next day won’t retract calling our President a racist with a deep seated hatred for white people.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Canaan/666670819 Terry Canaan

It’s all downhill from here folks. The fad has peaked and now comes the decline.
CosmosDan

Michael_T said:
I had to watch the Wallace interview twice, but I finally have a handle on what Glenn Beck’s message is. I also listened to Beck’s interview with black radio host Madison.

In true Libertarian tradition he doesn’t want the government setting policy – especially when it comes to social justice.

What he wants is for people to turn to God and have good character. His messags is, “If we all do this we won’t have to pass laws that allow minorities better access. If we are all good citizens then minorities will prosper just like whites.” This is what he is calling justice.

It is not altogether different from Rand Paul’s suggestion that we don’t need laws to force businesses to serve minorities or provide access for the handicapped.

Seems extreme and unrealistic to me. But he certainly has a large number of people who agree with him.

I don’t disagree with the sentiment but we have to realize that there’s a long way to go to get to that Utopia {if we ever do} In the meantime, how do we deal with the specifics of issues while we work on our character? More than that, in a widely diverse culture focusing on one religion is going to raise some problems.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Jones/1384303476 Chris Jones

Good article, Steve. Thanks for being fair.
paulmdoro

Why is Beck questioning the legitimacy of the president’s religious beliefs when 45% of Evangelical Christians do not believe that Mormons are true Christians? Is he really in any position to offer judgment in that department?
tigerprez

MSNBC is now reporting that there were actually less than 5000 people at the rally and that Beck lynched Martin Luther King’s niece (and several other minorities) to the rapturous cheers of the crowd of racist teabaggers. There isn’t any video, but John Lewis said it happened, and we’ll have to take his word for it. He was a Civil Rights icon. Why isn’t the rest of the media covering this?
CosmosDan

I hope I didn’t lose my fellow liberals on this, but this was just my two cents.

I’m a moderate/liberal and I hear ya! There is so much negativity going on among Americans just because they have different views on things we can’t seem to have a respectful rational discussion. I’m not a Beck fan but this was certainly better than many of the things he’s said in the past. It’s good to pause and look at the positive. We’ll see how things unfold going from here. I’m interested to see how or if his language changes on his show.

I hope we can move forward and really work to stop the insults flying back and forth and try to have a decent discussion.
lanquihue

paulmdoro said:
Why is Beck questioning the legitimacy of the president’s religious beliefs when 45% of Evangelical Christians do not believe that Mormons are true Christians? Is he really in any position to offer judgment in that department?

First off, wtf does Obama have to do with the topic. Second, even it you were on topic, it wouldn’t matter if 0% of Evangelical Christians think Mormons are true Christians, as you have zero doubt what church Beck attends. Most people wouldn’t give a shit if Obama’s an atheist, if only he’d have the balls to say so. As it is now, he say’s “I’m a Christian”, which he clearly is not. It’s the whole secrecy thing that Obama has lived by. He’s been president for almost two years, and still, we know less about him than we did about Palin twelve hours after we heard of her for the first time. I think it’s starting to wear thin with a lot of people.
TruthLovinFreedomLover

tigerprez is right! Until the lamestream media acknowledges that ONE BILLION PEOPLE were present at the 8/28 event that changes everything, we shouldn’t believe a word they say! And watch the lieberal MSM continue to ignore how Glenn turned five loaves of bread and two fish into enough food to feed everyone at the rally.
CosmosDan

GlennBeckReview said:

It’s OK to have God and country combined? Because that is what Rev. Beck is aiming for. StoogeDudes: read between the lines.

But that won’t happen. What we might be able to do is use this as a stepping stone to a real discussion of of the issues and principles that affect people across religious and non religious lines.
paulmdoro

lanquihue said:
First off, wtf does Obama have to do with the topic. Second, even it you were on topic, it wouldn’t matter if 0% of Evangelical Christians think Mormons are true Christians, as you have zero doubt what church Beck attends. Most people wouldn’t give a shit if Obama’s an atheist, if only he’d have the balls to say so. As it is now, he say’s “I’m a Christian”, which he clearly is not. It’s the whole secrecy thing that Obama has lived by. He’s been president for almost two years, and still, we know less about him than we did about Palin twelve hours after we heard of her for the first time. I think it’s starting to wear thin with a lot of people.

You know he’s clearly not a Christian how? Oh, right, you have no idea. Your post is a whole lot of inane rambling and lacks reason and logic. Why am I not surprised.
CosmosDan

lanquihue said: Most people wouldn’t give a shit if Obama’s an atheist, if only he’d have the balls to say so. As it is now, he say’s “I’m a Christian”, which he clearly is not. It’s the whole secrecy thing that Obama has lived by. He’s been president for almost two years, and still, we know less about him than we did about Palin twelve hours after we heard of her for the first time. I think it’s starting to wear thin with a lot of people.

Why do you say he clearly is not? How and why do you judge his Christianity? It’s easy to learn about him. There is plenty of information available. One has only to make the effort.
paulmdoro

CosmosDan said:
Why do you say he clearly is not? How and why do you judge his Christianity? It’s easy to learn about him. There is plenty of information available. One has only to make the effort.

Don’t hold your breath. Much easier to rant and rave.
CosmosDan

paulmdoro said:
One doesn’t need God to have honor.

Exactly right. We need to make it about personal character and the principles that many religions share with those who are not religious at all. Let’s try to unite people with what they share in common, rather than appeal to a specific religion in a country that is so diverse.
lanquihue

paulmdoro said:
You know he’s clearly not a Christian how?

Well, because Christians go to church, it’s just one of the things that they do as part of being Christian. As far as I know, Obama has never been in a Christian church. The only church that I’m sure he ever attended was a Black Liberation Theology outfit in Chicago, which is a radical leftist political philosophy, not a religion.
stoogedudes

GlennBeckReview said:
stoogedudes says: “I’m a liberal, but I’m glad I was able to overcome my anti-Beck and anti-Palin bias to watch something that was uplifting. I didn’t want to hear how evil Obama was or any of that nonsense, so I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw on Saturday.” It’s OK to have God and country combined? Because that is what Rev. Beck is aiming for. StoogeDudes: read between the lines.

I don’t think America should legislate from the Bible. I do believe in separation of Church and State. But having a personal hope that God helps this country out doesn’t necessarily mean I want to combine God and country.

CosmosDan said:
I’m a moderate/liberal and I hear ya! There is so much negativity going on among Americans just because they have different views on things we can’t seem to have a respectful rational discussion. I’m not a Beck fan but this was certainly better than many of the things he’s said in the past. It’s good to pause and look at the positive. We’ll see how things unfold going from here. I’m interested to see how or if his language changes on his show. I hope we can move forward and really work to stop the insults flying back and forth and try to have a decent discussion.

Hear, hear!
notsofast

GlennBeckReview said:
Jesus was all about helping the poor; Beck is all about helping himself.

Yes, that is why he raised over $5 million for the “Wounded warriors’ group, you fking asshole.
http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

It’s TRUE that the only way to restore Honor to our Once Proud Republic is through JESUS!!!1 We should all be Born Again Evangelicals just like the FOUNDING FATHERS!!!1 The only thing that upsets me is that while I WORSHIP Beck as if he were a modern day JESUS (like those at this Amazing Rally), he believes in some kind of SPACE JESUS that made Angels out of indians and wrote the Gospel on golden plates that can be translated by magical stones!!!1 What kind of NONSENSE is that?!?!111 OUR REAL Jesus will ride down with a flaming sword and smite armies of evidoers!!!1
paulmdoro

lanquihue said:
Well, because Christians go to church, it’s just one of the things that they do as part of being Christian. As far as I know, Obama has never been in a Christian church. The only church that I’m sure he ever attended was a Black Liberation Theology outfit in Chicago, which is a radical leftist political philosophy, not a religion.

Obama has been attending services in Washington, D.C.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/04/obama-family-marks-easter-at-washington-d-c-church/
stoogedudes

lanquihue said:
Well, because Christians go to church, it’s just one of the things that they do as part of being Christian. As far as I know, Obama has never been in a Christian church. The only church that I’m sure he ever attended was a Black Liberation Theology outfit in Chicago, which is a radical leftist political philosophy, not a religion.

It is possible to be a Christian without going to church. There are people who are against organized religion and don’t feel the need to show their Christianity around a bunch of other people.

I read somewhere Obama has been consulting with a spiritual adviser (no not Jeremiah Wright, haha) and that he prays a lot.
Drew

What I find very interesting about Beck is that he is motivated to restore this country back to what our founding fathers intended their “experiment” to be, but this “experiment” turned out to be a much greater of a cause and blessing than just an “experiment”. some people believe this land is a gift from God. maybe that is true how ever you want to interpret it. I think this land was a blessing discovered by accident by the pilgrims. our founding fathers knew this land would be a blessing and they thanked God for this land.
http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

Drew said:
What I find very interesting about Beck is that he is motivated to restore this country back to what our founding fathers intended their “experiment” to be, but this “experiment” turned out to be a much greater of a cause and blessing than just an “experiment”. some people believe this land is a gift from God. maybe that is true how ever you want to interpret it. I think this land was a blessing discovered by accident by the pilgrims. our founding fathers knew this land would be a blessing and they thanked God for this land.

YES and then they KILLED all the godless Indians!!!1
http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Gray-Foster/100000042843249 Richard Gray Foster

I’ve never heard GB mention Jesus, or the angel Moroni- what an appropriate name.
He proclaims God, but is that with a big “G” or a little one?
GB won’t be the first to try and ride God’s coattails.
I doubt he can walk in Jesus’ footsteps, despite his own messianic delusions.
juan

The LEFT HATES anything about GOD, GOOD, and AMERICA!
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

lanquihue says: “Hey, here’s another one for you: http://gbrisafuckenretard.blogspot.com/”

Why is it that reactionaries feel the need to drag discussions down into the sewer?
juan

Nachi said:
Where is Jesus’ birth certificate!!??

He doesn’t have one!

As Rush said, that’s one thing that Obama and God have in common, neither have a birth certificate!
paulmdoro

juan said:
He doesn’t have one!

As Rush said, that’s one thing that Obama and God have in common, neither have a birth certificate!

Well Rush certainly is the authority here.
juan

CosmosDan said:
calling our President a racist with a deep seated hatred for white people.

He does seem angry with a chip on his shoulder, probably because he can’t attend Rev. Wright’s church anymore!
chucken

Beck and his handlers figured they needed a gimmick for “Whitestock” so lets say we are going to support the troops and give them the leftovers from this pagan freak fest and it would seem as less garish than it really is.Instead of endless promotions for this old white people rally just ask for his viewers to send money directly to the wounded soldier organizations and skip the the phony pretentions that Whitestock is nothing more than a gross ego trip.
paulmdoro

juan said:
He does seem angry with a chip on his shoulder, probably because he can’t attend Rev. Wright’s church anymore!

Maybe he’s angry because so many nitwits are irrationally obsessed with whether or not he’s truly a Christian rather than more serious issues.
juan

CosmosDan said:
re is plenty of information available.

You lose on that one!

All we know about his background is what Bill Ayers wrote in Obama’s books!

The Slobbering Obama Statist Media reveaaled everything about Sarah and nothing about Obama!

What is he hiding and why?
Nachi

But who will win the “Best Christian” award??
WideAwakeNow

I’m kinda not sure why Beck gets all this flack for saying Obama is racist. ….If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck. Obama wants to take away the wealth of the oppressors (white people) and give to who he deems as the oppressed peoples of the world (predominantly black people) and then there’s black liberation theology which he most assuredly ascribes to being a prominent member of the wright congregation. …BLT preaches that white people have to make amends to black folk before they can have salvation. You don’t think any of THAT speaks to racism on the part of those who subscribe to that theology???? President Obama is a racist and that is just that. Beck just finds himself in a place where he too is forced to be politically correct for the sake of the greater good in spreading his very worthy message.

I know.. I know.. I’m now a hateful white racist (I am white afterall) for calling out a racist president ..who ..well, is a racist president. He has done more to set back race relations than any one figure in the past 4 decades. But the fact that I dare call it like I see it makes me a racist while our beloved president skates on the issue regardless of the proof I and others could hold out that it is HE who indeed is the racist. That’s the game you liberals play ad nausem. Tell it to my best friend ….who happens to be black.
chucken

The shark has been jumped.Beck viewers are not gonna hang around and listen to some sanctimonious drug addict disc jockey and pretend preacher do a somber Beck is God routine for an hour 5 days a week. Come on you teabaggers and beckerheads want RED MEAT!! You want Obama is the Devil, Nazi talk,Stalin rants, we are going to have riots in the streets,the chalk board diagrams linking progressives with every evil known to mankind.Watching his Fox show right now he is still a fucking moron but before it was a fun train wreck of a truly demented wackjob.
CosmosDan

lanquihue said:
Well, because Christians go to church, it’s just one of the things that they do as part of being Christian. As far as I know, Obama has never been in a Christian church. The only church that I’m sure he ever attended was a Black Liberation Theology outfit in Chicago, which is a radical leftist political philosophy, not a religion.

OKay, thanks for an honest answer. How much personal research did you do on that church in Chicago? I did a lot reading on their website and listening to the entire sermon some of Wright’s remarks came from. Christianity varies quite a bit from church to church but they certainly seemed just as Christian as any other. Of course you have a right to your opinion.
CosmosDan

stoogedudes said:
It is possible to be a Christian without going to church. There are people who are against organized religion and don’t feel the need to show their Christianity around a bunch of other people.

I read somewhere Obama has been consulting with a spiritual adviser (no not Jeremiah Wright, haha) and that he prays a lot.

And that’s a very good point that I missed. I would think that according to the words of Jesus in the New Testament that it’s the spirit in your heart that is reflected in your actions that determines who is really follows his teachings and who just talks about them.
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven”
CosmosDan

juan said:
The LEFT HATES anything about GOD, GOOD, and AMERICA!

Far to broad a brush and completely untrue. Lot’s and lots of liberal believers in this country. People can have honest disagreements and still both love America .
CosmosDan

juan said:
You lose on that one!

All we know about his background is what Bill Ayers wrote in Obama’s books!

The Slobbering Obama Statist Media reveaaled everything about Sarah and nothing about Obama!

What is he hiding and why?

Well I found out plenty about him with just a little bit of effort. If you can’t I’d say it’s from lack of effort.
CosmosDan

GlennBeckReview said:
lanquihue says: “Hey, here’s another one for you: http://gbrisafuckenretard.blogspot.com/”

Why is it that reactionaries feel the need to drag discussions down into the sewer?

Too much hate and needless insults coming from both sides. To little reason , research and a willingness to listen.
CosmosDan

WideAwakeNow said:
I’m kinda not sure why Beck gets all this flack for saying Obama is racist. ….If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck. Obama wants to take away the wealth of the oppressors (white people) and give to who he deems as the oppressed peoples of the world (predominantly black people) and then there’s black liberation theology which he most assuredly ascribes to being a prominent member of the wright congregation. …BLT preaches that white people have to make amends to black folk before they can have salvation. You don’t think any of THAT speaks to racism on the part of those who subscribe to that theology???? President Obama is a racist and that is just that. Beck just finds himself in a place where he too is forced to be politically correct for the sake of the greater good in spreading his very worthy message.

I know.. I know.. I’m now a hateful white racist (I am white afterall) for calling out a racist president ..who ..well, is a racist president. He has done more to set back race relations than any one figure in the past 4 decades. But the fact that I dare call it like I see it makes me a racist while our beloved president skates on the issue regardless of the proof I and others could hold out that it is HE who indeed is the racist. That’s the game you liberals play ad nausem. Tell it to my best friend ….who happens to be black.

You’re free to call it like you see it and I won’t call you a racist for doing so. I’d just call you mistaken. You’re assuming our president buys into all of black liberation theology without any real evidence. In fact in his speech on racism pretty much denounced the most negative parts of it{and it’s not all that negative} I’d say you need to understand BLT better and maybe judge our President by his words and actions. Just my opinion and calling it as I see it.
OTOH, if you do indeed have proof he is a racist I’d be glad to look at it and consider it. I’m skeptical.
Mr B

“Beck noted at one point that one of the speakers was a Democrats “who organized for Obama” as if it was so shocking such a thing would occur. ”

Well, for example, the pressure applied to force George Stephanopolis to withdraw his charity auction for the SOWF (which he did, as I understand it) might have something to do with it. The right thing for Democrats to do would be to support the SOWF despite the polical differences. Last Saturday was a great day to put those differences aside. As did that individual Beck noted. Get it?

God bless Alveda King for having the courage to rise above.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

lanquihue says: “Hey, here’s another one for you: http://gbrisafuckenretard.blogspot.com/”

Lanquihue, are you Zerlollen? This despicable creep has three blogs, none any more worthy of exchange that his assault on The Glenn Beck Review. In fact, it’s arguable that Zerlollen is a sociopath. You decide:
http://zerllollen.blogspot.com/?zx=7f367e016e5393f1
http://paphead.blogspot.com/

If Zerlollen is someone who feels he has to defend Glenn Beck from The Glenn Beck Review, it says more about Mr. Beck than it does about Zerlollen. It also conveys that I am on the right track watching Beck, moving forward, to determine if his has become the honorable man he argued he’s become last Saturday…or not.

Time to watch my recording of tonight’s show…with my pen and paper, taking notes, just as Mr. Beck suggests. Only I use what I write to come up and fact check his claims.
Mr B

Nachi said:
But who will win the “Best Christian” award??

Stop giving Keith Olbermann ideas.

Woooooooorst Christian in the Wooooooorld!!!!!11!
WideAwakeNow

CosmosDan said:
You’re free to call it like you see it and I won’t call you a racist for doing so. I’d just call you mistaken. You’re assuming our president buys into all of black liberation theology without any real evidence. In fact in his speech on racism pretty much denounced the most negative parts of it{and it’s not all that negative} I’d say you need to understand BLT better and maybe judge our President by his words and actions. Just my opinion and calling it as I see it.OTOH, if you do indeed have proof he is a racist I’d be glad to look at it and consider it. I’m skeptical.

Obama did denounce Rev. Wright ..but not until his political feet were held to the fire. Was that done out of some sincerely held belief that the courser parts BLT are not his own views or was that done out of some political expediency angle? …You certainly have to look at the timing and wonder about that. You also have to be willing to believe that a man would attend a church where for 2 decades this theology was taught but that he did not subscribe to it.. Is it not fair to judge him by those words and actions as you suggested that I do? …Or should he simply be judged on the 18 months since he was elected and all years beforehand be ignored. Of course he will denounce it now..everyone is looking. ..But what did he do and believe before everyone cared?

I appreciate your opinion. I appreciate that you did not call me a racist for mine. I also don’t want to call our president a racist……however, I do see where/why Beck made his original remarks..and I don’t see how any man/woman attending a church who subscribes to this theology can be anything other than a racist:

From the pioneer in Black LiberationTheology, James Cone:
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
(Quoted in William R Jones, “Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology”, in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube.)
Patrick Henry

Permatiltx said:
Look, I’m all for turning to God during times of trouble, but how does this change America, exactly?

Maybe we shouldn’t wait until times of trouble.
Patrick Henry

stoogedudes said:
My family has gone through rough times lately, and two very special people in my life have decided to quit drinking.

Stooge, I don’t want to put the board in a furor, but I will pray for you and your family that things turn out well.
Patrick Henry

Nachi said:
Have any of you deep intellectuals taken the time to see the nifty work God is currently performing in, say, Pakistan??

Do you consider yourself a deep intellectual because you are not a believer? Why do you think God is the reason for what is happening in Pakistan?
CosmosDan

WideAwakeNow said:
Obama did denounce Rev. Wright ..but not until his political feet were held to the fire. Was that done out of some sincerely held belief that the courser parts BLT are not his own views or was that done out of some political expediency angle? …You certainly have to look at the timing and wonder about that. You also have to be willing to believe that a man would attend a church where for 2 decades this theology was taught but that he did not subscribe to it.. Is it not fair to judge him by those words and actions as you suggested that I do? …Or should he simply be judged on the 18 months since he was elected and all years beforehand be ignored. Of course he will denounce it now..everyone is looking. ..But what did he do and believe before everyone cared?

I appreciate your opinion. I appreciate that you did not call me a racist for mine. I also don’t want to call our president a racist……however, I do see where/why Beck made his original remarks..and I don’t see how any man/woman attending a church who subscribes to this theology can be anything other than a racist:

From the pioneer in Black LiberationTheology, James Cone:
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
(Quoted in William R Jones, “Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology”, in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube.)

Thanks for the response. It’s good to show that people who disagree can have a respectful discussion. We see too little of it in the comments.
I read a lot about the Trinity church at the time and listened to one of Rev Wright’s sermons all the way through, rather than just the lifted clip. Those parts are a small part of what Wright and that church is about and not the part that is stressed the most. They do a ton of great work and the message is primarily very positive and uplifting. That being the case I can see Obama going there for 20 years and focusing on the positive. I’m not asking you to forget everything except the last 18 months. I asking you to judge by Obama’s own actions and words, rather than judging him negatively based on a guess about his thinking. Seems reasonable doesn’t it.? I just listened to James Cone on NPR http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89236116
and got a different impression than your quote. In contemporary media there’s a trend in taking the worst quote or two you can find from a persons life, lift it from context and repeating it over and over. That strikes me unrealistic and unfair. People are not that one dimensional and the measure of a man is not captured in a few quotes. I try to listen to the positive and the negative before I make a judgment. I will do more research on BLT and Cone because I think it will come up again. Thanks again for a reasonable response.
CosmosDan

GlennBeckReview said:

Time to watch my recording of tonight’s show…with my pen and paper, taking notes, just as Mr. Beck suggests. Only I use what I write to come up and fact check his claims.

I think that’s a great idea. I watched Mr Beck for a little over a week about a year ago at the request of a friend. At the time I got the impression he cared more about ratings than he did honesty. After this weekend I think I’ll start watching again and see what he’s talking about and if anything has improved.
BobbysJury

Mr. Beck is an entertainer, at best. He is also a recovering alcoholic, by his own admission. Anyone who knows of the Self Centeredness of the Alcoholic, can detect it’s hold on Mr. Beck. Mr. Beck is, indeed, about making money, lots of money. Rich men don’t get or stay rich giving their money away to taxes, wages, or entitlement programs. Mr. Beck is a self seeker. He does nothing without expecting it to pay him dividends. I’ve been watching Mr. Beck since before he found employment with Mr. Murdoch. His theme today, is much differant from that of not so long ago. Mr. Beck needs to leave Evangelizing to more qualified indivduals. His phoniness precedes him. As a christian, I for one, did not appreciate his little show Saturday.
CosmosDan

WideAwakeNow said:

From the pioneer in Black LiberationTheology, James Cone:
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
(Quoted in William R Jones, “Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology”, in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube.)

Update; Evidently this quote came from a book Cone wrote in 1969. Black Theology and Black Power. So, we are to judge the man by one quote lifted from book over 40 years old when America was quite different and race relations in this country were different than they are now. I saw the video clip of Beck using this quote on his show and saying “This is the kind of Theology that Obama was exposed to for 20 years” as if the worst of it represents a clear picture. I wonder what quotes we might be to find of Beck’s when he was an alcoholic. Do they represent his attitudes now? It’s that kind of blatantly unfair and IMO dishonest representation of others that I find objectionable about Beck and his show. It’s a repeating pattern and quite disappointing in a man who talks of the value of the teachings of Jesus.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

CosmosDan says: “I think that’s a great idea. I watched Mr Beck for a little over a week about a year ago at the request of a friend. At the time I got the impression he cared more about ratings than he did honesty. After this weekend I think I’ll start watching again and see what he’s talking about and if anything has improved.”

I’ve put Beck on notice in effect. If he’s going to tell his supporters to tell the truth five times in his speech, then he’s now on a standard that he has set for himself, although he always claims to tell the truth.

Your friend requested you watch Mr. Beck because Beck is always telling his viewers to in effect promote this huckster. He’s a non-stop, self-promotion machine.

BobbysJury, Mr. Beck needs to leave political commentary to more qualified individuals. He’s a great entertainer, and now he’s an evangelical voice of God, as Beck understands God. That’s roughly how Cleon Skousen saw God, although Skousen would not have included mosques in his sermon. For that Beck deserves kudos given the climate of Islamaphobia running amok in this country now that pinhead Pamela Geller has aroused it. She (and previously Beck) is pushing a clash of civilizations, like P. Robertson. Now, hopefully, some of his followers will accept Islamic Americans without pre-judgement.

Someone commenting on The Glenn Beck Review claimed that I’m Beck’s biggest critic, but I’ve agreed with Beck occasionally adding once that he’s as accurate as a broken clock. Beck has said that the birther movement is “dumb.” He was right there, too. To his credit, Beck has not accused Obama of being a Muslim although Beck is utterly clueless about Liberation Theology, not to mention what Jesus was about in terms of serving the poor. Charity is great, but it is not enough to handle the massive inner city challenges of many Americans, especially when racism still lingers.

That’s another kudo for Beck; he denounces racism even if he undermines that message with his frequent race-baiting, scare-the-white-people tactics that he often employs. Has employed in the past. Maybe Beck is turning a new leaf. We can only hope. http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/is-glenn-beck-turning-over-new-leaf.html
writer

And yet, GBR, you attended Al Sharpton’s rally. One of the biggest race-baiters on earth. I guess it depends on which race the race-baiter is.
http://none pyrope

Permatiltx said:
Turn to God?

You could do a LOT worse. It seemed to work pretty well for our founders–and a LOT of people since.
http://none pyrope

BobbysJury said:
As a christian, I for one, did not appreciate his little show Saturday.

Might I suggest that you go to that dark little corner in your soul and look at those things you are currently refusing to let yourself see?
http://none pyrope

Nachi said:
But who will win the “Best Christian” award??

I don’t know who will win that distinguished award but I’m fairly certain who will not…just judging from your attitude.
http://none pyrope

Oh, and it won’t be me, either.
http://none pyrope

Karl Spensen said:
YES and then they KILLED all the godless Indians!!!1

You must have seen that on Mr. Beck’s program. He talked about those horrendous deeds extensively one day. Keep watching and you’ll learn more.
http://none pyrope

Drew said:
What I find very interesting about Beck is that he is motivated to restore this country back to what our founding fathers intended their “experiment” to be, but this “experiment” turned out to be a much greater of a cause and blessing than just an “experiment”. some people believe this land is a gift from God. maybe that is true how ever you want to interpret it. I think this land was a blessing discovered by accident by the pilgrims. our founding fathers knew this land would be a blessing and they thanked God for this land.

The more I read, the more I become convinced of this.
http://none pyrope

CosmosDan said:
There is so much negativity going on among Americans just because they have different views on things we can’t seem to have a respectful rational discussion.

And who do you think is stirring the pot? Do you not see the friction amongst “we lesser people” generated by the media, who are for the most part a tool for the puppet masters, is merely a smoke screen to protect them as they execute their true agenda? It’s so obvious that Stevie Wonder could see it.
http://none pyrope

stoogedudes said:
It is possible to be a Christian without going to church.

It’s possible but it is often more difficult. I live in a very remote part of the country since my retirement from professional life, and I do not attend church because the nearest one is some 30 miles away. However, I do occasionally wish there were a church close by so I could have some contact with people of common belief. I guess it relates back to the claim that there is strength in number. Yet, there is this: “Wherever two or more of you are gathered in my name, I am there also.” Sometimes, it’s just me and my cat, but he’s an awesome tenor.
http://none pyrope

Michael_T said:
Seems extreme and unrealistic to me. But he certainly has a large number of people who agree with him.

Honorable people are most prone to do honorable acts. I agree though that on the surface it does seem unrealistic. However, if HONOR becomes the accepted norm, peer pressure will influence everyone to act honorably.
http://none pyrope

Michael_T said:
Why would he make a broad statement (and condemnation) about the entire GOP field?

I would vote for Mr. Beck if he ran for president depending on his running mate. I have heard more truth from Mr. Beck in one hour than I’ve heard from the Democrats or the Republicans in the times I’ve listened (and I’ve listened open-mindedly and regularly).

The conventional line from some is that “we all have feet of clay” (referring to the text of the book of Daniel), but I must believe that those who gave us this country did not have feet of clay. It is for that reason that I am inclined to hold those who would represent us to a higher standard than their constituency–they should, in every way, manifest our ideals.
http://none pyrope

One other most important observation: I believe Mr. Beck eschews the presidency because he views himself as unworthy of the office. By comparison, I would beg to differ strenuously with Mr. Beck; he’s a heck of a lot better than most who have served of late.
http://none pyrope

Nachi said:
Have any of you deep intellectuals taken the time to see the nifty work God is currently performing in, say, Pakistan??

Have you taken time to understand that Pakistan is not a Christain nation?
http://none pyrope

stoogedudes said:
I hope I didn’t lose my fellow liberals on this, but this was just my two cents.

I hope you didn’t lose your liberal friends on this either; if you did, I would be inclined to believe you should reassess the value of their friendship.
http://none pyrope

Magister said:
In other words, hundreds of thousands turned out on faith that Glenn Beck would put on a good show.

The primary reason people went to the Restoring Honor event was to express their view that honor is in dire need of being restored in this country–AND that it MUST start with the individual. If you do not grasp that, you may not grasp anything.
injest

in my humble opinion says:

IT IS STILL “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY”
BECK MAKES A LOT OF MONEY. I WOULD LIKE HIM TO HAITI OR THE GULF TO HELP OUT. C,MON PEOPLE.
BECK IS ALL ABOUT BECK, WHICH IS “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY”

Good point!
On Saturday Aug 28 2010, Beck raised only $5.5 + Million for SOWF

The Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF)

BTW, ever hear of “caps lock”? just saying.
tiredofbs

Wow! I am shocked! A FAIR ARTICLE by Steve Krakauer -On Beck?
Congratulations Mediaite!
I came back to Site just to see the coverage.. Expecting to be angry..

Fairness & honesty is exactly what Glenn Beck’s rally was about.
Not some call for a Political Theocracy but for people & especially journos,
politicos, to stop being degenerates,& be honest.
I see the regular Lefties, are puzzled,(confused) as usual,
just not grasping the concept.

Every day Lefties & Righties alike, complain of the smell of rotten eggs
in Washington DC
and in the decline of our Society as a whole.. Here was a man,
who’s life is in danger for saying that we should all practice & liv e by
the honorable tenets of our various religions, using our God -s as guide,
not greed or lust for power or The Federal Government…
What in the world is (can be twisted to be) wrong in that?

Are Lefties so jaded so full of hate & envy that they do not recognize
a benign human being when they see one?
injest

BobbysJury says:

“Rich men don’t get or stay rich giving their money away to taxes, wages, or entitlement programs.”

“Billionaires pledge $125 billion to Bill Gates charity drive
Bill Gates and Warren Buffett have secured $125 billion from 40 families and individuals on the Forbes 400 list of the wealthiest Americans for the Giving Pledge campaign.”

Idiot.

NEXT!
CosmosDan

pyrope said:
And who do you think is stirring the pot? Do you not see the friction amongst “we lesser people” generated by the media, who are for the most part a tool for the puppet masters, is merely a smoke screen to protect them as they execute their true agenda? It’s so obvious that Stevie Wonder could see it.

I don’t disagree. I’m just encouraging people to stop buying into it and let insults and a lack of real information dominate the dialogue between citizens
http://www.facebook.com/people/Larry-King/100000689413015 Larry King

Penguin60 said:
And of course the breakdown among race was quite obviously almost universally white. That doesn’t mean it was full of racists –Alveda King probably got the loudest ovation – but it’s just a fact.

My guess is you didn’t ask chrissy hissy fit, or olberdork. Don’t worry the douche bags will turn it into a racist thing. It’s sad that a group of white people have to be described as “not full of racists”.

You think any were there???
FearMonger

Larry King said:
You think any were there???

Sure… but most of them were democrats.
Pablo

People who predicted a low turn out for the rally were proven wrong – as were people who predicted it would be a political event. Instead, this became a religious experience, an enormous revival that asked important, broad questions and answered simply with: Jesus Christ.

How many times did Glenn Beck say “Jesus Christ”? I could be wrong, but I think the answer is none. I notice that there’s no such Beck quote in the post. God, yes, lots of times. Not Jesus Christ though.

That’s weird.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Beck lies during his speech, but only three times. By his standards, that’s pretty good.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/during-his-speech-to-restore-honor-beck.html
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

GlennBeckReview said:
Jesus was all about helping the poor; Beck is all about helping himself.

notsofast says:
“Yes, that is why he raised over $5 million for the “Wounded warriors’ group, you fking asshole.”

As usual, your facts are wrong. First the money paid for his rally, then what was left over went to the Wounded Special Ops vets. I know of no audit to find out how much was given to the Special Ops group.