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Maureen Dowd: Obama Let The “Nutters Get A Foothold”

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Of mice and men! Maureen Dowd could not let Christine O’Donnell‘s old remarks about monkey’s and evolution and mice with human brains pass her by. In today’s column she picks up on both as well as Bill Maher‘s concern that these remarks by O’Donnell are far more worrisome than her witchcraft dabbling: “She could be in a position to make decisions about scientific issues, like global warming and stem cells.” Alas, as MoDo points out O’Donnell is far from alone in her aversion to science.

We seem beset with spellbinding hybrids with the looks of Fox News anchors, the brains of mice and the power of changing the direction of the country.

Perhaps needless to say Sarah Palin (and her wolf hunting) are tops on MoDo’s list, but she is not alone: “Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, John Boehner, Jim DeMint and some Tea Party types don’t merely yearn for the country they idealize from the 1950s. They want to go back to the 1750s.”

Also not surprising MoDo blames President Obama:

President Obama was supposed to be a giant leap forward in modernity, the brainy, rational first black president leading us out of the scientific darkness of the W. years. But by letting nutters get a foothold, he may usher us into the past.

And thinks all this backward thinking may come back to bite Christine O’Donnell: “Evolution is no myth, but we may be evolving backward. Christine O’Donnell had better hope they don’t bring back witch burning.”

Related: Slouching Toward Washington [NYT]

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  • Azarkhan

    When the NYTimes hired Maureen Dowd, they let a nutter get a foothold.

  • Azarkhan

    ““Evolution is no myth…”

    Actually it is a theory.

    theory- 2.a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

  • Moderate

    She would serve as a good balance for Dennis kasinich.

  • notsofast

    I love watching a witch like Dowd melting as 11/2/2010 approaches.

  • notsofast

    MD is the one on the far left above.

  • Big Eddie

    Maureen just thinking back …http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgyZCgw6kdw

  • MrAut

    ripped off from another post: “There’s a famous anecdote about 1950s presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson. A supporter at a campaign stop called out, ‘All thinking people are for Stevenson!’ Stevenson shot back, ‘That’s not enough, I need a majority!’”

  • felixw

    Ah, a familiar bit of buffoonery from the left. Don’t vote for Republicans because they are nutters. I am sure tens of millions of voters will be convinced, by this sophisticated argument, to hold on to a Congress that passes trillion dollar, pork-filled bills without reading them. Because, after all, what could be nutter-ly about good, old-fashioned Democratic incompetence, cronyism and borrowing from the Chinese on their broken programs?

    Check out the NY Times today …. extensive coverage explaining the Republican campaign without any mention of tax cuts, deficits, fiscal responsibility, etc. But plenty of emphasis on the sheer evilness of people who dare run against Democrats. Hard to believe that the people working for this ministry of disinformation have the nerve to call it a newspaper.

  • writer

    It’s still better than letting the footers get a nut hold.

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    ““Evolution is no myth…”

    Actually it is a theory.

    theory- 2.a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

    A theory based on a lot of scientific evidence , where as Creationism, has zero.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    It’s still better than letting the footers get a nut hold.

    LOL what was your preference Bada Bing?

    good one.

  • writer

    As usual, I’ll be here all week. Try the veal.

  • CosmosDan

    I don’t think Obama let the nutters get a foothold. I tend to agree with Jimmy Carter’s comment the other night. What used to be the fringe 2 or 3% has been amplified and supported by media outlets looking to exploit controversy, so the fringe gets more exposure and more converts. A temporary setback.

  • Greg

    Different story same idea… Far right fracture group can advocate for replacing fire department with noah’s ark brigades and it’s the Democrats who are responsible…

  • writer

    Ah, yes. The Carter years. Mile long gas lines, the Iran debacle, 20% mortgages. When Jimmy speaks, we should listen.

  • Founders_were_Liberal

    I love how the right-wing nutters hate Maureen Dowd. Just proves how right on the money she is about O’Donnell and her ilk.

  • timcajun

    Now hold on if Azakhan says ” Dowd ” is a nut, then she is a nut!

  • no-touchy-touchy

    writer said:
    It’s still better than letting the footers get a nut hold.

    CosmosDan said:
    LOL what was your preference Bada Bing?

    good one.

    yest it was

    writer said:
    As usual, I’ll be here all week. Try the veal.

    uh oh – you know the “lefties” don’t like killing baby cows

  • MrAut

    felixw said:
    Ah, a familiar bit of buffoonery from the left. Don’t vote for Republicans because they are nutters. I am sure tens of millions of voters will be convinced, by this sophisticated argument, to hold on to a Congress that passes trillion dollar, pork-filled bills without reading them. Because, after all, what could be nutter-ly about good, old-fashioned Democratic incompetence, cronyism and borrowing from the Chinese on their broken programs?

    Check out the NY Times today …. extensive coverage explaining the Republican campaign without any mention of tax cuts, deficits, fiscal responsibility, etc. But plenty of emphasis on the sheer evilness of people who dare run against Democrats. Hard to believe that the people working for this ministry of disinformation have the nerve to call it a newspaper.

    Your typical drivel. The NYTimes has printed reams on the Republican plan regarding “tax cuts, deficits, fiscal responsibility” but not nearly enough underscoring the insanity of extending Bush’s originally preferential tax cuts for the wealthy; the record deficits created under Bush; and ‘fiscal responsibility’ under Republican leadership as a complete joke. Fact: job creation post Bush tax cuts the WORST of any administration in modern history. Here’s the link from that bastion of liberalism, the Wall St Journal. http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

  • MrAut

    felixw said:
    Ah, a familiar bit of buffoonery from the left. Don’t vote for Republicans because they are nutters. I am sure tens of millions of voters will be convinced, by this sophisticated argument, to hold on to a Congress that passes trillion dollar, pork-filled bills without reading them. Because, after all, what could be nutter-ly about good, old-fashioned Democratic incompetence, cronyism and borrowing from the Chinese on their broken programs?

    Check out the NY Times today …. extensive coverage explaining the Republican campaign without any mention of tax cuts, deficits, fiscal responsibility, etc. But plenty of emphasis on the sheer evilness of people who dare run against Democrats. Hard to believe that the people working for this ministry of disinformation have the nerve to call it a newspaper.

    2. Once again, you have “evilness” confused with stupidity. I have no problem with smart candidates running against Dems; I could easily vote for the right one. Unlike you I wont lower myself to voting for chimps. I gathered another snippet from another board: “This woman (ODonnell) isn’t worth talking about. Whatever she personally believes, if she’s elected, she will do what her corporate sponsors want her to do…” and to be honest, one of my great fears about the Tea Party folks is how manipulable they will turn out to be. The fresh and innocent (not to mention goofy) always are.

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    2. Once again, you have “evilness” confused with stupidity. I have no problem with smart candidates running against Dems; I could easily vote for the right one. Unlike you I wont lower myself to voting for chimps. I gathered another snippet from another board: “This woman (ODonnell) isn’t worth talking about. Whatever she personally believes, if she’s elected, she will do what her corporate sponsors want her to do…” and to be honest, one of my great fears about the Tea Party folks is how manipulable they will turn out to be. The fresh and innocent (not to mention goofy) always are.

    No, you haven’t read the New York Times carefully today. This week the story is that Republicans are evil. The ‘Republicans are stupid’ story will run next week. Which leaves the New York Times with only one remaining story angle — namely, the one about Republicans being racist. I’m sure they will run that one right before the election.

    And that sums up the only three kinds of stories the New York Times ever runs about Republicans. Never a whisper about policy…..a matter that the Times is afraid to broach.

  • writer

    felix, the New York Times saves money that way. It’s always the same paper, they just change the date at the top.

  • writer

    no-touchy, I was of course referring to a soy bean substitute.

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    Fact: job creation post Bush tax cuts the WORST of any administration in modern history

    Unemployment rate at the end of the Bush presidency 7.2%
    Unemployment rate under Obama = 9.6%

    If Bush’s record on jobs is the worst, how do you describe this trend:

    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usunemployment&met=unemployment_rate&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=unemployment+rate

    What buffoons you find on the left — to make claims that are so easily disproved.

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    Bush’s originally preferential tax cuts for the wealthy; the record deficits created

    Bush tax cuts led to the greatest increase in federal tax revenues in history. During the four years following the passage of the Bush tax cuts, Federal tax receipts increased by an annual rate of $800 billion — much larger than any increase in the history of the United States.

    Check out the numbers:

    http://www.truthfulpolitics.com/images/federal_government_revenue.jpg

    How embarrassing it must be to make statements that are so easily disproved.

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    the record deficits created under Bush

    No, the record for deficits belong to Obama. Check out the real numbers:

    http://factreal.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ecoobamavsbushbudgetdeficit2010feb.jpg

    Obama has already spent more borrowed money than all the Presidents from George Washington to Ronald Reagan.

    How pathetic for the Left to toss out such easily disproved fabrications.

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    I have no problem with smart candidates running against Dems

    Your arrogance is so amusing when matched up with the all the bogus factoids you present.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    writer said:
    no-touchy, I was of course referring to a soy bean substitute.

    HeHeHeHeHe

    Hey are you still having those thoughts?

    Maybe not knowing is part of the attraction.

  • MrAut

    felixw said:
    No, you haven’t read the New York Times carefully today. This week the story is that Republicans are evil. The ‘Republicans are stupid’ story will run next week. Which leaves the New York Times with only one remaining story angle — namely, the one about Republicans being racist. I’m sure they will run that one right before the election.

    And that sums up the only three kinds of stories the New York Times ever runs about Republicans. Never a whisper about policy…..a matter that the Times is afraid to broach.

    give me the link to “evil”

    what is it about Republican “policy” you think they should cover better? Was this “biased”?: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/health/policy/21repeal.html?pagewanted=1&sq=republican%20policy&st=cse&scp=2. Or this? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/us/politics/23repubs.html?scp=10&sq=republican%20%20policy&st=cse

    Give me some specifics

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    give me the link to “evil”

    Front page of today’s New York Times

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/us/politics/26dems.html?ref=todayspaper

    Democrats across the country build their campaigns with character attacks because they are afraid to run on issues.

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    give me the link to “evil”

    From today’s NY Times:

    “In Ohio, Representative Betty Sutton calls her Republican rival, Tom Ganley, a “dishonest used-car salesman” who has been sued more than 400 times for fraud, discrimination, lying to customers about repairs, overcharging them and endangering their safety.”

    From today’s NY Times:

    “In Arizona, Representative Harry E. Mitchell accused his opponent David Schweikert of being “a predatory real estate speculator who snatched up nearly 300 foreclosed homes, been cited for neglect and evicted a homeowner on the verge of saving his house, just to make a buck.”

    From today’s NY Times:

    “In New York, Representative Michael Arcuri introduces his Republican challenger, Richard Hanna, as a millionaire who “got rich while his construction company overcharged taxpayers thousands, was sued three times for injuries caused by faulty construction and was cited 12 times for health and safety violations.”

    From today’s NY Times:

    “A debate has broken out among some Democratic officials about the effectiveness — or wisdom — of running such pointedly negative advertisements with five weeks remaining in the campaign. But party strategists said candidates did not have the luxury of waiting until the final stretch to go negative, particularly if the goal is to localize the races.”

    This is your party, MrAut — the party of character attacks, smears, insults, ridicule and avoidance of the issues. Why is the Left so afraid of running on the track record of the Obama administration? That’s easy to answer — the Obama administration has been a disaster. So Democrats need to run on character attacks.

  • CAconservative

    What’s really disconcerting here is the fact that supposed adults are putting some much stock in the rantings of a High School girl?
    Excuse me, I forgot, it’s Dowd, and Maher…now it makes sense!!

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    Unemployment rate at the end of the Bush presidency 7.2%
    Unemployment rate under Obama = 9.6%

    If Bush’s record on jobs is the worst, how do you describe this trend:

    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usunemployment&met=unemployment_rate&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=unemployment+rate

    What buffoons you find on the left — to make claims that are so easily disproved.

    WOW
    the Heritage foundation makes such pretty pictures.

    If you would like to hear what real TAX ACCOUNTANTS have to say look here
    http://www.tax.com/taxcom/taxblog.nsf/Permalink/CHAS-89LPZ9?OpenDocument

    a small bit
    Total income was $2.74 trillion less during the eight Bush years than if incomes had stayed at 2000 levels.

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    No, the record for deficits belong to Obama. Check out the real numbers:

    http://factreal.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ecoobamavsbushbudgetdeficit2010feb.jpg

    Obama has already spent more borrowed money than all the Presidents from George Washington to Ronald Reagan.

    How pathetic for the Left to toss out such easily disproved fabrications.

    this one

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    Bush tax cuts led to the greatest increase in federal tax revenues in history. During the four years following the passage of the Bush tax cuts, Federal tax receipts increased by an annual rate of $800 billion — much larger than any increase in the history of the United States.

    Check out the numbers:

    http://www.truthfulpolitics.com/images/federal_government_revenue.jpg

    How embarrassing it must be to make statements that are so easily disproved.

    Total income was $2.74 trillion less during the eight Bush years than if incomes had stayed at 2000 levels.

    That much additional income would have more than made up for the lack of demand that keeps us mired in the Great Recession. That would mean no need for a stimulus, although it would not have affected the last administration’s interfering with market capitalism by bailing out irresponsible Wall Streeters instead of letting the market determine their fortunes.

  • felixw

    right-is-wrong said:
    Total income was $2.74 trillion less during the eight Bush years than if incomes had stayed at 2000 levels.

    Great claim, except it’s not backed up by real numbers. Income went up substantially under Bush.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2-oDfgGpQKg/SRW6rFyNJwI/AAAAAAAABgA/RKfOS3FkVnk/s400/GDP+per+capita.jpg

    Where do you Lefties come up with all these easily disproved claims? What will you come up with next? You’re a joke when you spread these lies that anyone can refute in five seconds.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Ah, yes. The Carter years. Mile long gas lines, the Iran debacle, 20% mortgages. When Jimmy speaks, we should listen.

    Yeah, those low mortgage rates really worked out didn’t they? And cheap gas rather than using less. That sure steered us in the right direction.

  • MrAut

    felixw said:
    No, the record for deficits belong to Obama. Check out the real numbers:

    http://factreal.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ecoobamavsbushbudgetdeficit2010feb.jpg

    Obama has already spent more borrowed money than all the Presidents from George Washington to Ronald Reagan.

    How pathetic for the Left to toss out such easily disproved fabrications.

    Sorry, i’m not from your hated professional “Left”

    Bush created record deficits http://articles.cnn.com/2003-02-03/politics/bush.budget_1_bush-budget-discretionary-federal-spending-tax-cuts?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS. Obama didin’t drop in out of the blue, dipshit – although I realize there is no appetite on the professional Right for reviewing Bush. Is it bullshit to question the Republican record on (record) deficit spending when they’re the ones screaming about fiscal discipline? Simple question: what’s their record on that one? If I am hiring someone to work for me I want to know his accomplishments, and how well results match promise.

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    Bush created record deficits

    You are such an idiot. You link to an article from 2003 on record deficits. Do you have any idea, Bozo, of the deficits Obama is running up right now???????

    Look at some real numbers, and stop your stupid spin.

    http://factreal.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ecoobamavsbushbudgetdeficit2010feb.jpg

    Who can take you seriously when you are so confused on the most basic facts?

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    Great claim, except it’s not backed up by real numbers. Income went up substantially under Bush.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2-oDfgGpQKg/SRW6rFyNJwI/AAAAAAAABgA/RKfOS3FkVnk/s400/GDP+per+capita.jpg

    Where do you Lefties come up with all these easily disproved claims? What will you come up with next? You’re a joke when you spread these lies that anyone can refute in five seconds.

    Did you bother to read the link from REAL tax accounts?
    Nope
    You send me to some jpg picture from some unknown blog that has no root

    Not Found
    The requested URL / was not found on this server.

    TRY AGAIN for us people with brains!

  • felixw

    right-is-wrong said:
    the Heritage foundation makes such pretty pictures.

    My link was to a Google chart on the unemployment rate. But clearly you have uncovered a conspiracy — the Heritage Foundation obviously controls Google, and uses its manipulation of the search engine to distort the unemployment figures.

    I know now why Lefties don’t like to debate, and prefer to dish out insults. People like you just make up the “facts” as you go along, and that doesn’t work very well in a debate.

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    Where do you Lefties come up with all these easily disproved claims? What will you come up with next? You’re a joke when you spread these lies that anyone can refute in five seconds.

    Where do you Righties come up with all these easily disproved claims? What will you come up with next? You’re a joke when you spread these lies that anyone can refute in five seconds.

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    I know now why Lefties don’t like to debate, and prefer to dish out insults. People like you just make up the “facts” as you go along, and that doesn’t work very well in a debate.

    Ready to debate.
    Where is your data?

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    My link was to a Google chart on the unemployment rate. But clearly you have uncovered a conspiracy — the Heritage Foundation obviously controls Google, and uses its manipulation of the search engine to distort the unemployment figures.

    I know now why Lefties don’t like to debate, and prefer to dish out insults. People like you just make up the “facts” as you go along, and that doesn’t work very well in a debate.

    My link was from REAL TAX ACCOUNTANTS,
    You have some pretty color pictures with no data or reference to back it up.

  • felixw

    right-is-wrong said:
    Did you bother to read the link from REAL tax accounts?
    Nope
    You send me to some jpg picture from some unknown blog that has no root

    You’re the one who sends a link to some liberal pundit. Here are the real tax receipt numbers from the Federal government.

    http://www.truthfulpolitics.com/images/federal_government_revenue.jpg

    The source is listed on my chart, dufus — it’s the Office of Management and Budget” in the federal government. But hey, you have a liberal journalist as your source, so why bother looking at real numbers?

  • felixw

    right-is-wrong said:
    My link was from REAL TAX ACCOUNTANTS,

    Your link is to an article by a liberal journalist. My link was to numbers from the Office of Management and Budget of the Federal Government.

    I repeat tax revenues went up after the Bush tax cuts. Those are the plain facts. You will not be able to disprove them no matter how much you try to spin this matter.

  • MrAut

    felixw said:
    Front page of today’s New York Times

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/us/politics/26dems.html?ref=todayspaper

    Democrats across the country build their campaigns with character attacks because they are afraid to run on issues.

    end of discussion. If you can equate a news story on Democratic advertising strategy with the NYTimes calling Republicans evil, then you’re more far gone than I thought. and do you mean Republicans don’t use negative campaign tactics against dems? Do you mean the NYTimes should just stop reporting on the use of negative ads?

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    You’re the one who sends a link to some liberal pundit. Here are the real tax receipt numbers from the Federal government.

    http://www.truthfulpolitics.com/images/federal_government_revenue.jpg

    The source is listed on my chart, dufus — it’s the Office of Management and Budget” in the federal government. But hey, you have a liberal journalist as your source, so why bother looking at real numbers?

    OOOOH. Pretty picture at least had a real website this time.

    I am SOOOOOO sorry I sent you to those Liberal Pundits over at TAX.COM.

    Guess you need to add that to your list of NBC,CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, TAX.COM

  • felixw

    right-is-wrong said:
    My link was from REAL TAX ACCOUNTANTS,

    Here is another table from the tax policy center

    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

    Check out the federal tax receipts after the Bush tax cuts. Here I will spell them out for the mathematically challenged

    All figures in billions
    2003 $1,782.3
    2004 $1,880.1
    2005 $2,153.6
    2006 $2,406.9
    2007 $2,568.0

    You are a joke for disputing facts like this — all part of the public record. What else do you want to claim? That Elvis is still living and hanging out at your local supermarket?

  • felixw

    right-is-wrong said:
    I am SOOOOOO sorry I sent you to those Liberal Pundits over at TAX.COM.

    Federal tax receipts after the Bush tax cuts

    All figures in billions
    2003 $1,782.3
    2004 $1,880.1
    2005 $2,153.6
    2006 $2,406.9
    2007 $2,568.0

    Try to dance your way around these numbers. You can’t, buddy. Case closed! I just dunked on you!!!!!!!

  • felixw

    Slam-dunk-a-rooney baby!!!!!!!

  • felixw

    MrAut said:
    end of discussion. If you can equate a news story on Democratic advertising strategy with the NYTimes calling Republicans evil

    Ha, ha, ha….end of discussion. Sure, buddy, run and hide after getting your backside handed to you! Adios!!!!!!

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    Ha, ha, ha….end of discussion. Sure, buddy, run and hide after getting your backside handed to you! Adios!!!!!!

    Sorry
    I’ll check your facts when I’m done laughing.

  • Patrick Henry

    right-is-wrong said:
    That would mean no need for a stimulus, although it would not have affected the last administration’s interfering with market capitalism by bailing out irresponsible Wall Streeters instead of letting the market determine their fortunes.

    I’m not sure about the rest of your “facts”, but I do agree with you on the above statement. President Bush was more moderate than conservative. One thing for sure, President Obama and the other Democratic libs are only making it worse. Heaven help us if they stay in control much longer.

  • Patrick Henry

    felixw said:
    Slam-dunk-a-rooney baby!!!!!!!

    Nice take down, Felix. That had to hurt!

  • MrAut

    Should we let David Stockman into the discussion, former Budget guy for President Reagan?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/opinion/01stockman.html?pagewanted=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

    yeah, I know, published in the NYTimes so must be a slander ;)

  • right-is-wrong

    Patrick Henry said:
    I’m not sure about the rest of your “facts”, but I do agree with you on the above statement. President Bush was more moderate than conservative. One thing for sure, President Obama and the other Democratic libs are only making it worse. Heaven help us if they stay in control much longer.

    Hello PH (that’s ok?)
    That statement is an excerpt from
    http://www.tax.com/taxcom/taxblog.nsf/Permalink/CHAS-89LPZ9?OpenDocument
    President Obama and the other Democratic libs are only making it worse.
    Debate?
    Fact?

  • CosmosDan

    felixw said:

    This is your party, MrAut — the party of character attacks, smears, insults, ridicule and avoidance of the issues. Why is the Left so afraid of running on the track record of the Obama administration? That’s easy to answer — the Obama administration has been a disaster. So Democrats need to run on character attacks.

    I read that article. Let’s not promote the fantasy that conservatives do not resort character attacks. I’d love to see the Dems have the balls to fight back based on policy. They should demand their opponents talk about specifics rather than generalities.

    I think examining the character of new candidates is perfectly valid. If they have no political background what are you going to look at? Some of the things quoted look pretty dam serious if true.

  • dahni

    Obama and his Czars are committed to THE IDEA…Much like other elite intellectuals Mario Savio and Bill Ayers(named here because I had personal interactions with their IDES’s), once they have the IDEA and start trying to put it into effect they do not recognize (nor care about) the collateral damage they cause. Whether using force to take over and destroy university building, bomb the Pentagon or Pass a Law to Distribute the Wealth, the IDEA is just about all that they understand. They do not understand that others who do not hold that IDEA as holy also have rights.

  • CosmosDan

    felixw said:
    Federal tax receipts after the Bush tax cuts

    All figures in billions
    2003 $1,782.3
    2004 $1,880.1
    2005 $2,153.6
    2006 $2,406.9
    2007 $2,568.0

    Try to dance your way around these numbers. You can’t, buddy. Case closed! I just dunked on you!!!!!!!

    You might want to look at this while you’re doing the victory dance.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf

  • right-is-wrong

    felixw said:
    Here is another table from the tax policy center

    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

    Check out the federal tax receipts after the Bush tax cuts. Here I will spell them out for the mathematically challenged

    All figures in billions
    2003 $1,782.3
    2004 $1,880.1
    2005 $2,153.6
    2006 $2,406.9
    2007 $2,568.0

    You are a joke for disputing facts like this — all part of the public record. What else do you want to claim? That Elvis is still living and hanging out at your local supermarket?

    Read the chart.
    See your numbers. – I can CLEARLY see that revenue went up.
    Now – Tax professionals say

    Total income was $2.74 trillion less during the eight Bush years than if incomes had stayed at 2000 levels.

    That much additional income would have more than made up for the lack of demand that keeps us mired in the Great Recession. That would mean no need for a stimulus, although it would not have affected the last administration’s interfering with market capitalism by bailing out irresponsible Wall Streeters instead of letting the market determine their fortunes

  • MrAut

    felixw said:
    Ha, ha, ha….end of discussion. Sure, buddy, run and hide after getting your backside handed to you! Adios!!!!!!

    another tough guy on the Internet. oh well. The only ‘scary’ thing about you dude is your inability to read a newspaper – and then bragging about it

  • Azarkhan

    MrAut said:
    Should we let David Stockman into the discussion, former Budget guy for President Reagan?

    Only if you want to talk about stuff that happened 30 years ago.

  • right-is-wrong

    Azarkhan said:
    Only if you want to talk about stuff that happened 30 years ago.

    pick a topic
    http://www.inthe80s.com/time1980.shtml

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Dowd doesn’t seem to understand The Backlash. What was the President supposed to do or say?

    I’m sure that he felt that the Tea Party’s reversion to the 19th Century or 1750 would be enough to get the progressives to work as hard as they did two years ago, but apparently too many of them are concerned about what Obama hasn’t done well enough for their particular pet projects.

    Meanwhile, yes, the Republican takeover of Congress is about to take us to hell in a hand basket (again).

  • MrAut

    Azarkhan said:
    Only if you want to talk about stuff that happened 30 years ago.

    yes, I see your point. So if I say, “should we consult the Founding Fathers on that?” the right answer is, “Only if you want to talk about the late 1700′s.” Got it.

  • Cecelia

    It’s amazing to me that we have had this discussion about the prejudices against Muslims, and how tricks were used to paint the president as being Muslim, when his religion shouldn’t be a factor in his competency even it were true.

    However, here we have a candidate who may well discount evolution because of HER religious beliefs, and somehow that’s a step backwards into the Dark Ages.

    What Dowd and other elites are really saying is that religious beliefs are fine and that candidates should not be discounted for them, as long as they aren’t running as a Republican.

  • JamesA1102

    What Dowd doesn’t realize is that she is one of the chief nutters. Reading her column is like reading a spoiled teenager’s slam book.

  • writer

    Cosmos, if you were trying to make us nostalgic for Carter, it’s not working.

  • shootfromthehip

    Great piece by Dowd that gets to the heart of the matter. The tea party candidates such as Christine have NO education, NO clue and do not belong in office. This is not student council, this is the Congress we are talkiung about here.

    Christine does not have the smarts or the experience to be Delaware’s Rep, and even Republicans should know this.

  • Patrick Henry

    right-is-wrong said:
    Hello PH (that’s ok?)
    That statement is an excerpt from
    http://www.tax.com/taxcom/taxblog.nsf/Permalink/CHAS-89LPZ9?OpenDocument
    President Obama and the other Democratic libs are only making it worse.
    Debate?
    Fact?

    Hi R-i-W, yes PH is fine. That is my opinion on how I see things now. I’m no economist, but I read alot of history and I truly think we need tax cuts for small business (and for everyone for that matter), a capital gains tax cut, and to cut the size of government and spending to right this ship. I somehow doubt President Obama or the Dems in Congress would ever consider those ideas.

  • Patrick Henry

    shootfromthehip said:
    Christine does not have the smarts or the experience to be Delaware’s Rep, and even Republicans should know this.

    Shoot, in reality, the main part of a Senator’s job is to cast a vote. Not that difficult, especially when you don’t even have to read the bill. I bet even you and I could do it!

  • right-is-wrong

    Patrick Henry said:
    Hi R-i-W, yes PH is fine. That is my opinion on how I see things now. I’m no economist, but I read alot of history and I truly think we need tax cuts for small business (and for everyone for that matter), a capital gains tax cut, and to cut the size of government and spending to right this ship. I somehow doubt President Obama or the Dems in Congress would ever consider those ideas.

    Agree with the small business tax cuts (not large corporations with under 10 shareholders small).
    Smarter govt, not lobbies, and term limits could achieve your view.

    I think right now you have 2 problems.
    1) the people who have been labeled Tea Party or Libertarian who hold non libertarian view ehn it comes to morality

    2) the republicans just gutted the principals with their PLEDGE.

    I for one see Libertarians as allies.
    I see (or I believe) the Tea Party has been hijacked.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Cosmos, if you were trying to make us nostalgic for Carter, it’s not working.

    No I wouldn’t try to do that. I was only agreeing with one comment he made.

    I personally think Carter could have been a much better president than he’s been given credit for but he was sabotaged by his own party who couldn’t take having a honest practical man in the white house who wanted to accomplish realistic things rather than operate from a point of political expediency. But that’s just my take on it.

  • Mr B

    Howard Dean is just as much to blame, as Obama, for letting the nutters get a foothold. This crap got out of control from 2000 on and peaked in 2008. It was amazing watching the Democrats run right off the cliff; as they embraced the nuttroots, the enabling media, and all the stupid ideas that they are hiding from now.

    Reap, sow, fuc%ers Don’t say you weren’t warned.

  • http://none pyrope

    Moderate said:
    She would serve as a good balance for Dennis kasinich.

    Balance? Actually, with the exception of Ms. Dowdy’s long history of boozing, I tend to think they’re peas from the same pod.

  • CosmosDan

    Cecelia said:
    It’s amazing to me that we have had this discussion about the prejudices against Muslims, and how tricks were used to paint the president as being Muslim, when his religion shouldn’t be a factor in his competency even it were true.

    However, here we have a candidate who may well discount evolution because of HER religious beliefs, and somehow that’s a step backwards into the Dark Ages.

    What Dowd and other elites are really saying is that religious beliefs are fine and that candidates should not be discounted for them, as long as they aren’t running as a Republican.

    I think that’s a valid point. If we were going to find one standard I’d say a candidates religion shouldn’t matter. If someone thinks rejecting evolution is a little extreme so what? How does that affect her ability to be a Senator?
    I’d say it would matter to me if I saw a candidate’s religious beliefs so affect his or her voting in a way I strongly disagreed with. At that point it’s not about their religion but their votes.
    When I was in high school my biology teacher refused to reach evolution because of his religious beliefs. At the time I didn’t care, it was just work I didn’t have to do. If my kids or my grand kids told me a teacher said that I’d have a problem. If an elected official made an effort to minimize science and teach “creation theory” I’d have a problem with that. Have whatever religion you want. When it bleeds over into society, and other people’s lives , they get to have a say.

  • http://none pyrope

    JamesA1102 said:
    What Dowd doesn’t realize is that she is one of the chief nutters. Reading her column is like reading a spoiled teenager’s slam book.

    BINGO!

  • http://none pyrope

    Big Eddie said:
    Maureen just thinking back …http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgyZCgw6kdw

    Something is wrong with that link, but thanks for your efforts just the same.

  • http://none pyrope

    Cecelia said:
    What Dowd and other elites are really saying is that religious beliefs are fine and that candidates should not be discounted for them, as long as they aren’t running as a Republican.

    A well-reasoned deduction.

  • joeshmoe

    felixw said:
    Unemployment rate at the end of the Bush presidency 7.2%
    Unemployment rate under Obama = 9.6%

    If Bush’s record on jobs is the worst, how do you describe this trend:

    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usunemployment&met=unemployment_rate&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=unemployment+rate

    What buffoons you find on the left — to make claims that are so easily disproved.

    The financial system collapsed under Bush, causing the unemployment, and the death spiral of the economy. Businesses couldn’t borrow, they laid people off, demand plummeted, therefore more people were fired. This whole process takes months.

    felixw said:
    No, the record for deficits belong to Obama. Check out the real numbers:

    http://factreal.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ecoobamavsbushbudgetdeficit2010feb.jpg

    Obama has already spent more borrowed money than all the Presidents from George Washington to Ronald Reagan.

    How pathetic for the Left to toss out such easily disproved fabrications.

    Apparently Obama will be president until 2020, so I am glad the heritage foundation is so confident in his abilities.

    felixw said:

    Obama has already spent more borrowed money than all the Presidents from George Washington to Ronald Reagan.

    How pathetic for the Left to toss out such easily disproved fabrications.

    Ahem, ever heard of World War 2, I am pretty Roosevelt spent some money.

    felixw said:
    Great claim, except it’s not backed up by real numbers. Income went up substantially under Bush.

    For the wealthy, meanwhile he absolutely destroyed the middle class, and turned us into some third world country where the rich have 95% of the wealth, and we get to fight over the scraps that fall off the plate. So screw the deficit, its just some BS the republicans are saying since they are in the minority. We have real problems.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/09/wealth_disparity_weve_left_the.html

  • jukin3

    I still can’t figure out why a bitter old maid like Dowd (How apropos?) is still given a platform to spey her hatred.

  • CosmosDan

    pyrope said:
    A well-reasoned deduction.

    Well, there is a little difference between “I believe in God” and rejecting accepted science in favor of religious myth.

  • http://none pyrope

    CosmosDan said:
    Well, there is a little difference between “I believe in God” and rejecting accepted science in favor of religious myth.

    My remark was made on the observation of dual standards as used by Ms. Dowdy.

  • Anonymous

    There are
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