“In a bizarre and rambling interview with Today’s Meredith Vieira, Rev Jones reminds us that his 15 minutes should be ending sooner rather than later.”

Be nice if NBC could get that clue.

For crying out loud media, stop covering this nut.

and please don’t go looking for another.

It was NBC and other Liberal media outlets who were pushing this story in the first place.

Remember when the Liberal MSM was trying to discredit Bush and the war. They published the Abu Grb photos EVEN AFTER THE COMMANDERS PLEADED with them not too…but they did…which led to riots and murders.

Now this. The MSM is doing this to find stories about “Islamphobia” to prove their FALSE point that the Ground Zero Mosque should be built…but it is backfiring on them…and if there is blood of innocent people, it is not on the Pastor’s hands, but on the MSM, because there have been previous Quran burnings in the U.S.

A Muslim lied to an infidel ! Taqiyya , baby .

uh…Pastor Jones…I guess you never heard of Taqqiya?

Muslims are allowed to lie to advance Islam;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8I4VyLI-mI

In Islam lying is OK.

Oh and Liberals…McVeigh was an agnostic and said “Science was his Religion”…and there is child abuse in Islam, not only in the Catholic church.

so quit using those false memes to try to make the moral equivalence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4084951.stm

The new Al Sharpton here looks like he’d be happier at Bike Week in Daytona .

This wouldn’t even be a story if the media didn’t want to use this guy in its never-ending effort to paint a particular picture of the religious right, middle america, tea baggers, flyover goyim etc.

Big Eddie, he’s still just a prospect. He hasn’t been ‘patched in’ yet.

Thanks to the Liberal MSM ginning up the Quran burning OTHER CHURCHES are now planning to burn the Quran across the nation.

You are too blame for your stance to defend the Ground Zero Mosque and trying to prove that there was rampant Islamophobia in the U.S.

Latin2 said:
Oh and Liberals…McVeigh was an agnostic and said “Science was his Religion”…and there is child abuse in Islam, not only in the Catholic church.

so quit using those false memes to try to make the moral equivalence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4084951.stm

I would agree if someone had actually said that on this thread, but they didn’t. Your comment is apropos of nothing in this context.

Other small churches want the same fame and spotlight that the Liberal MSM will give them…causing harm to our soliders, just to help the Ground Zero Mosque builders. Small backwater churches have been burning the Qurans and doing other stuff…and now because of MSNBC and other Liberal MSM there is MORE focus on those small churches.

So Mediaite…where is your story about Imam Rauf THREATENING the U.S.?

Stephen Hogan said:
I would agree if someone had actually said that on this thread, but they didn’t. Your comment is apropos of nothing in this context.

They already brought it up on other threads and I am just getting ready for their b.s.

Latin2 said:
They already brought it up on other threads and I am just getting ready for their b.s.

I realize that, but that probably won’t stop anyone from making the equivalence.

And sorry if I was a bit harsh. I just get irritated when people type comments in bold. Just like caps lock, it feels like screaming to me. Or, at the very least, an attempt to make the comment stand out more. In the end, it is only distracting.

Stephen Hogan said:
I realize that, but that probably won’t stop anyone from making the equivalence.

And sorry if I was a bit harsh. I just get irritated when people type comments in bold. Just like caps lock, it feels like screaming to me. Or, at the very least, an attempt to make the comment stand out more. In the end, it is only distracting.

I could care less what others think about my typing style

This guy is an idiot, but he’s only threatened to burn 3 book. Yet because of his threat, there have already been bibles burned, US flags burned and chants of “Death to Christian” across portions of the muslim world. Even the neocon Pat Buchanan and ultra-liberal Donny Deutsch have called for this guy to be arrested.

Now, you tell me who the intolerant ones are.

More Liberty said:
Now, you tell me who the intolerant ones are.

It certainly seems that Islam is poster child for intolerance. Ironic that their most fervent defenders are the same people that make a living off of yelling “intolerant racists!” at conservatives.

Latin2 said:
I could care less what others think about my typing style

Fair enough. Just as you have the freedom to type the way you want to, I have the freedom to voice my opinion. It’s distracting (that is the point of it, isn’t it?) and indicative of someone who feels like they must do something special to their type because, for some reason or another, they just don’t feel like the normal typeface that everyone else respectfully uses is not good enough for them.

When did Jed Clampett leave Beverly Hills, and start running a church?

I can NOT believe Meredith is blaming him for that guy getting shot and killed. I also can’t believe that the media is ignoring the fact that the Muslim world is using threats and intimidation to stop some yokel from burning a book. Especially, as I said yesterday, when they are burning our flag, images of our president, and now killing people over it. (and they stone women to death)

I don’t know about all ya’ll but I don’t take too kindly to threats of violence for executing our freedoms. We can’t stop being *free* and give in to/live in fear of threats of violence.

Oh, and as for my other comments yesterday that they always make threats, the threats happened before this, and will continue, I received an email from the US consulate in Italy today:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_4787.html

“The Department of State remains concerned about the continued threat of terrorist attacks, demonstrations, and other violent actions against U.S. citizens and interests overseas. U.S. citizens are reminded that demonstrations and rioting can occur with little or no warning. Current information suggests that al-Qaida and affiliated organizations continue to plan terrorist attacks against U.S. interests in multiple regions, including Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. These attacks may employ a wide variety of tactics including suicide operations, assassinations, kidnappings, hijackings, and bombings. ”

These threats have nothing to do with the mosque or the Quran burning.

Mr.Papshmer said:
It certainly seems that Islam is poster child for intolerance. Ironic that their most fervent defenders are the same people that make a living off of yelling “intolerant racists!” at conservatives.

It’s amazing to me.

I have no problem with the Mosque two blocks from ground zero. The reason is, a private individual should be able to do what he wants with his/her private property. The Pastor, although an idiot, should be able to allowed to express himself on his own property without fear of violence. While his acts might upset people, he should not be intimidated in relinquishing his freedom of speech via threats of violence from those that are intolerant. You see, that is in and of itself terrorism. By succumbing to the possibility of violence from extremists, the terrorist win.

How would Meredith like it if we blamed her for that guy’s death because her network keeps running this story and providing the propaganda needed to inflame these riots around the world?

I love how someone gives me a thumbs down for supporting liberty. Crazy.

“He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”
-Benjamin Franklin

sarainitaly said:
How would Meredith like it if we blamed her for that guy’s death because her network keeps running this story and providing the propaganda needed to inflame these riots around the world?

Note the treatment of those who are against the Ground Zero Mosque are asked the most offesensive questions, yet Daisy Khan and her husband Imam “Taqqiya” Rauf are treated with kid gloves, and not asked about funding or backing or why they won’t move the Mosque, or their previous statements.

Watch how Breitbart is treated by the Left leaning BBC. Breibart schools the BBC reporter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZU8_h5PkkU&feature=player_embedded

The Left is STILL trying to make the connection between the Ground Zero Mosque, Islamophobia and Pastor Jones

There should be posters made with this moron’s picture saying “This is Why There is a Separation of Church and State”

What this whole Quran burning and Mosque issue is about is Liberty. An individual private citizen of these United States should be able to purchase private property, and build what he/she wants on that private property. Like wise, an individual should be able to express himself on his/her private property without fear and intimidation.

Individual liberty appears to be the overall victim in these two cases.

Hawk11 said:
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Hawk11 said:
There should be posters made with this moron’s picture saying “This is Why There is a Separation of Church and State”

What the US Constitution actually says is “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”

More Liberty said:
By succumbing to the possibility of violence from extremists, the terrorist win.

yep. well said.

Also, we keep hearing that Muslims are peaceful and tolerant, that it is only the extremists who are dangerous. Not all Muslims are extremists. But…these protests seem to be from all Muslims, not extremists. So, we are told not to link Muslims to extremists, but they are kind of doing that themselves with their worldwide threats of Death to America, and Death to Christians chants.

“If Quran is burned, it would be beginning of destruction of America,” read one English-language banner held up by the protesters, who chanted “Down with America!”

“This is a plan by Zionists to put the entire world into trouble, so it should be foiled,” Tariq Naeemullah, the head of the Joint Civic Front, a coalition of non-governmental organizations in Multan.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said images of the Quran in flames could “threaten world peace,” Heru Lelono, a special adviser to the president, told reporters Thursday.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iUEeCEU_vHovLivtFdhSaGPrfAyQD9I4A84O0
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6891AM20100910
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jnhrWvJN6BnAHJ7O4AAZwpYCplFA

sarainitaly said:
How would Meredith like it if we blamed her for that guy’s death because her network keeps running this story and providing the propaganda needed to inflame these riots around the world?

Can you imagine an American Kurt Westergaard causing the same media furor?

More Liberty said:
I love how someone gives me a thumbs down for supporting liberty. Crazy. “He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”-Benjamin Franklin

“I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend unto death your right to say it!”

More Liberty said:
While his acts might upset people, he should not be intimidated in relinquishing his freedom of speech via threats of violence from those that are intolerant. You see, that is in and of itself terrorism. By succumbing to the possibility of violence from extremists, the terrorist win.

Absolutely true. There is a huge difference between the GZM and Jones’ koran burning.

Opponents of the GZM protest in areas fenced off by the NYPD and write in these comment sections and are outraged and yes, lots of anti-islam hatred comes out. No violence. This is called lawful protest.

Opponents of the koran burn flags and bibles and gather up their guns and knives and threaten beheadings. The threat of violence scares people into begging Jones not to go through with it. This is called terrorism.

I heard O’Reilly say last night that viewers wouldn’t be seeing the face of this grandstanding preacher on his show, since he didn’t want to dignify the loon with the publicity he so craves. And that should be the obvious response of responsible journalists. Why reward someone with fame for a pathetic stunt like this? It’s sort of like a politically-charged balloon boy news story, isn’t it? And as the mosque angle makes clear, Jones is just making stuff up now, just like the balloon boy dad.

But the folks at MSNBC and CNN can’t stop slobbering over this story, turning the whole thing into a foreign policy fiasco in the process. Even though every leading Republican has come out against the Koran burning, guys like Anderson Cooper and Keith Olbermann still are trying to find some angle they can use to score some political points off the non-story. And, hey, if some troops get killed and suicide bombers blow up innocent bystanders as a result of their turning this into their biggest story of the month, well I guess they’re okay with that. And you know, that the folks at CNN don’t want to cover the economy, the polls, the looming election, and the other real news stories of the day. So expect to see more of this preacher in the mainstream media.

I don’t agree with burning the Quran, but that jack-hat has every damn right to do it without fear. It is the US Governments obligation to protect him, and his right to free expression. They shouldn’t be sending out FBI Agents to talk to him unless they are investigating threats against him and his rights.

More Liberty said:
What the US Constitution actually says is “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”

It means that the congress shouldn’t run the country on the basis of the establishment of any religion. Religion has no place in government. I love it how people feel they can interpret what the founding fathers were thinking when the constitution was created. Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and James Madison crafted this document for the times they were in. The most brilliant thing about the Constitution is they left it open to be ratified because they knew that times would change, they knew that changes would need to be made. Do you think if those men were here today that the Constitution would be worded the way it is now? Do you think the righties beloved 2nd amendment would be written the way it was if they knew what the world was like now?

Hawk11 said:
It means that the congress shouldn’t run the country on the basis of the establishment of any religion. Religion has no place in government. I love it how people feel they can interpret what the founding fathers were thinking when the constitution was created. Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and James Madison crafted this document for the times they were in. The most brilliant thing about the Constitution is they left it open to be ratified because they knew that times would change, they knew that changes would need to be made. Do you think if those men were here today that the Constitution would be worded the way it is now? Do you think the righties beloved 2nd amendment would be written the way it was if they knew what the world was like now?

I do believe that those men would have included the 2nd Amendment. They had just finished kicking off the yoke of King George with their weapons. They knew the value to an armed society against government tyranny.

Hawk11 said:
It means that the congress shouldn’t run the country on the basis of the establishment of any religion. Religion has no place in government.

It means just what it says. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”. It’s really quite simple.

Hawk11 said:
The most brilliant thing about the Constitution is they left it open to be ratified

I think you mean “amended”.

Hawk11 said:
I love it how people feel they can interpret what the founding fathers were thinking when the constitution was created.

Ok, so you don’t think people should read the Constitution, Federalist papers, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence and compare and contrast the information and thus come up with various conclusions. We should just smile and believe what the government tells us. Real smart.

Hawk11 said:
It means that the congress shouldn’t run the country on the basis of the establishment of any religion.

Then you go on to make your own interpretations. Hypocrite

“No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms.”
Thomas Jefferson

felixw said:
It’s sort of like a politically-charged balloon boy news story, isn’t it? And as the mosque angle makes clear, Jones is just making stuff up now, just like the balloon boy dad.

haha
http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/20884#comment-170742

Cecelia said:
Can you imagine an American Kurt Westergaard causing the same media furor?

No kidding!

Latin2 said:
Watch how Breitbart is treated by the Left leaning BBC. Breibart schools the BBC reporter

That was a good interview, thanks for posting.

OK, this moron has had his 15 minutes. Can we pull the plug on his own “dangerous, radical, violent” crap?

MrAut said:
OK, this moron has had his 15 minutes. Can we pull the plug on his own “dangerous, radical, violent” crap?

When are you people going to stand up for liberty, and against fear and intimidation? I might not care for this dudes actions, but I sure the hell am going to defend his right to do it. Why are so many people allowing fear and intimidation to override personal liberty?

More Liberty said:
When are you people going to stand up for liberty, and against fear and intimidation? I might not care for this dudes actions, but I sure the hell am going to defend his right to do it. Why are so many people allowing fear and intimidation to override personal liberty?

He has a right to burn the Koran, but he does not have the right to publicity. If the media has decided not to air any more of his antics, that’s their prerogative and it certainly does not violate the rights of the pastor.

More Liberty said:
When are you people going to stand up for liberty, and against fear and intimidation? I might not care for this dudes actions, but I sure the hell am going to defend his right to do it. Why are so many people allowing fear and intimidation to override personal liberty?

I don’t quite understand why you think his liberties are being taken away? I haven’t read or heard that he was told he would be arrested or detained if he did burn the koran. Unless I missed it. I am under the impression they are only trying to plead to his better judgement to cancel the burning. So, then are you saying the people objecting and asking him to change his mind, should lose their liberty of freedom of speech?

Sounds to me like the pastor is doing some lying.

Latin2 says: “The MSM is doing this to find stories about “Islamphobia” to prove their FALSE point that the Ground Zero Mosque should be built”

Park 51 is to be an inter-faith cultural center, not a mosque. It cannot be seen from Ground Zero and Ground Zero cannot be seen from it. “Ground Zero mosque” is a fiction created in the minds of Islamaphobes and perpetuated by the gullible and frightened.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/beck-blogs-from-theblaze-and-compares.html

I’ve pointed out a couple of times that this wing-nut would cause Americans harm here in the U.S. if he goes ahead and burns the Koran. There’s some evidence to back this assertion up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/10/us-does-not-have-system-i_n_711916.html/

More Liberty said:
I have no problem with the Mosque two blocks from ground zero. The reason is, a private individual should be able to do what he wants with his/her private property. The Pastor, although an idiot, should be able to allowed to express himself on his own property without fear of violence. While his acts might upset people, he should not be intimidated in relinquishing his freedom of speech via threats of violence from those that are intolerant. You see, that is in and of itself terrorism. By succumbing to the possibility of violence from extremists, the terrorist win.

Yep.

I’m getting sick of “this moron has had his 15 minutes” meme.

Sure he’s a moron, but he stumbled on a very important issue that needs to be addressed. Maybe it took a crazy man to have the balls to do it.

Radical Islamic intimidation of Americans is not a “15 minute” story.

Big_F-ing_Deal says: “Radical Islamic intimidation of Americans is not a “15 minute” story.”

These reactionaries (radicals go forward; reactionaries go backward) started targeting the U.S. after we occupied their holy land in response to Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait. Our imperial footprint expanded into their region, and then they targeted us.

So long as we remain as occupiers in the Middle East, the reactionary elements of Islam will continue to frame our presence at a Crusader force against Islam.

I opposed the war to “liberate” Kuwait then, and I oppose U.S. involvement in the Middle East now. We’re stepping on their toes in their part of the world. Beck and Rauf agree more or less on this point. We’re violating our ideals over there, and the reactionary “intimidation of Americans” is their response.

Our over-reaction to the 9-11 attacks has played right into bin Laden’s hand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/09/AR2010090904735.html?wpisrc=nl_pmopinions

Terry’s a great addition to the Republiscum scene. But where is his – Birth Certificate??

“And in Afghanistan, at least 11 people were injured in protests of Jones’ proposal to burn copies of the Quran.”

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/10/1817700/pastor-i-wont-burn-quran-if-i.html#ixzz0z9pCk14G

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
I’m getting sick of “this moron has had his 15 minutes” meme. Sure he’s a moron, but he stumbled on a very important issue that needs to be addressed. Maybe it took a crazy man to have the balls to do it. Radical Islamic intimidation of Americans is not a “15 minute” story.

I’m not sure if whether you’re being serious, but you are absolutely right. The only person in the media I’ve even heard make this point was Dan Senor, and he did it ever-so-slightly on Morning Joke this morning.

This is the return on the investment that the craziest muslims are getting on their bat-shit-crazy response to the mohammed cartoons. Even the moderates will have to respect that intimidation gets results.

sarainitaly says:
Also, we keep hearing that Muslims are peaceful and tolerant, that it is only the extremists who are dangerous. Not all Muslims are extremists. But…these protests seem to be from all Muslims, not extremists. So, we are told not to link Muslims to extremists, but they are kind of doing that themselves with their worldwide threats of Death to America, and Death to Christians chants.

“If Quran is burned, it would be beginning of destruction of America,” read one English-language banner held up by the protesters, who chanted “Down with America!”

SERIOUSLY SARA? of all the billions of people in the world youv’e seen them all?

Perhaps muslims get to see our 24 hour obsession with the idiot in florida, and you have seen the muslim idiots in the streets.

GlennBeckReview said:
Latin2 says: “The MSM is doing this to find stories about “Islamphobia” to prove their FALSE point that the Ground Zero Mosque should be built”

Park 51 is to be an inter-faith cultural center, not a mosque. It cannot be seen from Ground Zero and Ground Zero cannot be seen from it. “Ground Zero mosque” is a fiction created in the minds of Islamaphobes and perpetuated by the gullible and frightened.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/beck-blogs-from-theblaze-and-compares.html

oh, really, I guess than Muslims on the internet are Islamophobes, because they are calling it A MOSQUE…not a community center. People monitoring the internet have said that Muslims are calling it…wait for it…THE GROUND ZERO MOSQUE. So I will go them.

Also Mosques ARE Islamic Community Centers.

bugspot1 said:
SERIOUSLY SARA? of all the billions of people in the world youv’e seen them all?

Perhaps muslims get to see our 24 hour obsession with the idiot in florida, and you have seen the muslim idiots in the streets.

I don’t consider 10′s of thousands of people, and global alerts about world wide violence *fringe*, do you?

The news reported 10,000 people flowing into the streets in protest, chanting and burning flags, bibles and images of POTUS.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iF1QhzeCG2PlQnyguisE_d-YxPMAD9I5K3R00

The international police organization Interpol issued a global alert to its 188 member-countries determining “strong likelihood” of violent attacks if the burn goes forward. Interpol said in a statement that Pakistan’s interior minister, Rehman Malik, called the organization and asked it to warn other police forces around the world of an increased terror threat.

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan, e-mailed The Associated Press to say “images of the burning of a Quran would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan – and around the world – to inflame public opinion and incite violence.” It comes as an emotional debate continues over a proposed Islamic center near the ground zero site of the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York.

Meanwhile, the State Department issued a travel alert “to caution U.S. citizens of the potential for anti-U.S. demonstrations in many countries” in response to the planned burning of Qurans. (I got mine)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/09/national/main6850429.shtml

And when you have the FBI warning the Pastor that he would most likely be killed…

According to officials familiar with the situation, the FBI visited Pastor Terry Jones several times. There is no law against what he wanted to do, they told him, but they were concerned about what might happen to HIM if he went ahead with his Koran Bonfire. They talked to him about being a potential target for violence and threats and told him the story of the Danish cartoonist and other people who have had their lives changed by making this kind of bold statement. They also told him they were concerned that civil rights violations and hate crimes might grow out of what he was planning to do and they wanted him to understand that.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/09/10/129775780/quran-burning-pastor-warned-by-fbi-he-could-face-revenge-hit

And more touchy feely stuff like this:

Ahmadinejad: Koran burning will bring about Israel’s annihilation
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/ahmadinejad-koran-burning-will-bring-about-israel-s-annihilation-1.313189?localLinksEnabled=false