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Scalia Defends Citizens United Decision: ‘If The System Seems Crazy… Don’t Blame It On The Court’

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Yesterday marked a significant anniversary in campaign finance history: the second anniversary of the Supreme Court’s controversial ruling in Citizens United vs. the Federal Election Commission that concluded corporations are legally people and can use unlimited campaign funds to support candidates for public office. Justices Antonin Scalia and Stephen Breyer discussed the decision yesterday before the South Carolina bar, with Scalia telling opponents of the decision to just turn their TVs off if they didn’t like seeing all the negative ads.

RELATED: Rachel Maddow Fears New Citizens United Influence, But Swiftboating Isn’t New

Breyer admitted that “when a decision isn’t unanimous, ‘somebody is making a mistake’” and voiced his concerns with the implications the decision holds for future elections, including this year’s presidential race.

“There are real problems when people want to spend lots of money on a candidate … they’ll drown out the people who don’t have a lot of money.”

However, Scalia vigorously defended the decision, insisting that the Supreme Court was not to blame for the craziness in the campaign finance system and all the legal issues surrounding Super PACs. He put the impetus on elected officials to change the system and on voters to not just choose candidates who spend the most money on elections, because that just feeds into the status quo. However, he does not personally have an issue with the way the system works now.

“I don’t care who is doing the speech — the more the merrier… People are not stupid. If they don’t like it, they’ll shut it off.”

RELATED: Newt Gingrich Hilariously Tells Chuck Todd He’s No Victim Of Citizens United

Scalia and Breyer were also asked about the upcoming Supreme Court hearings over President Obama‘s health care law, but refused to say much on the subject before the hearings actually take place.

h/t CBS News

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  • Anonymous

    “…with Scalia telling opponents of the decision to just turn their TVs off if they didn’t like seeing all the negative ads.”

    Translation: Stick your heads in the sand. Just like we did.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Worst Supreme Court judge… EVER!!

  • Anonymous

    Pathetic turd.

  • Anonymous

    Word to Justice Scalia: he’s not defending the Citizen’s United decision, he’s condoning judicial malpractice.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, It is shameful that the popular will does not supercede our bill of rights or the laws governing corporate entities.. It’s not like it would be the first time that our courts have felt free to trash the constitution.  

  • Anonymous

    2nd worst behind Thomas.

  • Anonymous

    That would require you actually doing something.

    That is not possible.

  • Anonymous

    Are you retired? I really hope so.

    Scalia doesn’t spend his time trolling Palin supporter sites, like you.

  • Anonymous

    ‘The system is broken, we helped break it even further than it was before by making a decision nearly everyone regards as stupid but don’t blame us for it as it’s not our fault! You can always try and persuade people who will undoubtedly benefit from this decision to change the law to counteract it after the next election cycle, that should be easy, right? Right?’

  • Anonymous

    You actually consider this sack of monkey spunk a judge.Boy you are Liberal!!!!! I personally wouldn’t trust this individual to accurately call a women’s mud wrestling event.

  • Anonymous

    Scalia is right- and he’s an outstanding jurist. 

    Given the proliferation of DVRs, it’s supremely easy to skip ads- even easier to mute them.

    My solution to phone calls is to tell them, “If you call me again, I will donate to your opponent and vote for him as well.”

  • Anonymous

    Dick Cheney’s duck hunting pal Scalia, unfortunately does not hunt with his old buddy anymore.  Too bad, I hear Cheney’s aim has improved.

  • Anonymous

    Who else can we blame it on?  The majority of the court rules on behalf of Republicans.

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    Instead of going after Scalia…Mediaite should be asking why the “bought-and-paid-for” fat ugly bitch doesn’t recuse herself from the Obamacare bill she wrote.

  • Anonymous

    Hit the road, PAC and don’t you come back
    no more, no more. no more, no more.
    It’s a load, PAC. Don’t you attack no more.
    (What you say?!)
    Sit commode, PAC and dump your flack
    some more, some more, the lies outpour
    Hit the road, PAC and don’t you come back no more.

    Oh, voter! Oh, voter don’t treat me so mean.
    The court told me no ban of a guy with green.
    They gave me the say so.
    Don’t tell me how to spend my dough.(That’s right)

    Newt the Toad, PAC. Don’t you attack no more, no more, no more, no more.
    Bought and sold, PAC Don’t you attack no more
    (What’d I pay?!)
    Mitt We Know, PAC. Is he a quack? A friend or foe? Can’t know! Can’t know
    Reap What’s Sowed, PAC. Don’t you come back no more.

    Now voter, listen voter. Don’t you treat me this a way
    I’ll lay low an’ take the heat for today

    Don’t care if you do Colbert understood
    You got too much money. You just ain’t no good.

    Well, I guess if you say so. I’ll have to pack my ads and go.
    (That’s right!)

    Money Flowed, PAC In the paper sack
    there’s more, there’s more, millions galore
    Legal Code, PAC It’s outta whack. It’s war.
    (Well, I can’t hear you)
    You whore!
    (Just the way it is)
    I’m sore.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not the point that we can turn them off and not listen, it’s the point that lies presented in these ads influence the politically ignorant.  That’s the point that Scaylea ignores. I know too many people who believe ANYTHING that’s portrayed on Fox News or in the ads purchased with Citizen United funds.

  • Pablo

    No, you could expend some effort and figure things out for yourself. The information your getting during breaks in Two and a Half Men does not satisfy your social responsibility to educate yourself.

  • Pablo

    So, if I were to call Ruth Bader Ginsburg a useless bag lady, you’d say….what?

    Antonin Scalia is an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court. Deal with it. 

  • Pablo

    They upheld the First Amendment. How do you figure otherwise?

  • Anonymous

    I think that you miss my sarcasm.

  • Pablo

    It’s not the point that we can turn them off and not listen, it’s the
    point that lies presented in these ads influence the politically
    ignorant.  That’s the point that Scaylea ignores.

    No, he doesn’t ignore it. He just doesn’t think it trumps the First Amendment.

    I know too many people who believe ANYTHING that’s portrayed on Fox News
    or in the ads purchased with Citizen United funds.

    Really? How many is too many, and which ads have been purchased with “Citizen United funds”?

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 American

    Ahhh, spoken like a true Republican.  Nothing is EVER his fault. 

  • Anonymous

    Still dealing with a sack of monkey spun.You deal with it.

  • Anonymous

    this is true. yet when you flood the airwaves with misinformation it certainly makes it harder to discern the truth, particularly when most of the citizenry aren’t as involved in political study as others are.  It also can be blamed on a media that focuses more on personality than substance but i think that’s a different issue. 

  • Anonymous

    equating money to free speech is a ridiculous argument. one that suggests that the wealthy have more free speech than those without money. 

  • Anonymous

    No, he doesn’t ignore it. He just doesn’t think it trumps the First Amendment.

    Fair enough, but why does a corporation have First Amendment rights?

  • Pablo

    equating money to free speech is a ridiculous argument.

    Yes it is. Equating money to speech at all is silly. You should stop.

  • Pablo

    The First Amendment restrains the government. Why wouldn’t a corporation have First Amendment rights?

  • Anonymous

    That is the point.Corporations are not people,just profit making entities.Congress has the power too overturn this decision.The question is why they do not.

  • Anonymous

    That is the point.Corporations are not people,just profit making entities.Congress has the power too overturn this decision.The question is why they do not.

  • Anonymous

    Corporations……………should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people       Grover Cleveland

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t Scalia hate it that common sense gets in the way of his judgement? Gormless twit.

  • Anonymous

    A corporation can pay for breaking the law, with a fine, but it does not have anyone named for “loss of liberty” i.e. jail time. A corporation is a group of people, not an individual and certainly not a “person.” A person loses his or her freedom for a time (jail) when they are convicted of breaking a law. Even the SEC, the nanny-parent of corporations, can only fine them. How about they pick an officer to be designated person at risk of “loss of liberty”?

  • Anonymous

    The first corporations had limited charters. They could end at a designated time, or the charter could be revoked fpr wrongdoing. Now, registering as a corporation is enough, and the privilege–YES PRIVILEGE– seems to last forever.

  • Anonymous

    The Supreme Court is supposed to THINK, but instead, they memorize old case law and tack something onto the last item. Not all case law is good, and the direction of corporations as whole persons may have precedent in some district courts, but it is still a poor decision when it does not keep the boundaries around the charter to enter (collectively) into contracts, agreements etc.
    To extend that to full citizenship is like giving an extra fractional vote to someone. Every stakeholder in a corporation already has rights.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t say so. I kinda like Scalia. I don’t like Thomas though. Worst Supreme Court justice is Justice Taney. That is the idiot who penned the Dred Scott majority opinion. 

  • Anonymous

    You are really dumb. You do realize that it is CONGRESS who authors and passes bills into laws, right?

  • Anonymous

    “While corporations and human beings share many of the same rights under the law, they clearly are not bound equally to the same codes of good conduct, decency, and morality, and they are not held equally accountable for their sins. Indeed, it is truly ironic that the death penalty and hell are reserved only to natural persons.”
    Justice James Nelson (Montana Supreme Court) 

    Keep in mind THIS guy voted AGAINST his own state’s law that challenged the Citizen United’s ruling by the Supremes. The rationale used by the Supremes is vapid and incongruous.

  • http://PalinsDirtyLittleSecret.blogspot.com/ 2008CoupExposedClickHere4Proof

    Osama Obama Biden (Bi)n La(den)
    One coincidence? Two coincidences?
    NO COINCIDENCE, Do the math the odds are in the billions

    Unelected officials have taken over Washington and are orchestrating the daily news. 90% of the comments and replies you’re reading online come from an NSA software program spamming the internet. COMMENTS ARE CREATED BEFORE THE STORY IS REPORTED. They are designed to generate a response and will engage people in real time.

    The oldest, first, highest, best, and most popular rated comments are all propaganda. They are conducting Psy-ops (psychological operations) for domestic spying. They have 1000′s of handles and are determined to bury the truth or attack anyone leaking it.

    Our next election is shaping up to be as big of a sham as the last. Do you know why Sarah Palin’s bus tour was really canceled? Do you know why she stayed 30 miles away from the second debate and chose the death of Steve Jobs to announce that she’s not running? Know what leaked out? Sarah Palin and Cain aren’t in the race for the same reason, the truth leaked out. The biggest cover up is exposed at the link in my name.

  • Anonymous

    correct me if i’m wrong but that was essentially what they were saying in the case. 

  • Anonymous

    Don’t confuse teabaggers with facts or civics lessons about how government works, all they need to know is what Limbaugh and Fox tells them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IC7HRBJRXKA7IKTTZS5W3UIECQ Agent of Truth

    Scalia would defend such anti American rulings.  His right wing extremist mindset that is owned by corporate wealth was a big reason by dubya and his handlers and keepers wanted this guy on the Supreme Court.  Bush appointing Scalia was simply one more nail in the coffin of middle class Americans as the Bush administration feverishly worked hard to pimp the office of President as well as turn the US Congress into an auction house to the highest bidder.  This is the Republican way. 

  • Anonymous

    The system was already bad I just helped to make it worse, don’t blame me.

  • Mo Fokker

    A conservative activist court rendered that decision in favor of corporations because they believe “corporations are people too”.

    P.S.

    As the two-year anniversary of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling draws near, a majority of voters say they do not like the effect it’s having on American elections.
    According to a Pew Research Center poll, 54 percent of voters said they knew of the ontroversial 2010 decision that allowed corporations to spend unlimited amounts of money on campaigns through so-called Super PACs (political action committees). Of those who were familiar with the
    ruling, 65 percent said they think the effect on campaigns has been negative, and only 15 percent said the result has been positive. What’s more, the disapproval was bipartisan, with 60 percent of Republicans and 63 percent of Democrats condemning its effects.

  • http://www.madcharles.com/ MadCharles

    So the unions should be the only ones supplying the big  money, right ? Unions are corporations also. Sounds fair and balanced to me..

  • Anonymous

    Ah, misogyny and ignorance. Tea Party much?

  • Anonymous

     That’s why I want an Obama second term, to keep these thus out of power.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks to you today I learned the definition of the word gormless.  It’s a wonderful word that I guess is not used in the US much.  One dictionary I looked at had a picture of all of the members of the RNC to illustrate the definition.

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    That makes you dumber….Porkchop because the SCOTUS (with Kagan on board) is going to rule on the constitutionality of the “bill” partially authored by Kagan (a conflict of interest) and passed by a Democrat-controlled Congress with a payoff to Nebraska and by skeptical means.
    Other than that….your post is pointless and ignorant.

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    Who’s your civics tutor…..Ed Schultz?
    LMAO!!

  • Anonymous

    You are still a dumbass. You don’t know what CONGRESS does. What does congress do? Please answer that simple question.

  • Anonymous

    Kagan was not in congress….numbnuts! She could not author a bill even if she wanted to. maybe you should listen to what the conservative Justice said, dum dum.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/us/chief-justice-backs-peers-decision-to-hear-health-law-case.html?_r=2&src=tp

  • Mari Johnson

    Sorry, Judge Scalia,, your comment is totally tainted by your association with your family member lobbyist and in fact, you have not even followed the rules and provided a report on  her income when you are making decisions about stuff that affects her job.  Well, perhaps I am premature and you have already pledged to abstain from voting on that decision since it would so obviously be a conflict of interest for you.  Besides, just folow the law and report your wife’s income.  Otherwise you have not one smidgeon of moral authority and in fact, you flaunt the law you so brazenly brag to defend.

  • Anonymous

    I have to LMAO if I hear another conservative use another straw man defense.It’s the unions,no,it’s the liberal press ect…ad nauseum.I’d venture to say your entire exposure to the history of unions would fit in a thimble.If not for unions this country would not have had the degree of progress that built many of the cities and suburbs,conservatives actually reside in,with healthy water and correct sanitation.Those union jobs supplied money that was plowed back into the neighborhoods to form a higher standard of living.I lived in NC for a period of time and witnessed first hand how scabs operated in fear of companies for their jobs.Septic tanks of whole neighborhoods planted next to their drinking water wells.I’d give you a tutorial about coal miners unions,but I certain it would fly over your head Skippy.So just quit posting about something you have no fricking knowledge about,and go back for more indoctrination on Faux Views.Thats certainly more your speed.

  • BooBoo Bear

    A.S.K please take the time to read the following…
    http://www.schoolhouserock.tv/Bill.html

    It might help you..It was written for by Bill Frishberg back in 1975, and shown on Schoolhouse Rock if I remember correctly it was shown on ABC.

  • BooBoo Bear

    OK, Pablo following your logic Corporations have attained personhood.
    I’ll approve of that as long as Corporations are taxed just as if they were people too. Just think GE paying 40% taxes instead of a negative 3%.

  • Anonymous

    Quit while you’re behind dumbass, you look more ignorant with every post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    The Koch brothers openly bribe Justice Thomas by funneling money through his wife’s fake tea party org.

    Plus, he and Scalia have both attended Koch-brother funded retreats, another form of open bribery.

    This is why the country is going to rightwing hell in a breadbasket.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Rightwingers get their info/misinfo mostly from Fox News, that’s been proven.

    So perhaps if rightwingers started getting their “news” from a variety of sources, perhaps then you guys could start thinking independently.

    And someone pretending to be an Hispanic (last month pretending to be Black) should not be lecturing other people so sanctimoniously.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    He is an activist judge.

    He decided the recent gun control case based on European law.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Antonin Scalia is bought and paid for by your boss, the Koch Brothers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Pablo is paid to pretend he’s a minority. The opinions he expresses are not intended to be taken as factually accurate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    individuals in a corporation all have individual rights.

    The corporation as an entity controled by a board of directors is not “a person”.

    This is common sense to anyone who is not a lawyer, who are paid to slice and dice words until they are meaningless, and then reform them into rights not intended by the signers of the Constitution.

    Corporations are not even accountable to shareholders anymore, as shareholders as a group have no real power.

  • Pablo

    You need to stop pretending you know things, freak. Particularly about me.

    So, how young are the girls you’re paying to have sex with, Barry? Or are you more into the ladyboys?

  • Pablo

    KOCH!!!

    *drink*

  • Pablo

    No, they were talking about advertising.

  • Pablo

    No, not always. Presidents often submit legislation, like Obama’s jobs bill.

  • Pablo

    Nothing! I learned that from the President.

  • Pablo

    What’s your point?

    Barry, a corporation is usually not a person, it’s a group of people.

  • Pablo

    Which logic is that? Mine is that the First Amendment restrains the government from abridging free speech. So you didn’t get that from me.

  • Pablo

    Don’t you hate it that the Constitution gets in the way of your judgment? Mindless fool.

  • Pablo

    No, the Supreme Court is supposed to uphold the Constitution and apply it to the cases before them.

  • Pablo

    What are corporations? Machines? Plants? Aliens? Fish?

    No, they’re stockholders, officers, directors and employees. Which are what? People.

    This really isn’t complicated.

  • Pablo

    None of this blather changes the fact that unions are corporations. You’ve only told us that you like them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    I’ll tell you this much.

    They aren’t Hispanic.

    And neither are you, gutter-troll.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    The Koch Brothers are buying up the Supreme Court.

    Have another cerveza, amiga.

    (as if you need encouragement)

  • Anonymous

    Who already have one vote.

  • Anonymous

    Last week he said that he was an ex-lesbian. He apparently has a lot of identity issues.

  • Anonymous

    The courts did not create the concept of corporate personhood, Congress and the state legislatures did.  The Supreme Court merely carried the law to its logical conclusion, that if a corporation is a person it has the rights and obligations of a human person.  Unfortunately, a law need not in any way reflect reality.  Congress can pass a law that says Pi, which is the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its circumference and a number that can be calculated to infinity without ever repeating a sequence of numbers, will henceforth be 22/7.  It will not change the reality of PI, but the courts will have to enforce it.

  • Pablo

    What is your basis for this claim that I’m pretending to be Hispanic, Barry? And do you think about it when you’re screwing 8 year olds?

  • Pablo

    Last week he said that he was an ex-lesbian.

    As much as you’re a former Republican, genius. What I said was “He’s an ex-GOP’er like I’m an ex-lesbian.” About you, naturally. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-perry-suggests-turkey-should-be-kicked-out-of-nato-calls-leaders-islamic-terrorists/#comment-413321294

    I realize that you’re not very bright, and I suspect you’re the only one that didn’t get it.

  • Pablo

    Right. But this case isn’t about voting.

  • Anonymous

    I think you are joking but I’ll throw in that Congress has unofficially abrogated their duties in many important situations. My take is that lobbyists actually do the writing, staffers do the actual reading, and brief their bosses on content. The voting, methinks, is actually determined by past deals with Reid and Boehner. By hook or crook, the Executive branch seems to be making all the calls, be it declaring war or
    deciding who gets what money. 

  • Pablo

    His wife’s fake tea party org, Barry? Do tell.

  • Anonymous

    Just don’t be gormless when writing to the Factor.

  • Anonymous

    Tell us the part about how the unions built Detroit.

  • Anonymous

    Yep, only Congress can fix this super-pac crap. Is there a congressperson with enough testosterone or estrogen to step up and lead the way? I doubt it. With term limits at least we’d get some turnover of personnel, and possibly before they get compromised.

  • http://www.madcharles.com/ MadCharles

    I was the EXVP of the APWU for 106 post offices. I know the game. I’d bet you weren’t even a shop steward.

  • Anonymous

    Just happened to see the Autoworkers Union still operating in Detroit,and Oh yea,GM has regained the Top Ranking in auto production.Of course,if the country would have entertained the conservative viewpoint,America would have 1 car company(Ford) still operating,and another few million unemployed.This would have been the course if SLICK “THE VULTURE CAPITALIST” had his say so.Conservatives hate unions and hate the middle class and that won’t change with smart ass rhetoric.Yawn…….

  • Anonymous

    I stand in honor of the VP.Then you’re also aware of how the post offices had their pension program FIXED by our honorable conservatives in Congress.It’s nothing but hate brother,always more of the same.Yawn….

  • Anonymous

    in saying that freedom of speech is having the ability to spend money in unlimited amounts, yes they are equating freedom of speech to spending money. 

  • Anonymous

    corporations are made up of people a corporation itself is not a person. That’s like saying the United States is a person. The logic doesn’t follow. 

  • http://www.madcharles.com/ MadCharles

    I’ve been well schooled on all three sides. Diversity has a dark side and they all worked to loot themselves. I knew it when they were a quarter billion in the red. Today it’s billions thanks to all sides.

  • Pablo

    Running all the ads you want, whenever you want to run them is freedom of speech. The amounts spent to do that are irrelevant.

  • Pablo

    We wouldn’t have Honda or BMW or Toyota or Subaru or Mercedes? And Ford and Chrysler wouldn’t have reorganized in bankruptcy and continued making cars? Or their assets wouldn’t have been purchased by others and put to work?

  • Anonymous

    Wake up Mr. van Winkle! 

    You are thinking St Clair Shores and I’m talking Detroit. Detroit of the unemployment, crime, grime, and slime. This Detroit: 
    Dwayne pimps 3 ho’s. If the price is $85 per trick, how many tricks per day must each ho turn to support Dwayne’s $800 per day Crack habit? 

  • Anonymous

    “ The Court overruled Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce, which had previously held that a Michigan campaign finance act that prohibited corporations from using treasury money to support or oppose candidates in elections did not violate the First and Fourteenth Amendments.”" The Court also overruled the part of McConnell v. Federal Election Commission that upheld BCRA’s extension of the Federal Election Campaign Act’s restrictions on independent corporate expenditures to include “electioneering communications”. This effectively ended restriction on the amount corporations could expend for “electioneering communications”.”

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