Well, I guess this leaves only one question – on the next segment of the highly rated, highly viewed “Countdown with Keith (I’m a pompous, arrogant, talentless clod) Olberdork” show, will Tony Blair be Keith’s worse, worser, or worsest?

I respect Blair so much. A true man of principle. I am going to buy his book today.

Tony Blair gets it .

Blair was a political paradox, conservative on some issues, liberal on others, and usually willing to move to the center to try to gain common ground. I think that’s why he was able to work well with both Clinton and Bush, who were also both neither very conservative or very liberal. It would have been interesting to see what kind of relationship he would have had with someone from the very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very far, far, far, far, far left like Obama.

Now, we remember why Amanpour got this job. Questions no one ask would ask, answers no one else would be able to elicit. Excellent, excellent interview. I dare say the highpoint in American tele journalism for the week just started.

What’s really exciting is that the BBC News/BBC World connection started today. This means Amanpour is going out to an enormous worldwide – a new face to news not only in America and the English-speaking world, but throughout the entire world. An almost inconceivable television market ….

Patrick Henry said:
I respect Blair so much. A true man of principle. I am going to buy his book today.

I think Blair is a wise policy maker, but I don’t think I’d stretch the principled part too taut. After all, Blair claims to be a devout Roman Catholic now, following in the practice of his spouse and children, but given British political realities, his conversion was long delayed until he left public office in Britain. I should have thought the principled thing to do would have been to disavow his C of E membership and confirm his deeply held faith long ago.

Of course, I realize that by “principle” you mean the principle of setting in W’s lap and being petted and given the odd treat from time-to-time.

Andy Lamb said:
Blair was a political paradox, conservative on some issues, liberal on others, and usually willing to move to the center to try to gain common ground. I think that’s why he was able to work well with both Clinton and Bush, who were also both neither very conservative or very liberal. It would have been interesting to see what kind of relationship he would have had with someone from the very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very far, far, far, far, far left like Obama.

I agree that this was the key to his political success, even if it did make him change his spots rather too often. I disagree that President Obama is less conservative than the former PM. In fact, I think President Obama has staked out a centrist position that places him to the right of W and Blair. Indeed, to the right of Raygun.

A pair of MUSLIM TERRORISTS pull off a successful dry run, are detained after their success practice run, and released……and no one seems to care.
We are doomed!!!!

dummy123 said:
A pair of MUSLIM TERRORISTS pull off a successful dry run, are detained after their success practice run, and released……and no one seems to care.We are doomed!!!!

Thank you, Chicken Little.

Radical Islam . Defeat it , or be defeated by it . Tony is correct .

“But what I understood less clearly at that time was how deep this ideological movement is — this is actually more like the phenomenon of revolutionary communism… this is a generational-long struggle” Tony Blair

Exactly right. Moreover, like communism, Islamism enjoys the protection and support of its fellow-travelers in the West, the Left. An acute illustration of this is the controversy over the Ground Zero mosque, were the Left serves as an ally and protector for radical Islam. Both must be destroyed.

Defeat ebay21 or be defeated by it .

Christiane doing interview favors for her old friends on the world stage so they can sell books is not going to help the ratings of This Week. It has become 2 shows, the first half being Christine’s vanity project and the more traditional second half with the round table. Neither of these halves seem connected anymore.

Bring back Jake!

Tony Blair is one of the most tragic political figures of our age. He was certainly a capable and effective PM when it comes to British domestic politics, but he will be remembered and forever condemned for his giving the OK to Bush’s disastrous decision to get Saddam Hussein, even though Blair, like Bush and Cheney, really knew that Hussein didn’t have any so-called WMD’s. As happened the other day at a public event, Blair will forever be shunned and attacked when he makes these appearances, I certainly have no respect for him as he was the one person who could have prevented our immoral and unsuccessful Iraq misadventure. Justice and karma will be done for Blair. just as Bush and Cheney will continue to be condemned by all civilized people.

And history will not record that British intelligence believed that Iraq had WMDs, and that in America, the Democrats voted for the war resolution. Leave those embarrassing points out and just blame Bush and Blair.

ganymede said:
Justice and karma will be done for Blair. just as Bush and Cheney will continue to be condemned by all civilized people.

Pompous much?

Azarkhan said:
Pompous much?

People like Ganymede have no sense of history whatsoever…If they did, they would be also have to condemn FDR/Truman?Johnson etc….

Gany & friends here are short term thinkers, idealogues and have no ability to see the big picture or any farther ahead than the next election cycle.

Let’s have another argument about Bush and the Iraq War.

The internet doesn’t have enough of them.

Bush is a badass I love how he bravely sent thousands of our troops to their deaths. I love how he bravely sent his daughters to war b/c he believed in the war so much. I love how Bush bravely served the Vietnam War in his reserved unit who never was deployed. Bush you are my hero and now I know why so many conservatives look up to you. You sure were a better choice than John McCain (back in 2000) who served in the Vietnam War and whose sons continue to fight in the Iraq and Afghanistan war.

Clinton was a badass, too. Dodged the draft and sent troops into Somalia.

During WWII Japan had suicide bombers that believed in the Emperor. When the Emporer told them to stop they did.

Today we have Muslim suicide bombers and there is NOT just ONE person that can tell them to stop.
That is why this is an ENDLESS war. We must KILL everyone that believes it is okay to put bombs on women and children to kill woment and children.

Poor Christiane, you doesn’t get it and never will. She thinks OUR foreign policy is the problem. She and people like RRK, BFD and ganymead are the problem.

Poor Christiane, you don’t get it and never will. She thinks OUR foreign policy is the problem. She and people like RRK, BFD and ganymead are the problem.

Emperor ………….. for the spelling police….

Blair gets it. Islam, the most dangerous thing on earth.

The Real Royal King said:
I think Blair is a wise policy maker, but I don’t think I’d stretch the principled part too taut. After all, Blair claims to be a devout Roman Catholic now, following in the practice of his spouse and children, but given British political realities, his conversion was long delayed until he left public office in Britain. I should have thought the principled thing to do would have been to disavow his C of E membership and confirm his deeply held faith long ago.

Of course, I realize that by “principle” you mean the principle of setting in W’s lap and being petted and given the odd treat from time-to-time.

Why are we so hung up on religion? That is obscuring our vision and we really are just too far advanced of a society to be still so superstitious. Religion is part of the reason why we are fighting so much. I personally was born into an ultra religious family and it was very confusing even though I had day and night access to religious illumination and private religious schools to boot. What I learned first hand is that people are not perfect and make mistakes. Despite all the pretense religion is a judge-mental institution so that many are disillusioned, angry and flung out to become the antithesis of the doctrines that they were taught. In many cases anti-religion or anti-Christ etc. Our religions in all actuality create evil faster than it can make a difference. Just look around at the world today for your example. The first defense would be to say that it is written that in the last days the world will become this way but that fails to address the fact that the last days of many societies has proven to end in just such a way due to the chaos created by a failed social system. That is a learned prophecy and not an actual supernatural one. Study a thousand years of statistics and I’ll bet you can be a prophet too. We need to deal with reality and not huddle in denial waiting for a bailout. I love tradition and I love many of the nuances that have enriched my life from the various religions. Nearly all of them have contributed wonderful things but can we take a step back, see the smoke and realize the forest is on fire. Can I get a witness?

i think it was blair’s love affair with clinton that was forever damaged by bubba’s lie about lewinsky which forced him to be the submissive bitch to bush in going into the war in iraq
it’s like when your girlfriend brakes up with you and goes out with a total asshole just to make you jealous
on another note, i don’t understand how if you believe in someones right to religion and build a muslim center that makes you an ally and protector of radical islam

ijtdg
i’m glad you noted mccain in 2000 as opposed to the other mccain that ran in 2010

I think Blair is largely correct about radical Islamacists and they threat they pose to the world, which makes it even queerer that he sould have become the world’s chief proponent and cheerleader of the Iraq Invasion and Occupation. Islamic practice in Iraq was far from radical, and Iraq did not sender bombers to the US for 9/11 or to Britain for the transit attack. You’d think Blair’s vision may have led him to a real threat, and he, in turn, might have led w and Dick, Donnie and Condi to our real enemy. Of course what actually happened was W and Dick and Donnie and Condi wanted to Invade and Occupy Iraq due to some deep psychological trauma from which they suffered, and Blair was their enabler.

Islamic ideology may be abhorrent to our Christian views but, that does not give the U.S, or the UK the right to attack a foreign, sovereign country based on supposition, and innuendo. Those directly responsible for the attack died in the act. The conspirators should have been weeded out and made to account for their wrongs.
What you don’t do is manufacture evidence putting an independent nation at peril, and in the process get American soldiers killed for a war based on lies!! Mr.Blair can manufacture all the justification he can spin but, the truth of the matter is, lives were lost based on corrupt evidence. Evidence that was found to corrupt prior to the start of the Iraq war. That was fact then, and it remains fact to this day.

A courageous, honest commentary from Tony Blair. One thing is sure: you won’t hear this kind of frank talk from Barack Obama.

If he thinks Britain is too dumb to comprehend it, wait’ll he sees the book hit Murcuhns. Murcuhns bring “dirt-dumb” down to a new level. Uneducated. Unread. Unculturted. Uncaring. Unaware. Spinning ever downward while drowning in stupidity. Unhappy vultures tearing at a carcass. And damed proud of it. Wiederbetaetigung!!

It’s Sunday. As you can see, Right-wing hatred & ignorance NERVER take a day off. Bet some of these unwashed little cretins spent some time with Geesussah today. Using religion as a drunk uses a lamppost.
While sipping some Jesus Juice. Sitting in the back of the church, flipping thru back issues of Martha Stewart Living, while engaged in heavy breathing & light moaning. Ummm. “Bush in 2012!!”

The Real Royal King said:
Of course, I realize that by “principle” you mean the principle of setting in W’s lap and being petted and given the odd treat from time-to-time.

No, king, by “principle” I mean doing the difficult things that need to be done even though their might be no personal gain or even personal disadvantage by doing so.
I disagree with you on another issue as well, I say bring back Tapper.

Nachi said:
t’s Sunday. As you can see, Right-wing hatred & ignorance NERVER take a day off. Bet some of these unwashed little cretins spent some time with Geesussah today. Using religion as a drunk uses a lamppost.
While sipping some Jesus Juice. Sitting in the back of the church, flipping thru back issues of Martha Stewart Living, while engaged in heavy breathing & light moaning. Ummm. “Bush in 2012!!”

I could eat a bowl of Alpha Bits and crap out a better post than that.

Nachi said:
Using religion as a drunk uses a lamppost.

We use leftists the same way.

…That’s the reason why the question of whether America is “Islamophobic” – now bandied about so casually, as though opposition to the mosque has revealed a nasty strain in the American psyche, akin to the terrible racism or anti-Semitism that once ran wild – is so deeply offensive. This loathsome term is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliche conceived in the bowels of Muslim think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics.
Muslims are everywhere in this country, doing practically everything. There are Muslim doctors, lawyers and businessmen – like Park51 developer Sharif El-Gamal, who went from waiting tables just a few years ago to being a multimillionaire. There are Muslim soldiers and CIA agents.

Could this be possible if America were Islamophobic?

Abdur-Rahman Muhammad

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/09/05/2010-09-05_whether_or_not_ground_zero_mosque_is_built_us_muslims_have_access_to_the_america.html#ixzz0ygjY4wdZ

“…its narrative about Islam stretches far further than we think into even parts of mainstream opinion who abhor the extremism, but sort of buy some of the rhetoric that goes with it.”

Sounds like Blair was talking about Amanpour to me.

Nachi said:
It’s Sunday. As you can see, Right-wing hatred & ignorance NERVER take a day off. Bet some of these unwashed little cretins spent some time with Geesussah today. Using religion as a drunk uses a lamppost.While sipping some Jesus Juice. Sitting in the back of the church, flipping thru back issues of Martha Stewart Living, while engaged in heavy breathing & light moaning. Ummm. “Bush in 2012!!”

Interesting how this poster points out hatred and ignorance in others with his own hatred and ignorance.

Sound a lot like the Real Racist King. Could it be another cover name?

Nachi said:
It’s Sunday. As you can see, Right-wing hatred & ignorance NERVER take a day off. Bet some of these unwashed little cretins spent some time with Geesussah today. Using religion as a drunk uses a lamppost.While sipping some Jesus Juice. Sitting in the back of the church, flipping thru back issues of Martha Stewart Living, while engaged in heavy breathing & light moaning. Ummm. “Bush in 2012!!”

Too bad Bush can’t run again, huh? He’s got Obama by 10 points right now in O-fucking-HIO..haaaaaa!!!! OHIO!!!

Patrick Henry said:
I say bring back Tapper.

He made you feel comfortable with your parochialism, narrow-mindedness and shallowness, I take it.

Patrick Henry said:
No, king, by “principle” I mean doing the difficult things that need to be done even though their might be no personal gain or even personal disadvantage by doing so.

Yes, given the nature of British society and politics, remaining C of E while he was in office was risky, wasn’t it?

The Real Royal King said:
He made you feel comfortable with your parochialism, narrow-mindedness and shallowness, I take it.

No, he is just a much better host and his interviews are much better.

The Real Royal King said:
Yes, given the nature of British society and politics, remaining C of E while he was in office was risky, wasn’t it?

He is much better thought of in the U.S. than he is in the U.K. He paid a price that those less principled, such as you, would not have.

Indeed, they were parochial, narow-minded and shallow.

Why are you so afraid of the US taking its place in a WORLD of ideas? Are you afraid we can’t compete? I have to disagree, I not only love America and things American, but I believe we have a wonderfully strong culture.

Patrick Henry said:
He is much better thought of in the U.S. than he is in the U.K. He paid a price that those less principled, such as you, would not have.

I’m not surprised that the people who know him best like him least. The French think Jerry Lewis is a comic genius. Americans know better.

i loved that hbo movie about him and clinton…in one of the scenes, it might have been a un sumit, another leader was giving blair a bad time for sticking up for clinton after the lewinsky thing broke and asks him how how many centimeters is 4 inches

Where is the Democrat’s equivalent of Tony Blair. I would vote for him.

Prime Minister Blair and President Bush were fantastic leaders while in place. I would vote them back in were in a heart beat. Just think of what has taken place since the change by their replacements ! The only thing I would change would be for Saddam to have been left in power. He was doing a great job for us !

Morgan said:
Where is the Democrat’s equivalent of Tony Blair. I would vote for him.

Joe Liebermann.

Where’s Zell Miller when you need him?

Re >Morgan said: Where is the Democrat’s equivalent of Tony Blair. I would vote for him.

RRK Replied: >Joe Liebermann.

Close—but no cigar.

This ideological moement we see to day in Islam can not coxist in a liberal democracy with womens rights our liberal views on sex and our many different religons.Look at whats going on in Europe.In France there are Muslim communites demanding to be left alone and governd by Islamic law .In England Musslim rapper Sheik Terra calls for the murder of non Muslims with Koran in one hand and pistol in the other.A vido of British engineer Kenneth Bigley beheading in Iraq went to the internet,then frome I-phone to I-phone bringing a smile frome one yong British Muslim,who says he knows who the real killers are”they are not Muslims they are Jews.”Now Jeremy Clarkson tv host of BBC Top Gear has come under fier from Muslims .Clarkson claimed a woman in a burka”fell head over heels”in front of his taxi in London and revealed her”red G-string and stockings”.Anjem Choudhay,Muslim cleric”shariah law may come through a holy war that will see rivers of blood on the streets.Clarkson has brought this day closer.” Read more http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/146352/TOP-GEAR-BURKA-GAFFE/ http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/147118/Anjem-Choudhary-dose-an-Enoch-Powell-rivers-of-...

Patrick Henry said:
I respect Blair so much. A true man of principle. I am going to buy his book today.

Are we talking about the same Tony Blair? I think Mr. Blair is a self-serving megalomaniac–sort of like the current occupant of the White House–he has screwed the people of the UK up so badly with his dalliances with the European Union that England has not only lost most of its sovereignty, but is a textbook example of a “nanny state.”

Pablo said:
Where’s Zell Miller when you need him?

Excellent question. We could use a few more Democrats like Mr. Miller.

Addendum: Giving credit where it is due, Mr. Blair’s point that it would require a generation for an ideology to die out…BUT, do we have that much time before some terrorist gets their hands on a nuclear device and initiates it in a US city? I tend to think not. So, what is the answer to preserving the US culture and Constitutional government from the ideals held in the minds of the islamic zealots?

When one is confronted with a poisonous snake, or a predator beast, or a person intent on bringing them harm, the instinct is the same: SURVIVE! Do ANYTHING to survive.

If the initial threat is evaded, one begins to operate on an amended set of data in order to avoid being subjected to the threat in the future. If the threat were a predator beast or poisonous snake, one could ensure their probability of avoiding the attendant harms by not venturing into those territories, but in the case of the islamo-terrorists (or ANY terrorist or human predator, for that matter), the entire world is their territory, and since we (with the possible exception of a few who, from time to time, appear on this site) do not have the luxury of traveling to an alternate planet, we are left with the alternative of eliminating the threat before it eliminates us.

Given a choice of whom I prefer to survive–the islamo-terrorists who would have us all living under their rule–or myself, I would invariably choose ME. But, then, maybe I’m being a bit too selfish.

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pyrope said:
Excellent question. We could use a few more Democrats like Mr. Miller.

You may have him. No charge, but no return.

The Real Royal King said:
In fact, I think President Obama has staked out a centrist position that places him to the right of W and Blair. Indeed, to the right of Raygun.

Socialized Health Care.
Government Czars
Abortion Advocate
Anti Walstreet
Pro Environmentalist buy Gores Lines hook line and sinker.
Anti Small Business (More Taxing the Midclass)
Bigger Government
Multiple Union Bailouts and Buy ins…
Just to name a few…

Where do you see this being centric?

Sorry but, I think you need a seeing eye dog.

Nachi said:
It’s Sunday. As you can see, Right-wing hatred & ignorance NERVER take a day off. Bet some of these unwashed little cretins spent some time with Geesussah today. Using religion as a drunk uses a lamppost.
While sipping some Jesus Juice. Sitting in the back of the church, flipping thru back issues of Martha Stewart Living, while engaged in heavy breathing & light moaning. Ummm. “Bush in 2012!!”

Nachi, you are so far off the bar, that you are on the street drinking your own miserable ramblings.
You are the drunk, so full of yourself, and your own hate filled rhetoric.
Stop being so miserable and get on with your life.

But I’m glad you agree Bush should run in 2012, it’s the first smart thing you posted. Kudos.

BalanceOfPower said:
Why are we so hung up on religion? That is obscuring our vision and we really are just too far advanced of a society to be still so superstitious.

Religion has more to do with absolute truths, and moral order than superstitions.
You are confusing superstition with spiritual growth, mans quest for meaning.
The one who is blind is the one who says, he knows it all.

BalanceOfPower said:
Religion is part of the reason why we are fighting so much.

No, we fight because we are selfish beings, period. Anything can be used as a catalyst to get what we want. Religion is just a trump card for those vying for power, just as much as any organization where there are absolute truths or in some brainwashed ideology. The corrupt flock to any group to indoctrinate them to their views, this is called propaganda and just about anyone who has wanted power has used it including the largest Atheist Governing Countries; these being the former Soviet Union, and the now North Korea and China.
A true faith doesn’t operate on propaganda, but lifestyle. It operates on the ideology of placing others before yourself, and following absolute truths that bring about a balanced moral agenda in a persons life. It operates on humility and charity. It only motivates people to want to change their life to find inner peace.

BalanceOfPower said:I personally was born into an ultra religious family and it was very confusing even though I had day and night access to religious illumination and private religious schools to boot.

You obviously didn’t learn much, or rather chose to rebel and found your personal ideology more appealing. Which is fine, but don’t put all things that are religious or faith based thought in your category as dismissible.

BalanceOfPower said:
What I learned first hand is that people are not perfect and make mistakes.

Yes they do, even religious people. The problem is when religious people or people of faith make a mistake, they usually violate an absolute truth. Those who are not religious or faith based find an opportunity to remind and demean them as hypocrites, when they themselves have likely stepped over worse lines than the other, but since they have no conviction about it, they rail on the ones who do. In a sense, there is no forgiveness for those who flaunt their own self-righteous behaviors.

BalanceOfPower said:
Despite all the pretense religion is a judge-mental institution so that many are disillusioned, angry and flung out to become the antithesis of the doctrines that they were taught.

Where-upon I can agree that “religion” in itself can be a judge-mental institution, that is not the case for most Faith based churches. On the contrary in the Western Religion it is “Judge Not, Lest Ye be Judged.”
As far as those that choose Atheism, that is their choice, they then form their own doctrine, contrary to those who are Faith based and that is scary considering, that there can be no true accountability, cause they have replaced ultimate truths, with their own version of a truth.

BalanceOfPower said:
In many cases anti-religion or anti-Christ etc. Our religions in all actuality create evil faster than it can make a difference.

In the case of “Religion” itself, this can be so, however with Faith based congregations that couldn’t be further from the truth.

Those are taught to respect and adhere to the laws of a Country.
They are encouraged to do charitable acts, not to self gratify , but to glorify God.
Love others regardless of their disposition in life.
Just to mention a few…

BalanceOfPower said:
The first defense would be to say that it is written that in the last days the world will become this way but that fails to address the fact that the last days of many societies has proven to end in just such a way due to the chaos created by a failed social system

The failure is not in a Faith based group, it is in people’s selfish nature.
As far as the chaos, this is caused by people not learning from history and repeating the same mistakes usually for the sake of self-gratification, while masking it as a unification of new thinking.

BalanceOfPower said:
We need to deal with reality and not huddle in denial waiting for a bailout.

Those who have faith, usually hold on to hope much longer than those who just have hope or an idea.
Deal with reality, but don’t forget who you are, or where you have been. Most who are religious, or faith based, don’t lose touch with reality, but try to merge the reality with ultimate truths coupled with history lessons learned that try to prevent disaster, and selfish thinking.

BalanceOfPower said:
I love tradition and I love many of the nuances that have enriched my life from the various religions. Nearly all of them have contributed wonderful things but can we take a step back, see the smoke and realize the forest is on fire. Can I get a witness?

Your love for tradition, and nuance only serves as you say to “enrich your life”. Tradition and nuance, only serve to show you an allegory to stroke your own ego. True religion, true faith, should create more, a desire to serve, and live a better life, to put others first, not to judge but to encourage.
Your ideology is that these things that religion or a Faith based organization has created is great, as long as it does not violate your own personal way of thinking. That in itself is useless.
It should make you want to be a better person, to stand up for the religion or faith that has taught you ultimate truths that have not just benefited “You, as an individual” but “Any” that have found freedom and hope outside of themselves.

Your, Witness.