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Ann Coulter Dismisses Rumored Palin/Bachmann Tension As Liberal Sexism

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The media treatment of Rep. Michele Bachmann‘s several gaffes this week have raised eyebrows on the right from those that have followed President Barack Obama‘s supposed gaffes. Among them in particular is Sean Hannity, who put together a montage of Obama gaffes in preparation for his guest, Ann Coulter, tonight. Coulter argued there was a double standard for conservatives, and blamed “sexism” on the left for rumors that Rep. Bachmann and Sarah Palin are feuding.

“Let’s hear what she said and reason backwards,” Coulter explained the logic of liberal commentators trying to evaluate Rep. Bachmann’s statements. The recent mini-controversy involving the hometowns of John Wayne and John Wayne Gacy were, according to Coulter, a “perfect example of the elitism or illiteracy of the left,” as in small towns, she explained, even the most tenuous link to a famous person is celebrated. “I went to Joe McCarthy‘s birthplace in Appleton, Wisconsin,” she narrated, where she found “they have a whole museum to Harry Houdini, even though he barely lived there.” That phenomenon, she argued, was also present in Iowa.

Coulter also addressed rumors that Rep. Bachmann and Palin didn’t get along– “they like one another!” These she attributed to sexism: “liberals are just so shocked that there are so many conservative women politicians,” she argued, and assume “there are two girls in the race; they must hate each other.” Despite her disagreements with the left, Coulter went as far as to compliment the President today as “articulate” and “bright, but even articulate bring people are going to stumble now and then.” This in response to several clips of President Obama misspeaking that Hannity compiled, which Coulter had no problem with. Her problem, she explained, was with the double-standard. “It’s only in the case of conservatives where this is taken as a reading as to what their intelligence is.”

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  • darladoon

    has anne coulter said anything worthwhile in her entire life?

    i have yet to hear anything substantive from her, ever. EVER.

    it’s all complete bullsh*t. all of it.

  • darladoon

    and women have ALWAYS been pitted against one another.

    no matter what the arena.

    it’s not “liberal sexism”

    there’s no such thing as liberal sexism.

    it’s just another made-up coulter term, with no basis in fact.

  • darladoon

    and about 4 inches from this post is another post wherein bristol palin says

    “bachmann totally stole my mom’s look”

    how’s that for “liberal” sexism (coming from a palin’s mouth)?

  • azgrandma

    Oh good old crybaby hannity schmannity! Always makes my day when I get to see him here because I certainly would not waste electricity turning the tv on to see him. And yes hannity why don’t you address the dimwitted bristol for flappin her pie hole about some stupid worthless crap. First bristol is complaining that her virginity was stolen and then her moms looks were stolen. What a bunch of morons.

  • darladoon

    azgrandma said:
    Oh good old crybaby hannity schmannity! Always makes my day when I get to see him here because I certainly would not waste electricity turning the tv on to see him. And yes hannity why don’t you address the dimwitted bristol for flappin her pie hole about some stupid worthless crap. First bristol is complaining that her virginity was stolen and then her moms looks were stolen. What a bunch of morons.

    they are masters at playing the victim. even when they’re winning (and i when i
    say “winning” i mean “raping the planet”), they still find a way to play the victim.

  • Cecelia

    It wasn’t too long ago that the media meme was that Christine O’Donnell and Bachmann were feuding.

    With men it’s the competitive spirit, with women it’s always some sort of cat fight bull shit.

  • seek

    darladoon said:
    and women have ALWAYS been pitted against one another.

    no matter what the arena.

    it’s not “liberal sexism”

    there’s no such thing as liberal sexism.

    it’s just another made-up coulter term, with no basis in fact.

    and I call b.s. on your fact finding mission.
    Have you heard NOW coming out in defence of Palin or Bachmann? No – there is your liberal sexism plain as the nose on your face.

  • seek

    darladoon said:
    and about 4 inches from this post is another post wherein bristol palin says

    “bachmann totally stole my mom’s look”

    how’s that for “liberal” sexism (coming from a palin’s mouth)?

    I call b.s. on that whole story from an unknown with no record of the interchange – just some doofus’s words.
    Quit believing every bad thing you ever hear about the right – start using your head instead of your mouth.

  • darladoon

    Cecelia said:
    It wasn’t too long ago that the media meme was that Christine O’Donnell and Bachmann were feuding.

    With men it’s the competitive spirit, with women it’s always some sort of cat fight bull shit.

    which, in itself, disproves the existence of any specific strain of “liberal” sexism

    since feminism always was an inherently liberal pursuit, why would a liberal media
    push an anti-feminist meme?

    and this disproves coulter’s other theory, that the media who are pushing this meme
    are liberal.

  • seek

    darladoon said:
    they are masters at playing the victim. even when they’re winning (and i when i
    say “winning” i mean “raping the planet”), they still find a way to play the victim.

    Left wingers find an excuse for everything don’t they? Ever thought just to change the names to some lefty you totally think is cool and see how it would feel?
    No – cause you’ve got nothing lady – except your distorted, biased, ridiculously small minded view and you’re quite proud to trade on it.

    Well, you don’t sound like much of a deep thinker, although you were sure the Beck made it up! You’d believe anything if it’s negative against a republican.

  • darladoon

    seek said:
    and I call b.s. on your fact finding mission.
    Have you heard NOW coming out in defence of Palin or Bachmann? No – there is your liberal sexism plain as the nose on your face.

    so NOW not coming to the defence of palin is an example of their liberal sexism?

    riiiiiight.

    NOW’s role is not necessarily to come to the defence of women just because they’re women.

    and i’m not sure why two multi-millionaire white politicians, who btw, are staunchly pro-life, need
    defence on behalf of NOW because the media is pushing a pointless story.

  • Cecelia

    darladoon said:
    and this disproves coulter’s other theory, that the media who are pushing this meme
    are liberal.

    I don’t know how anything that I said “disproves” Coulter’s words, however it’s my opinion that sexism is sexism, no matter where it’s coming from.

  • darladoon

    seek said:
    Left wingers find an excuse for everything don’t they? Ever thought just to change the names to some lefty you totally think is cool and see how it would feel?
    No – cause you’ve got nothing lady – except your distorted, biased, ridiculously small minded view and you’re quite proud to trade on it.

    Well, you don’t sound like much of a deep thinker, although you were sure the Beck made it up! You’d believe anything if it’s negative against a republican.

    i fail to detect an argument here. but i do detect a whole lot of alcoholic rage.

  • darladoon

    Cecelia said:
    I don’t know how anything that I said “disproves” Coulter’s words, however it’s my opinion that sexism is sexism, no matter where it’s coming from.

    i agree.

    but why would a liberal media push an anti-feminist meme?

    can you answer that?

  • cjd ohio 1

    fe

    darladoon said:
    so NOW not coming to the defence of palin is an example of their liberal sexism? riiiiiight. NOW’s role is not necessarily to come to the defence of women just because they’re women. and i’m not sure why two multi-millionaire white politicians, who btw, are staunchly pro-life, needdefence on behalf of NOW because the media is pushing a pointless story.

    true, only to defend liberal woman

  • Cecelia

    darladoon said:
    NOW’s role is not necessarily to come to the defence of women just because they’re women.

    and i’m not sure why two multi-millionaire white politicians, who btw, are staunchly pro-life, need
    defence on behalf of NOW because the media is pushing a pointless story.

    Actually, NOW has come to Palin’s defense in the past.

    They were quite eloquent in rightly condemning the puerile and sexist hatchet job that Vanity Fair did on Palin a year or so ago.

  • Cecelia

    darladoon said:
    i agree.

    but why would a liberal media push an anti-feminist meme?

    can you answer that?

    Because it makes good copy.

  • cjd ohio 1

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    fe true, only to defend liberal woman

    mostly

  • darladoon

    a truly liberal media would most likely treat both palin and bachmann with the same
    respect that they treat male politicians.

    conservatives hate women (see: taking away women’s rights across the country)

  • Ramrants

    President Barack Obama’s supposed gaffes.______________________________________________________

    yeah, President Perfect never makes a gaffe. Seriously? Just last week, he couldn’t remember the name of the soldier he gave a Medal of Honor to. He’s only given out like 2, 3 at most. How hard is it to remember a soldier who received the highest honor the government gives name? I’m embarrassed for him.

    And you wonder why people say the media is biased. The media is a joke and becoming more and more irrelevant.

  • darladoon

    Cecelia said:
    Because it makes good copy.

    that’s the wrong answer

  • cjd ohio 1

    darladoon said:
    a truly liberal media would most likely treat both palin and bachmann with the samerespect that they treat male politicians. conservatives hate women (see: taking away women’s rights across the country)

    what?

  • darladoon

    Cecelia said:
    Actually, NOW has come to Palin’s defense in the past.

    They were quite eloquent in rightly condemning the puerile and sexist hatchet job that Vanity Fair did on Palin a year or so ago.

    is something necessarily sexist because it’s critical of a woman?

    can you give a clear answer to that?

    NOW, btw, is a conservative pseudo-feminist organization.

  • darladoon

    NOW, for example, is very much against, say, female sex workers.

  • Cecelia

    darladoon said:
    that’s the wrong answer

    Whatevah…

  • Ramrants

    darladoon said:
    so NOW not coming to the defence of palin is an example of their liberal sexism?

    riiiiiight.

    NOW’s role is not necessarily to come to the defence of women just because they’re women.

    and i’m not sure why two multi-millionaire white politicians, who btw, are staunchly pro-life, need
    defence on behalf of NOW because the media is pushing a pointless story.

    So is NOW the National Organization of Women or the National Organization of Women who have abortions? What does being pro life have to do with defending women against sexism. If they are pro life, then they deserve all the sexist remarks made towards them?

  • darladoon

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    fe

    true, only to defend liberal woman

    some liberal women do sex work.

    NOW would not come to their defence.

    for instance, the first sex worker union is from san francisco.

    NOW did not stand up for them.

  • darladoon

    Ramrants said:
    So is NOW the National Organization of Women or the National Organization of Women who have abortions? What does being pro life have to do with defending women against sexism. If they are pro life, then they deserve all the sexist remarks made towards them?

    i’ll disregard your last question, because it’s irrelevant.

    but as for the pro life question: the second wave of feminism was rooted in a woman’s right to
    choose. so, having the right to abortion is THE MOST important leap in women’s rights
    in the last 4 billion years. so yes, NOW’s role is to protect that right in perpetuity.

  • Cecelia

    darladoon said:
    is something necessarily sexist because it’s critical of a woman?

    can you give a clear answer to that?

    NOW, btw, is a conservative pseudo-feminist organization.

    Answer to first question– No

    Answer to 2nd statement– if that’s the case, it makes your previous point moot: “NOW’s role is not necessarily to come to the defence of women just because they’re women.

    and i’m not sure why two multi-millionaire white politicians, who btw, are staunchly pro-life, need
    defence on behalf of NOW because the media is pushing a pointless story.”

  • cjd ohio 1

    darladoon said:
    some liberal women do sex work. NOW would not come to their defence. for instance, the first sex worker union is from san francisco. NOW did not stand up for them.

    pardon me, wrong words, NOW only defends woman that share their point of view, should change their name to NOSW

  • darladoon

    Cecelia said:
    Whatevah…

    well, i enjoyed your answer, but you dodged the point about whether there is something
    unethical in anti-feminist stance in the media.

    first, you defended palin/bachmann from this nonsense, and now you’re saying it “makes
    good copy,” completely switching 180 degrees.

  • darladoon

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    pardon me, wrong words, NOW only defends woman that share their point of view, should change their name to NOSW

    how can NOW be truly “liberal” if they won’t defend sex workers?

  • darladoon

    Cecelia said:
    Answer to first question– No

    Answer to 2nd statement– if that’s the case, it makes your previous point moot: “NOW’s role is not necessarily to come to the defence of women just because they’re women.

    and i’m not sure why two multi-millionaire white politicians, who btw, are staunchly pro-life, need
    defence on behalf of NOW because the media is pushing a pointless story.”

    i don’t understand why it makes my point moot, though, explain.

  • cjd ohio 1

    darladoon said:
    how can NOW be truly “liberal” if they won’t defend sex workers?

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    pardon me, wrong words, NOW only defends woman that share their point of view, should change their name to NOSW

  • Cecelia

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    pardon me, wrong words, NOW only defends woman that share their point of view, should change their name to NOSW

    I think we’re being trolled here. The effort ain’t worth it, if you catch my drift.

  • Cecelia

    darladoon said:
    well, i enjoyed your answer, but you dodged the point about whether there is something
    unethical in anti-feminist stance in the media.

    You didn’t ask me if there was “something unethical in anti-feminist stance in the media”, you asked me why would a liberal media be anti-feminist.

    Same reason ANY part of the media would– good copy…

  • Cecelia

    darladoon said:
    i don’t understand why it makes my point moot, though, explain.

    Because if NOW is merely a conservative pseudo-feminist group, your expounding on the proper parameters of a bogus organization is moot.

  • teccec

    Cecelia said:
    It wasn’t too long ago that the media meme was that Christine O’Donnell and Bachmann were feuding.

    With men it’s the competitive spirit, with women it’s always some sort of cat fight bull shit.

    Finally a voice of reason posted for this article. Be it racism, elitism, sexism, almost all of it comes from one ideological viewpoint. The right has had their isms too, but none so violently hateful as what comes from the extreme left, except of course the extreme right – which are so few and so unheard from they barely rate mentioning. The extreme left so dominates media they even have admitted socialists as recognized spokespersons and leaders. Name one so far right as to be fascist. Some loon might say Bush which is hilarious considering how centrist he was on many issues. Just because he took the country to war he must be Hitler goes their logic – gee, I wonder how Obama’s wars sit with them.

  • darladoon

    Cecelia said:
    You didn’t ask me if there was “something unethical in anti-feminist stance in the media”, you asked me why would a liberal media be anti-feminist.

    Same reason ANY part of the media would– good copy…

    not any part of the media would.

    otherwise, why would coulter argue this as only “liberal” sexism?

    i.e. that presumably conservative media wouldn’t run the story

  • seek

    darladoon said:
    so NOW not coming to the defence of palin is an example of their liberal sexism?

    riiiiiight.

    NOW’s role is not necessarily to come to the defence of women just because they’re women.

    and i’m not sure why two multi-millionaire white politicians, who btw, are staunchly pro-life, need
    defence on behalf of NOW because the media is pushing a pointless story.

    It isn’t? Oh – so they pick and choose who they will defend.
    You want an abortion – we’re here for you
    You want a baby – bugger off and get out of our faces.
    Makes sense – why didn’t I think of that

    p.s. didn’t realize you’d had your nose removed – thus it isn’t plain. Sorry to hear about it – did a cranky right winger bite it off?

  • darladoon

    teccec said:
    The extreme left so dominates media

    if fox news has the highest rates in the news media, then how can the “extreme left”
    be dominating?

  • darladoon

    seek said:
    It isn’t? Oh – so they pick and choose who they will defend.
    You want an abortion – we’re here for you
    You want a baby – bugger off and get out of our faces.
    Makes sense – why didn’t I think of that

    p.s. didn’t realize you’d had your nose removed – thus it isn’t plain. Sorry to hear about it – did a cranky right winger bite it off?

    re-read what i said. i said it “doesn’t necessarily come to the defence of women” based on
    their sex.

    cecilia agreed with me.

    basic concept, i’m sure you can grasp it.

  • cjd ohio 1

    darladoon said:
    if fox news has the highest rates in the news media, then how can the “extreme left”be dominating?

    in cable news

  • seek

    darladoon said:
    some liberal women do sex work.

    NOW would not come to their defence.

    for instance, the first sex worker union is from san francisco.

    NOW did not stand up for them.

    lol

  • darladoon

    Cecelia said:
    Because if NOW is merely a conservative pseudo-feminist group, your expounding on the proper parameters of a bogus organization is moot.

    that’s only partially true. i don’t like NOW because they’re the really just the last
    trench against regression to pre-choice times.

    they haven’t taken progressive positions on issues which i think are far more
    important (such as standing up for sex workers or porn actresses)

  • darladoon

    seek said:
    lol

    that was a big deal

  • seek

    darladoon said:
    re-read what i said. i said it “doesn’t necessarily come to the defence of women” based on
    their sex.

    cecilia agreed with me.

    basic concept, i’m sure you can grasp it.

    You are an absolutely out there left wing extremist with not a whit of sense.
    So we now know from your brilliant deduction that NOW does not support sex trade workers or republicans.
    Thank you

    Do you have any idea how truly silly you sound. You’d defend any stupidity and think you’re brilliant or a free thinker. You’re so far in the tank for liberal dogma that you stand for nothing – absolutely nothing.
    Just parrot junk you’ve heard elsewhere.

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  • seek

    darladoon said:
    that was a big deal

    Only in your ridiculous mind.
    Perhaps you want to move to Canada – case right now about protection for sex trade workers. Right up your alley.

  • darladoon

    seek said:
    You are an absolutely out there left wing extremist with not a whit of sense.
    So we now know from your brilliant deduction that NOW does not support sex trade workers or republicans.
    Thank you

    Do you have any idea how truly silly you sound. You’d defend any stupidity and think you’re brilliant or a free thinker. You’re so far in the tank for liberal dogma that you stand for nothing – absolutely nothing.
    Just parrot junk you’ve heard elsewhere.

    not “republicans” but “anti-choicers”

    that’s THE most important function of NOW.

    now, on the ‘sex workers’ issue: that’s vital to progressive feminism. women’s right
    to choose includes the right to be an ethical slut.

    google ‘ethical slut’ and find the book and read it.

    NOW is appalled by women who like sex, and won’t defend them, and i think
    that’s pathetic.

    that’s just my opinion, and a nuanced example of how NOW isn’t really liberal at all.

  • seek

    Who the hell said republicans are “anti choicers”? We believe in choice – you twits don’t!
    I don’t give a crap if you have an abortion once a month – don’t care
    That’s the big difference – we truly believe in choice and me for myself choose not to have an abortion – for that I’m not worthy of NOW’s support?

    Tell me who really believes in freedom. It sure the hell isn’t the liberals. They believe in the freedom they choose for you and not the other side.

    We believe in freedom to such an extent that we don’t care what stupid things you believe and support. You don’t extend the same courtesy to the other side – you want to stifle, shut down and stop any opposing thought. Yah a fine group of people you are.

    Pro choice is the biggest pile of bull shit in the world. It’s honest agenda is pro abortion – no choice!

  • George C

    Cecelia said:
    I think we’re being trolled here. The effort ain’t worth it, if you catch my drift.

    You mean the unionization of liberal sex trade workers and NOW retisence to come to their defense, doesn’t have anything to do with the media treatment of Rep. Michele Bachmann , and Sean Hannity and Ann Coulters response to that issue ? I’m shocked . ” Shocked ” , I say .

  • darladoon

    George C said:
    You mean the unionization of liberal sex trade workers and NOW retisence to come to their defense, doesn’t have anything to do with the media treatment of Rep. Michele Bachmann , and Sean Hannity and Ann Coulters response to that issue ? I’m shocked . ” Shocked ” , I say .

    it appears you missed the point as well. someone argued that NOW never came to bachmann
    and palin’s defence.

    i argue that NOW doesn’t necessarily come to a particular defence, based on political party
    or sex or occupation.

  • darladoon

    seek said:
    Pro choice is the biggest pile of bull shit in the world. It’s honest agenda is pro abortion – no choice!

    of course, we love abortions!!

  • darladoon

    yeah, they’re not “anti-choicers”

    in ohio today:

    “if signed into law, House Bill 125, sponsored by state Rep. Lynn R. Wachtmann (R), would make abortions illegal after a fetal heartbeat is detected, which usually occurs around six weeks after conception”

  • darladoon

    and sponsored by a woman?!

  • darladoon

    i’m SURE republicans have a plan B to, you know, prevent “unintended consequences”?

    right?

    as in, i’m sure they’re going to immediately increase sex education funding in the ghetto?

    oh right. they hate education!

  • George C

    darladoon said:
    it appears you missed the point as well. someone argued that NOW never came to bachmann
    and palin’s defence.

    Clue . If you are the only one getting your point , you have no point . Capiche ?

  • darladoon

    George C said:
    Clue . If you are the only one getting your point , you have no point . Capiche ?

    with the late night mediaite crowd, you can never know

  • Paul G

    darladoon said:
    it appears you missed the point as well. someone argued that NOW never came to bachmann
    and palin’s defence.

    i argue that NOW doesn’t necessarily come to a particular defence, based on political party
    or sex or occupation.

    Good evening darlaloon.
    But REALLY? “….”NOW doesn’t necessarily come to a particular defence, based on political party
    or sex or occupation”. REALLY? …The NY branch of NOW stuck up for Weiner…OVER THE WOMEN!!!
    HAHAHAHA…….

  • George C

    darladoon said:
    with the late night mediaite crowd, you can never know

    Continue posting to yourself , I’m sure that you will figure it out .

  • Rokker

    Trust Ann Coulter to celebrate Joe McCarthy.

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  • 57 states and corpsman

    Rokker said:
    Trust Ann Coulter to celebrate Joe McCarthy.

    I actually read it as she was comparing John Wayne Gacy to Joe McCarthy and I think this is the first time I agree with Ann Coulter.

  • Just4thefax

    darladoon said:
    has anne coulter said anything worthwhile in her entire life? i have yet to hear anything substantive from her, ever. EVER. it’s all complete bullsh*t. all of it.

    Fact: Get a job work for a living and you then can relate to what she says!

  • Just4thefax

    darladoon said:
    so NOW not coming to the defence of palin is an example of their liberal sexism? riiiiiight. NOW’s role is not necessarily to come to the defence of women just because they’re women. and i’m not sure why two multi-millionaire white politicians, who btw, are staunchly pro-life, needdefence on behalf of NOW because the media is pushing a pointless story.

    Fact: Ask the adults at your house if it’s okay for you to be on a adult site?

  • Just4thefax

    darladoon said:
    of course, we love abortions!!

    Fact: Thank the lord there is only one of you!

  • TfT

    Bwahahaha

    “Bachman has several gaffes”

    Obama’s are “supposed gaffes”.

    So in the eyes of this author:

    57 states
    corpse men
    not knowing MOH recipients are dead or alive
    seeing dead people

    are only “supposed gaffes”.

    This is why no one takes the liberal left seriously anymore.

    It doesn’t get much funnier than that.

  • valkyrie101

    It won’t work, Anne.

  • MBW

    Typical Conservative tactic.

    Accuse liberals of the same things your side does all the time as a way to insulate yourselves.

  • MBW

    Someone on your side saying racist things? No problem. Just accuse liberals of being racist for even bringing it up.

  • MBW

    How is it “rumored” ?? Bristol Palin just accused Bachmann of copying her mom’s style. Sounds like a little bit of tension to me.

  • seek

    MBW said:
    How is it “rumored” ?? Bristol Palin just accused Bachmann of copying her mom’s style. Sounds like a little bit of tension to me.

    to you two ants on the sidewalk would indicate tension – as long as they were republican ants.

  • MBW

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Get a job work for a living and you then can relate to what she says!

    Oh ok. Ann Coulter makes her living by running her mouth on TV and radio….and then turning the transcript into a book.

    Nothing like some good ol’ American ingenuity huh?

  • MBW

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Get a job work for a living and you then can relate to what she says!

    What do you do for a living Just4thefax?

  • MBW

    seek said:

    Pro choice is the biggest pile of bull shit in the world. It’s honest agenda is pro abortion – no choice!

    You, my friend, are an idiot.

    If that’s what pro-choice is, what is prolife? Women getting raped by their fathers and having kids?

  • MBW

    WOMAN: “I’m pregnant, what am i going to do?”

    GOP: Whatever you do, don’t have an abortion! Every life is a gift.

    WOMAN: Ok.

    (Baby is born)

    WOMAN: Now I can’t take care of my baby…I don’t have enough money. Can somebody help me?

    GOP: There you go again, having welfare babies. Always having to live off of other people’s money. How disgraceful. You should stop having babies.

  • valkyrie101

    MBW said:
    What do you do for a living Just4thefax?

    He’s a fact checker.

  • Azarkhan

    So the dunce didn’t know the age of his own daughter? Obama is obviously much dumber than Sarah Palin.

  • Yukon Jack

    darladoon said:
    they are masters at playing the victim. even when they’re winning (and i when i
    say “winning” i mean “raping the planet”), they still find a way to play the victim.

    Are you talking about those whom the kinds of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson pretend to speak for?

  • MaxWylde

    MWB, your statements about being “pro-choice” are standard fascist drivel. Why?

    Because Rape and Abortion account for less than 7% of all abortions conducted in America. Out of 53 Million murdered babies, that’s less than 4 million killed for rape and incest, and the rest are for reasons of sheer convenience to the mother, the father, and other people.

    It’s just like saying that the Holocaust and the Communist purges that amounted to over 100 million killed were justified because some of those people were guilty of crimes.

    So…what’s your foot size? That way I know what size jackboots I should order for you.

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