but you really don’t see Democratic politicians piling on parts of the country they don’t like in the same way Republicans do

True . Democrats don’t pile on so much as outright dismiss large parts of the country.

for the sake of what little faith i have left in the belief that there is a basement to the stupidity of the avg American, please tell me Newt really wasn’t so boneheaded to actually imply that riding the subway in NYC was somehow for the elites, or worse, that people actually applauded this

Democrats don’t pile on small towns?

Who did Obama refer to as bitter gunclingers, again?

GOP is for the most simple minded persons – and the Democratic party is for the next most simple minded.  Smart people realized the fix was in on both these clown acts long ago…

The Republicans are now going after women too.  

VOTE RON PAUL 2012

I believe he spoke more broadly than just about small towns – given Pennsyltucky has a few fairly LARGE towns, as well as a great number of caves, hollowed-out trees & sod huts, & even some covered sheds (leaned up against the outhouses). But mostly, yours is a fair dig.  

Here’s the thing, tho – that ‘clinging to bibles & guns’ judgment: How’s that actually wrong?

Close: Dumb – the D base. Dumber – the R base. Dumbest – non-voters.

And Unions use people to protest by paying them $60 bucks. 

I want to see Bill Maher and Keith Olbermann yell and scream at a guy in a bubble like spoiled children who didn’t get the red power ranger, again. I think our “liberal” friends would agree when I say that’s real comedy. 

Yeah, this divide is the work of the folks that I believe people like Maher have said are residents of “flyover states,” “Jesusland,” and/or “Dumbf*ckistan.” Yes, of course.

And, Mediaite, enough with the Bill Maher obsession. He’s not that interesting.

There is a competition afoot. The goal is to be more cynical than everyone else. The cardinal sin is to voice optimism or hope for a plan that ultimately fails. So, donow is very safe in his condemnation. Nothing ventured — nothing gained.

If Christopher Columbus, Magellan, Amerigo Vespucci, etc. were as “wise” as donow and the other pseudo-intellectuals right , left, and center, then we’d still be coughing up blood in our huddled masses in overcrowded, tyrannical Europe.

Isn’t it funny how these Republicans who claim to ‘get’ the heartland live in NYC, DC and Long Island. God forbid these rightwing media figures actually move and live amongst the rubes they try to exploit.

“Democrats don’t pile on parts of the country , they outright dismiss most of it .”
says the party of secessionists like Perry and the Palins.

Bob , you’re not a bright man are you ?

As usual Bill pegs the slimy bas-turds.

It’s a lot harder to shamelessly exploit your neighbor

 Here’s what I read: “O noes! Contrary opinions to mine exist, take them away quick before I have a non-RNC approved thought.”

Liberal Elitism is a disease.  It strikes in the mega million man metropolises.  Mr. Maher has never been relevant since by his own admission, he is a comedian.  Pay no attention to his useless babble on subjects he knows nothing about.   He uses his emotional anger and hate to stir the pot of racism and bigotry.  He must have had a very bad childhood. 

conservatives cheered on 9-11 and cried when the commander in chief took out their buddy bin laden.

conservatism is unamerican.

Hey, the Republican Party are all about unity and bringing people together, as long as those people follow their lead and do exactly what they dictate and agree with them on all issues, share the antiquated values system they preach but seldom follow themselves, and are of the right faith of course.

If you don’t agree with them, you’re to be insulted, belittled, persecuted and are meant to have government pressure heaped upon you at the state and national level until your voice is no longer loud enough to mean much of anything, just ask the pro choice, people of other faiths, trade unions, gays and so on that the Republicans have tried so hard to reach out to over the past 2 years and bring together as they’re about unity and aren’t out to divide like that dastardly Obama. :)

 They’re really not, but Obama baited them well and they got caught with a big fat hook in their upper lips.  Now the Republican Party appears as if they are anti-women whether they like it or not.  That’s why it pays to be the incumbent POTUS.  You set the agenda.

 As a liberal, i think that would be hilarious too. What’s not funny about two men screaming at someone who’s trapped inside a bubble, forever withdrawn from the real world.

 The states that tend to vote GOP get a whole lot of federal aid paid in by the states that  tend to vote Democrat. Dam those elitists.

 I saw that report from those liberal hacks on The Daily Show. I gotta say, it sure made the unions look foolish.

What a load of crap from Maher – just what is expected.  I’m surprised Josh bought into his garbage, hook, line and sinker.  I still Bill is still obsession over Sarah….he just can’t get her out of his mind.  He is still scared of her.

This must be a new theme pushed to Maher by Team Obama – wouldn’t surprise me one bit.  Bill and the rest of the liberal idiots on television work for him afterall.

Redundant, yet still spot on and funny. 

Why are all of the republican voting states among the poorest?

 You and the rabid right can’t stop talking about President Obama……you must fear him.

Snicker…what are you so mad about?  POTUS is on television every day, how can we not talk about him – he is in our faces daily….kind of like dear leader or something.  Gives me the willies.

Maher is an uneducated comedian. He uses satire to build up his short-guy ego, something he learned in grammar school, at the point his development stopped. The rabid intolerance and hate this man spews is truly bigoted. The only funny thing to me is how so many find his rants humorous. When I hear someone using bigotry, I turn it off no matter what side they are raging about. A bigot is a bigot but the worse are the ones making a buck at hate while feigning self-importance.

Why are all of the poorest cities (e.g. Washington D.C., Detroit, Newark, Philadelphia, etc.) democrat voting cities?

Thanks Bill for calling out this blatant hypocrisy by the right.

They accuse the Democrats of class warfare, but then engage in cultural and regional warfare.

I still remember when Sarah Palin came to speak in my in-laws’ hometown in NC.

She said “it’s so great to be here in such a pro-America part of America”.

If that’s not cultural/regional warfare, I don’t know what is.

This is the same Bill Maher who called the 9/11 terrorists courageous.  Like the rest of the liberals Bill cheered and celebrated 9/11.

How is he wrong?  Are you saying that Republicans DON’T attack certain parts of the country?

Where have you been for the last 25 years??

How many times have we had to listen to Republicans attack “San Francisco values”  or “Massachussetts liberals”, or New York City elites??

“Bob” said this earlier….but it’s so true, so I’ll repost here:
Isn’t it funny how these Republicans who claim to ‘get’ the heartland live in NYC, DC and Long Island. God forbid these rightwing media figures actually move and live amongst the rubes they try to exploit.
When Sean Hannity does his show from Topeka, Kansas and Ann Coulter packs up so she can attend cocktail parties in Kentucky, I might take all this ‘heartland’ talk a little more seriously.

For some reason, Republicans have this mythology going that real americans only live in small  towns in the middle of the country. Everyone else doesn’t count.

 So true..The Heartland of America…The Combine Farmers, who are guaranteed to have a $500,000 income for a married couple. *The Democrats did want to limit that to $250K but of course the GOP wouldn’t vote for that.

(Combine Farmers are those that use Combines to harvest their crops)  It’s nice when the average wage of an American living in the Southern States only makes $30,000 a year and a farmer a few miles away makes half a million. But Wait…We must elect Republicans so they can overturn Roe vs Wade. Instead all the GOP does is give those farmer’s more money.

The farmers who rely on migrant workers to cut the ripe broccoli, cauliflower, lettuce, cabbage, apples, cherry’s and such… don’t get that “guaranteed” $500,000 a year.

And guess what…They are from the Blue States like Washington & California and Oregon.

For some reason, Democrats have this mythology going that real Americans only live in big cities on both coasts. Everyone else doesn’t count.

It seems to me that there’s a long history of Republicans and conservatives being very insulting to the working poor; the whole “welfare queen” thing, for example, and Newt’s recent forays into lecturing black people on what their values should be, or how ’bout the WSJ calling people who don’t earn enough money to owe federal income taxes “lucky duckies.” If that isn’t class warfare, then neither is saying that the wealthy should pay a bit more in taxes.

You understand this website is about politics right? So I know its amazing but on a policital site your going to see people talking about the President.

There is a long history of lberals having a deep hatred of America and everything it stands for.

Isn’t it funny how these liberals who claim to “get” the poor are the 1% and don’t live amongst the rubes they do exploit.  When Barack Obama and the rest of the of them send their kids to the city public schools then I might take them a little more seriously.  However, they would never send their kids to school with black people.

There’s a long history of people on the right painting everyone that dares to question them as unpatriotic or as traitors who hate America. It used to be an effective form of political attack, but these days it’s lost all value because the right have cried wolf far too many times. :)

Mitt Romney owns ocean homes  on BOTH coasts … Tells you everything you need to know about what he thinks counts.  .. He’ll gladly pander to the middle of the country though..

There are poor people in every city, Barry.

Oh yes, the classic “they hate us for our freedoms” bullshit.  

Republicans need to just accept the fact that this is (and always has been) a two party country.

The country was not founded by people who all agreed on everything.  There have always been “liberals” and always been “conservatives” in this country.

Republican mythology wants you to believe that America used to be some Tea Party utopia until the liberals came along and screwed it up, which is utter and complete horseshit. We’ve been here since the founding and we’re not going away.

We’ll there sure are a heck of a lot more people who live on the coasts and in the cities….but we sure have to spend a lot of time in our political discourse listening to your party pander to the people who live in “middle America”.

To be honest, I think both sides generalize about their opponent… liberals calling Republicans all racist hicks, and Republicans calling all Liberals hippies on welfare.

Maher’s done the exact same thing, the skit kind of seemed disingenuous to be honest.

No, there isn’t. You made it up.

“Only suckers and college athletes do not get paid for a day’s work.”

Here’s the full quote:

“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

Frankly Obama got it exactly right. I’ve seen this in my own family.

Sure Barry. Well of course the 911 terrorists were courageous in that they laid down their lives for what they believed in, even though what they believed in was totally bogus. But they were cowards for taking the lives of other innocent people. The record reflects, even in the congress, that liberals and conservatives came together in support of President Bush’s decision to invade Iraq, and no one, other than those who claimed, like Pat Robertson, former republican presidential candidate, that 911 was God’s punishment on America, celebrated 911.

Don’t stop there: NYC, Chicago, LA… Its much more a northern/southern thing, don’t you think? With the elitist controlled southern state governments seeking to retain their power to keep their own people in poverty. Its almost like 1860, and the tea party position is mostly a recitation of the south’s pre-civil war position.

When Sean Hannity does his show from Topeka, Kansas and Ann Coulter packs up so she can attend cocktail parties in Kentucky, I might take all this ‘heartland’ talk a little more seriously.

I think that Jocko is onto something here.
Bob, you really aren’t a bright man , are you ?

LOL

I think you will find that most of the media in this country, but not all, is generated out of LA and NYC. On the other hand, they do not grow corn in NYC. Rather, farmers bring their corn to the city to sell. Likewise, the city folk sell their picture shows, and girlie magazines to the country folk. The country folk takes care of all of our collective stomach needs, and the city folk take care of our collective thinking and creative needs. Indeed, the average country bumpkin is far more intelligent today, as a result of having a tv in his house, than he would be normally, with he having to get up before dawn, milking the cows, feeding the chickens, and doing chores (all before breakfast), before walking five miles to a country school. I mean he can just stay home and watch re-runs of 2 and a half, now, if he wants to. 

Even the country bumpkins call themselves hicks. We call them that with affection, because that name, and others like it, also implies “innocence”. And innocence is a beautiful and attractive quality. It is all part of the diversity that makes up America. We are one nation, not a bunch of states or regions.

Come on. Its not about insulting. Laughing at each other is part of the fun. Its not personal. This PC crap is for the birds.

Not everything it stands for, only the bad things. If we claim to be perfect we make ourselves as gods.

Because nothing says “bright” like repeating the same taunt without offering anything in the way of refutation.

;)

Then you must like Beck now.

“Thinking.” You’re funny.

Um, you’re talking to one guy. Hope that helps.

It’s a great way to bring people together and rise above partisanship.

 That would have to mean the Republicans took the quote out of context.
Arent they the same people who were OUTRAGED about Romneys comment about the poor.(although add those few extra words and I still see no difference)

And the rest of the country would be you and your ilk, Maher!
You’re little more than an indoctrinated, politically-correct talking point.

1) Jocko was succinct and captured it. No reason to add anything.

2) Defending idiocy, or believing that  statements containing such idiocy ,need to somehow be refuted to be disproven says…..well …you know .

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Yea, that’s a reach, isn’t it? How about, creative and “libido” needs?

 Would wager that ‘progressives’ from New England and LA used the term ‘flyover country’ long before conservatives referred to the ‘heartland’.

Proving Maher a propagandist in the mold of Ilya Ehrenburg.

You have described Liberalism to a tee!

pro choice folks don’t have a voice???? tell that to the Kormen foundation.

people of other faiths don’t have a voice???? Tell that to our schools, universities, and governments, who have given faiths other than Christianity special rights.

unions don’t have a voice???? please, see MSNBC, the Obama admin, etc…. Any dwindling voice they have is due to the fact of their dwindling memberships.

Gays???? Really, tell that to Roland Martin.

The left in this country puts us all in little groups and tells us how the others have victimized us. 

At least we are talking about the current president and not blaming the last.

 Nothing wrong with that quote – it’s not wrong to state what you truly think …  and that quote, in that it was a ‘dig’, demonstrates his conviction that the country would be better if it had no second amendment rights and had no Christianity.

How many times did we during the primaries that “Iowa doesn’t represent America”, or “NH does not represent America”, or “SC doesn’t represent America”…….

Please both parties are guilty. Get over it. 

I know and it never changes, yet they come and vote for democratic mayor after democratic mayor. You would think just based on no results the folks in that city would try something different just to see if it might work once.

I hope you understand that political power derives from money. If you keep your electorate poor, it will be hard to retain any political power. And please don’t start with the rich corporation crap. In order for big evil corporations to remain that way, they need all of us to, get this, VOLUNTARILY spend our money on their products and services. Can’t really do that when the electorate is poor. The electorate is poorer now. Does that mean Obama wants to keep us poor so he can have more power? 

Leftists are the elites. One need only recall the famous New Yorker magazine cover depicting a map according to Leftists. It showed New York city and then nothing until LA. New Yorker Magazine is Leftist-fueled. They deserve getting bludgeoned because they talk about ‘tolerance’ and ‘inclusion’ while practicing just the opposite. If you aren’t from a ‘big coastal city,’ you are hated.

Not quite the same.  To say that Iowa (or the others) doesn’t represent America in the context of an election is demonstrably true.

If you look at the demographic breakdown of Iowa, it’s not representative of the overall population of the country.  That’s not an insult to Iowa, it’s just the facts.  The country isn’t 91.3% white like Iowa, for example.   Doesn’t make Iowa a bad state….but it’s not representative of the country.

Florida, for example, comes very close to representing the demographics of the country.  Florida is 75% white, compared to 72.3% nationally.  There is also a mix of conservative and liberal, white, latino, black, etc.   

The representative-ness of Florida has consistently borne itself out in election results.

You know very well that politics is much more than just about rich or poor. 

If it were only about income, then more “Red” states would vote Democratic.

That’s just an erroneous generalization on your part, grb. There will always be some gap between the differing sub-cultures of our country but we are one nation.

No, he is politically incorrect much of the time which is why we like him.

Bill Maher right as usual. Republicans always talk about how America is the beacon of hope for the World.   Trust me ..  when the World looks to the greatness of America, they look towards New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and all the places the right hates, not Mississippi.

I’ll pile on. I wish we could dismiss those parts of the country.

For every $1.00  California sends to the  Fed , we get back $.80 cents.
For every dollar Alabama sends to the Feds, they get back $1.20.
Maybe Blue States are sick of subsidizing  Red States.

As if that’s what you are interested in doing.

Ah, finally someone acknowledges who America’s true welfare queens are – the red states that exist off of the bounty of its blue ones.  

How utterly ironic.

South Carolina (home of Jim DeMint) which is 69% white and 30% black represents America far more than Vermont (home of Bernie Sanders) which is 99% white and less than 1% black.

Talking about welfare queens, young bucks with food stamps and anchor babies is how Republicans try to bring people together.

Um, Rick Santorum doesn’t think insurance companies should even be allowed to cover birth control.  No amount of baiting can coerce a politician into such an anti-woman stance.

One victory doesn’t mean the pressure on the pro choice isn’t relentless. There have been attempts to ban abortion by the backdoor in Republican
state legislatures, applying rules rules to women’s health clinics designed specifically to shut them down (Virginia, Pennsylvania), On top of that there are attempts at getting personhood amendments in Mississippi and a half dozen other states with no not being an acceptable answer, as well as the constant republican attempts to defund planned parenthood by any means they can find and so on…I won’t even get started on how the right never seem to condemn people who organise the persecution of anyone involved with an abortion clinic.

When people of other faiths get the government bending over backwards to appease them, as we have seen with the contraception mandate, when they have people working tirelessly to force schools to teach their creation myths instead of science, when they can build their temples or mosques wherever they like without screaming outrage from the right like the so called ground zero mosque, I might be inclined to believe that they have more rights than Christians. :)

The right are working hard to destroy unions, look at places like Wisconsin and Ohio and all the other places where there are organised attempts to remove what little powers that unions have left. The right are so determined to prevent people from unionising, they’re even willing to shut down the FAA, costing the american taxpayer millions in order to get rules put in place to make it incredibly difficult for transport workers to unionise.

Gays, well, they’re obviously doing just fine and their voices are being heard, look at all the states they can marry in and how none of the republican presidential candidates are fighting to portray themselves as taking the most hardline stance against homosexuality. Romney and Santorum are both big supporters of gay rights… No wait.

But yes, it’s definitely the left who are trying to divide and silence the voices they disagree with,

Right, which is why I would say that it makes sense for SC to go earlier in the process than VT.  

Bob: “…amongst the rubes…”

Interesting.

It only seems like political power derives from money. Certainly the corporate world believes that. But in reality political power comes from votes.

Corporations are not evil, because man made “tools”, like corporations or the economic system of capitalism, are not capable of being either good or bad. (Likewise, guns do not kill people, people kill people.) But the whole idea that an imperfect man made system like capitalism, or tool of production like a corporation, can not be improved to better serve its master, is silly. Corporations have moved jobs outside the US while pocketing the savings from the much lower taxes that were supposed to fuel investment in the US. Obviously we need to adjust that.

You probably did hear those things.  But you didn’t hear them from Democratic politicians.  The difference is Republican candidates attack various parts of the country they don’t like.  Democrats, not nearly as much.  Maher is right.  I’ve always wondered why they do that.

But, you know, that’s fine because it is a stupid strategy.  The more Republicans attack San Francisco, Chicago, Massachutsetts, New York, California or Los Angeles, the more narrowly Southern and white they become.  It’s a loser’s strategy.

Perry and Todd Palin have both within the last decade talked of wanting
TX & AK to secede.   Both Perry and the Palins are republicans (Tod
now GOP then AK indy party) so Bob is indeed correct.  Not sure you can
attack his smarts based on this.

I think you’ve heard Heartland for 100+ years, Flyover maybe for 15-20. 

Beyond that, you also never hear anyone ranting with seething resentment about people in Nebraska.  You can’t go an hour on Fox without someone trying to paint a picture of those evil, over-educated liberal city folks from NY, DC or CA…

 Considering that he & Holder have proposed almost no new gun regulations outside of re-instating the assault weapon ban, and that Obama is fairly vocal about his own Christianity (in spite of the best efforts by the right to dismiss that) it seems like he’s not really all that committed to his supposed vision of a gun and religion free American.   But definitely keep pushing that narrative, you probably could speak at next year’s CPAC.

 He baited them into revealing their true stances and biases?  That bastard!

 Scary Republicans to this left of center voter:  Paul Ryan & John Hunstman.  These are intelligent men who can talk for 10 minutes and sound educated, sane and not pandering to the extreme biases and misinformation of the GOP base.   But in reality, their economic programs are darwinian, and geared to tilt the playing field even more than it already is toward corporations and the ultra-wealth.   These guys scared the crap out of me until the knuckle draggers voting in the GOP primaries totally ignored Huntsman the instant they didn’t hear the hatred they thrive on in any of his words.

Sarah, Michell, Rick & Newt are scary only in that they would reveal just how neolithic, reactionary and detached from fact & reality the 20% of the country that supports them truly is.   Look at Palin’s approval ratings plunge in direct correlation to the amount of exposure she got and you will see just how scary she isn’t.

Off your Meds again?

Probably has a ton of abandonment issues I’d guess.

Republicans want to take women’s rights back to the stone age.  Twenty-eight states require insurance companies to cover contraception. Santorum and other Republicans want to roll that back.  Republicans baited themselves with these idiotic ideas they have.  

Cause they have to take care of the Blue states!

val…val…val.  what are we going to do with you?  Get back donwstairs until dinner time.  Dad.

SO?  Have a problem with them speaking the truth regarding the elitist mentality and bias?

The Dema attack the fabric of the nation as a whole by the comments about “Right Wingers” and mean “Repubs.”

What the Hell are you talking about?

Democrats Have All The Money !!

Behead The Rich !!

It just is.  Too general a statement without proof.  Typical Leftist/liberal trype.

True, if Santorum had it his way there would be no BC besides abstinence & Jesus.

Yeah I do have a problem with it…It’s hypocrisy.
Republicans are elitist in a different way:  ”We’re more American than you” etc.

What a stupid arguments… the left has been talking about those “stupid read states in the middle”  forever…. Maher really needs to rethink before he runs his soup coolers

Don’t bother trying to figure out what CentralScrutinizer is writing.  His only concern is that he continues to receive his food stamps and welfare.  He does not want that taken away from him.  According to him he worked too hard for it.

If Obama had his way there would be the next Holocaust.

Politically correct? Saying Jesus was a bastard who didn’t know who his real daddy was doesn’t seem PC to me.

If he’s not that interesting why did you read the article? Why did you post a comment?

I don’t like Maher anymore. Both he & Ann Coulter could put their intelligence to better use but instead they focus on being trolls that antagonize the other side & make the dialogue very mean spirited. Neither should be proud of themselves for how they put their education & intelligence to use. What a waste.

You came here to read this story so you care about him too.

He’s probably a lot smarter than you.

Sure I can , yours too.

With regards to Perry ,

The Obama team falsely suggests Texas Gov. Rick Perry advocated secession. Perry’s actual remarks have been mischaracterized.

From FactCheck ( actual url sent comment to moderation)

Todd Palin ?? Really?  Which office has held or run for ? Further who even has aked him for his opinion ?

Enjoy your afternoon.

Are you Hank Williama Jr?

I think it depends on the Republican. Clearly, Republicans have sent a very bad message to women.

My comment did not suggest that anything had yet been done or not done – it suggested his sentiment.  Your response suggested nothing to counter that comment.  Surely you cannot believe that his sentiment is other than what was suggested, easily shown by his words.

Interesting that you mention ‘he & Holder’ have proposed almost no new ‘gun regulation’.  Perhaps they were waiting until the border war, fueled by guns the Feds illegally allowed to cross the border to be delivered to drug gangs, had erupted into open inter-national hostilities.  That would have provided a major shift in national sentiment regarding the second amendment. 

But the gang that couldn’t shoot straight couldn’t even get that right.  It is easily understandable by all except the most willfully blind partisans that to engage in such an operation to ‘track the guns to the gangs’, you have to have a tracking capability once they are across the border or the cooperation of Mexican authorities to track them once they crossed.  With no telemetry devices on the weapons themselves, and with no discussions with the Mexican government regarding the gunwalking operation, to suggest the objective was to ‘track the guns’ can only be believed by the excessively partisan and the brain-dead.

And yes, he has been ‘fairly vocal about his Christianity’…  Similarly, most Christians I know who are vocal about their Christianity tend to make derogatory comments about other Christians who ‘cling to their bibles’…  (NOT)

Could you get me an invite to CPAC ?

Certainly not over-educated … mis-educated.

Bill Maher only exists because he is on HBO. I have yet to meet someone that watches him.

Love you Bill…. You dare to say the things that are Not “Politically Correct” and say it with a straight face.
Keep on going! I always have a gooooddddd laugh.

 Sorry Barry,  I’m not in the 1% but I am in the top tax bracket so it’s more than likely I’m subsidizing you rather than the other way around.   You’re welcome.

Should be pretty clear.  Try re-reading, and if you still are confused I’ll simplify for you: The scariest republicans to me are the ones who actually are smart enough to sound reasonable in spite of their darwinistic economic plans.  Huntsman, Paul Ryan, even Chris Christie fall into this category.  These guys usually avoid making obscenely stupid comments like Palin, Gingrich, Santorum and Bachmann.  

The ultra right wing pols who pander to the least educated and most fear and hate filled portion of the party would be steamrolled in a general election.   They are mostly a sad spectacle to those of us who oppose the modern GOP. 

It’s the more polished and sane sounding ones like Huntsman who scare me, because they could actually get elected along with their dangerous economic plans.

 Sorry Joe, now way you get that attempted BS off the ground.   Blue states pay more in Federal Taxes than they get back in funding and services from the Fed.  Red States get back more than they pay.   With only 2 or 3 exceptions in each column, Blue supports Red.  

You Red State young bucks and welfare queens could at least say thank you.

Perhaps you believe Fox News?
foxnews dot com/politics/2009/04/15/governor-says-texans-want-secede-union-probably-wont/
 

 If you look at the growth of real income, the poverty rate, and the change in the amount of the nation’s collective wealth controlled by the top 1% 25 years ago (33%) as opposed to today (42%) it’s pretty apparent that a one-sided class war has been waged for the past 30 years.  It’s only called a class war now that the middle and working class are protesting.

Right, liberals cheered 9/11.  Find one quote or video clip supporting that one.  Liberals lined up behind Bush. and uniformly dropped the very valid questions as the legitimacy of the 2000 election results to support him.  His approval rating hit 90% in a show of solidarity immediately after 9-11.    You can have any opinion you want, but you can’t make up your own facts to keep things happy in your fantasy world.

As for Maher, he agreed with conservative pundit Dinesh D’Souza who was disagreeing with Bush’s depiction of the terrorists as cowards, saying that they were lots of bad things, but coward was not one of them.  The exact quote: ” Staying in the airplane when it hits the building. Say what you want about it. Not cowardly. You’re right.”

Sorry to introduce facts in the debate.  

 Agreed – I was just pointing that out to our friend BarryHu up thread, too.   It’s 20 years of the Fox/Rush bubble. 

 Nice try.  It was a joke by the New Yorker mocking how obsessed New Yorkers are with the city.  It was the map as seen by new yorkers, not leftists.   And that big awful New York also contains Fox News and a whole raft of conservative pundits and wall street & corporate GOP sugar daddies.   Care to try again?

 Actually, I said that if this was his sentiment, he was doing a crappy job on acting on it, so actually I directly countered your comment. 

As for your Fast & Furious spin, it was a knuckleheaded policy when Obama’s justice department did it, and a knuckleaded policy when Bush’s justice department started it.   There should be consequences for both.   But trying to spin this and Solynoya into major administration shaking scandals isn’t going to get far.  Also, does nothing to counter my comment that there have been no major gun control initiatives.

Even shakier is your attempt to say that most Christians you know don’t make derogatory comments about other Christians who ‘cling to their bibles.’   Does this in any way offer any proof that Obama isn’t a Christian?  If you want to go to the wacko well and claim he’s a Muslim, be my guest.  Just come out and say it, rather than imply it. 

And one other thing just to humor your flawed argument: I’m a church going Episcopalian with a sister who is an Episcopal Minister and a father who is the head of the vestry at his church.  I have heard endless Christians all over the country make derogatory comments about a narrow minded fundamentalist Christian who attempts to ‘cling to the  bible’ and use it as a shield to protect their campaigns for backward, bigoted, regressive policies toward women, gays, the poor, immigrants and so on.  

And I’ll work on getting you that golden ticket to CPAC 2013.  I think Orly Taitz is carpooling.

Sorry, no comparison between the gunrunning operation under Bush and the gunrunning program under Holder.

Under Bush, Mexican government knew times, places, worked with the US government and it led to arrests of drug lords and recovery of weapons.

Under Holder, Mexican government was not informed, so the weapons were simply a gift from Holder to the drug lords which has resulted in hundreds of deaths in Mexico.

As Herman would say, “Apples and Oranges”.

It’s no.  It’s accurate.

YES !

We should blame the last.  This is all his fault.

You do realize that cover was created expressly to mock insular New York attitudes, don’t you? And then people embraced the image as an “in your face buddy” response because mocking back is what human beings do?

Hatred doesn’t come into it, except from the likes of you. Can I recommend that you just pass on the questions that require a modicum of understanding of human behavior? It’s really not your long suit.

Dear Bill Maher and Bill O’Reilly

Round here, we refer to you as “The Bills”. We get tickled pink when you rouse up the base, cause controversy, and get everyone at each other’s throats. You keep American Sheep-People distracted from what we’re really doing, and contributions to our campaigns go through the roof! This two-party system rocks! It was hilarious watching the American “people” get all moist in the underpants about Obama, thinking there was a way we’d actually let him change anything. Ha, that was a good one! Next, we’ll allow someone to paint themselves as the “New Reagan” and the cycle will repeat. It’s a beautiful thing! Anyway, we appreciate your continued support, and be sure to keep up the attacks on the other side.

Sincerely,

The Republicans and Democrats

Very nicely put. I don’t know who’s really in charge, or even if there is someone pulling strings behind the scenes. But it doesn’t take a Masters degree to see nothing changes from Administration to Administration, from one party control of congress to the other. What stays the same is one side blaming the other, rousing up divisive points of view, and then splitting the spoils of power. We’re getting worked, and all those lefty and righty, democrat and republican yippee-yappers are doing nothing but playing right into the perpetuation of the game.

Oh yes, very nice….. use clever language and obscure references to keep people in need of validation by the mainstream political parties. We love it!

Thank you,

The Republicans and Democrats

 Don’t you mean “those stupid can’t read states in the middle”  ? 

Only about 6% of of college professors consider themselves strong republicans. The people in academia are the ones who are ultimately responsible for informing and educating adults, hence why conservatives despise academia, cause they pretty much never agree with their opinions on things like global warming, evolution, founding fathers, economics, etc.

If you want to argue about how your side is superior, you should probably stick to nebulous things like social issues, gun rights and such. Cause when it comes to learning about hard FACTS, the people with the PhDs are definitely NOT on your side.

Poverty in the inner cities tends to foster democratic voters , although not to the exclusion of middle class independents…just as Wall Street is associated with Republican voters, although not to the exclusion of middle class independents either. So what?

Do you think if you vote Republican, the gods of “rich-by-association” will endow you with wealth?

Nevermind that Obama has actually expanded some gun rights.  For example, he signed a bill permitting firearms in National Parks.

Little Bill “Bigot” Maher has about as much “cred” as a screen door on a submarine…

Face facts, Maher, if not for the mediaite.com, no one would know you were alive & most could care less.

The proof of your BS is where?

I guess I am a little confused.  It’s hard for me to understand how anyone could make such stupid comments and pretend they actually believe them.  You must be trying to joke me…right? The darwinistic economic plans?….you mean spend within your budget and things like that?  Oh…sorry I missed it….now I get it…your freaking Leftist/Liberal/Lying/Loon/Progressive Dimocrap Congress has not come up with a budget for 3 years so they can hide their out of control spending.  Ahhhh..how clever.  Wonder if any on the right are gonna make REAL stupid comments like Pancy Nelosi’s…”We have to pass the bill so we can see what’s in it.”  Ahhh…the bright folks from the Leftist Loon Platoon.  You folks got your butts collectively kicked in the 2010 elections and there is a real strong possibility of a bigger repeat in 2012.  I’m gonna go hide and watch till the crying starts.

Please allow me to introduce myself, I’m a man of wealth and fame.
You need to meet more people with something beyond basic cable.
And he exist on HBO because CBS couldn’t handle him. Not enough freedom left in your USA.

conservatism is for known idiots and racists according to that recent poll. 6% seems about right.

a lot of poor Republicans were outraged by that comment as well. It might explain Romneys tepid support on the right. 

because he speaks the truth and exposes the right for the ignoramuses they are on a consistent basis?

its going to be a sad day on November 5th when Obama cleans Romneys clock.. Im coming right here to laugh at you grandma. Ill probably go to foxnation to laugh at the rubes with dialupAOL as well. 

he just burns your britches doesnt he Bubba. You hayseeds shouldnt have any say about how this country is run. 

how about just about every economic study you uneducated hayseed. try using the google..

So because CBS  fired him, my country has less freedom?
And you assume that my Freinds can’t afford HBO. Meanwhile you claim to be Sir Mick Jagger trolling the internet for posts which feature a Bill Maher video.
I don’t think you thought this one all the way through.

also a long history of conservatives as chickenhawk defenders of the US (except when it comes to them or their chidren getting in harms way) your false patriotism on your side makes me sick.

 Unlike you, I live in a reality based world and am more than happy to supply facts, not right wing BS.

http://www.infographicworld.com/demo/REDvsBLUE/index.html

 A little college might have done you a world of good.   In the meantime, by all means cheer for Gingrich or try to get Palin to jump into the race.    And I’m in no way a huge Obama supporter, but in case you have missed the news over the past 4 months, the GOP is doing a pretty good job of handing him the election on a silver platter.  And that’s before the economy started showing signs of life.  

But be my guest and keep dwelling in that bunker where the general election voters will swoon to a hate filled bomb thrower like Santorum or Newt; where instead of a very intelligent, Wall Street favoring centrist who can debate most people into a corner, the GOP are facing a Marxist/Anarchist who can’t speak without a prompter;  and definitely don’t miss any opportunity to come up with some more swell word games like Dimocrat , leftist loon, or Pancy Nelosi because those are the hallmark of someone who really knows and understands policy and modern politics. 

 In addition to M_B_W’s response, I’d add the opinion that the real elitism you see in American politics is the amazing job done by the wealthiest Americans and the Right wing media in using wedge issues (gay marriage, birth control, sharia law, War on Christmas, etc, etc)  and gross misinformation about economic realities (like the total fail of supply side economics 1981- present and central role of deregulation in the financial collapse of 2008…) to steadily manipulate a healthy percentage of working class and lower-middle class Americans into angrily voting against their own best interests.   

Fox News has raised this to a cynical art form, the results of which can be seen in postings like yours.

1. I read the summary of the article because Mediaite plastered it on the front page right under my nose.

2. I posted a comment to point out how wrong Maher is about this. And how tired I am of Mediaite posting Bill Maher stuff all the time.

I’m not even a Republican. And what you said has zero relevance to my post.

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