Well this should be a no brainer, but I look forward to the libs arguing against it.

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Well this should be a no brainer, but I look forward to the libs arguing against it.

Sorry, I’ll pass. My weekly George Soros paid blogger check hasn’t cleared.

O’Reilly, who defined Media Matters as an organization dedicated to war on Fox News

Actually David Brock of MM admitted it himself. Let’s at least TRY to be honest Frannie!

Emma said:
Sorry, I’ll pass. My weekly George Soros paid blogger check hasn’t cleared.

Based on your comments, he’s seriously over-paying you.

This article is just more red-meat for the Foxnation crowd.

Possibly, please feel free to explain to us why they should be tax-exempt.

How about church’s too.

Just look at all the Koch organizations. Tax-exempt too.

possibly said:
This article is just more red-meat for the Foxnation crowd.

Yet here you are.

Brock admitted openly that they are after Fox News. If you read their website it’s plain to see they are an opposition research arm of the Democratic Party.

slickerwick said:
Brock admitted openly that they are after Fox News. If you read their website it’s plain to see they are an opposition research arm of the Democratic Party.

The day that Media Matters shows up on O’Reilly’s show is the day that I will reconsider MM’s role in the world. :) Until then, they shouldn’t be tax-exempt.

Thelonious Funk said:
How about church’s too.

What charitable contribution does MM provide?

I don’t know much about it but I really understand how Media Matters qualifies to be tax exempt.

Of course James O’Keefe just got the same deal too so if one is denied then the other should be too.

I say let’s deny them both and really open up this can of worms. :)

BFD said:
I don’t know much about it but I really DON’T understand how Media Matters qualifies to be tax exempt.

Of course James O’Keefe just got the same deal too so if one is denied then the other should be too.

I say let’s deny them both and really open up this can of worms. :)

WCinWI said:
What charitable contribution does MM provide?

What charitable contribution does James O’Keefe provide?

“James O’Keefe III has secured tax-exempt status for his nonprofit citizen journalism group Project Veritas.”

Let’s all be consistent in our outrage, mkay?

WCinWI said:
What charitable contribution does MM provide?

I give loads to Make A Wish and The Humane Society. Sweet that I won’t have to pay my taxes next year!

BFD said:
What charitable contribution does James O’Keefe provide? “James O’Keefe III has secured tax-exempt status for his nonprofit citizen journalism group Project Veritas.” Let’s all be consistent in our outrage, mkay?

didn’t bother you till okeefe huh

Looks like Media Matters doesn’t want to pay their fair share.

Nothing to see here, just you typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do liberal organization.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
I give loads to Make A Wish and The Humane Society. Sweet that I won’t have to pay my taxes next year!

perfect liberal quote

cjd ohio 1 said:
perfect liberal quote

In combating right wing stupidity? Absolutely.

Non-profits can’t focus on political advocacy, and that is the ONLY thing Media Matters does. If Soros can get non-profit status for his disinformation henchmen, then you might as well give non-profit status to the Crips and the Bloods.

WCinWI said:
The day that Media Matters shows up on O’Reilly’s show is the day that I will reconsider MM’s role in the world. :) Until then, they shouldn’t be tax-exempt.

except MM doesn’t show up on O’Reilly by choice, you dolt.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
In combating right wing stupidity? Absolutely.

nice try, now you dont want to pay your fair share lol

BarneyFranken said:
Looks like Media Matters doesn’t want to pay their fair share. Nothing to see here, just you typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do liberal organization.

Nothing beats do as i say not as i do Liberalism…….I LOVE MY FRIES……YOUUUUUUU eat yo vegetables and like it!!!

BFD said:
What charitable contribution does James O’Keefe provide?

“James O’Keefe III has secured tax-exempt status for his nonprofit citizen journalism group Project Veritas.”

Let’s all be consistent in our outrage, mkay?

So you combat my question with another person that does the same thing? That’s pure awesomeness.

Why don’t liberals want to pay their fair share?

I mean GE and their subsidiaries NBC and MSNBC did not pay any taxes last year.

Why is that?

Oh, I forgot, liberal corporations are different somehow. Right lefties?

To go with this tangent, I have a question of you lefties.

I want to get rid of all that subsidies they pay to oil companies and such.

Do you want to get rid of all those subsidies to say MM, PBS, NPR, NBC, MSNBC, GE, Planned Parenthood, NEA, etc etc etc?

Come on, you can do it. Show me your hypocrisy!

possibly said:
This article is just more red-meat for the Foxnation crowd.

Sorry folks, show’s over. “Possibly” has left the building.

DavidKramer said:
Why don’t liberals want to pay their fair share?

I mean GE and their subsidiaries NBC and MSNBC did not pay any taxes last year.

Why is that?

Oh, I forgot, liberal corporations are different somehow. Right lefties?

I see you forgot to mention Exxon.

WCinWI said:
So you combat my question with another person that does the same thing? That’s pure awesomeness.

Ummm ….yes, I did. And then I gave you my conclusion that both should be denied tax-exempt status because they clearly violate this provision “bars the organization from participating in partisan political activity.”.

You see, that’s what I do. I examine an issue from both side and then give my opinion on what I think is right, regerdless of side.

But you system of just pointing at the other guy is good too.

So once again let me take baby steps with you….

Do you think James O’Keefe should be denied tax exempt status as well as MM and why?

Simple question and I will respect your answer either way AS LONG AS YOU GIVE A DAMN ANSWER!!

BFD said:
Ummm ….yes, I did. And then I gave you my conclusion that both should be denied tax-exempt status because they clearly violate this provision “bars the organization from participating in partisan political activity.”. You see, that’s what I do. I examine an issue from both side and then give my opinion on what I think is right, regerdless of side. But you system of just pointing at the other guy is good too. So once again let me take baby steps with you…. Do you think James O’Keefe should be denied tax exempt status as well as MM and why? Simple question and I will respect your answer either way AS LONG AS YOU GIVE A DAMN ANSWER!!

well to be fair, after okeefe has been doing it for 7 years then he should be stopped too.

And while the media is dealing with tax stories, why is nobody covering the Treasury secretary’s statement today — that taxes need to be raised on small business owners, so government doesn’t have to shrink?

This kind of thinking is what keeps us in such an economic mess. Main Street is penalized so Washington DC can stay fat, dumb and happy!

And — I can safely predict — not a single mainstream media outlet will give attention to this story, with the possible exception of Fox. And then the mainstream media execs wonder why they are losing ratings, while Fox and the Wall Street Journal are gaining. Maybe if they covered news rather than hiding it, they might hold on to their audience.

Way to GO, BILL – Shut them DOWN!

It’s called a Twist of Faith!

“…Washington Times reporter C.boyden Gray …

You’re leaving a little out He ‘s not some old dog or cat off the street :

” Clayland Boyden Gray (born February 6, 1943) is a former American diplomat and public servant. He is a member of the board of directors at the Atlantic Council and at The European Institute.

He served most recently as the Special Envoy for European Affairs and Special Envoy for Eurasian Energy at the Mission of the United States to the European Union. He was previously United States Ambassador to the European Union. He was appointed Special Envoy for European Affairs by United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on January 11, 2008. On March 31, the White House announced his appointment to the additional post of Special Envoy for Eurasian Energy.[1]

He took up the post of Ambassador to the EU on 17 January 2006, when US President George W. Bush granted him a recess appointment to the post.[2] Prior to that, he was a partner with the law firm Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr. He served as White House Counsel to President George H. W. Bush.

He is a member of the Federalist Society.[3] He was presented with the Presidential Citizens Medal in 1993 by President Clinton.[4] “

felixw said:
And while the media is dealing with tax stories, why is nobody covering the Treasury secretary’s statement today — that taxes need to be raised on small business owners, so government doesn’t have to shrink?

This kind of thinking is what keeps us in such an economic mess. Main Street is penalized so Washington DC can stay fat, dumb and happy!

And — I can safely predict — not a single mainstream media outlet will give attention to this story, with the possible exception of Fox. And then the mainstream media execs wonder why they are losing ratings, while Fox and the Wall Street Journal are gaining. Maybe if they covered news rather than hiding it, they might hold on to their audience.

The democratic Senators had pushed a bill to give a tax holiday to small businesses and the RepubliCons rejected it. They had perviously had supported it, but of course the RepubliCons want the economy to get worse for political reasons.

It would be GREAT for Beck and Fox News if Media Matters have to shut-down!

At least O’Reilly admits that Media Matters doing battle with Fox News is a partisan battle because they are a Right-wing organization.

You see, if Fox really was fair and balanced then Media Matters exposing them wouldn’t be partisan.
But since they are clearly an extension of the Republican party then Media Matters is attacking the GOP, which clearly is partisan of them.

By definition Media Matters attacks on Fox can only be considered partisan if Fox is associated with a political party.

Bill has sucked himself into a bit of a Catch 22.

Where would A-MESS-NBC and the Democrat Party get their talking points from without Media Matters?

Yoda002 said:
I see you forgot to mention Exxon.

I noticed you did not mention my second comment.

Why is that?

BFD said:
Do you think James O’Keefe should be denied tax exempt status as well as MM and why?

I think we’d need to see evidence of O’Keefe’s current group doing what Media Matters is doing. If so, sure… get rid of the TE status. But is that what his group is doing? Is there evidence of that?

BFD said:
At least O’Reilly admits that Media Matters doing battle with Fox News is a partisan battle because they are a Right-wing organization.

False.

You see, if Fox really was fair and balanced then Media Matters exposing them wouldn’t be partisan.

MM also goes after all major newspapers, television programs, and so on. They FOCUS on FNC because FNC allows more Conservatives and Republicans to present their POVs on air than the others. But remember, MM has also attacked folks like Chris Matthews over and over again, because he’s not “left enough.”

But since they are clearly an extension of the Republican party then Media Matters is attacking the GOP, which clearly is partisan of them.

False.

By definition Media Matters attacks on Fox can only be considered partisan if Fox is associated with a political party.

Or unless MM is shown to be a liberal advocacy group, encouraging certain view points while attacking others, and fighting for limited speech (specifically, limiting speech which goes against their ideology and candidates)… in which case, it’s different.

Bill has sucked himself into a bit of a Catch 22.

False.

BFD said:
At least O’Reilly admits that Media Matters doing battle with Fox News is a partisan battle because they are a Right-wing organization. You see, if Fox really was fair and balanced then Media Matters exposing them wouldn’t be partisan.But since they are clearly an extension of the Republican party then Media Matters is attacking the GOP, which clearly is partisan of them. By definition Media Matters attacks on Fox can only be considered partisan if Fox is associated with a political party. Bill has sucked himself into a bit of a Catch 22.

lol, yeah admitted lol

Can liberals start their own tea party?

Van Jones is hoping to rival the tea party movement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

juan said:
Can liberals start their own tea party?

Van Jones is hoping to rival the tea party movement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

They’ve tried at least twice and both times were total failures. LOL!

ImNotBlue said:
I think…..

Good post.

DavidKramer said:
To go with this tangent, I have a question of you lefties. I want to get rid of all that subsidies they pay to oil companies and such. Do you want to get rid of all those subsidies to say MM, PBS, NPR, NBC, MSNBC, GE, Planned Parenthood, NEA, etc etc etc? Come on, you can do it. Show me your hypocrisy!

With respect to any of the for profit corporations you mentioned, goliaths all, liberals seek higher taxation, back to Reagan levels, or if necessary, Eisenhower levels. As for the not for profit corporations you mentioned, or any others, I hardly see how they have any relevence to big business and how big business is taxed. As it is now, leaving money in big busines hands, leaving most of those record profits in their hands, they do not invest in the U.S. but rather, they invest in other countries where they get more bang for the buck in cheap labor no regulation economies. Why not, corporations are trying to make money. Who gets burned in that scenario? The American worker. Who then must take care of the American worker and his family? The U.S. government. Where must the U.S. government get the money to take care of the American worker? From the people making all the profits by cutting the American worker out of the equation – the big corporations. That’s obvious.

The “coffee party” was a total failure

“One Nation” was a total failure as well

ROFLMBAO!!!!!

Then there’s that racist “tequilla” thing that flopped as well

Jaurez said:
They’ve tried at least twice and both times were total failures. LOL!

The COFFEE party!

What was their number one idea. RAISE TAXES.

Boy, I wonder why THAT failed!

BFIdiot said:
Good post.

In other words you have no proof, right? Thanks for playing.

valkyrie101 said:
With respect to any of the for profit corporations you mentioned, goliaths all, liberals seek higher taxation, back to Reagan levels, or if necessary, Eisenhower levels. As for the not for profit corporations you mentioned, or any others, I hardly see how they have any relevence to big business and how big business is taxed. As it is now, leaving money in big busines hands, leaving most of those record profits in their hands, they do not invest in the U.S. but rather, they invest in other countries where they get more bang for the buck in cheap labor no regulation economies. Why not, corporations are trying to make money. Who gets burned in that scenario? The American worker. Who then must take care of the American worker and his family? The U.S. government. Where must the U.S. government get the money to take care of the American worker? From the people making all the profits by cutting the American worker out of the equation – the big corporations. That’s obvious.

Thank you, one hypocrite.

You want to cut subsidies to corporations you do not like. And keep your pet projects. So you want to force ALL businesses over seas and not address the SPENDING problem.

Any other hypocrites?

Hehehehehe…….

Seems like Fixed News has a message for the people these days:

“We are GOPTV and we don’t like it when the medias point it out as we are suppose to be “fair and balanced”,but we are too stupid to realize that the more we defend ourselves and attack people on that subject the more we show that we’d rather attack the medias than actually cover some news,reminding people that we are a vindictive conservative organization….plus, there is so many hours of tapes showing that we are radically bias that defending ourselves makes us look even more hypocritical and stupid than we realize ….”

This message was payed for by GOPTV……we report ,once in a while.

Sorry to go off topic, but have you seen this?

Long story short, Obama visits the 10th Mountain Division and says this:

First time I saw 10th Mountain Division, you guys were in southern Iraq. When I went back to visit Afghanistan, you guys were the first ones there. I had the great honor of seeing some of you because a comrade of yours, Jared Monti, was the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honor to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously.

There’s one little problem. Jared Monti is quite dead. The living recipient of an Obama awarded Medal of Honor is Sal Giunta.

Who the hell is running this show? How do they screw something like this up? Do they simply not give enough of a shit to briefly fact check the President’s speech to the 10th Mountain Division? WTF is wrong with these people?

Pablo said:
Do they simply not give enough of a shit to briefly fact check the President’s speech to the 10th Mountain Division?

Let’s keep in mind that they only need to look at their own frigging files to sort this one out. Duh.

trollsukasock thinks reporting both sides of a story is “radically biased.” I wonder what it thinks of msdnc?

GuessWhoSuka said:
Hehehehehe…….

Grafx… that you?

Seems like Fixed News has a message for the people these days:

That’s strange… you seem to think it odd that FNC would defend itself from the various groups and people attacking it, yet you don’t complain when folks like MSNBC spend hours upon hours weekly attacking FNC. So it’s FNC’s fault for responding to the attacks and not reporting real stories, but not MSNBC’s fault for attacking FNC and not reporting real stories?

Do I have that correct?

Pablo said:
Sorry to go off topic, but have you seen this?

Long story short, Obama visits the 10th Mountain Division and says this:

There’s one little problem. Jared Monti is quite dead. The living recipient of an Obama awarded Medal of Honor is Sal Giunta.

Who the hell is running this show? How do they screw something like this up? Do they simply not give enough of a shit to briefly fact check the President’s speech to the 10th Mountain Division? WTF is wrong with these people?

Gawd, what a pos.

ImNotBlue said:
Grafx… that you?

Yes, it’s him.

grafx was only one of his many, many names, though.

Is that not unf*ckingbelievable? He might as well have dropped his pants and pinched a loaf on the stage.

Pablo said:
Is that not unf*ckingbelievable? He might as well have dropped his pants and pinched a loaf on the stage.

Actually, that wouldn’t have been as bad as what he did. Has he apologized, yet?

BFD said:
Do you think James O’Keefe should be denied tax exempt status as well as MM and why?

Based upon what I know thus far, no. The high-profile stories about James O’Keefe involve his exposing the unethical behavior of non-profits (Acorn and Planned Parenthood) and public servants (Landrieu). His exposure of the corrupt organization, Acorn, was a great public service. Granted, he is a conservative, exposing the unethical behavior of mostly liberal targets, so that gets liberal panties such as yours in a bunch.

Media Matters, on the other hand, has philosophical differences with a FOR-PROFIT corporation, FoxNews. They attempt to undermine FoxNews — not for committing illegal acts, but for reporting the truth, as FoxNews sees it. They are not saving taxpayer dollars from funding a corrupt organization. They are merely trying to eliminate the only broadcast news source that effectively thwarts their left-wing causes, so they can continue their march to eliminate personal liberties in the greatest country on earth, and elevate George Soros to King of the World.

Pablo said:
Is that not unf*ckingbelievable? He might as well have dropped his pants and pinched a loaf on the stage.

I posted the same article from the DC on a different post on Mediaite. I couldn’t believe the silence on the issue.

WCinWI said:
I posted the same article from the DC on a different post on Mediaite. I couldn’t believe the silence on the issue.

The progs don’t care about our troops. They spit on them after nam and this is the equivalent.

WCinWI said:
I posted the same article from the DC on a different post on Mediaite. I couldn’t believe the silence on the issue.

There’s only one word for it: Incompetent.

Oh, Media Mutters is 100% a political operation. There’s nothing charitable or educational about them. There’s a propaganda factory, and a pretty crappy one at that. There is no reason for them to be tax exempt.

GuessWhoSuka said:
Hehehehehe…….

Seems like Fixed News has a message for the people these days:

“We are GOPTV and we don’t like it when the medias point it out as we are suppose to be “fair and balanced”,but we are too stupid to realize that the more we defend ourselves and attack people on that subject the more we show that we’d rather attack the medias than actually cover some news,reminding people that we are a vindictive conservative organization….plus, there is so many hours of tapes showing that we are radically bias that defending ourselves makes us look even more hypocritical and stupid than we realize ….”

This message was payed for by GOPTV……we report ,once in a while.

People tend to not read semi-literate posts with rambling run-on sentences. But hey, if you get your rocks off doing that, have fun.

WCinWI said:
I posted the same article from the DC on a different post on Mediaite. I couldn’t believe the silence on the issue.

I take it NBC didn’t cover it? I’m sure MSNBC didn’t. I would certainly be surprised if they did.

Pablo said:
There’s only one word for it: Incompetent.

Yet he had time to attend an LGBT fundraiser. Yet he didn’t come out in support of gay marriage. Yet he’s some LGBT god or something. Beyond odd.

slickerwick said:
I take it NBC didn’t cover it? I’m sure MSNBC didn’t. I would certainly be surprised if they did.

Didn’t even think to watch NBC. I watched Greta because I wanted to hear about the Anthony case. I then caught Anderson Cooper stalking himself on the internet and then covering it on The Ridiculist. Anderson is a journalism god too ya know?

AC seems bitter a lot lately. He needs a vacay. CNN needs more female hosts at night. What’s up with the sexism CNN? Geez.

The word is Obummer didn’t have totus. Hence, he “misspoke.”

Ol’ Bill gets a little testy when all the FOX lies are pointed out. LOL

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Agreed Bill, how bout this, when the Catholic Church pays taxes then Media Matters can start paying their fair share. For many including Bill the Catholic, making the Church pay taxes would seem like a horrible idea, but think of the revenue we could generate if the Catholic Church started paying taxes, much more money could be made from that than from Media Matters. Bill if you were an honest guy you would have to admit that the Catholic Church is just as involved in politics as Media Matters, with telling people who to vote for, pulling Communion from potential Presidential candidates, not to mention the Supreme Court has a Catholic majority, when 2/3 of the Supreme Court are Catholic. Bill remember Catholic Answers published their Voters Guide For Serious Catholics in 2004? I don’t even think Media Matters is telling people who to vote for? Okay Bill I am with you on this we need to stop these multi-million dollar operations like Media Matters and the Catholic Church from sucking off the government, there are no free rides in this country!

I mean if you think about it the Pope is just George Soros in a dress.

Ailes: Listen Bill, I got rid of Beck for you, now you do something to get Media Maters off our back.

O’Reilly: I’ll see what I can do Rodger but I’ve already trained my viewers not to accept anything they report.

Ailes: Bullshit Bill! You’re my Top Dog, you need to take this to the next level, think of a campaign that will make it to a larger audience to further discredit them so the sheeple will still buy our product.

O’Reilly: OK Boss, you’re the man, and thanks again for canning Beck, that guy was a real shit stain.

Another reason why Obama was NEVER qualified to be Commander In Chief, yet his incompetence is always ignored by the media.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-flubs-speech-to-troops-by-claiming-dead-soldier-is-alive/

http://www.hapblog.com/2011/06/video-obamas-jared-monti-gaffe.html

Pablo said:
Sorry to go off topic, but have you seen this?

Long story short, Obama visits the 10th Mountain Division and says this:

There’s one little problem. Jared Monti is quite dead. The living recipient of an Obama awarded Medal of Honor is Sal Giunta.

Who the hell is running this show? How do they screw something like this up? Do they simply not give enough of a shit to briefly fact check the President’s speech to the 10th Mountain Division? WTF is wrong with these people?

Sorry to go off topic but have you seen this

Florida poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012

By Marc Caputo | Miami Herald

Beware, Florida Republicans: The tea party movement that swept you into office in 2010 could cost you the next election.

That’s the takeaway message from Republican pollster and consultant Alex Patton, who conducted a recent survey showing that, by a 2:1 ratio, registered Florida voters said the tea party movement did not represent their views.

The sentiment against the tea party is significantly higher among self-described independent voters, who swing elections in Florida and who looked unfavorably on the tea party by 3-to-1, the poll showed. Only Republican voters favored the tea party movement, with 68 percent in support and less than 20 percent opposed.

“There’s a real danger to Republican candidates,” said Patton, a founder of the Gainesville-based War Room Logistics polling firm.

“If, in a primary race statewide, a candidate hugs the tea party too tightly in order to win the primary,” he said, “it significantly causes you issues in a general election.”

But there’s a catch for Republicans: The tea party movement is dear to the base of the GOP. Last year it helped fuel the Republican takeover in the Florida Cabinet as well as the U.S. House. So Republican candidates for president and U.S. Senate are courting the movement to ensure a primary win before they face off against President Obama or Sen. Bill Nelson in the 2012 general election.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/06/23/116321/florida-poll-tea-party-movement.html#ixzz1QBNNKpkL

Sanders Youth said:
Agreed Bill, how bout this, when the Catholic Church pays taxes then Media Matters can start paying their fair share.

Yes, a funny thing the relationship between liberalism and religion. Because really liberalism is everything you accuse religion of being no matter how much you don’t want to admit it. It has all the characteristics.

It’s something that claims on the surface to be a serious philosophy for life but essentially all it is to the brainless masses of followers, is a series of silly superstitions they hold on to make themselves feel better about their astonishingly mediocre lives, with “gods” like Che and Marx for you to worship, and to its leaders it’s just a free meal ticket, a way of coasting through life making minimal effort.

Of course some religions are a lot more dangerous than others.

DavidKramer said:
Thank you, one hypocrite. You want to cut subsidies to corporations you do not like. And keep your pet projects. So you want to force ALL businesses over seas and not address the SPENDING problem. Any other hypocrites?

Not for profit corporations are not taxed. Do you want to change that, or for just those not for profits you don’t like? How about churches, they cost the U.S. billions of dollars in lost tax revenue each year, would you like to end those tax exemptions?

BFD said:
At least O’Reilly admits that Media Matters doing battle with Fox News is a partisan battle because they are a Right-wing organization. You see, if Fox really was fair and balanced then Media Matters exposing them wouldn’t be partisan.But since they are clearly an extension of the Republican party then Media Matters is attacking the GOP, which clearly is partisan of them. By definition Media Matters attacks on Fox can only be considered partisan if Fox is associated with a political party. Bill has sucked himself into a bit of a Catch 22.

No, you have. But feel free to squirm as you try to make your biased comments seem to be fair. Here is a clue, your squirming is obvious, you fairness is non-existent.

Sanders Youth said:
Agreed Bill, how bout this, when the Catholic Church pays taxes then Media Matters can start paying their fair share. For many including Bill the Catholic, making the Church pay taxes would seem like a horrible idea, but think of the revenue we could generate if the Catholic Church started paying taxes, much more money could be made from that than from Media Matters. Bill if you were an honest guy you would have to admit that the Catholic Church is just as involved in politics as Media Matters, with telling people who to vote for, pulling Communion from potential Presidential candidates, not to mention the Supreme Court has a Catholic majority, when 2/3 of the Supreme Court are Catholic. Bill remember Catholic Answers published their Voters Guide For Serious Catholics in 2004? I don’t even think Media Matters is telling people who to vote for? Okay Bill I am with you on this we need to stop these multi-million dollar operations like Media Matters and the Catholic Church from sucking off the government, there are no free rides in this country!

So, which of the other rights in the Bill of Rights do you want to eliminate?

The story about the soldier is so disgraceful, which is of course why the media is spiking the story. Imagine Palin had done it.

What a joke the US MEdia has become. Between abccbsnbccnnmsnbcvnytimes and the rest of the leftist propagandists, not a word of truth comes out of their mouths.

Nothing like making yourself completely irrelevant.

Mediaite never did a story on why NBC took out “Under God” from the pledge, mediaits never did a story about “corpse men”, and now mediaite doesn’t do a story about this outrage and complete embarassment.

I wonder why.

Bwahahahahahahah

Can’t think out of the box, can’t step away from the propaganda. dan, is nothing but just another liberal who doesn’t care about the news, only cares about the propaganda.

Yes Bill and de-fund Sesame Street – glad to see you are working on the important issues of the day.

valkyrie101 said:
Not for profit corporations are not taxed. Do you want to change that, or for just those not for profits you don’t like? How about churches, they cost the U.S. billions of dollars in lost tax revenue each year, would you like to end those tax exemptions?

Fact: You are wacky with the ideas you write. They are a liberal arm attack machine without taxes. Period. You and your cronies again just want to tax all working no matter what so your little group robs the working to give to the non- never want to work bunch. Look what your ahole bunch is attempting now.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/geithner-taxes-small-business-must-rise

donalan said:
Yes Bill and de-fund Sesame Street – glad to see you are working on the important issues of the day.

Yes, a pro-Regime media did little to effect the outcome of 1930′s Germany either!

We must keep the pressure on the GOP to EXPOSE Soros’ entire labrynth of Left-Wing Prpoaganda Outlets, not only Media Matters.

Thelonious Funk said:
How about church’s too.

Fact: There are a few that should be taxed like The Black Theology America is Satan Church Obama went to for 20 years sure.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: You are wacky with the ideas you write. They are a liberal arm attack machine without taxes. Period. You and your cronies again just want to tax all working no matter what so your little group robs the working to give to the non- never want to work bunch. Look what your ahole bunch is attempting now.http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/geithner-taxes-small-business-must-rise

How about, just for those who don’t comply with the terms of their tax-exempt privilege?

BFD said:
I don’t know much about it but I really understand how Media Matters qualifies to be tax exempt. Of course James O’Keefe just got the same deal too so if one is denied then the other should be too. I say let’s deny them both and really open up this can of worms. :)

Fact: Correct no one should get a free ride debt at 14 plus trillion.

Hey GOP, here’s your blatantly Pro-Democratic tax-exempt target list, for starters:

ACLU
NAACP
laRaza
CAIR
SEIU

Black Churches preaching politics from the pulpit – LIKE OBAMA’S REV. WRIGHT CHURCH!

Jackie_Treehorn said:
I give loads to Make A Wish and The Humane Society. Sweet that I won’t have to pay my taxes next year!

Fact: Typical democrat tax everyone else just don’t pay yours like Obama’s complete staff until it was in the News from FOX.

NORBIT Jr. said:
How about, just for those who don’t comply with the terms of their tax-exempt privilege?

Fact: Close them down!

BFD said:
At least O’Reilly admits that Media Matters doing battle with Fox News is a partisan battle because they are a Right-wing organization. You see, if Fox really was fair and balanced then Media Matters exposing them wouldn’t be partisan.But since they are clearly an extension of the Republican party then Media Matters is attacking the GOP, which clearly is partisan of them. By definition Media Matters attacks on Fox can only be considered partisan if Fox is associated with a political party. Bill has sucked himself into a bit of a Catch 22.

Fact: Balanced you decide is showing something the other news groups fail to bring into the light of day. That’s it.

valkyrie101 said:
With respect to any of the for profit corporations you mentioned, goliaths all, liberals seek higher taxation, back to Reagan levels, or if necessary, Eisenhower levels. As for the not for profit corporations you mentioned, or any others, I hardly see how they have any relevence to big business and how big business is taxed. As it is now, leaving money in big busines hands, leaving most of those record profits in their hands, they do not invest in the U.S. but rather, they invest in other countries where they get more bang for the buck in cheap labor no regulation economies. Why not, corporations are trying to make money. Who gets burned in that scenario? The American worker. Who then must take care of the American worker and his family? The U.S. government. Where must the U.S. government get the money to take care of the American worker? From the people making all the profits by cutting the American worker out of the equation – the big corporations. That’s obvious.

Fact: To make money is to be diversified moron. If it takes to spread eggs around to stay profitable under Robin Hood administration I don’t blame them moving money around. Democrats see money then try to find a way to tax it so they can spend it.

ImNotBlue said:
Grafx… that you? That’s strange… you seem to think it odd that FNC would defend itself from the various groups and people attacking it, yet you don’t complain when folks like MSNBC spend hours upon hours weekly attacking FNC. So it’s FNC’s fault for responding to the attacks and not reporting real stories, but not MSNBC’s fault for attacking FNC and not reporting real stories? Do I have that correct?

Fact: That Sorrenson wacko sucka!

NORBIT Jr. said:
Hey GOP, here’s your blatantly Pro-Democratic tax-exempt target list, for starters:

ACLU
NAACP
laRaza
CAIR
SEIU

Black Churches preaching politics from the pulpit – LIKE OBAMA’S REV. WRIGHT CHURCH!

Okay Im with Norbit on this one – lets tax the evil ‘Nazi’ organizations. We could get hundreds of thousands of dollars from his list. The Nazis!

For fun lets throw in some other folks that dont pay taxes, say like General Electric – you know the group that owns half of (gasp) NBC.

Last year the conglomerate generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, but ended up owing nothing to Uncle Sam. In fact, it recorded a tax benefit of $1.1 billion. Now there is some cash (though not nearly as Evil as Sesame Street-the-Nazis).

Oh there are lots others – if we just taxed the top companies the US would recover over $25,000,000,000.00 per year. Lets get em all Norbit!

BTW here is the FORBES article on this http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html

O’Reilly 1 Media Matters 0

Just4thefax said:
Fact: You are wacky with the ideas you write. They are a liberal arm attack machine without taxes. Period. You and your cronies again just want to tax all working no matter what so your little group robs the working to give to the non- never want to work bunch. Look what your ahole bunch is attempting now.http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/geithner-taxes-small-business-must-rise

So you consider tax rates during the Reagan era to be too high? Reagan was overtaxing?

donalan said:
Okay Im with Norbit on this one – lets tax the evil ‘Nazi’ organizations. We could get hundreds of thousands of dollars from his list. The Nazis! For fun lets throw in some other folks that dont pay taxes, say like General Electric – you know the group that owns half of (gasp) NBC. Last year the conglomerate generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, but ended up owing nothing to Uncle Sam. In fact, it recorded a tax benefit of $1.1 billion. Now there is some cash (though not nearly as Evil as Sesame Street-the-Nazis). Oh there are lots others – if we just taxed the top companies the US would recover over $25,000,000,000.00 per year. Lets get em all Norbit! BTW here is the FORBES article on this http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html

Why aren’t they taking the opportunity to abolish this arcane, special-interest driven tax code right now?
They have the public’s support!

BatBoy said:
O’Reilly 1 Media Matters 0

Just by raising this issue and complaining about the media matters scrutiny he gets, Bill gives life to it.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Why aren’t they taking the opportunity to abolish this arcane, special-interest driven tax code right now?They have the public’s support!

It would go after way too many Political doners….like the folks last night who had to pay $35,800 a plate to have dinner with BHO.

$35,800 is chump change when you have tax treatment favorable to your industry or you are a benifactor of hugt government contracts.

To change the tax code would require political will and have all of the lobbiest on board. Since they are the ones writing most of the law, it is never going to happen.

Term limits seem to be the solution, as well as caps on spending, then I am sure there would be more holes.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Hey GOP, here’s your blatantly Pro-Democratic tax-exempt target list, for starters:

ACLU
NAACP
laRaza
CAIR
SEIU

Black Churches preaching politics from the pulpit – LIKE OBAMA’S REV. WRIGHT CHURCH!

Perhaps you didn’t see this. CAIR just had their 501(c)(3) status yanked.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: To make money is to be diversified moron. If it takes to spread eggs around to stay profitable under Robin Hood administration I don’t blame them moving money around. Democrats see money then try to find a way to tax it so they can spend it.

It is not for the purpose of diversity that corporations move manufacturing overseas, it is because it is cheaper to manufacture in places where labor is way low, and there are few pollution regulations. American workers can not compete with a couple dollar a day labor. As it is now, the big corporations are selling our nation to China, and pocketing the profits.

CAIR lost it’s tax exempt status . Many more on list .
Dems. Here’s your chance to raise revenue .

“The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has lost its tax-exempt status from the Internal Revenue Service for failing to file legally required annual reports for three consecutive years, the federal agency said. CAIR is one of 275,000 groups targeted by the IRS for being out of compliance with filing requirements. ”

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44411

Pablo said:
Perhaps you didn’t see this. CAIR just had their 501(c)(3) status yanked.

Pablo,

Just readit.
To paraphrase from that Vietnam movie:
There’s nothing like the smell of Liberal Defeat in the morning.

Here’s s a sage perspective from another thread:

Democrats are all about CONTROL!

They want to control our freedoms for their benefit.

The more autonomy individuals and society assumes, the less control the oppressors in the Democratic Party have.

Keep it simple:

GOP = Personal Responsibility & Autonomy

Democrats = Government Control & Dependency

Getting rid of the Constitution, religion and the traditional family unit is the way Democrats usurp control.

Choose your side!!!

valkyrie101 said:
BatBoy said:
O’Reilly 1 Media Matters 0

Just by raising this issue and complaining about the media matters scrutiny he gets, Bill gives life to it.

Yes and that is a good thing!

For the first time MM is playing Defense, something they are not use to. It should be interesting to watch.

valkyrie101 said:
So you consider tax rates during the Reagan era to be too high? Reagan was overtaxing?

Fact: Revise tax code first. Cut spending on entitlements big time second. Cut propping up foreign countries with welfare. Promote business incentives for US products made in America on consumer and manufacture both see the benefits like Reagan’s capital gains plus others. Then tax increase in stages just like Reagan when economy is moving ahead to adjust out inflation just like Reagan. Reagan economy moved so fast with income it was able to balance out in Clinton era thanks to Reagan. Goin Tea Party and see the light in 2012.

valkyrie101 said:
American workers can not compete with a couple dollar a day labor. As it is now, the big corporations are selling our nation to China, and pocketing the profits.

They why does our govenment insist on raising taxes on an already one of the highest business tax rate?

valkyrie101 said:
It is not for the purpose of diversity that corporations move manufacturing overseas, it is because it is cheaper to manufacture in places where labor is way low, and there are few pollution regulations. American workers can not compete with a couple dollar a day labor. As it is now, the big corporations are selling our nation to China, and pocketing the profits.

Fact: Lot of good points that the democrats over regulated them right out of America and into China where the environment is ripe for non- taxing to death on manufacturing goods. No Global warming tariffs for a non issue in the future. No EPA killing the bottom line no democrat lawyer-ed up lawsuits and no licking their lips democrat politicians looking into taxing them out of business. Get a job join the fun.

rob2385 said:
Yes, a funny thing the relationship between liberalism and religion. Because really liberalism is everything you accuse religion of being no matter how much you don’t want to admit it. It has all the characteristics.

It’s something that claims on the surface to be a serious philosophy for life but essentially all it is to the brainless masses of followers, is a series of silly superstitions they hold on to make themselves feel better about their astonishingly mediocre lives, with “gods” like Che and Marx for you to worship, and to its leaders it’s just a free meal ticket, a way of coasting through life making minimal effort.

Of course some religions are a lot more dangerous than others.

Another awesome drinking game is the one where a teabagger manages to squeeze in Che and Marx in their argument, drink drank drunk who woulda thunk.

RichS said:
So, which of the other rights in the Bill of Rights do you want to eliminate?

The one that allows you access to a computer.

BatBoy said:
O’Reilly 1 Media Matters 0

Admitting to using a vibrator 1 O’Reilly 0

Sanders Youth said:
Another awesome drinking game is the one where a teabagger manages to squeeze in Che and Marx in their argument, drink drank drunk who woulda thunk.

That one’s a lot more fun than the one where a socialist manages to squeeze them into our government.

valkyrie101 said:
It is not for the purpose of diversity that corporations move manufacturing overseas, it is because it is cheaper to manufacture in places where labor is way low, and there are few pollution regulations. American workers can not compete with a couple dollar a day labor. As it is now, the big corporations are selling our nation to China, and pocketing the profits.

So that’s why GE is building a green economy in China. Do you suppose Obama and Jeff Immelt ever chat about that when they’re not giggling about what bullshit the shovel-ready jobs story was?

Poor Bill-o. “They” are after him.

Pablo said:
NORBIT Jr. said:
Hey GOP, here’s your blatantly Pro-Democratic tax-exempt target list, for starters:

ACLU
NAACP
laRaza
CAIR
SEIU

Black Churches preaching politics from the pulpit – LIKE OBAMA’S REV. WRIGHT CHURCH!

Perhaps you didn’t see this. CAIR just had their 501(c)(3) status yanked.

So , the two of you are saying yank the tax exempt status on African American churches, but continue it with Honkie churches?

NORBIT Jr. said:
Why aren’t they taking the opportunity to abolish this arcane, special-interest driven tax code right now?
They have the public’s support!

Why? You think President Obama is any different than President Bush? I AGREE 100% with my conservative friends commenting here that they should abolish these arcane tax breaks for huge corporations. I agree the reason they do not is that All the politicians are bought and paid for.

So long as they have Conservatives hating Liberals and vice versa they can rob us all blind – that is the game.

One thing is for sure. O’Reilly has MM on the run.

When you are on the run, it is pretty hard to play offense when you are looking over your shoulder.

MM deserves everything they get.

Sanders Youth said:
Another awesome drinking game is the one where a teabagger manages to squeeze in Che and Marx in their argument, drink drank drunk who woulda thunk.

Fact: Huh?

BatBoy said:
Yes and that is a good thing! For the first time MM is playing Defense, something they are not use to. It should be interesting to watch.

You think there has not been scrutiny of MM before? Like this is the first time Bill or someone else has thought about going after its tax exempt status? But it is way odd that Bill, a media pundit who has been under MM’s scrutiny, and who does not like that, should be calling for to silence it. Surely Bill could have got the Donald to step in on this so it would not look so self serving.

Pablo said:
That one’s a lot more fun than the one where a socialist manages to squeeze them into our government.

The last time I saw a politician trying to squeeze Socialism into government function it was John McCain during the last Presidental debate in 2008 saying when he was President he was going to buy up all the bad mortgages. What a Socialist he is!

King, what is a Honkie church? Surely you’re not using a racial smear.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
So , the two of you are saying yank the tax exempt status on African American churches, but continue it with Honkie churches?

They are such racists they don’t even know when they are revealing it to the world. Sad.

THE REAL RABID KOOK said:
So , the two of you are saying yank the tax exempt status on African American churches, but continue it with Honkie churches?

No, I didn’t say anything about churches. My comment was entirely about CAIR. Are you having eye trouble, Kook?

Pablo said:
That one’s a lot more fun than the one where a socialist manages to squeeze them into our government.

You voted for a Socialist?

Sanders Youth said:
They are such racists they don’t even know when they are revealing it to the world. Sad.

You are so stupid that you don’t even know when you’re revealing it to the world, which happens whenever you commit your thoughts to writing and put them on the internet.

Sanders Youth said:
You voted for a Socialist?

Does Hillary count?

valkyrie101 said:
should be calling for to silence it

He is not calling to silence it, just to get them off the government gravy train.

I think they should tax the hell out of the King’s church. It’s obviously not doing him any good going there.

Pablo said:
So that’s why GE is building a green economy in China. Do you suppose Obama and Jeff Immelt ever chat about that when they’re not giggling about what bullshit the shovel-ready jobs story was?

I could care less which corporation it is, if they are not producing jobs in the U.S. they deserve no tax credit. Its time we reward the corporations that produce US jobs, not those that export them to other countries. Well, I have nothing against helping the other countries, as long as the powers that be understand that they can not just pass the economic burden for that on to the U.S. worker and pocket the profits.

BatBoy said:
He is not calling to silence it, just to get them off the government gravy train.

How convenient that Bill is making that argument since MM has been on his butt for a long time. Government gravy train? Does MM get subsidized by the government? They pay no taxes and accept tax free donations from willing donors, but that is exactly what churches do. Are you suggesting that the federal government is subsidizing Churches?

valkyrie101 said:
They pay no taxes and accept tax free donations from willing donors, but that is exactly what churches do.

Are you saying that MM is a religion? That people follow their word like religious doctrine?

Over the last decade News Corp (Fox’s parent company) hasn’t had to pay taxes numerous times either, just like GE.

There are many conservative organizations such as Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS and OKeefe’s group that receie tax exempt status but soley exist to attack one party.

ImNotBlue said:
Are you saying that MM is a religion? That people follow their word like religious doctrine?

I am. George Soros is my God and he will crush the non-believers!

George Soros is God, Saul Alinsky is the Pope, Frances Fox Piven is the Virgin Mary, Bill Ayers is the high priest and the New Black Panthers are the congregation. Prepare Ye The Way Of The Lord!

Chutzpah Award for Falafel Bill O’Reilly, calling Media Matters “assassins” when he helped incite the murder of Dr. George Tiller.

ImNotBlue said:
Are you saying that MM is a religion? That people follow their word like religious doctrine?

Yes, take me to your leader.

ImNotBlue said:
Are you saying that MM is a religion? That people follow their word like religious doctrine?

Your confusing media matters and the Washington Times.

valkyrie101 said:
Your confusing media matters and the Washington Times.

I dont think ImNot will get it but that one was funny val…

writer said:
I think they should tax the hell out of the King’s church. It’s obviously not doing him any good going there.

Just try it, WrLter. If you think being chased down the street by roving, random gangs of African-Americans is a bad experience, just wait for the Popemobile to run you over with the world’s 1 Billion RC’s in hot pursuit. That Popemobile is some monster car, and we RC’s have very powerful joints from all of that genuflecting and kneeling.

donalan said:
valkyrie101 said:
Your confusing media matters and the Washington Times.

I dont think ImNot will get it but that one was funny val…

I got it.

And, it is funny.

ImNotBlue said:
Are you saying that MM is a religion? That people follow their word like religious doctrine?

For dumbass leftists it is a religion, and a hateful one.

King, according to those crime stats I gave you, lots of people are being ‘chased’.

Azarkhan said:
For dumbass leftists it is a religion, and a hateful one.

Dude, 90% of what http://www.mediamatters.org does is publish transcripts and audio/video tapes of what media people actually say. Its real hard to fudge that. Bill doesn’t like MM because they call him out. Simple as that.

writer said:
King, according to those crime stats I gave you, lots of people are being ‘chased’.

You keep talking about those crime statistics, but I have yet to see any indication you were ever chased, let alone thrice daily. Did you ever report these episodes?

valkyrie101 said:
Dude, 90% of what http://www.mediamatters.org does is publish transcripts and audio/video tapes of what media people actually say. Its real hard to fudge that. Bill doesn’t like MM because they call him out. Simple as that.

illegal is a loaded word at media matters lol

valkyrie101 said:
Dude,

Dude, Media Matters is a lapdog for the Obama regime that opposes free speech (i.e., Fox News) and is run by left wing hacks. Get over it.

King, I never said I was ‘chased’. You came up with that one. I merely said that blacks in my inner city school carried out racial violence. But since you went to all white private schools, of course you know more about it.

valkyrie101 said:
They pay no taxes and accept tax free donations from willing donors, but that is exactly what churches do. Are you suggesting that the federal government is subsidizing Churches?

Are you familiar with the concept of separation of church and state?

Jelperman said:
Chutzpah Award for Falafel Bill O’Reilly, calling Media Matters “assassins” when he helped incite the murder of Dr. George Tiller.

And Al Gore almost got people killed at the Discovery Channel… right?

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, take me to your leader.

Look, I’m asking a question based on your statement. Do you not want to answer, or do you not like the answer?

donalan said:
I dont think ImNot will get it but that one was funny val…

You’re right… I don’t… explain it to me.

valkyrie101 said:
Dude, 90% of what http://www.mediamatters.org does is publish transcripts and audio/video tapes of what media people actually say. Its real hard to fudge that. Bill doesn’t like MM because they call him out. Simple as that.

So despite the founder saying he’s got a war on FOX:

“The strategy that we had had toward Fox was basically a strategy of containment,” said Brock, Media Matters’ chairman and founder and a former conservative journalist, adding that the group’s main aim had been to challenge the factual claims of the channel and to attempt to prevent them from reaching the mainstream media.

The new strategy, he said, is a “war on Fox.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51949.html#ixzz1QCeiljXj

You believe they just “happen” to be talking about FOX? Seriously?

cjd ohio 1 said:
illegal is a loaded word at media matters lol

I guess. Are they violating the law? If not, well, of course I am going to defend MM, I am a card carrying member of the ACLU.

valkyrie101 said:
I guess. Are they violating the law? If not, well, of course I am going to defend MM, I am a card carrying member of the ACLU.

Then why don’t you spend more time defending FNC? Isn’t that a similar situation?

writer said:
King, I never said I was ‘chased’. You came up with that one. I merely said that blacks in my inner city school carried out racial violence. But since you went to all white private schools, of course you know more about it.

In other words, you never filed a report.

valkyrie101 said:
I guess. Are they violating the law? If not, well, of course I am going to defend MM, I am a card carrying member of the ACLU.

illegal is a loaded word in immigration, bullshit , media matters, their first story

Jelperman said:
Chutzpah Award for Falafel Bill O’Reilly, calling Media Matters “assassins” when he helped incite the murder of Dr. George Tiller.

Handling fetal remains can be especially difficult in late-term clinics. Until George Tiller was assassinated by a pro-life radical last summer, his clinic in Wichita specialized in third-trimester abortions. To handle the large volume of biological waste Tiller had a crematorium on the premises. One day when hauling a heavy container of fetal waste, Tiller asked his secretary, Luhra Tivis, to assist him. She found the experience devastating. The “most horrible thing,” Tivis later recounted, was that she “could smell those babies burning.” Tivis, a former NOW activist, soon left her secretarial position at the clinic to volunteer for Operation Rescue, a radical pro-life organization.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/mugged-ultrasound?page=2

So George Tiller is a hero of yours? Pathetic.

valkyrie101 said:
I am a card carrying member of the ACLU.

Moi aussi.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
In other words, you never filed a report.

Writer… it might be time to bail on this line of communication with King. He’s got his fingers in his ears, his eyes shut tight, and is saying “LALALALA… I CAN’T HEAR YOU” to everything you say.

He’s taking parts of your story, and making up other parts to fit his ideological needs. It’s dishonest, unethical, and immature… but par for the course with Royal.

Face it… the guy doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude or morality (no matter what religion he pretends to be a part of) to be honest. And aside form exposing him as a fool… again… I’m not sure it’s worth your effort.

valkyrie101 said:
I am a card carrying member of the ACLU.

That partially explains your ignorance.

ImNotBlue said:
And Al Gore almost got people killed at the Discovery Channel… right? Look, I’m asking a question based on your statement. Do you not want to answer, or do you not like the answer? You’re right… I don’t… explain it to me. So despite the founder saying he’s got a war on FOX: You believe they just “happen” to be talking about FOX? Seriously?

FOX is the death panel network, why not? And almost single handedly Fox has the republican party on the ropes.

MM believes that Fox is unethical and even “evil” in the loaded way in which they present the news. So MM see’s itself as a media/consumer watchdog, there to alert the public to what the nefarious Fox is doing. Is that educational? Does that violate its non-profit status? Fox does not represent the right, afterall, and is completely balanced so how could going after Fox be partisan?

King, I’ve never been to a Catholic church, but you have. So if I said I know more about being a Catholic than you do, that would sound silly. Right? Yet you went to all white private schools, and somehow became an expert on race relations in inner city schools. What a guy!

ImNotBlue said:
Writer… it might be time to bail on this line of communication with King. He’s got his fingers in his ears, his eyes shut tight, and is saying “LALALALA… I CAN’T HEAR YOU” to everything you say.

He’s taking parts of your story, and making up other parts to fit his ideological needs. It’s dishonest, unethical, and immature… but par for the course with Royal.

Face it… the guy doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude or morality (no matter what religion he pretends to be a part of) to be honest. And aside form exposing him as a fool… again… I’m not sure it’s worth your effort.

You need a Bean-o. Now.

valkyrie101 said:
FOX is the death panel network, why not? And almost single handedly Fox has the republican party on the ropes. MM believes that Fox is unethical and even “evil” in the loaded way in which they present the news. So MM see’s itself as a media/consumer watchdog, there to alert the public to what the nefarious Fox is doing. Is that educational? Does that violate its non-profit status? Fox does not represent the right, afterall, and is completely balanced so how could going after Fox be partisan?

and what other networks does the non-partisan media matters go after?

Azarkhan said:
That partially explains your ignorance.

Cub fan too.

valkyrie101 said:
Cub fan too.

I won’t hold that against you.

valkyrie101 said:
FOX is the death panel network, why not? And almost single handedly Fox has the republican party on the ropes.

What does the “death panel network” mean? The network that reported that story correctly, and investigated the health care legislation, while the other networks just nodded in approval? Is that a bad thing? Is that what you and MM are complaining about?

MM believes that Fox is unethical and even “evil” in the loaded way in which they present the news.

And visa versa.

So MM see’s itself as a media/consumer watchdog, there to alert the public to what the nefarious Fox is doing. Is that educational?

It depends. Are their attacks honest? The answer is a very obvious, “No.” They have been caught misleading, falsifying, and outright lying about FNC.

Does that violate its non-profit status?

When they’re for limiting free speech, encouraging one line of thought, and declaring war on one network… yes. They are no longer a “media watchdog” as they claim, they are an “anti-FOX” watchdog. Their words.

Fox does not represent the right, afterall, and is completely balanced so how could going after Fox be partisan?

So you believe that if a partisan group like MM declares war on a network, it means that that network MUST be biased, otherwise why would MM go after it? Seriously? So that means that when Newhounds goes after the nightly news, the nightly news MUST be biased, otherwise why would a group like that go after them? Is that what you really think?

FNC does a better job than the other networks of including voices from both sides of aisle. MM dislikes that. They’re fighting for ONE view point, and to silence all others. That is the problem, and why they should lose their status. MM attacking FNC doesn’t necessarily say anything about FNC’s bias… only that they don’t fit into the very limited window that MM allows. And frankly, I’d be more concerned about what it means if MM doesn’t attack a network or a newscast. Does that mean that they’re upholding the standards of their far-left organization? Is that good journalism?

Oops… meant “NewsBusters,” not “Newhounds.” Although, I suppose both work in my example.

Recently, the federal government has been recording budget deficits that are the largest as a share of the economy since 1945. Consequently, the amount of federal debt held by the public has surged. At the end of 2008, that debt equaled 40 percent of the nation’s annual economic output (a little above the 40-year average of 37 percent). Since then, the figure has shot upward: By the end of this year, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects, federal debt will reach roughly 70 percent of gross domestic product (GDP)—the highest percentage since shortly after World War II. The sharp rise in debt stems partly from lower tax revenues and higher federal spending related to the recent severe recession. However, the growing debt also reflects an imbalance between spending and revenues that predated the recession.

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12212

I’m sure that somewhere on their website, Obama’s lapdogs at Media Matters have attacked the CBO for releasing this report.

writer said:
King, I’ve never been to a Catholic church, but you have. So if I said I know more about being a Catholic than you do, that would sound silly. Right? Yet you went to all white private schools, and somehow became an expert on race relations in inner city schools. What a guy!

Yes, I was blessed with a wonderful education, and because I never wasted any time being chased by marauding gangs of African-Americans, I had more time for studies. Moreover, you are haunted by a time of selective historical paranoia which makes your objectivity suspect. So, yes, I have a better handle on this matter.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
You need a Bean-o. Now.

Thank you. Your concern for my health is appreciated.

Of course, since you can’t refute anything I wrote, I’ll take it that you agree.

Or perhaps I should go with the favorite, “Looks like I touched a nerve,” line.

ImNotBlue said:
Oops… meant “NewsBusters,” not “Newhounds.”

Yes, NewsHounds is primary topic of discussion at the Koldy’s PHOX Phan Klub.

So King, all those DOJ and FBI crimes stats proving that blacks do indeed commit racial crimes are all made up by people who are having delusions of being ‘chased’. Man, are you stupid!

ImNotBlue said:
I’ll take it that you agree.

You may take it with two generic aspirin and a bottle of tepid, cheap Andre Cold Duck for all I care.

media matters has tax-exempt status, that’s insane. Definitely remove the status, but if MM purposefully lied about it’s status, that’s tax fraud.

writer said:
So King, all those DOJ and FBI crimes stats proving that blacks do indeed commit racial crimes are all made up by people who are having delusions of being ‘chased’. Man, are you stupid!

We can move on to this question once you produce evidence that roving African Americans pursued you on a regular basis. Until that time, I suspect you are at an impasse. And, more’s the pity.

Facts and actual data don’t matter to the King. He’s given us his opinion on things, and that’s all that counts.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Yes, I was blessed with a wonderful education, and because I never wasted any time being chased by marauding gangs of African-Americans, I had more time for studies. Moreover, you are haunted by a time of selective historical paranoia which makes your objectivity suspect. So, yes, I have a better handle on this matter.

In other words… you’re making a bunch of assumptions based on theories and your own imagination. You never went to a public school, you’ve never seen gang violence, you’ve never met someone who wasn’t just like you. And yet, you feel superior to everyone else… despite their experiences.

My school, good as it was, had a big problem with gang violence. You couldn’t wear certain colored hats, unless you were prepared to get beaten. Bloods, Crips, and Latin Kings aren’t just “stories” people talk about… they are real, and they would beat your a$$ for not being one of them.

To Royal… they’re just stories he hears about on “Law & Order.” But in real life, it’s much different. Of course, “real life” and Royal’s imagination have very little in common.

cjd ohio 1 said:
and what other networks does the non-partisan media matters go after?

They seem to specialize in going after right leaning media, but they occasionally hit up the left. That’s what it seems like, anyway. Though I am not sure if it matters as far as maintaining their not for profit status goes. With FOX, though, MM has no worries with partisanship because Fox is balanced in its non-partisan journalistic malfeasence. Thus, it really is impossible to be partisan when attacking a non-partisan media person like Bill.

King, since you never went to an inner city school, prove that such things don’t happen.

valkyrie101 said:
MM believes that Fox is unethical and even “evil” in the loaded way in which they present the news. So MM see’s itself as a media/consumer watchdog, there to alert the public to what the nefarious Fox is doing. Is that educational? Does that violate its non-profit status?

Should Fox be tax-exempt? They’re passing information along, and constantly educating people about current affairs.

writer said:
So King, all those DOJ and FBI crimes stats proving that blacks do indeed commit racial crimes are all made up by people who are having delusions of being ‘chased’. Man, are you stupid!

Why do you argue with The Real Royal Queen about race? Queen’s nose has been stuck in a black a@@hole since the 60′s. She’s not yanking it out anytime soon.

ImNotBlue said:
Then why don’t you spend more time defending FNC? Isn’t that a similar situation?

What situation?

Sanders Youth said:
George Soros is God, Saul Alinsky is the Pope, Frances Fox Piven is the Virgin Mary, Bill Ayers is the high priest and the New Black Panthers are the congregation. Prepare Ye The Way Of The Lord!

Fact: N-please what dope are you on?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Yes, NewsHounds is primary topic of discussion at the Koldy’s PHOX Phan Klub.

Really? How much of that site do you read? And why?

And why have I asked you that question over and over again (and to prove that I’m a member there), and yet you’ve continue to dodge it? Can’t answer Royal? Why not?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
You may take it with two generic aspirin and a bottle of tepid, cheap Andre Cold Duck for all I care.

*WOOSH*

That was the sound of you dodging… again. What are you so afraid of?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
We can move on to this question once you produce evidence that roving African Americans pursued you on a regular basis. Until that time, I suspect you are at an impasse. And, more’s the pity.

Can you prove that was ever the claim… that Writer was ever pursued by roving gangs?

valkyrie101 said:
What situation?

You’re defending MM for passing along information… even though it’s biased. Yet attacking FNC, for what you see as bias. Why don’t you defend FNC, like you defend MM?

valkyrie101 said:
They seem to specialize in going after right leaning media, .

valkyrie101 said:
, MM has no worries with partisanship because Fox is balanced in its non-partisan journalistic malfeasence. Thus, it really is impossible to be partisan when attacking a non-partisan media person like Bill.

so is media matters partisan or not?

Azarkhan said:
Why do you argue with The Real Royal Queen about race? Queen’s nose has been stuck in a black a@@hole since the 60’s. She’s not yanking it out anytime soon.

Oh, did Kook make up with armwood? That’s really sweet.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
We can move on to this question once you produce evidence that roving African Americans pursued you on a regular basis. Until that time, I suspect you are at an impasse. And, more’s the pity.

Writer,
Wait til he produces the evidence of gun-toting homicidal maniacs terrorizing the freeways in Austin every time it’s hot.

Pablo said:
Should Fox be tax-exempt? They’re passing information along, and constantly educating people about current affairs.

Look, I have not seen MM’s incorporation documents or its paperwork for tax exempt status with the IRS. But non-profits are given quite a bit of latitude with regard to what they can educate about. The main thing is that they can receive tax exempt donations but must use them in furtherance of the not for profit purpose. Fox pays Bill O’Reilly something like 20 million a year. That would probably not be permitted if Fox was a not for profit. Also, unlike MM, Fox is actually running a business where they sell stuff.

cjd ohio 1 said:
so is media matters partisan or not?

If you mean in a republican or democrat sense, no. But in a political orientation sense, yes, since the people who run MM are definitely progressive liberals. IMHO.

valkyrie101 said:
. Also, unlike MM, Fox is actually running a business where they sell stuff.

media matters sells stuff too

ImNotBlue said:
THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Yes, NewsHounds is primary topic of discussion at the Koldy’s PHOX Phan Klub.

How much of that site do you read? And why? #1 BELOW

And why have I asked you that question over and over again (and to prove that I’m a member there), and yet you’ve continue to dodge it? Can’t answer Royal? Why not? #2 BELOW

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
You may take it with two generic aspirin and a bottle of tepid, cheap Andre Cold Duck for all I care.

*WOOSH*

That was the sound of you dodging… again. What are you so afraid of? #3

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
We can move on to this question once you produce evidence that roving African Americans pursued you on a regular basis. Until that time, I suspect you are at an impasse. And, more’s the pity.

Can you prove that was ever the claim… that Writer was ever pursued by roving gangs? #4

#1 So I’ll know what instructions Sammons has given out for the day to his employees and toadies.

#2 My purpose in life is not to make your life easier.

#3 Fear itself. Fortunately, I’m not to the rightist happen of standing in deepening pools of my own urine as I see men in turbans behind bushes, African-American men on the straight, Hispanic men in the desert &c &c. So, I am pretty fearless.

#4 Dr. Joyce Brothers has long taught not to enable paranoiacs. I don’t do so.

Now, you’re really boring me again, so I’m cutting you off once again until Monday.

valkyrie101 said:
If you mean in a republican or democrat sense, no. But in a political orientation sense, yes, since the people who run MM are definitely progressive liberals. IMHO.

double talk, come on val

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Writer,
Wait til he produces the evidence of gun-toting homicidal maniacs terrorizing the freeways in Austin every time it’s hot.

Lying again, Michelle-in-Utah. I never said that happened in Austin, but I specifically said it happened in Dallas and Houston. But, your propensity for lying has allowed me to understand how something like the Mormon Massacre of men, women, women bearing children, children and infants happened and how it has been accepted by those who must be obeyed in SLC.

Media Matters does not have a leg to stand on in this argument.
To enjoy tax exempt status, the IRS says that you cannot support one party or one person over another. You cannot use inflammatory language, You cannot advocate statements of position unsubstantiated by fact. You cannot support the restriction of free speech. Basically, the IRS says that the stated intentions of an organization like Media Matters to interfere with other people’s rights is strictly out of bounds in order to have tax free status.
Someone had better take up O’Reilly’s request to get Media Matters tax exempt status removed. I don’t understand why the management at FOX isn’t addressing this more aggressively. Perhaps a petition from the public is in order.

ImNotBlue said:
You’re defending MM for passing along information… even though it’s biased. Yet attacking FNC, for what you see as bias. Why don’t you defend FNC, like you defend MM?

I do defend FOX, regularly, because Fox is important. I honestly believe we would be in serious trouble, without Fox News, in fact. I also like and appreciate Bill. But I don’t think that MM is trying to silence Fox or doing anything inappropriate. I rarely have any problem with people talking, giving speeches, or presenting information (even what some may call “biased” information) in a free society.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Lying again, Michelle-in-Utah. I never said that happened in Austin, but I specifically said it happened in Dallas and Houston. But, your propensity for lying has allowed me to understand how something like the Mormon Massacre of men, women, women bearing children, children and infants happened and how it has been accepted by those who must be obeyed in SLC.

wow, you are a religious bigot

Azarkhan, kindly take your straw man, wrap it around your red herring and stick them up your bunghole.

I never said Tiller was a hero. He could have been a total scumbag, but that doesn’t excuse the assassin who murdered him in cold blood. It also doesn’t excuse Falafel O’Reilly for helping to incite the murder. The fact that O’Reilly would call anyone an “assassin” just for making fun of him and the other mouth-breathers at Faux News, when Falafel Boy incited a real assassin to kill George Tiller if more than just hypocrisy and chutzpah, it shows he has a diseased mind.

cjd ohio 1 said:
double talk, come on val

Do you think that being conservative and being republican mean the same thing?

valkyrie101 said:
Do you think that being conservative and being republican mean the same thing?

nope

cjd ohio 1 said:
so is media matters partisan or not?

The only way Media Matters could be considered partisan is if Fox News is in fact an arm of the Republican Party, since Media Matters attacks Fox News.

Jelperman said:
The only way Media Matters could be considered partisan is if Fox News is in fact an arm of the Republican Party, since Media Matters attacks Fox News.

lol, see you think fox is fair and balanced, just like media matters, good to know

cjd ohio 1 said:
media matters sells stuff too

Perhaps, quite a few not for profits do sell or use items to raise funds, but selling stuff can not be your primary purpose. Clearly MM is not about making money since they need millions from Soros to keep their doors open, apparently.

cjd ohio 1 said:
nope

So I really was not just splitting hairs or engaging in double talk with my prior post.

Azarkhan said:
Dude, Media Matters is a lapdog for the Obama regime that opposes free speech (i.e., Fox News) and is run by left wing hacks. Get over it.

Fox News is a 24/7 mouthpiece for the Republican Party and you guys get your panties twisted over a website? Aren’t the Libtards allowed some table scraps or do you fat asses want it all for yourself?

The King’s view of life is simple. If he hasn’t experienced something, then no one else has either. For example, if the King has never flown on the space shuttle, that would mean the space shuttle doesn’t exist.

Sanders Youth said:
The one that allows you access to a computer.

Yep, I knew that. Liberals don’t much like free speech unless its speech that agrees with them.

Sanders Youth said:
Fox News is a 24/7 mouthpiece for the Republican Party

And that is all well and good, but Conservatives need at least 2 more networks to make up for the inequality and left wing bias in the media. You can keep CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CCN. Give us ABC and PBS and we’ll call it even.

Jelperman said:
The only way Media Matters could be considered partisan is if Fox News is in fact an arm of the Republican Party, since Media Matters attacks Fox News.

Looks like all the libbies got the same talking point.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Lying again, Michelle-in-Utah. I never said that happened in Austin, but I specifically said it happened in Dallas and Houston. But, your propensity for lying has allowed me to understand how something like the Mormon Massacre of men, women, women bearing children, children and infants happened and how it has been accepted by those who must be obeyed in SLC.

As I’ve said in the past, I know when you’ve lost an argument because you bring up Mountain Meadow. You are nothign if not predictable, Royal Dimwit.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
#1 So I’ll know what instructions Sammons has given out for the day to his employees and toadies.

Really? What have you learned so far? What is the most recent email that Sammon has sent out, that you now know about from reading J$?

#2 My purpose in life is not to make your life easier.

No, of course not. However, if you make a claim (as you have), don’t you think you have a responsibility to support it or prove it? It’s not “making my life easier,” it’s making your claim more substantial. Don’t you request people prove their statements (aren’t you doing that with Writer now… although, lying about what he said in the first place)? Is my request so unreasonable?

#3 Fear itself. Fortunately, I’m not to the rightist happen of standing in deepening pools of my own urine as I see men in turbans behind bushes, African-American men on the straight, Hispanic men in the desert &c &c. So, I am pretty fearless.

Except when it comes to answering questions, defending your ideas, or proving your statements. Got it.

#4 Dr. Joyce Brothers has long taught not to enable paranoiacs. I don’t do so.

So you make comments and respond to “paranoiacs,” but refuse to actually prove basic parts of your claims? Really? You claim Writer said something, but refuse to prove it because he/I/we are “paranoiacs?”

Wow. That’s pretty insane… even for you.

Now, you’re really boring me again, so I’m cutting you off once again until Monday.

Yes, Royal. Run away… just like you’ve done time and time again. At least you’re consistent.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Lying again, Michelle-in-Utah. I never said that happened in Austin, but I specifically said it happened in Dallas and Houston. But, your propensity for lying…

It’s comments like this that really expose who Royal is. He complains that someone else is saying something he didn’t say… and yet, he’ll turn around and do the exact same thing to Writer. Either he is a really impressive liar, or (as has been said) a sociopath… who only sees the (alleged) bad behavior in everyone else, but can’t for a moment see himself. Really interesting psychological stuff here.

valkyrie101 said:
I do defend FOX, regularly, because Fox is important.

Really? I must have missed those moments. Funny how that happens.

I honestly believe we would be in serious trouble, without Fox News, in fact.

How so?

But I don’t think that MM is trying to silence Fox or doing anything inappropriate.

So how do you define “declaring war against FOX?” What do you think Brock meant?

I rarely have any problem with people talking, giving speeches, or presenting information (even what some may call “biased” information) in a free society.

And yet, you support MM’s claim that FNC is “evil.” Why would you support a group which clearly has a problem with FNC “talking, giving speeches, or presenting information.” Don’t their actions go against yours in a pretty fundamental way?

Jelperman said:
The only way Media Matters could be considered partisan is if Fox News is in fact an arm of the Republican Party, since Media Matters attacks Fox News.

Why? Do you feel the same way about NewsBusters? If they attack the ABC Nightly News, the only way NewsBusters could be “partisan” is if ABC is actually biased? Is that what you really think?

Sanders Youth said:
Fox News is a 24/7 mouthpiece for the Republican Party and you guys get your panties twisted over a website? Aren’t the Libtards allowed some table scraps or do you fat asses want it all for yourself?

Want it all? There is one network which isn’t overtly rude to right-of-center thought… and that’s one too many for the left. And you think all they get is “table scraps?” Are you kidding me?

INB, good point. The King says I said something I never said, then asks me to prove it. He’s a funny guy.

INB says:

It’s comments like this that really expose who Royal is. He complains that someone else is saying something he didn’t say… and yet, he’ll turn around and do the exact same thing to Writer. Either he is a really impressive liar, or (as has been said) a sociopath… who only sees the (alleged) bad behavior in everyone else, but can’t for a moment see himself. Really interesting psychological stuff here.

Except he DID say what I accused him of. I leave the lying to the experts, like King.

LT, if he’s going to keep throwing Mountain Meadow at you, I guess you could bring up the Spanish Inquistion, like Monty Python used to do. “No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!”

Azarkhan said:
Dude, Media Matters is a lapdog for the Obama regime that opposes free speech (i.e., Fox News) and is run by left wing hacks. Get over it.

Calling out someone for their speech is different than seeking to stop someone from speaking.

valkyrie101 said:
Calling out someone for their speech is different than seeking to stop someone from speaking.

Is that what “declaring war” means to you? And let’s not forget the White House’s “declared war” on FNC from a while ago.

valk, hasn’t Media Matters called for boycotts on people they disagree with? Isn’t that trying to stop free speech?

ImNotBlue said:
Valk: “I rarely have any problem with people talking, giving speeches, or presenting information (even what some may call “biased” information) in a free society.”

Blue: “And yet, you support MM’s claim that FNC is “evil.” Why would you support a group which clearly has a problem with FNC “talking, giving speeches, or presenting information.” Don’t their actions go against yours in a pretty fundamental way?

In our free society, we permit people to consider others to be “evil”, and we even let them say that if they want. Fox is important because it provides a voice to a large group of people who would likely not have a voice without Fox. To the extent that MM seeks to silence that voice, I would object. To the extent that MM seeks to counter that voice with their own speech, I do not object.

valkyrie101 said:
Government gravy train? Does MM get subsidized by the government? They pay no taxes

The Govenment Gravey Train does incluce paying no taxes. They are in business only to destroy Fox and conservatives.

As I understand it, their initial application was not slanted only to Fox…but it has turned out that way. They change, we can demand changes too.

MM start paying taxes like the rest of us.

valkyrie101 said:
To the extent that MM seeks to silence that voice, I would object. To the extent that MM seeks to counter that voice with their own speech, I do not object.

Is there a different (to you) between seeing to “silence” that voice, and seeking to not provide that voice with an outlet with which to speak from?

IOW, I don’t necessarily see much of the MSM trying to actively “silence” conservative thought, rather they just don’t give it the same time, respect, or attention that they give to other points of view.

valkyrie101 said:
Calling out someone for their speech is different than seeking to stop someone from speaking

You forget about the boycotts launched by Media Matters and their Democratic allies in the White House and Congress against Glenn Beck and Fox News.

ImNotBlue said:
Is that what “declaring war” means to you? And let’s not forget the White House’s “declared war” on FNC from a while ago.

And let’s not forget it was an EPIC FAIL, like all wars on FOX have been.

writer said:
valk, hasn’t Media Matters called for boycotts on people they disagree with? Isn’t that trying to stop free speech?

Yes, but in a constitutionally acceptable way, essentially via counter speech. That is different than, for example, blowing up the Fox studio, which would be an example of illegally blocking free speech. Hasn’t O’Reilly called for people to boycott MM, repeatedly? There is no problem with that at all, imho. That’s free speech.

BatBoy said:
The Govenment Gravey Train does incluce paying no taxes. They are in business only to destroy Fox and conservatives. As I understand it, their initial application was not slanted only to Fox…but it has turned out that way. They change, we can demand changes too. MM start paying taxes like the rest of us.

Do you consider it to be a government gravy train for any not for profit to be tax exempt? That is what the libertarian position is. They don’t think there should be tax exemptions for churches and not for profits. How do you see that?

Azarkhan said:
You forget about the boycotts launched by Media Matters and their Democratic allies in the White House and Congress against Glenn Beck and Fox News.

That’s free speech. In fact Rand Paul recently identified boycotts as the appropriate way to counter racism , as opposed to the Civil Rights Act.

Depends on the reason for the boycott. If you’re doing it simply because someone’s opinion differs from yours, then that’s not pro free speech.

valkyrie101 said:
That’s free speech

LOL. When punitive action against a member of the press is being organized by White House staff, it is censorship.

valkyrie101 said:
In fact Rand Paul recently identified boycotts as the appropriate way to counter racism , as opposed to the Civil Rights Act.

So I take it you are for repealing the Civil Rights Act?

I stongly suspect that there are quite a few Media Matters drones commenting on O’Reilly’s efforts to expose them on their tax exempt status. Those commenters are obfuscating MM’s intentions, making false comparisons, making excuses for MM’s behavior and making feeble attempts to make the story about anything other than Media Matters.
Has anyone noticed any of these drones today?

Pablo said:
Are you familiar with the concept of separation of church and state?

Not an answer to my question, but yes. Libertarians go so far as to say that churches should not be tax exempt and that it may constitute a violation of the establishment clause that they are now. I was just checking to see if you are that libertarian, too.

NonElite said:
I stongly suspect that there are quite a few Media Matters drones commenting on O’Reilly’s efforts to expose them on their tax exempt status. Those commenters are obfuscating MM’s intentions, making false comparisons, making excuses for MM’s behavior and making feeble attempts to make the story about anything other than Media Matters.Has anyone noticed any of these drones today?

Their intentions are clear, they dislike Fox, believe it to be journalistically impaired, and seek to expose it as such. They also spend much time on Rush, too. Clearly MM’s people are progressive liberals.

Azarkhan said:
LOL. When punitive action against a member of the press is being organized by White House staff, it is censorship.

Did you change the subject? We were on Bill/mediamatters…

Azarkhan said:
So I take it you are for repealing the Civil Rights Act?

No. But I also am cool with boycotts, since that is a valid exercise of speech and assembly.

Isn’t this just another example of a Fox host accidently admitting his channel has far-right conservative republican bias, just like Chris Wallace did to Jon Stewart? If you’re complaining that a “far-left” group is targeting you because you have the opposite viewpoint, isn’t that what Bill is admitting?

TheFabulousStain said:
Isn’t this just another example of a Fox host accidently admitting his channel has far-right conservative republican bias, just like Chris Wallace did to Jon Stewart?

Given that the backstory occurred in your imagination, you’re going to have to tell us.

TheFabulousStain said:
Isn’t this just another example of a Fox host accidently admitting his channel has far-right conservative republican bias, just like Chris Wallace did to Jon Stewart? If you’re complaining that a “far-left” group is targeting you because you have the opposite viewpoint, isn’t that what Bill is admitting?

By that logic… does that mean that since MM doesn’t regularly complain about the other networks, they all must be part of the far left?

valkyrie101 said:
Did you change the subject?

I was responding to something you wrote. Not paying attention?

writer said:
Depends on the reason for the boycott. If you’re doing it simply because someone’s opinion differs from yours, then that’s not pro free speech.

As I recall, the boycotts began when O’Becekerhead went on the Gretchen O’Van Karlsen, Il Douchey and Other Guy show and made racist statements about our President. Doesn’t seem like opinion has much to do with. Just basic decency. So, if Valkyrie is correct about Paul, this was a perfectly legitimate (and highly successful) boycott.

NonElite said:
I stongly suspect that there are quite a few Media Matters drones commenting on O’Reilly’s efforts to expose them on their tax exempt status. Those commenters are obfuscating MM’s intentions, making false comparisons, making excuses for MM’s behavior and making feeble attempts to make the story about anything other than Media Matters.Has anyone noticed any of these drones today?

Fact: No same knuckle heads here with their same loopy liberals government spoon feed responces.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Except he DID say what I accused him of.

Lying. Again. As always. I guess the lesson is, if you’re at the keyboard, if you’re mouth is open for any purpose other than shoving in more Cheetos, if you are either inside or outside, if its’ any day ending in “day”, you’re lying.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
As I recall, the boycotts began when O’Becekerhead went on the Gretchen O’Van Karlsen, Il Douchey and Other Guy show and made racist statements about our President. Doesn’t seem like opinion has much to do with. Just basic decency. So, if Valkyrie is correct about Paul, this was a perfectly legitimate (and highly successful) boycott.

Fact: Well again you have recalled wrong. Choke up on the bat next time and keep your eyes open to the real facts next time may help you develope.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Lying. Again. As always. I guess the lesson is, if you’re at the keyboard, if you’re mouth is open for any purpose other than shoving in more Cheetos, if you are either inside or outside, if its’ any day ending in “day”, you’re lying.</blockquote

Fact: Saint Morales less itself talks about others lies?

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
And let’s not forget it was an EPIC FAIL, like all wars on FOX have been.

Let’s see, that obnoxious for FOX “News” host (afternoon/blond wig/glasses) was fired, O’Hannity has been effectively neutered, O’Beckerhead has been fired, Bill-o has moderated significantly, FOX “News” has just hired a balanced political reporter as its White House correspondent, Wallace now hosts a comedy show. Sounds like the fail might not have been all that epic, Michelle-in-Utah.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Well again you have recalled wrong. Choke up on the bat next time and keep your eyes open to the real facts next time may help you develope.

Nope. Right on target. Go check it out.

This successful boycott was the prototype for the Beck in the UK boycott, a tremendous success as well.

Azarkhan said:
I was responding to something you wrote. Not paying attention?

I’ll take your word for it.

ImNotBlue said:
By that logic… does that mean that since MM doesn’t regularly complain about the other networks, they all must be part of the far left?

I think the fact that MM is left or far left doesn’t really matter…in my opinion as long as they stick to facts and not ideological partisanship,they are doing their job which I guess is expose Fox as a propaganda machine,not a news network..I understand why Fox hates them but you can’t really argue with facts you know..so I guess Fox brought this to themselves really…
As for the tax exemption thing,I really don’t have enough knowledge on the subject to say if BillO is right or if he’s just reaching out of frustration.

valkyrie101 said:
Do you consider it to be a government gravy train for any not for profit to be tax exempt? That is what the libertarian position is. They don’t think there should be tax exemptions for churches and not for profits. How do you see that?

No

GuessWhoSuka said:
I think the fact that MM is left or far left doesn’t really matter…in my opinion as long as they stick to facts and not ideological partisanship,they are doing their job which I guess is expose Fox as a propaganda machine,not a news network..I understand why Fox hates them but you can’t really argue with facts you know..so I guess Fox brought this to themselves really…As for the tax exemption thing,I really don’t have enough knowledge on the subject to say if BillO is right or if he’s just reaching out of frustration.

facts lol, illegal aliens is loaded, unauthorized immigrant is the correct term, yeah facts lol

slickerwick said:
Yet here you are.

It’s tax exempt, so it’s in everyone’s interest that taxes are properly paid. Would you want breitbart.com to be tax-exempt as well? I don’t.

BatBoy said:
No

But MM is on the gravy train because they are tax exempt?

Soros and liberal groups seeking top election posts in battleground states

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/23/section-527-works-to-seat-liberals-as-election-ove/

valkyrie101 said:
Their intentions are clear, they dislike Fox, believe it to be journalistically impaired, and seek to expose it as such. They also spend much time on Rush, too. Clearly MM’s people are progressive liberals.

Thank you for the confirmation.

cjd ohio 1 said:
facts lol, illegal aliens is loaded, unauthorized immigrant is the correct term, yeah facts lol

I’m not saying they are perfect or that they never make mistakes…I’m saying they’re at least trying to stick to the facts and frankly,they make Fox look bad everyday, and even Politifact agrees with me on that one.
Like I said ,if Fox didn’t pretend to be fair and balanced and a news network none of this would matter.
But they do and that’s why many organization,not only MM by they way,are denouncing them as GOPTV,which they are.So I guess Fox is their own worst enemy….but hey at least they make a sheet load of money with their B.S. which is their goal after all.

GuessWhoSuka said:
I’m not saying they are perfect or that they never make mistakes…I’m saying they’re at least trying to stick to the facts and frankly,they make Fox look bad everyday, and even Politifact agrees with me on that one.Like I said ,if Fox didn’t pretend to be fair and balanced and a news network none of this would matter.But they do and that’s why many organization,not only MM by they way,are denouncing them as GOPTV,which they are.So I guess Fox is their own worst enemy….but hey at least they make a sheet load of money with their B.S. which is their goal after all.

i got it, its the slogan, not the bias

Love to see that happen personally but it wouldn’t happen nor should it! What would the left do including MSNBC without MM?

Just4thefax said:
Fact: N-please what dope are you on?

N-Please? racist.

So you radical racist liberal progressives who hate anyone who disagree with you are at it again. You and your anti-Semitic God, George Soros are trying to kill any opinion that disagrees with you. In fact you may actually be trying to kill anyone who disagrees with you, after all while we have no proof, but the charge itself is worth an investigation. You support an organization that is racist in itself, after all the tax exempt organization MM supports La Raza, the race. Next you will be wearing Klan hoods, just like your democratic party ancestors. Media Matters must be stopped at any price, quick call the Heritage Foundation or Mark Levin, we need a glitter fest or a rally or a chant like “Hell yes, MM must cease to exist.” or maybe a congressional investigation into how we can put all progressives on trial for Treason, yes Treason against the very county they dare to breath in. I say now, all you lefties and progressives and progressive lefties leave this county, if you have any decency, you would flee the United States now……

Wow, that was a little out of control, the spirit of Keith Olbermann must have invaded my keyboard. No wait, he is at that top rated network Spotted Al started, you know Current TV or something.

Now, a little reality check. My friends on the progressive left, this is what it sounds like when you open your mouths. After months of reading mediate, the daily KOS, MSNBC, and yes Media Matters, the above is a summarized diatribe of what your loons in progressive world are putting up on the net and on your networks.

Sanders Youth said:
Fox News is a 24/7 mouthpiece for the Republican Party and you guys get your panties twisted over a website? Aren’t the Libtards allowed some table scraps or do you fat asses want it all for yourself?

No

Sanders Youth said:
Fox News is a 24/7 mouthpiece for the Republican Party and you guys get your panties twisted over a website? Aren’t the Libtards allowed some table scraps or do you fat asses want it all for yourself?

I love this one, how many newspapers, networks, and major tax exempt web sites does a progressive liberal need to feel secure. Answer: all of them, every last one of them.

There must never be any dissent at any time at any where or we must cry foul and that we are outnumbered. After all the 1st Amendment, that’s the free speech one, only applies to progressive liberals anyone else is a dunderhead, hick, in flyover country bumkin, stupid, a moron, on drugs, doing meth, drunk, a wife beater, a racist, a homophone, a fat ass, a republican, a conservative,a Palin, a traitor, did I leave anything out. Since a non-progressive is anyone of these things they must be silence for our own, er their own good. Only Progressive Liberals can say what they want, because only they are right.

BTW, I have seen almost every one of those labels used on this website by Progressives on this site in the past 9 months. And no, I am not saying that the right is blameless, you all use them as your default, rather than starting with thought out onion. But emotions are easier than reason.

NonElite said:
Thank you for the confirmation.

Your welcome, but I am not sure that is enough for MM to lose its tax exempt status. There are many partisan not for profits. I understand that one of MM’s not for profit purposes is media watch dogging. I think they do that. Sure, their focus is FOX (and Rush) but not exclusively, by any means.

BatBoy said:
No

I love brevity. Especially when it is so correct.

Media Matters…just don’t mater..the ones who sleep while they tune in to MM are not anything to worry about The Fox NEWS wouldn’t be number one with out the people who tune in to it. All others just report what is feed to them by a running ticker tape feed by the US Gov. They don’t do any investigations or try to get the facts. They just take snips of things people say and twist it to feed the freaks sleeping in front of the TV or radio.
So lefties tune back to Media matters or CNN and go back to sleep….eat the trash your feed and keep telling everyone what you say it the truth…

I was against Obama before being against Obama was cool….
lol…just saying

cjd ohio 1 said:
i got it, its the slogan, not the bias

huhuh…whatever.

valkyrie101 said:
But MM is on the gravy train because they are tax exempt?

Yes – they own that to us taxpayers. If they can “do their thing” across the board, then pay the tax.

Pretty simple!

Let media matters pay their fair share!

I thought that’s what you leftists wanted.

BatBoy said:
Yes – they own that to us taxpayers. If they can “do their thing” across the board, then pay the tax. Pretty simple!

Like I said, some people, including libertarians, believe that nobody should be tax exempt. But if you are going to give that advantage to churches, you must include all not for profits, otherwise, that would clearly be an establishment clause problem. As for whether MM is in violation of its not for profit status by going after Fox, I doubt it.

I got no problem with MM not getting tax exempts…as soon a Exxon,GE,NewsCorp.all of Big Oil ,Koch Industries, and all these other big guys pay their fair share too.
Fair is fair for everyone.

Sidhekitten said:
So you radical racist liberal progressives who hate anyone who disagree with you are at it again. You and your anti-Semitic God, George Soros are trying to kill any opinion that disagrees with you. In fact you may actually be trying to kill anyone who disagrees with you, after all while we have no proof, but the charge itself is worth an investigation. You support an organization that is racist in itself, after all the tax exempt organization MM supports La Raza, the race. Next you will be wearing Klan hoods, just like your democratic party ancestors. Media Matters must be stopped at any price, quick call the Heritage Foundation or Mark Levin, we need a glitter fest or a rally or a chant like “Hell yes, MM must cease to exist.” or maybe a congressional investigation into how we can put all progressives on trial for Treason, yes Treason against the very county they dare to breath in. I say now, all you lefties and progressives and progressive lefties leave this county, if you have any decency, you would flee the United States now……

Wow, that was a little out of control, the spirit of Keith Olbermann must have invaded my keyboard. No wait, he is at that top rated network Spotted Al started, you know Current TV or something.

Now, a little reality check. My friends on the progressive left, this is what it sounds like when you open your mouths. After months of reading mediate, the daily KOS, MSNBC, and yes Media Matters, the above is a summarized diatribe of what your loons in progressive world are putting up on the net and on your networks.

That is a load of total lies and paranoia. Soros is an antisemite, yeah right. And Obama hates Jews too and wants them all dead. What a crackpot!

BarneyFranken said:
Let media matters pay their fair share!

I thought that’s what you leftists wanted.

They aren’t making money, they aren’t selling anything.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Well this should be a no brainer, but I look forward to the libs arguing against it.

Since you are so good with facts and logic, (but only when it suits your biases) , how much money is MM making? They don’t sell advertisements or do endorsements. So besides donations, what is their revenue stream?

valkyrie101 said:
As for whether MM is in violation of its not for profit status by going after Fox, I doubt it.

If MM went after all of the TV on an even basis, then I am OK with them and their Tax Exempt Status.

But MM does not do that. There sole and stated mission is to destroy Fox. That is not a “Tax Exempt” organization in my book.

If they want to try to destory Fox…do so, but pay tax like the rest of us.

David Brock, founder and chairman of Media Matters, the dumbest website on the internet, may lose its tax exempt status after ding dong went public on the far left org’s mission to destroy FOX News.The new strategy, he said, is a “war on Fox.” http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51949.html

jakester said:
They aren’t making money, they aren’t selling anything.

jakester said:
Since you are so good with facts and logic, (but only when it suits your biases) , how much money is MM making? They don’t sell advertisements or do endorsements. So besides donations, what is their revenue stream?

This is a very good point you bring up Jakester. If MM does not make any money, then there is no harm in them losing their “TAX Exempt” Status.

If they truely do not make any money, then they would owe no tax.

MM is a hate fest, they stand with abccbsnbccnnmsnbc in complaining that conservatives have one network where they are allowed on air, unhampered by the liberal left bubble that the rest of the media live in.

it is so funny to watch and quite interesting, given the left are the ones who are supposed to stand for “tolerance”….I guess that would “tolerance as long as you agree with me and my opinions”.

So funny, they are scared to death that the public is completely understanding that the media have abdicated their responsibilities, they have gone from protecting the people with the truth, to protecting the oval office recipient by spreading lies and propaganda.

How sad for them, and thankfully knowing that the public is a heck of a lot smarter than the bower, the face maker , and short democrat operative, and the super lib just gives me hope for change in 2012.

Here is the basic difference between Conservatives and Progressives.

Conservatives are willing to let the market dictate TV shows and on-air personalities.

Progressives need to start a non-profit and try to DESTROY the TV shows and on-air personalities they fear.

The King is very offended that Beck would infer racism, just because Obama went to a racist church for twenty years.

O’Reilly would also call for the tax exempt status revocation of The Media Research Center if he wasn’t such a flaming hypocrite.

See that’s a major difference between liberals and conservatives. When liberals simply tell the ugly truth about conservatives. the conservative almost always whine and cry and may try to enlist the power of the state to attack the liberals instead of letting the free markets decide.

Brent Bozell and his tax-exempt Media Research Center has somehow escaped O’Reilly’s eye of justice, even though Bozell has been on O’Reilly’s show!

Sort of like the ugly truth about Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. No whining from the left there.

You can whine about that all you like but I don’t recall anybody trying to get the IRS to go after you for it.

Not a whine. Just the ugly truth.

Whining and crying 24/7 about Rev Wright is still no reason for anybody to try to get the IRS involved.

http://www.backwater-productions.net/data_archive/images/funny/political/Bill%20O'Reilly%20is%20Full%20of%20Shit.jpg

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/politicalcartoons/ig/Tea-Party-Cartoons/Tea-Party-Hat.htm

writer said:
The King is very offended that Beck would infer racism, just because Obama went to a racist church for twenty years.

Racist church?