I kinda agree with ole Kraut on this one,  but I don’t think Romney is the one to bring the conservatives back into line.

If conservative influence has waned, there’s little question as to the cause: the movement has been hijacked by a gaggle of low IQ dullards whose only claim to conservatism is their high octane flag-waving, their phony religious moralizing, their abandonment of reason, their skepticism of well-established science and their positively magical belief in the power of tax cuts to solve all our problems.

 …and don’t forget their SWEEP of the 2010 elections! – without “occupying” anywhere.

Yes, and all that those people had going for them were their pitchforks and arrogance — no constructive ideas, no realistic proposals, no imaginative plans to reinvigorate the economy. And now many of those tea partiers who were swept into office on a wave of anti-incumbent sentiment are
facing ejection themselves, some possibly in recall elections.

People saw what happen in 2010 and are now afraid to vote for hardcore right candidates.  

Anal froth mix is no conservative. He’s a big government statist who wants to police morality. Not to mention his penchant for earmarking.  

WTF was that Chinese lady talking about for over 5 minutes??? Mitt Romney is a sign from God? WTF was that???

This folks, is how the far left sees Conservatives and Republicans. It doesn’t matter that this view is inaccurate… it’s the caricature with which they see “the enemy.”

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I don’t buy O’Reilly’s argument (look at how far the numbers are down in most of the states…No really look at them.  This means nothing in the general election, unless the candidates are any of the four left.  Whoops!).

Is this your first rodeo Norbit?  Are you just finding out that negative advertising depressing voter turnout has been studied for years?

Your understanding of “history” is not much better than O’Reilly’s.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/14/primary-voter-turnout-stays-low-but-more-so-for-democrats/ 

LOL! “Far left”? In your dreams.

The only people who consider me “far left” are the conservatives I left behind who remain embittered that I couldn’t drink their Kool-Aid® anymore. Conservatism has a noble history and much to offer the country, but first it needs to have a wholesale exorcism of the wingnuttery that got it into its intellectual ditch over the last 25 years.

Rightwing nuts have managed to set the GOP agenda and run their party off a cliff, so they’re still pretty powerful.

and don’t forget the abysmal numbers the folks they elected earned once taking office.

because the rightwing has always been so cordial when they refer to anyone who’s not a Republican as ‘a communist’ who ‘hates America.’

The real difficulty there is structural. If the Dems, or some group, don’t find some way to GOTV on each & every midterm, then clusterf**ks like what happened in 2010 are going to happen occasionally, & we’re really too big a country & too connected to each other & to the rest of the world to be able to afford the sort of Bircherism & nihilism that results from such madness. It’s an unfortunate fact that’s far far easier to tear down & disable institutions, and EXTREMELY quickly (as we’ve seen in quite a few states that went triple R in 2010) than it is to build them up & strengthen them.

Could this be our old comrade in grass tending No Bits in a fresh disguise?

 You went from

Well, it’s undeniable they’re both equally corrupt.
But to feign outrage on one side, while sitting back on the other is just dishonest.

to being a mediaite clown

This folks, is DENIAL, DENIAL, DENIAL!!!!!!!!

While there has certainly been a rise of ultraconservative dialogue lately, decrying the ills of socialism, atheism, feminism, political correctness, government spending, etc. As soon as they are elected conservatives tend to immediately start on bankrupting the government, crashing the economy, running up mountains of debt, fighting idiotic wars and trying to return the country’s social policies to the 18th century, all the while STILL decrying the evils of ‘liberalism’. That’s why I’d never vote for them.

Krauthammer is one of these ‘experts’ who doesn’t know very much. It is a well known pollster’s trick to ask people general questions and then ask specifics inside that general question. If you ask people whether government should be small or big, the answer is obvious, they will say ‘small’. A pollster worth his salt knows that is useless because you then want to dig deep and ask questions about what the government should and shouldn’t do. Guess what happens. People actually like big government. Why? Because people like Medicare, Social Security, education for their kids, some military spending, bridge and road building, strong law enforcement and enviromental protection. Most people have wanted public option in health care for decades.

So, yes people want small government in the abstract, as I or any sane person would. In practice, the public wants a caring and safe country that looks after its health and its children’s education; it wants a state that looks after the old and vulnerable; it wants a state that doesn’t allow its air and rivers to be poisened. It is very easy to be one thing in theory and something else in practice. We are like that.

He is an “ex GOP man”.

There you go …

Tea Party ‘Is Dead’: How the Movement Fizzled in 2012’s GOP Primaries

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/06/tea-party-is-dead-how-the-movement-fizzled-in-2012-s-gop-primaries.html 

Everyone of these conservatives criticizes Gingrich for ‘lack of discipline’ with their own interpretation of the term.. some criticize it from an execution standpoint, others from an ideological standpoint.

While the former can be understood, the later stipulates a no-independent-thinking-allowed zone in the conservative ecosystem & therein lies the problem

Where are the moderate Republicans these days? At least you could listen to their policies with respecting their position on things.

I wish they would come out of hiding…..

There’s still some kick left. In Republicanism, the mainstream candidates talk right while pulling to the middle. Invariably. Raygun. Poppy. Dole. W. Gramps. Willard. That’s the angst in the party right now, the cause for the on-going search for the non-Willard. Generally, the rightists fall in line with the approach of November and by January they realize they have been duped yet again. And, that may be the true conservatism in the party. Nothing changes.

Bankrupting the govt.is an agenda.When your party can’t garner support from the majority of Americans to sink SS,Medicare,and Medicaid, your agenda is to bankrupt the system so you can use your next analogy that “WE CAN’T AFFORD THESE PROGRAMS”!!!!! Although WE CAN support another tax cut for the JOB CREATORS.If this Trickle Down nonsense actually worked,I’d say we’d be up to our Arse in jobs,since they’ve primed the pump for over a decade.When Chickenhawk Chaney stated “defects don’t matter”,all you heard from the right was an AMEN REV!! Now those same 2 faced fools want you to start using 1 ply instead of 2.

Problem solving rising above ideology is bad?  

I disagree: the Rep Party has been scared off by politically correct cries of “racism” that accompany every move Reps make despite the fact they do not support one mainstream political construct by way of law or group that is fundamentally organized around race; that distinction belongs to the Dem Party. Rather than fight back accusations of them being a party of old white men, they should be asking black folks why they don’t start voting on issues rather than race; black folks keep themselves out of the Rep Party not the other way around. Anyone who thinks white folks wouldn’t have been taken to the cleaners had they voted for McCain to the tune of 96% is crazy yet black folks did that exact thing and still call the kettle black. The Rep Party is no more a party of white people than hockey is a league of white people. Neither is formally or even informally organized around race and black people not participating in either group is no knock on those groups. The PC Left has conservatives questioning their own values on the national stage and Conservatives have pandered to this as the stupid decision to gather around Steele and Cain shows. In effect, the Dems have the Reps thinking like they do – about race, the centerpiece of liberalism in America.

Well the wingnuts don’t look so bad next to people who give out awards based on skin color and then call people who don’t racists. That is a new low for wing nuttery and it resides entirely on the Left.

OWS are socialists who dislike America and much of their rhetoric is echoed by the Dem Party. That cannot be denied. It is not aimed at just anyone, but the crowd that like Dohrn and Ayers and Churchill and Rev. Wright. These people despise America and its history.

Liberalism has its own problems, which is why I’ve never aligned myself with the left. But compared to what conservatism has gone through since the late 80s — with the rise of the religious right and the ascendency of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk — there’s just no comparison. The liberals I know are imperfect, but at least they’re reasonable and not as easily conned.

Most importantly, Liberals usually know that their crazies ARE crazy. Conservatives not only don’t recognize it in their own, but actually are willing to consider them as presidential contenders.

Moderate Republicans are now Independents.   The hard core right made this happen.

I’m a student of Murdochism and I’m beginning to detect a movement on the part of FOX away from the extreme nuttiness of the rightwing politics of the past 10 years. Listening to O’Reilly who is certainly the political/propaganda leader at FOX as well as Murdoch’s mouthpiece, I wouldn’t be surprised if FOX pulls a switcheroo. They’ve done this both in Britain and Australia. In Britain the Fox media empire which is even more extensive than in the United States (Fox owns the majority of the national newspapers in England) along with a good share of the TV market. Murdoch switched his support from the Conservatives to Tony Blair when it became evident that Blair was going to sweep the elections. Blair was the Labour candidate (a Socialist!!), and pursued left (Social Democratic) policies, but left office in disgrace primarily because he gave the green light to Bush about invading Iraq which enraged the British public. Without Blair’s approval there’s a good chance Bush would not have started the war with Iraq.

The Republicans are in such disarray and are are set up to lose maybe big time in November. Murdoch despises losers so don’t be surprised if Murdoch abandons, if only temporarily, the Republicans come November.

This aligns nicely with my own experience.  How else to explain only 20% of the country claiming to be liberal, and yet the electorate being split evenly between the liberal & conservative parties?  There’s only so much flying spittle that the average citizen can tolerate.

Liberals accuse teabaggers of racism after signs that they carry call out those non whites. The right wing IS primarily white, christian fundamentalist and the rich. To say other wise is another lie. Teabaggers themselves have shown they are the enemies of labor, workers, secular laws, other religions. You dug your own hole, we just point out how deep you dug it. You made “liberal” a dirty word. We do the same with republicant+=teabagger.

What a moronic remark. Your saying you’re all for Wall Street creating instruments that are worthless, selling them as triple A rated and then bankrupting the country. What an idiot.

Dolf Tenster: Most people call themselves conservative in financial issues, not social ideas. When the question us asked, it is framed poorly. I am a “far left liberal progressive”. I am fiscally conservative like 98% of workers who live paycheck to paycheck. Am I a “conservative”?

They are wielding more power than ever. That’s why their numbers are so bad.

Of the 75 TEA  Party candidates that won election in 2010, only 22 voted to not raise the debt limit. Big government is getting bigger and bigger. There is only one presidental candidate that will shrink the government of unnecessary departments or agency’s. There is only one candidate that will stop all undeclaired wars and close all unnecessary overseas military bases. Ron Paul is the only politician that is honest and has any sense. We need more jobs, like the Boeing plant and the Keystone Pipeline, which Obama opposes. All the candidates except Paul are corrupt and will continue the present course of big government and higher taxes to pay for it. Taxing the rich will not be enough as long as the spending continues.    

Right wingers think Ron Paul is crazy, but he is the only sane one in the bunch. He is the only one that gives straight and honest answers and not bs like the others. Lies are more interesting than the truth, so most people believe them, they can’t handle the truth.

James  When the TV cameras scan the crowd at a republican gathering or a teaparty rally or even at a conservative convention the picture shows a crowd of
“old white men “. And the NHL hockey league is indeed 98% white.However that
 selection is by talent.The other is that old white guys are the mainstream
of the conservatives were males dominate.

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah! Nobody is righter than her, depending on what planet you reside on.

The Ultra Right-wing is the Moral Majority, is the Tea Party, Etc, repeat as necessary.
In any case, it is still only 30% strength, at best.

Hey Bill, #1-the Caucus votes exclude the majority voters that are independents which include many conservatives #2 States like Nevada have had massive migrations from California with their more liberal voters (they messed up CA now they are messing up new places like locusts migrating).