Damn! what’s the MSM going to do?

I see that Gary Tuchman of CNN tried to get her to respond to a question of whether she has used campaign funds in past to pay her house mortgage or rent.

And I am sure the dishonest grifter and her lawyers will have some horseshit excuse about it being her campaign headquarters.

Though she carried herself well enough in a friendly environment, overall her appearance unfortunately didn’t merit the hype surrounding her primary victory…aside from the confirmation that this was her only national media appearance.

Thanks for your unbiased opinion, Glenn.

Totally charming .

puck30 said:
Damn! what’s the MSM going to do?

I’d like to think focus on races that deal with heavy forces within the parties and not backbenchers. Honestly though they’ll look for the next person to say something goofy and pounce on that since it’s easier to make a story out of it. And yes this does include fox news.

puck30 said:
Damn! what’s the MSM going to do?

I think the MSM probably needs to get used to this in future, especially from Republican candidates. There is no upside to appearing on any of the regular networks as they really don’t have the viewerships anymore to justify the risk of how they are presented by the Left media. They need to face the fact that when they went all in with Obama they lost whatever shred of credibility they had remaining. It’s going to be all Internet and localized for the Senate and Congressional Candidates. It will be interesting to watch of the coming 2 years.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
And I am sure the dishonest grifter and her lawyers will have some horseshit excuse about it being her campaign headquarters.

That’s not an excuse. That’s being savvy, you ask me. Using the system against itself is always a big plus in my book. Nothing wrong with it at all.

Haimerej said:
That’s not an excuse. That’s being savvy, you ask me. Using the system against itself is always a big plus in my book. Nothing wrong with it at all.

Yeah, just like those 8 public officials in the city of Bell.

Oh my, if she does not appear on any media outlets they might tear into her character, portray her as a wing-nut, and start dredging up obscure and pointless details from her past to cast her in a bad light!

And she’s under pressure to live up to that vow: expect to hear a whole lot from Coons’ camp if she does a spot on a similar show.

Coons probably does not want to hold her too tightly to her word, because he has already had trouble staying true to his own declarations. He campaigned against raising taxes, and then went wild doing exactly that. Recently he announced “We cannot let Joe Biden’s seat fall into ultraconservative hands“, however after that comment he tried to pull a Scott Brown in his debate with O’Donnell to say, “It’s often said that this is Joe Biden’s seat. It’s not. It’s Delaware’s seat.”

I still want to see this Coons chickenshit go to more debates with her. And, how about some coverage of this dolt Coons… isn’t he a bit of a tax, and tax, and go into debt and bankrupt the state guy?
I understand there will be a big debate on Oct. 14 or so on CNN live. all you liberal dolts can save up and buy a bottle of beer and some nuts and watch it… should be entertaining watching Coons get his balls handed to him.

Tax cuts!

Oh, and, tax cuts!

And one more thing… tax cuts!

Well, doesn’t that sound familiar. LOL

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
Yeah, just like those 8 public officials in the city of Bell.

The people of Bell got what they voted for. That’s merely a lesson on why it’s important to be an informed voter.

Paul Westlake said:
Tax cuts! Oh, and, tax cuts! And one more thing… tax cuts! Well, doesn’t that sound familiar. LOL

You got my vote!

Haimerej said:
The people of Bell got what they voted for. That’s merely a lesson on why it’s important to be an informed voter.

The voters who voted for Obama in 2008 refused to be informed and look what it got them. Buyer’s remorse.

Haimerej said:
The people of Bell got what they voted for. That’s merely a lesson on why it’s important to be an informed voter.

Maybe the voters needed more media during the campaign to investigate the background on those Bell officials to determine if they had any tendencies toward corruption.

Also, Bell’s problems run deeper than voting for higher salaries. They were paying themselves for bogus meetings and giving themselves loans.

Christine has (allegedly, I’m not even sure if this is confirmed) used campaign funds to pay for her campaign headquarters. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
Maybe the voters needed more media during the campaign to investigate the background on those Bell officials to determine if they had any tendencies toward corruption.

Or they could have simply paid attention to what was going on in city hall. Those salaries weren’t increased by magic.

In fact, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that this kind of business is going on all over the country. Public officials are notorious for creating jobs for their cronies. Hopefully, more people will get more involved in their local governments and we can see a weeding out of this kind of crap.

“Nothing wrong with that”

There is a reason Hannity didn’t ask her about it, and that is because she knows she was pushing the gray area of the law with those reimbursements. She might have a valid argument for reimbursement for some expense including an allocation of a portion of the house, but not 100%, and according to the statements I have read, she was being paid a full 100% of her rent/mortage by the campaign.

You folks do understant the people in Bell are DEMOCRATS.

If I, as a campaign consultant, had a candidate that media is trying to destroy it becomes my job to destroy my candidates opponent. When I get done with him the voters will know my candidates opponent is the worst person to ever walk the Earth.

Well Blower, get busy working for O’Donnells campaign. At the very you should start doing YouTube videos for her.

“Not Going To Do Any More National Media”

Why should she? There’s no point in it. The national media has one thing in mind, and that’s to destroy her. She’s in a local Delaware race, and the progressive slime machine in New York and Washington are not the ones who’ll be voting there.

I live in Washington State, and I’m guessing that few, if any of you, can tell me without looking, who’s the Republican running against senator Patty Murray this year. And why should you? It’s our business.

Mr.Papshmer said:
“Not Going To Do Any More National Media”

Why should she? There’s no point in it. The national media has one thing in mind, and that’s to destroy her. She’s in a local Delaware race, and the progressive slime machine in New York and Washington are not the ones who’ll be voting there.

I live in Washington State, and I’m guessing that few, if any of you, can tell me without looking, who’s the Republican running against senator Patty Murray this year. And why should you? It’s our business.

Once your candidates stop accepting out of state money in an attempt to influence the election, we will stop caring.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
Once your candidates stop accepting out of state money in an attempt to influence the election, we will stop caring.

You didn’t care before, and he does accept out of state money, as Murray is vulnerable this year. They all do, anyway. Don’t be naive.

She appears to be as good at running for office as Palin. Prepare for a crushing defeat you dimwitted grifter. Oh, and if her witchcraft comments don’t matter a 25 year old paper from college by Chris Coons which was a joke sure as hell doesn’t. He’s going to wipe the floor with this hoople in their debate on CNN on October 13th if she shows up.

No shit. But spare me the bullshit about not caring when individuals like you and me are sending checks to candidates in other states.

WE WOULDN’T BE DONATING TO OUT OF STATE CAMPAIGNS IF WE DIDN’T CARE!

“O’Donnell made that clear when Hannity referenced a recent Sarah Palin tweet saying:

C. O’Donnell strategy: time’s limited;use it 2 connect w/local voters whom you’ll be serving vs appeasing nat’l media seeking ur destruction”

Some great advice. What a minute. Didn’t Palin and McCain lose in 2008? Didn’t she quit half way through her term as Governor? Yeah, that’s just the woman I’d be taking advice from.

BTW, what’s O’Donnell going to do about the absentee voters, is she going to travel all over the country maybe the world to talk with them? I think the reason Palin gave her that advice is because she realizes O’Donnell is as dumb as she is.

John T,

Hey, is Johnny Dollar still spreading lies about NewHound people? I haven’t been keeping up.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
Hey, is Johnny Dollar still spreading lies about NewHound people? I haven’t been keeping up.

About every thread is about the NewsHounds, even if they are not the topic. And they accuse the NewsHounds of having an obsession with Dollar.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:

Haimerej said:
That’s not an excuse. That’s being savvy, you ask me. Using the system against itself is always a big plus in my book. Nothing wrong with it at all.

Yeah, just like those 8 public officials in the city of Bell.

OK, that’s the most ignorant comment I’ve seen all day. Congratulations.

Dollar and his little peons are hypocrites. He might as well rename his site NewshoundsWatch.com.

Of course the hypocrisy of the attacks on “witchcraft” or a variety of media youth events is pretty weak. Hillary Clinton claims to have communed with Eleanor Roosevelt and as far as paranoid moment go what can top a “vast right wing conspiracy” to explain away lying under oath?

It’s also rather amazing to see the morally vague left on all forms sex, drugs and other social decay become the party of Ozzie and Hariet when it suits them. The gender bias involved over the statements of even a confused but idealistic young women with little objection of the professional feminists is naked to see. No doubt this is problem for the young in the age of recorded media and type of culture politicians might be attracked to .

She did a good job and she is 100% correct that the left just will not discuss it at the issue level. They know they will lose the debate. The real baggage from any of the many claims is in regards to finances but I’m very reassured based on the shot-gun approach that looks like liberal panic. If there really was a smoking gun the other nonsense issues and vintage tapes wouldn’t be needed. Instead they need to attack and call her a slut, very creative. As far as being “stupid” it’s especially a laugh considering this was Joe Biden’s whose picture should be listed next to the word in the dictionary. DE certainly doesn’t put a premium on brains to start with. The party of Al Franken or the hidden transcripts of Obama tell us enough about this topic.

Will the MSM vet Coons? I certainly doubt that. So we have all the usual low class name calling from the left; “Teabagger”, “slut” etc. but zero focus on the policy of higher taxes, more government and more control shifted from people to faceless authority. I DE can see through it all, see the low quality of both the executive and senate in comparison and focus on the voting issues first. If the left has a strong case on logic why do they want to depend on mud and character attacks? That’s really the story so far.

Chris Hanson said:
It’s also rather amazing to see the morally vague left on all forms sex, drugs and other social decay become the party of Ozzie and Hariet when it suits them.

Now whoa there! Who is the party that claims family values? Well I think that’s the Republicans. You know like Newt G. and Rudy G. which have both been married 3 times. And Newt served his wife divorce papers while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery. Then you have McCain, who’s wife waited 5yrs for him to come home from Vietnam just so he could come home and find she wasn’t the beauty queen he married (because of a car wreck she was in). Just to dump her and go find a better looking woman. So you’d better back up before you go talking morale values.

What is it qbout these Tea Partiers that makes them such unabashed cowards? They keep saying that they have a message? but they run from every opportunity to spread the message. We don’t need these people in our political system.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
Dollar and his little peons are hypocrites. He might as well rename his site NewshoundsWatch.com.

Isn’t that the truth! The charming little naive Phox Phan Klub is little more than a Black Thong led hate crusade. Boring as all get out.

You just don’t accept the fact that the normal rule of decorum, ethics and morality don’t apply to these people. The women shovel on make-up and bounce their ta-tas around and the men put on tutti-frutti flavored condoms and the bachanal begins.

As “dumb” as Palin?

It’s always interesting when liberals play the phony “brain power card”. In every topic of debate the left claims the edge, “settled science” when they have a group of self-proclaimed “experts” on any topic that just so happen to largely share the same socialist backdrop. Many largely hang around union educational and research enclaves and generally hold the private sector in contempt. This is probably where the talking point originated. Also the roots of the MSM developed into another form of “expert” opinion and assumed authority, enve more laughable.

The party of the “people” always cling to the Ivory Tower of these enclaves and never miss a chance to degrade and belittle bright people who advanced without elite privlidge while ignoring the many ignorant elements such as Biden, Maxine Waters (dumb as shoe leather), Al Gore (lower grades than Bush, complete fool given a media pass) and many others. The mythology of many presidents have fallen this way; liberals smart, GOP dumb. It can be traced back to 1900 at least with the rise of populist progressive causes founded at the University level. Wilson engaged it with some success. The party that would win most elections in prison systems as well as mental hospitals and welfare offices makes the claim.

When you have tens of millions divided over political views regarding the size and policy of government do you really think there could be large gap either way on I.Q. or real intelligence by any measure? That is amazingly ignorant if you do. Zero understanding of macro statistics and population samples. A perfect example of the real difference in cultures which is pompous certitude which has nothing to do with brains but does mark one political culture in particular. A curious trait that has nothing to do with raw intelligence.

O’Donnell and Palin are obviously fairly smart relative to the general population and politicians in general. Many of whom regardless of party are not the sharpest of pencils in the box as this isn’t as important as the many skill sets that are required. How else can you explain a Joe Biden as a glaring example of stupid rising near the top of a power structure?

I’m just sick of the MSM culture point that flatters themselves in the same stroke with zero empirical evidence to back up such a claim. FDR, Truman, Nixon, Eisenhower (the last two were certainly the brightest in raw intellect by the way) being perfect example of presidents who lacked formal educational or deeply credited intellectual prowess but managed there jobs rather shrewdly regardless of policy judgement. Johnson, Carter, Bush I and II, Hoover all of whom were better educated but failed in large measure. Now we have an affirmative action president with a sealed record and we can see how this is going. It doesn’t matter what his SAT score really was you can see some of the skill sets, please don’t try to expand the brain power myth in this case. That’s a bit of a sad joke. The liberal brain claims is an even more inane on the face of it.

Chris Hanson said:
It’s always interesting when liberals play the phony “brain power card”. In every topic of debate the left claims the edge, “settled science” when they have a group of self-proclaimed “experts”

Maybe you should go back and read your comment. You just discribed yourself. Hypocrite.

Who is the party that claims family values?

It’s really a question of aspiration in many cases rather than judging other groups. I really couldn’t careless about many of these topics directly but I do think there is a social value in trying to maintain prior standards. look no further than “Jersey Shore” or most anywhere the effects of moral relativism championed by the left for themselves but hold in reserve for political pupose when a flawed women arrives on the scene who belongs to another political tribe.

O’Donnell will get a harsher treatment no doubt and the left will score some points which is the goal of the process. The hypocrisy remains glaring and in-the-tank media will play the game is more pathetic. Meanwhile we Obama gets a pass on cocaine use and zero vetting of his lost years, not that this why I would oppose him of course or why you would do everything to suppress evidence given the chance.

I’m always surprised by the imagined Bohemian’s and there childlike sensitivity when their values are judged by the society they hold so much contempt for. It’s a paradox at least but as practiced a true hypocrisy.

Paul Westlake said:
Tax cuts! Oh, and, tax cuts! And one more thing… tax cuts! Well, doesn’t that sound familiar. LOL

Raise taxes!

Oh, and, raise taxes!

And one more thing… raise more taxes!

Any taxpayer who thinks they aren’t paying their fair share is allowed to send GovCo more money voluntarily. There’s no penalty, just send it on in!

While there are clearly many stupid people in either pool only one party makes the claim of deeper intellect. If you’re offended I would point out some rather obvious conflicts with such a claim so be it. I don’t generally assume as is often the liberal custom that people I disagree with are just “stupid” which is constant theme on any message board for example. I realize some on the right have adopted this as well and denounce the practice there also.

Large population samples can’t have large deviations on intelligence. Each side attracts a variety of groups of higher and lower base lines for sure. The constant assumption in conversation that O’Donnell is dumb is rather a cover for the fact that it’s a matter that she was lower class. You don’t see the hypocrisy of that coming from the supporters of the “people”?

Chris Hanson said:
Meanwhile we Obama gets a pass on cocaine use

Didn’t Bush get a pass on his alchol and cocaine use? Bush was in his forties when he gave it up. Obama was a teenager. So climb down off your self righteous high horse.

Chris Hanson said:
You don’t see the hypocrisy of that coming from the supporters of the “people”?

Just who do you claim are the “supporters of the people” ?

Didn’t Bush get a pass on his alchol and cocaine use?

You miss the point, I’m sure deliberately. Are you serious in thinking the MSM tried to spin the flaws in the same way? Do you think Dan Rather was going to roll with forged docs on Obama??

Did the little voices tell you this?

How dishonest about the state of media bias could you be?

gordonbloyershow said:
You folks do understant the people in Bell are DEMOCRATS.

If I, as a campaign consultant, had a candidate that media is trying to destroy it becomes my job to destroy my candidates opponent. When I get done with him the voters will know my candidates opponent is the worst person to ever walk the Earth.

Boyers A Democratic California Attorney General had them arrested and is currently going after other city council members in other parts of California. Don’t be a Rush now, make you sure to tell the whole truth.

Chris Hanson said:
How dishonest about the state of media bias could you be?

Yeah, you RWers think if they’re not like Fox then they’re biased. You people are pathetic.

Just who do you claim are the “supporters of the people” ?

All would make this claim but the hypocrisy is rather glaring from a party based on attacking others based on enzy as rule on the one hand and being the champion of lower classes while they often launch such character attacks to smear “Teabaggers” as unintelligent and ignorant. Would you really like to sample wealth, educational status of this group compared to the baseline democratic supporter?

Again, I understand what I said about large samples but you have to be kidding if you can’t denounce the child like debating tactic of calling those who a oppose you as “stupid” or the many other invectives common in the liberal political culture; ‘racist”, “bigot” etc., etc.

Yes, it cuts both ways but the level of condesention is dwarfed by the PC liberal culture. You can’t admit this?

Chris, you’re usually a rare voice of reason from the right, and I’m not sure what got to you. These discussions can get a bit over-heated and frustrating.

I think we have reached the point that the dearest and best don’t run for office in America. Part of that is I am sure the inherent nastiness and contempt we seem to hold for anyone who runs for office. It happened with W (largely based upon his perceived intellectual shallowness and the rightist pull upon him lead by the neo-cons) and it has happened with Obama (largely because of the fear of change by those unwilling to recognize that America has changed and often expressed in ugly, racist terms). We see no clearer indication of the inferiority of our candidates than with the Tea Party trash, but we also see it with many of our mainstream Democrats and Republicans.

I’m surprised by your vehemence about the anti-intellectual, anti-science disposition of the Tea Partiers. My goodness, that is so demonstrably true. Similarly, I don’t see how you can, with a straight face, claim that the Republicans have so loudly proclaimed their undying devotion to family values whilst so betraying the concept in their own lives. Both parties include numbers of scoundrels and deviants, but the Republicans are demonstrably hypocritical in this regard.

I’m not sure your advancing an argument by denying the obvious, especially while your argument could be so well and effectively recast.

Chris Hanson said:
Again, I understand what I said about large samples but you have to be kidding if you can’t denounce the child like debating tactic of calling those who a oppose you as “stupid” or the many other invectives common in the liberal political culture

How many times has Obama been called “incompetent, Muslim, paling around with terrorists, a terrorist lover, etc,etc?

Like I said before, climb down off your self righteous high horse.

The various derangement syndromes;

Palin derangement

Teaparty derangement

Bush Drangement

O’Donnell Derangement

Reagan Legacy Derangement

Fox News Derangement

Look, you can bury your head in the sand over at kos or Huff Post if you want to live in an alternate universe which often seems to be the case. Maybe the NYTimes suits you but it doesn’t help make a logical argument. This admin has failed. O’Donnell may or may not win but the empty and hypocritical tactics used to this point are clear.

Coons should run on higher taxes and more government, that would be honest. Then when you win you would have a chance to govern. Instead we get the stealth of “hope and change” with few policy abstracts focused on and an MSM that is 90% for one rather extreme wing of one party. Include fox in that average. You can’t even admit this filter?

has anybody noticed that the only person west of the potomac who has taken any interest in this person is sarah palin? can the national media report on national issues plz and not primary elections in a state that most americans couldn’t point out on a map? are we washingtonians boring you with ballot initiative 1100, or the murray-rossi race? no.

Well, I guess you’ve been reduced to Michelle-in-Utah and Righter formulaic crap, Chris. A shame. I feel the loss of a reasonable rightist voice.

Since January 2009, Chris, what Congressional Democrat has voted for a tax increase?

What tax has been raised?

What new tax has been imposed?

Are you paying new taxes?

You paid less in taxes for 2009 than you did for 2007, didn’t you?

Chris Hanson said:
The various derangement syndromes;

Chris Hanson said:
This admin has failed.

What would you call that? The Obama derangement sydrome?

The fundamentals of the Teaparty was contempt for TARP which preserved the government managment of banking and the economy which ironically favors both elite government and private special interests. It also preserves a system that funds a welfare state with debasing currency that many are invested in.

The Keynesian system which depends on credit expanding faster than income isn’t something that can be objectively supported at this point. It simply isn’t intellectually supportable when we consider the long-term in impacts of destroying private confidence and the value of the currency. You may not like the arguments but you have to do better than calling it “unintellectual”. Again an irony that if the poor understood what fiat money abuse was it wouldn’t be on the side of TARP that created much of the backdrop that abuses the poor most directly. The greater sin is in the liberal elite who might understand but turn a blind eye for political and social advantages they have gained in the age of this crony and elite financial system. Ironic still that is Bush II worst social legacy that has been even more reinforced under Obama. It’s almost Orwellian in contridiction, liberals supporting a nationalized banking disaster that bailed out both the rich and cheats the poor out of a stronger economy.

Every effort is made to avoid the substance of the Teaparty origination. Can you explain this without a phony redefinition as a debating tactic?

Who is arguing to extend or let expise the current tax rates?

This isn’t obvious?

A banking system whose government mismangement in 08′ in particular was far more responsible than the narrative of “markets failing” as the root of our current excess correction.

We should get to the heart of Keynesian fraud.

Hannity’s softball pitch is looking nice.

Chris Hanson said:
Who is arguing to extend or let expise the current tax rates? This isn’t obvious?

No, Chris, it isn’t. You rightists have been whining about taxes going up since the moment President Obama was sworn it, but the contrary is true. Americans tended to receive more refunds in 2010 for the 2009 tax year than ever before. Yet, you rightists kvetch incessantly about tax increases. Is this stupidity or dishonesty. I fear it’s the latest. An intentional effort to slander our President and harm our nation. That’s shameful.

Christine did just fine in this interview and she is smart to stay away from the rest of the lamestreamers who are indeed out to destroy her. The media is anti-women, especially conservative women. At some point, the women of NOW should stand up and say cease and desist, but given the attacks are all against conservative women NOW is relatively silent – for shame. They only do a disservice to themselves.

Christine will be on CNN on 13 October, when they air a debate between her and Coons. Woffie will be asking the questions (along with others not from CNN). You can bet your bottom dollar that Woffie will be snarky and rude to her, and kiss-up and make excuses for him (just like the Glenn did with his piece above). There has not been one headline about the “bearded marxist” yet Glenn automatically links to Coon’s defense of his outrageous statement and buys it hook, line, and sinker. Typical double standard around this board.

Glad to see Dan is at least consistent in advising his columnists to attack republicans and kiss democrats…..I guess it’s that MSNBC=mediaite relationship.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
Well Blower, get busy working for O’Donnells campaign. At the very you should start doing YouTube videos for her.

I know you are the worst person to ever walk the Earth so you don’t want to lose your title. So Coons would be just second to you.

The issue of tax increases certainly applies when talking about Chris Coons. The man ran on a campaign platform of not raising taxes. He then not only went back on his word but he morphed into a steroidal tax-and-spender.

One of the first things he did after his election was raise property taxes by 5%. The next year he raised property taxes again, this time by 17%. And then for good measure boosted them a third time, by 25%. He also dreamt up new taxes which should be collected, and not from expected financial sources but on a variety of civic services, such as paramedic dispatches to dialing 911 from a cell phone.

The Real Royal King said:
No, Chris, it isn’t. You rightists have been whining about taxes going up since the moment President Obama was sworn it, but the contrary is true. Americans tended to receive more refunds in 2010 for the 2009 tax year than ever before. Yet, you rightists kvetch incessantly about tax increases. Is this stupidity or dishonesty. I fear it’s the latest. An intentional effort to slander our President and harm our nation. That’s shameful.

President dishonest has the hammer coming down beginning in 2011, because he didn’t want to effect the “reelection” of his progressive idiots. Of course they haven’t passed a budget yet for this year. This doesn’t even include all the beautiful new taxes and skyrocketing premiums that will go into effect with Obysmalcare.

President Obama’s budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals.

1) On people making more than $250,000.

$338 billion – Bush tax cuts expire
$179 billlion – eliminate itemized deduction
$118 billion – capital gains tax hike

Total: $636 billion/10 years

2) Businesses:

$17 billion – Reinstate Superfund taxes
$24 billion – tax carried-interest as income
$5 billion – codify “economic substance doctrine”
$61 billion – repeal LIFO
$210 billion – international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform
$4 billion – information reporting for rental payments
$5.3 billion – excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas
$3.4 billion – repeal expensing of tangible drilling costs
$62 million – repeal deduction for tertiary injectants
$49 million – repeal passive loss exception for working interests in oil and natural gas properties
$13 billion – repeal manufacturing tax deduction for oil and natural gas companies
$1 billion – increase to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers
$882 million – eliminate advanced earned income tax credit

Total: $353 billion/10 years

This came from that conservative think tank….ABC News

musiccityvic said:
President dishonest has the hammer coming down beginning in 2011, because he didn’t want to effect the “reelection” of his progressive idiots. Of course they haven’t passed a budget yet for this year. This doesn’t even include all the beautiful new taxes and skyrocketing premiums that will go into effect with Obysmalcare. President Obama’s budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals. 1) On people making more than $250,000. $338 billion – Bush tax cuts expire$179 billlion – eliminate itemized deduction$118 billion – capital gains tax hike Total: $636 billion/10 years 2) Businesses: $17 billion – Reinstate Superfund taxes$24 billion – tax carried-interest as income$5 billion – codify “economic substance doctrine”$61 billion – repeal LIFO$210 billion – international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform$4 billion – information reporting for rental payments$5.3 billion – excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas$3.4 billion – repeal expensing of tangible drilling costs$62 million – repeal deduction for tertiary injectants$49 million – repeal passive loss exception for working interests in oil and natural gas properties$13 billion – repeal manufacturing tax deduction for oil and natural gas companies$1 billion – increase to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers$882 million – eliminate advanced earned income tax credit Total: $353 billion/10 years This came from that conservative think tank….ABC News

Yes, it is always what’s going to happen with you guys: Never what has happened; And, when it doesn’t happen, you say you never said it was going to happen then disappear. Michelle-in-Utah, Righter, Marceaux, I mean Blower, and you are masters at that. The most intellectually dishonest people in Amerika.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
Well Blower, get busy working for O’Donnells campaign. At the very you should start doing YouTube videos for her.

The problem with that is the videos of my cat rolling around on the floor all cute and shit get more viewers than Blowers….

Stating that taxes have yet to increase as an economic defense of the business and private sector hostile Obama culture is no defense at all. The fact that give the market negative signals from inception, change their minds like flakes that they are creates the economic killing culture we have experienced.

They control both Houses and the WH, delaying tax increases a year will create little investment incentive and another year of uncertainty. Truthfully it isn’t going to get better until it becomes obvious to the market that worst is over and that the term will end in 2012. If the mid-terms go close to what is expected there will be a rally and we may already have seen some of that in recent days. I wouldn’t get too excited because the writing is already on the wall that the House and Senate will be bypassed by likely a more extreme form of executive abuse. Everyday you can see the talking points about how stupid the public really is as it gets ready to vote out congress. The ground work is being formed for executive authority to make the difference without the votes and the phony 08′ mandate a memory.

Regardless a key part of the positive impact of tax cuts are long-term incentives. It’s why Keynesian stimulus almost always fail historically. As with Clinton the best political plan would be to run center right from here on and then distort the recovery that should come from private sector relief if nothing else. I’m not so sure confidence will return since the basic Keynesian system of government run banking and credit excess is a ship that sailed. To think the private sector can step up with the current debt ratio, political extremists in the WH even if decapitated without Congress may be wishful thinking. So the whole “this is 94′ and Clinton plays against the new congress back to a majority vote” is buying yesterday’s narrative. It looks more like Truman or Carter going down in flames and I suspect like most things in a declining society to be more dramatic given the levels of leverage there is built in the current system. A key point ignored with the false 1930′s comparisons. In those days the debt levels were very small and the government to a far larger extent didn’t back private sector debts aside from a very small mortgage backed security sector. Now the debts are huge, with global and domestic implications and largely backed by governments. When gold backed debt failed in the 30′s society was a mess but gold only changed hands and the debts were laregly gone. It wasn’t pleasant but consider the situation today where fiat payments can’t be met but are backed by governments that can’t maintain private sector confidence. The key flaw in Keynesian systems is that it only works in one direction with expanding credit not contracting.

TARP was an indication that too-big-to-fail is now a global policy. Developing countries and many developed minority interests will likely reject this policy unless massive credit flows are directed toward their interests. This is unlikely as well. Obama can complain about the mess he inherited but it’s important that he supported the basic conclusion of TARP and the Keynesian structures that are at the heart of both the 08′ failure and aftermath as well as many pending Ponzi failures that await. In the long-run it might have been better had McCain and RINOS had come to power in 08′ and taken the hit. McCain missed his moment in his life by denouncing TARP and Keynes but instead the Teaparty was born as he went along, he can never live it down. None of this changes the actual damages Obama has brought by creating a maximum of uncertainty by attacking the private sector with a team of armchair academics as an economic team.

It’s more important that the false MSM/Liberal narratives about what is driving the Teaparty or that Bush II or Hoover were “right wing” when in fact they were pandering status quo moderates on economics that ruined their legacy. The important lesson is the Keynesianism failed failed then as now and the entire system is credit excess disaster based on massive government expansions due to wartime economic models. WWI, WWII and Cold War being three examples of expansions that have never been recovered from. It’s what took the final link to gold away in 71′ and created global fiat casino culture that has been progressively less stable to this day. It’s these massive imbalances and fluctuations need to be moderated and debts need to be resolved in an orderly fashion to restore stability. It’s either that of face a declining birth rate for generations similar to that of Japan or the EU states.

Haimerej said:
Also, Bell’s problems run deeper than voting for higher salaries. They were paying themselves for bogus meetings and giving themselves loans.

Christine has (allegedly, I’m not even sure if this is confirmed) used campaign funds to pay for her campaign headquarters. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Maybe, I seem to recall the 1/2 Governor of Alaska having some problems with putting in claims that were bogus to be compensated by taxpayers while she was at home.
I think ODonnel is right to not turn a local election into a national media circus but she has some questions to answer about her personnel finances. Anyone can travel the state making general campaign promises that the public wants to hear. If hse’s campaigning on fiscal responsibility then hers is up for examination.

Haimerej said:
The people of Bell got what they voted for. That’s merely a lesson on why it’s important to be an informed voter.

like america?

gordonbloyershow said:
You folks do understant the people in Bell are DEMOCRATS.

If I, as a campaign consultant, had a candidate that media is trying to destroy it becomes my job to destroy my candidates opponent. When I get done with him the voters will know my candidates opponent is the worst person to ever walk the Earth.

dear Bloyer, the only obvious thing here is your eagerness to “destroy” anything/anyone you disagree with. Listen to you fantasize about your powers!

It was the Right wing that began the practice of slandering, smearing, and trying to destroy their “enemies.” The Right simply justifies its own tactics by projecting them onto the Left. Psychology 101

Bottom line, if your candidate has a brain and can punch above her weight in front of a camera, she doesn’t need anyone else to protect her

Let’s try to remember that November’s elections, are not about personalities. November is all about firing the fringe left in DC, period. Fortunately, many Dems will chip in to achieve that goal.

The Real Royal King said:
Yes, it is always what’s going to happen with you guys: Never what has happened; And, when it doesn’t happen, you say you never said it was going to happen then disappear. Michelle-in-Utah, Righter, Marceaux, I mean Blower, and you are masters at that. The most intellectually dishonest people in Amerika.

You can’t get a grip that the markets anticipate policy? Why do you think the New Deal failed until the war buildup began in 39′?? Capital went on strike then as now until the policy belief of government led extremes was reduced or eliminated. Without a massive wartime economy FDR would have no legacy with the public at all. As for the massive Ponzi debts baked into the pie who was more responsible as there isn’t leader since that time who showed the guts to address the fraud? Reagan and Goldwater hinted as does the Teaparty by rejecting TARP but in the end the game is likely to go a little further until the 10 X 08′ Crisis comes. Even with printed money confidence fails in the basic process. The Panic 1907 led to the Federal Reserve Scheme. Perhaps the IMF can be expanded for a time to recharge foreign credit expansion with cleaner balance sheets to abuse but there aren’t the tools in the West to even exploit such a development.

200 Trillion is total debt and obligations, national income with ever rising transfer payments under 15 trillion. Confidence in private sector near zero. A perfect storm of a fool following a fool; Hooverism to FDR, Bush II to Obama.

The nation and world suffers.

Now we have a system with all the worst attributes of 19th century cycles, only more drawn out with all the culture of socialist repression and dispair. What will they think of next? All the while the MSM a willing statist tool to distort what the Teaparty is centered on.

Chris Hanson said:
The fundamentals of the Teaparty was contempt for TARP which preserved the government managment of banking and the economy which ironically favors both elite government and private special interests.

your previous statement criticizes actions which help the very people you are defending in this statement

fallenchicken said:
Hannity’s softball pitch is looking nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=561mF9xVowg

gordonbloyershow said:
I know you are the worst person to ever walk the Earth so you don’t want to lose your title. So Coons would be just second to you.

I always feel so warm inside
you should write for hallmark

musiccityvic said:
$17 billion – Reinstate Superfund taxes
$24 billion – tax carried-interest as income

Although I love it when people bring facts, are you just arguing oama not rasing taxes or are you defending such things as
superfund taxes corporations which may dump toxic items – BP sulf of Mexico
tax carried-interest as income – compensates someone by allowing for an investment tax – at least make it fair that they pay same tax on all income
passive loss exception – they should get more exemption than my corporation?

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
Once your candidates stop accepting out of state money in an attempt to influence the election, we will stop caring.

Well I kinda agree but it’s not as if both sides don’t do it.

Chris Hanson said:
As “dumb” as Palin?

It’s always interesting when liberals play the phony “brain power card”. In every topic of debate the left claims the edge, “settled science” when they have a group of self-proclaimed “experts” on any topic that just so happen to largely share the same socialist backdrop. Many largely hang around union educational and research enclaves and generally hold the private sector in contempt. This is probably where the talking point originated. Also the roots of the MSM developed into another form of “expert” opinion and assumed authority, enve more laughable.

The party of the “people” always cling to the Ivory Tower of these enclaves and never miss a chance to degrade and belittle bright people who advanced without elite privlidge while ignoring the many ignorant elements such as Biden, Maxine Waters (dumb as shoe leather), Al Gore (lower grades than Bush, complete fool given a media pass) and many others. The mythology of many presidents have fallen this way; liberals smart, GOP dumb. It can be traced back to 1900 at least with the rise of populist progressive causes founded at the University level. Wilson engaged it with some success. The party that would win most elections in prison systems as well as mental hospitals and welfare offices makes the claim.

When you have tens of millions divided over political views regarding the size and policy of government do you really think there could be large gap either way on I.Q. or real intelligence by any measure? That is amazingly ignorant if you do. Zero understanding of macro statistics and population samples. A perfect example of the real difference in cultures which is pompous certitude which has nothing to do with brains but does mark one political culture in particular. A curious trait that has nothing to do with raw intelligence.

O’Donnell and Palin are obviously fairly smart relative to the general population and politicians in general. Many of whom regardless of party are not the sharpest of pencils in the box as this isn’t as important as the many skill sets that are required. How else can you explain a Joe Biden as a glaring example of stupid rising near the top of a power structure?

I’m just sick of the MSM culture point that flatters themselves in the same stroke with zero empirical evidence to back up such a claim. FDR, Truman, Nixon, Eisenhower (the last two were certainly the brightest in raw intellect by the way) being perfect example of presidents who lacked formal educational or deeply credited intellectual prowess but managed there jobs rather shrewdly regardless of policy judgement. Johnson, Carter, Bush I and II, Hoover all of whom were better educated but failed in large measure. Now we have an affirmative action president with a sealed record and we can see how this is going. It doesn’t matter what his SAT score really was you can see some of the skill sets, please don’t try to expand the brain power myth in this case. That’s a bit of a sad joke. The liberal brain claims is an even more inane on the face of it.

I like reading your posts; I’m trying to measure my response to what you’ve said. I don’t think either Left or Right has a corner on brain power (which can be measured many ways). Nor do I think that IQ and vocabulary are always guarantee great political outcomes – clearly they don’t. Further, I think any news organization that has a predetermined slant has it wrong. All that said, I do believe that politics demands thinking in order to solve problems. Thinking – as opposed to positioning, or propaganda, or slogans, or “talking points” – is in short supply in our day. IMO. Secondly, I only observe with my own eyes and ears that many candidates cannot seem to think on their feet. I don’t think the expectation that someone should be able to think should immediately be twisted into “the media just wants to destroy my candidate.” That’s nothing but rationalization. It is a premise that Ailes and Fox and Rush Limbaugh have very effectively positioned – “the drive by media” – and acquired a ton of power and $$ with. Are you arguing that propaganda is not effective? There have been plenty of moments in 20th cen history when it carried whole nations to hell. I know I generalize, but i don’t think the Right wants “thinking.” Thinking is dangerous. They want candidates and supporters who will commit to an orthodoxy and not deviate from it for any reason. That’s because they don’t consider their opponents legitimate equals; they think of them as traitors and enemies. You don’t reason with your enemies. So going in front of non-Fox cameras under is very risky.

What am I missing?

Chris Hanson said:

Now we have a system with all the worst attributes of 19th century cycles, only more drawn out with all the culture of socialist repression and dispair. What will they think of next? All the while the MSM a willing statist tool to distort what the Teaparty is centered on.

Your points about the economy are well taken but I think the Tea Party needs to be concerned about it’s image and it’s leaders. Glenn Becks rally sure made it seem like it was very about about right wing conservative Christians who are not just focused on fiscal issues.

MrAut said:
I like reading your posts;

What am I missing?

interesting assessment – lets ponder the responses

I think Christine is guilty till proven innocent.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
The problem with that is the videos of my cat rolling around on the floor all cute and shit get more viewers than Blowers….

Maybe Marceaux, I mean Blower, should roll around on the floor. I suspect he rolls very well.

Guilty or innocent, O’Donnell should have be prepared to answer that question.

Anderson was pretty sarcastic about O’Donnell appearing on Hannity last night, but I seem to recall that he was pretty pissed when Hillary Clinton cancelled an interview with him after he and his “guests” kept making insulting remarks about her and her supporters during the presidential campaign. She ended up giving the interview to Wolf Blitzer.

the bottom line is this..when hannity does an interview with anyone who cant think on their feet..he feeds them the answers within the question…it is like doing the shari lewis and lamb chop…you know what lamb chop is going to say because shari lewis is saying it (i miss shari lewis)..this is how he interviews light weights..if he was fair and balanced he would interview coons….coons hasnt said anything about her past statements..if he has tell me when and where…this witch has no idea what is coming next….the tea bags ..if he (hannity) was a lawyer(what a joke) he would be accused of leading the witness….there is nothing wrong with having a different point of view…but when you dont have a job..cant pay your bills..and have never had one..and are hanging out wiht witches in high school..what good catholic did that??..you have no business running for the united states senate without a plan to help solve the nations problems….maybe I need a house to fall on her or hit her with a bucket of water….this country better wake up….the tea bags dont have a plan to solve the ecomomic problems today..you cant just grin and say i was in hign school…i guess her catholic faith failed her then if she was hanging out with witches… and she going to blame everyone else for my problems except herself…what a tool…..why is she on hannity anyway ..do they tape hannity in delaware ? keeep drinking the fox kool-aid…………………UGH

The Real Royal King said:
Maybe Marceaux, I mean Blower, should roll around on the floor. I suspect he rolls very well.

that would be GOOD video

O’Donnell does come off as charming, but wanting to avoid all of her history keeps the subject alive. She was foreclosed on because she works for free! Works for who? The tax issue was all a mistake, she has the letter from the IRS, which you will NEVER see! Most of her tax ideas are the same as Coons, but she will be right, he will be wrong! She is wonderful ,wonderful, wonderful,by what standard?

@playswithknives, “has anybody noticed that the only person west of the potomac who has taken any interest in this person is sarah palin?”

Anderson has the same obsession with O’Donnell that he had/has with Palin. Even with the failure of DADT, he wasted most of last night’s show on a candidate who is 11 points behind her opponent. He is obviously trying to make O’Donnell, along with Palin, the face of the GOP. Anyone who believes that O’Donnell and/or Palin are representing more than a small far right fringe of the Republican party is an idiot.

Actually palin is wrong here. As a senator her decisions affect everybody so everybody has to know about her. This bias shit from the right is honestly getting ridiculous and it’s only an excuse now.

timcajun said:
O’Donnell does come off as charming, but wanting to avoid all of her history keeps the subject alive. She was foreclosed on because she works for free! Works for who? The tax issue was all a mistake, she has the letter from the IRS, which you will NEVER see! Most of her tax ideas are the same as Coons, but she will be right, he will be wrong! She is wonderful ,wonderful, wonderful,by what standard?

Are you a complete idiot or do you just like to spread lies…which is what you just did.

Look at her web site, there you will find the IRS letter that you say is not there…you lier!

Haven’t you ever had the IRS make a mistake on your taxes…I have…I got it cleared up. The IRS hires so many temp workers and they just don’t have the time to train them properly…Even the IRS warns you not to rely on the information they give out…

Try this you idiot…we know you don’t like O’Donnell…

Try telling us what Coons stands for… and NO, their ideas are not the same. If you hear him agreeing with O’Donnell, then he is lying. And if you believe it, you are gullible.

If you still believe they are the same, then tell us how he is going to implement what he says.

The truth is, he can’t he will vote with Harry Reid…remember Coons is Reid’s new pet!

“Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept,
the nomination of my party for another term as your President.”
In a speech to be delivered by Barack Obama on or before March 31, 2012,
Original quote from LBJ’s, 3/31/68 speech to the nation!

Probably not bad to remind ourselves too that the Founders conceived Senators as older, wiser, more experienced and stable, serving longer terms…to provide ballast to the “people’s” representatives in the House. Just sayin’

In addition to being marginalized by the internet, the MSM has also marginalized itself to a great degree with it’s inherent political bias. Communicating ideas to the people can be done more directly now, and checking and vetting can be done by the people more directly also. The MSM’s power and influence, and ergo, their importance is waning.

mikey970 said:
the bottom line is this..when hannity does an interview with anyone who cant think on their feet..he feeds them the answers within the question…it is like doing the shari lewis and lamb chop…you know what lamb chop is going to say because shari lewis is saying it (i miss shari lewis)..this is how he interviews light weights..if he was fair and balanced he would interview coons….coons hasnt said anything about her past statements..if he has tell me when and where…this witch has no idea what is coming next….the tea bags ..if he (hannity) was a lawyer(what a joke) he would be accused of leading the witness….there is nothing wrong with having a different point of view…but when you dont have a job..cant pay your bills..and have never had one..and are hanging out wiht witches in high school..what good catholic did that??..you have no business running for the united states senate without a plan to help solve the nations problems….maybe I need a house to fall on her or hit her with a bucket of water….this country better wake up….the tea bags dont have a plan to solve the ecomomic problems today..you cant just grin and say i was in hign school…i guess her catholic faith failed her then if she was hanging out with witches… and she going to blame everyone else for my problems except herself…what a tool…..why is she on hannity anyway ..do they tape hannity in delaware ? keeep drinking the fox kool-aid…………………UGH

I love you Leftists. Everyone on the Left is a brilliant statesman but everyone that is conservative must be an idiot, especially if they are women for not following the Obama line. Even after he makes stupid statement after stupid statement the left wingers just ignore it. Democrats…The party of sexists, racists, and liars.

no-touchy-touchy said:
Although I love it when people bring facts, are you just arguing oama not rasing taxes or are you defending such things assuperfund taxes corporations which may dump toxic items – BP sulf of Mexicotax carried-interest as income – compensates someone by allowing for an investment tax – at least make it fair that they pay same tax on all incomepassive loss exception – they should get more exemption than my corporation?

I’m technically arguing that Obama hasn’t raised any taxes, of course I didn’t even mention the Tobacco tax that is a direct tax on the lower and middle class. I don’t think raising capital gains taxes do anything but remove more incentive to get back in the market and provide companies with capital to grow the economy.

seems theres a new memo out to the angry insulting jerks who use the phrase “teabaggers” to now call Odonnell a “grifter”.

how disgusting!

i am from delaware and know coons from working with him on a campaign in 1988 and know he would never tolerate such horrid insulting language!

knock it off!

dcmediasux said:
seems theres a new memo out to the angry insulting jerks who use the phrase “teabaggers” to now call Odonnell a “grifter”.

how disgusting!

i am from delaware and know coons from working with him on a campaign in 1988 and know he would never tolerate such horrid insulting language!

knock it off!

Some people just don’t mature….they just keep their sophomoric high school mentality, regardless of how asinine it makes them look. Unfortunately, the media doesn’t seem immune from this trait either….sad.

She wasn’t above such personal attacks herself, though, saying opponent Chris Coons “made some very anti-American statements” and noted his now-semi-infamous “bearded Marxist” lie about himself that was meant as a tongue-in-cheek crack.”

Yeah, spin it, Glenn.

Every time a lib gets caught with his foot in his mouth, it is always is explained away as, “I was joking; I was just kidding. It was satire!”

@dcmediasux, “seems theres a new memo out to the angry insulting jerks who use the phrase “teabaggers” to now call Odonnell a “grifter”.”

Not surprising. Altho the AC360 blog has a detailed list of how to get posted to their blog site, their blogs, are filled with insults towards Republicans, including, but not limited to the words “tea bagger”, yet they block fact based criticism against Democrats and even celebs they favor. Larry King also doesn’t discourage Bill Maher from saying it ad nauseam when he is on LKL.

Here are 2 rules that will win you “approval” from the 360 moderators which they themselves break on a regular basis, esp. #5:

“5. We like criticism. We’re big fans of the 1st Amendment – we use the free press every day. We aren’t afraid of criticism in your comments, but let’s keep it intelligent and thoughtful, perhaps even constructive.

6. Language. Comments should be G-rated; PG at worst. (And that includes these: @#$%%$#&).”

Do they really believe the word “tea bagger” is PG? Maybe in Anderson’s world it is, but not in decent society.
.

notsofast said:
She wasn’t above such personal attacks herself, though, saying opponent Chris Coons “made some very anti-American statements” and noted his now-semi-infamous “bearded Marxist” lie about himself that was meant as a tongue-in-cheek crack.”

Yeah, spin it, Glenn.

Every time a lib gets caught with his foot in his mouth, it is always is explained away as, “I was joking; I was just kidding. It was satire!”

Wait a minute, I thought satire was what Sarah Palin defnded Rush Limbaugh with. Is Rush Limbaugh a liberal?

musiccityvic said:
I don’t think raising capital gains taxes do anything but remove more incentive to get back in the market and provide companies with capital to grow the economy.

Agree, but when it’s compensation, there will always be abuse.
take most of it in shares, then turn around and sell.
Let’s make it fair
I have owned a business for over 20 years
and most of the items you quote go to corps that pay little or no taxes in us
I paid mine

BatBoy, I saw the IRS letter posted. Where did it say this was a mistake? It was just a review and request for more information! Wait I’m sure you are right and I’m a liar. You hurt my feelings and I fell sad! Pray for me to not be such a liar!

Chris Hanson said:
You can’t get a grip that the markets anticipate policy? Why do you think the New Deal failed until the war buildup began in 39′?? Capital went on strike then as now until the policy belief of government led extremes was reduced or eliminated. Without a massive wartime economy FDR would have no legacy with the public at all. As for the massive Ponzi debts baked into the pie who was more responsible as there isn’t leader since that time who showed the guts to address the fraud? Reagan and Goldwater hinted as does the Teaparty by rejecting TARP but in the end the game is likely to go a little further until the 10 X 08′ Crisis comes. Even with printed money confidence fails in the basic process. The Panic 1907 led to the Federal Reserve Scheme. Perhaps the IMF can be expanded for a time to recharge foreign credit expansion with cleaner balance sheets to abuse but there aren’t the tools in the West to even exploit such a development. 200 Trillion is total debt and obligations, national income with ever rising transfer payments under 15 trillion. Confidence in private sector near zero. A perfect storm of a fool following a fool; Hooverism to FDR, Bush II to Obama. The nation and world suffers. Now we have a system with all the worst attributes of 19th century cycles, only more drawn out with all the culture of socialist repression and dispair. What will they think of next? All the while the MSM a willing statist tool to distort what the Teaparty is centered on.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Wait a minute, I thought satire was what Sarah Palin defnded Rush Limbaugh with. Is Rush Limbaugh a liberal?

Rush is quite liberal in the buffet line.