This is just too anti-climatic to even respond now.

It’s 2011 . Who cares ? Why do it ?

Oh . A book .

Okay, he’s gay. Good for you, dide. Now, go back to work.

I think that far from expecting to be vilified, people come out now expecting a degree of celebrity because they’ve chosen to tell us that they’re gay or lesbian or whatever. This may come as a surcprise, but most of the people they’re coming out to really don’t care these days.

The days of the behind-the-hand whispers and finger pointing are largely over – except on the left. By and large, they seem to be the only group (with the exception of the very far right religious) who really cares if someone is gay.

I wonder why that is?

Okay, Don, you’re gay. Yawn.

Now read some headlines.

I wonder why poor Tommy reported this story yesterday and did not permit comments? Could it be he was afraid the libs here would show themselves to be the homophobes that they are?
The left pretends to love gay people but they attack republicans by calling them gay. Hmmmm?

Don Lemon is gay? Next you’re gonna tell me Ricky Martin is gay!
jk

Why do some people always act like it is some big secret when they *come out*? (I wonder if Maddow was thinking of him when she said her fellow journos should come out?)

It’s sad that people feel they need to hide who they are. Always reminds me of Harvey Milk when he gave his *come out* speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvZIoZNYTN8

I’m glad Lemon addressed the extreme bigotry within the African American community towards gay people. It is stunning that people who always claim to be the subjects of bigotry are themselves bigoted towards people who are born gay. like Lemon said, he was born gay just as he was born black.

The down low lifestyle is a deadly problem, and they should have addressed that here.

I give Mark Joyela credit for post this and allowing comments, something his colleague Tommy Christopher, refused to do in his article about Lemon.

On a side note, Don Lemon should be viewed as an individual – not as a member of some racial collective or collective based on sexual preferences. He is an individual, and should be treated as such.

But it appears that most people don’t have the intellectual capacity to view people as actual individuals. It’s easier to just lump them into groups and make judgements based on others actions. That is why I disagree with Affirmative Action or Racial Profiling.

Honestly I don’t really care if Don Lemon is gay. What he does with another man/woman in the privacy of his home is his business.

gordonbloyershow said:
I wonder why poor Tommy reported this story yesterday and did not permit comments? Could it be he was afraid the libs here would show themselves to be the homophobes that they are?
The left pretends to love gay people but they attack republicans by calling them gay. Hmmmm?

No I don’t agree with that claim. Personally, I think he refused to allow open and honest discussion about the topic because he basically accused the African-American community of being bigots against homosexuals.

Tommy Christopher wrote:

“Whatever the effects on Lemon’s career, the decision to go public is a courageous one, and his willingness to challenge his own cultural norms is doubly so. The phenomenon he describes was made evident when 70% of black voters voted in favor of California’s Proposition 8, which outlawed same-sex marriages. Exit polling also showed that 84% of regular churchgoers supported that measure.”

He wrote this but didn’t want others to comment on such information.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don-lemon-comes-out-publicly-acknowledges-he-is-gay-via-twitternew-york-times/

Mas Liberty5 said:
“Whatever the effects on Lemon’s career, the decision to go public is a courageous one, and his willingness to challenge his own cultural norms is doubly so. The phenomenon he describes was made evident when 70% of black voters voted in favor of California’s Proposition 8, which outlawed same-sex marriages. Exit polling also showed that 84% of regular churchgoers supported that measure.”

which is funny, because I remember after those stats came out, a bunch of people tried to claim they weren’t true.

Tommy said he closed the comments because of some initial comments that were made on the post. I didn’t see it when it first posted, so i don’t know what happened.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/psychology-today-asks-then-un-asks-why-are-black-women-less-physically-attractive-than-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-465723

Mas Liberty5 said:
I give Mark Joyela credit for post this and allowing comments, something his colleague Tommy Christopher, refused to do in his article about Lemon. On a side note, Don Lemon should be viewed as an individual – not as a member of some racial collective or collective based on sexual preferences. He is an individual, and should be treated as such. But it appears that most people don’t have the intellectual capacity to view people as actual individuals. It’s easier to just lump them into groups and make judgements based on others actions. That is why I disagree with Affirmative Action or Racial Profiling. Honestly I don’t really care if Don Lemon is gay. What he does with another man/woman in the privacy of his home is his business.

The sad thing is that we’ve shifted in a social direction where even saying something like that is considered ignorant and bigoted. Unless you do anything but shower him with praise and tell him how “courageous” he is, it’s considered the same as condemning him. It’s not good enough to just say that what he does on his own time is his own business and that he should be seen as an individual. That does no good for the crusade for Social Justice.

It truly seems we have no expectation to privacy, anymore.

@ sarainitaly,

I’m skeptical about Tommy’s reason for not allowing an open discussion. But it doesn’t surprise me.

@ Kitsune,

Fair point. However, Don Lemon is pushing his business into the public spot light, and trying to make money off of it via a book. He has opened himself up for criticism. But why anyone would care or criticize him for what he does in his own bedroom is unknown to me. He just needs to stop playing a victim because he is not a victim.

Don is absolutely right on this, black folks need to get with the facts of life, gays are here to stay. Hopefully more black gays in high profile positions like Don will come out like he did and tell their bigoted sisters and brothers to deal with it and shut up, or not deal with and still shut up.

sarainitaly said:
which is funny, because I remember after those stats came out, a bunch of people tried to claim they weren’t true.

Tommy said he closed the comments because of some initial comments that were made on the post. I didn’t see it when it first posted, so i don’t know what happened.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/psychology-today-asks-then-un-asks-why-are-black-women-less-physically-attractive-than-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-465723

It likely had something to do with Nutso’s fondness for crude jokes.

Always the same comments: Who cares? Why is this news? Like no one knew! I didn’t know! I don’t care! Next you’ll tell me that Liberace was gay!! And on. The interesting this is that many of these comments aren’t from homophobes. Some are from straights who honestly don’t see this as a big deal (presumably because they don’t pay attention to the news and they don’t know that gay teens are killing themselves in record numbers?), while others are from gay people who came out with little or no fanfare and don’t see it as their issue. The majority are from people who think that this shouldn’t be a big deal any more – they’ve got friends/family who are gay and/or have a “live and let live” mentality; they feel there are more important issues to concern ourselves with than who is sleeping with whom; they really just don’t care. It shouldn’t be a big deal that Don Lemon is gay. But it is.

It is a big deal because there are people in this country who make a very good living off the manufactured outrage against gay people. Hate groups like NOM and the AFA work night and day, spending millions of dollars in the process, in an attempt to turn society against gay people. They rail against the “far left, radical, homosexual agenda,” and they warn that The Gays are trying to “indoctrinate” your children through their anti-bullying campaigns. They don’t want The Gays to have the same rights and freedoms as everyone else because, well, they’re gay. I applaud those of you who want coming out to no longer be viewed as a big deal. I pray for a day when it isn’t a big deal. A day when we take on a “live and let live” attitude and focus our attention on the real problems in the world. People in our own country can’t find work, are losing their homes and are starving in the streets, yet the hate groups want you to focus your attentions on gays who want to get married. Could it be that they’re part of a larger…conspiracy?

Don is the only one who needs to get over it; nobody cares about his personal sexual orientation. He should thank Rachel Maddow for outing him and be done with it.

MartiniShark said:
Why would that particular story be shielded in this manner? Seems awfully odd, considering some of the dreck I have seen allowed to stand.

Tommy said: It is a matter of degree and timing (the Lemon story broke late on a Sunday, when there are few to no moderators available).

This excuse is dubious at best. Too many stories break late every Sunday for an aggregate news outfit to not have a sufficient number of staff on duty in order to avoid “closed for comments” situations.

Also, it did not go unnoticed that there were plenty of moderators available for the rest of the “Breaking” stories which Mediaite published late on Sunday.

But, even if what you claim is true, why did the article remain closed for comments the next day? Or didn’t anybody show up for work on Monday?

Mas Liberty5 said:
@ sarainitaly, I’m skeptical about Tommy’s reason for not allowing an open discussion. But it doesn’t surprise me. @ Kitsune, Fair point. However, Don Lemon is pushing his business into the public spot light, and trying to make money off of it via a book. He has opened himself up for criticism. But why anyone would care or criticize him for what he does in his own bedroom is unknown to me. He just needs to stop playing a victim because he is not a victim.

Fair point to you, on that, as well. My thoughts just went back to Maddow’s “If you’re gay, you have a responsibility to come out in public.” comment. The idea that people don’t have a choice in the matter.

One, Mr. Lemon needs to understand that he was not hired to broadcast his personal story. Second, his calling out the black community in particular shows his racism.

What is it about religion that makes people so intolerant? Do they teach you to become bigots in sunday school or something?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
It likely had something to do with Nutso’s fondness for crude jokes.

Son, you are a crude joke.

I wish I could make millions being a victim.

Mas Liberty5 said:
I wish I could make millions being a victim.

The American Dream, baby.

Mas Liberty5 said:
I give Mark Joyela credit for post this and allowing comments, something his colleague Tommy Christopher, refused to do in his article about Lemon.

sarainitaly said:
Tommy said he closed the comments because of some initial comments that were made on the post. I didn’t see it when it first posted, so i don’t know what happened.

Actually, I had nothing to do with the decision to close comments on that post, but I wholeheartedly agree with it. Funny that people who lament the lack of “open and honest discussion” feel so free to be dishonest about the closing of comments on that thread.

We’ve had this discussion before, but in case you missed it, there are a number of factors to consider. Some have pointed out that gender and sex-based insults are all-too-common in comment threads on this site. I agree, and if I had my way, we would have much stronger moderation filters. My preference would be that only those with social networking accounts (twitter/facebook) would be allowed to comment, and we would add a layer of moderation based on follower/friend count. This would still allow anonymity, but also create an incentive for people not to be out-and-out trolls.

Be that as it may, we try to interfere as little as possible with the comments, but there is a significant difference between insults traded by anonymous commenters (which have little or no value, but also little detriment within limits), and those directed at the subjects of a story (who, on this site, often end up reading them) or the writers on this site. Personal attacks on real-life people by anonymous trolls not only have no value, they also carry with them the potential for real harm.

In the case of the Don Lemon story, it broke near midnight on a Sunday, and it’s my understanding that the first handful of comments were uniformly unacceptable. Rather than allow our site to become a toilet overnight, a decision was made to close the comments. However, anyone who really had a burning desire to get something off their chests still had opportunities to do so. Our site lists a number of email addresses for that purpose, and some chose to comment on other threads. We’re also on Twitter (@Mediaite or @TommyXtopher), where trollery is more difficult, but conversation is more immediate/free flowing.

Seriously, who cares what anyone does in the privacy of their home? I am not even sure why this is an issue. I like the way Don Lemon delivers the news. Who cares about anything else he does?

sarainitaly said:
Tommy said he closed the comments because of some initial comments that were made on the post. I didn’t see it when it first posted, so i don’t know what happened.

As far as I can remember, the last comment I saw on the article had something to do with racist homophobes. It was not pretty.

Onesweetworld79 said:
What is it about religion that makes people so intolerant? Do they teach you to become bigots in sunday school or something?

I know I am going to regret this, but, in a lot of cases, yes. The tolerance of intolerance is way more common in American churches and synagogues than one would imagine. We all hear about the intolerance in mosques, but nobody talks about that anti-gay rhetoric rabbis and priests spew daily. I am not even going to launch into the pro-life/pro-choice stuff.

And, yes, black churches have a strong history of this. Not only Rev. Wright (fresh meat for the professional level haters here like BMG), but most are strongly anti-gay. Synagogues are not exactly bastions of tolerance and acceptance. I have been to many and have heard things said in the name of religion that have sent me out the door. Same for the few churches I have attended.

While it is their right to preach how they see fit, it is the duality of teaching intolerance in the name of tolerance and love that is amazing and somewhat dismaying.

The politics of identity and grouping are big business. It is easier for the establishment, media and politicians to control us and use scare-tactics against the various sides. Being lumped into groups makes life easier for partisans of either side. They sure the heck don’t want you viewing yourself or others as individuals with your own experiences, dreams, failures and fears. Keeping us locked into various boxes means that it is easier to control us.

If we were viewed as individuals how could they use class-warfare against us and others?

If we were viewed as individuals how could they use racial scare-tactics against us?

If we were viewed as individuals how could they use homophobia against us or against others?

If we were viewed as individuals how could they use partisan political tactics against us?

If we were viewed as individuals how could they use political correctness against us?

Onesweetworld79 said:
What is it about religion that makes people so intolerant? Do they teach you to become bigots in sunday school or something?

Not sure, but you just painted all religious people with a broad brush, so I guess a fair question to you would be, where did you learn how to be a bigot?

Secondly, your president of choice, Obozo, is against gay marriage… at least publicly. Though I suspect he might just be catering to his flock of mindless worshippers in the black community with that one. Why don’t you work on getting Barry to support your cause before you start trashing people you don’t like to begin with?

Tommy Christopher said:
…if I had my way, we would have much stronger moderation filters. My preference would be that only those with social networking accounts (twitter/facebook) would be allowed to comment, and we would add a layer of moderation based on follower/friend count. .

Problem with that Tommy, is that it would make it that much easier easier for people to hack people who have different views than them and steal their personal information, etc…

Tommy Christopher said:
My preference would be that only those with social networking accounts (twitter/facebook) would be allowed to comment,

Sort of like a qualification for voting? You have to be on Twitter or (God help us) Facebook to comment. Somehow that seems wrong.

What y’all need is the ability for users to edit their own posts and active moderation by Mediaite, deleting the truly offensive. But not automated filters. Those tend to take too broad a swath. Anyone remember the time AOL banned the word “breast,” via automation thus eliminating any discussion of breast cancer?

Yeah, the comments get out of hand, but free speech can be a real b***h.

I am at a loss as to why this is being touted as bravery. For the second day in a row this guy is out there talking about himself, and it is all in order to stump for his book. I might be more impressed if he came out and then went on the air the next day as if it were no big deal. Because it is no big deal. How does this have any impact on his job abilities as a news anchor?

Tommy Christopher said:
Actually, I had nothing to do with the decision to close comments on that post, but I wholeheartedly agree with it. Funny that people who lament the lack of “open and honest discussion” feel so free to be dishonest about the closing of comments on that thread.

We’ve had this discussion before, but in case you missed it, there are a number of factors to consider. Some have pointed out that gender and sex-based insults are all-too-common in comment threads on this site. I agree, and if I had my way, we would have much stronger moderation filters. My preference would be that only those with social networking accounts (twitter/facebook) would be allowed to comment, and we would add a layer of moderation based on follower/friend count. This would still allow anonymity, but also create an incentive for people not to be out-and-out trolls.

Be that as it may, we try to interfere as little as possible with the comments, but there is a significant difference between insults traded by anonymous commenters (which have little or no value, but also little detriment within limits), and those directed at the subjects of a story (who, on this site, often end up reading them) or the writers on this site. Personal attacks on real-life people by anonymous trolls not only have no value, they also carry with them the potential for real harm.

In the case of the Don Lemon story, it broke near midnight on a Sunday, and it’s my understanding that the first handful of comments were uniformly unacceptable. Rather than allow our site to become a toilet overnight, a decision was made to close the comments. However, anyone who really had a burning desire to get something off their chests still had opportunities to do so. Our site lists a number of email addresses for that purpose, and some chose to comment on other threads. We’re also on Twitter (@Mediaite or @TommyXtopher), where trollery is more difficult, but conversation is more immediate/free flowing.

nice try, however, each time you post an explanation your story changes

Keeva said:
And, yes, black churches have a strong history of this. Not only Rev. Wright (fresh meat for the professional level haters here like BMG), but most are strongly anti-gay.

As we have seen on numerous other threads, the accuracy or inaccuracy of such a statement does not alter the perception in the lib world that just making such a statement is pure unmitigated racism in itself.

Tommy Christopher said:
“In the case of the Don Lemon story, it broke near midnight on a Sunday, and it’s my understanding that the first handful of comments were uniformly unacceptable. Rather than allow our site to become a toilet overnight, a decision was made to close the comments. However, anyone who really had a burning desire to get something off their chests still had opportunities to do so.”

It’s interesting how those comments haven’t appeared here isn’t it. That’s sure a mystery.

Additionally, Dan’s site is filled with personal attacks, spam and inappropriate comments. Simply go to the articles about Sarah Palin and read them for yourself. But regardless, it is Dan Abrams site so he has every right to have whatever policy he wants.

As for your comment about certain speech having the potential for real harm, I am just glad you are not in government service. Such views on limiting speech, at least in a public forum, actually causes harm to individual liberty and “free” society.

Tommy Wrote:
“Be that as it may, we try to interfere as little as possible with the comments, but there is a significant difference between insults traded by anonymous commenters (which have little or no value, but also little detriment within limits), and those directed at the subjects of a story (who, on this site, often end up reading them) or the writers on this site. Personal attacks on real-life people by anonymous trolls not only have no value, they also carry with them the potential for real harm.”

So I am assuming that you view the tactic of using anonymous sources by “journalists” as unethical?

@ Tommy,

Since you are now at work, and thus able to moderate the comments why don’t you open up the story to comments?

Tommy, the best way to weed out the troll (skippy is one of his many names) is to incorporate a rule that a valid e-mail account from the posters internet provider be used and not allowing people to use ip spoofers. It’s a method that has been proven to work and is simple to enforce.

Mas Liberty5 said:
Additionally, Dan’s site is filled with personal attacks, spam and inappropriate comments. Simply go to the articles about Sarah Palin and read them for yourself. But regardless, it is Dan Abrams site so he has every right to have whatever policy he wants.

You are correct about their right to do this, but your point above is valid. On the other story where this was mentioned, while discussing their desire to purge the offensive comments, a comment of mine was humorously followed by spam. And I cannot say how many times I’ve seen disagreements here sink into declarations that a commenter should go off and engage in a derogatory same-sex act. Yet suddenly such comments were off limits in the original Lemon story. Doesn’t add up.

Kitsune said:
Problem with that Tommy, is that it would make it that much easier easier for people to hack people who have different views than them and steal their personal information, etc…

Yep. Even my disquss account has had many attempts at being hacked. I had to take down my facebook page because of a certain stalker that posts here. That same stalker has many fake facebook accounts so that wouldn’t stop any trolling.

MartiniShark said:
And I cannot say how many times I’ve seen disagreements here sink into declarations that a commenter should go off and engage in a derogatory same-sex act. Yet suddenly such comments were off limits in the original Lemon story. Doesn’t add up.

It was clearly use of double standards.

Yesterday I and a few others very briefly (off-topic in another thread) touched upon some of the things Mas Liberty5 and Kitsune have so cogently expressed here on the first page of comments. Even though there was nothing derogatory said and we did not “denigrate”, Mr. Lemon, we still incurred the Wrath Of The Outraged Liberal.

Color Me Badd says:
May 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm Color Me Badd(Quote)
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So the Don Lemon comments are closed but that doesn’t stop you homophobic pieces of shit to still denigrate him on another thread. Seriously Mediaite needs to clean this comment section up by banning IPs. Seriously Mediaite, it is time.

It is as Kitsune said. Tolerance is not enough. Praise is now required. And of course, censorship.

Tommy Christopher said:
Funny that people who lament the lack of “open and honest discussion” feel so free to be dishonest about the closing of comments on that thread.

Funny that you, Tommy, are inferring hypocrisy on others.

@ Man Bites Dog,

I have no problem with a private company site banning individuals or establishing their own “standards” for those that comment. It is their right. Although this situation is very strange.

Why won’t Tommy/Mediaite/Dan Abrams open the article up for commenting now? It’s very strange.

In my opinion, I believe that the real reason Mediaite won’t allow comments on the initial Lemon story is because Tommy Christopher basically pitted two victim groups (African-Americans & Homosexuals) against one another.

And it is rather sad that these individuals aren’t viewed as actual individuals, but I’ll stop there.

Why not open it up for comments now?

In California 70 percent of African-Americans voted against Gay Marriage.

A fact that Liberals seem to forget.

Latin2 said:
In California 70 percent of African-Americans voted against Gay Marriage.

A fact that Liberals seem to forget.

That was blamed on the Mormons in Utah…LOL!

Latin2 is either being racist or homophobic. Not sure which in this case.

Mas Liberty5 said:
@ Man Bites Dog,

I have no problem with a private company site banning individuals or establishing their own “standards” for those that comment. It is their right. Although this situation is very strange.

Why won’t Tommy/Mediaite/Dan Abrams open the article up for commenting now? It’s very strange.

I have to say, given how a vocal minority of commentators on the site are incredibly rude, I understand the need to have active moderation on any posting dealing with gay, women, etc. Honestly, any post about Maddow, (who I completely disagree with), includes homophobic crap, so who can blame. Also true for any Palin or female republican post.

There’s jerks of all political stripes…

Keeva said:
Seriously, who cares what anyone does in the privacy of their home? I am not even sure why this is an issue. I like the way Don Lemon delivers the news. Who cares about anything else he does?

As far as I can remember, the last comment I saw on the article had something to do with racist homophobes. It was not pretty.

I know I am going to regret this, but, in a lot of cases, yes. The tolerance of intolerance is way more common in American churches and synagogues than one would imagine. We all hear about the intolerance in mosques, but nobody talks about that anti-gay rhetoric rabbis and priests spew daily. I am not even going to launch into the pro-life/pro-choice stuff.

And, yes, black churches have a strong history of this. Not only Rev. Wright (fresh meat for the professional level haters here like BMG), but most are strongly anti-gay. Synagogues are not exactly bastions of tolerance and acceptance. I have been to many and have heard things said in the name of religion that have sent me out the door. Same for the few churches I have attended.

While it is their right to preach how they see fit, it is the duality of teaching intolerance in the name of tolerance and love that is amazing and somewhat dismaying.

I don’t care about what someone does in their bedroom, but what I do care about is when people throw what they do in their bedroom in my face.

And as someone who was brought up Methodist, I have never, ever heard the subject of homosexuality brought up once while in Church or in Sunday school or Bible class. It’s a shame though that I have recently had to cut ties with the Methodist Church over their virulently anti-Israeli positions.

“It’s because, in black culture, the worst thing you can be really is a gay man.”

Bias in the black community? Impossible!!!

Jaurez said:
That was blamed on the Mormons in Utah…LOL!

Not only did African-Americans vote IN LARGE numbers against gay marriage, but Latinos, which make up about HALF of the population of California voted 60 -40 against Gay Marriage.

If you put that in numbers that is quite a bit since Latinos almost make up half of population.

I believe that Obama was on the ballot and both groups voted overwhelming for Obama…BUT AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE.

Yet Liberals and Gay groups attacked Mormons and Republicans.

OxyCon said:
And as someone who was brought up Methodist, I have never, ever heard the subject of homosexuality brought up once while in Church or in Sunday school or Bible class. It’s a shame though that I have recently had to cut ties with the Methodist Church over their virulently anti-Israeli positions.

I encourage you to check out an Assembly of God church some time. If the media wanted to make millions of Christians look like hopelessly bigoted cult followers all they would need is 2 hours in a Pentecostal church and a camera phone.

He has a book to sell.
Now it makes sense.
Some people have no shame

OxyCon said:
I don’t care about what someone does in their bedroom, but what I do care about is when people throw what they do in their bedroom in my face. And as someone who was brought up Methodist, I have never, ever heard the subject of homosexuality brought up once while in Church or in Sunday school or Bible class. It’s a shame though that I have recently had to cut ties with the Methodist Church over their virulently anti-Israeli positions.

im_lovin_it said:
I encourage you to check out an Assembly of God church some time. If the media wanted to make millions of Christians look like hopelessly bigoted cult followers all they would need is 2 hours in a Pentecostal church and a camera phone.

…or better yet, read God’s Word and see what the Bible says about sin in all of its forms…..

im_lovin_it said:
I encourage you to check out an Assembly of God church some time. If the media wanted to make millions of Christians look like hopelessly bigoted cult followers all they would need is 2 hours in a Pentecostal church and a camera phone.

How long have YOU been a bigot?

1 Corinthians 6:8-10 (King James Version)
Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

No amount of human effort (works, religion, intention, “goodness, etc.) will be accepted by The Lord, according to His Word. We are ALL sinnners, even on our best days….

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 10:9-10
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
John 3:7
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

“cobra” where are you? how bout “probomabot” who also claims to be black? Weird.

does the c(lowns)n(itwits and socialist)n(attering nabobs) network recruit ALL its people from soup kitchens, homeless shelters and crack houses ? Sure seems like it.

OxyCon said:
I don’t care about what someone does in their bedroom, but what I do care about is when people throw what they do in their bedroom in my face.

I completely agree with that. As I said, who cares?

Gee, another queero “comes out”…..Is there some sort of LIBERAL celebration when a queero publicly declares that he/she is a devient sicko????

This sicko queer is condemning the black community for being “TOO RELIGIOUS”????????? Is that it?? Not only is he a sick deviant weasel piece of chit, but also a stupid, ignorant one….

I’m so tired of this attention whore claiming that “its so much worse to be black and gay”. How the hell does he know? Has he been a skin color other than black? Who is he tell anyone else what its like to be gay and < insert color here?

TeaPartyPatriot, the Dumbocrap Party is totally made up of weirdos, deviants, sickos, racists, weasels.

Don…if you are reading this….I have a hint for you.

You need to learn how to be comfortable in your own skin…when you do, you will get the respect you are seeking.

Going on shows like “The View” and running down your “community” will not get you respect…but you will have a hard life waiting for you.

Those people have you on for their ratings….not yours.

Why heck is he writing a memoir? That’s like Rob Lowe’s memoir – insignificant.

MartiniShark said:
I am at a loss as to why this is being touted as bravery. For the second day in a row this guy is out there talking about himself, and it is all in order to stump for his book. I might be more impressed if he came out and then went on the air the next day as if it were no big deal. Because it is no big deal. How does this have any impact on his job abilities as a news anchor?

He’s normally a weekend anchor. My problem is why is he even writing a memoir and if he was doing it for the Black community, why not go to Black churches? His audience isn’t Behar’s show.

MartiniShark said:
You are correct about their right to do this, but your point above is valid. On the other story where this was mentioned, while discussing their desire to purge the offensive comments, a comment of mine was humorously followed by spam. And I cannot say how many times I’ve seen disagreements here sink into declarations that a commenter should go off and engage in a derogatory same-sex act. Yet suddenly such comments were off limits in the original Lemon story. Doesn’t add up.

The site doesn’t moderate the liberal folks commenting enough. People like winning add humor to the debate. People like BFD or the others just add nothing of humor to the site. We can all choose to leave or we can self-police. I believe in a little bit of self-policing. They do it at HA and C4P and it works out quite well.

Jaurez said:
Yep. Even my disquss account has had many attempts at being hacked. I had to take down my facebook page because of a certain stalker that posts here. That same stalker has many fake facebook accounts so that wouldn’t stop any trolling.

I commented on Rachel Maddow’s official Facebook page a few times, months if not a year ago (not suer when) and because I expressed a conservative viewpoint on an issue, multiple people stole photos of mine and put it as their own.

I didn’t say anything offensive or bring up her not wearing black. I just commented on articles or posts that people would put up. I didn’t do it for that long of a time period either. I really was interested in conversation engagement at the basic level, but their stalker and stealing of my photos attitude just put me over the deep edge and I swore to not let liberals take advantage on the internet from that moment on.

Latin2 said:
Not only did African-Americans vote IN LARGE numbers against gay marriage, but Latinos, which make up about HALF of the population of California voted 60 -40 against Gay Marriage.

If you put that in numbers that is quite a bit since Latinos almost make up half of population.

I believe that Obama was on the ballot and both groups voted overwhelming for Obama…BUT AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE.

Yet Liberals and Gay groups attacked Mormons and Republicans.

Are you of Hispanic descent? My thought is that those of Hispanic descent would actually vote Republican once a “commonsense” approach to illegal/legal immigration is enacted. Who knows when that would happen but I was wondering what others thought about the matter.

im_lovin_it said:
I encourage you to check out an Assembly of God church some time. If the media wanted to make millions of Christians look like hopelessly bigoted cult followers all they would need is 2 hours in a Pentecostal church and a camera phone.

This is one individual that consistently should be banned. No need for bigoted comments like that.

I think the only reason Don came out is to sell books. I mean lets be honest, who is going to read a book about him? Does anyone care? Most people probably do not even know who he is. Unless you watch CNN fairly regularly then its more than likely you have no idea who Don even is.

Poor guy outed by Madcow.

Dsiscokid said:
…or better yet, read God’s Word and see what the Bible says about sin in all of its forms…..

Dronetek said:
I’m so tired of this attention whore claiming that “its so much worse to be black and gay”. How the hell does he know? Has he been a skin color other than black? Who is he tell anyone else what its like to be gay and < insert color here?

Opinion polls prove it. Blacks are the most homophobic group in the United States! Know what you are talking about.

DSISCOKID, blacks aren’t the most homophobic group in the U.S……they just can’t stand deviancy, homosexuality and lesbianism doesn’t fit into their lives easily, as it does in the DUMBOCRAP DEVIANT COMMUNITY.

WCinWI said:
The site doesn’t moderate the liberal folks commenting enough. People like winning add humor to the debate. People like BFD or the others just add nothing of humor to the site. We can all choose to leave or we can self-police. I believe in a little bit of self-policing. They do it at HA and C4P and it works out quite well.

I’m really not a huge fan of moderation on boards, for the most part. Let fly, and I’ll stop reading those who expose their ignorance and intolerance. But TommyC. said they spiked the comment thread on that initial story because of homophobic posts. That struck me as a lame explanation, given the near constant references to such in nearly any other thread on this site. It felt like to me they shielded that story from gay slurs given the story’s content. The Palin and Maddow posts however are free to have any and all slurs presented sans censor.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. 28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; ► 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.