I probably agree with Kathy Griffin a lot more than I do with Elizabeth Hasselbeck, but the former is an insufferable bore and shameless self-promoter who hasn’t been funny in about 45 years.

Why is it that most of these so called comedians are just nasty? When did attacks and vulgarities replace humor?

For the record….Elisabeth DID NOT stand up when Kathy came on set, and merely extended her hand to KG. Kathy’s ‘schtick’ is making fun of celebrities and politicians, ala Don Rickles. Elisabeth was visibly agitated that Kathy was there….made faces, yawned, and was generally disrespectful. Then she made the fatal error of getting in Kathy’s face. BIG MISTAKE. Kathy is smarter, quicker, and much better at confrontation than EH. If anything, Kathy held back – she could have ripped her a new one, and didn’t. The audience was CLEARLY on Kathy Griffin’s side.

The audience was CLEARLY on Kathy’s side? WOW, what are the chances? A LIBERAL audience at ‘The View”.

Another knuckle -dragging lib who can not live without SP.

“The audience was CLEARLY on Kathy Griffin’s side.”

LOL

Withe 3 lib hosts, I guess that is a shock to your lib mind, eh?

Joyless Behar & Kathy are fans to the insecure, an fairly clueless liberal minded woman who think their geniuses !

That was a face off? Wow, the View really is boring drivel.

And let’s be honest here, this all just stems from the fact that Kathy Griffin is an ugly plastic surgery horror story who’s barely surviving on cable, and Elizabeth Hasselbeck is a gorgeous beauty on a successful show (which sucks, but it’s still successful) who is also the most popular host on it since she’s the only conservative voice on the show. Kathy Griffin is undeniably superficial, shallow, and immature, so there’s really not that much more to their tension.

I’m sorry; did I say something about my political persuasion? BR: I wasn’t shocked the audience was on Kathy’s side. Elisabeth was extremely rude. JS: You obviously weren’t watching. Whoopi wasn’t there, and I would not classify Shari as a liberal. T4L: learn to spell.

ou obviously weren’t watching. Whoopi wasn’t there, and I would not classify Shari as a liberal. T4L: learn to spell.”

Idiot, Joy, Sherri and the guest are libs.

And not standing for a hate-filled comic is not rude!

M10 please provide example

T4L, you don’t think m10 is saying…… No- he can’t be that dense.

And m10, please learn how to spell; it’s Sherri , not Shari .

Signed,

The management.

an fairly clueless liberal minded woman who think their geniuses !

AND fairly clueless, liberal-minded WOMEN who think THEY’RE geniuses.

Fixed the spelling, typos and punctuation errors. You’re welcome.

Boy thanks M10 !

As long as you get the point that’s all I’m after !

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a new lib hallway monitor!

JS, I watch The View regularly. I would not classify Sherri as a liberal; she is much more of a Moderate. My apologies about misspelling her name.

And, yes, not standing when a GUEST enters your set (which is the regular habit of ALL The View hosts) is rude. Kathy Griffin was invited to appear on the show; Elisabeth could have stayed home if she were that unhappy about the appearance. Instead, she pouted and acted like a 12-year-old.

Instead, she pouted and acted like a 12-year-old.”

Just like Barbara Wahwah and Joy did when Mccain was on and how Joy reacts when O’Reilly is on?

That kind of rudeness.

Joy has always stood up and taken O’Reilly’s hand. She and Bill generally banter back and forth; it’s never gotten ugly. I’ve never seen her be openly rude to O’Reilly; usually she’s seated right next to him when he visits. And no one was disrespectful to John McCain. All the hosts asked interesting questions that were answered thoughtfully. It was one of their better shows.

Is Griffin the one who played Danny Partridge on The Partridge Family ?

She and Bill generally banter back and forth; it’s never gotten ugly.”

b.S!

Joy won’t even look at Bill, and he nailed her fat ass good last time he was on.

“And no one was disrespectful to John McCain. All the hosts asked interesting questions that were answered thoughtfully. I”

Yes, Joy said he lied, that’s being respectful?

Co-host Joy Behar told McCain that two of his TV ads “are untrue, they’re lies,” Barbara Walters wanted an answer on how Sarah Palin would ‘reform’ Washington, asked the couple how many houses they owned (after John didn’t have an answer last month) and Whoopi Goldberg wondered if she had to worry “about becoming a slave again.”

http://www.tvshark.com/read/?art=arc2391

And the time BHO was on? “We think you are sexy.”

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=4538669

“Somehow, Elizabeth Hasselbeck has snowed American audiences into not knowing that she is a fucking ‘Survivor’ reject. I am sorry; I am going to listen to the political beliefs of someone who wore wacky scarves on ‘Survivor’?” Kathy retorted.

The fiesty red-head added, “This notion that everyone has to be quiet and listen to Hasselbeck is out of control… I am not sure why Babs treats her like a rock star.”

I can’t believe Elizabeth didn’t stand for Kathy! How rude of Elizabeth!

The fiesty red-head added, “This notion that everyone has to be quiet and listen to Hasselbeck is out of control… I am not sure why Babs treats her like a rock star.”

Poor kathy seems sooooooooooooooooo upset that everyone didn’t fall over for her.

John McCain’s campaign ran an ad that was filled with distortions, if not blatantly false. Certainly Joy was within her rights to ask him about them. Did she call HIM a liar, or say that one of his ads was filled with lies? Big difference.

Why is asking how many homes someone owns a bad thing? Isn’t that something YOU know the answer to?

How would Sarah Palin reform Washington? A legitimate question.

Whoopi’s response was to an opinion Mr. McCain had concerning Amendments to the Constitution. The Thirteenth Amendment is an important one.

When Mr. Obama was on, he was not the Democratic nominee.

And if all KG has said about EH is the above, Elisabeth should get a thicker skin. She survived the Australian Outback; I think she should be able to suck it up and act like an adult. She knows KG is a comedienne, and she knows what her act is. Kathy took the high road with regard to EH this morning.

If your not a liberal/gay man you can pretty much forget it with Joy and Kathy. That’s the truth .

Kathy wasn’t upset at all. She told EH to “bring it.” EH backed off. Advantage Kathy.

Nice going Kathy! Lizzie hasn’t looked this stupid since she made those nasty comments about Erin Andrews who’s much better looking than she is.

Go Elizabeth! This is why Kathy is on the list of the 20 most offensive liberal woman at #14:

Kathy Griffin, where do I begin? Well this is a woman who became famous for not being talented or attractive enough to be famous, hence her life and subsequent self-effacing show, Life on the D List. Not only is she crass and just not funny, she has made a sport of making fun of former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. In a recent stunt, she first courted Levi Johnston in Alaska (you know the meat-filled skull who ditched his baby to pursue showing off his naked gooball body), and in the same show brought him on stage and proceeded to infer Palin performed sex acts on John McCain. Tell me Kathy you’re still on the D list, has it ever worked for you? No need to project darling.

Rest of list: http://www.theliberalheretic.com/blog/node/1119

Wow, the website you listed, Michelle, proves to be just as offensive as they perceive the women on the list to be.

Honorable mention: Barney Frank? Rachel Maddow looks like a man?

OH NO THEY DIDN’T!!!

From someone who follows Kathy Griffin, the interesting thing about all of this is that I have always felt she goes extremely easy on Elisabeth Hasselbeck, and assumed it was because she had made amends with Barbara Walters, had a good relationship with the show, and had an irregular but solid guest hosting gig. So, I really do not recall any point where KG gave her a hard time in her act; EH is mentioned by name only to indicate where people are sitting in certain stories, and she refers to “the ladies” collectively and has always said that they treat her extremely well and she loves them. It’s possible that “people in this room” was referring to someone else, but KG is very friendly with Joy Behar and Sherri Shepherd and I don’t remember her ever coming down on either one of them. I’ve never seen her live, but I’ve seen her televised specials, read her book, and followed most of the deliciousness she causes on sites like this one. I also doubt she knows the soap opera actress sitting to her left.

Having said that, EH must be referring to the fact that everybody now knows that she gets prepped with talking points before every show by Bill Geddie and fed additional ones through her earpiece during the show, which was actually leaked by Rosie O’Donnell. KG was then asked in an interview whether this was true, and she said that it was and that everybody who has guest hosted on that show knows that. It’s worth pointing out that no one else who has guest hosted has ever said it *isn’t* true and Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Bill Geddie, nor spokespeople for the show have ever outright denied it.

So EH very well be in a snit over the Levi Johnston stuff, but I highly doubt Kathy Griffin ever told a public lie about anyone who was on that couch. I also doubt she has ever told a public lie about anyone. She gets her material from Hollywood; it’s weird enough. Lies wouldn’t be necessary.

stoogedudes says:
June 15, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Wow, the website you listed, Michelle, proves to be just as offensive as they perceive the women on the list to be.

Honorable mention: Barney Frank? Rachel Maddow looks like a man?

OH NO THEY DIDN’T!!!

Oh yes they did!! What exactly did they say that is untrue?

mrior10 says:
June 15, 2010 at 6:52 pm

John McCain’s campaign ran an ad that was filled with distortions, if not blatantly false. ”

Untrue.

Whoopi’s response was to an opinion Mr. McCain had concerning Amendments to the Constitution. The Thirteenth Amendment is an important one.”

Whoopi obviously had never heard of it.

Kathy took the high road with regard to EH this morning.”

LOL

Having said that, EH must be referring to the fact that everybody now knows that she gets prepped with talking points before every show by Bill Geddie and fed additional ones through her earpiece during the show, which was actually leaked by Rosie O’Donnell.”

The same Rosie O’Donnell who believes that 9/11 was an inside job?

My God!! I am a conservative and am totally horrified that Elisabeth even has a job being the Conservative voice on the View. She is an idiot. Good for Kathy for calling her out. Elisabeth asked for it. She needs to come back to “reality” and realize that her job is promoting celebraties and their shows. She’s turned into a total B. If she had any smarts about her this little episode would have made for better TV. All it did was prove that she doesn’t have the chops or the brains to take on Kathy. It made her look exactly like herself, a whiny, pouting pathetic snob. As for Kathy, she couldn’t have asked for better press for her schtick and show. Better yet Joy looked as pissed off at Lizzy as I have ever seen. MEOW!!

Oh btw, Joy Behar is #16:

Known as the harpiest (not a word, but it should be, if only to describe her) of The View harpies, Joy Behar has made a name for herself as being one of the most obnoxious liberal women on daytime television. When she is not busy saying she doesn’t give a “Flying f*ck about Glenn Beck”, she is hell-bent on tearing her adorable and very conservative co-host, Elizabeth Hasselback a new one (or at least tries to). Give it up Joy, Elizabeth has already told you she will not sell you her youthful blood to drink when the moon is full and the witching hour is upon you.

I’m a long time liberal and I was so offended by KG. She is sewer rat.

And let’s be clear, when hate-mongers from Fox or republican politicians come on, Behar, Whoopi, etc are always polite and if anything, engage in intelligent discussions with them that actually make me want to stop using words like “hate-mongers.” Hasselbech was just a pissy bitch. Sorry. Love you Kathy!

conradconrad says:
June 15, 2010 at 7:44 pm

And let’s be clear, when hate-mongers from Fox or republican politicians come on, Behar, Whoopi, etc are always polite and if anything, engage in intelligent discussions with them that actually make me want to stop using words like “hate-mongers”

LMAO- Whoopi and Joy are hate-mongers, clown.

P.S., what kinda twisted gay man is JohnSimpson? Sitting around watching the view looking for conservative talking points?

conradconrad says:
June 15, 2010 at 7:46 pm

P.S., what kinda twisted gay man is JohnSimpson? Sitting around watching the view looking for conservative talking points?”

So you are gay, eh?

Michelle,

First of all, in regards to Michelle Obama’s “For the first time in my adult life…” statement, they said this: “Is that so Mrs. Obama? So then winning two world wars, defeating communism, ending segregation, and landing on the moon were just expelling gas in the wind then? Guess that’s why you sat in a church whose pastor said “God damn America” for twenty years, eh?”

Both World Wars, the end of segregation and the moon landing occurred before Michelle turned 18, where you will notice she said “…in my ADULT life…”. Well, defeating Communism happened since she turned 18, but according to many righties, it’s not dead because HER HUSBANDS A BIG OL’ COMMIE!

I will agree that some of those liberals, like Janeane Garofalo and Sandra Bernhardt, are usually offensive.

My point in my last post was that they make a list of liberal women who are offensive and at the same time, they manage to be just as offensive as they perceive those on the list to be, if not more offensive.

Maybe I shall start a list with the most offensive conservative women.

Let’s see, Ann Coulter…Laura Ingraham… Virginia Foxx… Michelle Bachmann…Elizabeth Hasselbeck (in regards to the Erin Andrews incident)…Pamela Geller…the hack Sharon who wrote the “Offensive Liberal Women” list…

First of all, in regards to Michelle Obama’s “For the first time in my adult life…” statement, they said this: “Is that so Mrs. Obama? So then winning two world wars, defeating communism, ending segregation, and landing on the moon were just expelling gas in the wind then? Guess that’s why you sat in a church whose pastor said “God damn America” for twenty years, eh?”

What part of that statement isn’t true.

@John Simpson Yes, one and the same. And, good point. BUT, no denial was ever issued, by anyone. If it’s a lie, Elisabeth Hasslebeck should be able to call RO and KG liars with the full support of Bill Geddie and the ABC network.

But she can’t, because it’s not a lie. So she’s reduced to vaguely talking about “untruths” that don’t exist and has nothing specific to say.

Well, Michelle, not only does that website seem to have a nasty habit of stripping gender identities away from people they disagree with or find unattractive–and for the life of me I’ll never understand why more conservatives don’t get pissed at the ones who make stereotyping you as bigots so easy–but they’re certainly playing down Kathy Griffin’s career to the extent of it being pretty untrue.

“Tell me Kathy you’re still on the D list, has it ever worked for you? No need to project darling.”

Are they serious? At the *low* end of her career she had a prime time sitcom nicely sandwiched into NBC’s old Must See TV Thursday, back when NBC was the place to be. I think “Suddenly Susan” was in some dream slot between “Frasier” and “Seinfeld” or something like that. You could stick anything in that time slot; it was the most coveted in TV. “The Gong Show” would do well in that time slot. A nature documentary would do well in that time slot. They couldn’t lose. Not too shabby.

Now? Not only does she make a fortune off her cable show (this is the sixth season; in what universe is that “barely surviving,” Mr. Westover?) she makes more in one night of her stage show than most Americans make in a year. So the biggest career problem she has right now is maintaining her “D-List” schtick when her stand-up stories have gone from her being an observer of the madness on the “Hollywood Squares” set to actually being invited to dinner with Cher. If anything, she’ll have to retire because she got so huge her D-List act doesn’t work anymore.

How ironic. Mentioning Kathy Griffin and face off in the same sentence.

Maybe you don’t like the way they phrase their list Stooge, but I couldn’t find anything on it that I woulca call inaccurate. I have been offended by a number of things Michelle Obama has said. It doesn’t make me feel good to say their either.

Sorry, *Hasselbeck

The fact that you seem to idiolize KG Laurie, tells me all I need to know.

Glad to be of service. ;-)

Laurie Beth says:
June 15, 2010 at 7:57 pm

@John Simpson Yes, one and the same. And, good point. BUT, no denial was ever issued, by anyone. If it’s a lie, Elisabeth Hasslebeck should be able to call RO and KG liars with the full support of Bill Geddie and the ABC network”

Yes, laurie, KG is a reliable source too and BHO still hasn’t released his full birth certificate. Does that mean he wasn’t born in the USA?

Oh, come on. It’s television. If two people who had access to the set claimed that their sole conservative panelist receives all of her talking points, facts and arguments directly from the executive producer and it wasn’t true, don’t you think ABC would have been all over that? And do you really think Kathy Griffin would have been invited back?

Believe what you want, but there has been no denial, KG handed EH a chance to defend herself tied in a pretty bow, and she didn’t take it.

I idolize Don Rickles, too, if anybody’s taking notes. :-)

MichelleF says:
June 15, 2010 at 7:57 pm

“What part of that statement isn’t true?

Uhh…did you read my post? Yes, it’s true there were World Wars. Yes, it is true, we landed on the moon. Yes, it is true that segregation has ended. Yes, you cons think Obama is a BIG OL’ COMMIE. And, yes, it’s true, Michelle Obama turned 18 in 1982, years after both World Wars, the end of segregation, and the moon landing. For the first time in her adult life…after 1982…I made the point that none of those things happened after 1982…yes…that’s true.

You’re right! Everything I said in that post is true!

Rachel Maddow is not offensive, unless you find facts offensive.

You’re right, Michelle. Those women said things that some might find offensive. The point of my post was not to say they are wrong, but that they are themselves being offensive in how they characterize each of those women.

Laurie Beth, you are defending liberals…

Which by association, you idolize Marx, Lenin, Alinsky, Trotsky, Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. Don’t you KNOW?

If two people who had access to the set claimed that their sole conservative panelist receives all of her talking points, facts and arguments directly from the executive producer and it wasn’t true, don’t you think ABC would have been all over that? ”

Why respond to something stated by delusional people and provide the link to a reputable source that says this happens.

So I guess, BHO WAS born outside of the USA.

Rachel Maddow #11 –

If you have ever had the misfortune of accidentally sitting on the remote and switching the channel to MSNBC (as I assume that’s how they get all 4 of their viewers), you may have seen this lovely specimen of androgeny and sarcasm. When she is not insinuating that Sarah Palin is a caribou barbie bimbo, she is calling the tea party movement racist and ignorant. I have had the rare honor of seeing [sic] her in person, and oddly enough she appeared to have a body guard who looked like her twin (note sarcasm). -

Aside from you disagreeing that she looks like her bodyguard what part of that isn’t true? Personally, I don’t think she should have been ahead of alot of those people, but it’s not my list.

I don’t even know how to dignify that comparison with a response, Mr. Simpson, but I suggest you never go into the public relations industry.

@stoogesdues: I’d forgotten that rule. ;-)

So he WAS born outside the USA!

Thanks for admitting it.

Cite a reputable source, so remain silent.

Laurie Beth says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:15 pm

I don’t even know how to dignify that comparison with a response”

easy, wouldn’t BHO’s people be “all over that” if he were born in the USA?

I just don’t understand this twisted gay man JohnSimpson. Suddenly he’s all over the birthing thing on a thread about kathy on the view? Hasselnobody said “You’ve said things that weren’t true.” Well, give an example?

And, laurie, why is Whoopi often stopping in mid-sentence ? Is she getting her talking points?

onradconrad says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:19 pm

I just don’t understand this twisted gay man JohnSimpson. Suddenly he’s all over the birthing thing on a thread about kathy on the view? Hasselnobody said “You’ve said things that weren’t true.” Well, give an example?

Sounds like a lib homophobe is here.

Why don’t you just open your mind and shut your mouth, both are empty anyway.

o

What’s next? racist libs?

They are already here!

LOL

Again, it’s not my POINT that it’s true or it isn’t true, but if you insist.

I’ve never sat on a remote and unintentionally switched the channel to MSNBC, I voluntarily go there.

MSNBC gets around a million viewers a night. Quick math…let’s see…1,000,000 > 4

She may have insinuated that Palin is a caribou Barbie bimbo, she has said that elements of the tea party movement seem to be racist and ignorant. Again, I’m not disputing she said those things. That. Was. Not. My. Point.

JS, the distortions of John McCain’s ads are well-documented. As is the release of Mr. Obama’s birth certificate. I’m going to guess you are one of those conservatives that screamed ‘unpatriotic!’ whenever anyone questioned Mr. Bush’s policies and actions. Amazing the difference now that Mr. Obama is in the White House.

I have seen Kathy Griffin in concert. She is hilarious. And no one is safe. Liberal, conservative, straight, gay.

And I haven’t enjoyed her antics this much since she slammed Ann Coulter on The Today Show.

At the end of the day, Elisabeth was unprofessional. End of story.

No. She’s the moderator, so she’s getting cues as to when to segue to another segment, when to get the panelists to stop screeching over each other, when to throw to commercial, etc.

As is the release of Mr. Obama’s birth certificate”

Which hospital?

Who was his doctor?

NEXT!

Sorry JohnSimpson, big gay and proud of it. Just wondering what your fascination is with watching a women’s talk show is all about. Is that you in a wig in your profile picture? Maybe we should meet?

Laurie Beth says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:24 pm

No. She’s the moderator, so she’s getting cues as to when to segue to another segment, when to get the panelists to stop screeching over each other, when to throw to commercial, etc.”

But she can also receive talking points, right?

Sorry if I misunderstood. I was going by this statement of yours:

Rachel Maddow is not offensive, unless you find FACTS offensive.

conradconrad says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:24 pm

Sorry JohnSimpson, big gay and proud of it. Just wondering what your fascination is with watching a women’s talk show is all about. Is that you in a wig in your profile picture? Maybe we should meet?”

So all men who watch the View are gay? Well, if that’s true, then certainly the men who appear on the View must be gay?

Save your breath. You’ll need it to blow up your date.

Sure. But no one has claimed that she has. And no one has claimed that she gets an hour of prep before the show.

And it was Laurie who is maintaining that if you don’t deny something, it must be true. I haven’t heard BHO deny he is a Socialist, nor has he provided the long form of his BC, so it must be true that he is not a citizen.

Laurie Beth says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:28 pm

Sure. But no one has claimed that she has. And no one has claimed that she gets an hour of prep before the show.”

Oh, really? just what are all those cards that EACH one walks out with?

I’m waiting for you to provide a link to a reliable source, Laurie.

I’m guessing johnsimpson doesn’t date men, just the fantasy he acts out when in a hate rage.

Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children, Honolulu

I am not able to produce my ‘original’ birth certificate, nor the bc’s of any of my children. I don’t know what the state did with them; but the ones in my possession look very similar to the bc produced by the State of Hawaii for Mr. Obama.

Good grief.

But no one has claimed that she has. And no one has claimed that she gets an hour of prep before the show.”

2 have. Rosie O’Donnell and KG. Why hasn’t Joy said it?

Try harder!

Rachel Maddow is not offensive, unless you find FACTS offensive

Expsong MSNBC Rachel Maddow Lies

http://rebuildtheparty.ning.com/video/expsong-msnbc-rachel-maddow

Rachel Maddow Falsely Claims Ex-Gay Author Gave ‘Support and Encouragement’ for Execution of Gays in Uganda

http://www.charlotteconservative.com/index.php/2009/12/rachel-maddow-falsely-claims-ex-gay-author-gave-support-and-encouragement-for-execution-of-gays-in-uganda/

On her MSNBC show last night, the left-wing Air America host Rachel Maddow took a swipe at the conservative Shirley & Banister Public Affairs firm, specifically President and CEO Craig Shirley. Maddow accused Shirley of being behind a grassroots Web site funded by the group Grassfire.org, based on a research provided by the “independent watchdog group Public Citizen,” and she showed still images from an incendiary “Obama=Hitler” video that’s posted on the Grassfire’s ResistNet.com Web site.
But Maddow was wrong. The Public Citizen web page she cited is several years old. Shirley & Banister hasn’t represented Grassfire.org since 2004. And Diana Banister, a partner and Vice President at Shirley & Banister, told NewsBusters that Maddow’s false report has led to hate mail and even death threats to the public relations firm. (Let’s see if the left-wing thuggery gets any attention from the MSM.)

Craig Shirley and Diana Banister are demanding a retraction and apology from Maddow.

mrior10 says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:31 pm

Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children, Honolulu”

No, no, no son.

Show me the certificate.

conradconrad says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:31 pm

I’m guessing johnsimpson doesn’t date men, just the fantasy he acts out when in a hate rage.”

Your only mad because your mother went through your underwear last night—————————– while you were in ‘em!

LOL

Rachel Maddow outrageously lies about Arizona immigration law

It’s remarkable legislation that requires police officers in Arizona to demand the paperwork of anyone they think looks like he or she might be an illegal immigrant… …[Referencing Jan Brewer's comments] There will be no racial profiling in Arizona… except for the part where police officers now have to stop you if they think you look illegal.

That’s mostly what she deals in: facts. The things she says about tea party elements being racist and ignorant I’ve only heard a couple of times. Saying offensive things a couple of times doesn’t make a person offensive on the whole. If we went by that standard, we’d all be offensive. She doesn’t focus her shows on how racist she may perceive the tea party movement to be or how Sarah Palin is caribou Barbie. I’ve actually never heard her call Sarah Palin caribou Barbie, but I don’t watch every episode, so I may have missed it.

JS – do YOU have your original birth certificate?

I don’t know what the state did with them; but the ones in my possession look very similar to the bc produced by the State of Hawaii for Mr. Obama.”

Nice try.

Mine has hospital, doctor, time , etc. barry’s doesn’t .

johnsimpson would you please stop fantasizing about my underwear? interesting you brought up “mothers”

honey, it’s okay. we all understand.

Yep- I needed it to get a new SS card.

Here is what a real BC from Hawaii looked like in 1963.

http://snarkybytes.com/2008/06/18/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963/

http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg

You’re missing the point. Which does not surprise me, since you seem to think the president and a talk show host are a perfectly fine comparison.

In PR, that is exactly the way things work. If you don’t deny something, it IS true. Kind of like if you’re accused of sexual harassment/abuse and you’re acquitted, but it follows you and ruins your reputation anyway. PR is intangible. It’s an attitude, often a game of words. This is not a situation involving documents of any kind, it’s a he said/she said. No matter how crazy the “he said” part was, the fact that there was no “she said” is incredibly glaring, given how serious the accusation was. In this case, there is no more reliable source than a person with access to the set, particularly if no one is arguing with that person. They were there; we weren’t. There’s no document involved here. Words are all anybody has to go on.

That’s all you’re getting, because I can’t dumb it down any further. You do not know how PR works.

No, the president providing the long form of his BC is not even close to a sane comparison, considering the president and his “people” have more important things to do than to pander to an insane, small fringe of a population who don’t even make up a significant voting block. The PR people for ABC television have nothing better to do than to hit back at accusations like this, and to protect their product. If EH is indeed the most popular of the hosts, then the erosion of her fan base could kill their ratings and destroy the show. The birthers are not going to destroy the presidency.

Conrad, which dwarf are you?

JS – like it or not, my birth certificate (from the 50′s)….and the birth certificates of my children (from the 80′s) do not list the hospital, or the dr’s name. Merely the date, the time, the city, county and state, and the names and ages of the parents.

Hate to burst your bubble.

News flash! There are 50 states, and they all do things DIFFERENTLY!

Laurie Beth says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:41 pm

I’m waiting for you to provide a link to a reliable source, Laurie.

Johnsimpson obsessed with his birth, other people’s births, my underwear, wow.

I’m thinking johnsimpson and conradconrad need to have a talk show–now!

News flash! There are 50 states, and they all do things DIFFERENTLY!

Hold the phone, Obama said there are 57 states!

mrior10:

Newsflash! Here is what an Hawaiian BC lookd like in 1963!

http://snarkybytes.com/2008/06/18/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963/

http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg

conradconrad says:

Too many freaks, not enough circuses.

“I’m waiting for you to provide a link to a reliable source, Laurie.”

You remind me of Rain Man.

Laurie Beth says:
June 15, 2010 at 8:51 pm

“I’m waiting for you to provide a link to a reliable source, Laurie.”

You remind me of Rain Man.”

You remind me of every lib on Mediaite who can’t prove their claims, so it doesn’t surprise me at all!

JS – you assume that it was in his mother’s possession and that she gave it to Mr. Obama before she died.

In any event, the birth certificate that can be viewed online has been verified as official by the State of Hawaii.

The Birther Movement wants us to believe that Hawaii, Illinois, Harvard, Columbia, Occidental, the State Department and the the Honolulu newspapers are all engaged in a giant conspiracy concerning the birthplace of The President.

If you believe that George Bush never went AWOL while in the National Guard, or that there’s nothing suspicious about his Texas and Maine driving records being sealed, or the fact that his SEC records as regards Arbusto are under lock and key in the Bush 1 Presidential Library…I think you can believe that President Obama was in fact born in the US.

Laurie,
You do realize you are arguing with a Lib posing as a Con, right?

Sorry, mrior10, I just proved it was a fraud.

I didn’t think he was a conservative; he made that clear upthread. I thought he just didn’t like Kathy Griffin.

mrior10 says:

Then let Barry produce it!

Then let Barry produce it!”

Oh, that’s right, he won’t!

JS – perhaps you should have read all the way to the bottom of your link – it actually proves that Mr. Obama is a citizen.

Good night.

Nope!

barry has it under seal!

Elizabeth Hasselb***h (yes, I spelled it right) needs to go for a spin on her husbands goal post because she is way too uptight. Her facts are twisted and I honestly hope that her points are dictated to her because I would not want to take credit for some of her childish and unprofessional behaviors and sincerely stupid things which have come out of her mouth. I wonder if she ever watches herself?

If I didn’t make it clear, I think she needs to go back to that island and stay there. I hate that she has been kept on The View with the shit storms her actions have caused. Be professional and apologize bitch. Kathy was your guest and you need to be brought down a peg or two. You’re just a survivor has-been.

kevin, the home called and your bed is ready.

I think Michelle F is in a bad mood because nobody is talking about her main man Glenn.

Iris says:

You just did!

@mrior10 says:
June 15, 2010 at 5:26 pm

For the record….Elisabeth DID NOT stand up when Kathy came on set, and merely extended her hand to KG. Kathy’s ’schtick’ is making fun of celebrities and politicians, ala Don Rickles. Elisabeth was visibly agitated that Kathy was there….made faces, yawned, and was generally disrespectful.
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Generally disrespectful? Have you never seen Behar’s face when O’Reilly or any other conservative is on the show? Did you notice yesterday or the day before that someone’s acceptance speech cry at the Tony’s forced Behar to launch into a tirade about Glenn Beck? Talk about disrespectful! I do, however, find it quite amusing that both Beck & Palin live in Behar’s head rent-free 24/7.

Behar ALWAYS takes the obvious Bush/Cheney/Palin/Limbaugh joke, while Elisabeth most often takes the high road when she could CLEARLY go the Behar route. If Elisabeth was agitated it was because she finds it unfunny, as do I, to objectify and make fun of a woman and her children, yet Behar always says “hey, she’s fair game” … except, that is, when it comes to making fun of Malia Obama. Behar is the biggest (literally and figuratively) hypocrite on TV right now. She and her stupid plasticized friend Griffin deserved all the disgust they were shown by Elisabeth. BTW, has anyone yet told Levi that he’s being used for publicity? Oh, yeah, that’s right.. he’s just like Griffin… an attention whore (for money OR for free).

Kathy’s “Life on the D-Bag List” is what it should be called.

Why doesn’t it surprise me that MichelleF is totally on Hasselbecks side on this one!! I saw the show, and Hasselbeck acted like a spoiled, snotty, child. She is the co-host of a program that invited Kathy Griffin as a guest, and then proceded to act obnoxious. Kathy G. took her down, and with class I might add. She goaded Hasselbeck with her words about Palin, and Hasselbeck lost it. Made a complete fool of herself. I find it funny that most of the women are on Kathy G. side, especially after Hasselbeck comes up with the shot, that she is not wearing underwear today. Nice comment from a conservative, christian mother. It was hillarious!!Check out the message boards & face book, I find it funny that EH is always in some controversy with everyone from Erin Andrews to Kathy Griffin, with that wide of range of people. maybe it is EH that has the problem.

And Why does it not surprise me that DonnaK used the words classy and Kathy Griffin in the same sentence?

Iris says:
June 15, 2010 at 9:47 pm
I think Michelle F is in a bad mood because nobody is talking about her main man Glenn.

You seem more obsessed with him than I am.

Its OK Michelle, you’re a woman in love, you have to defend your man

Iris says:
June 15, 2010 at 10:46 pm

Its OK Michelle, you’re a woman in love, you have to defend your man”

It’s OK Iris, you’re a woman in love, you have to defend your woman.

Thanks notsofast. I was going to respond, but frankly, didn’t see the point. She comments about Glenn more than I do. I think they call if projecting.

Absolutely! I will defend Michelle, she is a credit to subserviant women everywhere.

I feel, bottom line, that Kathy is a guest invited on to the show despite Elizabeth’s “boredom”…. I could not believe that she yawned, stretched and then made the rude comments that she did about going back to sleep, not quoting… So, I ask, what makes Elizabether any more polite? I feel that a guest is a guest and I am thinking that good manners are what she would want to teach her daughter?? Going back to comments she made earlier about Erin from DWTS…. I know that there are times that Whoopi will show that she has little interest in guests but I am not sure I have seen her stretch, yawn and make the obvious bored gestures that Elizabeth did. Kathy is making a living, has a show and I think due to that, she should have respect when asked to be a guest on the show.

I could not believe that she yawned, stretched and then made the rude comments that she did about going back to sleep, not quoting”

Ah, did she make you cry?

I just finished watching the show. Dont know Kathy Griffith. Never been a fan or watch her show but Elizabeth’s attitude towards her is just not acceptable. This is probably the worst Ive seen really in this kind of show. Someone from ABC need to tell to explain to the former “contestant”of Survivor that The View is not a political show. It’s all about entertainment and fun. ABC need to get rid of this woman. She’s appalling!!!! I think Elizabeth thinks that its ALL ABOUT HER… I can tolerate her stand with a lot of things but I think this is the time for her to go and get out of the show. It is so obvious that fame and fortune has already clouded her small brain. Everyone can attest that she’s shown so much hatred, rudeness and really bad atttitude on televsion….

Skid Row,

The View not a political show? You must be really STUPID. Kathy Griffin is a college drop out. Why the hell should anybody listen who her vomit her uneducated BS. please sahut the hell up, and stop exposing how much of a moron you are.

Kathy Griffin is just another example of how shock covers for no talent. For me, the rude and classless broad always elicits the same response and stepping in dog crap.

>> “Somehow, Elizabeth Hasselbeck has snowed American audiences into not knowing that she is a fucking ‘Survivor’ reject. I am sorry; I am going to listen to the political beliefs of someone who wore wacky scarves on ‘Survivor’?” Kathy retorted.

The total irony of this being that in Kathy Griffin’s whacked out and delusional mind — which is powered by hypocrisy and ass-backwards logic — she believes the world SHOULD care about the political beliefs of a failed stand-up comedienne, who hasn’t been able to secure feature film work or regular network episodic comedy work (which is how she launched her career) in ages. The best she can do is get nose jobs or plastic surgery in the hopes of making supermarket tabloids or doing crass comedy shows in Alaska, where she has to rely on props like Levi Johnston to desperately try and draw attention to her show.

Or to put it in showbiz terms even Griffin could understand:
Kathy, exit stage left. Your Andy Warhol 15 minutes of fame is officially up.

The intellectual level of Murcuh – 2010.

Kathy Griffin?

I didn’t even know (s)he was still around. And I didn’t need to know either.

Kathy Griffin was an invited guest on a show ,co-hosted by Hasselbeck. Would any body keep their job, if they treated a client or customer the way Hasselbeck treated Kathy G? I don’t think so. People do not like EH, many won’t even come on the show because of her, they need to get a conservative or 2 with some knowledge and maturity, get rid of this spoiled, snotty, immature girl!! I like to get both sides of an issue, and with hasselbeck, you get over the top yelling and word salad, she needs to be replaced.

@michell…(you know the meat-filled skull who ditched his baby to pursue showing off his naked gooball body),

whachyoo got against the free market RINO? lol

Kathy Griffin may have a bikini body but her face looks like a foot.

I love the way Hasselbeck said “I’m going back to sleep”. I do love Kathy Griffin and have seen her live but I have to limit myself because she is mean. You come out of her show feeling dirty. I just saw Seinfield and we came out of his show with a natural high. But Lisa Lampinelli makes Kathy Griffin look like Mother Theresa. You listen to a clip of her and you might laugh- but you feel like a tramp. This was pure entertainment.

BillSays said:
Having said that, EH must be referring to the fact that everybody now knows that she gets prepped with talking points before every show by Bill Geddie and fed additional ones through her earpiece during the show, which was actually leaked by Rosie O’Donnell.” The same Rosie O’Donnell who believes that 9/11 was an inside job?

No…………it’s the Rosie who said fire can’t melt steel.

DonnaK said:
Kathy Griffin was an invited guest on a show ,co-hosted by Hasselbeck. Would any body keep their job, if they treated a client or customer the way Hasselbeck treated Kathy G? I don’t think so. People do not like EH, many won’t even come on the show because of her, they need to get a conservative or 2 with some knowledge and maturity, get rid of this spoiled, snotty, immature girl!! I like to get both sides of an issue, and with hasselbeck, you get over the top yelling and word salad, she needs to be replaced.

I dunno about keeping their job….maybe ask Joyless and Whoopi cushin what happens at the view when they disrepsect an invited guest and act like children.

stoogedudes said:
Rachel Maddow looks like a man?

Maddow does remind me of the “Pat” character on SNL.

DonnaK said:
Kathy Griffin was an invited guest on a show ,co-hosted by Hasselbeck. Would any body keep their job, if they treated a client or customer the way Hasselbeck treated Kathy G? I don’t think so.

How do you explain the antics of Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg? I don’t think so.

Every single person on that set during is so shrill. Who watches this shit?

fact; Kathy Griffin is trash!