Believe it or not I’m a moderate. I know church isn’t christianity–I cansider myself a Christian but I don’t go to church–like I said before, my wife and I have our own church in our home.
I will not respond to any more of your lame name calling and BS. You’re the fool–I recognize reality and I don’t push muself on others.
Dan

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:52:24 -0000

Tim Tebow and his preening are nauseating.  Shove it, Focus…

Will somebody please ask this priest if he would be as supportive of a Muslim football player kneeling on the field prior to a game and freely expressing his belief in THAT religion? Would he then be so gushingly enthusiastic about millions of Americans looking up verses from the Koran on the internet?

YES.  Leave me alone and I wont make fun of your stupidity.

or thanking god for a win, or a medal, or getting over an injury, or….
Come on! You cant be serious. GOD and SPORTS have been linked for my entire life, perhaps yours, and yours and yours too?
And by the way.. for a few hundred years, GOD loved “dog fights” and “bar room brawls”.. considering the number of “good Christians” involved in the practices. 

Guess God loves Tom Brady more than Tim Tebow anyway….

The sense of victimization expressed by Christian leaders is incredibly laughable. Christians have controlled the presidency, dominated the Supreme Court and Congress, and rammed through legislation requiring professions of Godly devotion on our coinage. And yet still they come back claiming to be persecuted because some people don’t want it shoved down their throats at a freakin’ football game, too.

Should Religion Be Kept Private…..YES!!!!
Keep it to yourself please!!!!!!

Where’s the story about how, at the end of the game, Tebow was walking to the locker room and dozens of players from both teams were on their knees in a circle engaged in prayer. Tebow wasn’t invoved. This has happened for decades, why do idiots try to lie to themselves and the rest of us by pretending he invented it? You libs just hate him because when his mother had to choose, she chose her childs life over her health. She should be your hero..hypocrits.

Meh.  I’m a big bold lib and I think it’s great that Tebow’s mom took her pregnancy to term and had him.  After all, there are so FEW people in the world, it’s truly a miracle that he somehow survived those odds. 

What’s kind of weird is that we know such a fact about Tebow.  Creepy.

The guy kneels and does what he does.  How many baseball players make the sign of the cross before stepping in the batters box?  Get over it.

Demba Ba, a Muslim, of Newcastle United Football (soccer) Club bows and prays after each goal he scores. Ba is the second leading scorer in the BPL.

Might I recommend that Tebow read Matthew 6:6: 

“But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father,
who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward
you.”

The attention is obviously not Teebow’s “fault”. It is a terrible, terrible mistake to rush one onto the path of sainthood or martyrdom until that person has stood the test of time.

Sounds like your moniker “unhappy” is well-deserved.

maybe God loves Robert Kraft more than the owners of the Broncos…

Since I NEVER watch/follow football, so wouldn’t know, how is this public demonstration of faith received by the media, by the fans, by anyone?

Look dude, I might not be an Evangelical Christian , and I might not be a liberal, but I will tell you one thing, Tim Tebow is an infinitely better Human Being than you will ever be. He has never to my knowledge shoved his religion down your throat and asked you to convert. The only thing he has ever done is thanked “his Lord, and Savior Jesus Christ”. I see nothing wrong with that.

Tim Tebow is an aspirational figure. He’s the person we all want to be. He’s not fake. When he’s in a room, and you approach him to talk to him, you’re his only interest — he sees only you, he focuses on you and talks only to you. Tim Tebow, for the length of his professional career, without asking for accolades, out of his out money, whether he started a game, whether he won or lost, has flown someone with a disability, in need, sick or dying to witness his game, and has spend time with this person before and after the game.

Tim Tebow is building a Hospital out of his own money in the Philippines where a lot of patients will receive free care. When he goes on his missions, the people there don’t know who he is (if they even know he plays football) — he just offers himself out of the goodness of his heart.

Look man, I don’t know you, so I really don’t know what you have done in your community, or in the wider world. But Tim Tebow has accomplished MORE on this planet in his short life than most of us (even these so called “pro-life” Republican politicians) can even ever dream of accomplishing. You want to talk about A ROLE MODEL for our kids? You want to talk about a ROLE MODEL for society in general?

You might not agree with all his positions (ie, abortion), but what is wrong with saying you “love life” — I do too! (Even as I ‘d rather have the woman make that choice, and then have a conversation about it).

I won’t “KNIGHT” or bestow SAINTHOOD upon Tim Tebow (I am sure he has his faults), but what is wrong with celebrating his good side (which turns out to be greater in sum), to really be aspirational for the vast majority of us?

And for the record, Tim Tebow is the most humble Christian I have ever seen. In every press conference I have ever seen, he has never “preened” as you put it. What you’re basically saying in you post is that you “HATE CHRISTIANS” (why didn’t you just spell it out?) just as Muslims hate us all.

Also, for the record, Troy Palomalu (a devout Christian himself) doesn’t kneel off the field, or after the game (the only thing I’ve seen Tim do), but he does cross himself multiple times after big plays, and before plays on the field. Will you hate on him too?

So, you will hate on BASIC human goodness, on people like me and others aspiring to be better human beings as we’re led by example?

Look dude, I might not be an Evangelical Christian , and I might not be a liberal, but I will tell you one thing, Tim Tebow is an infinitely better Human Being than you will ever be. He has never to my knowledge shoved his religion down your throat and asked you to convert. The only thing he has ever done is thanked “his Lord, and Savior Jesus Christ”. I see nothing wrong with that.

Tim Tebow is an aspirational figure. He’s the person we all want to be. He’s not fake. When he’s in a room, and you approach him to talk to him, you’re his only interest — he sees only you, he focuses on you and talks only to you. Tim Tebow, for the length of his professional career, without asking for accolades, out of his out money, whether he started a game, whether he won or lost, has flown someone with a disability, in need, sick or dying to witness his game, and has spend time with this person before and after the game.

Tim Tebow is building a Hospital out of his own money in the Philippines where a lot of patients will receive free care. When he goes on his missions, the people there don’t know who he is (if they even know he plays football) — he just offers himself out of the goodness of his heart.

Look man, I don’t know you, so I really don’t know what you have done in your community, or in the wider world. But Tim Tebow has accomplished MORE on this planet in his short life than most of us (even these so called “pro-life” Republican politicians) can even ever dream of accomplishing. You want to talk about A ROLE MODEL for our kids? You want to talk about a ROLE MODEL for society in general?

You might not agree with all his positions (ie, abortion), but what is wrong with saying you “love life” — I do too! (Even as I ‘d rather have the woman make that choice, and then have a conversation about it).

I won’t “KNIGHT” or bestow SAINTHOOD upon Tim Tebow (I am sure he has his faults), but what is wrong with celebrating his good side (which turns out to be greater in sum), to really be aspirational for the vast majority of us?

And for the record, Tim Tebow is the most humble Christian I have ever seen. In every press conference I have ever seen, he has never “preened” as you put it. What you’re basically saying in you post is that you “HATE CHRISTIANS” (why didn’t you just spell it out?) just as Muslims hate us all.

Also, for the record, Troy Palomalu (a devout Christian himself) doesn’t kneel off the field, or after the game (the only thing I’ve seen Tim do), but he does cross himself multiple times after big plays, and before plays on the field. Will you hate on him too?

So, you will hate on BASIC human goodness, on people like me and others aspiring to be better human beings as we’re led by example?

“It’s a nice change of pace, he added, from famous athletes shooting themselves in clubs or abusing dogs.”

Both of those instances happened years ago, so while I don’t necessarily agree with this not-so-subtle implication that this is what most athletes do, I would say that it is refreshing to see an athlete “practicing what he preaches,” (even though I don’t consider myself a very dovoutly-religious person.)  I don’t have a problem with Tebow at all, but his on-the-field play is always fair game, and those who are critical of his play deserve to do so without being labeled religious persecutioners. 

Who really cares? No-one but butt-hurt atheists who seethe at every instance of religion in the public-eye. I consider myself a kinda-Atheist agnostic, but I see nothing wrong with what Tebow does. If he wants to express himself thus, more power to him! There aren’t enough good-natured athletes in this country.

I do, however, think he’s a terrible quarterback.

you know, until you accused ALL MUSLIMS of hating everyone, you almost sounded like a rational person who had some perspective on the topic, then you went full retard.

Liberals think it is only OK for people to demonstrate hate and anger, not love and affection!!

Religion is fine.  But forcing it on people is not. That’s what evangelicals do (look it up). They believe  you and me are going to hell unless we buy into their own fringe belief set which holds, for example, that Catholicism is a fraud. Imagine what they think of Muslims, Jews and Buddhists.

Tebow is a nice, good young man. But he’s going to have to adopt a more generous and inclusive take on Christianity if he wants to be use his celebrity as a platform for it.

I didn’t accuse “ALL” Muslims as you put it… Read my post.

And for the record, I am a student of HISTORY. My Grandfather and Great-Grandfather fought against and were beaten-up by Muslims. And I have friends who are Muslims today (Jan 16, 2012) — Can you say the same? I know exactly what they’re capable of. History has educated me as to the hate they have for Christianity.

In a perfect world, all religions and all people will live in harmony. In a world where Muslims believe that their religion is the ultimate religion and that their Prophet was right that his truth must be brought to all unbelievers, only one conclusion can be drawn: Their intent is to convert everyone or kill those who refuse to convert. Do you doubt this?

My friends might say otherwise, but they are not “strict” adherents……..

That “terrible quarterback” has won 2 National Championships, won the Heisman Trophy and took a 1-4 team from the brink to the playoffs while breaking many long held records…..and he’s only 24 yrs old!!

His stats are better than most of the greatest quarterbacks ever to play the game when they were at his point in time!!

Why anyone would think he is a terrible quarterback is above my pay grade for sure!!

There are also Muslims on the field, etc.
Shall they bring out there prayer rugs after each play?

I believe in separation of Sports and Religion.

“Make Love Not War.”

Are you taking credit for that too?

How many spit and grab their crotch?
That seems to work pretty well too.

Locker room prayer is private prayer and a time honored tradition.
Religion belongs in the locker room.

This is football, not a prayer crusade.

Win or lose the attention the Broncos have gotten has been priceless.

Not to mention religion’s tax free status.
The Church is the biggest tax dodge in existence.

Religious people are odd, mannequin-like weirdos that deny their true nature and ridicule others who are honest about who they are. I’ve never known anyone who laid their religion out for everyone to see that was even half-way normal. It’s just another cult.

God is a SF 49′ers fan.
Did you see that miracle comeback pass to win the game over The Saints (irony) of all teams?

Yeah, that makes the game for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6A_rhoFWgc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m0cyvfvMK0

Just a public message for liberals:
In spite of your evil ways and deeds, Jesus Loves You!
(I…on the other hand….ain’t Jesus)

It is in the bible where he who professes their faith in public is a charlatan, someone seeking approval from their neighbors.  The relationship an individual has with their God, god, or gods/goddesses etc are personal matters.

Maybe Tebow should read Matthew 6:6.   God doesn’t like public displays of worship.

Matthew 6:5

Oh my God, Fr Morris is an idiot.

Religion should be kept private, it has no place on the football field. I quit watching Denver because of Tebow’s rediculous religious antics.

I rebut your one verse with these many verses on the bible’s take on testifying to others. I am not a religious man, but to post with one verse falls a little short.

http://www.openbible.info/topics/testifying

http://www.openbible.info/topics/testifying

Unless the priest giving the prayer in the locker room is gay.

Good for you.

Really

For all the libs who want Tebow to stop showing himself as a christian because you feel he is forcing his beliefs on you, thats fine. In return you have to stop forcing your ridiculous liberal beliefs on us. I don’t want to be a tree huggin, vegan, hybrid driving commie.

I love Jebus too.

Ludicrous.

The first part of that verse tells it all, laurie

Matthew 6:5-15:
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners TO BE SEEN BY MEN.  I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

While he’s “expressing himself”, he looks like a total fool.

If that is the intent…then yes it is wrong.
Jesus also said (paraphrased)  that when 2 or more are joined in prayer (which is “in public”…He is among them.
It really pisses me off when ignorant liberals who know nothing about the Bible misconstrue it’s contents to suit their hateful agends.

Evangelical fundamentalism is a cult WITHIN Christianity and doesn’t represent the whole body of it.

The Atheist chapter. Burn down the Churches, right?

Who says?

Maybe you should become a Christian before you bash one.
Walk in their shoes….

Atheism is also tax exempt.

Soros 12:10
Mickey Mouse 7:13
Hahahahahaha!!!

Of course he does.

Keep religion out of sports.

Having been around for eternity, God is getting bored and any new spectacle that someone involves him in helps to pass the time.

Should caustic commentators on this site or the article writer himself keep their thoughts to themselves? As ridiculous as the question I posed is, the same is for the title of this Mediaite post & the Tebow, Religion & 1st amendment hating comments here. Thank God for 1st amendment! As much as libs/progs want to shut down free speech of others not in their camp, we don’t live in NK!

I am glad you finally got off your lazy liberal butt for 3 hours.
I am certain the Denver ogganization is in turmoil because they have lost your support while gaining the support of millions.

the left.

Nah, I think the liberals having sex in the streets of San Francisco have that cornered.

Why would atheists burn a church?  They might laugh at you but atheists as a rule don’t get violent about it unlike the fervent christian terrorists who burn clinics and kill medical personal.   There have been 192,758 arrests and convictions of christian terrorists just between 1977 and 2008 for murder, attempted murder, bombings, arson, attempted arson, invasion, vandalism, death threats, stalking and hate mail from just NAF stats.

I understand that people promoting their religious beliefs can be obnoxious.  People can be obnoxious the way they promote their sports teams or lusts or political candidate.  When people love something, they tend to promote it. It’s just part of being human.

You’r full of crap. only 26 percent of Americans attend Church and 17 percent of those are black.
You don’t even know me. And I don’t want to know you.There are more articles against Tebow than there are for. Read the paper.

Dan

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:06:45 -0000

Excuse me. You may not have used the words “All Muslims hate Christians,” but you most certainly and definitely implied it. And you go on further to remove ALL DOUBT that you believe all Muslims hate Christians when you say “History has educated me as to the hate they have for Christianity.”

You didn’t say “history has educated me as to the hate that extremist Muslims have for Christianity.” When you said “hate THEY have for Christianity” you said for all intents and purposes “the hate ALL MUSLIMS have for Christianity.” 

Incidentally there are a hell of a lot of Christians (including you apparently) who believe Christianity is “the ultimate religion” and your “prophet” (Jesus Christ – or rather your absurd and hateful distortion and lies about Jesus) must be brought to all unbelievers. You and your ilk are doing your damnedest to force Christianity on Americans through your evangelical politics. 

Your Muslim friends “who say otherwise” represent the vast majority of Muslims who live peacefully in every corner of the earth. Your so-called history is an extremely distorted and hate-filled version. 

The only reason you extremist Christians aren’t going about bombing the hell out of everyone who refuses to accept your version of Christianity is that you know you can’t get away with it. 

I wish I actually believed in hell, because if such a place existed you would receive your just punishment for your own hate.

Become a Christian before you bash one”

Grew up in a family of them, all mainstream, all normal.  Married into a family of fundie fruitcakes. Yes, fruitcakes, I can bash.

It isn’t a matter of forcing beliefs, Monty, he looks like a total idiot to everyone but other fundies who actually think it will be a turn on for others’ conversions.

Not religious at all, but wouldn’t a fundamental part of any religion be the belief that your own religion is superior? It seems like if a person thought that any religion was better than the one they were practicing, they would switch immediately (unless they were Muslim, in which case they might be killed for switching- depending on where they live).  

I bet these hypocrites would love it if some muslim player rolled out a carpet and started praying towards Mecca

Wow, Soros!!!
Very original “thinking”. I’m stunned!

When a party, becomes the spokes person for a religion, and a filter for that religion, is when the line between separation of church and state is crossed. It’s funny the party that believes in religion believes that the capitalists should be able to charge what ever interest they think is right, kill you when it’s profitable, and destroy the earth for profit. They live in the house of mammon and don’t even know it because they think they are the chosen. And when you confront them on it, they resort to name calling and labels.

Like the Mormons who come two by two at my door?

As usual, angry, virtiolic posts from Christians. What’s your problem, people, got too little of Christ’s love as a kid or something? Got it beaten into you in Sunday school? What? You are so good at accusing others of hate, and yet the angriest posts are from you.

Just imagine that some star athlete who is celebrated by the press and the TV commentators is a devout Muslim or Hindu, or a convinced atheist. Would the American sports media praise him or her for their devout beliefs?

No need to answer that.

Of Christians praying,  the Christians most likely to be ‘using’  Jesus for gain of some kind, are the ones displaying their prayer in public,  perhaps that is why Jesus advised  “When thou prayest, go into thy closet, and pray to your Father in secret….”, also there is the story of two people praying in the synagog,  one self-rightious, and one a sinner,…. if your indeed a student of the Bible, you would know that the prayer of the self-rightious was ignored, and the prayer of the sinner rewarded.

I’m a new-age follower of Christ and other spiritual leaders,  I believe Tebow prays in public, and recieves his reward from the public.  Darlene

Just as long as he is christian, right? But if he where expressing other views, atheism, for example, I bet you would not defend his free speech rights so vehemently.

I’m not prejudiced against Muslims or any other ethnic group. Evangelism is a planned and organized onslaught against people. Some of the ministers had to recant some of their claims. It’s sad that people get caught up in the Evangelical abyss.
There are only 500,000 members across America and that’s a small percentage of our population. It has remained stable since 1960 with little growth in the U.S.
Where was Jesus when Tebow needed him saturday.

My wife and I went to church with our parents and after we were married we continured to go to church for twenty-three years. Then we quit. We were told how to vote, how to live our lives and asked to donate more money. Now we have a church within our home. We believe in the Ten Commandments and the Serenity Prayer. We don’t try to stuff our beliefs down the throat of others.
As been said numerous times by others and myself, Tim Tebow exagerates on the football filed.

Dan

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:25:52 -0000

1. “Church” isn’t Christianity…fool.
2. What paper?…The NYT?….LOL!!!
Post a link to a reputable source to back up your BS… or just STFU.
Gawd…I get so tired of eating these liberal’s lunches….thay don’t have any MEAT in them….just sticks and seeds.

YOU married her…..LOL!!!
What is not “normal” about thanking God for his blessings?
That’s all Tebow does.
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it wrong.
I don’t suppose you ever thought you could be wrong…..being a self-centered liberal.
BTW…Your labeling of your in-laws as “fundies” pretty much exposes your mentality and lack of respect for others.

Is that what you call your penis these days?

How did he force it on you or anybody else? Did he hire a team of Christian marauders to break into your house and make you watch his games or his post-game interviews — or read articles about him?

As far as being generous, he’s more generous with his time and money than you would ever consider being. I don’t even know you and I’m 1000% sure of that. And you take him to task? Don’t be such a petty hypocrite.

What if the next Tim Tebow is an atheist who openly proclaims “We don’t need a God.”  Will conservatives be happy with that expression of belief?

Conservatives should be careful what they wish for in calling for more personal expressions of belief.  They just may get it.

You tell me? Atheist have killed more people throughout humanity than all religions put together through time.

Hundreds of millions of people slaughtered by non believers. Your figures are nothing compared to what you people have done.

no, I will choose not to like someone who feels he needs to wear his religion on his sleeve.  Take it away from the cameras. And if you don’t want to do it, choose a profession that doesn’t have TV cameras around.

Are you actually trying to convince anyone that the British Soccer League is NOT racist?  Try again. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/sports/soccer/in-england-star-players-accused-of-racist-comments.html

It does say that but there were also thousand of others in the stand that weren’t praying…so I do agree with those who have sad that it belongs in private. It however would have been appropriate only if the “Prayer for rain” with Gov Perry had been televised since it wasn’t broadcast this weekend then they shouldn’t be praying in public.

Whatever it takes to get a hit. Ever see a pitcher step on the foul line?

You don’t have to like it, and he doesn’t have to hide it. If it troubles you so, don’t watch him.

Wait, so anything you happen to see someone else doing is being “shoved down your throat”? A trip to the Mens room must be hell on you.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/215449-top-11-sports-rituals-we-love-to-hate#/articles/215449-top-11-sports-rituals-we-love-to-hate

Nomar always got me.

What about freedom of expression?

It’s only football when the clock is running.

In your opinion. I don’t think he cares about your opinion.

Fine by me 

 I was sad to see the upset.  I took out my signed Brees jersey and cried a bit…… but then again, I kind of lost heart in Football when the Bears blew it with the Broncs back in December but my faith was restored watching the Patriots pound Denver.

I think that a bigger issue than Tim Tebow’s public displays of his faith (good or bad), is that nobody is questioning the fact that Focus on the Family has enough money to run television ads during playoffs. Couldn’t they do something more productive with their obviously ample funds, something that might have at least a little bit of a social impact?

Don’t you just love how non-Christians will selectively quote the Bible, usually out of context, to try and make Christians look hypocritical? Look, all you “open-minded” proponents of “tolerance” and fair play – Christians have have every right, and sometimes a very real conscientious obligation, to express opinions publicly. Freedom of speech isn’t limited to pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-socialist liberals. Deal with it.

Mat 6:1 -

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.”

Anyone disagree?

I’ll quote a Republican. I walk softly and carry I big stick.
BTW-Are your a female or just gay?

I was looking for a Nomar clip.Couldn’t find one.
You know the pulling of the batting gloves,etc.

I use my freedom of expression when the Mormon’s come by knocking at my door unwelcome.. 
I sing the the South Park Mormon Song….Dumb.De Dumb,Dumb,Dumb.

John 3:16 is a disgusting passage, filled with immorality. Why would anyone admire the God that it speaks of? 
“I say that you are born in sin, therefore, I sent my son to die on the cross to absolve you of that sin, and if you don’t believe that you can burn in Hell for eternity, but if you love me you can come to heaven and worship me forever.”

John was written 60 years after Jesus death and not by John the apostle.  All John is doing is passing along oral legends that grew after the death of Jesus.  He was not an eye witness.

Who exactly died on the cross.  Was it Jesus, a god?  That’s not a sacrifice because gods don’t die.  If it was Jesus, the man, then all you have is a human sacrifice and what does God say about human sacrifice – That he abhors it and that he would not even think to ask it.

Nice pagan tale – doesn’t come from Judaism though and Jesus was born and died a Jew – 30 years before Pauline Christianity was invented.

Fundies is a lot shorter to type than EVANGELICAL FUNDAMENTALISTS, Alive.  I married HIM and he thought that since he was “saved”, he could do anything he wanted.  He could lie, cheat, steal and muck around with drugs, but because he “buleeved”, he was stamped with a pass to heaven – much the same as many other believers I’ve encountered.

If Tim Tebow wants to thank God for his blessings, he can do it privately.  What he IS doing is making a show of himself, much to the oohs and ahhhs of other believers.  He’s getting his reward right there.

No, I don’t think I was wrong, Alive.  He bilked two other women after me as well.  We can’t all be wrong.

Also not to mention the relevant scripture for public prayer. Matthew 6:5-6:

“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

How could a priest refer to the importance of scripture and not mention scripture relevant to the issue? “Hypocrite” seems to describe the priest here.

Biblical knowledge testing has shown that atheists, agnostics and Jews know the bible better than Christians because Christians learn selected verses and make no further effort to study the background outside of the bible and those few verses.  Christians are certainly free to express their opinions publically but their rights stop right where others rights begin.

How do you figure that?  They don’t have any organizations that are tax exempt?  Perhaps if you want to be a smart ass, you shold think about bringing the smart part with you. 

Welcome to the mainstream camp – still a majority of Christians.

Yeah, like synagogue isn’t Judaism or a mosque isn’t moslem.

You’re probably right, Pablo.  He’s getting his jollies from the ooohs and ahhhs  he receives from like-minded believers and the theocrats.  Next he’ll get a spot on Faux News, right alongside Palin.

Until I saw a send-up by Jimmy Fallon called TeBowie, I had never even heard of this guy.  Fallon performed “Space Oddity” but changed the lyrics to a dialogue between Tebow and Jesus.  Unaware of these antics or who Tebow was, I almost missed the joke.  So I looked it up.  This Tebowlooks ridiculous doing that, going down on one knee, thanking Jesus for a touchdown.  How embarrassing.  Doesn’t this guy have someone who loves him — besides Jesus, I mean – who can tell him how silly he looks.  All the things in the world to thank God for — or to pray to God about — and this guy makes it about a freaking football game. 

Fraid not, Rep.  Christianity has been the #1 killer for the last 2000 years, right from the get go – More than Hitler, Pot Po, Stalin and all the last wars together.  How do you think it got to the top of the religious heap>?

Check out:  “Victims of the Christian Faith” – all 18 pages of it.

No, he absolutely doesn’t have to hide it.  That’s true.  He’s free to look like an idiot and we’re free to mock him for it. 

You might like page #2, the part about the first crusade to Jerusalem – quote:
·       Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent famine “the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the Christians” said chronicler Albert Aquensis.
·       Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (Jewish, Muslim, men, women, children).
In the words of one witness: “there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes”, and after that “happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour’s tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude.”

Absolutely. Why do Christians feel they have to rub the world’s noses in their religion? 

American Atheist,Madalyn Murray O’Hair’s organization is tax exempt.

It seems that this “smart ass” is smarter than you are.

Let’s see, BOULDER ATHEISTS – BOULDER, CO 80308

ATHEISTS UNITED – LOS ANGELES, CA 90027

Atheist Alliance: Washington DC.

Atheists & Other Freethinkers, Sacramento California.

All tax exempt.

You might like to learn history. Millions of dead, not thousands. All at the hands of atheists throughout History.

Stay stupid, you’re good at it.

Rebut all you like.  The verses from the OT refer to Judaism, not Christianity.  The verses from the NT are all Paul’s ramblings after he invented your kind of Christianity.  Jesus directed his apostles to avoid gentile towns.

Now you do have proof of this ignorant statement. Hitler was one of yours, he was a believer in Darwin and the super race through breading. Stalin, a well known atheist and don’t forget Mao. Just those three killed more people than all religions combined. You need to stop reading those propaganda, anti-religion hate papers.

You atheists killed more people than all other religions combined to the tune of hundreds of millions.

Stay stupid, you’re good at it.

What part of afganistan is the cave you live in located?

Welll….Now we can see where liberals get their “news”
Jimmy Fallon…..LOL!!!

I would rather have my grandchildren seeTim Tebow taking a knee than some idiot pounding on his chest like something out of a Tarzan movie.

That goes both ways…Lambchop.
BTW….If you post a link to your claims (on the testing) people tend to refrain more from calling you full of sh*t.

Oh…I see.
Because you were an idiot to marry a cheating liar…Tim Tebow shouldn’t pray in front of you.
That makes sense now.
HUH?

atheists are such morons.

Man is the religious animal. He is the only religious animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion – several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbour as himself and cuts his throat, if his theology isn’t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother’s path to happiness and heaven. Mark Twain

They think that being atheists, they get a pass on rape and murder. In reality, they are a hundred times worse than any religion.

I think most of you on here need to grow up! Quit judging him, quit caring about what everyone else is doing and live your own life!!!! Is he really HARMING anyone by praying on the field? No, he’s not, so get over it! Just leave the guy alone. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Simple as that. There are people who push their religion on others, there are people who don’t. That’s society, so deal with it. We live in America. We have the “God given right” to freely express our religion, beliefs, etc. United States Constitution Bill of Rights First Amendment–Look it up, read it and leave Tebow alone! Actually, here, I provided a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_the_United_States   I have NEVER seen an interview or Broncos game or anything with Tebow where he is “forcing” or “pushing” his religion and beliefs on anybody. When someone asks him a question, he answers it based on what he believes, if it’s something to do with his religion or God, then so be it, that’s what he believes, that’s not him FORCING or PUSHING his religion on you. If he’s not standing in your face with a Bible and preaching why you should do this and believe that and shoving it in your face, then shut up about him “shoving it down your throat!!” I sure as hell want my future kids to grow up looking up to someone of Tebow’s ways, beliefs, personality, etc rather than that of Michael Vick or Mike Tyson or Eminem, etc. But that’s my personal opinion.

So there wrote:”
Now you do have proof of this ignorant statement. Hitler was one of yours, he was a believer in Darwin and the super race through breading. Stalin, a well known atheist ”

Neither Hitler, nor Stalin were atheists.  Hitler was a Catholic and Stalin was interested in joining the priesthood in the beginning.

Another poster described it this way:Stalin and Mao may have disbelieved in the God of old time religion, but they supplanted that belief with another belief that they themselves were infallible, and they made sure that all the people they ruled over also believed likewise, upon pain of torture, imprisonment, and death. In other words they exchanged one form of religion for another; one type of deity for another deity — self-deification in other terms. So they were not against the worship of the divine per se, but they considered themselves to have a preordained destiny or right to power that is evocative of divinity. This is not atheism based on a rational system of thinking. This is just one religion traded in for another.”

So there asked for links – here you go.

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

Hitler reacts to Tim Tebow beating the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC playoffs in OT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jD6B1CXXgM0

Thank God i am not one of them any more. realy they only care about what we Christians do because they have an ego like no other group of people. they even beat Irans leadership in bigotry. they are the worst of the worst.

If they get their way, all religiouse people would be required to wear a big “R” on their clothes so they can visibly see who is religious and who is not. After all, those religious people might be praying under their breath and that offends the Atheists to no end.

Next, Concentration camps.

So there wrote: “They think that being atheists, they get a pass on rape and murder. In reality, they are a hundred times worse than any religion.”

Is that why atheists number about 10-13% of the population but only 0.02% of  the prison population?  Guess who makes up the rest. 

Is that why FBI profilers have now included a background of fundamentalism in their profile of serial killers? 

home.comcast.net/~pobrien48/serial_killers.htm

Same old.  Same old.  And very typically Christian rebuttal when they’re out of ammunition.  Name calling and verbal abuse.   I’ve already given you some links.  Take a look or better yet, google for yourself and you’ll find I’m right.

Wrong.  I married a cheating, lying “born again” Christian. Two of my friends married – one a pastor’s son and another a pastor and both of them were beaten from pillar to post. 

 AND, Tim Tebow is all about Tim Tebow –  making a spectacle of himself, purring from the attention he is getting.

In 1997, the IRS  took away tax-exemption status from all of the American atheist organizations.

Do a search for Mrs. Brown and the Mormons on YouTube.  Hilarious!

They would probably protest and demand that he be removed from the team.
Religion should be a private matter between that person and their faith. The forefathers in their infinite wisdom, chose for there to be a sepration of church and state because they knew about religous persecution. and some of them suffered from it.  However, you can thank the radical religous right for forcing it on everyone else.  It has no place in politics, school, work or sports!

Because she (Madalyn) was dead and her organization collapsed because all the money (millions) was gone. While it was up and running it was tax exempt and she spent the money she got on extravagant vacations and homes.

The American Atheist organization that still exists today is a tax free organization, 503c status.

You stay stupid, you’re good at it.

but we are the bigots. i heard that from people on their side. infact some of them just can’t help but to talk about doing that to us.

What else are they going to say Ryan, that they are the real bigots?

This commercial bothered me 2 seconds into it. It’s using kids to welcome 4.2 billion non-Christians to hell. Check out my blogpost on the topic: http://biblefunmentionables.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/could-44-adorable-jesus-fans-be-wrong/

I have to ask Ryan Frederick and SoThere… what are you two smoking? It has been a long time since I last witnessed just blatant hatred and ignorance spewed forth in such an abysmal manner. What’s worse, it comes from two people who claim to be followers of Jesus- do you not recall him telling you not to judge and to love thy neighbor? 
SoThere: your response to lorasinger is complete nonsense. Perhaps if you dropped your rage momentarily and read what she wrote, you would have recognized what was being said: that all of those who died under the reign of atheistic POLITICAL leaders (not leaders of non-religious movements) DO NOT compare numerically to the undeniably horrendous number of deaths brought about in the name of Christianity. 
Ryan: I believe everyone has a right to an opinion. I wish you would state yours instead of participating in childish name-calling and 0 responses containing actual facts… or points for that matter.
As for Tebow: Everyone has the freedom to believe what they will. I personally have no problem with him dropping to his knees on the field if he so desires to thank God for….whatever. If there was a God, I truly doubt s/he would have any interest in who wins what game, or what award for their music/movies- at least I would hope that a god would have better things to focus on. Wearing one’s religion on their sleeve (or in Tebow’s case, on his face) does make me doubt the reasoning behind their approach. Tebow’s displays certainly aren’t pious; they seem made for an audience. This does not denigrate his accomplishments or charity, but does call into question why he appears to need the world to recognize his faithfulness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_E._Stevens_American_Atheist_Library_and_Archives

In 1997, the IRS finally took away tax-exemption status from ALL of the American Atheist organizations, INCLUDING the CESAALA.    It’s never been reinstated, Rep.

Sorry but the american Atheist are currently running as a 503c tax exempt organization and your dependence on Wikipedia shows your ability to research the truth. here’s a statement by the American Atheist organization concerning their status.

American Atheists a 501 (c) (3) non profit (educational) organization. We are not a political or religious organization. Donations may be tax deductible to the fullest extent allowed by law. Please check with your tax preparer for details.

A copy of our latest annual report may be obtained, upon request, from our HQ at 225 Cristiani St, Cranford, NJ 07016 (908.276.7300) or in person at our National Conventions.

I suggest you contact them directly.

“Usually when people use the term “nonprofit,” they are referring to nonprofits formed under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. These organizations—known as 501(c)(3) nonprofits–must be formed for charitable, educational, scientific, or religious purposes. There are 27 other types of nonprofits that can be formed under other subsections of 501(c) of the Internal Revenue Code. These other nonprofits are primarily social welfare organizations or membership organizations, such as volunteer fire departments, chambers of commerce, social and recreational clubs, and credit unions. What all these 501(c) organizations (both 501(c)(3) and other 501(c)s) have in common is that they are tax-exempt organizations. However, Section 501(c)(3) organizations enjoy additional tax benefits—and are subject to additional rules–that don’t apply to other 501(c) organizations. One major tax advantage that 501(c)(3) organizations have is that all donations they receive are tax deductible for the donor. This is not true for other tax-exempt nonprofits and gives 501(c)(3) nonprofits a tremendous advantage when it comes to raising money.”

http://www.smallbusinesslawfirms.com/resources/business/business-structures/503c-non-profit-organization.htm

Stay stupid, you’re good at it.

Are you familiar at all with History? Have you studied it in school, have any interest to do even some basic research on it of your own?

Once again, you take my words and are BENDING THEM to suit your own purposes, to conform to your own attacks. Is that what debate has degenerated to in this forum and in this country in general?  By any stretch of the imagination nowhere did I imply or even say that Christianity is the “Ultimate Religion”. The truth of that for me will be revealed in the afterlife (whether one exists or not). I do not need to state it or pound you over the head with it or proclaim it, and I did not state it in the previous two posts nor I am proclaiming it now.

And at no point whatsoever did I say that Christianity is without faults. There has been more Christian on Christian hate, crime and war than you can even imagine. Christians have always been more imaginative at killing others than even Muslims at killing Christians. How do you think that Islam, a Religion born in the sixth century AD learned how to operate? Don’t get me wrong — it’s moment of brilliance (Islam) was higher and went further, at a time when most of Europe was in the darkest of the Dark Ages. They build Masterpieces, traded far and wide, invented the number zero, (when the average European didn’t even know what Math was), but the fundamental part of their (Islam’s) tenants never died… They MUST convert everyone or kill those who won’t.

My version of my religion does not ask that and on top of that gives you “free will” to come on this board and lie about what I said or did not say on my own posts!  Without me wanting to “do something about it”. Refreshing, isn’t it? I can accept people of other faiths, and their own path to enlightenment OR not; and I can coexist with them in perfect harmony without having to pound them over the head….

And in the end, I can continue to try to become a better a human being in the mold of Tim Tebow, in the mold of a Mother Teresa, etc… True Role Models, rather than the crap we’re mostly served today by the Mass Media: Lady Gaga, The Kardashian Sisters, etc., etc., etc.

Do you actually SEE Tim Tebow beating his Chest saying: “Look at me, look at me, I am such a great Christian, follow my lead?” I haven’t.

Yet, what has happened, because of his on-field success, and the debate of whether he’s a good enough QB, (along with the fact the he’s against abortion — last year’s Superbowl ad with his Mom), he has been made into a Public Figure.

By being a public figure, the cameras follow him  everywhere. By following him everywhere, you catch him at a very PRIVATE moment for him, when he kneels down and prays. His kneeling down and praying is NOT meant for you or for the general public. It is not for general consumption. It is his private communication with God. The media have made it Public.

Calling him self-righteous is your call… Not God’s.

“…judge not, lest Ye be judged instead….”

In other words, since 1997, they’ve reorganized and presented themselves as an educational organization.

You are right and I was not aware of that. 

I do agree with the effort they are making to separate church and state although at times they do go too far.  David Silverman is the present president. Thank you for the added info, Rep.  Up to now, to me, an atheist is simply someone who doesn’t believe in the supernatural.  I didn’t realize they had that degree of organization.

our links must be invisible…..my rebuttal was to question your sources…not a “Christian” one……It is YOUR job to source your claims…not mine to research them and I think your statements and figures are full of sh*t.

Thank you, 1013.  Yours is the most reasonable (and polite) post yet.

Think what you like, kickin.  I’ll give you links where I can when searching them out doesn’t take all day.

When Satanist start having commercials and practicing openly imagine how many will be freaking out then!!!

Wait…so how does this ad prompt the question of if religion should be kept private?

he didnt say that it wasnt Christians that went to church. He said that going to church doesnt make you a christian and being a christian doesnt mean you go to church. I understand that any sort of logic or truth is irrelevant to you and you cant comprehend it, but at least TRY!

Religion shouldnt be kept private. Religion should be done with as a person pleases as long as it doesnt cause injury to others. If someone wants to tell everyone they know about Jesus then so what? If they choose to do the same about Allah then so what? The forefathers didnt call for a separation of Church and state. That is NOWHERE in the constitution or Declaration of Independence. The only thing that is states about religion in the constitution is that the Government shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. Alot of liberals forget about the last part I put in CAPS. The only thing this says about religion is that there will be no state religion and congress cannot pass any law that inhibits someone from practicing their religion. To take this to its logical conclusion there should be noone that can tell a teacher he cannot pray in school. This is prohibiting the free exercise of his religion. NOWHERe DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! NOWHERE! But dont let the truth get in the way of your hatred. 

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.1 Corinthians 1:18

And dont ever forget. One day:
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,    in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,    to the glory of God the Father. 
Phillipians 2:10-11

Wow…man do yourself a favor and do a little research before you try to sound like “The Business”. There are MANY tax free atheist groups.

Just dont watch. Turn the channel. Let people be free. 

The Focus on Family commercial regarding John 3:16 is a direct result of the Tebow effect. I thought the ad was great (of course, I am biased being a Christian). I also like the tye-in to the song “John 3:16″ by Cindy Tucker…this song is going viral for all the same reasons. When will the Tebow effect end?….hopefully never.

You are so right. Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Pol Pot are all great guys. They are such great guys, that modern day atheist do everything in their power to convince everyone that they were actually Theists….lol..Stalin rid Russia of all churches and then reestablished them later to keep tabs on the communities(ask Weirmbrand). And the idiots will say that Pol Pot couldnt have been an atheist because Pol Pot was a Buddhist and his Khmer Rouge was composed of some Buddhist. What they leave out is that Pol Pot was a THERAVADA Buddhist and not a MAHAYANA Buddhist. The difference being that Theravada buddhist do not believe in any Deity or even that The Buddha is divine. Mahayana Buddhism is the sect that believes in Deities. But they wont tell you this because they dont want to be shown the frauds that they are. 

You’re not reading carefully.  Try again.

I understand that any sort of logic or truth is irrelevant to you and you cant comprehend it, but at least TRY!

I understand pretty clearly that you’re being an obnoxious, condescending snark..
……………………..
“He said that going to church doesnt make you a christian and being a christian doesnt mean you go to church”

I understand what he said and it’s quite true.  However, it IS the church that teaches Christianity, doesn’t it?

No, none of them were “great guys”.  They were megalomaniacs who felt themselves to be divine and supplanted themselves into the position of being objects of worship by force.   They simply substituted themselves for the previous religions.  In short, they substituted one form of religion for another.  It wasn’t a new concept.  The kings of Egypt and the rulers of Rome were revered in exactly the same fashion.

“However, it IS the church that teaches Christianity, doesn’t it?” Maybe, but often in a do as we say, not as we do kind of way. Focus On The Family is a pretty good example of this phenomenon.

If that’s your argument, then a majority of Christians disapprove of Tebow’s  antics.

Tim Tebow flaunting his religion on the football field has nothing to do with the separation of church and state, but while we’re on the subject, how about the separation of mosque and state? The Constitution doesn’t say anything about that either. You’d probably feel a little differently if our Pledge of Allegiance said, “One Nation Under Allah.”

“His kneeling down and praying is NOT meant for you or for the general public.”What a load of hooey. I suppose the “John 3:16″ painted under his eyes is not meant for general consumption by the cameras and the public either.

Two topics have been historically taboo in the workplace, politics and religion.  That being the case, and since you appear to saying that religion should be “kept private”,  perhaps you could practice what you preach and keep your political views out of the public eye as well?

Depends on the papers you read as to whether or not they are pro or con on Tebow.

For a true Christian, the building is NOT the Church, the Church is the people, not the building.  I have attended many churches that have no building, but instead worship outdoors.  One even held services on the beach and used the ocean as a baptismal pool.  Jesus often preached outdoors and John the Baptist did in a like manner, using a river not a man made tub for the purpose of Baptism.

it is funny that the atheistards try to make Hitler into a christian i guess they have not seen this show on the history channel about Hitler and the ocult. http://youtu.be/A663fska0U4

The same idiots hiding behind another lie.

Surprise, surprise.

They already have commercials in all of the sexual enhancement products and they are practicing openly at Occupy Wall Street.
Now, put your “rockycomet” back in your trousers and take a valium.

That is irrelevant because it doesnt. If I was so upset about it then I just woudnt say it or maybe I would move out of country to Israel. The thing is, Muslims have plenty of places around the world where they can go and be in a completely Muslim country. So Im not sure I understand your point. Most of the world is Muslim. This nation was founded by people who believed in God and wanted to escape from religious oppression. The God they are pledging to is the same God that guarantees our rights as free men. Its the same God that allows people the free will to worship what, or who, they please. This is the God that says you can take it or leave it, but I’m not forcing you to do it. This is not what was going on in England even though that is how it should have been. This country was founded as a place where there was FREEDOM OF RELIGION not FREEDOM FROM RELIGION. That means you have the right to practice or not practice it anywhere you’d like. What it doesnt mean is the government can tell you where you can and cant practice it. 

I think a majority don’t care one way or another, just that he’s trying to elevate himself above the other players, seeking special attention and looking kind of silly.  The evangelicals love it, thinking it will lead to conversions.  He’s a bit of an oddity.

Are you aware of the significance of baptism in the time of  John?  Quote: JOSEPHUS ON BAPTISM – Antiquities 18.5.2

“Now some of the Jews thought that the destruction of Herod’s army came from God, and was a very just punishment for what he did against John called the Baptist [the dipper]. For Herod had him killed, although he was a good man and had urged the Jews to exert themselves to virtue, both as to justice toward one another and reverence towards God, and having done so join together in washing. For immersion in water, it was clear to him, could not be used for the forgiveness of sins, but as a sanctification of the body, and only if the soul was already thoroughly purified by right actions. ”

It’s based on the Mikveh, a ceremonial bath which could be done even several times a day – after childbirth, sex, before entering the temple, or touching something unclean.

We can whine and complain or we can resign ourselves to (and begrudgingly accept) two indisputable and fundamental truths about religion (or ethnicity) in this country:

1. Jews have a major influence when it comes to the American media and U.S. foreign policy.
2. Evangelicals and conservative Catholics have a major voice in GOP politics and it doesn’t appear to be waning.

I’m not happy about these facts, but I will not mock them …. oh, on second thought maybe a little bit.

God says that “human sacrifice” is a Pagan Ritual, and Jesus warned the Jews and the Gentiles against substituting their own rituals for Gods Law, (which they had been doing for some time).  But what Jesus did was not a sacrifice in the Pagan tradition nor was it a Pagan Ritual.  In the Pagan tradition, an individual is taken by force and publicly murdered as a sacrifice to a false God, but no one forced Jesus to give himself over for torment and death, he did it of his own accord.  It was not the sacrifice of a creature of God that bought our salvation it was the willing, individual, sacrifice of God in Human form that bought our salvation.
As for Josephus commentary, that is all it is, a “commentary”, an opinion of a single man, one which totally ignores Jesus comments on Baptism which is the symbolic death and rebirth.which Jesus committed himself to through the crucifixion.  And the Baptism is the “symbolic” death and rebirth he calls others to do as an act of faith.

I  don’t see anything wrong with Tebo saying a prayer. It’s better then watching some of these guys celebrate after making a T.D. Some of them celebrate after making a catch or making a tackle  when they are losing a game by 30 points or more.

Jon Weiss:

Human sacrifice was forbidden for the Jews and Jesus, a Torah upholding Jew from birth to death, would have known that.  The living Jesus was transformed, thirty years after his death, into a man-god which is what we have today.  Men-gods don’t come from Judaism and that leaves only the pagans who were quite familiar with human sacrifice.
 
Who, EXACTLY died on that cross? If it was Jesus-the-god, then how can God die?  If it was only Jesus-the-human, then all Christians have in the death of Jesus is a human sacrifice.  And what, EXACTLY does God say about human sacrifice in the Tanakh?  In Deuteronomy, God calls Human sacrifice something that He hates, and an abomination to Him:
 
Josephus, a Jew,  wrote about the meaning of baptism in his time and that belief still remains among the Jews of today, just as it was then.  Baptism was not a symbolic birth or death among the Jews, then or now – It was a cleansing of the body after the mind was already purified.

I was making an observation considering how our society has degenerated. Your personal attack and pointless remark only feeds the hate game. I won’t play your foolish name calling game. Any message you may be trying to get across gets lost in you vileness. Try contributing and not spewing!

Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution does it mention or refer to god. However it does say:”No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust” — U.S. ConstitutionThe 1st Amendment states: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”The U.S. Treaty with Tripoli reaffirmed the Separation of Church and State and was written while George Washington was president, passed with unanimous consent in the U.S. Senate, signed by President John Adams and received no public outcry and states:”As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…” — US Treaty with Tripoli – Article 11 – 1797
I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.” — Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson – Author of Declaration of Independence, chief advocate of Bill of Rights and 3rd U.S. President wrote:”Church and state were separated because the church previously had promoted itself through the agency of the state and to the detriment of the people.”

Mother Teresa was largely a publicity hound and is revered only by those outside of her own country.  Her saintliness was overblown.

http://www.meteorbooks.com/introduction.html

Quoting biblical verses proves nothing.  Both were written by Paul (who never met Jesus), the inventor of Christianity.

It’s hard for people to admit they’ve been wrong when you are in the picture because you are a real A…hole about it.  You must have quite an ego.

Thank’s for your hateful post. I was expecting it from you.

The truth hurts you Atheists, doesn’t it?

Stay stupid, you’re good at it.

i am well aware of the documents you cited. this doesnt mean that separating someone’s religious freedom from them because they are in a public building or work for the state is constitutional. quite the contrary

No problem.  Just keep it to yourself and don’t push it.

 am well aware of the documents you cited. this doesnt mean that separating someone’s religious freedom from them because they are in a public building or work for the state is constitutional.”

You are creating a strawman.  No one is separating your from your religious freedom by asking you to keep your beliefs to yourself.  Start preaching at work and you’re imposing your beliefs on others without respecting the fact that they have beliefs of their own.

Football is a violent sport.  There are a half dozen injuried players in each game.  I don’t see how professing your Christian faith in such a violent game is a witness to Jesus Christ’s humility and peace seeking kindness.