Cowardly Mr Beck can talk about Mr Jones, but can’t talk with Mr Jones. Just 5 min debate, he is too scared. The reason for this is because Beck is an ignoramus, as shown on the quiz show from the Beck show. A lightweight that hides behind his glasses and the chalkboard.

Good riddance.

Beck is down with OPP…bustin’ rhymes…..kickin’ it old school. He’s a hipster.

Other than that, I have no feelings about either and will preemptively laugh at anyone who tries to turn this into anything more serious than playground-level taunting.

There’d have to be ground rules. Like Beck couldn’t show videos of Jones speaking his own words. He did that on his show and the left was furious.

skyfet said:
Cowardly Mr Beck can talk about Mr Jones, but can’t talk with Mr Jones. Just 5 min debate, he is too scared. The reason for this is because Beck is an ignoramus, as shown on the quiz show from the Beck show. A lightweight that hides behind his glasses and the chalkboard.

Good riddance.

I’m sure your “too scared” nonsense will convince Beck – not.

Be a grown-up. Some doofus with absolutely no credibility wants face time and you’re all for it? Who’d have guessed? lol

offered up an excoriating critique of Fox News as well a challenge to Beck to debate him on one of his last shows,

That’s not an excoriating critique, that’s an emotional rant. If you want to hear an excoriating critique, listen to Beck’s utter demolition of Dana Milbank starting at the top of the 10:00 hour.

Jon, I hope you are also planning a piece on the hit piece the WA post ran on Beck and his complete dismanting of their numerious lies about him. As a media site, I’m sure you on on it!

writer said:
There’d have to be ground rules. Like Beck couldn’t show videos of Jones speaking his own words. He did that on his show and the left was furious.

Verbatim quotes are bad enough smears but when you sink to playing tape of people saying things they didn’t exactly want the whole world to hear, that’s just evil.

glen you dropped the ball on this one. why not debate this communist? you know your stuff. you could talk rings around this anti-american POS.

hehehehe…..

This is why I come on this site….lollll…..
The absurdity is so very delightful……

Wow…..hahahaha…….

That’s really low to attack someone for 2 years and then be too chickenshit to debate him face to face.

But is anyone really surprised?

Beck and company argued that they have never made any smear attacks because everything they said was true which isn’t really the definition of a smear attack but whatever.

Yes! The truth is no defense! The TRVTH is what matters!

skyfet said:
Cowardly Mr Beck can talk about Mr Jones, but can’t talk with Mr Jones. Just 5 min debate, he is too scared. The reason for this is because Beck is an ignoramus, as shown on the quiz show from the Beck show. A lightweight that hides behind his glasses and the chalkboard.

Good riddance.

AWWWWWWW !!

Yes, BFD. That was really low of Beck to play videos of Jones’ own words. The audacity!

Hey, why did the White House fire this guy, anyway?

writer said:
Yes, BFD. That was really low of Beck to play videos of Jones’ own words. The audacity!

Oh, was it Van Jones own words telling Beck to lie that he was a convicted felon, which Beck retracted four months later?

BFD, was that like Jones ‘retracting’ that he was a communist?

GuessWhoSuka said:
hehehehe…..

This is why I come on this site….lollll…..
The absurdity is so very delightful……

Wow…..hahahaha…….

Gee Sam, how much longer is your time out? lol

writer said:
BFD, was that like Jones ‘retracting’ that he was a communist?

Yes, it’s alright to lie about some things as long as you got others correct. Great logic.

My point is Van Jones deserves some face time for the lie Beck told about him and let stand for four months.

Of course Beck never debates anyone. He is the Rights Keith Olbermann.

In true Mormon fashion, Beck hates the negroes. Jones comes off looking good compared to Beck’s hate mongering! Beck makes his minions ‘pray’ with him if they want a paycheck. He quotes the pledge of alligience as if that makes his ridiculous points valid. Beck would surely RULE IN HELL if there were a hell. F’ him.

BFD, interesting that you’re more concerned about Beck than you are about Jones. A communist placed in a government position doesn’t concern you.

Van Jones deserves the chance to ask Beck why he lied about him and made up the narrative that he was a scary Black man who was convicted of a felony and learned a dangerous ideology in prison.

That story was good for scaring the blue-haired ladies who watch Beck but it was hardly true.

So where was Van Jones’ challenge more than a year and a half ago when Beck was asking for explanations (never given) of how Jones was hired into the administration, in spite of his background? Where was Jones’ challenge when Beck asked the administration for explanations (never given) into the rationalities that went into forcing Jone’s resignation?

Instead, Van Jones issues his challenge 9 days before Beck is set to go off the air, close to two years after his story was relevant, safe in the knowledge Beck’s schedule is already set and won’t permit him to book him. That’s a true coward for you. And look here in this threads at Jones’ defenders.

“White people are steering poison into the people-of-color communities”

Here’s a racist quote from Jones. But when he does it, the left is just unable to give a damn.

seek said:
I’m sure your “too scared” nonsense will convince Beck – not.

Be a grown-up. Some doofus with absolutely no credibility wants face time and you’re all for it? Who’d have guessed? lol

No credibility? duh, he has more credibility than Glenn can dream of.

Paleoconservatarian said:
So where was Van Jones’ challenge more than a year and a half ago when Beck was asking for explanations (never given) of how Jones was hired into the administration, in spite of his background? Where was Jones’ challenge when Beck asked the administration for explanations (never given) into the rationalities that went into forcing Jone’s resignation?

Instead, Van Jones issues his challenge 9 days before Beck is set to go off the air, close to two years after his story was relevant, safe in the knowledge Beck’s schedule is already set and won’t permit him to book him. That’s a true coward for you. And look here in this threads at Jones’ defenders.

Duh…it would have been silly for Jones to appear on a show he was leading a boycott against. Now that it has been canceled it gives him the opportunity.

LOL @ BECK WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO DEBATE BUT IT’S TOO LATE NOW!!!

The classic cowards excuse.

The same old far left mantra. If a black person makes a racist statement, it’s always excusable.

So Beck is afraid to debate him?

writer said:
The same old far left mantra. If a black person makes a racist statement, it’s always excusable.

its ok writer, some people like communist in the government, they even post her

No debate. O’Beckerhead is T-paw of the Snake Oil set. In the controlled confines of FOX “News”, he’ll trash anyone. In person, O’Beckerhead is just a bit yellow.

Oh, ho ho! It would have been silly for Jones to appear on Becks show when Jones was in the news as a presidential czar who had to resign under pressure but now that Beck has moved onto other issues and Jones is on a speaking tour if Jones doesn’t get airtime he is the aggrieved party!

The hoops you people have to jump through to justify your silly, ill-thought out positions!

I’m sure the King is outraged at Jones’ racist statements.

Dave Splash said:
So Beck is afraid to debate him?

Hannity and Beck have invited OZero on sereral times and he’s declined. Is he afraid to debate them?

BFD said:
Beck’s schedule is already set and won’t permit him to book him.

Duh…it would have been silly for Jones to appear on a show he was leading a boycott against. Now that it has been canceled it gives him the opportunity.

LOL @ BECK WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO DEBATE BUT IT’S TOO LATE NOW!!!

The classic cowards excuse.

It doesn’t appear that there is much planning for any O’Beckerhead show, so it should be very easy to work this in.

Let’s see. Obama goes to a racist church for twenty years. He appoints people like Eric Holder and Van Jones to government positions. Then Beck refers to Obama being racist. An outrage! Where would he ever get such a far fetched idea?

Pretty funny crack about the Fugitive. :-)))

Why wouldn’t Glenn do this? It’d be quite a draw. People would love to see these two go at it. Glenn can’t just claim that Van Jones is a “nobody” because he spent so much time going after him. If Van isn’t “honest” about Van saying he wants to overthrow the government during the debate then Glenn can call him out on it right to his face. How could Glenn come out of this looking bad? Glenn Beck would clearly destroy this Van Jones communist so why won’t he take him on?

Oh that’s right….it’s Glenn Beck. He never does.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
It doesn’t appear that there is much planning for any O’Beckerhead show, so it should be very easy to work this in.

And you base that on what?

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Hannity and Beck have invited OZero on sereral times and he’s declined. Is he afraid to debate them?

Such appearances would be degrading to the office of the President. President Obama appeared with Wallace and Bill-o, so he hit all the FOX “News” shows with a bit of integrity.

im_lovin_it said:
Oh that’s right….it’s Glenn Beck. He never does.

Glenn Beck not agreeing to debate Jones is a sign that he’s weak.

Keith Olbermann never talking to anyone who disagrees with him, is a sign of strength and bravery.

They’re not the same thing. And don’t wonder or question why.

Beck will be quoting Martin Luther King, Jr., Van Jones will be quoting Lenin.

BFD said:
Duh…it would have been silly for Jones to appear on a show he was leading a boycott against. Now that it has been canceled it gives him the opportunity.

Why would he want to appear on a show he is boycotting? Why should he expect that show to have him?

Oh, I get it. The left is too outraged over Jones’ racist statement to even mention it.

I think it would be great if these two men sat down and had a face to face conversation. Beck has made accusations about this man more than 14 times on his television show without the benefit of fact checking or clarification. What’s the worst that could happen? Jones has already resigned so Beck won his battle. It would be the fair and balanced thing to do.

ImNotBlue said:
And you base that on what?

Thematic puerility, chronic discontinuity and spastic choreography.

It’s a DIRTY JOB having to put these pathetic communist nut-jobs in their place, but SOMEBODY has to do it. Thanks, Glenn.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Thematic puerility, chronic discontinuity and spastic choreography.

Got it… you made it up.

Give the King a break. I think he’s still too outraged over Jones’ racism.

ImNotBlue said:
Glenn Beck not agreeing to debate Jones is a sign that he’s weak.

Keith Olbermann never talking to anyone who disagrees with him, is a sign of strength and bravery.

They’re not the same thing. And don’t wonder or question why.

Annnnnnnnnd………..CHANGETHESUBJECT!! Where’s Keith’s name in this story? Can’t they both be cowardly blowhards?

Beck…still out there on the fringe giving those right wing extremist conspiracy blow jobs to registered republicans, tea baggers and anyone willing to pull their pants down and look the other way. What a total loser. Everysince he released his personal book on gay parenting, this dry mormon alcoholic idiot has just gotten weirder and weirder! But then…you’d have to be pretty stupid to watch and listen to the lies and vile spew that come from the mouth of this low life maggot.

jelliebean said:
What’s the worst that could happen?

Have you ever seen Beck debate the Acorn guy or the ladies on The View?
That’s the worst that could happen and it ain’t pretty.
He actually got drunk the day of the View interview and called in “sick” to his TV show and then phoned in to O’Relly all loopy on “Nyquil”. Any alcoholic knows that drinking Nyquil is a relapse.

It would be a disaster for Beck and he knows it.

BFD said:
He actually got drunk the day of the View

BFD is a maggot . But we all know that .

I would like to see the two get together. I would like to see the question put to Jones by Beck what the vetting process was like. What questions he was asked. who brought him in. I’d like to know what level of access a 9/11 truther had to the president. I’d like to know how it was deemed acceptable for Jones, what with his revolutionary communist past, published in pamphlet form, to make policy recommendations. I’d like for him to be asked to explain some of his race-laden comments and whether anyone in the white house had an indication that this was who he was. I’d like to know if Jones had ever disavowed his past expressed inflammatory, conspiratorial or revolutionary sentiments in private to white house employees in the vetting process, since nobody has been able to find the like in public records.

Then we can have the debate to what his ideas on capitalism are.

This could be a whole special on GBTV.

im_lovin_it said:
Annnnnnnnnd………..CHANGETHESUBJECT!! Where’s Keith’s name in this story? Can’t they both be cowardly blowhards?

Where did I say they couldn’t both be? But pointing out the overt hypocrisy of those who have defended KO from his non-debates, is a valid topic of discussion.

I’m asking for a little consistency. I think Olbermann is cowardly for refusing to even speak to someone who doesn’t expressly agree with him. I think Beck should debate Jones, and should jump at the chance to do so.

BFD said:
Have you ever seen Beck debate the Acorn guy or the ladies on The View?
That’s the worst that could happen and it ain’t pretty.
He actually got drunk the day of the View interview and called in “sick” to his TV show and then phoned in to O’Relly all loopy on “Nyquil”. Any alcoholic knows that drinking Nyquil is a relapse.

It would be a disaster for Beck and he knows it.

I’d actually forgotten about the View escapade.

Boy, you’ve got it bad when you resort to Nyquil.

The Lantern of Truth said:
BFD is a maggot . But we all know that .

He is right about that, you know?

Beck is a coward.

All Beck’s accusations are based on Van Jones own statements, his own youtube videos. Seriously liberals, if someone gives a speech and call himself a communist, then it’s ok to call him a communist even if he’s black!

Jones is a pipsqueak who scuttled out of the White
House in the middle of the night on a Labor Day weekend ,
after Glenn exposed him for what he is . He supported and made a CD with cop killer Mumia ,
who shot a policeman in the face as he lay hurt on the ground . He’s a Communist , a Truther ,
and a phony ” green jobs” expert . why waste time on a nonentity ?

ImNotBlue said:
Got it… you made it up.

What did I make up? My opinion. You’re right, I suppose, I did formulate it.

From whence cometh your opinions? Another website, perhaps? Which one?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
He is right about that, you know?

That’s why you are BFD are such a cute couple .

Couple of what ?

Don’t ask .

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
What did I make up? My opinion. You’re right, I suppose, I did formulate it.

Yes, you formulated something that you could have researched or inquired about. But instead, you “created” it, because that’s how you build most of your opinions… you figure out the conclusion, and then build the theory to fit it. But it remains fantasy.

From whence cometh your opinions? Another website, perhaps? Which one?

Oh, when something is provable, I try to use that as a source. I’ve seen video (don’t remember where, probably here) of a Beck rehearsal… where he and his crew were going through all the blocking and props for the show. So your “theory” is nonsense.

Didn’t Glen try to push the notion that despite disagreement, that people should try to get together? Though a respectable idea, he is completely contradicting it here.

The King is still fuming over Van Jones’ obvious racism.

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
All Beck’s accusations are based on Van Jones own statements

Bullcrap. The convicted felon accusations was an outright lie.
Funny how no one will address that.

Could one of you progressive sorts please explain to me why Barack Obama had Van Jones pack his stuff and GTFO in the middle of the night? Why is Van Jones not working in the White House?

Glenn Beck wimps out. I have lost my respect for him.

BFD, just as funny as how you won’t address Obama giving a racist communist a job.

BFD said:
Have you ever seen Beck debate the Acorn guy or the ladies on The View?
That’s the worst that could happen and it ain’t pretty.
He actually got drunk the day of the View interview and called in “sick” to his TV show and then phoned in to O’Relly all loopy on “Nyquil”. Any alcoholic knows that drinking Nyquil is a relapse.

It would be a disaster for Beck and he knows it.

Yeah, uh, it was a disaster for the ACORN guy. The guy trying to push ridiculous defenses made to look silly on Becks show and the guy who utterly failed to stop a growing scandal. You know, the guy who’s entire organization folded under prosecutions and congressional investigation for their misdeeds.

BFD said:
Bullcrap. The convicted felon accusations was an outright lie.
Funny how no one will address that.

No, it was wrong. A lie is when you know something isn’t true and say it anyway. Beck has said it was wrong, and that he got it wrong. He said that again today. So, Beck has addressed that, and just did so again. How is no one addressing it?

Why are you lying, BFD?

Paleoconservatarian said:
Yeah, uh, it was a disaster for the ACORN guy. The guy trying to push ridiculous defenses made to look silly on Becks show and the guy who utterly failed to stop a growing scandal. You know, the guy who’s entire organization folded under prosecutions and congressional investigation for their misdeeds.

Yes, here’s the guy who never debates anyone with Scott Levinson, ACORN scumbag extraordinaire. Good, good stuff.

Paleoconservatarian said:
Yeah, uh, it was a disaster for the ACORN guy.

If Beck was doing so well why did he literally start repeating everything the man said like a 5 year old child would do and then cut his mike and physically throw him out of the studio himself (or so he bragged after the break)?

That debate was the biggest abortion by a host that I have ever seen.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
What did I make up? My opinion. You’re right, I suppose, I did formulate it.

From whence cometh your opinions? Another website, perhaps? Which one?

Possibly from many media experts, many of whom are critics, who marvel and what a fantastic production Beck’s show is and how engaging is the content.

It doesn’t appear that there is much planning for any O’Beckerhead show,

ImNotBlue said:
THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
What did I make up? My opinion. You’re right, I suppose, I did formulate it.

Yes, you formulated something that you could have researched or inquired about. But instead, you “created” it, because that’s how you build most of your opinions… you figure out the conclusion, and then build the theory to fit it. But it remains fantasy.

From whence cometh your opinions? Another website, perhaps? Which one?

Oh, when something is provable, I try to use that as a source. I’ve seen video (don’t remember where, probably here) of a Beck rehearsal… where he and his crew were going through all the blocking and props for the show. So your “theory” is nonsense.

I said, “it does not appear”. That immediately indicates that what follows is my vision. I’m not obligated to Google some irrelevant Wikipedia citation to state what my vision is. Your vision may be different. In fact, it is likely not even your vision, but someone else’s. When Roger Ebert reviews a film and says that an actress’s delivery was wooden and formulaic, he doesn’t cite some other critic to support his view.

No get off your high horse, shovel up the poop and wash your hands. Or not.

Pablo said:
o, Beck has addressed that, and just did so again.

I love how Beck “addresses” things like the Van Jones lie and his “Obama hates White culture” comment many months AFTER the damage has been done.

Top notch.

Unfortunately, Beck is a former alcoholic with dyslexic and likely other neurologically based issues, his paranoid ravings, prophetic tone, and religious zeal made him more suitable to be in with Benny Hinn and other Carnival Barkers. Got to love the lady with the pink hair and false eye lashes, she reminds me of the whore of Babylon. Glenn appeared to be going that way when he continues with Palin, Ann Coulter, Rush. etc.

Watching Glenn was like wondering where another witch would drop from the sky.

Well, BFD. Obama did attend a racist church for twenty years. And his pastor is best friends with Louie Farrakhan, another racist. And Eric Holder has downplayed black crimes. And Obama was quick to condemn the Connecticut police. And Van Jones has made racist statements. So yeah, I don’t know where Beck might get the idea of Obama possibly having a tinge of racism.

Pablo said:
No, it was wrong. A lie is when you know something isn’t true and say it anyway. Beck has said it was wrong, and that he got it wrong. He said that again today. So, Beck has addressed that, and just did so again. How is no one addressing it?

Why are you lying, BFD?

We all know BFD’s take on lies. It’s a lie when anyone with the hint of conservative outlook gets the slightest thing wrong, and regardless of whether it is retracted or corrected as is industry standard it will always be to him an indication of their lying, deceitful nature. If it’s a liberal, it just isn’t discussed much.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I said, “it does not appear”. That immediately indicates that what follows is my vision.

Which is wrong.

I’m not obligated to Google some irrelevant Wikipedia citation to state what my vision is.

You believe you have no responsibility to say or research the truth… only to put forth uninformed opinions, when said information is readily accessible? Uh… okay.

Your vision may be different.

Yes, because I saw the evidence.

In fact, it is likely not even your vision, but someone else’s.

Who apparently co-opted my eyeballs.

When Roger Ebert reviews a film and says that an actress’s delivery was wooden and formulaic, he doesn’t cite some other critic to support his view.

Yes, but that is his opinion… and there could only be an opinion on such a topic. What you said, however, has an undeniable reality behind it. For example, it would be like me saying, “It appears that everyone who works for MSNBC sits around in drum circles all day.” That’s just a personal attack, with no evidence or reality behind it. I think we can do better.

No get off your high horse, shovel up the poop and wash your hands. Or not.

You shovel poop? Is that why you’re so angry? No indoor plumbing? Sorry, buddy. I didn’t know.

Jones would not have enough facts for a debate to fill a thimble. However he would have enough dimocrat talking points for an entire building.

Pablo said:
A lie is when you know something isn’t true and say it anyway.

It wasn’t just Beck’s error that Jones was a convicted felon, it was the whole narrative that Beck wove of the scary Black ex-con who picked up a dangerous ideology from hardened prisoners in his time spent in jail.

That wasn’t just a lie, it was a whopper!

Pablo said:
No, it was wrong. A lie is when you know something isn’t true and say it anyway. Beck has said it was wrong, and that he got it wrong. He said that again today. So, Beck has addressed that, and just did so again. How is no one addressing it?

Why are you lying, BFD?

We all know BFD’s take on lies. It’s a lie when anyone with the hint of conservative outlook gets the slightest thing wrong, and regardless of whether it is retracted or corrected as is industry standard it will always be to him an indication of their lying, deceitful nature. If it’s a liberal, it just isn’t discussed much.

BFD said:
If Beck was doing so well why did he literally start repeating everything the man said like a 5 year old child would do and then cut his mike and physically throw him out of the studio himself (or so he bragged after the break)?

That debate was the biggest abortion by a host that I have ever seen.

If the ACORN guy was doing so well, as is your implication by comparison, where is his job?

His balderdash was made to look foolish, and it helped only to sink his entire organization.

BFD said:
It wasn’t just Beck’s error that Jones was a convicted felon, it was the whole narrative that Beck wove of the scary Black ex-con who picked up a dangerous ideology from hardened prisoners in his time spent in jail.

That wasn’t just a lie, it was a whopper!

What wasn’t true, aside from the felon bit, which has been retracted?

Paleoconservatarian said:
His balderdash was made to look foolish, and it helped only to sink his entire organization.

Seriously dude, if you think Beck handled himself well that day I have nothing else to say to you.

BFD said:
Have you ever seen Beck debate the Acorn guy or the ladies on The View?
That’s the worst that could happen and it ain’t pretty.
He actually got drunk the day of the View interview and called in “sick” to his TV show and then phoned in to O’Relly all loopy on “Nyquil”. Any alcoholic knows that drinking Nyquil is a relapse.

It would be a disaster for Beck and he knows it.

I did see him on The View. He was caught lying and fessed up. I do think he had a steaming pile of Beck mess in his boxers when it was over. As a previous poster pointed out it would be a good opportunity for Beck to stand by his accusations and show Jones to be the racist, commie loving truther that he is…or more likely isn’t. It would be fun to watch.

Why did Barack Obama fire Van Jones? No one will address that. Why?

Pablo said:
What wasn’t true, aside from the felon bit, which has been retracted?

I’m just saying it’s hard to pick up an ideology when you spend overnight in a holding tank. lol

BFD said:
It wasn’t just Beck’s error that Jones was a convicted felon, it was the whole narrative that Beck wove of the scary Black ex-con who picked up a dangerous ideology from hardened prisoners in his time spent in jail.

That wasn’t just a lie, it was a whopper!

Jones is black. Jones is an ex-con. Jones did pick up his ideology in his time spent in jail, as per his own words. Communism is a dangerous ideology to the free market system and system of constitutional freedoms on which America was founded.

The appellation felon was retracted when information counter to that statement was presented

Scary black man is your race-baiting dog whistle.

Beck is correct in declining Van Jones’ offer to debate. Jones has spent a lifetime practicing and perfecting the art of deflecting and branching, and I have no doubt he could out-debate Beck, a political newcomer not at all trained in political debate. That doesn’t mean he’s not a POS commie chump who advocates for elitist control of the masses.

BFD said:
I’m just saying it’s hard to pick up an ideology when you spend overnight in a holding tank. lol

BFD is right, jones was a communist all the time

The main thing is to keep the attack on Beck, so Jones’ actual words won’t be scrutinized.

Come on, Beck. You can do better than that. Me thinks Beck is a big coward.

jistincase said:
Jones would not have enough facts for a debate to fill a thimble. However he would have enough dimocrat talking points for an entire building.

That would be an un-healthy “Green” building! LoL

Pablo said:
Why did Barack Obama fire Van Jones? No one will address that. Why?

Because it’s factually inaccurate. Van Jones resigned. It’s not like the White House just didn’t “renew his contract” like someone else…

Emma said:
Come on, Beck. You can do better than that. Me thinks Beck is a big coward.

If he won’t debate Jon Stewart; there’s no way in hell that Beck is debating Van Jones. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Mediaite:

Why don’t you get one of your better commentators to write this piece??

BFD said:
Seriously dude, if you think Beck handled himself well that day I have nothing else to say to you.

Beck is certainly no Bret Baier or Bill O’Reilly but we know that already since he isn’t a journalist. He’s a radio guy with a flair for dramatics. Even so, Levinson’s obfuscations and misdirections were patently ridiculous and no interviewer would have credited them seriously. Such a display as his goes a long way to show why ACORN fell apart so completely once real scrutiny came to bear.

Emma said:
Come on, Beck. You can do better than that. Me thinks Beck is a big coward.

A coward leads a DEMONIC mob to shut-down free speech! That would be Van Jones!

Bill Huggins said:
Because it’s factually inaccurate. Van Jones resigned.…

Guess what numbnuts-that’s how they do it in politics. Even Gen McChrystal “resigned”, even though everyone knows he would have been fired if he hadn’t.

Bill Huggins said:
If he won’t debate Jon Stewart; there’s no way in hell that Beck is debating Van Jones. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Neither are relevant!

juan said:
A coward leads a DEMONIC mob to shut-down free speech! That would be Van Jones!

hhahahahahahha……

Ann?……….how you doing you crazy fool?………

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BFD said:
He actually got drunk the day of the View interview and called in “sick” to his TV show

BFD set himself on fire while freebasing … again .

No problem , RRK ran out quickly to get some marshmallows .

Maybe they can debate the ATF operation Fast & Furious, begun under the Obama regime:

Page 27: [Special Agent John Dodson, the original whistle blower]

“Well, every time we voiced concerns…But every day being out here watching a guy go into the same gun store buying another 15 or 20 AK-47s or variants or . . . five or ten Draco pistols or FN Five-sevens . . . guys that don’t have a job, and he is walking in here spending $27,000 for three Barrett .50 calibers …and you are sitting there every day and you can’t do anything…”

Page 38: [Dodson, speaking about ATF supervisors in Phoenix and their disregard for lives lost due to Fast & Furious]

“[T]here was a prevailing attitude amongst the group and outside of the group in the ATF chain of command… I was having a conversation with Special Agent [L] about the case in which the conversation ended with me asking her are you prepared to go to a border agent’s funeral over this… because that’s going to happen. And the sentiment that was given back to me by both her, the group supervisor, was that…if you are going to make an omelette [sic], you need to scramble some eggs.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/20/gunwalker-the-fast-and-furious-scandal-expands/

winning said:

Beck is correct in declining Van Jones’ offer to debate. Jones has spent a lifetime practicing and perfecting the art of deflecting and branching, and I have no doubt he could out-debate Beck, a political newcomer not at all trained in political debate. That doesn’t mean he’s not a POS commie chump who advocates for elitist control of the masses.

I’m not at all sure about that. Jonees might have the edge in measured tones and though Beck is sometimes sloppy in his instant recall of odd facts, the fundamentals he has down pat. If it gets to the realm of the philosophy Beck would destroy Jones. Beck can go on and on on the finer points of the differences between his and Jone’s philosophies, having studied and understanding both. Jones only knows communism and, as reliant as it is on empty sloganeering, would falter in accurately critiquing it.

But Jones would probably prefer to keeps on the attack, getting into the personal. Which would allow Beck to get into Jones’ activities in the White House, his relationship with Soros and progressive intellectual laundering centers and his undocumented transformation into a person bereft of his former radical goals.

murphy0071 said:
Glenn appeared to be going that way when he continues with Palin, Ann Coulter, Rush. etc.
Watching Glenn was like wondering where another witch would drop from the sky.

Thank God for Palin, Ann Coulter, Rush, Beck and FOX News!

murphy0071 said:
Unfortunately, Beck is a former alcoholic with dyslexic and likely other neurologically based issues, his paranoid ravings, prophetic tone, and religious zeal made him more suitable to be in with Benny Hinn and other Carnival Barkers. Got to love the lady with the pink hair and false eye lashes, she reminds me of the whore of Babylon. Glenn appeared to be going that way when he continues with Palin, Ann Coulter, Rush. etc. Watching Glenn was like wondering where another witch would drop from the sky.

And yet with all that, he’s more successful that you could ever dream. That’s what eats you up, ain’t it?

Paleoconservatarian said:
Jones only knows communism and, as reliant as it is on empty sloganeering, would falter in accurately critiquing it.

should read: would falter in accurately critiquing capitalism.

Seriously, he only knows how to attack it from a communistic perspective, not how it might actually work to people’s benifit. Having no clue, he’ll only score points with already committed, die-hard socialists.

BFD said:
It wasn’t just Beck’s error that Jones was a convicted felon, it was the whole narrative that Beck wove of the scary Black ex-con who picked up a dangerous ideology from hardened prisoners in his time spent in jail. That wasn’t just a lie, it was a whopper!

Who cares where he picked it up. He’s a commie truther. A combo you libs just love!

GuessWhoSuka said:
hhahahahahahha……

Ann?……….how you doing you crazy fool?………

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She’s no crazy fool!

Facts don’t LIE!

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Who cares where he picked it up.

People who work for a news organization should care if their facts are right, but I know that is not always the case with Fox.

BFD, as usally, you want to focus on the messenger. The man is a commie truther and Ozero and you libs love him. That says alot about you, but nothing I didn’t already know.

BFD said:
That’s really low to attack someone for 2 years and then be too chickenshit to debate him face to face.

How could there be a debate? What would they argue about? Beck says Van Jones is a communist and Van Jones agrees? Beck puts up a quote about Van Jones wanting to fundamentally change America and Jones agrees?

I don’t think there would be much to debate. Jones is what he is and he cannot pretend to be someone else.

Maybe if Jones had made the challenge a few months ago, something could have been worked out. But Beck has only a few shows left and does not have time to waste with a pointless debate. It would only confirm what we already know, and would not change a single mind — unless Jones decided to repudiate everything he’s ever said in his life. And who would believe him if he did that?

BFD said:
My point is Van Jones deserves some face time for the lie Beck told about him and let stand for four months.

He could have asked to appear months ago. He’s waited too long.

BFD said:
it would have been silly for Jones to appear on a show he was leading a boycott against. Now that it has been canceled it gives him the opportunity.

BFD, you actually make a good point…. a reason for Van Jones to ask to appear now, and a reason for Beck to tell him to take a flying leap.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
BFD, as usally, you want to focus on the messenger.

Yes, when the “messenger” is spreading lies usually the focus should be put on him and the news organization he works for.
When the messenger tells the truth then the focus can be on the subject.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
And yet with all that, he’s more successful that you could ever dream. That’s what eats you up, ain’t it?

You’re being unusually materialistic. Well, not for you. Russian mob bosses, high price call girls or call boys, drug lords, military dictators …. All of them are more successful than most of us. No one not presently residing in Utah aspires to be like them.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/ive-been-denying-the-obvious-but-this-is-the-last-straw-palin-really-is-an-idiot/

Pretty good throw down by Van Jones, but, why should Beck dignify Jones by debating him here, there, or anywhere? Beck’s better off doing to Jones what he has been doing to Jones all along: Criticizing him as thoroughly as possible. Keep hammering and hammering on Jones who is a self acknowledged Communist. EXCORIATE JONES, Glenn.

Bill Huggins said:
Because it’s factually inaccurate. Van Jones resigned. It’s not like the White House just didn’t “renew his contract” like someone else…

Oh, stop, Bill. We know how this works. They won’t talk about why they hired him and they won’t talk about why he’s gone. But you and I both know that he got that tap on the shoulder and got escorted out. You don’t get your resignation “released in the middle of the night, just after midnight, on a holiday weekend. “ when you’ve decided it’s time to go. You get that with a bootprint on your ass. So, why did Barack Obama do that?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
You’re being unusually materialistic. Well, not for you. Russian mob bosses, high price call girls or call boys, drug lords, military dictators …. All of them are more successful than most of us. No one not presently residing in Utah aspires to be like them.

So you’re “Proud Canadian” – who knew? lol

Um… BFD?

“It wasn’t just Beck’s error that Jones was a convicted felon, it was the whole narrative that Beck wove of the scary Black ex-con who picked up a dangerous ideology from hardened prisoners in his time spent in jail. That wasn’t just a lie, it was a whopper!”

Really? It indeed was Beck’s error in assuming that since Jones went to jail briefly after the episode — that he was convicted. No, he wasn’t convicted and therefore isn’t a felon. When he was called on it and found out that he wasn’t convicted, Glenn immediately corrected it. As for the “narrative” that he picked up a dangerous ideology in his time in jail being a “whopper”, then it was a “whopper” that Jones himself told.

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/the-new-face-of-environmentalism/Content?oid=1079539&showFullText=true

Jones had planned to move to Washington, DC, and had already landed a job and an apartment there. But in jail, he said, “I met all these young radical people of color — I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of.’” Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. “I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary.” In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. “I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th,” he said. “By August, I was a communist.”

Jon the hack writes:

“Beck and his co-hosts went through audio of the challenge bit by bit, making sure to point out every time Jones’ voice got raised as clear proof of just how terrifying and threatening he was. (However, they notably cut out the clip where Jones talks about how much he loves Popeye cartoons. I guess that part was less scary.)”

They cut out the part about the Popeye cartoons because it was non-germane drivel.

“They gave their rebuttal to every thing Jones said including his condemnation of Beck’s smear attacks against him. Beck and company argued that they have never made any smear attacks because everything they said was true which isn’t really the definition of a smear attack but whatever.”

When audio and video clips are played of someone saying or doing something, i.e. as Glenn Beck does when relating information about the avowed communist Van Jones, it is NOT a “smear tactic” but is “truth telling.” Jones is as mortified by people outside his enclaves hearing what he says and thinks and advocates as any other cockroach when the lights go on.

“The long and the short of it though is that Beck didn’t accept the challenge itself. He barely responded to it which, I suppose, is as good as declining outright.”

You (conveniently?) forget the many times Glenn Beck has invited Van Jones to appear on his program to debate. So does Van Jones–or is it that Van Jones is in reality a coward and was simply playing to his mind-numbed audience?

“Rather, Beck focused on the part where Jones claims he “loves” Beck as a brother and, instead of pointing out how silly that is, fought back by claiming that he totally loves Jones too! Heck, he loves him better!”

You’re not too much of a deep thinker, are you Jon? Glenn Beck used absurdity to point out the absurdity–and outright LIES–of Van Jones.

Your tripe may play well to the mentally challenged liberasl but it’s very shallow.
“

Beck and company argued that they have never made any smear attacks because everything they said was true which isn’t really the definition of a smear attack but whatever.

It’s not? That’s a rather bold and disturbing claim. So what, then, does qualify as a “smear”? Is all factual reporting that might reflect negatively on someone, then, a “smear”?

Since “smear” itself has negative connotations, is claiming that someone is “smearing” you then a “smear” against the accusee?

Oh my god Jon Bershad: “[Beck's radio team] gave their rebuttal to every thing Jones said including his condemnation of Beck’s smear attacks against him”

How is calling out a self-avowed communist / 9/11 truther a ‘smear attack’ ? Just because Beck, a conservative, called out a Democrat and ultimately made him resign doesn’t mean it’s a smear attack. Do you want commies working for your government?
Holy crap you are so partisan it’s annoying.

Azarkhan said:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/ive-been-denying-the-obvious-but-this-is-the-last-straw-palin-really-is-an-idiot/

Could not even get through half of that — painful listening to the stumbling and bumbling of Obama and even more so the very hateful comments towards Palin. The underlying anger that she even exists is so ugly, and I just can’t wrap my head around it.

Beck responded — but he didn’t accept the challenge. Van Jones continues to wait for that phone to ring – Beck won’t do it. ? Glenn? How about it? I’d buy a ticket to that show. Simple question for a simpleton like you, Beck – are you going to do it? Or are you, as most thinking people have assessed you, a poultry produced fertilizer pellet?

why not beck, go ahead and debate the communist

Beck would never debate Van Jones. Beck is too much of a coward.

BFD said:
That’s really low to attack someone for 2 years and then be too chickenshit to debate him face to face.

But is anyone really surprised?

Not I.

Any story making Superman of Beck, even by way of analogy, isn’t doing it’s job.

Did Van Jones improve Oakland?

Van Jones was a Community Organizer in Oakland…now did HE fix Oakland?

NOPE

Oakland is now more far left and yet is now worse.

Bill Adkins said:
Beck responded — but he didn’t accept the challenge. Van Jones continues to wait for that phone to ring – Beck won’t do it. ? Glenn? How about it? I’d buy a ticket to that show. Simple question for a simpleton like you, Beck – are you going to do it? Or are you, as most thinking people have assessed you, a poultry produced fertilizer pellet?

WutzUpWithThat said:
Beck would never debate Van Jones. Beck is too much of a coward.

Any theories on why Van Jones never showed up on Beck’s or any other Fox News show since his resignation almost 2 years ago despite his being invited many times? Any clue why Van Jones, who had to resign after coming under media scrutiny in no small part due to Glenn Beck’s attention, would wait until almost the last day of Beck’s show to finally show his upset at that attention? So much so as to issue his ‘challenge to a debate’ when Beck’s schedule no longer has future open dates in which this might actually come about?

Appears to me as if the coward is and always has been Van Jones.

Van Jones is like every other lefty, they have to do or say something to stay revelant.

He is collapsing under his own words.

Azarkhan said:
Beck will be quoting Martin Luther King, Jr.

I can’t think of anything I’d find more repulsive. Beck is too low to be the dirt on the bottom of King’s shoes.

BFD said:
That’s really low to attack someone for 2 years and then be too chickenshit to debate him face to face.

But is anyone really surprised?

Alice67 said:
Not I.

For that matter, BFD and Alice67, seeing as he’s studiously avoided Fox shows, presumably because, as you would see it, he couldn’t have received a fair shake there, on which other major main stream media outlets has Van Jones exposed himself to questioning since his forced resignation almost two years ago?

Who’s the chickenshit again?

jelliebean said:
I did see him on The View. He was caught lying and fessed up.

False.

Seven-Minute Slam: The Inside Story of Glenn Beck’s ‘Ambush’ on ‘The View’
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=352443&widget=1

CanofSand said:
False.

Seven-Minute Slam: The Inside Story of Glenn Beck’s ‘Ambush’ on ‘The View’
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=352443&widget=1

If they gave out Golden Weasels, Beckie should get a lifetime award for that.
Walters “didn’t call him over.”
How did he get in her face?
Full disclosure: at about 7:10, my stomach rebelled and I stopped watching.

Paleoconservatarian said:
For that matter, BFD and Alice67, seeing as he’s studiously avoided Fox shows, presumably because, as you would see it, he couldn’t have received a fair shake there,

Please. tell us when F#X invited him, to what show, and why he declined, as you seem to be intimate with the insiders there.

Paleoconservatarian said:
should read: would falter in accurately critiquing capitalism.

Seriously, he only knows how to attack it from a communistic perspective, not how it might actually work to people’s benifit. Having no clue, he’ll only score points with already committed, die-hard socialists.

You have to remember that Jones and his ilk, until recently, could not display who they really are outside of their circle of like minded commies, yet did quite well in forming opinion in the inner cities. Not sure how he’d do with normal Americans, but don’t underestimate snake oil salesmen like Jones.

JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE PARANOID DOES NOT MEAN THEY’RE NOT AFTER YOU

Glackin said:
Please. tell us when F#X invited him, to what show, and why he declined, as you seem to be intimate with the insiders there.

The question to the general public, most specifically to the various Jones defenders that have been blowing into the thread, was to get THEM to invalidate any assumptions they might’ve harbored concerning the validity of Van Jones’ fallacious challenge or his willingness to subject himself to serious questioning both regarding his days in the administration and the activities he participated in before he was asked to join the administration by showing that Jones doesn’t actually do serious media. He has no standing to issue challenges when he refuses to be challenged. Similarly your question.

That question and challenge stands.

winning said:
You have to remember that Jones and his ilk, until recently, could not display who they really are outside of their circle of like minded commies, yet did quite well in forming opinion in the inner cities. Not sure how he’d do with normal Americans, but don’t underestimate snake oil salesmen like Jones.

A debate better done in the light of day, which increase the chances of casual bystanders being exposed to those willing to point out the deficiencies of snake oil.

Back is afraid of his own shadow.

Yoda002 said:
Back is afraid of his own shadow.

If you’re gonna insult someone, at least use spell check. Otherwise you end up looking stupid.

Paleoconservatarian said:
seeing as he’s studiously avoided Fox shows,

Until you show proof of the above statement, made by you, you are nothing but a right wing-nut ‘bot.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
at least use spell check.

“Back” is a valid word. Spell-check won’t alert.
The only need for grammar police is when the likes of MrTPar-Tay or ObamaAgenda (close?) drift away from any known dialect of English.
In Short, sometimes folks FU when they type.
There is enough else wrong to let it slide.

Glackin said:
If they gave out Golden Weasels, Beckie should get a lifetime award for that.
Walters “didn’t call him over.”
How did he get in her face?
Full disclosure: at about 7:10, my stomach rebelled and I stopped watching.

Man are you people something else.

Full disclosure: The first seven minutes of CanofSand’s video is but the build up and background to the rest of the story. A long, boring and nearly pointless story. Only after 7:10 does it begin to take off and show that Glenn Beck was fully in the right all along. Beck was ambushed on the View with false accusations.

Even more disclosure: Don’t even bother getting into it. What BFD, jelliebean and Glakin are attempting to resurrect so to subject Beck to any kind of criticism they can come up with is a rehashing of a spat between Whoopi Goldberg / Barbara Walters and Glenn Beck over what happened on an Amtrak train to Washington. Did I say long, boring and nearly pointless? To all but inveterate Glenn Beck haters this is absolutely nothing that has no affect on anything except maybe minor tweaks in people’s already conceived perceptions. To anyone who still cares to go there, Beck haters all, Glenn Beck is ultimately right even in this.

Ultimate disclosure: You people are silly in the extreme for even bringing this up.

Meanwhile, revolutions are in the street of the Arab world, threatening to collapse the peace of the world, the economy is heading into greater choppier waters than at any point in any of our lives and communist, 9/11 truther Van Jones is issuing cowardly, fake challenges for debates with no basis in reality so to play victim to his own crowd.

Have fun, progressives, standing by and defending your various lies, slanders and deceits.

Paleoconservatarian said:
Meanwhile, revolutions are in the street of the Arab world, threatening to collapse the peace of the world,

Miss Mubarek and Ghaddafi much?

Paleoconservatarian said:
June 20, 2011 at 10:00 pm  (Quote)

I’m still waiting for you to show where Jones refused to appear after an invitation from F#X.
BUT YOU CAN’T DO IT!

PHONY!

Beck is such a pussy. He refuses to debate anyone of substance.

Yoda002 said:
Back is afraid of his own shadow.

Hardly. Van Jones hasn’t stood up to any serious media scrutiny since his forced resignation. He is in no position to challenge people to answer questions. He’s especially in no position to claim moral outrage now over allegations made that forced his resignation nearly two years ago. Certainly he doesn’t have a standing to interrupt Beck plans for his last shows and lay claim to Beck’s message.

By this childish act, Van Jones shows himself to be the type to brag in front of a few friends at recess how he’s going to beat some kid up sometime after school lets out but instead runs home at 3:01 to the hemline of his doting mother, only to claim the next day the boy never showed. You’re the friend who tells the other kids in school how brave Jones was when he talked to you.

Even if a good many in the class had seen Jones flee and knew his character, it would be a just bonus if Beck were to tell the class at large that next day that he’ll be in the courtyard waiting for Jones promptly at 3pm. On GBTV.

Glackin said:
Until you show proof of the above statement, made by you, you are nothing but a right wing-nut ‘bot.

Glackin said:
I’m still waiting for you to show where Jones refused to appear after an invitation from F#X.
BUT YOU CAN’T DO IT!

PHONY!

Glackin said:
Yeah, we’ve waited over three HOURS for you to prove that you aren’t a LIAR!

Like Van Jones made of Glenn Beck, you have no standing to expect something of me until you can prove that Jones made an effort to expose himself to serious questioning on any other serious venue. If you can’t, you show the fallacious nature of your own demands, like Van Jones made of Glenn Beck.

You’re not going to be able to turn burden of proof around by capitalizing your lettering.

I wonder which Canto Beck would appear in if Dante wrote Inferno today?

Probably either Honor or Courage, considering that it would necessarily be a MAJOR rewrite.

I’m confused. Was Van Jones fired by the White House, or did he quit and run away from the scrutiny?

Member of Congress said:
I’m confused. Was Van Jones fired by the White House, or did he quit and run away from the scrutiny?

Good question. As I recall, Jones was not openly fired, like Anita Dunn, he just sort of crept out in the middle of the night.

Beck is a pussy.

Righties-If you want to do a self-check on your mental health just count the number of times a day you say “commie” “communism” “communist” “socialist”- if the total is 3 or more times a day you’re legally insane.

Paleoconservatarian said:
Like Van Jones made of Glenn Beck, you have no standing to expect something of me until you can prove that Jones made an effort to expose himself to serious questioning on any other serious venue. If you can’t, you show the fallacious nature of your own demands, like Van Jones made of Glenn Beck.

You’re not going to be able to turn burden of proof around by capitalizing your lettering.

You have no standing to demand Van Jones defend himself ANYWHERE as long as the Constitution is still in effect. He was never charged with anything. If he had been, he still would have the presumption of innocence. Except at F#X.

adlerman said:
Righties-If you want to do a self-check on your mental health just count the number of times a day you say “commie” “communism” “communist” “socialist”- if the total is 3 or more times a day you’re legally insane.

Such an awkward assertion to make in regards to this thread about a personality who happens to be (or at least happens to have been, though nobody can find in the public record a tale of his disavowal) an avowed, and published, communist.

Glackin said:
You have no standing to demand Van Jones defend himself ANYWHERE as long as the Constitution is still in effect. He was never charged with anything. If he had been, he still would have the presumption of innocence. Except at F#X.

No, you’re right. A high level presidential aide who was forced to resign after it was exposed he’d previously advocated the overthrow of the government as a necessary step to the adoption of communism, a person, mind you, recruited by the president’s key, long-associated political adviser, Valerie Jarrett, shouldn’t be answerable to any hard questioning, let alone the passing curiosity of the American people.

Beck is a coward.