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Gov. Christie Defends Appointing Muslim Judge: ‘This Sharia Law Business Is Crap’

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At this juncture, it may be more efficient to highlight which interactions between New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and the media are not newsworthy. The Republican’s appointment of Muslim-American Sohail Mohammed to a state bench this week ruffled some feathers among some who fear the threat of Sharia Law, but when asked about those concerns, Gov. Christie made clear he had no patience for such “ignorance,” calling the complaints “crap.”

“Ignorance is behind the criticism of Sohail Mohammed,” he told a reporter asking about the complaints that he may be inadequate to be a judge because he defended Muslim Americans who were wrongly arrested post-9/11. “He is an extraordinary American who is an outstanding lawyer and played an integral role in the post-September 11th period in building bridges between the Muslim American community in this state and law enforcement,” Gov. Christie argued, adding that he was “disgusted, candidly, by some of the questions he was asked… at the Senate judiciary committee.”

But it was a follow-up question on the fear of Sharia Law that set the governor off. “Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all, it’s crazy!” he cried. “The guy is an American citizen!” He concluded that the “Sharia Law business is just crap… and I’m tried of dealing with the crazies,” adding with disgust and frustration that “it’s just unnecessary to be accusing this guy of things just because of his religious background.”

For most blue state governors, a fervent statement of support for a Muslim appointee would not exactly be news. It wouldn’t be news for a red state governor under most circumstances, either, but 2010 and 2011 haven’t precisely been the most Muslim-friendly years in American politics, the former being defined by the “Ground Zero Mosque” nontroversy and the latter seeing the looming “threat” of Sharia Law gain traction in Republican primary debates. Primary debates, it should be noted, in which many Republicans would have loved to see Gov. Christie participate.

Sure, the clip is entertaining because any clip of Gov. Christie being combative at a reporter is so, but it is particularly significant in that it gives one an idea of what Gov. Christie would sound like on the matter as a presidential candidate. It begs the questions: what would Gov. Christie have said on a podium across from Herman Cain while he insisted that “American law in American courts, period” was one of the more important platform issues of his campaign, or how he would respond to other states banning Sharia Law? The topic seems to put him in a far more centrist position than many others running.

Watch Gov. Christie defend Mohammed’s appointment below:


[h/t Glenn Greenwald]

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  • http://twitter.com/VonSyndicate Von Syndicate

    Is  Christie a RINO now?

  • Anonymous

    Chris Christie: RINO

  • Anonymous

    Look you guys are in such an echo chamber, you can’t even think for yourselves anymore.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    It has come to this: Chris Christie as RINO. That’s just dreadful.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I suppose we could tell some fat man jokes if you’d prefer.

  • Anonymous

    I for one am shocked at all of the hysteria over Sharia law and Islam nearly 10 years after 9/11, and of course am sure it has NOTHING to do with having elected a President with a Muslim name.

    The GOP would NEVER pander to the uneducated inbreds in their party by using their dogwhistles of racial/religious prejudice. Such a thing would be below the honor of the Grand Old Party.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

  • Anonymous

    Not to worry Christie.  We all know it’s OKIYAR.

  • Anonymous

    “LOL WIKIPEDIA LOL!!!!1111111″ There, saved you the trouble.

  • Anonymous

    Go right ahead, I wouldn’t mind.

  • Anonymous

    Hey let’s start making a list of who Christie was referring to when he was talking about such “ignorance” and “crap”….

    Cain
    Bachmann
    Beck
    King
    Gohmert
    Michelle-in-Utah
    Pablo
    Colorado_Conservative
    Big_Eddie
    …insert name name of every other Mediaite teabagger here

     

  • Anonymous

     Uh oh    Here come the teabaggers!!!

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Just because they have very high foreheads, tiny, tiny slivers of teeth under abundant gums and can’t be bothered to cojugate verbs doesn’t make them inbred!

  • http://twitter.com/TheGrottoTweets Laurie Beth

    I guess so. Heh.

    Great column, Frances. Good on you for calling the “Ground Zero mosque” idiocy a “nontroversy.” I usually hate portmanteaus made up by media people (if someone on CNN says “sexting” one more g.d. time…) but that one needs to gain more traction.

  • http://twitter.com/TheGrottoTweets Laurie Beth

    I guess so. Heh.

    Great column, Frances. Good on you for calling the “Ground Zero mosque” idiocy a “nontroversy.” I usually hate portmanteaus made up by media people (if someone on CNN says “sexting” one more g.d. time…) but that one needs to gain more traction.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    And, I thought a possum had died.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Of course, I’m not suggesting possums have poor hygiene.

  • Jp7077

    Isn’t it ironic how the word police are the first ones to call Christy fat?….or snigger at the fat jokes? Fat or not…..he speaks his mind…….and you know where he stands.

  • BeggarBoy

    Kudos to Christie, it’s just a shame that he has to say what he said at all, to have to make a defense like this. An American is an American is an American, and we should only be judged by our actions, not judged by the prejudices, fears, or speculations of others. And in case it matters, I live on the far far Left. 

  • John

    Chris Christie loves Muslims and doesn’t care if NJ is overrun by them. They are such peace loving souls. Sharia law is so fair and civil too. I hope they don’t approve same sex marriage, that will go real well in Muslim community.

  • Anonymous

    the man stood up for what is right and just in america, good job gov christie

  • ImNotBlue

    I’m surprised you haven’t already.  It’s always the “go to” comment for the folks who have nothing worthwhile to say.

  • ImNotBlue

    *ding*

    Race card.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Perhaps, you meant “snicker”.

  • ImNotBlue

    “The Republican’s appointment of Muslim-American Sohail Mohammed to a state bench this week ruffled some feathers among some who fear the threat of Sharia Law…”

    Can we get a quote or a link please?  Whose “feathers” were ruffled, specifically?

    Or is this one of those, “We on the left just KNOW what you guys think… so we’ll tell everyone what you’re thinking, and insult you based on our imagination,” type situation?

  • http://twitter.com/jacksavidge Jack Savidge

    Is everyone on here insinuating that because this guy is muslim he will open the door to Sharia? That’s as idiotic as saying that I as a Christian will subvert US Law for Biblical mandate or a Jewish judge will institute the requirements of the Torah.  There is nothing to dispute that this man will use American Law and American Law only, as would be as it should be,

  • average american

    Chris Christie answered the question superbly.
    Though I would have added to the people who still think Muslim judges are bad: The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land, which the judges are to uphold. They retain office for life during “good behavior”. If judges do not uphold the Constitution and decide to instead enforce Sharia, they get the boot. Plain and simple. It should not be a big deal.

  • Anonymous

     He always was, which is why he is electable on a national scale. He’s fairly liberal but preaches a fiscally responsible platform. No dogma, no Christ-upside-the-head. Independent voters dream.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Well there went Christie/Rubio 2016. Bye Chris…..Tell Sarah I said “what’s up” 

  • Sean

    Islam is a 3rd world death cult. Anyone who believes in it should not be allowed near any posistion of power. I wouldn’t want a follower of David Koresh to be a Judge anymore than I would want a follower of the religon of death to be a Judge.

  • Anonymous

    I hope not. I hope they look to him as an example to be followed.

  • BeggarBoy
  • Jp7077

    no….I meant  snigger

    snig·ger/ˈsnigər/
    Noun: A smothered or half-suppressed laugh.Verb: Give such a laugh: “they snigger at him behind his backGuess that word on your list too……

  • Anonymous

    Nice.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. That’s the type of candidate Republicans need out front and center as a leader of the party, running for president.

  • Anonymous

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903999904576470680561590162.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
    “To many of us, this was political expediency, trying to court favor
    with a growing population, and that’s not what the judiciary is supposed
    to be about,” said Carolee Adams, president of the Eagle Forum of New
    Jersey, a conservative group.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Chris Christie is obviously a RINO, in fact everyone except for me is a RINO. I will be voting for myself in 2012 as the only pure Republican candidate, and that is for all offices.

  • Anonymous

    Would vote for Christie in a nano second over boy blunder!!!

  • ImNotBlue
  • ImNotBlue

    Please do not quote Schlussel.  As anyone who knows anything about her career, she’s one of those folks who’s out there simply for herself.  She is not taken seriously by… well, anyone.

  • Anonymous

    To be a true republican one must hate Islam completely.

  • Anonymous

    It must suck for teabaggers when even their idols think they are ignorant bigots.

  • ImNotBlue

    I’ll reply in @nationman:disqus ’s post.

  • realheadline

    Typical lib strawman fallacy (only makes sense to sheep/other libs). They use this one a lot. They assign someone a thought or position, by ‘mind-reading’, then attack the false position. This is what passes for ‘deep thought’ in lib echo chambers. Mediaite staff knows better but practice it anyway for what they consider the greater good. To conservatives they just come off as disingenuous liars.

  • ImNotBlue

    Good… so we’ve got one group which is apparently upset.  One group.  One.

    Are these folks (one obscure group) the folks the caused the press to ask all kinds of questions at the presser?  Are these the folks who were referred to above?  Seems like a lot of talk for such a small organization.

  • ImNotBlue

    Very true.

    If only the “far far left” would remember that, and stop calling people racists, homophobes, sexists, inbred, terrorists, hostage takers, and on and on and on… when they disagree with Democrats.

  • ImNotBlue

    Dumb.

  • ImNotBlue

    So far, I think maybe one or two people are saying that.  One or two people really don’t count as “everyone” do they?

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    You know whats odd?  All the top name blow hards here are finally agreeing?  Both sides even. 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, most conservative aren’t to be taken seriously but that doesn’t change the fact she is out there voicing her opposition to this appointee.

    So why don’t you take your “Please do not quote Schlussel” whining to the WSJ because they are using her as their prime example as well…

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903999904576470680561590162.html

  • Anonymous

    Yes. I don’t get the whole Sharia panic. I could start up a religion tomorrow and as part of that religion have a set of “laws” called Censure’s law. Censure’s law could dictate that anyone who likes Twilight be locked away in prison, people that like Justin Beiber be disqualified from ever being able to vote, and allow for the murder of trashmen when they just throw the can on its side, after emptying it, instead of setting it down upright. The thing is, even if I got people to buy into it, it wouldn’t matter from a judicial standpoint. All of those things are already illegal. I just grouped them together under the title Censure’s law. There’s no need to introduce redundant legislation to outlaw Censure’s law, because the individual objectionable acts in it are already outlawed.  

  • Anonymous

    Frances…please don’t perpetuate the (left wing talking point) myth that Muslims are persecuted in America. 
    Those who practice the Jewish faith are subject to much more attacks than are Muslims. They worship in America under greater safety than any other nation in the world. 
    Now, this is a big, fat softball for Christie to hit out of the park. He is law and order guy, so I doubt he would appoint a “Muslim” judge who uses Sharia law. Christie is now RINO either, he has more backbone than most Republicans and would sweep the floor with Obama if he ever debated him. Obama would need Chris Matthews, Bob Scheiffer and the media to debate for him..

  • Anonymous

    It;s funny how you’re trying to play down the SHARIA LAW! fear that the right wingnuts have openly and frequently talked about.

  • Anonymous

    not only that but she is such a freaking loon that she’s been banned by a lot of people.  She made up a bunch of crap about Hannity after he wouldn’t allow her on his show again.  

    She’s nuts really. lol

  • Anonymous

    here I thought you had a bit more class than the average far left loon.  You had to prove me wrong didn’t you?.  

  • Anonymous

    Its hard for the rest of the Republicans to do anything when they have radical teabaggers controlling them.  

  • Anonymous

    sucking tea bags.  Is that what station in life you have succumbed to?  Oh how the mighty have fallen.
    lol

    You are so into your attempted smear campaign that you got everything wrong.  If for a second you think anyone takes dumb Debbie seriously you are a candidate for a lobotomy because there is something dreadfully wrong in your old noodle.  

  • Anonymous

    Gov. Christie made clear he had no patience for such “ignorance,” calling the complaints “crap.”……“Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all, it’s crazy!” he cried. “The guy is an American citizen!” He concluded that the “Sharia Law business is just crap… and I’m tried of dealing with the crazies,”

    WELL DAYYYYYYUMMMMM !!!!!!!!!!
    Gov Christie does have hugeeeeeeeee nads……he called you stupid assed racist pieces of dogshit out…Hobbits are now officially The Crazies…I see by the comment section you poopbutts threw Christie right off Racist Island…He told you dipshits he didnt want to run for president, now i guess you dumbasses will stop asking him too….hahahahahaha….the alternative universe that you freaks created for yourselves is caving in on ya huh?????…it was probally his near death expierence last week that snapped his fat ass back to reality…the grim reaper must have told him “If I have to come back here again I’m taking you back to Hell with me”….now dont any of you fools go running down to the general store buying fertilizer and kerosene…it aint that bad YET….auggggghhhhhhh THE MOOSLIMS ARE A COMIN ,THE MOOSLIM ARE A COMIN….RUNNNN FOR THE HILLSSSSSSSSS

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to say that’s just lazy but I think you may just be dumb enough to believe what you wrote.

  • Anonymous

    Prob sucks worse belonging to the 40% and declining club who ignorantly bought into the hopey changey thingy!!

  • Exgoper

    Good for Christie for going rogue. There’s hope for him yet.

  • Anonymous

    Read Mediaite comments for a while and you’ll see the festering asshole of bigotry and hate that the GOP has become.

  • Anonymous

    Actually it was the religious prejudice card. I just used the word “racial” in there. I’m well aware that racism died in early November 2008.

  • Anonymous

    Sort of like assuming all Muslims believe what some Muslims do, right?

  • Guest

    What if the people who disagree with Democrats are racist homophobe inbred sexists?

  • Anonymous

    I say it’s official, let’s kick out Barry and put Christie in his place…

  • http://twitter.com/soaked2thebone Dianne

    Sharia law has been banned in several states, it’s not just one lone nut making a fuss about it.

  • http://twitter.com/soaked2thebone Dianne

    Well, Censure, you are so right but let’s face it there are a lot of people out there who react to buzz words like Sharia Law and either don’t have any common sense and/or got scared so stupid by 9/11 that they still can’t think straight. It’s sad because by and large I don’t think they represent the American spirit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VO6CPZK2E2Y4G7KHEJDSVBKNTI Rick

    Better yet, just read one multiply-liked comment below.

  • david r

    If more moderate Republicans had had the guts to stand up to the fringe nuts, I think Obama would be in trouble.  As it stands now, I can’t see any of the current contenders beating him.  Not that he has done a good job.  He is just a great campaigner with an uncanny understanding of public opinion.

  • Anonymous

    I ‘conclude,’ Christie has made a mistake.  History, tells us to be wary of Muslim’s as their allegiance is not to anything or anyone, but Allah.

    There have been numerous, documented cases, recently, in the Military, whereby a Muslim’s fidelity to our Nation has wavered, at the least!

    Appointing a Muslim Judge, who sits in Judgement of others, is a foolish act.

    PURVEYOR  

  • BeggarBoy

    Well, Christie called the complaints crap and the accusers ignorant, so someone must have been complaining, and he wasn’t talking about the questioner.

  • Anonymous

    And O’rielly,  Limbaugh, Bucannon,Ingram,Erickson, Carlson & Carlson,Scarbrough,Tancredo, Gingwich,Perry,Barbor,Dobbs,Malkin,Santorium,Palin,Hagee,Brewer,Blackburn,Lee…….damn the list is getting long……may be time to open the Fema Camp

  • Anonymous

    hell hes the very definition of a fattass…he’s 5’10 670lbs……intro your boy to the salad bar , give him a taebo video or summin….its not FAT OR NOT……ITS FATTTTTTTTT

  • Anonymous

    no he didnt……hehehehehehehehe

  • Anonymous

    I thought what SEAN wrote was completely reasonable, considering Islamic interaction with the rest of world, since the Munich Olympics.  Maybe earlier?

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    This Post I agree with you and was well written.  I find it difficult to reconcile your “Dumb” comment to Sean, with this.  

    Are you one of those people who likes to say: “Most Muslims are really swell, except a few bad apples?”

  • Anonymous

    Do you wear a straightjacket while you type? 

  • Greg
  • Sean

    “poopbutts” eeh. I think we have a public school teacher posting here.

  • Anonymous

    of course not dumbass you cant type with a straightjacket on…….clearly youre an example of why homeschooling fails

  • ImNotBlue

    It’s a good thing there’s no hate on the left.  I’d hate to think about what that would look like.  It would probably come from someone who didn’t really know what they were talking about, was really nasty and disrespectful towards people who disagree with them, and completely lacking when it comes to self awareness.

    I wonder, can I think of anyone like that around here.  Hmm…

  • ImNotBlue

    Really, when it comes down to it… it’s the hypocrite card.

    Can’t insult religions… unless it’s Christianity.  Can’t attack  someone for believing something different… unless they’re Mormon.  Can’t criticize someone based on race… unless they’re white.

    But then again, it’s you Pub.  Just go back to wishing death on people.  Play to the strengths.

  • ImNotBlue

    I’d recommend you prove it first.

  • ImNotBlue

    It’s funny how the comments of one person can become the “voice of many” when it helps the left.

    But, talk about someone like Michael Moore, who gets millions of people to see his “movies,” and invited to Democratic events… but we’re constantly told “He doesn’t speak for Democrats,” when he says something particularly strange and offensive.

    Funny how that works.

  • ImNotBlue

    No?

  • http://www.facebook.com/mattketcham Matt Ketcham

    I want Chris Christie to run…otherwise, I won’t be nearly as invested in the campaigns.  If one of the wedge issue candidates (Bachmann, Palin, Santorum, Pawlenty) takes Iowa, South Carolina, and the nomination, Obama will have it in the bag.  Sorry to brag, conservatives, but our guy ran the best presidential campaign in history.  McCain didn’t look frustrated and defeated in the 2008 debates because he’s an old guy; he scored some points on foreign policy, but the major policy questions of today are on taxes and spending, and Obama’s only challenge in that discussion is Christie.  It would be a fun general election.

  • Anonymous

    that’s why if you guys are smart you’ll go out and  put money on the champ tomorrow.. obama 2012 is a lock with this field… just wait til they really start campaigning.. they’re gonna eat each other alive..

  • http://Mediaite.com Frances Martel

    I usually hate portmanteaus, but I really like the word “portmanteau,” so my opinion remains torn. Life is hard.

    Portmanteaus, however, are always better than neologisms.

  • ImNotBlue

    Sometimes when someone says something really dumb, all you can do is point that out.  It’s not worth wasting the words.

    Yes, most Muslims are good, hardworking people.  Sadly, there are some folks who make a lot of noise, and use their religion as a way to inspire hate, and gain power.

  • ImNotBlue

    Actually, I’m trying to understand some of the comments above, the way the article was written, and why Christie was asked that question in the first place.  But you know… whatever.  Believe as you will.

  • Anonymous

    Did you read the WSJ article?

    It’s not just one person and they reported the story just like Mediaite did.

    I did not know that the WSJ was part of the Lamestream Media now.

    You Rightys cry foul so often you rarely make sense anymore.
    Address the damn topic and stop whining about the media, mkay? That’s just a dodge.
    God, you’re getting worse than felix in blaming everything on the media.

  • ImNotBlue

    “a 3rd world death cult” is reasonable?

    Really?

  • ImNotBlue

    No way you’re a real left-winger.  I just don’t believe anyone can make this little sense, and be this goofy without trying.

  • Anonymous

    so you have to resort to yelling and screaming cause you’ve got nothing.  Your gauge is sitting on empty there pal. lol

  • Anonymous

    well then how did you manage?  I know – you’re really a magician and have 3 arms.

  • BeggarBoy

    No

  • Anonymous

    Ahh there’s one republican in a while that I can respect for behaving like a reasonable person and not just an intolerant joke like the other GOP

  • Anonymous

    Completely… Or maybe, you’d prefer “a third world peace and love cult?” LOL Any culture that treats women the way Islam does, isn’t worth spit! Start from that premise and YOU can’t win a debate supporting Islam. Ouch!

  • Anonymous

    Did you read her comment section?
    A lot of people agree with her.

  • realheadline

    Wrong, it’s nothing like that but this is a great example of what I was talking about.. You assign the position: Realheadline thinks all Muslims believe alike. Then pretend like you have proved some imaginary point. The collective then joins in with ‘like’. Excellent example of a strawman and ‘group think’, thanks for the help, much appreciated.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, only the “far far left”call people names unjustly.  What utter crap.

  • Anonymous

    Well said, cjdohio1!

  • Anonymous

    BTW, I hit the “like” button accidently.

  • Anonymous

    its what i do asswipe…dont like it ???…..you can kiss my u know what

  • Anonymous

    I should hope not, refering to Dearborn, MI. as “Dearbornistan”.  Creepy.

  • Anonymous

    oh i was talking in a language that i thought a dumbass hobbit might understand….but i was wrong ic….as simple as i put it, it still went right over your head

  • TXarc

    He just lost the teabagger vote. Hating Muslims and gays is their #1 priority.

  • Tedderman

    But honestly, both are delicious when served in a white wine and garlic with truffle sauce.

  • Anonymous

    oh im real…believe that…..anytime you want to take me to task, lets have at it, im here to wear you uneducated hobbits out……get it in gear son…….LETS ROLL

  • Anonymous

    i would imagine a hannity wannabe like you would be an expert on lies…..the problem here is you conservatives are to freaking dumb to compete….i have an relaxing time in here…..hobbits are easy…coming into the safe haven for morons kinda thrills me…..

  • Anonymous

    What a thought, if Jesus were an Evangelical CPA.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand?  Was that supposed to be humor or were you making an obscure point that, apparently, I missed?  Is there a hidden insult contained within?

    Next time, refer me to the “Annoying Orange” as it might be funny and certainly more relevant.

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    As I recall, I bloodied your nose, at least once?

    You don’t play chess?  Thats right, I remember.  You got all bent out of shape when the “going got tough.”

  • http://twitter.com/RemiBernard Remi Bernard

    I rarely agree with Gov. Christie, but this common sense “gimme a break” answer was awesome. Monica Crowley was babbling about The Great Sharia Law Threat on The Five today like it’s this Big Problem that’s sweeping the nation. It isn’t, it’s not.

  • Anonymous

    side not ..the fact that republicans gave themselves the names tea baggers and hobbits is more than slightly funny to me…HOBBITS!!! i don’t mean to yell but damn.. thanks john mccain that gets more funny everyday..

  • Anonymous

    bwhahah and the movie the Hobbit comes out next Christmas .. they’ll be running ads during the election run up… that Hobbit nickname isn’t going anywhere… man that’s funny..

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    It seems the only ‘mainstream’ Republicans who can actually say sensible things every now and then are moderate blue-staters.  Just about 99.9% of red-state Republicans are fucking morons who THINK they know about “good foreign policy” and “real economics” but know NOTHING and have a lot of theories in their heads but little actual evidence to back up their assertions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    Good on Christie for beating down the Islamophobic rhetoric on the Right.  It seems SOME people in this country will oppose ANY Muslim appointment, or at least be extremely skeptical JUST BECAUSE they’re Muslim, which is NOT what this country was founded on.  Did you know Thomas Jefferson actually had an iftar at the WH AND a Koran??  One of the brightest Founders would’ve DESPISED those anti-Muslim bigots like Pam Geller and others who smear good men like Feisel Abdul Rauf, who has NO CRIMINAL RECORD, no record of saying ANYTHING in support of terrorism or bad shit like stoning people for getting raped, no NOTHING.  He’s the prototype of a ‘good American Muslim.’

  • Anonymous

    This coming from the same guy who called me a Jew Hater for using a Yiddish word. Right, you are the warrior for those who are wrongly labelled. Right, take a look at the mirror my friends, yo represent what you claim to despise. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    Ever heard of the Crusades, Inquisition, and so much more?? YOUR religion has killed MILLIONS as well!  Perhaps even MORE in the long run than Islam ever did if we were to add it all up.  Yet few people refer to Christianity as a “death cult”, so why do YOU, in your utter arrogance, think it’s ok to refer to Islam that way??  Sure, you can cherry-pick certain really unsavory verses (surahs) in the Koran, but SO WHAT.  The Bible has PLENTY of disturbing shit!  Like almost all of mankind being WIPED OUT by a vengeful, hateful God except a family of 8.  Or “God” allowing his “people” to be ENSLAVED by the Egyptians, Babylonians, etc. SIMPLY BECAUSE they “were too sinful.”  

    Don’t start with your sanctimonious bullshit.  Your religion is NO BETTER!  FOOL

  • Anonymous

    I wonder how the crazies and bigots are feeling now? How do you feel? when your phoniness is exposed by one of your own? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    And terrorism? HA! Even IF you count up all the terrorists, they still amount to less than 1% of all Muslims (over 1 billion total)!  And it’s not like there AREN’T Christian and Jewish terrorists.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    Plus, if we were to add up ALL the people who ever committed acts of terrorism based on their religions (not just those who SAY they’re committing terrorism specifically in the name of their religions), I’m sure the numbers would be similar between Islam and Christianity.  Just because in the last 20-30 years, there’s been a sudden wave of Islamic terrorism, you can’t just say, “It’s a death cult.”  I mean… REALLY?  You’re gonna erase all of Muslim history and achievements and only focus on the last few decades because of a relative few bad apples?

    THAT is the height of ignorance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    The really sad thing about all this anti-Muslim bigotry, though, is that it ONLY started with 9/11!  Before 9/11, Muslims lived among the rest of Americans pretty peacefully.  There was harmony and all that other good shit. They were RESPECTED as ‘one of us.’  But because of 9/11 and a sudden ‘increased awareness’ by Americans of Islamic terrorism worldwide, we have to be in CONSTANT FEAR of Muslims and call them every name in the book and trash their religion?? WHY?  This is ridiculous!  We’ve let post-9/11 paranoia and fear take over, rather than rationality.  19 guys somehow “ruined” it for 5 million or 3 million or so Muslims.  Fucking ignoramuses on the Right…

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    Have American Muslims suddenly become “more violent” or “more pro-terrorist” since 9/11?? I highly doubt it.  It’s just that so many conservatives have “reeducated” themselves to such an insane degree about “the true Islam” that they can’t think straight anymore.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    There are less than 10 million Muslims in America!  There’s NO WAY they could even BEGIN to “impose sharia law” on us if they tried.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D6ZUH64YBUPCSXMPMJYVRHRUXI Aeeadd Aeea

    go go

    good—–wwwjordanforworldcom

  • http://twitter.com/RemiBernard Remi Bernard

    Don’t give yourself a heart attack, mate. I agree that Sharia Law hysteria is ridiculous, Pam Geller is a moron, and Gov. Christie was cool to say what he said; but Islam is a crap fake religion oppressing millions, and having the Twin Towers reduced to rubble by those reprobate motherf***ers’ll get on your nerves. “ONLY started with 9/11″ is a silly comment.

  • Anonymous

    You’re totally right.  The problem is the real power of the “Republican” party are the talking head extremists on the radio and FoxNews.

    They have this amazing ability to get the fringe so worked up with fear that they have become force to be reckoned with at town halls and at the primaries and that has scared the fuck out of the “moderate Republicans.”

  • Anonymous

    LOL. Don’t you remember that you openly said that the rape of women in France is normal? HAHA,the poor little chimp suffers from memory lose.

    Little chimpy skyfet’s “logic”-
    ridicule the barbaric and murderous cult of Islam = BAD >:^(
    Support the rape of French women because it’snormal = GOOD :^)

    Your mind is twisted, little chimpy.

  • Anonymous

    Christie is a smart man with real integrity. Not that I would draft him to be president. Political differences, but I sure won’t argue with him on this one.

  • Anonymous

    And this coming from a little chimp who’s ok with the rape of French women.

    All hail little chimpy shyfet, king of hypocrisy!

  • Anonymous

    Might want to re-word that. Kinda confusing about Christie’s sanity.
    Just a gentle nudge.

  • Anonymous

    I believe Chrisite is right. The US constitution would never allow the cult of Islam to have that kind of power. After all, the constitution is the law of the land. (despite how much “liberals” hate this fact, am I right anti- 1st and 2nd admandmant lefties?) Those on the right who think that sharia law will happen are just as paranoid as the 99.9% of “liberals/progressives”who “think” republicans will turn America into a christian theocracy.

  • Anonymous

    Much of the time the very people who call others racist, homophobic, and sexist; are racist, homophobic, and sexist themselves.

  • Anonymous

    He is very ignorant. That is not to say your selective remarks are any better. The idea that a single thing is to blame for any period of imperialism is completely absurd. Still some people are incredibly narrow and can’t handle complex time frames; thus blaming singular scapegoats for an entirety.

  • Anonymous

    He is very ignorant. That is not to say your selective remarks are any better. The idea that a single thing is to blame for any period of imperialism is completely absurd. Still some people are incredibly narrow and can’t handle complex time frames; thus blaming singular scapegoats for an entirety.

  • Anonymous

    He is very ignorant. That is not to say your selective remarks are any better. The idea that a single thing is to blame for any period of imperialism is completely absurd. Still some people are incredibly narrow and can’t handle complex time frames; thus blaming singular scapegoats for an entirety.

  • Anonymous

    He is very ignorant. That is not to say your selective remarks are any better. The idea that a single thing is to blame for any period of imperialism is completely absurd. Still some people are incredibly narrow and can’t handle complex time frames; thus blaming singular scapegoats for an entirety.

  • Anonymous

    He is very ignorant. That is not to say your selective remarks are any better. The idea that a single thing is to blame for any period of imperialism is completely absurd. Still some people are incredibly narrow and can’t handle complex time frames; thus blaming singular scapegoats for an entirety.

  • Anonymous

    He is very ignorant. That is not to say your selective remarks are any better. The idea that a single thing is to blame for any period of imperialism is completely absurd. Still some people are incredibly narrow and can’t handle complex time frames; thus blaming singular scapegoats for an entirety.

  • Anonymous

    Hobbits were the good guys. Stop trying to justify your immaturity, vitriol, and idiocy. It wont change anything.

  • Anonymous

    Remi, it’s complicated.

    For one thing, there is too much Political Correctness in demanding that we respect other cultures just because they exist. I would be the last person to tell you you must do that. But, there is also When in Rome, do as the Romans do. If you don’t like what Romans do, stay out of Rome.

    As for Muslims who live in the US, they do as we do, including having only one wife, not stoning adulterers, and so on. Heck. I even met a guy from Saudi Arabia who said “I have only one wife, and I love her very much!” It was important to him that I as an American understood that. This was in China.

    On the other hand, I sponsored a Saudi Prince through Infantry Officer training, and he was every bit the a-hole you would expect. I’m saying people are people, and not everybody does everything that you would expect because of their religion or culture. There are variations of Muslims and there are variations of Middle Eastern cultures.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Even thought he just called you a crazy?

  • Anonymous

    why you mad though?  hey theres nothing wrong with a tea bag either  between 2 consenting adults of course… still doesn’t make it less funny..

  • Anonymous

    Since when is Palin a candidate? Just because you type it and wish for it ain’t gonna make it so.

  • Anonymous

    Ouch! No neutrality there.

  • Anonymous

    A man only talks that fast when he is lying. He can’t control that because subconscious nervousness is in control. It is total lack of conviction in his own words.

    He could be playing the auctioneer’s trick. Fast talking makes people bid without thinking, but in this case, he wants people to think they are thinking and he can’t pull it off.

  • Anonymous

    Obama still has to make a turnaround. He has to toughen up and get ahead of the negotiations instead of lagging behind. This time, schmegma’s references to chess are appropriate. Obama was playing, but he was always two moves behind.
    This August vacation is his chance to catch up because the other side thinks they have him in check, but there are still pieces on the board. They snooze, they will lose.

  • Anonymous

    Obama still has to make a turnaround. He has to toughen up and get ahead of the negotiations instead of lagging behind. This time, schmegma’s references to chess are appropriate. Obama was playing, but he was always two moves behind.
    This August vacation is his chance to catch up because the other side thinks they have him in check, but there are still pieces on the board. They snooze, they will lose.

  • Anonymous

    Earlier. It was a “Palestinian Problem” back then. Arafat (plus others who are forgotten now) and the PLO.

    My take is that religion has always been used as an excuse for the real reasons for war. Greed, greed, and more greed, for power if not wealth.

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t even try. Still, can’t argue them out of it any more than I could change the Pope’s attitude. So, I will act neutral.

  • Anonymous

    I think she will shun him.

  • Anonymous

    WOW. What a selective memory you have. This was about the DSK issue in NY. So if it’s rape, why are the charges being dropped? Some one needs an update before chatting rubbish.

  • Anonymous

    Saddly, I think it is worse than that. Those people who are panicked by Sharia Law think they know it well enough to argue in a Sharia court! Isn’t it all about stoning? Oh. And cutting hands off, but mostly about stoning gays and such. Not so good for women either. You know, the almost people we gave the vote to back in 1920.

  • Anonymous

    Sad but true. Kansas, at least. Maybe other states or localities.

  • Anonymous

    Come on. You have got to admit that lots of Fox talking heads made a
    very big deal about this stuff, Bachmann specifically stated that Sharia
    Law was already in effect in Dearborne, MI, and someplace in Texas. The
    Detroit Free Press also says Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin,
    and Rick Santorum backed her up on that.

    So, maybe you personally did not express that “thought or position,” but to deny that Fox news did with very little complaint by Fox viewers is a bald faced lie. 

  • Anonymous

    Yup. There it is. More proof of redline’s lie. This is not some strawman position made up by liberals, and that growing population of Muslims in New Jersey is 1.69% of the total population. Not smart politics to go for that vote.

  • Anonymous

    These voices: Bachmann, Palin, Gingrich, Santorum, and Huckabee. Source: Detroit Free Press.

  • Monty Pyth0n

    The comments that get posted just go to show how everyone views whatever the news is through thier on lens of ideology. Chris Christie appointed an American to the bench to be judge. A judged that previosly defended Americans who were wrongly detained and arrested based on their religous background. At no point has this judge claimed he would rule based on Sharia Law.

    The funniest thing about this, you folks on the left should be celebrating this. Instead your hatred for the right just bleeds through. Christie does something that many left wing governors would do and you still slam him and bring out the fat jokes.

    To those on the right (which I am) – Chrisie is a no nonsense conservative, not an evangelical. He appointed an AMERICAN, someone who loves this country and will defend it. We are better than this to throw a solid conservative who beleives in small government and indivdual freedom, under our collective bus just because of a kneejerk reaction to an appointment of a Muslim-AMERCIAN. He didn’t just appoint Bin Landen’s brother.

    The fact that a reporter would ask about Sharia Law (when the judge has never stated that he would rule based on it) just shows that it was not a real question, but an attempt to get a politician in a gotcha soundbite that would just get repeated 10,000 times on MSNBC.

    Kudos to Chris Christie for slamming down the premise of that assinine question.

  • Anonymous

    yeah. I saw that Fox talking point. you memorized it well.

  • Anonymous

    Now questioning his sanity? I thought he was the GOP’s best hope of winning in 12.

  • Valkyrie71010

    Nice job, governor, your stock just went up.

  • Anonymous

    you had a republican candidate for president speak about sharia law ridiculously  during the last debate..and NOT one of the other candidates on stage slapped that idiot down.. that’s why the reporter asked the question.. not as a gotcha moment but as a moment for him to show rational free intelligent thinking..and it was a obvious question given some of his fellow republican party members statements on muslims and sharia law and mosques and so on.. i may not agree with everything or most things with christie but i obviously agree with this….  every single candidate for the republican nomination stayed silent when cain talked that trash last debate.. good luck with those clowns..one of them should have cut him off and told him in front of a large voting block of your party what a hobbit he was but nope nothing silence .. thats who the repubs are running out there…

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    My apologies. I didn’t take you for the sort to use British English. I commend you for that.

  • Sean68

    In the future, even words that rhyme with the n-word will be banned.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I’m sorry. I may be confused. Are we talking about Sarah Palin?

  • Anonymous

    As long as I never have to deal with or ever hear about this judge again then let New Jersey do what New Jersey wants to do.  I only ask that they not let him fly his own plane.

    Left wing idiots chiming in in 3, 2, 1…

  • Anonymous

     we all know what you do.  Keep up the good work.

  • Anonymous

    Good for you, Chris Christie. Most conservatives probably feel the same but would never say anything like that. He basically just called out a bunch of people in his whole party for being ignorant racists. how refreshing

  • Anonymous

    to – an

    too – a

    When you are attempting to appear educated and the basics leave you, you’re in trouble. lol
    …and when referring to others as being dumb and making really dumb mistakes, well….

  • Anonymous

    in others words your logic is that it’s always been that way so why worry?
    You think Islam wasn’t doing any killing during the Crusades etc? lol

    A feeble attempt at best.

  • Valkyrie71010

    I heard that Gaffney suggests that christie has been infiltrated by the Islamic brotherhood.

  • Anonymous

    I just paid $ 23.86 for an iPhone and my girlfriend loves her Dell laptop that we got for $ 38.76 there arriving tomorrow by UPS I will never pay such expensive retail prices in stores again. Especially when I also sold a 42 inch LED TV to my boss for $ 665 which only cost me $ 62,81 to buy. Here is the website we use to get it all from, GrabPenny.com

  • http://profiles.google.com/jsgiunta Jim Giunta

    Lets call a spade a spade. If you are a practicing Muslim, and you follow the teachings of Mohammad, then not only are you susceptable to becoming radicalized, you also are, at the least, symathetic to the concept of Sharia Law.

  • Anonymous

    id much rather call a dumbass a dumbass………….dumbass

  • http://profiles.google.com/jsgiunta Jim Giunta

    Yeah, I’m sure people in the UK said the same thing 20 years ago…

  • Anonymous

    Good for you Govenor. I wonder if Fox will have one of their propagandists will cover this?

  • Anonymous

    oh i do follow the teaching of muhammad…hook and jab…stick and move…rope a dope… shuffle… punish em for 14 then knock they ass out in the 15th

  • http://profiles.google.com/jsgiunta Jim Giunta

    So he says nothing to support terrorism. What does he say against it?

  • http://profiles.google.com/jsgiunta Jim Giunta

    Yeah, and progressive liberals in the White House have done so well improving our economy and world standing.

  • Anonymous

    Why is that sad? We’re forever in court trying to run Christianity out of the public square. What’s the problem with doing the same with Islam? Is Islam better than Christianity?

  • http://profiles.google.com/jsgiunta Jim Giunta

    First, learn how to speak english…dumbass. Then, have something to argue about or don’t waste my time..

  • Anonymous

    Just because in the last 20-30 years, there’s been a sudden wave of Islamic terrorism, you can’t just say, “It’s a death cult.”

    You can look at Hamas’ rule of Gaza and call it a death cult.

  • Anonymous

    a good fathand smack from chris christie snapped you hobbits back into reality, at least until mediaite removes this article….tomorrow you’ll be headed back to murfreesboro or to Park 51  to rejoin your righteous brethern in protest of muslims americans having a right to worship as they please or where they please…you dont fool me hobbit…i dont trust a stinking  republican unless he shackled hand and foot with an apple stuffed in his mouth….a repuke will lie while standing on a 10′ stack of bibles…the 11th Commandment  in the wingnut bible says “thou shall ignore the first 10 commandments stated here”

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, remember how Obama and Hillary were all peace, lovce and understanding? And how they never attacked each other at all? Damn, you have a short memory.

    Bros Before Hos. Classic.

  • Anonymous

    What time does your bus come?

  • realheadline

    I think Pro Obama Agenda is looking in the mirror Jim. Pro fights haven’t gone 15 rounds since the 80′s. Just like a Lib, he lives in fantasy land.

  • Tedderman

    Though he more closely resembles a “Hippo.”

  • Tedderman

    Already done and you’re welcome.

  • http://profiles.google.com/jsgiunta Jim Giunta

    Just more proof he’s an ignoramus…

  • realheadline

    Whaaaaat? ……”He basically just called out a bunch of people in his whole party for being racist” Listen up Buggs: Your reading comprehension needs work. Please site the ‘bunch’ of people in his ‘whole’ party. Please don’t be a patsy for Mediates subtrerfuge.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: What do you expect in NJ perfection? Not a chance too many Yankees puffs.

  • Anonymous

    “knock they ass out”

    Boy, you need to knock out your English teacher before any of us. 

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Thanks for the children’s perspective!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Why take jabs at the gay demarodent tea bagging society that make up at least 10% of your voting block is beyond me.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Lies from the delusion malfunctioning lib!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: The Gay demarodent tea bagging progressives cult hate Muslims and themselves? That’s a twist!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Glad to see you and the ones that like what you posted understand how crappy unions are in the teaching field!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Extremist gay demarodents tea baggers don’t control Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    how about you suck my balls?

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Compared to you? They are clean varmints.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: tea baggers are gays that like nut sacks in their mouths and that makes them demarodents! the names you have are patriots here at Mediaite! You are a tea bagger yourself in my mind! I’m right on that aren’t I happy pants?

  • Dflojak

    Well, as the old saying goes, he may be fat, but he can always lose weight. Obama on the other hand is stupid, incapable and has become the poster boy for the peter principle, and he ain’t gonna lose that. move over jimma catta, you’re about to give up the only record you ever held, worst president in the history of the world.

  • Dflojak

    no, that makes them democrats.

  • Dflojak

    What’s pretty f##ed up here is that for a change, i think both right and left kind of agree with the fact Christie did the right thing with the appointment and his comments. Sad we can never look past the nasty rhetoric from both sides and say, yeah, this was good.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    Amen!

  • Greg
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    No, I’m applauding Christie for this, not deriding him.  I don’t like the man’s style, tone, or politics but I don’t think his views are skewed by religious hatred or ideology.  In this one instance I can agree with him completely.  I’m a Democrat and I live in NJ so this issue resonates with me.  However if you want to see hatred and mindless insults “bleeding through” the comments here, I suggest you look at most of the right wing responses.  (and yes, the lefties do it too but I see it less from them and no I don’t like it)

  • ImNotBlue

    As I recall, it was pretty obvious what you were trying to say in that quote… and being anti-Jew is nothing new for the group you belong to.

    Of course that doesn’t really explain or defend Pub’s comment… so, you know, whatever.

  • ImNotBlue

    Which talking point would that be?

    Isn’t this new meme fun?  If anyone brings up a point someone on the left can’t argue, the response becomes, “I saw that talking point.”  It’s a way of excusing themselves from the discussion, without having to provide any real reason, evidence, defense, or facts of any kind.  I wonder if it will work.

  • ImNotBlue

    Where did I say that?

  • ImNotBlue

    @B_F_D:disqus

    The article you linked to was that same group.  There is apparently ONE group they’ve been quoting.  One.

  • ImNotBlue

    So the comments section on websites are now proof of… anything?

    Come on.  Look around this place, and we can “prove” pretty much anything.

  • ImNotBlue

    Nope.  Your mind is just perpetually stuck on her.

    Strange.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000841936241 Matt Seegz

    I guess this means Chris Christie is a LIIIIIIBERAL, according to the rest of the right wing. Better get used to it, Christie, because I can just hear the news headlines coming out of Fox News now…

    “The liberal socialist maoist traitor Chris Christie held a press conference today, condemning America the Beautiful and swearing his allegiance to Islamic terrorists everywhere…”

  • ImNotBlue

    The questioner had decided that there were “complaints” and asked the questions.  It could have been 1 complaint, it could have been 1000… all we have (from this story) is a question from a reporter, and Christie’s response to that reporter.

    He never addressed the specific accusers, only the reporter.  So you’ve made a conclusion based on no evidence.  I tried to give you an out to realize that, but you missed it.  Oh well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000841936241 Matt Seegz

    “THE GAY DEMARODENT TEA BAGGING PROGRESSIVES CULT”

    You’re not crazy, it’s THE WORLD that’s crazy!

    Hahaha, wow. You can’t make shit like this up.

  • Anonymous

    Stop being coy and evasive. Don’t simply Post web-sites as if such will suffice to make your point. What is it you find provocative or objectionable?
    What you are attempting to do, is use an argumentation/debate tactic that forces ME to show my hand, so to speak. In my world is an act of cowardice, you posted the site now tell the reader your position.
    NO, it doesn’t speak for itself.

    Purveyor

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000841936241 Matt Seegz

    In the sense you’re using it, it’s “delusional.”

    Guess y’all musta done skipped that thar book-learnin’, eh, Jebediah?

  • ImNotBlue

    Meh.  All religions have started out with some sort of subjugation of women.  They eventually evolve something else… except for those who follow the letter of the law to a T.

    There are plenty of “moderate” Muslims who don’t follow that part of the religion.  Now, unlike many other religions, there do seem to be a lot more of the staunch followers of Islam, than of others.  But with time, I would suspect that will change too.

    To call that religion a “death cult,” is needlessly insulting.

  • Republicans are Liars

    You are truly a traitor to this country. One of the most un-American individuals I have ever had the misfortune of seeing on a blog.

  • ImNotBlue

    Not always… but often enough.

    Religion plays equally on people’s hopes and people’s fears.  Someone who uses religion as a source of hope, positive motivation, and comfort in tough times, will not attack someone else for not believing what they do.  It’s the people who use fear, and a threat of punishment that are more easily manipulated.

  • ImNotBlue

    I think we can separate Hamas from Islam as a whole, can’t we?  I don’t think that’s unreasonable.

  • ImNotBlue

    And if anyone is going to know what a moderate or fringe Republican thinks… it’s someone like Nacho.  A person who uses insults as arguments, and stands safely on the far far left.  Yup, that’s the person who’s most qualified to talk about the right.

    *rolls eyes*

  • ImNotBlue

    I’ll give you a head start.  You put up a post that has decent punctuation, doesn’t insult anyone who might possibly disagree with you, has a few facts, and doesn’t threaten violence or ooze with insanity and hate, and then we can play.

    Until then… I think I’ll just keep “flagging” your comments, and hoping you go away for good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000841936241 Matt Seegz

    I hope you’d welcome same-sex marriage with open arms after a statement like that.

  • Anonymous

    On the contrary.  I deliberately used and accentuated the word “CONCLUDE” as opposed to an opinion.

    “Conclude,” denotes deliberation, based on history and evidence available to consider.  There is ample evidence to support my “conclusion.”  There ample evidence for the Governor to have NOT made that selection.

    This is a perfect example of why I find discourse with you and other Socialists irritating, as you typically proffer “opinions, rather than “conclusions.”

    How about a nice game of chess?

  • Anonymous

    I could use that line in a variety of contexts.  Well done!

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    What is “demarodent?”  Not in my dictionary…

  • Greg
  • Anonymous

    I conclude, the evidence indicates that Islam is an equal opportunity, Religious ideology.  No matter what region one travels too, Islam is there, killing and maiming infidels and those who happen to be in the blast zone.

    Or can you provide evidence to prove otherwise?

    Purveyor

  • lfinsc

    Yet another Republican who has had enough of the lunatic fringe and is coming to his senses. He just called members of his own party crazies and ignorant and he hit the nail on the head. Way to go Chris Christie and I don’t care how much you weigh. 

  • Anonymous

    How in the world do you know the reporter “decided there were complaints?” You have no knowledge of what that reporter knows or doesn’t know, whether they know about 1 complaint, a 1,000, or none. Just because YOU don’t know about them doesn’t mean they don’t exist, and if you listen to Christie’s response it seems pretty clear he has heard complaints, he referred to complaints about Mohammed defending 9/11 suspects, that wasn’t in the question, just in Christie’s reply. You say I jumped to conclusions, but you’ve declared yourself a mind reader. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    It’s kinda ironic that those who are applauding his courage here a couple of days ago would have characterized him as a terrorist of the worst sort… but I agree with you, he made a principled decision and as always will make no apology to his detractors. 

  • Anonymous

    Another reason not to vote for Christie. He’s in such close proximity to NYC that the ignorance and stupidity of the NYTimes left wing propaganda machine has infected his brain.

  • shutupbitch

    hmm.  Pot and kettle come to mind.

  • Anonymous

    Good Lord!  What a disjointed and inconsistent set of Posts. (JIM GIUNTA, being the exception) 

    BRANDON, REMI and DEVIL, None of you seem to be capable of reaching a practicable conclusion.  Is Islam a positive or negative influence on the World?

    That pile of rubble in New York as well as the dead Israeli athletes in Munich, were the result of Islam, not just a handful of bad guys!

    I’ve heard the analogous argument before, in the context that the Civil War wasn’t about slavery?

    In both cases, were you eliminate one salient issue the problem would not have existed…

    “To sin by silence when they should protest, makes cowards of men”  A. Lincoln

    Purveyor

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephen.feller Stephen Feller

    I disagree with Governor Christie on all sorts of stuff, but he’s dead-on here. Are the people freaking out about Muslims overrunning the country the same ones who were worried about electing a Catholic to the White House in the 50s? Cause those people were crazy and ignorant too.

  • Anonymous

    “Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm”

                               Abraham Lincoln

    Considering the times we live in and the inflexible socio-political issues of the day, the question some of you must ask yourselves: “if I (you) am wrong, will those whom I have opposed so vehemently, offer me protection and security, when those same citizens know that I (you) would not have done so for them?”

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    http://globalmbreport.org/
    all over the “blogosphere”. The point is we’ve provided you with three different groups, this global muslim brotherhood watchdog group, the conservative group and schussel and you still won’t concede this point. Your argument is weak at best, merely one group would be enough to substantiate frances’ point but it sounds like you wouldn’t believe it if we provided five groups because you’re stuck on that one singular point of language.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmmm…..and the game begins^^^!

  • Anonymous

    A perfect example of attempting to defend the indefensible. The women of the world, particularly the Muslim women given forced circumcisions, applaud your benevolence and ‘forward’ thinking. How calming to know that things will “evolve?”
    “Needlessly insulting?” I can’t think of much that has been more needed than to view Islam for what it is… Whether cognitive dissonance or delusion, the Socialist-Liberal has a peculiar capacity to put a ‘happy face’ on things. History tells us that such is a person’s or group’s folly.
    Respectfully, I think you are smarter than this and may someday “evolve.”
    Purveyor

  • http://twitter.com/VonSyndicate Von Syndicate

     The GOP is at a crossroads. Are going to go down the Christie, Rubio  path or  the Bachmann, Palin, Hermain Cain path?

  • realheadline

    Crazy and ignorant is more aproppriatety applied to your comments. 50′s, what a scholar!

  • realheadline

    (Writing at your level, so you will understand).

  • Anonymous

    flag all you want…thats what sorry  consevatives do…cry and play the victim,…no matter to me….your real problem is I OWN YOU…you lack of intellegence i expose daily…you do what you do when have no other choices RUN TO PAPA…..i say MAN UP

  • Anonymous

    until theres a law passed that says i have to like, love or respect conservatives i’ll continue to NOT DO SO…ok hobbit…my suggestion to you is to RETREAT…move on…theres much more fertile breeding grounds for extremists over at the world nutt daily…you wanna excape me….GO THERE

  • Moosenuts99

    This thread of comments is HILARIOUS

    EXPLODED BAGGER HEADS

    AND SHOUTS OF RINO!!!!!!

    Hilarious

    You CONS are something else

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IKCYASOMKXBH2SIIV6GB7FU4A4 John

    You talk big hiding behind your computer. But we know you don’t have any nuts. Try saying that crap to me face and take a swing. I would pound you into the ground punk!

  • Anonymous

    hobbit this is the internet…i dont threaten anybody…this to me is all about a battle of ideas and opposing viewpoints….i couldnt care less about who you are, where you are or anything else about your sorry ass…maybe you wish i would issue a threat online…..it wont happen  hobbit, but heres what i will do…i will  continue to trash you everytime you say something i percieve to be stupid which to this point is everytime you post ….ok…and i do mean EVERRRRRRRRYYYYTIME

  • mikee

    Portmanteau is a fine word, but the word “mucilage” rolls off the tongue even more enjoyably.

  • Anonymous

    you got sound in here???…i didnt know you could hear me…jeeeeze …i need to upgrade to the voice version of this site

  • Johnjguy

    ‘Can’t insult religions… unless it’s Christianity.  Can’t attack  someone for believing something different… unless they’re Mormon.  Can’t criticize someone based on race… unless they’re white.’

    ….Really? So you’re arguing whites and mormons are being marginalized?

    Well, perhaps you might like to tell that to the Native American Indian in the US of A, they may choose to argue the point they got there first. 

  • Valerie

    Damn straight. Predictable as hell!

    Gov. Christie I salute you for standing up to the “crazies” as you put it -in your own party.

    Bravo and well played sir!!!!

  • http://www.liveblogtoday.com SP

    I am no fan of Christie, but for this I give him credit. Finally a republican with a spine said this Sharia Law crap is crap. Good for you Christie! 

  • Anonymous

    Nonono!!  I love neologisms!  I live for neologisms!  But to be pedantic, isn’t the plural of “portmanteau” “portmanteaux,” given that its origin is French?  Or was that the entire point of the neologism comment?

    (Need more caffeine.  Brain can’t process.) 

    On topic, I hate how Cristie vilifies teachers, but love him when he calls out BS like this. 

  • Anonymous

    The President Paul Path.

  • Gercarson

    Islam in NOT a rellgion – it is an ideology that actively promotes the killing of anyone who is an infidel – someone who is not a muslim. Every – EVERY muslim must adhere to the koran to actually BE a muslim and the koran is very clear on how to treat infidels. If the judge does not adhere to the koran he is NOT a muslim.

  • Redleaf

    Hey, everyone!
    Let’s head to FoxNation.com and hear how Christie just appointed an America-hating terrorist to the bench who’ll rule by Sharia law!
    WHO’S WITH ME?

  • Anonymous

    Christie is right.  We have the First Amendment.  That itself renders any ban of sharia law redundant. 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, you’re right, nasty words generally come from those on the Left.  Bullets and bombs come from the Right.

  • Irish189

    I don’t agree with much of what he does but I applaud the gov for having the stones to try and knock the stupid out of some of these people

    I wonder if all of these Muslim hate mongers realize that they are to the right of GWB on this issue, he repeatedly stated that the US is not at war with Islam

  • Johnjguy

    Chris Christie has treaded the unseen path of choosing to judge on qualities of ability and character rather than religion. Well, Chris take a look around…THEY’RE not going to let you get away with being so UnAmerican. 

    Buckle up THEY’RE coming for you…

  • HockeyFan

    I agree. I think it’s fairly obvious that this part of a decades-long plan for terrorists to infiltrate all levels of our government. First we have a Muslim US president. That was a huge coup. Now we have Christie appointing a terrorist judge. These aren’t just people who blow themselves up. They’ve had to live here, learn here and train here for decades in order to attain a place in this country where political and legal authority could be bestowed upon them.

    With Obama as president we’ll never know how many more America-haters are currently studying in our colleges and law schools, trying to be named to important government positions. But whatever the number, we’d better wise up or we’ll have Sharia law throughout this country. And it all started with one New Jersey governor appointing and then defending a terrorist.

  • Anonymous

    Christie goes down the proverbial tubes if he thinks Sharia Law is nonsense.  Bye-bye Chris Christie!

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Yeah, don’t believe those lying eyes

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Well, pointing out that Republicans  don’t like Muslims does not necessarily equate to there being no hate on the Left, but we’ll give you a pass, since like most Republicans, you were just pulling something out of your bum to attack someone else…..a loving, generous act

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Herman Cain applauds your bigotry, Publius

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    “you know where he stands”

    because of the gravitational pull?

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Not to belabor the obvious point that you are a tool, but Carter wasn’t even the worst President of the last 30 years!  I can name 5 worse Presidents off the top of my head than Jimmy

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    And, like clockwork, right after a conservative mentions race, the conservative also dons the Cape of Victimhood and whines about how badly we white Christian Americans have it.

    Please feel sorry for us, since all we do is run the world.  Wouldn’t be a thread with righties without one of them whining about being under siege from “everyone else,’ and then complaining someone mentioned the word race.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if Ann Coulter’s still in love with this guy.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Of course they are, John. It’s why one of them is the front runner for the Republican nomination.  because of the oppression!

  • Texan

    failure at originality, patsy.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Why does this term bother you so?  You named yourselves after all.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Uh, you did just to take us all hostage or don’t you remember last week?  Is that what it means to be a conservative now?  i mean, I realize you forgot 2001 to 2008 (especially the 1 trillion deficit that W turned in as his last assignment), but you can’t even remember last week when y’all brought us close to default because you wanted to renogiate spending you JUST authorized on 4/15/11?

    Wow

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    okay, click here and read the response under “racial attitudes”

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/04/14/us/politics/20100414-tea-party-poll-graphic.html#tab=5

    Here we find that half of Tea Partiers believe “In recent years, has too much been made of the problems facing black people?”  Half!

    Is that proof enough or do you need to receive emails from Orange County officials with Obama as a chimp?

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    This is so stupid.  How are there any Jews and Christians alive in Spain, North Africa, Greece or Italy today?  “Islam” only ruled in those place for 400 to 1000 years and yet the Christians and Jews are still around, as are the Hindus in India. 

    Don’t you have a Norwegian to follow?

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Except that after saying it, he couldn’t win a Republican primary

  • Redleaf

     I agree. Obviously, this terrorist judge will rule by Sharia law. He has to. He’s Muslim.
    Very surprised at this move by Christie. Makes you wonder about Christie’s patriotism.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Someone never heard of Herman Cain?

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    We cannot assign thoughts to you, real, since there is no appreciable brain activity

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Yeah, the one or two people like Republican Presidential candidates or Pam Gellar and Robert Spencer

  • Anonymous

    Sound logic. The newly appointed judge is an expert in New Jersey Law. That’s right. New Jersey Law is different from New York Law and that is different from New Mexico Law. Each state has its own laws about marriage, divorce, and even commercial transactions. Forty nine of our states have laws based on English Common Law, but Louisiana’s laws are based on the Napoleonic Code.

    One of the most obvious differences in the state laws is the death penalty. Michigan has never had a death penalty, while Texas imposes it more than any other state. Are the murder rates significantly different? No. But the point is that the differences can be that drastic. (By the way, I am for the death penalty so let’s not even get into that).

    If you were into studying law, you might become interested in the laws of France, and be very sympathetic to them, but you would not even think about trying to use them in a US court.

  • Anonymous

    Float like a butterfly. Sting like a bee.

  • Anonymous

    When did being “not too bright”, “out of touch” and “full of crap” have anything to do with being a patriot? When you define patriot, does that mean “hate”? Hate of anyone different than you, because you don’t know anything about them or they’re not locked into your little “sheep tea bubble” world? If you knew anything about Sharia law, it would be that any part,… any part that violates a standing US code, is,…and always will be, against the law! So any loser “dork” that thinks there is anything to this Sharia law, is a moron,… not a patriot!

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Sad, Pablo, because the chance that the Muslim living under your bed sues you in Kansas under Sharia were quintrillion to one against prior to bigoted laws and, even after their passage, are no less likely.

    We get that you are scared, though, since Christianity is being “run out of the public square.”  It’s sweet that you are trying to climb up there on the cross too, but it’s unnecessary.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Not in his world.  the Muslim hiding under his bed is a terrorist you see and it’s why he sleeps scared all night long

  • Anonymous

    Zero.

  • http://twitter.com/chp3871 chp3871

    Folks, you might have forgot this. Christie IS an attorney. He probably thinks this guy is “Just another Attorney”. In his ignorance, he is doing a Cleopatra–putting a viper to his chest. 
    Remember, a judge is nothing more than an attorney in a robe

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Remember when Bush’s people spread stories that John McCain had an illegitimate black baby?  Or, that his wife was a drug addict? 

    Wow, this game of flase equivalence is fun.  no wonder you like to play it so frequently

  • Anonymous

    Playing victim again. Look at those posts from the left. They praise Christie and attack the folks from the right who knee jerk reacted against him. Then the thread, as usual, degenerated into a hate fest.

    In this case, it is still you who play the victim because you refuse to see the posts from the left that said exactly what you said in your first paragraph. 

  • Anonymous

    Well said Gary.

  • Dflojak

    In regards to Jimma, no you can’t, but nice try.

  • Anonymous

    Neutrality and equal opportunity to be judged fairly and according to one’s own actions, not the actions of others who look like you, live in your community, and/or go to your place of worship.
    When taken to the mindless simplicity of group hate, all or your vaulted principles go out the window.

  • Moosenuts99

    BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Japan.

  • Moosenuts99

    OH NO! HE BETTER MOVE AND QUICKKK!!!!!!!

    MAYBE THEN HE CAN ESCAPE THE WORLDS LARGEST ENGLISH NEWSPAPER!!!!!!

  • Moosenuts99

    OH NO! HE BETTER MOVE AND QUICKKK!!!!!!!

    MAYBE THEN HE CAN ESCAPE THE WORLDS LARGEST ENGLISH NEWSPAPER!!!!!!

  • Moosenuts99

    BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    THE ASYLUM CALLED:

    YOURe MISSING LUNCH

  • Anonymous

    Irritating because you are blind to the weakness of your own arguments. Your high horse is stuck in the mud of prejudice.

  • moose

    You know there is an H in Rhino right?

  • Anonymous

    I could have said it better. How about this:

    The real cause for war is always greed. It may be for wealth or for power. Religion is only used as a cover for that.

  • Anonymous

    What did you just say? What does “equal opportunity” have to do with this topic? Your Post is completely incoherent. I’ve told you this before: you lack the ability to listen, to consider, to ponder new ideas.

    Rather you view any thought that is foreign to your comfort zone as a threat. (cognitive dissonance) Right now you are simply getting angry instead on considering whether or not there is some truth. Therefore, you tend to form a retort, not an inquisitive response, or a question.

    Furthermore, logic and reason go right by you. Why didn’t you question the analogy or dichotomy between the civil war/slavery and small group of muslims being representative of Islam in general? That would have been substantive and interesting, perhaps, enlightening. BUT, you did not comprehend the comparison, did you?

    Moreover, the final bastion for today’s ‘political scoundrel,’ is to call his counterpart a racist or full of hate. You sir, are the quintessence of your own accusation: “mindless simplicity.” In the future, if you don’t like what I write, then don’t respond and make a foole of yourself.

    PURVEYOR

  • Anonymous

    Wow. What are you five? seriously grow up kid. You are just making yourself look like a mindless parrot.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Buchannan, Adams, Sr, Hoover, Nixon, and Bush the Younger.  That’s off the top of my head and doesn’t even include the single worst person to ever be President (Jackson) or the massive corruption and failure of Reconstruction that was Grant.  Your fever dreams from the swamps of the right wing are entertaining, but not persuasive

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    was that a parody of the people Christie was calling ignorant?  If so, it was dead on.  Boggles my mind that people like this walk amongst us and consider themselves good citizens

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    are you so uneducated that you did not know that John Kennedy had to give speeches so people like you wouldn’t think his would follow orders from Rome? 

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    move to texas.  hardly anyone can ready there and you are safe from leftists

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    You apparently didn’t read far enough

  • Anonymous

    smack smack smack…..whewwwwwwwww christie put on his big boy boots and stomped all over you hobbits

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    So, there shouldn’t be Jewish judges, coz they might follow the Torah?  For heaven’s sake, we need to eliminate all the Catholics on the Supreme Court, since TO THIS DAY the Church operates ecclesiastical courts.  And, Heaven forbid, we bring any of these fundamentalist Christians around, ’cause they will ban alcohol and dancing!

    Jim, I’ll start you with Wikipedia and you can work from there:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_court

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    yeah, ’cause your pampant bigotry above is proof you are really, really smart

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Herman Cain, Pam Gellar, Donald Feith, Tim Pawlenty, Michelle Bachman, Peter King, Sean hannity, Limabaugh, Erick Erickson….how many more do you need?

  • Anonymous

    Wrong AGAIN! Japan has approx. 170,000 indigenous and non-indigenous adherents. Making Muslims in Japan an Extreme minority of less than 1%. Moreover, Japan prides itself on homogeneity and does not tolerate nonsense and fooles as we tend too.
    Note: I added this reply to my Post above yours on the scroll, by way of “edit.” That way others can see your continous attempts at coherence.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    To be fair, Gaffney doesn’t believe any of that stuff; he just makes money on it because he’s a whore to bigots

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Maybe the Muslims should have said int he 1700′s when the Brits conquered them and kept them as colonists?

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    The dead athletes in Munich are due to politics, tool.

    Islam by promoting its Five Pillars is as much a force of good as any of the world’s major superstitions.  We should get of all of them and give people like you less reason to hate his fellow humans

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Chechnya, where the Russians kill them with impunity.  Afghanistan, where we drop bombs on people who never asked for us to be there.  India where Muslims and Hindue have lived side by side for over 1000 years with varying degrees of success. 

    Better yet, show me a place on the map where Christians haven’t been killing people since the 1500′s? 

    Africa? check
    China?  Boxer Rebellion. check
    South Asia?  Colonialism and its wars. check
    Europe? killed 200 million in the last century
    America?  destroyed the entirety of several unique Native cultures
    Australia?  ask aborigines

    So, maybe you should be playing defense in this supposition?

  • Grandma

    I love how Christie calls out BS like this but I also love how he vilifies teachers, as he is right, and they deserve it.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    This applies to the Christie thing how?

  • http://profiles.google.com/timburns116 Tim Burns

    Forced circumcisions aren’t part of Islam, bigot.  It’s a tribal practice by some Africans, who happen to be Muslim.  Turks and Arabs and millions of other Muslims are as appalled by that as you are.  Of course, they would be more appalled at your rampant bigotry directed toward a million people, but they would still know you’re wrong

  • Anonymous

    Those who believe the myth that “Islam is a religion of peace” are sadly and badly mistaken.  If the moderate Muslims were in control of Islam, then it would not be a myth.  However, the extremist, fundamentalist, Islamists have hijacked Islam and have changed the characteristic that Islam is a religion of peace to a religion that will kill off The Great Satan, dominate the world with a one-religion world, implement Sharia Law in place of Constitutional law, and do away with all other religions.

    Where are the progressives who work hard to separate the Christian religion from our government, yet they say nothing about separating the Islamic religion from our government?  What they do not realize is that the Islamic religion, Sharia Law, and government are all inseparably intertwined–and never will they be separated.  That concept flies in the face of our Constitution.  Therefore, another of their goals is to eliminate or redefine the Constitution, which is exactly what the progressives are attempting to do.

  • Redleaf

    I mentioned this earlier, but I think it’s fairly obvious that this part of a decades-long
    plan for terrorists to infiltrate all levels of our government. First
    we have a Muslim US president. That was a huge coup. Now we have
    Christie appointing a terrorist judge. These aren’t just people who
    blow themselves up. They’ve had to live here, learn here and train here
    for decades in order to attain a place in this country where political
    and legal authority could be bestowed upon them.

    With Obama as
    president we’ll never know how many more America-haters are currently
    studying in our colleges and law schools, trying to be named to
    important government positions. But whatever the number, we’d better
    wise up or we’ll have Sharia law throughout this country. And it all
    started with one New Jersey governor appointing and then defending a
    terrorist.

  • Anonymous

    I repeat: “the last ‘redoubt,’ (being a military man, you do know what a ‘redoubt’ is) is to call ones counterpart a racist, NAZI, fascist, or prejudiced and on and on…” I know how erudite and compelling my intellect and arguments are. The only way to hurt me is to defeat me?
    By the way, whatever happened to your chum Cosmos? He was always following you around.

  • Anonymous

    I agree “the dead athletes in Munich are due are due to politics.” Islamic Politics conjoined to the Religion. Or are you attempting to make the silly argument that the Israeli athletes and the victims at the twin towers, were the fault of the victims themselves, or, the wests evil treatment of Islam over the last century? LOL
    Furthermore, your condescension is unfounded, as I am not sure I would even let you mow my lawn much less tell me that I hate someone or something. If I hate anything, be assured such is not arbitrary. I can give reasoned and viable reasons for thwarting my enemies designs.
    That is the difference between myself, my compatriots and the Socialist Liberals. I recognize a threat and will stand and fight. The Socialist will either change sides or stab me in the back. Hence, I am vigilant!
    PURVEYOR

  • Anonymous

    Every example you give is non sequitur, and you know it. Don’t pull that puerile nonsense with me. Anyone of the examples in the list is an interesting subject, some of which I well schooled in. Never the less, they are an “inference, not based on the premise.”
    Note: I did a paper years ago in Pre-Law, on the debate at Valladolid Spain between De Las Casas and Sepulveda as whether or not the South American Indians were human? Much Western Law is based on Catholic Church Law. Incidentally. the Indians lost! Las Casas tried his best, but church greed prevailed.

  • Anonymous

    As I have said before, use of words such as racist, bigot, hater etc, are the last bastion of the effete or moribund. You lack the education or wisdom to engage me in this subject. “Forced circumcisions aren’t part of Islam?” There are Egyptian women who would disagree. Moreover, I suppose you find the Burka or Chador to be non-opressive? LOL
    And I haven’t called you name. My argument works just fine.

  • Anonymous

    Actually numbnuts, The Times of India has the most circulation for an English language newspaper.

  • Anonymous

    The GOP did act like terrorists. Just look up the definition of the word:
    “the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.”

  • Moosenuts99

    I stand corrected. Maybe Christie CAN escape the NYTimes just by moving!!!

  • Anonymous

    This may be the first time I’ve ever agreed with anything Chris Christie has said, and BOY do I ever agree with him here! I think 2012 is the year of the crazy D-listers for the GOP but 2016 is going to bring out the more serious establishment candidates like Pence, Christie, Jeb Bush, etc. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Christie or Bush get the nod in 2016. The GOP has had enough of the Teanderthals. They served a purpose (2010 mid-terms) and now they’re proving to be a problem. I don’t expect the GOP Primaries in 2012 to include as many Teanderthals. The GOP will tell them to run as Libertarians or a 3rd party, knowing they prevent them from success in the all important General Election. Sure they might win a GOP Primary, but they are like sunlight to a vampire for 75% of sane Americans.

  • Anonymous

    This may be the first time I’ve ever agreed with anything Chris Christie has said, and BOY do I ever agree with him here! I think 2012 is the year of the crazy D-listers for the GOP but 2016 is going to bring out the more serious establishment candidates like Pence, Christie, Jeb Bush, etc. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Christie or Bush get the nod in 2016. The GOP has had enough of the Teanderthals. They served a purpose (2010 mid-terms) and now they’re proving to be a problem. I don’t expect the GOP Primaries in 2012 to include as many Teanderthals. The GOP will tell them to run as Libertarians or a 3rd party, knowing they prevent them from success in the all important General Election. Sure they might win a GOP Primary, but they are like sunlight to a vampire for 75% of sane Americans.

  • Anonymous

    Um…what do you mean?  Which party is running their campaigns based on hating gay people again?  Oh yeah, the GOP.

  • gordonbloyershow

    The only bigots here are you libs that hide behind the phony names to attack honest people.

  • Anonymous

    Two high-level policymaking executive Muslims (the press call them devout Muslims) hold key positions in the Department of Homeland Security.  They are protecting our country!

    During World War II, do you think the FDR administration placed loyal Americans of Japanese Ancestry (AJAs) in high-level positions in the government?  Heck no!  In fact, he placed all of my ancestors in concentration camps!

    Do the Muslims in America think they are being picked on? How about it if they were thrown in the concentration camps that Obama is building on military bases throughout the United States?

    However, these concentration camps are not being built for questionably loyal Muslims in America.  They are being built for loyal Americans on the right side of the political spectrum.  I know exactly what Obama and his Chicago henchmen are doing to our beloved United States of America.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely stunning,

    I just finished an intense discussion with TIM BURNS, DEVILS SPAWN and IM NOT BLUE.  The lack of factual knowledge, probably due too their choice of news sources is amazing. (BAD)  

    The topic ended up on How wonderful Islam really is?  Female circumcision, which BURNS claimed was only a minor practice, in part of Africa?

    Also, The world wide sweep of Islamic terrorism. The claim was made that Japan didn’t have muslim terrorism therefore everything is OK?

    We didn’t even get to “honor killing,” which is definitely here, in America.

    My point:  Somehow, somewhere Socialist-Liberals are being convinced by omission, or, pro-actively by way of incredible falsehoods.  I don’t say “lies” because I don’t believe these “useful idiots” know any better.
    They read and listen too awful charlatans who are motivated by what, I know not. Hence, they repeat only what they have been led to believe.  Propaganda?
     
    Ever stranger is, when my discourse/argument causes them “cognitive dissonance,” they call me names?

    PURVEYOR

  • Anonymous

    “Adnega Amabo Orp”  all over my shoes, after I drank to much…

  • Anonymous

    Tragically, FDR did surround himself with Communists.  ”Tail Gunner” Joe McCarthy was right!

    Anyway, thanks to that kind of lax thinking, Klaus Fuchs and company got the secret to the Atomic Bomb to the Soviets.

    But the Liberals called the Conservatives a bunch of paranoid worry warts then too.

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Tragically, FDR did surround himself with Communists.  ”Tail Gunner” Joe McCarthy was right!

    Anyway, thanks to that kind of lax thinking, Klaus Fuchs and company got the secret to the Atomic Bomb to the Soviets.

    But the Liberals called the Conservatives a bunch of paranoid worry warts then too.

    Purveyor

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    and no  one needs to be vilified more than teachers right?!  Damn those teachers and all their……teaching!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    and no  one needs to be vilified more than teachers right?!  Damn those teachers and all their……teaching!

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    Your either for freedoms granted you by the Constitution or your against America. His Religious background has nothing to do with his appointment as an American for American law. Anyone appointed that does reflect their religious background in judgement, should not be in the office to begin with. beit Buddhism, jewish, christian, muslim or atheism. You tell’em Christie!!

  • Anonymous

    hobbit *snicker*

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t read beyond the first word “your” which should be “you’re” as in ‘you are’.

    Teabaggers are as illiterate as they are ignorant on political issues.

    ……now run and get your gun and sit in the corner and cry….

  • Anonymous

    wow another illiterate, in this case not knowing when to use “too” and “to” on more than one occasion in this driveling incoherent post.

    ….god I love the intellectual stimulation one can acquire from visiting the comment section of this site!

  • Anonymous

    wow. Your parents must hate you. Unless they raised you to be a rambunctious little sheep. What does saying the word hobbit again have to do with my post other than proving my assertions about your right?

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    thank you for grammer corrections.. obviously, your such a bright guy or gal and never make a mistake…. democrat? well, if so I know one mistake..

    Have you used your phone camera lately? Just wondering..thanks for NOT reading further.. you would not have understood anyways..

  • Anonymous

    The 80% voting bloc which keeps voting for the Dems, are either high school dropouts, illiterate, and/or seldom employed. Which one are you? LOL.

  • Anonymous

    I hope for Christie’s sake that this judge is thoroughly vetted and actually won’t be consulting Sharia Law.

  • Redleaf

    I doubt it. This judge can read law books in chambers all he wants.
    But it’s just for show.
    When he gets home, I bet he’ll be checking Sharia law and writing his decisions based on its violent teachings.

  • Anonymous

    I do not support Islam in any way, shape, or form. I think the worst thing that was done to Islam by Islam was done in the 1500s, when it was decided that perfection had been reached, and no changes could follow. This would be the same if Christianity had frozen its culture when stoning and other archaic punishments were the norm, God wanted the Israelites to commit genocide, etc. Even as recently as the Middle Ages, Christians killed other Christians over whether or not there was only one God or a Trinity. (Belief in the Trinity = polytheism?) Shias and Shi’ites are likely to do the same today, over who the true successor to Mohammad is.  In short, there is no aspect of Islamic cruelty that is unique to it.

    My disagreement with you is that you focus on your view of what Islam
    is, while we who are disagreeing with you are trying to point out that
    Individual and group actions are the problem to be dealt with. Plus, you attribute some archaic barbarities with Islam, when in fact, they have deeper roots in the cultures that first embraced Islam, then forced Islam and their culture on others.

    For example, female circumcision (AKA Female Genital Mutilation) is not practiced by all Muslims. It is practiced by some Muslims, and it is practiced by some African tribes who are not Muslim.

    FGM does predate Islam, but most Muslims do not practice
    this. FGM was also practice by Falasha (Ethiopian Jews). The
    remaining FGM society’s follow traditional Animist religions. http://www.members.tripod.com/~Wolvesdreams/FGM.html

     

    In fact, the most extreme forms of barbarity towards women are based on the Wahhabi culture of Saudi Arabia.

    Too many critics of Islam, including atheists, fail to appreciate just
    how diverse and varied Islam can be. There are things you can say that
    apply to all or most Muslims, as is the case with Christianity, but
    there are many more things which only apply to some or a few Muslims.
    This is especially true when it comes to Muslim extremism because
    Wahhabi Islam, the primary religious movement behind extremist Islam,
    includes beliefs and doctrines not found elsewhere.http://atheism.about.com/od/islamicsects/a/wahhabi.htm

    Osama Bin Laden was from that sect. Wahhabis are even ridiculed in Iraq! (That is one place I know it to be true, but I am sure it is much wider than that.) In short, some Muslims hate other Muslims as much as you hate all Muslims.

    As for Japan, I recall a broad statement from you that no place was safe from Islamic terror. Here it is

    No matter what region one travels too, Islam is there, killing and
    maiming infidels and those who happen to be in the blast zone

    so I gave the first example I could think of. It only took an instant, and That is certainly not proof that everything is OK.

    You fail to recognize when you have gone into  hyperbole, then when caught, claim the refutation doesn’t count. You are way too fast to accuse and way too slow to accept that you might be wrong, even a little bit.

    You make it personal, you get personal back at you.

  • Anonymous

    What did I name myself?

  • Anonymous

    If misspelling a word, or two, makes one “illiterate,” then what does confusing a well written assessment of the present state of Socialist-Liberal intellect, information gathering, history and current events, with a “driveling incoherent post?”

    Or, was your Post simply a diversion from your incapacity to deal with the subject matter of the initial (my) Post?

    “Gone Red”  I suppose you have the regulation Che Guevara T-shirt and Mao, Red Star Cap, in your wardrobe?  How sophisticated, your parents must be so proud?

    PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

  • Anonymous

    Touche’ well done, my compliments

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, thats what I like about Muslims, their innate ability to distance themselves and remain objective, despite their religious proclivities.  Very admirable indeed.

    Also, Muslims are particularly sensitive to the principles of the United States Constitution and will castigate anyone or group, who they perceive as violating the spirit of the Constitution.

    Muslims make great citizens!Purveyor

  • Theloneiguana

    Kind of like what you just did?

  • Anonymous

    Nice try LOL. I don’t know which is worse, the terrorist, or those that coddle and rationalize their existence? If you ever had a security clearance, I do not believe you have one now. How about a nice game of Chess?

  • timburns116

    I’m an atheist who thinks all your superstitions are equal in violence.  The fact that you do not know the history of Islam is not my fault.  Try doing some reading of something other than Pam Gellar and maybe you won’t get so incensed when you misrepresent the religion of a billion people.

    BTW, I contacted the Incan state to talk to their ambassador about the Christian genocide committed against them in the 1500′s, but they were unavailable for comment.

    None of the stupid religions people practice is any better than any other.  It’s why a Christian denouncing Islam is hysterical

  • timburns116

    By the way, the World Health Organization thinks you are a moron

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/

  • Anonymous

    I was sitting at a stop light yesterday. A carload of scowling Muslims was stopped next to me waiting for the light to change.

    The light changed, and the Muslims’ started off ahead of me.

    Suddenly an 18 wheeler came along and ran directly over the Muslims’ car, crushing it completely.

    I thought to myself, “Damn, that coulda been me!”

    So today I went down to the DMV to get a CDL (Commercial) License.

  • timburns116

    Sir, I submit you don’t know the first thing about Islam.  You have never read anything, I bet, not written by some weird Gaffney-esque polemicist. 

  • timburns116

    this is clearly a parody, since no one is really stupid enough to compare World War 2 with….whatever you think this is.  No one is really stupid to compare an incident the US government apologized for and paid damages for to good policy.  And, surely no one believes that an American lawyer is some sort of double agent.  WTF does citizenship mean to you people?  The only people who can be citizens are white Christians or is it just Christians?  How about Buddhists? Jews?  Zoroastrians?  What religion meets your exacting standards?

  • timburns116

    or yours

  • timburns116

    I bet the Times of India has Muslim readers, so it doesn’t count

  • timburns116

    ” Hence, I am vigilant”

    Too bad you are not intelligent

  • Anonymous

    “Even stranger is, when my discourse/argument causes them ‘cognitive dissonance,’ they call me names?”  LOL

    Apparently, YOU are suffering “cognitive dissonance.”  Meaning:  Sincerely held beliefs are being threatened.

    By the way, if you don’t believe that female circumcision is being practiced, much more broadly than once thought, maybe you could holler about those “Honor Killings” which don’t exist either?  Ouch!

    Which is worse, the terrorist, or those that harbor the terrorist?

    By the way, you misspelled circumcision.

    PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

  • SoCalGuy

    Those nonce words are even worse…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Uda/1044488632 Bob Uda

    Thanks, genius.

  • Anonymous

    No victim here. If you read the post I spoke to both left and right. Obviously I don’t put all the left or right in there. I was speaking to the majority posts at that point. If you are a free thinker, more power to you and I respect that regardless if I agree with you or not. I just pointed that the majority of posts just kept with their marching orders of hating whatever their political enemy says or does.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    You sound like someone that will be rallying behind the Constitution that makes them Free, but only when it works in their favor… sorry, it don’t work that way.. hopefully, never will.

  • Anonymous

    I am not sure of your meaning. However, my Post was complete sarcasm, if that makes any difference.

  • Anonymous

    Would your post be….’Research’ or ‘Opinion’??

  • Anonymous

    Your debating skills are unequalled. LOL I bet you are a great and gifted chess player, also?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jj-Wisniewski/100002654075475 Jj Wisniewski

    I’ve always supported Christie for president, but what he said about his muslim appointed judge and calling out the extreme crazies for their fake obsession about Sharia law taking over the country, just lost him any possibility of winning the republican primary in 2012 if he was to run. The crazies as he called them, would after courting him to run, would never support him in a primary run. The man has always stood on principle and common sense rather than pandering to the right wing extremists. Kudos, Governor!.

  • Anonymous

    You too are a skilled debater. LOL When in doubt, call someone a “moron.” Does your wife or girlfriend know about your attitude on women? Ouch!

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t about equivalence, you dumb shit. I’m simply pointing out that primaries get rough and tumble and then the party tends to hold hands and sing Kumbayah after the conventions. So the fact that Republicans are duking it out at this point isn’t the least bit unusual. It’s just how it works.

  • Anonymous

    Timmah! is one of the internet’s premier dipshits.

  • Anonymous

    I read the site, whats your point? Even the WHO supports the fact the female circumcision is broader than once thought. Just Google[ "Female Circumcision, Egypt" ] Plenty of supporting evidence. Also, there is a distinct possibility that such is taking place here in the US. There are cloistered Muslim communities that allow no one entrance.
    “Thou dost protest to much, me thinks” You’ve got a dog in this hunt, so to speak?

  • Anonymous

    OH! the stark reality!

  • Anonymous

    So we’ll count you as a no for voting for Christie.

  • Anonymous

    Had the highest security clearance possible. As I keep telling you, you have to know your enemy, not just hate him and start shooting at everybody who looks like him.

    This is not chess, where all of your enemies are black or white and you are the other color on the board. Stop being an amateur in military or intelligence matters.

  • Anonymous

    “Had” a security clearance. Hmm ? “As I keep telling you” Pal, you haven’t told me shitt! Don’t flatter yourself.

  • Nature Freak
  • Nature Freak

    You should see the work they do at NASA. It’s outta this world….

    Recently I’ve been getting this explosive desire to visit an air raid shelter….

    You know what? This fly is really starting to bug me….
    At first this boner was inconvenient but then it started to grow on me….

    Thank you, thank you. I’m here ’till Thursday. Try the veal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Christie, and you, are morons…you don’t really believe that Muslims love Freedom of Speech, Religion, and America, do you?  If so, you need to go to rehab, and take that fat fool with you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Spoken like a true Moron….

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…match IQ, Degrees, Pay Checks, and Guns with you anytime Akbar…

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    Hmmmm christian I assume? Go read your book and pray…then remember, it don’t matter what anyone thinks..it’s their right not to have it looked into for an office. We do not claim any religion in our laws. The constitution protects the minority, not the Majority.

  • Ganymede

    By all accounts Christie is a bullying, opportunist politician, but, unlike virtually all mainstream Republicans, he lives in the real world. As the former US Attorney General for New Jersey he is intelligent and was relatively uncorrupted by the Bush regime who appointed him as the AG. He ran for Governor as a Republican in the same fashion that Bloomberg ran for NYC Mayor, because he wanted the job and knew he could never crack the Democrat Party. It may sound off the wall, but he is capable of switching to the Democratic Party at some point and running for President. He could get away with this in New Jersey where both the Republican Party and Tea Party are relatively weak.He only got into office in 2010 because of the irrational anger directed at most incumbents, including his predecessor, Gov.Corzine. I’m sure that many people who voted for the Tea Party type Republicans are having voters remorse for letting these fools come in and try to wreck the government. He’ll never get anywhere in the national Republican Party and he knows it. An interesting guy even though Ann Coulter likes him. From all accounts she’s a complete phony who doesn’t believe half the stuff she says.

  • Anonymous

    Most Muslims are really swell. It’s only a few bad ones that kill and maim infidels. I’m not worried about letting oodles of them into our country. Golly gee, I wish I one for a neighbor, we could celebrate diversity together!

  • Anonymous

    JEEZ!  I have been here all day surrounded by people either in denial, or simply ignorant of that awful religion.

    Islam is 600 years younger than Christianity and both religions have gone through, um, shall we say, growing pains?  However, Islam’s bloodiest zenith seems to be now with all the attendant advantages and disadvantages of modernity, including weapons of mass destruction!

    Thank God its only a few bad guys as most Muslims are really swell.  Ouch!

    Thanks,  Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    JEEZ!  I have been here all day surrounded by people either in denial, or simply ignorant of that awful religion.

    Islam is 600 years younger than Christianity and both religions have gone through, um, shall we say, growing pains?  However, Islam’s bloodiest zenith seems to be now with all the attendant advantages and disadvantages of modernity, including weapons of mass destruction!

    Thank God its only a few bad guys as most Muslims are really swell.  Ouch!

    Thanks,  Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    “The Constitution is NOT a suicide pact”   A. Lincoln

    Purveyor

    JUSTPLAY, I have known you for sometime and do not recall seriously disagreeing with you before. Hence, I would prefer to maintain our civility.  Sincerely,  Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Sweet Jesus, you thought I was serious?  That was sarcasm.  Seriously.  I thought it was so absurdly obvious.

  • Anonymous

    Go back to the Christie site and scroll down a bit, I spent the day beating up Socialist-Liberals.

    You should enjoy it. LOL

    Purveyor

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    more recently 2006, Judge Posner argues that facing terrorism and the threat of WMDs, the scope of constitutional rights must be adjusted in a pragmatic but rational manner.

    Fortunate to us, this is just in a book and not in the laws of our nation.

    I would stand with 1 muslim before 1000 christians? against. It’s their right as well as ours.

    Prejudice be danmed in all forms.

    It comes down to basic principles, your either for your Constitution that is trying to be perverted for one religion over the other, or your for your Constitution as the words of your nation for all men. I stand on the second. I am an American who may or not believe in a religion, I will not trample on anothers till they raise a hand against me. Extremists come in all shapes, forms and religions. I will not bow to any.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    “The Constitution is NOT a suicide pact” A. Lincoln

    One thing to mention before continuing.. You quoted A. Lincoln? Do you have proof he himself was Christian? He mentions GOD alot..but was he in fact Christian? one thing he was known to say is

    That I am not a member of any Christian church is true – A Lincoln

    Mentioning GOD, He could have been just as much a jew or a muslim. in fact, alot of his statements can be related to and from the qu’ran.. Would any three religions have made him any lessor of a man than he was?

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Thanks for the spelling correction. Why not learn math now then you can see spending too much hurts the economy but you numbnuts want more of it!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Libs around here use teabagger but that’s not a word either. Right? Oh I get it all of them are fags!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Thanks for the kiddies view of the world. time to go bye bye!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: You can call me Captain America compared to you libs!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Hey have fun going to the Muslim slums in Europe and tell them God bless you so time and get back to us?

  • Anonymous

    Fact: No I say it like this computer or not! Flea squad
    step up!

  • Anonymous

    Stop with the platitudes. All I have been doing is exercising my 1st amendment rights by pointing out that Islam is a putrid culture. I can do that! As long as I don’t “shout fire in a crowded theater,” so to speak. Furthermore, ‘denial’ and ‘foolishness’ are forms of extremism, which, as you wrote, “come(s) in all shapes, forms and religions.”
    Lastly, prejudice, “is a preconceived ‘opinion’ not based on reason.” My ‘conclusion’ about Islam is based on reason, evidence and history. If anything, you are the one whose attitude is “not based on reason”
    PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

  • Anonymous

    “The Constitution protects the minority, not the Majority.” 

     I believe you mean “from a majority” that is in violation of the Constitution.  The Constitution should protect us all, ergo “equal protection” and neutral principle.

    I understood your meaning, however, given the readership, is always prudent to be accurate.

    Purveyor

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Smoking Crack again?  You really need to do that without having your head stuck up your ass….

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    90% of Islam is radical, the other 10% are, like American Liberals, Clueless as to what is really going on…

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    The Muslim Minority needs protected?  Could have fooled me….they get all the protection that fools like you, Christie, and Obammy, can give them. Everybody should be Vetted before running for office..the media and left didn’t Vett that damn incompetent fool we have in the White House, and look where we have gone in less than 3 years…straight into the crapper.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Lincoln was a lousy Prez….and if looked into, it appears he had some serious mental disorders(much like Jimmy Carter)…

  • Anonymous

    “Land holders ought to have a share in the government to support these invaluable interests, and to balance and check the other.  They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority.”

    James Madison

    A VERY powerful quote considering the current, ongoing debate over the debt, taxes and entitlement, etc.  Apparently, Madison recognized, that someday Socialist-Democrats would come along and attempt to destroy the Nation by “killing the goose that laid the proverbial, golden egg, so to speak?  LOL

    The Founders knew that liberals and class envy were in America’s future, how prescient!

    Purveyor

  • Taters N Beans

    Good for him! I like him more and more. If he can lose a hundred pounds he can run in 4 years.

  • Victor Tiffany

    Christie got a standing ovation for his stand on this appointee from Lawrence O’Donnell. Finally, someone standing up to the whack-job, crazy, Tea Party, reactionary, Islamophobic, extremist right misinformed by Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

    I happen to be standing as I type this, so I too give Gov. Christie a standing applause for calling out the extremists on the right as “crazies.” This is especially deserving since this stand against the Republican base means that he will never get their support to become the Republican nominee for President of the United States.

  • Victor Tiffany

    Not as a Republican, he can’t. He just alienated the base.

  • Anonymous
  • Victor Tiffany
  • Victor Tiffany
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  • guest

    Where do you find these things?  And to call the content “facts”, is to call questions facts.  Oh, that’s right.  You already do!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    Not really.  He’s a Koch Whore whom plays both sides of the fence in an educated state and market.  He knows he can’t be too Bush like in his scope and here he goes after his base of nuzis.  Sorry, he’s saying what anyone with a third grade education knows – and therefore this will never show on Fox.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    And Americans that don’t drink their kool-aide.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    Misdirect much Roger Ailes?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    Your a coward for the moronic right.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    If you don’t goose step to the moronic right – you’re not part of the team right?!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    He’s a con man; one term in NJ.  Period.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    Morons whom praised and voted for Bush are not the arbitors of intelligence.  Go away stupid. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    Says the Palinista from Glennbeckistan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7QX4BPJAM6YC6NW4YB2ZPTSKU JB

    It really is unfortunate that the “religulous” right has left this planet and have joined the likes of Jim Jones, David Koresch and other cults in complete and utter devoted and brainwashed ignorance.  I’ve witnessed the dumbing down of a generation at the hands of Reagan, Falwell and Murdoch.  These are dark times in world history as the Republicans have become the Evil Empire the professed to fearing.  Dumb masses lead by Corporate Greed masquarading as patriotism and morality – The GOP aka Nuzis.

  • Gar

    Rush will have no choice but to tear into TP darling Chris Christie  …he can’t give a single one of “them” a free pass or his whole fear-train might derail.

  • Gar

    Rush will have no choice but to tear into TP darling Chris Christie  …he can’t give a single one of “them” a free pass or his whole fear-train might derail.

  • Gar

    Maybe the list should contain the names of people on the right he “wasn’t” talking about. That should narrow it down to 4 or 5 people.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see how this pertains  to the so called “patriots” trying to gin up fear and hate to scare the un-informed into falsely believing that “negative” parts of Sharia Law is legal anywhere in the US. I can’t make the trip to Europe right now, but if go south and yell “redneck tea bagger” to the right ole boy, that might not be fun,… but proves the fear, hate and crazy even more.

  • Gar

    I
    couldn’t have said it better. For years I’ve considered FOX and its faults
    prophets nothing more than Cult TV. It amazes me how these people can call
    themselves Christians yet act so unChrist-like, and how they can thump a bible that
    explicitly warns of faults prophets, yet be so easily duped into a cult society.
    These people are such sheep and so willing to believe anything but the truth it
    is astounding.

  • Anonymous

    Why the doublespeak?  Crap = liberal accomplishment…

  • Sandie

    You must have missed it every time Christie said he was not interested in running for prez. Don’t be going and putting any more crazy   contrived ideas into that little delusional mind.
    Come on …. the only reason you are standing as you type this is because you can’t sit down with your head up your rectum.

  • Sandie

    Ya, typical “liberal accomplishment” ….. crap. You said a mouthful, but then you always have a mouthful of that .

    LMAO

  • Sandie

    Christianity, unlike Islam, does not preach jihad against those who are not  adherents to the religion. It does not promote killing infidels and that lying is OK if it is to further the cause of the religion..

  • Sandie

    You are awefuly quick to assume that. Even if he ruffled a few feathers, in 4 years it would all have died out.

  • Anonymous

    Not everyone is a s shallow as you are Vicky33. This is why you are an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    SO I suppose in your little twisted world those American Japanese who served in WWII should be shunned by the right as well, correct?

    Vicky33, this is why you are an idiot!

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    It does protect all.. protect all from one another.. hate groups on hate groups..it’s stupid.

    your whole theory on Islam is to blanket the whole group due to a few. Can you not see how wrong that is? Should we round them up like we did the Japanese? And that was right in what ways?  You’re letting your fears, control you principles. We didn’t turn on Oklahoma due to an idiot within their borders? Waco, it went bad in so many ways..  Jim Jones.. Norway.. So many.. you can’t let your fear dictate your principles.

    This is like saying although I think Obama is stupid, all democrats are.. oh wait..wait..I may see your point. no, that would be wrong..

    Im no more an Obama Supporter as I am an Islam supporter. but I support their rights they are guaranteed by the Constitution of their Country and mine.

    Thanks for allowing me to mistype..and mis quote.. as long as the meaning was transported.

    I figure that grammar mom should be along shortly..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCCV5PRHW6POKV7HDQYIHB237A LW

    What else is new? Another politician who is a useful idiot and working against the Constitutional Republic. He clearly is not paying attention to what is going on in England and the EU with respect to the implementation of Sharia law and the oppression of women. One has to wonder why Cristie defends a religion that kills and maims women in accordance with Sharia Law. If he cannot understand the real apprehension most Americans have for such a violent political ideology, he needs to step down and let those who would put this country and its people first, do the job.

  • Anonymous

    He just dropped in my estimation.  The movement by Muslims to infiltrate Sharia in various nations of the West is real.  So I understand that he wants to defend his appointee, but don’t bash a valid argument in the process.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, we’re going to barbecue his fat ass over an open spit.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s do lunch?  LOL

    “We could plot a murder, or start a religion”  Jim Morrison

  • Anonymous

    So Christie’s complaints about crazy people represent a “far more centrist position than many others running” for president.

    When did “calling out crazy” become a bold, unusual stance for a candidate? Is rejecting insanity really a sign of being a “centrist”? Or could it just be a sign of being a “normal, thinking person”?

  • King Deficit RReagan

    Christie is right not to run for President. He showed he can still think for himself, and not like the far right obstructionist robots in Washington D.C.

  • http://twitter.com/RonCdeWeijze Ron C. de Weijze

    Two heroes down in one blow from the Taliban: Christie and Coulter. I wish them many happy years together, outside of our attention scope.

  • Anonymous

    Whoa! Non-sequitur, and the opposite of  what Victor Tiffany was saying.

    What is with the Vicky33 all the time?

  • Anonymous

    I am going to steal that from you (and youtube) , and use it often.
    Funnier if you just post the link with no explanation. ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Muslims are capitalists. You are attacking socialists and communists, so your arguments about capitalism, while valid, support the appointment of a Muslim over a “Marxist” Democrat, if there were such a thing.

  • Anonymous

    Your mind is like a steel trap.

    Always closed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yl3UMO-TkE

  • Anonymous

    It’s about the idea that Christie necessarily alienated his base by defending someone who has demonstrated loyalty to the US despite his background. The reference about the Japanese WWII vets who served in the American services demonstrates a parallel situation where people from a foreign land, of which we are currently at odds with, that served the US aren’t necessarily shunned and castigated for their heritage. Objective voters realize that the sins of our fathers and brothers do not always equate guilt by familial lineage or previous allegiances.

    Vicky33 asserts a great deal of his opinion as fact which are easily refuted with counter-examples and basic logic. However, once caught in an error, or lie, he never offers a reasonable justification, just an insult – and usually a considerably vulgar one at that. He is also notorious for posting spam messages trying to promote his fledgling Anti-Beck, Hate-Beck website which does little more than repeat the same nonsense he typically posts on these forums. He has been banned from posting at Beck’s website as well as others, but I do not know the extent of sites he’s been banned from. He also operates under numerous alias of which many can be seen here. There is a trail of comments in the blog-o-sphere where he used to use the alias David Cox or David Coxe.

    His errors are vast and far reaching – go see for yourself. I’ve adopted the pet name Vicky for him because of his allusive boasts of education, his elusive arguments, and his illusive ideas about his role in affecting the activities of Beck and his indomitable indifference to name calling and whining.

    Based on a cacophony of bad comments as such, I have downgraded Vicky’s likely IQ to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 33 give or take an error rate of 3-4 points – in my humble opinion. He is either just this ignorant or a paid hack of the democratic media machine. No one of average intelligence would make as many gaffes, write as much guff, or spout as many indignities as this particular individual does without either being a paid hack or a simpleton of academic and perhaps emotional ability.

    SPH aka Sock Puppet Hill – Vicky’s favorite pet name for me.

    P.S. Go ahead and get his side of the story. You’ll see…

  • Anonymous

    For you, any pretense at critical thinking is now destroyed.

    You think to criticize, not to check for bias in your own thoughts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Todd-Scheller/100000832449863 Todd Scheller

    Victor,
    Does that include the first ever reduction of the credit rating by Standard and Poor’s since 1917? Great accomplishment to be proud of.

  • Victor Tiffany

    That’s Benny’s way of showing his maturity.

    I have his smear campaign against me documented.
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/07/smearing-of-glenn-beck-review.html

    He’s rationalizing his immature and off the wall personal attack because I repeated what Lawrence O’Donnell said.

    Benny is a reactionary racist, a hypocrite, a liar and a dedicated character assassin. Other than that, he’s GREAT!

  • Victor Tiffany

    That’s Benny’s way of showing his maturity.

    I have his smear campaign against me documented.
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/07/smearing-of-glenn-beck-review.html

    He’s rationalizing his immature and off the wall personal attack because I repeated what Lawrence O’Donnell said.

    Benny is a reactionary racist, a hypocrite, a liar and a dedicated character assassin. Other than that, he’s GREAT!

  • Victor Tiffany

    Non-sequitur indeed! Benny, I didn’t mention the Japanese. You demonstrate why you’re an idiot by writing this comment, one that I’ll have to document because you show your true colors…other than the racist attitude you have toward Obama which I have already documented.

    At least with me using my actual name, even a casual observer can see what a childish a$$hole you are.

  • Victor Tiffany

    You don’t usee counter examples and basic logic much. When you do I wipe the floor with your ass.

    I call you, for the record, Benny, the sock-puppet, Hill because you’re a coward unwilling to divulge your actual identity.

    The IQ you assign to me also shows your sleazy nature. If I had an IQ of 33, you moron, I would not be able to wipe my own ass much less graduate from college and run a blog.

    The real reason Benny has a bug up his ass about me is because I’ve exposed his cult hero, Glenn Beck, as a liar, a hypocrite, an ignorant genius of reactionary propaganda and a charlatan.  Benny and Sandie’s attacks on me (among others) prove my one other claim about Mr. Beck: he’s become a cult of personality.

    Beck, who could not hack college, is the ignorant one that Benny adores for ideological reasons.  To quote the author of Debunking Glenn Beck from Facebook:

    Beck’s target audience hold on to their world-view in spite of the facts and their own experiences. The facts and their own experiences contradict their world-view, which threatens their own sense of identity and security. Hence, their need for people like Beck. He feeds them the lies and propaganda that they NEED to hear, in order to reinforce their own sense of identity and security. It is for this reason that they act in a hostile manner to anyone who criticizes Beck or points out facts that contradict their own assertions.” 

    That pretty much nails Benny and the rest of the Beckerhead gang of reactionaries.

  • Victor Tiffany

    He’s not running in 2012. He has not ruled out 2016.

    The only reason you write your stupid comments attacking me is to demonstrate that Beckerheads, male or female, are reactionary pricks.

    I have your sleazy campaign of smear documented:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/07/smearing-of-glenn-beck-review.html

  • Sandie

    He has not ruled out being an astronaut either…. people keep trying to put the idea in his head and badger him about running and he just part denies, part shrugs… who is to say – no one until it happens. This speculation is stupid – it is just like the media who keeps on trying to whip up excitement about Palin – “will she run?”

    You said “The only reason you write your stupid comments attacking me is to
    demonstrate that Beckerheads, male or female, are reactionary pricks.” ….. You can think whatever you want as you will anyway. No… I reply to you in the manner that you post. I defend myself against your smear campaign.

    That sleazy bugsite you keep advertising is a character assassination
    site that you have built as an obsession with your hatred for Beck and
    those who support him and  disagree with you. You
    bait people with obscene, vile and nasty posts containing personal
    attacks on them at GlennBeck.com ,  and then when they
    respond in kind to your bait, you cut/paste their replies into your site in your
    smear campaign and character assassination agenda. Of course you refrain from displaying your nasty vile bait posts in a dishonest one-sided display.. That is low and
    disgusting, and anyone foolish enough to go there would see your twisted work. You should be embarrassed but instead you gloat with sick pride
    like a demented killer who wears the skin of his victims as part of his
    obsession. That makes you the sick dishonest master of sleaze and character
    assassination.

    You can’t carry on a legitimate debate or appropriate discussion, and when you get beat, you always taunt by dangling your sick little  “I have your sleazy campaign of smear documented:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutg…”    (because that is all you have left ) when in fact it is you who are doing the smear campaign.    …. HOW PATHETIC IS THAT?
    As if that is somehow a winning part of the exchange. It really shows you for what you are, a hateful, abusive, mean, egotistical , dishonest, sleazy, character assassin.

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    RIGHT ON SANDIE! TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    reread the comment Vicky33. You didn’t understand it.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, Vicky33, a counter-example was what the Japanese-American analogy served as. You know, you can’t just claim these things Vicky33. You have to show it. You have to show how the example of the Japanese-Americans who served us in WWII weren’t embraced by the society at large. Not some yahoo out in a corn field who couldn’t let the war go, but how society at large condemned them despite the loyalty demonstrated by their service to the US Armed Forces.

    It’s no wonder why you can’t debate. You can’t even understand what the argument is!

    This is why you’re an idiot!

    I am sorry Vicky33. But you’re either not reading the text properly or not reading it well. I’m not sure which it is, but you constantly make the same kinds of mistakes. Your reading comprehension is horrid. And it shows in your writing as well.

  • Anonymous

    Reread the post Vicky33. It’s all there for you to see… You don’t understand!

  • Sandie

    This is one reason why trying to debate or discuss any topic with him is near impossible…. and then he ends up in the same old rut of attack and here’s my sleazy website if anyone wants to come in it and see my soiled panties.

  • Anonymous

    One more thing… Your propensity for imitating my criticisms and arguments against your comments is either flattery or a sign that you lack creativity. If your going to claim flaws in my arguments, comments, or personality, you need to find those flaws as demonstrated by what I have written. Like when you call me a racist. That’s not a half-bad ploy. It’s wrong, but it’s a step in the right direction for you.

    Thus, you are either trying to be more like me, or you cannot come up with anything substantial on your own so you try to turn the argument back onto me. Either way, it demonstrates how much of an affect I have on you which is apparent that someone such as me, using an avatar of a deceased comedic buffoon, can rattle you so easily. You need to get your priorities straight Vicky33.

    I have so derailed you from your mission that each time you respond to my commentary you further make yourself look more like Daffy Duck to my Bugs Bunny.

    The joke is always on you Vicky33… This is why you are an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    ;-) You said panties!

  • Anonymous

    “You don’t usee counter examples and basic logic much. When you do I wipe the floor with your ass.”

    You will have to learn to spell and not leave the evidence behind that you can’t before you can wipe the floor with me, Viv. Are you just trying to sound butch, or are you that delusional? I seriously doubt you would make that claim if we were face to face – something you have avoided committing to on more than one occasion. Hell, I doubt you can wipe yourself, much less the floor – except with your tongue.

    You don’t use real, documented, independently unbiased, and verified information in your groundless allegations, so I don’t see where you have made a point to counter. You are basically your own insane clown posse as evidenced by your pitiful blog which, while it appears to allow comments never has any on any of the entries. You really aren’t interested in truth or facts independent of your agenda so why do you invite comments on that poorly designed website anyway?

    I invite everyone who can read this post to go to his inconsequential blog page and look at the entries there – go to the bottom and see if there are any comments that don’t agree with his misogynist and narcissistic views.  It is there in print so to speak for all to see, and you will see he is playing to an audience of one – Victor.

  • Victor Tiffany

    Benny likes to demonstrate that Beckerheads are childish and sleazy.

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/07/smearing-of-glenn-beck-review.html

    In other words: SOS, DD.

  • Victor Tiffany

    Let me know, Sandie, the mistress of sleaze , when you stop your lies.

    Ask Todd if my Glenn Beck Review is “buggy.” You are lying again.

    My vile, nasty comments on Glenn Beck’s website are in retaliation for your vile, nasty lies about me. I punch back when a sleazy mistriss of smear punches me.

    You lie when you claim that I hate Beck. I don’t hate Beck; I hate you. I hate everyone Beckerhead in this ad hoc team of character assassins. I have had in written down for over a year that I don’t hate Beck, but you don’t care about facts; you don’t have to care about facts. You’re a Beckerhead.

    You claim I’m smearing Beck, but I document my claims, claims that you NEVER address except by smearing me.  Beck is a hypocrite. That’s a fact understood by many of his critics. I just happen to keep a count of the examples that I’ve noticed. 26 so far. You don’t care; you don’t have to care. You’re a Beckerhead. Being a Beckerhead means turning blond eyes and deaf ears towards Beck’s many faults.
    C’mon, Sandie, address any of the examples of Beck’s hypocrisies:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/05/becks-24th-hypocrisy-concerns-media.html

    Your sleazy smear efforts against me are well documented Sandie, the cyber-stalker who published my address and phone number on Beck’s site, and that is not the worst of her terrorist tactics.
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/07/smearing-of-glenn-beck-review.html

    Don’t think you’re a terrorist Sandie?  Tell my wife. She is terrorized by your sleazy intimidation tactic.

    THAT IS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. Beckerheads like SoThere have no idea what “it is.” Not, at least, if they believe any of Beck’s deceitful propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    So, rather than correct yourself, you yield defeat? A weak position Vicky… Very weak…

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    And you continue to show your paranoia and sickness.

    “TMP”

  • Victor Tiffany

    If it’s all there for [me] to see, why are you explaining it below? Apparently I’m not the only one who can’t make the jump of logic and topic you’re attempting.

    Japanese Americans, who were DRAFTED into service, did suffer discrimination when they came home. Clinton, not Bush, not Reagan, not Bush, not Nixon, made it a point to recognize their service to their country.

    It’s still a non-sequitor put out to make an ass of me…except it backfired, just like all of your ad hominem attacks backfire, whether you realize it or not.

    You are defending Beck by ruthlessly, maliciously and deceitfully attacking me with childish personal insults. Pointing this out isn’t “whining,” it’s driving home (again) what a loser you are for defending a proven liar, hypocrite and ignorant genius of reactionary propaganda.

    You don’t like those facts, but you never, never, NEVER, challenge them. Instead, you carry on with your ad hominem attacks on me.

    It’s so much easier for you to attack Beck’s critic than it is to defend a known and proven liar, hypocrite and propagandist. Tell us, sock puppet, where is the error in my simple claim: Glenn Beck is a hypocrite? Here’s my proof: where’s your defense of  Beck?  Attacking me is the chicken-shit way out of this assertion. Grow a pair:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/05/becks-24th-hypocrisy-concerns-media.html

    Address my accusation Benny, or be known as the character assassin that you have worked so hard over the last 4-5 months to become.

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, we’ve gone over the fact that you demonstrate that you hate Beck. It doesn’t matter that you claim you don’t. You consistently demonstrate it. And even you ought to realize that your own state law would see you convicted of a hate crime based on the standards established in case law.

    And as far as the topic of this discussion thread. Do you not have any rebuttal to defend your argument about Christie? After all, isn’t that the main point of your comment and Sandie’s? What about my claim that there’s no likely long term repercussions to Christie’s via his conservative voting base.

    You spend all this time insulting people, accusing people, promoting your website, yet no time defending your arguments – which in this case have nothing to do with Beck Mr. Review.

    Don’t you see how this weakens everything you post?

  • Sandie

    But Victor, you are childish and sleazy. And you demonstrate it all the time with posts like these.

    SOS SD ED ATT

  • Victor Tiffany

    Not everyone is as shallow is I supposedly am, as usual, makes no sense. I applauded Christie. I think his defense of his appointee was brilliant. I also basically repeated the view of Lawrence O’Donnell. Is he shallow too Benny?  This is why you are, if I could bring out more evidence from me records, the real idiot here. Also, I’m pointing to the shallowness of clowns like you and others in the Republican base. That is also why you’re the real idiot here.

    I don’t like calling you an idiot, no matter how much you demonstrate idiocy. That just looks like a flame war. Actually, you’re a sleazy character assassin and a Beckerhead. That, together, robs you of all dignity and credibility with anyone aware of Beck’s reputation as a liar, like these guys:

    http://glennbeckreport.com/glenn-beck-lies/

    C’mon, Benny; address any of the lies in that very long list. Don’t write about me, character assassin; write about any one of these lies that these bloggers expose.  (I won’t hold my breath waiting.)

  • Victor Tiffany

    You are awfully (note spelling) inept, politically speaking.

    Lawrence O’Donnell expressed that perspective, and he’s not wrong much, certainly far less often than Beck is wrong with his predictions.

    There are several reasons Christie will never be president, not least of which is his calling people like you “crazy.”

  • Victor Tiffany

    Flame warrior. Show how you disagree. Otherwise you just come across as a moronic flame warrior.

    Now, I’d take issue with the last sentence about Coulter.  I think that she’s wrong about Coulter. I think that Coulter is a genuine reactionary. I think that she really believes liberals to be as demonic as she claims.

    Of course, this is just opinion. She may be laughing all the way to the bank as Ganymede suggests, but I think that she’s the real thing: hateful, reactionary and ideologically blind.

  • Victor Tiffany

    Right. Christians never burned witches. The Crusades? What Crusades?

    If you don’t believe that Christ would approve of liars, why do you lie about my blog to further the cult of Beck?

  • Sandie

    I am not and haven’t been lying – that is your playbook Vic.

    If Todd’s PC hasn’t been effected good for him, not all of us have his security software.

    Your vile, nasty comments elicit responses in kind. You are the one who lit the match and fannned the flame.

    Your history of Beck-hating is well documented as are your lies.

    Your documentation which consists of your bugsite that contains your opinions and those of other left wing prog bloggers and cut/paste from far left ragsites is not proof of any of your claims. Your claims have been addressed by me and others repeatedly until we are keyboard weary, with links to sources but you chose to ignore them and pretend no one ever responded because you do not like the argument and refuse to see the truth, so you repeatedly post your claims and challenge people to respond to them, apparently hoping to see something you like. People are tired of you and your nonsense and will no longer go along with your game. Since you like to dig around, go back and find the responses and actually read them without your biased assimilation. The content of this 5th paragraph of yours gives a few clues as to your obsession with Beck.

    Your smear campaign against me and others is dishonest as you Posted vile, nasty obscene material to us to elicit a response in kind, then cut/paste theose responses without your s onto your bugsite to show a contrived one sided illusion. You are a sick man Victor and a liar. I never stalked you (who would want to), nor did I ever make any “terrorist attacks” on you. However, you have attacked and threatened me and others who post at Becks site. Hopefully people who have been reading your diatribes and see what you do will not fall victim to you.

    Are you actually accusing me of being a terrorist now? That is a pretty heavy accusation and you better have proof that my lawyer can’t refute.
    I can’t help that you frighten you wife with your crazy stories. The way you behave here, your exagerations, imaginanry events, and your proclivity for stirring things up, I bet you do worse at home where you have a captive audience. That is a form of abuse. I don’t know your wife, never talked to her, never terrorized her. You did that.

    I AM TELLING IT LIKE IT IS, you are a delusional liar and should rename your bugsite to Smoke-And-Mirrors.com

  • Sandie

    Victor, it is very telling about your psychological state when you don’t like something I have posted, don’t like my views, and don’t like my answers, that you immediately start attacking me, and change the subject in order to deflect attention from you being made to look stupid or losing an argument.

    The post to which you are posting was in response to you. I responded honestly. You chose again to attack. Expect a reply in kind.

  • Sandie

    He did, we all saw them, you choose to ignore them or have a bad memory,

    Stop flaming

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    So now you believe in Christ, well that’s a start Victor.

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    Vicky, it’s much more simple than you realize and it doesn’t matter if they were drafted or which president endorsed them. What matters is that they were embraced by all of America. I never claimed they didn’t suffer discrimination. But, you failed to make a case that it was only conservatives who did the discriminating.

    So you fail again by simply not being thorough.

    I seriously even doubt you could collect data to support the case that any discrimination they did suffer was only directed from people who would qualify as either party anyway.

    And that’s not the point.

    You’ve really tried to make this into something other than what it is. It was an analogy to compare something which is similar and show how it correlates to the topic at hand. But I see you are too busy trying to show how this is an attempt to make you look bad and undermine your cause while you simultaneously make yourself look bad and undermine your cause.

    Even if – and remember this is a hypothetical – I didn’t make a good analogy which isn’t the case, my whole point is to make the case that the conservative base isn’t as shallow as you claim, and apparently are. Not that the Japanese have anything to do with Christie.

    The fact that I have explained the analogy to someone else does not make it a bad analogy. You’ll notice that the Devil didn’t come back with a counter explaining that I was off base after clarification. Of course, you could argue that he’s simply not yet made his counter and that may be true, but the fact that I had to add clarity doesn’t make it invalid.

    Vicky33, you really have to learn to govern your passions, they will be your undoing.

    So, since this is the case, we must resort to the same old routine. But, you’ve not yet shown a good defense of your first argument that Christie has alienated his base. So, before I get to the part where I claim you are an idiot, I will first demonstrate what you should have done, what is required to make your case, and how to frame it so that you could possibly defend the idea that Christie’s base will abandon him.

    The revelation to you of what you should have done to defend this is:
    …To point out where there are obvious cases (documented) that conservatives en masse have voted against a conservative candidate for endorsing someone from a heritage or culture that we are currently, or formerly were at war with.

    That’s all you needed to do. So, when you provide this example I will concede that you were right and I was wrong. And don’t think you can quote this out of context. I keep copies of everything…

    Now you should know all of that, shouldn’t you? And if you were the fair critic you claim to be I wouldn’t need to spend time and space clarifying it, would I? I should have been spending time refuting a claim that republicans shun Muslims by example – and a lot of examples, not just one here or there. But that very claim is refuted in the story about Christie (a conservative) endorsing this particular Muslim judge. So, your argument seems to already be severely weakened by rote.

    You see the truth is conservatives as a whole don’t discriminate against people for their skin color or familial heritage. They do, however, as a whole, challenge people who possess ideas that threaten America and have ideas that are counter-intuitive to conservative ideologies. But that doesn’t mean they discriminate against someone who doesn’t believe in God as they do. Again, this is a shallow framing of conservatives that is not representative of the larger community that people like yourself are predisposed to support. However, I could make a strong case against liberals who jump ship for shallow reasons. Please challenge me to show this! Please challenge me to show this!

    For a few conservative examples…

    The Army didn’t throw the entire population of Muslims serving in our forces after the Nidal Hassan shooting at Ft. Hood and the conservative base didn’t call for it.

    America (as in a lot of people who fall across a wide political stance) was mad about the Twin Towers in 2001 and struck out against a few Muslims shortly thereafter, but there are Muslims still in America after that event. There is no majority movement of conservatives to exile all Muslims from sea to shining sea.

    In television , when the fictional story of Jack Bauer showed him freeing a Muslim he had arrested in season 7 (I think) because he learned the Muslim wasn’t involved in the crime, there was no audience outrage – in fact there was audience relief that he did the right thing, and that was a primarily conservative audience.

    It’s that simple Vicky33. So go on and try to wriggle your way out of this. However, I will close with this…

    The fact that I have to explain these ideas and concepts to you like this are the very thing that makes the claim stick that you are not the academic and worldly person you claim to be. I sum it up and call you an idiot relentlessly because your ego drives you to think so highly of yourself. Because you cannot see this for yourself you become deluded that I am somehow defending Beck by challenging you. But I am not. In fact, this topic has nothing to do with him, and you didn’t start off even saying anything about Beck. Yet, I still find flaws in what you claim because you make comments that are too general in nature by either being too wide or too narrow. There is a principle I live by: be wary of people who are certain. You my friend are one of those people.

    Remember, if you want me to prove how shallow a liberal can be, just ask. I guarantee you’ll regret it.

  • Anonymous

    You know the Salem Witch trials were more isolated than widespread. And remember, the crusades were a long time before the protestants. And again, once more, to add to the point, to make sure you are aware… Check your work Vicky. You now have a blog to further the cult of Beck?

    If you can’t think clearly enough to word a sentence in such a way that makes you look like the instigator you’ve got no business calling yourself a critic or media blogger.

    This is why you are an idiot!

  • Sandie

    The ineptness is in your mind.

    How childish that you call attention to others typo/spelling – you have nothing cogent to say again but desperately need a way to belittle someone else to stoke your own ego. No surprise.

    O’Donnell, the self described communist, socialist is entitle to his opinions that don’t matter to most people.

    Christie never called me crazy, he saves that for people like you.

    Stop your stupid flaming.

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, context. Reread it again before you stick your other foot in your mouth too!

  • Sandie

    I never said Christians never burned witches. The Crusades where in the 11th-13th centuries we are living in the 21st century.

    I don’t lie about your blog.

    My post you dug up to comment on is 5 days old at least. Why did you wait so long to comment? Why are you digging up my old posts?

    WHY ARE YOU STALKING ME?

  • Anonymous

    I guess then you don’t realize why you stating that is base is abandoning him is shallow do you?

  • Anonymous

    Vicky believes in whatever suits his needs to make arguments against conservative ideas at the moment.

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, context. Reread it again before you stick your other foot in your mouth too!

  • Guest

    Vicky, it’s much more simple than you realize and it doesn’t matter if they were drafted or which president endorsed them. What matters is that they were embraced by all of America. I never claimed they didn’t suffer discrimination. But, you failed to make a case that it was only conservatives who did the discriminating.
    So you fail again by simply not being thorough.
    I seriously even doubt you could collect data to support the case that any discrimination they did suffer was only directed from people who would qualify as either party anyway.
    And that’s not the point.
    You’ve really tried to make this into something other than what it is. It was an analogy to compare something which is similar and show how it correlates to the topic at hand. But I see you are too busy trying to show how this is an attempt to make you look bad and undermine your cause while you simultaneously make yourself look bad and undermine your cause.
    Even if – and remember this is a hypothetical – I didn’t make a good analogy which isn’t the case, my whole point is to make the case that the conservative base isn’t as shallow as you claim, and apparently are. Not that the Japanese have anything to do with Christie.
    The fact that I have explained the analogy to someone else does not make it a bad analogy. You’ll notice that the Devil didn’t come back with a counter explaining that I was off base after clarification. Of course, you could argue that he’s simply not yet made his counter and that may be true, but the fact that I had to add clarity doesn’t make it invalid.
    Vicky33, you really have to learn to govern your passions, they will be your undoing.
    So, since this is the case, we must resort to the same old routine. But, you’ve not yet shown a good defense of your first argument that Christie has alienated his base. So, before I get to the part where I claim you are an idiot, I will first demonstrate what you should have done, what is required to make your case, and how to frame it so that you could possibly defend the idea that Christie’s base will abandon him.
    The revelation to you of what you should have done to defend this is:
    …To point out where there are obvious cases (documented) that conservatives en masse have voted against a conservative candidate for endorsing someone from a heritage or culture that we are currently, or formerly were at war with. That’s all you needed to do. So, when you provide this example I will concede that you were right and I was wrong. And don’t think you can quote this out of context. I keep copies of everything…
    Now you should know all of that, shouldn’t you? And if you were the fair critic you claim to be I wouldn’t need to spend time and space clarifying it, would I? I should have been spending time refuting a claim that republicans shun Muslims by example – and a lot of examples, not just one here or there. But that very claim is refuted in the story about Christie (a conservative) endorsing this particular Muslim judge. So, your argument seems to already be severely weakened by rote.
    You see the truth is conservatives don’t discriminate against people for their skin color or familial heritage. They do, however, challenge people who possess ideas that threaten America and have ideas that are counter-intuitive to conservative ideologies. But that doesn’t mean they discriminate against someone who doesn’t believe in God as they do. Again, this is a shallow framing of conservatives that is not representative of the larger community that people like yourself are predisposed to support. However, I could make a strong case against liberals who jump ship for shallow reasons. Please challenge me to show this! Please challenge me to show this!

    For a few conservative examples…
    The Army didn’t throw the entire population of Muslims serving in our forces after the Nidal Hassan shooting at Ft. Hood and the conservative base didn’t call for it.
    America was mad about the Twin Towers in 2001 and struck out against a few Muslims shortly thereafter, but there are Muslims still in America after that event. There is no majority movement of conservatives to exile all Muslims from sea to shining sea.
    In television , when the fictional story of Jack Bauer showed him freeing a Muslim he had arrested in season 7 (I think) because he learned the Muslim wasn’t involved in the crime, there was no audience outrage – in fact there was audience relief that he did the right thing, and that was a primarily conservative audience.
    It’s that simple Vicky33. So go on and try to wriggle your way out of this. However, I will close with this…
    The fact that I have to explain these ideas and concepts to you like this are the very thing that makes the claim stick that you are not the academic and worldly person you claim to be. I sum it up and call you an idiot relentlessly because your ego drives you to think so highly of yourself. Because you cannot see this for yourself you become deluded that I am somehow defending Beck by challenging you. But I am not. In fact, this topic has nothing to do with him, and you didn’t start off even saying anything about Beck. Yet, I still find flaws in what you claim because you make comments that are too general in nature by either being too wide or too narrow. There is a principle I live by: be wary of people who are certain. You my friend are one of those people.
    Remember, if you want me to prove how shallow a liberal can be, just ask. I guarantee you’ll regret it.

  • Sandie

    I have a copy of the threads of your vile comments at Becks, and they trace right back to the ones where you started it. They show that you lit the match Vic.

  • Sandie

    He is behind us by a few centuries  and apparently can’t figure out that I am talking about the here and now. I guess that is in keeping with his digging up a 5 day old post to tag onto.  He is stalking me again.

  • Anonymous

    Uh, Vicky33, this topic isn’t about Beck… And I have addressed your lies about Beck time and time again proving you were lying and lying over and over again.

    Why don’t you post all of that material? Would you like for me to do so on your behalf?

  • Anonymous

    Uh, Vicky33, this topic isn’t about Beck… And I have addressed your lies about Beck time and time again proving you were lying and lying over and over again.

    Why don’t you post all of that material? Would you like for me to do so on your behalf?

  • Anonymous

    Uh, Vicky33, this topic isn’t about Beck… And I have addressed your lies about Beck time and time again proving you were lying and lying over and over again.

    Why don’t you post all of that material? Would you like for me to do so on your behalf?

  • Victor Tiffany

    Benny likes to pontificate (below, where there is no “Reply” button) about how my “ego drives you to think so highly of yourself. Because you cannot see this for yourself you become deluded that I am somehow defending Beck by challenging you. But I am not. In fact, this topic has nothing to do with him, and you didn’t start off even saying anything about Beck. Yet, I still find flaws in what you claim because you make comments that are too general in nature by either being too wide or too narrow.”

    Benny, do you really think that people are that stupid? Apparently you do. 

    First, you have no idea about my ego which has nothing to do with my criticism of Mr. Beck.

    Next, if you’re not defending Beck, why are you attacking me on Glenn Beck’s website and following my around the Internet to attack me for one reason: I’m exposing Beck as a liar, hypocrite and fraud. You’ve been pissed off at me ever since I showed what a hypocrite you are here, as “anonymous” addressing me, before you regressed into elementary school bully, as “Victor:”
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/during-his-speech-to-restore-honor-beck.html

    Next, you NEVER address my claims or my proof that Beck is a liar. You cannot do that because you know I’d destroy your “evidence.” 

    If you only wanted to “find flaws in what [I] claim,” you would not take the sleazy and childish low road. 

    You call me an idiot, but you are the one who referred to Obama as “your boy.” You still have explained that idiom of racist culture.

    I have examples of other pathetically stupid things that you’ve typed,  and if you want me to prove how deceitful and stupid a reactionary can be, just ask. I guarantee you’ll regret it.

    Oh wait, you won’t regret it. You can’t regret. You can have no shame either. You don’t care. You’re nobody, and you are any reactionary Beckerhead.  Anonymity means never having to care, be ashamed, chagrined or remorseful. You can act like a complete ass, and no one will ever know who the asshole racist attacking Victor Tiffany is. What a guy! Or girl. Who knows?

  • Anonymous

    Uh, Vicky33, this story isn’t about Beck. Didn’t you get the memo?

    This is why you’re an idiot!

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    I know what I have seen and I know that you suffer from an illness that needs psychological  attention.

    Say my name and I’ll be there with the truth about you Victor.  I don’t give a rats patute about what Beck gets right and what he gets wrong or how you spin everything.  My concern is for your mental health and delusional comments  when you choose to libel the man.  You have a sickness Vicky, many have recognized it over the years and it’s getting worse.

    It’s scary.

    “TMP”

  • Sandie

    Ain’t that the truth !

  • Sandie

    It’s not like there is no room.

  • Anonymous

    Where there is no reply button? Vicky33, you are retarded! If there was no reply option then how was I able to reply to you?

    This is why you are an idiot!

    You aren’t even qualified to use a computer let alone make statements about the functions of a web-based message board.

    Oh my God! I cannot believe how stupid you really are!

  • Anonymous

    Where there is no reply button? Vicky33, you are retarded! If there was no reply option then how was I able to reply to you?

    This is why you are an idiot!

    You aren’t even qualified to use a computer let alone make statements about the functions of a web-based message board.

    Oh my God! I cannot believe how stupid you really are!

  • Anonymous

    Vicky is technologically challenged. DO you remember when he claimed I was somehow preventing notices from going to his inbox?

  • Anonymous

    Can I get a Hallelujah sister?

  • Sandie

    Victor is talking smack again. Look at his comparisons. Talk about twisted freaks…..

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    I replying to you in a manner that it may not be misunderstood.  I’ve read your cut and paste lies and smears about Glenn Beck for a very long time now.  Your information comes from Media Matters, Huffington Post and a number of other leftist sites.  All of them were dishonest and most were snippets taken out of context.  Many times you failed to even give credit to those sources which is Journalistically dishonest.  You once claimed the authorship of a book that you didn’t write. That’s intellectually dishonest.  You once told me that this is your Hobby and your Life.  Clearly you have a psychological problem that needs to be professionally taken care of.  Normal people have real hobbies that don’t involve constantly libeling other people who they don’t know.  Many of your posts are bitterly hateful leftist rhetoric.  I’m sure that you have convinced yourself that everything you post is the truth. That might help you sleep at night but really Victor?To be totally clear to everyone out there who reads this, I like Glenn Beck but I don’t worship the guy.  He sometimes goes too far but then again other people in the Media also go too far. People like Rachel Maddow who lies about people who don’t think as she does, Keith Olbermann who was fired from MSNBC, Chris Matthews who said he’d pay money to see Rush Limbaugh’s head explode and Ed Schultz (MSNBC’s resident hate-monger) who calls people mindless sluts because they don’t think like he does.Victor needs to attack Glenn Beck for a number of reasons, it gives his lonely life meaning, Beck challenges his liberal dogma and causes people to think out of theMSM block.  Beck also had a lot to do with promoting the Tea Party who have developed into a major political force in this country as is evident in the elections last November and again in Wisconsin last night.I’ve read most of Victors posts up until they became repetitive and hateful. The obsession with Glenn Beck is diminishing his brain functions in a way that he has now become trapped in a world of delusional paranoia.I’m posting to those who have an open mind and because he keeps bringing me into his fantasy land of paranoia .  Now to you directly Victor, get some help. Get a pet (a dog would be nice) please don’t get a parrot. Having a pet who keeps repeating your nonsense to you will only cause more problems.Get some kind of help, please!”TMP”

  • Sandie

    YES ! ….. LMAO every time he accused you of it. I remember you trying to explain that to him and of course he didn’t believe you ….. how funny … and stupid.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t get a parrot! Brilliant!

  • Sandie

    You want a Hallelujah sister? I don’t think you would have much fun with one of them. They have those bad habits you know.

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

    I’m still laughing about that one. LMAO I’m glad you liked it.

    “TMP”

  • Sandie

    Parrot ? ,, LMAO

     No, wait ….maybe gettng a parrot would be good . What better a pet for someone who likes to hear himself talk?

  • Anonymous

    I’m game for a bad habit or two…

  • Sandie

    Yes ! But then maybe he would see what it is like to hear himself repeated all the time … what better punishment? He could call him The Glenn Peck Review/

  • Sandie

    With 2 you will get Nun and Nun again!

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    Oh stop, I can’t take it. Please stop… Please…

  • Victor Tiffany

    Right, freak-job, you’re the the racist. You refer to Obama as “your boy” means that you’re the one who has to extract foot from mouth.

    Fact is, I applauded Christie, and we (I’m hardly alone here) believe that Christie just sunk any chances he may have had of securing the Republican nomination because he called out the Islamophobic base as  ”the crazies,” which they — all who think Beck is worthy of being followed — are.

    Then, there are the hard care racist reactionaries like Benny Hill who loves to show the world that he has got nothing but personal, shallow and deceitful at hominem attacks to wage on me.

    How many times has this a-hole called me an “idiot?”  200?  300?  How many idiots can ace a civics exam?  Poor racist Benny, his efforts to smear me backfire time and again.

    Poor, racist Benny hates the fact that I prove Beck is a liar and a hypocrite. 
    Poor, racist Benny once wrote, “while you may find me a reprehensible creature for defending such a wretched individual such as Beck, I would come to your defense as well in the event someone accused you of anything that were less than attestable.”

    Poor, racist Benny, still lying about whatever he needs,  to attack me personally.  

    Does racist Benny think Beck is “wretched?”  I never say him write that on Beck’s website where he loves to attack any critic of Mr. Beck.  That, too, makes the racist Benny a liar.

    Benny does not care. Benny is an a$$hole. Being the kind of sleazy character assassin that Benny thinks he is means never having to even pretend to have a conscience.

    Poor racist Benny, jumping up and down in the cage of his mind, pulling feces out of his anus and throwing it at me again and again because that’s all a racist, stupid monkey like Benny can manage.

    Tsk, tsk Benny. I guess you don’t realize that stating the President is “your boy” makes you the loser and racist that you in fact really are.  Benny puts the pecker in Beckerhead.

  • Victor Tiffany

    Sandie, your inability to comprehend a cogent argument is your stupidity,  not my problem.

    And, again, you’re a liar.  O’Donnell does not describe himself as “communist.” Far from it, but when you’re a Beckerhead, facts and reality do not matter. Talking points, sleazy lies and off the wall opinions are all that matter.  I have his actual claims documented, which shows what a liar you are:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/08/we-are-not-all-socialists-now.html

    Christie called the Islamophobes crazy, and I am not an Islamophobe.  I can’t see if you are or not, but you’re a Beckerhead and that’s psychotic enough.  You put the pecker in Beckerhead.

    And, again, you are the mistress of flame. I don’t follow you around the Internet and flame you a$$hole; you do that to me.  It’s clear; I comment, you pull feces from your anus and toss it at me.  

    If you’re stupid enough to believe that I’m going to read your sleazy personal attacks on me and not point out the gullible stupidity of the woman who wrote on Beck’s site that Obama did not five the order to get bin Laden, you’re wrong.  

    If you think that I’m not going to point out your sleazy attempt to intimidate me by posting my home address on Beck’s site and ask if I saw a car parked down the street, you’re wrong again.

    So take your stupid, sleazy feces throwing style and shove it back up your ass. You’re so transparently a lying, flame warrior that only retards cannot see what you’re up to.  How f#$king stupid do you have to be to think that you can get away with attacking me personally and then accusing me of “flaming?”

  • Sandie

    Sounds like the person doing the smearing and character assassination her is you Victor.

  • Sandie

    Victor, your inability to comprehend a cogent argument or to make one is your stupidity, and your problem, not mine. Try to develop your critical thinking kills, logic and common sense. It might help unless you are too delusional.

    Victor, I am not attacking you, I am responding in kind and defending myself. Stop your lying. You do not post to me with anything cogent in response to my posts. You cannot prove your allegations.

    I soubt you have all O’Donnells quotes… impossible, and you surely would not admit to the one I refer to. That’s OK, I can understand you being embarrassed to have to admit you are wrong.
    What was the point of introducing this extraneous blurb? “Christie called the Islamophobes crazy, and I am not an Islamophobe. I can’t see if you are or not, but you’re a Beckerhead and that’s psychotic enough. You put the pecker in Beckerhead” ? This does dhow your mental state though.
    Apparently you do follow me around. You just posted to a comment I made.
    It is obvious from your post that you are flaming me. You are attacking me and often being vile.
    If you can’t accept my source I don’t really give a crap – you are obsessed with it and I refuse to divulge my friends identity.
    If you are so easily intimidated about people having your mailing address you shouldn’t have made it public when you registered your website and other things you do on the web. You made it public.
    To quote you “So take your stupid, sleazy feces throwing style and shove it back up your ass. You’re so transparently a lying, flame warrior that only retards cannot see what you’re up to. How f#$king stupid do you have to be to think that you can get away with attacking me personally and then accusing me of “flaming?” Those are you words in the post you made to which I am relying. Your words, Victor.

    Victor, you are the one who is dedicated to attacking people who disagree with you and debunk your claims, dedicated to smearing, entrapment with your vile posts, flaming, degrading, slandering. You are the sleaze here.

  • Anonymous

    So, I guess you didn’t reread the post, did you?

    And Vicky33, it’s way more than 200-300. It’s in the range of 2000-3000 times.

    Since you didn’t respond to anything I said in the original post about the idea that you cannot predict the behavior of the conservatives, you loose, again!

    Vicky33, you’re such an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Vicky33, I cannot wait to hear what you think a cogent argument consists of. Please tell us Vicky33, what make an argument cogent.

    Go on Vicky33, give us a definition and an example. Maybe something from your vast collection of claims on your blog or in your comment history. And remember, I will check to see if you use another example from someone else.

    Please Vicky33, tell us what makes an argument cogent. I am begging you to extend yourself like this. Please tell us…

  • Anonymous

    Why does Vicky keep posting on forums that are a week old?

  • CarlosGian

    To be a true Democrat one must believe his is the one and only solution, that all who disagree are mentally inferior or evil.  The voices of the former must be ignored “for their own good”, and the voices of the latter must be demonized without regard for facts or truth.  As my grandfather was fond of saying about liberals, “You’ve gotta hand it to liberals.  They never let the facts interfere with their opnions!”

  • Anonymous

    To be a true Republican, one must believe that the Constitution is perfect, except for the parts where the Founders clearly state we are not a Christian nation.  One must love Jesus, except for the parts where he says you must deny greed and help the poor, and that allocation of extreme wealth is an inherent sin.  One must deny the scientific method and call into question all scientific learning.  One must deny facts, observable and otherwise, that abstinence only education breeds teenage pregnancies and VD or that guns do in fact cause more harm than good even in the hands of a gun owner.  One must accept that at any time in GOP politics, it is okay to demonize a racial group, from the Southern Strategy to the modern bigotry of anything associated with Islam.

    But most of all, to be a member of the GOP you need to misspell at least one word per post.

    Carlos, you’re an imbecile.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GP37RYDXXVUAI7XMCNRWM2G4W4 Fred

    Christie is right. No one has ever accused Jews or Christians of anything because of their religious beliefs. Nope, not once.

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