Great front face for the movement!

Was he ask about the death threats being emailed to politicians, protestors defecating on police cars, the racism and anti-semitism, and why some protestors have to be paid to show up?  I only ask, because whenever a TP was given a platform on a show, they were forced to account for everything seen at a TP rally. 

Silly you, this fabricated movement is allowed double standards than that of the TP because they say Fox News lies!

Can someone tell Jesse that we aren’t a Democracy, we are a Republic.  If he doesn’t like his representation, he can vote them out of office. 

That guy pooping on the NYC police car is the face of  the #OWS mob.

Consider me checked!

That is such a moronic argument. Straight from the drug-addled lips of Lard Limbaugh.

There are a variety of types of democratic governmental organization. The Swiss canton system which is participatory like our New England town hall tradition, a Constitutional monarchy with a Parliamentary democracy system, a republic, just to name a few. Democracy in the US is the vesting of power in the people who speak through representatives. A republic is merely an organizational means or model.

For the Love of the BVM, Michelle-in-Utah, educate yourself so that you can do something other than merely parrot the stinking, despicable drug addict and deviant Lard Limbaugh. As you are now, you’re too illiterate to contribute to our democratic process. We don’t need parrots. We need thinking men and women who put country before narrow ideology and self-interest. Until you can participate, please, for the sake of the nation, refrain from doing so.

All this does it re-enforce that the left has co-opped the OWS movement.Of course a left liberal would say that the movement wasn’t anti-government.The left is all about being pro-government because that’s their key doctrine,that government through use of revenue will solve all your problems cradle to grave.

OWS is about ineffective gridlock that is based on politicians of both parties looking out for themselves and for big business and any other source of money for them.anybody who claims differently doesn’t get it and is trying to use it for their own agenda.

Fact: LaGreca couldn’t give one complete answer to any question asked of him other than people with money needs to pass it to the ones who don’t have any! You could tell he was in it for the doughnuts in the waiting room!

Fact: Here’s one that had a union teacher that failed him in his education!

“he came across as well-spoken, smart, and level-headed,”

Is it possible you thought that because you’re a left winger who agrees with everything he said? To me, he sounded like a Democrat party took who was just repeating all the popular talking points. 

Fact: Mouth breather with that huh what look!

This is the real face of the flea party:  http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-smelly-occupy-wall-street-goons-admit-theyre-wanted-by-police/

Just can’t make this stuff up.

It’s a legitimate movement, they have a right to protest and they’re exercising it!

Well spoken and articulated Mr Jesse LeGreca.

Here is the face of the anti-Wall Street protest circus:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/08/article-2046586-0E481DB700000578-865_634x366.jpg

Yeah! Let them shut down the Brooklyn Bridge, too, you facists!

This is apparently what Mediaite thinks passes for challenging commentary:

Occupy Wall Street might eventually become more than just a
quasi-Woodstock for this generation, but they have to focus their
message. And with LaGreca’s calming presence, it might actually have a
fighting chance. (H/T Observer.com)

Hard-hitting stuff there, right?

The United States’ system of government is that of a two-tiered federalist representative republic, not a direct democracy.

Direct democracy is mob rule.

Learn it. Live it. Love it.

Thanks for proving his point to come back with some mindless insult instead of a coherent argument. Why don’t you make yourself useful, and shut up, the grown ups are trying to have a conversation, and until you learn you cannot participate.

I responded to RRE’s insult-cum-lack-of-an-argument with a fact that neither he nor you can refute.

‘Yeah! Let them shut down the Brooklyn Bridge, too, you facists!’ (Fascists)

Exercising right to demonstrate = Fascism?!?

I take it you disapprove?

…well, that is your right in the Land of the Free & Home of the Brave!

Oh come on Nano….don’t you know when you’re being played….?
That was nothing more than a propaganda stage play to sanitize the movement into something it is not.
Completely rehearsed.
Not one critical question.
Fer crissakes Armanpour looked like she wanted to give the guy a lap dance.
When is she going to interview Lotion Man….?

Finding one fleabagger that has showered in the last few days must have been tough for abc.  Can’t say I am surprised by the kos kiddie wanting money for doing nothing. 

On Sunday, LaGreca appeared on ABC’s This Week to talk about the
protests, and–agree with his point of view or not–he came across as
well-spoken, smart, and level-headed, which seems to be an outlier from
the blanket media coverage of an OWS supposedly littered with
uninformed, anarchist, silly sign-holding masses.

Wow you people call yourselves “journalists”???

These guys are being bought and paid for to speak on behalf of the astroturfers.

The headline strongly suggests that the position entails getting paid
to protest, since the headline stresses that the job will hold
“Wallstreet [sic] accountable now” and that the new hire will make a
“differnence [sic]” and “get paid.”  The body of the ad doesn’t specify
what the duties of the position will be, although it does stress that
it’s not going to be a job that involves complicated policy formation,
or presumably proofreading:

You must be an energetic
communicator, with a passion for social and economic justice.  Only
outgoing, articulate dedicated, determined candidates will be considered
for the positions.
For those candidates that
qualify WFP offers substantial paid-training provided by senior
leadership, on varied issues such as: advocacy, public speaking,
mobilizing, fundraising, networking and organizing. We invest in
passionate people with excellent communication skills and a full
benefits package is offered to those candidates that qualify. In
addition, there is opportunity for advancement and travel to our
satellite chapters and out of state affiliates.
This is not a policy job! Through direct action you will be shaping NY state politics for the next 20 years.

“Direct action” usually
means protesting.  In other words, WFP wants Astroturfers, presumably to
join other Astroturfers who tire of their career at Wall Street in the
coming days.  I wonder how many of those currently at the #OWS protests
are already drawing a salary from WFP?

Check out the Craigslist ad for the astroturfers!

H/T Hot Air…http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/10/political-party-paying-occupy-wall-street-protesters/

Don’t assume that everyone is as much a hyper-partisan ideological zealot as you. I thought Ari Fleischer was well-spoken, smart and level-headed although I didn’t agree with anything he ever said. I think Mr. LaGreca is well-spoken, smart and level-headed and I agree with much of what he said. Not everything is partisan, nor is it ideological, Drone-On-and-On.

And yet there is no point, yeah its a republic, thanks. What is your point??? How is that even relevant???

Someone call the cops !!  Joeshmoe is being held captive at gunpoint and being forced to read Just4fax’s comments !!

Imagine that, he’s clean and articulate. He’s got the other thing going for him to: He’s bought and paid for.

America is a democracy and a republic. It is a unique form of a republic by democratic vote..early forms of a republic gov’t. allowed only the elite to cast a vote. We may have started as a true republic allowing only white male land owners to vote but we got our act together.

Jesse LaGreca, aka “Cheesy LaGrease”…isn’t he one of Soros’s tumble-bugs?

Priscilla Grim is the face of this movement. Go Grim!

http://gothamist.com/

The Real Royal Emperor

A totally pointless, non-substantive post that does nothing to advance the national dialogue. Please, when you have nothing to offer, just don’t post.

The Emperor Is Not Partisan And Likes Republican Men !!

Mr. LaGreca’s take-down of the Fox newser was epic, sad the fair and balanced folks did not see fit to include it in their coverage.  Those on the right who seek to minimize his message do so at their own peril.  Just because OWS is not backed by Freedom Works, Americans for Prosperity(the Koch brothers)and promoted around the clock on Fox news like the tea-party, does not mean they’re not relevant.  Their message is relevant and their movement growing despite the attacks by the bank sponsored NYPD and the corporate media.
Do you remember when your parents would ask, “is everyone else wrong and only you are right?”  Well, in this case the 99% are right and the 1% and their supporters are wrong.

OWS Protestors = Exercising Right To Protest !!

Tea Party Protestors = Stupid, Racist, Bigoted Homophobes Who Spit On Black People !!

Republicans are threatened by any intelligent person, by all truth, by decency in any form.

This is now called the Pee party! 

From the smells and trash these people are leaving behind! Groups of businesses and residents are now coming out talking about the filth and urine smelled streets they have now from these protesters!…Yeah this is President Zero’s group alright!

Hey Jesse, instead of railing against FOX, which you obviously never watch; how about asking how far the Obama CORRUPTION goes?

1. Fast & Furious – What did the Lying HOLDER know, and why did he not trace the 1000′s of guns?

2. How many other taxpaeyr-giveaways are there like Solyndra?

3. What else is in Dodd-Frank (2 people responsible for the 2008 meltdown!) that’ll stifle jobs?

4. Ditto the lol “Transparent” lol Obamacare Takeover!!

How far does the Chicago Community-Organizer’s Corruption Go?

True..I’ll wager he breaths by mouth on occasion and has a “huh” look because, as he said, he is just a working class man on TV for the first time. You nailed it.

His thing about being the only working class person on Sunday news shows suddenly made her uncomfortable, and you can hear someone else there snicker too.  She makes a pat statement in defense and then throws the attention to the group at the table and Krugman. 

Kinda odd they’ve been going less than a month and suddenly the question is a pointed, “Okay, whadaya want?”  Tell me that ain’t Wall Street doing the asking.

You don’t have a right to shut down a public bridge or road, you moron. Yes, I do disapprove of you shutting down roads and bridges. And so do EMTs who need to rush patients to the hospital over those roadways.

Time, place, and manner.

Google it.

 Do you know what ‘fact’ means. Fact: that is an opinion.

He’s white, as are most of the participants. Is this a white movement or something?

Gotta ask, cause the left asked this of the tea party.

What’s the problem? Can’t take what you dish out?

Jesse’s like a breath of fresh air and common sense.Hopefully he won’t turn into a Joe the Plumber kind of creep, and the OWS movement won’t turn into a dreadful instrument of one political party (like it happened with the Tea Party flying circus.) 

‘Tea Party Protestors = Stupid, Racist, Bigoted Homophobes Who Spit On Black People !!’

Not necessarily, but the n it’s hard to argue with placards contesting President Obama’s parentage, birthplace, lineage and then some rather more unsavory use of language. 

Then of course the anti President Obama advertising, that can be misconstrued as racist. I imagine Herman Cain will just call it ‘Insensitive.’

http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/obama-racist-latest.jpg

Can we have a ‘Drink?’

Why are you such a hater? Why can’t you address what this guy says and stop reposting garbage from right wing sites? Don’t you have any balls or are you simply going to let corporate tools like Michelle Malkin speak for you?

Direct democracy is not necessarily mob rule, but we’re certainly not adequately informed nor disciplined as a people to have direct democracy. Other than that, I agree with your point. It was very well-stated. A very refreshing and most welcome change from the idiots who go around lip syncing “America is a republic not a democracy.” I appreciate the care with which you articulated this understanding of American democracy. 

I thought nicknames were used by kids.  I can always can count on a good laugh from all the blow hards who like to hear themselves speak.  Arguing on the intenret is like……….

Let’s pull up some of Jesse’s & this guy’s posts about the TEA PARTY!

Let’s see how tolerant they are when the views AREN’T THEIRS!

Now you’ve got it!

Actually you’re the moron.

At no point in my reply did I agree with shutting or obstructing public bridges or roads. 

I would suggest you read my reply without the blinkers.

This is your movement summed up in a photo:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/08/article-2046586-0E481DB700000578-865_634x366.jpg

Embrace it. It’s a microcosm of what the orgy of leftwing collectivism in the last four decades is doing to our country.

Fact: I’m an unemployable teatard and yet I’m enough of a douchebag to actually criticize a hardworking, middle class guy who is a hundred times more articulate than I am for speaking out on important issues! It’ a fact!

Exactly.  Also when asked for a specific plan or solution for what he is complaining about, he said that that wasn’t his job.  He said his job was simply to point out the problem.  

Not a very adult way of dealing with very serious issues.

DailyKos blogger? That’s all ya needed to say to show he is a whack job.

Exercising right to demonstrate = Fascism?!?

I take it you disapprove?

Shutting down the Brooklyn Bridge =/= “exercising your right to demonstrate.”

The NYPD made over 700 arrests of your buddies out there for doing that, suggesting that yes, JohnJGuy, it is in fact ILLEGAL and not “exercising your right to demonstrate” to block a bridge.

And I should know from pointless, non-substantive posts, since I’ve posted thousands of them here at Mediaite!

I’m as dumb as a post and take my marching orders from Faux News, and yet I still pretend that I know WTF I’m talking about. And people like Michelle and Pablo and the Bad Lt fall for it.

‘…This is your movement!’

Congratulations.

…That’s very funny.

At least he can read. 

I think a good amount of the content is thought-provoking; of course, if you have nothing to contribute, that may explain your derision.

Fact: I’m a mouth breather myself, so I need to call others that as a way to deflect criticism of myself! It’s a fact!

This guy supports people who do not believe in capitalism, and supports those that think they want to destroy it. I don’t like the alternative to capitalism. Every major war this country has fought has been against the very economic systems that these fools think they want. Extrapolate that out as far as your ability will allow. They believe in a system whose adherents gave us the term USEFUL IDIOTS. There is your clue.

Why do we have this foreigner on such an influential program?  ALUMINIUM????  Come off it.

‘The NYPD made over 700 arrests of your buddies out there for doing that…’

…My buddies?

I’m afraid you’re going to be disappointed to know, that I don’t actually know any of the 700 who are exercising their right to demonstrate and be arrested.

Although, I have have taken many a picture of the bridge.

…It is lovely isn’t it!

I’m one of the crassest, ugliest and most ignored commenters on this site. I have nothing of value to offer and vomit out post after post after post of vile, hate-filled insults.

I call people I don’t like “libbies” and “whack jobs” and “loons” because I can’t think of anything even remotely literate or intelligent to say. Just watch me! I’ll keep doing it because I’m a compulsive jerk with no day job and no self-control. And the vocabulary of a twelve year old.

I wish I didn’t live in such a pathetic one-dimensional world.

Jesse LaGrece obviously hates America. His inability to coddle corporations and make sure they have the power to do whatever they want shows his ignorance and stupidity. Working class people are too stupid to become rich, so they want government to help him. Corporations deserve government bailouts and tax breaks. The working class don’t deserve such favors.

Talk about an uneducated lib- you can call us a representative democracy, but at the end of the day, the USA is a republic.  You don’t think so? Why does Article 44 Section Four of the US Constitution state:

Article 4 – The StatesSection 4 – Republican Government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.”

man, your ignorance is astounding!

I struck a nerve!

BTW, I an so glad that a benighted lib is so afraid of yours truly that he would name  itself after me.

Go play with your toys, trog!

FNC is combing through hours of OWS footage and pulling out the one idiot who peed in a bush.
Meanwhile, MSNBC combed through hours of Tea Party footage and pulled out the one idiot who said “Obama…the new face of Hitler.” 

So, it’s a race to the bottom. Do you feel smart and informed?

He is and it has.

Next!

Peggy Noonan is an idiot. She’s trying the ole “charmin’ the pants off-a the opponents” Palin-style commentary. Very folksy and riveting indeed. People are shopping at Wal-Mart to save money?!?!? Oh my GOD! When this this start? Maybe when Walmart started undercutting every other business in America to offer the lowest prices to people who mysteriously started needed them more and more as the class gap increased! 

the media and the politicians serve the interests of the rich and powerful

everyone else is embodied in OWS, and for the time, this man, jesse lagreca…..

now, we need elizabeth warren to run for president.  

Did I address your garbage thoroughly enough without “reposting”? Are you asking me about my balls because you want them on your chin? My wife is much too hot for my balls to be anywhere near your chin. Unlike the punk you so adore in the video, Michelle Malkin makes no excuses for her country, and is appreciative of the opportunity America has made for her and her family. Notice she is not a white privileged punk and tool. Useful idiot.

Check out the 17th Amendment. It tipped the scales from Federal republic to a democratic one by allowing states to vote for Senators..prior to this they were appointed.

As long as she keeps her clothes on.

Michelle Obama must still have plenty of money then, since she allegedly shops at Target.

Stonedork’s brain is not as big as microscopic.

I love it when libs rail against their very own tactics.  It’s pure gold.

Senators do not decide the kind of govt. states will have – the Constitution does.

yeah, he should have walked out half way through

Hey, at least Obama’s not waterboarding innocent brown men . . . he’s droning them and anybody nearby.

That’s precisely why Republicans are NOT threatened by Democrats/Liberals.

What’s his job, jelliebean?

Yeah. His advocating abolishing and replacing our current capitalist system with _______ is a great idea.

Truly a visionary.

I forgot to add they were appoionted by representatives that were voted in by land owning white men.

Speak for yourself.

God, you must be a pitifully bankrupt lib who has absolutely nothing to say.

Here’s the CORRECT EXPLANATION for revolting occupiers of Wall Street:

It’s a violent, unlawful, hate-filled bunch of anti-semitic lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist slugs, slackers, deadbeats, liars, freeloaders, losers, taxpayer-leeches, cheats, ILLEGALS and potheads that want EVERYTHING created and earned by hard working, responsible, self-reliant American taxpayers to be given to them.

Now, isn’t that “the American way”? (or is that “the Greek socialist way”?)

The monster created by Dr. Frankenstein rejected and overwhelmed him. Similarly, the anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-Semitic monster of slugs, slackers, deadbeats, liars, freeloaders, losers, taxpayer-leeches, cheats, ILLEGALS and potheads created by the lunatic-left d-cRAT socialists are rejecting and overwhelming them.  Let’s not forget the words of the monster to Dr. Frankenstein:  “You are my creator, but I am your master. Obey!” – and the lunatic-left will do just that.

Look folks, the little socialist from SF! With her cushy lifestyle advocating from her McMansion for the little people. How Peloskiesque!

Good- I like land owners- you I guess don’t like anyone who is more successful than you are.

Not surprised!

My point was that the republic wasn’t representative until the states were allowed to elect a senator by vote…sorry if I was obtuse. 
On a side note I never suggested that senators decide the kind of gov’t. a state will have.

Another face of the occupy movement.   Occupy DC protestors maced trying to breaking into Smithsonian air & space museum.  Why?  The drone exhibit…  I guess when you’re message is a lumping of all liberal causes, weird stuff happens.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/10/air-and-space-museum-closed-after-guards-mace-protesters-67636.html

Wow another cutesy name for someone they only wish they could be. I see that wee baby D has given you a thumbs up. Wee baby D pays me homage every day she shows up. Thank you WBD! I’m flattered! AND still here. LOL. Hey look mediaite is too…despite you.

WAY TO GO STONEPARK3! LO f’nL!

I guess we both have two wannabees! Cheers!

Glad to see you agree that he’s like a breath of fresh air ;)

“cushy” =  8 x 10ft bedroom in shared, work/trade house, on a middle class salary, 
paltry benefits, no car (ever)

yeah, real, real cushy
       

You talkin’ to blueblogger, wee baby D, and Stonepark3s_microscopicBrain? Guest??? LOL. Is that your last name? No capital letter? Cute!

I’ll give you a chance to catch Your breath; I caught it and it was murder!

the tea party (you know, the original tea party) was unlawful and violent

Wow, I was right; you ARE a loser.

ha-ha, that’s reallllllllllly funny trudat.  spoken like lenny bruce.  genius.

i’m gonna spend my entire monday reflecting on the depth of your comedic critique

Thank Obama for that!

OWS supporters all voted for Obama and like good little followers, they will do as their leader does, blame something or someone else for the mess.

i am

just4thefax you are a scholar and a gentleman. You contribute greatly to the political discourse. I hope your parents are proud of you. 

for every soft-spoken progressive on this site, there are 25+ angry conservatives

it’s getting really, really annoying, and you haven’t noticed, i haven’t been spending 
too much time here as of late…..

hey, the more the merrier! It a badge of honor and shows we are winning.

Yes, we have noticed…and thank you !!

WINNING!

You’d be better served by reflecting on my comedic critique than by your comedic Obama administration.

Sorry to hear that Darla…

Was it something we said???

As far as I know Lt. he is a freelance writer. You should ask someone more familiar with him about his resume.  

“for every soft-spoken progressive on this site, there are 25+ angry conservatives”

Really? Soft spoken libs who say:

“That is such a moronic argument. Straight from the drug-addled lips of Lard Limbaugh.”

“‘Tea Party Protestors = Stupid, Racist, Bigoted Homophobes Who Spit On Black People !!’

Yeah, that is really soft spoken, Darloon!

Update: And this “soft-spoken” gem from our lib gal , Darloon:

“btw, why are you such a childish dick, stonepark?”

Winning!

i make $50,000 at a good job, that i’ll never lose, which is about 5 blocks away

our house/commune is enormous, with plenty of common areas, gigantic
kitchen, organic garden, art studio, dry sauna, hot tub, solar panels, wi-fi

we have some of the best parties/gatherings west of the mississippi, and 
i have famous friends in high places, thank you.  

my power bill is almost non-existent.  

hardly losing, especially considering i pay 1976-era rent in a city
with the 2nd highest rents in the country.  

1913 was a bad year for the Constitution. However, Utah did not vote on the 17th Amendment. Technically that makes the 17th Amendment invalid under article 5 of the Constitution…equal suffrage by the states…don’t tell that to a liberal.

so you don’t find the drone exhibit even slightly offensive and wrong?

It’s not too late for her to run a primary race against Barry !!!

it’s not hard to win when you outnumber the opposition 20-1

btw, why are you such a childish dick, stonepark?

cushy lol

so was the founding of this country

you always change the subject to obama, trudat

in case you haven’t noticed, i’m not a fan of obama, and i would rather
someone like elizabeth warren be our president

nice try, though

You don’t understand the difference between form and function. No problem. It’s not like you have anything to contribute to our democracy anyway, Nutsofast. Have a super day and a better tomorrow.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . . we’re not supposed to know that the lefties are hypocrites!

obama was a child when i found my house/job

Ask your hero, the King of Drone KILLING, Barrack Hussein Obama.

thanks for proving my point, everybody!

Love how you libbies twist the story to suit your argument du jour.

I struck another nerve in hateful darloon!

Wow darloon, you were saying something about “soft-spoken” libs?

LOL

So you are talking about yesterday?

LOL You disproved your point dear?

You said:”"btw, why are you such a childish dick, stonepark?”

Is that your idea of “soft-spoken” libs?

LOL

the meme that the tea party was better organized than OWS?

sorry, folks

these people are organized, and have no voice in the media:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/10/occupywallstreet-right-he_n_1003264.html

like i said, the ORIGINAL TEA PARTY was unlawful and violent

god you’re dumb

They were voted in by the legislators sent to office on behalf of the VOTERS. All MALE voters. The 15th Amendment was ratified in 1870. Try again. But do you have any idea of why only landowners were allowed to vote during one period in America?

every single thread on this site starts like this:

1.  progressive makes interesting point about commentary

2.  conservative ignores point and insults progressive

3.  progressive insults conservative in retaliation

4.  repeat 2 and 3

So was the original American Revolution, dear.

I’m the only person who could take a scathing, dead-on analysis of my hateful, idiotic posts and take it as a compliment! That shows what a shallow moron I really am!

i am sorry, i thought you were trying to make a point

darloon:

“:”"btw, why are you such a childish dick, stonepark?”

“god you’re dumb”

You are so, so “Soft-spoken”, dear! 

You lose again. You are nothing and it show.

“No voice in the media” . . . then puts a link to the media giving them voice.

Are liberals aware of their stupidity?  Is it an act?

I’ve read the arguments. Good points on both sides. 10 states opposed the ratification yet here we are almost 100 years later. Try telling state voters they just got their US senate vote taken away from them. 
 

Liberals are incapable of recognizing their inherent hypocricy.

You should get right on it.Enlighten us.

Darladoon, take their blind hatred as a badge of courage. When you see their posts — and mostly I ignore them — you realize that mentally they’ve gone backwards several million years. Conservatives used to boast actual thinkers like William F. Buckley. Now their intellect hovers somewhere around the protozoan bleats of stonepark3.

These people are being paid to protest. Minimum wage.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/gov/2618821815.html

We call that ASTROTURF in the real world.

How’s it taste?

teenager maybe, a child no

norbit—

do you think derivatives should be regulated?

And then there’s a lot of people like you, who make the whole thing up and just play victim. Your first problem is your first assumption: “progressive says something interesting”.

Because, if you noticed, you didn’t discuss the article, and you’re the one who took a shot at conservatives.

What really happens is this:

1) progressive regurgitates decades-old talking point that was refuted years back.
2) conservatives points this out and makes fun of the Progressive.
3) Progressive whines and complains and plays victim, rather than get a clue and try again.
4) repeat 1-3

and you support that?  

Oh soft-spoken one.  Are you refuting the claim that Obama is the King of Droning? 

Water in the face = BAD; Droning innocents = GOOD.

That, my friends, is Liberal Logic.

follow the thread, cjdohio

he said OWS was “unlawful and violent”

and pointed out that so was the original tea party

We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic!! Educate yourself on the difference!

it’s “hypocrisy” not “hypocricy”

yup

Ooops, a little bit of fact upsets liberals.  Be careful!

that was some random guy’s video….

Says the Michael Moore wannabe!

the vast majority of people are not getting paid, dude

and craigslist is not “astroturf”

1.  progressive makes interesting point about commentary

That would require an interesting point to be made. What we get here are regurgitated DNC talking points and spin, which are not to be confused with “interesting points.”

2.  conservative ignores point and insults progressive

See response 1: A point has to be made in order for it to be responded to. Progressives don’t actually have a point to make, as we see by these vapid, meaningless protests.

3.  progressive insults conservative in retaliation

Poor baby. You’re practically forced to respond.

4.  repeat 2 and 3

See response 1 before progressing.

If only we could find some heavy-weight intellectuals like Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chris Matthews, Ed Schultz, et. al.  You’re a joke, dude.

The Tea Party was not better organized; they were a spontaneous, organic, disorganized movement based on individuals. The Occupiers have been planning this for months with all kinds of logistical support from the usual suspects MoveOn, Organizing For America, Code Pink, Van Jones, etc… supplied muscle from SEIU and AFL-CIO…. and healthy checks from Soros and the Tides foundation.

Of course you’re more organized… astroturf is always more organized than real grass.

BINGO!

Shhhhh. Soft-spoken, Darla.

He wasn’t insulting you – he was insulting the President, which to you was a national sport from 2000-2008.

No need to take it personally. Obama isn’t you. Right?

No, craigslist is not astrofturf… but advertising for protestors as paid positions in the jobs section on craigslist is. God, it’s so astroturf, the plastic’s still warm.

They’re both from the same socialist mold.  No thinking person wants either one of them anywhere near the White House.

question:  do you support drone strikes?

or are you a radical hippie like myself?  

who’s side are you on?

That’s because they were fighting a tyrannical king (government) who was violating their rights by force.

The modern tea party is resisting the government, not the private sector.

The OWS fools are doing the opposite. They’re not fighting an oppressive government – they’re fighting an invisible straw man you call “rrrrwwwaarrr corporate greed.”

“national sport”  =  ”democrats gave bush everything he wanted”

Nope, but apparently all the lefties who bitched and moaned about Bush, and are now silent, do.

The Tea Party hasn’t indicated any united, single message save for its disapproval of big government. Occupy Wall Street hasn’t indicated any united, single message save for its disapproval of big business and a complicit government.

The Tea Party showed that some Americans were pissed. Occupy brings about attention to the other disgruntled Americans.  While I’m sure that conservatives and Republicans would love to take credit for Obama’s disapproval ratings, they’re not alone. Plenty of liberals and Democrats are unhappy with how Obama has handled the last three years, but not for the same reason the Tea Party thinks. This is that other voice. 

Occupy will be attacked by its opponents the same way the Tea Party was. It’s members will be delegitimized, it’s message will be mocked and unfortunate photos will be copy+pasted to no end. That’s fine. That’s how democracy works now with the Internet. But no one ignored the Tea Party because the Tea Party wouldn’t let it happen. Occupy may do the same. It might not.

But ignore them and their message at your own risk, because mobilizing a couple thousand people to air conditioned voting booths sounds a hell of a lot easier than mobilizing them to a smelly hippie park or noontime marches.

those are politicians, not intellectuals

shall i give you a list of liberal intellectuals?

no i thought you were making a point about his comment above, but i notice you only pick and choose the parts you want to address, not his whole statement

OMG George Soros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, Darloon, from the HP also:

Obama’s Jobs Advisors Include Job-Cutting Executives

“Just days before the president appointed Kenneth I. Chenault, chairman and chief executive of American Express, to the council, the company announced a massive restructuring that closed a facility in North Carolina and eliminated 550 jobs, or about 1% of the company’s workforce. At the same time, American Express announced it had made $1.1 billion in the fourth quarter of 2010, up 48% from the same period the previous year.”

American Express? MG- doesn’t he know AE ripped off our people? OWS is protesting against companies like AE!

Figures you’re well versed on the spelling.

hiring skilled minimum wage activist labor is hardly astroturf
if you’ve ever done stressful activist work, you’d know

astroturf is more like the koch brothers…..freedomworks, americans for prosperity, et al

Republic = A political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them.

“Direct Democracy” is mob rule! Why the hell do you think we have a Republican form of government?!

there’s no comparison between the tea party and OWS.

no comparision

even conservative pundits are admitting that this is actually an organic uprising

the occupiers have been planning this for months, but not with the support
of the groups you mentioned until much, much later.  

and you think code pink is well-financed and muscular??

you’re clueless.  

Sure, it never counts when it’s liberal groups doing the funding and organizing; that’s different doncha know.

hiring skilled minimum wage activist labor ”

LOL

That is so, so funny- hiring professional activists is not astroturf, eh?

PS…I do know why only white male landowners were allowed to vote. It was thought that these land owners were better educated and therefore were better equipped to make decisions for everyone else.

 and OWS has a right to lawfully protest

What I showed – quite effectively – was that leftwing political groups like Working Families Party are actually paying people to show up and yell at these “spontaneous” protests. That’s not grasroots. That’s called ASTROTURF.

Square that circle, darla. Your compatriots urinating in public out there are having a difficult time doing it.

Safely ensconced in her gated community throwing the best parties this side of the Mississippi, sticking up for the little guy, the disenfranchised of America, behind her corporate built computer chips, corporate built solar panels for her kumbayah lifestyle that the bank is financing along with her mortgage, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOf’nL! Wait? Living in luxury with the force of government imposed rent control??? Wow depriving the owner of the actual value of his land? Nice! Wow government handouts are so good for Darla, that she wants them for everyone??? How sweet, Darla! And how much do you give to charity after all the government handouts???

I’m quite sure I can provide a list of conservative intellectuals to match.  Let’s not waste our time.

Yes government controlled rent control means you don’t need to earn more than 50k in cushy SF, huh? 50 k after 30 years? LOL. Not very greedy while living on the taxpayer dime, huh, Darla? Wow.

all the lefties support drone attacks?

and yet you JUST POINTED OUT the protest at the air&space museum….

lol

obama is a socialist?

evidence to support that claim, please.

and can you also define socialism, so we know where you’re coming from.  

“Freelance writer.” Yeah. One step removed from a coal miner or construction worker.

That’s not “working class.”

His “work” is “working the system.”

Yep and the owner of your squatting scam could actually make money if you weren’t relying on 1976 rent control while throwing the best parties this side of the Mississippi, huh?

That is just because the fleabaggers are too lazy to shower or perform actual work.  Keeping cheering on the flea party, it will make you morons lose even more elections.

gated community?  the door is unlocked 24/7.  

give to charity?

i am charity, dude

that’s my profession

they are fighting both:  the government and the private sector

so why the enormous police presence and evidence of police brutality

clearly they are breaking some laws, cjd

you can’t have it both ways

the entire point of political disobedience is to break some laws and 
destroy private property. 

And you have so much evidence that you’ll post soon, right? Unlawful, how? Violent when? Maybe they don’t want to subsidize your rent controlled property you’ve squatted on since 1976?

Darladoon: i make $50,000 at a good job, that i’ll never lose, which is about 5 blocks away

our house/commune is enormous, with plenty of common areas, gigantic
kitchen, organic garden, art studio, dry sauna, hot tub, solar panels, wi-fi

we have some of the best parties/gatherings west of the mississippi, and 
i have famous friends in high places, thank you.  

my power bill is almost non-existent.  

hardly losing, especially considering i pay 1976-era rent in a city
with the 2nd highest rents in the country. 

Platitudes and generalities is a well spoken means of avoiding the substance of the issue. He said nothing!!

show me evidence of the number of paid activists at OWS who 
otherwise wouldn’t have attended.

give me a figure.  

ok, whatever

They lost and lost and lost after week and weeks and weeks of protesting in Madison WI and stinking up the Capital.

Utah did not vote. The Amendment is invalid under Article 5.

You forgot Acorn.

And the Girl Guides.

And the New Black Panthers,Peta,and the vegans.Can’t forget the vegans.Oh and people that wear Birkenstocks..

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the point is to destroy property, wow you are a nut

That was for Mr. Robinson

As soon as you show figures indicating me who is there is not being paid. So far, we have evidence to suggest that participants are being paid.

You forgot Acorn.

And the Girl Guides.

And the New Black Panthers,Peta,and the vegans.Can’t forget the vegans.Oh and people that wear Birkenstocks..

lol, best line of the day darla, and who is paying these grassroot activist? lol

Disqus sucks.

Yes, that is the leftnutjob train of thought. I get that. Land owners were more traceable, and the fruits of their labors could be seen as an investment. No one had identification numbers
then, no social security, drivers licenses, library cards, ACORN. There were many people living in the newly founded country
who: 1. Did not want citizenship 2.  Wanted the country to fail and their country of origin to succeed that much more. 3. Were
not considered credible as to their allegiance to America. Many had accents and customs that were not known or trusted as being America’s, which is not bad if you want to establish a governing body, is it? America had many newcomers from every country and walk of life. How to determine who had a vested interest in the fledgling country? Land ownership provided a record and could be accessed and used to determine who had an interest in the newly formed country. What a concept, huh?

the owner is a long-time friend of mine

man, you are burying yourself deeper and deeper

go away, or i flag you

it’s not a squat if i pay rent

destruction of private property does serve a purpose, yes

the original tea party did just that

were they nuts?

again, evidence of the % of paid activists at OWS

nobody seems to have any

but they sure have plenty of copy n’ paste nonsense from malkin’s blog

i never made the argument that activists were being paid at OWS

you did.

so……..SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE OF THE % OF PAID LABOR AT OWS

thank you

You don’t like testicles on your chin?

disqus hates people that use countless sock puppets so stop doing it

Fact: Real news source you using there loony bird!

Someone rich enough to take 1976 rent in 2011. LOL. Nice. Tell us more. Flag away while you’re at it. Throw a fit and stage a protest. 1976 rent in 2011 in SAN FRANCISCO? Must be nice. And you guys call us teabaggers. LOL!

Rent control. n. n.
Governmental control and regulation of the amounts charged for rented housing. State and local government regulation restricting the amount of rent
landlords can charge their tenants. Rent control is used to regulate the
quality of rental dwellings, with controls implemented only against
those units that do not conform to building codes, as in New York City;
or used across the board to deal with high rents resulting from a gross
imbalance between housing supply and demand, as in Massachusetts and
California. If a landlord violates rent control laws, the tenant may
protest at the local housing authority charged with enforcing the law.
While tenants may like rent control, landlords argue that it reduces
their ability to earn a profit on their property, thereby discouraging
them from investing
any further to maintain or upgrade the property. In some cases,
landlords argue that rent control encourages owners to abandon their
property altogether since it will never be profitable to retain it.

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/rent-control#ixzz1aPGHBkxZ

Fact: Paid is paid no matter one, ten or fifty. Give me some money and a sign whoohooo……….

Guess we will never know BALL HOG

Fact: I’ll show you hate and you will have SEIU at your back with signs that cry for more!

Fact: Mao, Che and Castro and a few other liberal intellects!

Fact: I love American Military Might!

Fact: Even back then Tea Party said piss off to taxes!

You see teabaggers, us OWS patriots aren’t a bunch of uncivil, anti-American Commies, Marxists and dirty Hippies!

We’re DailyKos diarists!

Fact: No it’s a fact! just4thefax fact checked and certified!

 This is the list of Faux News approved fake outrages. Well done!

Since when do you believe what “conservative pundits” think?

At the end of the day, this movement, while certainly is legitimate grass roots movement and people are finally standing up and saying that things must change.  Unfortunately, change comes through the voting process, and if you cant get your people to the polls, and you cant agree as to who you want elected.  Then IN THE END….none of this matters too much.

See — just like I told you!

I continue to post insane, off-top drivel in the hope that the other idiot teatards will high five me! And they have! Just like good little comrades!

I have a microscopic brain, a heart filled with hate and a vocabulary worthy of a reform school dropout.

I’m the most pathetic commenter here and very proud of it.

If there was just ONE thing they could change, what would that be….and I don’t mean some wide cast net statement like, “stop corporate greed”.

I think they should form as a block and demand the repeal of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, and have the Glass -Stegall act put back into law.

This would bust up the mega banks which the Gramm act alowed to become a hybrid in combining a bank, investment bank, and insurance company all under one roof.  That is exactly what caused the market crash in 1929, and why FDR got the Glass-Stegall act passed.  And for 60-70 years after that, we didn’t have these issues.  Once Glass-Stegall was gone…….Just ten years later…..look what has happened.

And it willl likely happen again and again until Glass Stegall is put back in place.

Do you know what the real irony is?  The argument at the time for repealing Glass – Stegall was that it was outdated, and it made it hard for American financial institutions to compete with the banks in Europe.

Funny, we want to be like Europe for the wrong reasons, and we don’t want to be like Europe for the right reasons.

Bottom line, shout it to the mountains and everywhere you go… REINSTATE THE GLASS-STEGALL ACT.

“Death threats to politicians”; “protestors defacating on police cars” – you have to be joking.  I was down there last week and considering the number of police surrounding the park, I very much doubt anyone would get within spitting distance of a cruiser, let along use it as a toilet.  Does it somehow make you feel more important to make up these lies – or is someone paying you to do it?

he’s a writer, or is that not good enough for you.

the destruction of random property, yes thats nuts

Fabricated? You really don’t get you, you and your little girlfriend, you both have your heads so far in the sand you can probably see china.  This is a TRUE grassroots movement, unlike the fabricated TEABAGGERS … oops, I mean Tea Party movement that we all know is funded by the Koch Brothers and others like Grover Norquist.  Just the fact that you’re giving it so much attention must mean it’s getting to you. ROTFLMAO!

I’m wondering what you find threatening enough about Jesse, that you have to make childish comments about him.   Your mama dresses you funny and your short and your bald….does that make you feel better.  I wonder how many times you got beaten up on the playground in third grade, and now the rest of the world has to pay for it.   This is about something bigger than your petty and ignorant persepctive.

What is your point?

oscar_leroy TbagsRstupid same loser

Please, these are obviously astroturf…. as evidenced by the fact that most Glenn Beck watchers knew about these protests months before they happened. If Glenn Beck can show us Tides Foundation videos of the training seminars last year… then either Beck’s a genius, or you’ve been had.

So which is it?

…and besides, the tea party never put up ads like this:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/gov/2618821815.html

A-S-T-R-O-T-U-R-F

*** Can you find anything wrong with a fledgeling country wanting to know that it’s voters wanted the country to thrive and succeed?***Of course not. I just don’t think that allowing only rich white men to vote was the way to success and judging from history I am right.

i give you credit darla, you support violence if it serves YOUR purpose

Unfortunately, I don’t think the voting process is going to change much. Both sides take their fair share of kickbacks from the lobbyists. Maybe the Republicans get better deals but both sides do it. That also has to end IMO

Very intelligent. More than the whole Fox News propagandists.  Well, I guess that’s not saying much. Smart guy.

Funny, the Right had thousands of tea parties; not one required a craiglsist ad offering employment. Highly skilled minimum wage activist labor is EXACTLY astroturf. Only astroturf requires “highly skilled minimum wage activists”. And only the Left seeks it. Because the Left has perfected the astroturf production process.

A-S-T-R-O-T-U-R-F

Excellent post Nando.

Ziiiiiing!  Well put. 

Unscripted, well-thought out comentary from Jesse — we have our own Joe the Plumber — but ours is articulate, smart and able to speak coherently as he makes the points for the rest of us.
Fox news decided not to air this video – could it be because he  criticized Fox News?
I hope we hear more from this man – this average American who represents so many.

Rich white men wrote the Declaration of Independence. Can you point to a similar document written by any man or men of color? Not proud of your country either? Anyone from any country should have been allowed to vote? Really? How to determine their fealty to a fledgling nation again?

Wee baby D! Keepin that chin warm for oscar, are ya?

That your protesters are such a smash hit that they have to be paid to show their devotion to the “cause”. LOL. Wow, even tbag and blueblogger could figure that out.

Darladoon 1 hour ago in reply to NDanielson
it’s not a squat if i pay rent

Well, semantics LOL.

In the United States,
squatting laws vary from state to state and city to city. For the most
part, it is rarely tolerated to any degree for long, particularly in
cities. There have been a few exceptions, notably in 2002 when the New York
City administration agreed to turn over eleven squatted buildings in the
Lower East Side to an established non-profit group, on the condition
that the apartments would later be turned over to the tenants as
low-income housing cooperatives.