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Jon Stewart To Bill O’Reilly: ‘There Is A Selective Outrage Machine Here At Fox’

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Daily Show host Jon Stewart appeared on Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor tonight to debate the merits and career of rapper Common with host Bill O’Reilly. Stewart had been invited on the show last week after he had delivered what some had described as a pretty epic take down of the alleged controversy surrounding the performance by the Chicago-based rapper at the White House last week.

In O’Reilly’s eyes it seemed that the issue was a simple one: the President (or in this case First Lady Michelle Obama) should never have invited the controversial rapper to perform at the White House, because as he sees it, Common celebrates a convicted cop killer. As Stewart sees it though, the only reason that Common is considered a “controversial” rapper is because Fox News trumped up that narrative and repeated it on its opinion shows repeatedly (which happen to draw the most viewers on cable news by far.)

While being careful not to speak for the rapper, Stewart redefined Common as someone that wasn’t celebrating the killing of a cop, but rather “honoring someone he thinks was wrongly convicted of cop killing,” adding “I think he believes that she was convicted unjustly.” O’Reilly parried back, claiming that, either way the “president validated him by inviting to the White House,” adding that the invitation “elevates him as a poet or whatever.”

It was at this point that Stewart “flipped the script” by introducing Leonard Peltier the Native American activist who was also convicted for killing two members of the FBI, an individual who was the subject of a song penned by Bono. (You may recall that Bono has been invited to the White House numerous times by a number of administrations.) Stewart then included Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen as artists who have also written songs about people who have killed cops, pleading with the Fox News host that there is a remarkably inconsistent standard at play, or as Stewart put it “there is a selective outrage machine here at Fox.” Shortly afterwards, O’Reilly producers cut to commercial (let’s call it a standing eight count.)

After the break, Stewart continued to frame the debate in what he saw as the “fake controversy” surrounding Common’s White House appearance by challenging O’Reilly to agree to promote the reinstatement of the ban on assault weapons. “Because that doesn’t celebrate killing cops metaphorically, or figuratively,” an impassioned Stewart averred, adding “It tries to get weapons that kills cops, literally, off the streets.” O’Reilly has been a supporter of the ban on assault weapons.

A few other choice tidbits from the interview: The two cable news hosts also taped a segment on the coming presidential election that will air tomorrow night. Perhaps most importantly, the segment revealed that Bill O’Reilly is a big fan of The Weather Girls (singer’s of It’s Raining Men) is one of O’Reillys favorite bands. Who knew?

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  • The Lantern of Truth

    Stewart kept saying he thought Common felt that both murderers were innocent . Common was defending both killers . STEWART THOUGHT .

    Look at the words . The thug was happy that cops were killed . Conclusion jumping for convenience .

    Obama dislikes cops . To him , they’re like Republicans – the enemy .

    Yesterday , rather than speak to a police group who invited him , in Washington , more golf .

    “President Obama left the White House this morning a little after 9:30 am. He wasn’t on his way to the Capitol building, where grieving friends and families of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty hold a yearly commemorative service. Though he was invited to recognize the fallen and offer condolences by speaking at the annual Peace Officers’ Memorial Service, he instead spent this fine Sunday playing a round of golf with aide Ben Finkenbinder, White House trip director Marvin Nicholson and U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk.

    Every president deserves down time. But after offending police earlier this week by hosting a rapper at the White House whose corpus includes a song lauding a convicted cop-killer, blowing off their service in order to golf seems tone-deaf, if not outright callous. Badly done, Mr. President.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/may/15/obama-hits-links-rather-honor-police-dead/

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Found this gem on the Internet , from an unknown genius rapper :

    O’Reilly the man , he big and tall

    He the big mouth frontin’ that big blue wall

    He say you got the last word , he don’t never do dat

    He tape his show early . he gots to feed his cat !

    Stewart he a comic , he be short and small

    Once was an actor , didn’t work much at all

    I know he funny , he come from the left

    Sometime he steal jokes , but it just petty theft !

  • Barack Must Go

    Jon Stewart won the debate, not because he was correct, but because O’Reilly was as unprepared as I have ever seen him.

    Stewart did prove once more though that he, just like the rest of the left wing bomb thrower cult are paranoid to the point of being comical with what the culture at ” FOX NEWS ” is all about.

    Stewart is like one of those douchebags at a Star Trek convention that does all his conversing in Klingon just so no one , from ” FOX ” knows what he is saying about them.

  • illusive man

    “Jon Stewart To Bill O’Reilly: ‘There Is A Selective Outrage Machine Here At Fox’”

    Looks like we can put Mr. Stewart on the list of people who never watches MSNBC.

  • kvon

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Stewart kept saying he thought Common felt that both murderers were innocent . Common was defending both killers . STEWART THOUGHT .

    Look at the words . The thug was happy that cops were killed . Conclusion jumping for convenience .

    Obama dislikes cops . To him , they’re like Republicans – the enemy .

    Yesterday , rather than speak to a police group who invited him , in Washington , more golf .

    “President Obama left the White House this morning a little after 9:30 am. He wasn’t on his way to the Capitol building, where grieving friends and families of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty hold a yearly commemorative service. Though he was invited to recognize the fallen and offer condolences by speaking at the annual Peace Officers’ Memorial Service, he instead spent this fine Sunday playing a round of golf with aide Ben Finkenbinder, White House trip director Marvin Nicholson and U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk.

    Every president deserves down time. But after offending police earlier this week by hosting a rapper at the White House whose corpus includes a song lauding a convicted cop-killer, blowing off their service in order to golf seems tone-deaf, if not outright callous. Badly done, Mr. President.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/may/15/obama-hits-links-rather-honor-police-dead/

    Funny considering you didn’t have time to watch the whole video before commenting.

  • Azarkhan

    Stewart won, and he was funny doing it. But it was also amusing to watch an intelligent man like Jon Stewart go in for the “Fox News is a Supernatural Evil Demon” conspiracy thread. Like other leftists, Stewart is simply unable to comprehend that not everyone thinks the Left’s political ideas are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Indeed, many of us felt that way long before Fox News came on the scene.

  • murf

    I’m just glad Colby will finally get some sleep now that Stewart debated O’Reilly … As if Stewart is some political heavy weight . Ehh maybe for Colby and the Lefty- granola kids that travel this site he is.

  • Calvin

    Barack Must Go said:
    Jon Stewart won the debate, not because he was correct, but because O’Reilly was as unprepared as I have ever seen him.

    Yep.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Danny Faulkner was murdered by Mumia . He was shot five times , including one shot in the face as he lay helplessly on the ground .. All the supporters of this killer are friends of King Obama . That’s some fine upstanding citizen in the White House .

    The Danny Faulkner Story
    Supporters of Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Just a partial list .

    Angelou, Maya – poet (New York Times, 8/9/95)
    Axelrod, David – producer, musician (Mumia 911, 9/11/99)
    Common Sense – hip hop artist (Mumia 911, 9/11/99)
    Dellums, U.S. Representative Ronald V. (New York Times, 8/9/95)

    Gates, Henry Louis – W.E.B. Du Bois Professor of the Humanities, Harvard University (New York Times, 8/9/95)

    Lee, Spike – director, producer, actor (New York Times, 8/9/95)

    Piven, Frances Fox – professor, City University of New York (New York Times, 8/9/95)

    Rangel, U.S. Representative Charles B. (New York Times, 8/9/95)

    http://www.fop.net/causes/faulkner/projamal.shtml

  • Calvin

    illusive man said:
    “Jon Stewart To Bill O’Reilly: ‘There Is A Selective Outrage Machine Here At Fox’” Looks like we can put Mr. Stewart on the list of people who never watches MSNBC.

    People watch that network? I though their audience was six or five lemmings.

  • grafxmail7

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Found this gem on the Internet , from an unknown genius rapper :

    Yeah…..it’s obvious why this rapper is unknown…..and if you consider that genius…..man…..stick with your job posting Right Wing talking points on websites 24/7. HAHAH!

  • The Lantern of Truth

    kvon said:
    Funny considering you didn’t have time to watch the whole video before commenting.

    It was on TV , nitwit .

  • Calvin

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Danny Faulkner was murdered by Mumia . He was shot five times , including one shot in the face as he lay helplessly on the ground .. All the supporters of this killer are friends of King Obama . That’s some fine upstanding citizen in the White House . The Danny Faulkner StorySupporters of Mumia Abu-Jamal Just a partial list . Angelou, Maya – poet (New York Times, 8/9/95)Axelrod, David – producer, musician (Mumia 911, 9/11/99)Common Sense – hip hop artist (Mumia 911, 9/11/99)Dellums, U.S. Representative Ronald V. (New York Times, 8/9/95) Gates, Henry Louis – W.E.B. Du Bois Professor of the Humanities, Harvard University (New York Times, 8/9/95) Lee, Spike – director, producer, actor (New York Times, 8/9/95) Piven, Frances Fox – professor, City University of New York (New York Times, 8/9/95) Rangel, U.S. Representative Charles B. (New York Times, 8/9/95) http://www.fop.net/causes/faulkner/projamal.shtml

    Daniel Flynn, author of “Cop killer: How Mumia Abu-Jamal conned millions into believing he was framed” told The Daily Caller that Abu-Jamal was the poster-child for ending the death penalty…20 – 30 years ago.

    “Somebody should tell the California Teachers Federation that this is over, he is in jail, he is going to stay there,” Flynn said. “You have numerous eyewitnesses saying Mumia did it. You had ballistic evidence – Mumia’s gun at the scene was consistent with the bullet used to kill Faulkner. Mumia admitted after the fact that he did it.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/11/teachers-support-cop-killer/#ixzz1MZGPzYoY

  • grafxmail7

    Barack Must Go said:
    Stewart is like one of those douchebags at a Star Trek convention that does all his conversing in Klingon just so no one , from ” FOX ” knows what he is saying about them.

    You go to Star Trek conventions?

    It makes much sense now why you’re such a CLOWN!!

    HAHAHAHHAH!!!!

  • Jaurez

    murf said:
    I’m just glad Colby will finally get some sleep now that Stewart debated O’Reilly … As if Stewart is some political heavy weight . Ehh maybe for Colby and the Lefty- granola kids that travel this site he is.

    Colbert and Stewart are nothing but actors that couldn’t actual acting jobs. Oh, comedy channel. Nuff said.

  • kvon

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    It was on TV , nitwit .

    How did you make time to watch the debate when you had to pound out the paragraph after paragraph of angry words copy and pasted from the Sovereign Citizen Website for the Destruction of Non-White People.

  • im_lovin_it

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Found this gem on the Internet , from an unknown genius rapper :

    O’Reilly the man , he big and tall

    He the big mouth frontin’ that big blue wall

    He say you got the last word , he don’t never do dat

    He tape his show early . he gots to feed his cat !

    Stewart he a comic , he be short and small

    Once was an actor , didn’t work much at all

    I know he funny , he come from the left

    Sometime he steal jokes , but it just petty theft !

    Hey! Is this the Young Cons!?! Megyn Kelly loves them and so do I! They’re hip-hopping all over this joint!

    Azarkhan said:
    Like other leftists, Stewart is simply unable to comprehend that not everyone thinks the Left’s political ideas are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Indeed, many of us felt that way long before Fox News came on the scene.

    Leftist group thinkers!!

    “Republicans have nothing but bad ideas and Democrats have no ideas.”
    ~ Lewis Black

    By the way, since when did “leftist” become the new vogue word?

  • kvon

    Jaurez said:
    Colbert and Stewart are nothing but actors that couldn’t actual acting jobs. Oh, comedy channel. Nuff said.

    Yeah, bringing up points which completely refute the Fox Noise Machine by showing their hypocrisy isn’t something you should actually deal with.

  • Calvin

    im_lovin_it said:
    Leftist group thinkers!!
    “Republicans have nothing but bad ideas and Democrats have no ideas.”
    ~ Lewis Black

    Doesn’t that guy describe himself as a socialist?

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    ” . . . what some had described as a pretty epic takedown of the alleged controversy . . .”

    er, “some”?
    Colby just quoted Mediate, on Mediate, in the third person.

  • grafxmail7

    Jaurez/WCinWI said:
    Colbert and Stewart are nothing but actors that couldn’t actual acting jobs. Oh, comedy channel. Nuff said.

    Well Jaurez/WCinWI….That actor just kicked O’Reilly’s a$s. Nuff said.

    How much do you get collecting cans/posting on websites in Fresno or Wisconsin or where ever your character lives?

  • kvon

    Calvin said:
    Doesn’t that guy describe himself as a socialist?

    Spoken like a true McCarthy-ite.

  • OxyCon

    Can we all agree that that was an “Epic Takedown!©”?

  • Calvin

    kvon said:
    Spoken like a true McCarthy-ite.

    “I’m a socialist, so that puts me totally outside any concept…the Canadians get it. But seriously, most people don’t get it. The idea of capping people’s income just scares people. ‘Oh, you’re taking money from the rich.’ Ooh, what a horrifying thing. These people really need $200 million”.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Black#Comedic_style

  • kvon

    OxyCon said:
    Can we all agree that that was an “Epic Takedown!©”?

    Can you tell me one point O’Reilly made?

  • Calvin

    OxyCon said:
    Can we all agree that that was an “Epic Takedown!©”?

    Colby?

  • Jaurez

    kvon said:
    Spoken like a true McCarthy-ite.

    McCarthy was right.

  • im_lovin_it

    Calvin said:
    Doesn’t that guy describe himself as a socialist?

    I remember some quote of his about it one time. Which would make him a Radical Leftist Robot beholden to the propagation of DNC talking points. At least that’s what I gather from the posters here.

    OxyCon said:
    Can we all agree that that was an “Epic Takedown!©”?

    An epic takedown of epic proportions will be epically discussed by epically stupid people on an epic thread at this epic website. It will be epic.

    Epic.

  • Calvin
  • grafxmail7

    Jaurez said:
    McCarthy was right.

    He was a Righty Drunk…..

    Check the IP now…..

  • Jaurez

    Actually, McCarthy was spot on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    Stewart knows selective outrage when he sees it, because he and the other liberals in media regularly practice it.

  • murf

    Jaurez said:
    Colbert and Stewart are nothing but actors that couldn’t actual acting jobs. Oh, comedy channel. Nuff said.

    Yea he is pretty much a ” Grafxmail7 ” / ” Spensen ” , except he is employed .

  • Dem4Ever

    2 Facts and a Question:

    Fact one:  Every single one of  us know that this ‘Common’ fellow is glorifying a “cop killer”, as well as, the murderous act of killing cops.  

    Fact two:  This convicted murderer has escaped justice and is living in a foreign and hostile country protected from our justice system by that country.

    Question:  When is BO going to get the murderer Mumia Abu-Jamal like he joyfully claimed he got Osama Bin Ladin?

  • kvon

    Jaurez said:
    McCarthy was right.

    Jaurez said:
    Actually, McCarthy was spot on.

    I’m glad history is not on your side.

    I’m glad McCarthy is always the villain in every story ever told.

    I’m sorry you didn’t get the point of that dark chapter in American history.

  • im_lovin_it

    Jaurez said:
    McCarthy was right.

    This is why I love this website. It’s interesting to observe and interact with people who still want to defend Joe McCarthy or think that public education should be abolished. I always thought people like Ann Coulter said this just to be shocking.

    I say we just quit being so PC and just party like it’s 1199. Everybody get your best serf threads and watch out for the gallows!

  • Jaurez

    kvon said:
    I’m glad history is not on your side.

    I’m glad McCarthy is always the villain in every story ever told.

    I’m sorry you didn’t get the point of that dark chapter in American history.

    Believe “stories” much? Tooth fairy too?

  • kvon

    Dem4Ever said:
    2 Facts and a Question:

    Fact one:  Every single one of  us know that this ‘Common’ fellow is glorifying a “cop killer”, as well as, the murderous act of killing cops.  

    Fact two:  This convicted murderer has escaped justice and is living in a foreign and hostile country protected from our justice system by that country.

    Question:  When is BO going to get the murderer Mumia Abu-Jamal like he joyfully claimed he got Osama Bin Ladin?

    Obviously you don’t get art as a concept.

  • kvon

    Jaurez said:
    Believe “stories” much? Tooth fairy too?

    No, actually academy award winning films and pulizter prize winning books.

    Everyone that matters that understands history knows McCarthy was an opportunistic bully who traded honor for fame. You obviously don’t matter.

  • grafxmail7

    Jaurez/WCinWI said:
    Believe “stories” much? Tooth fairy too?

    McCarthy was the Tooth Fairy?

  • Calvin

    im_lovin_it said:
    This is why I love this website. It’s interesting to observe and interact with people who still want to defend Joe McCarthy or think that public education should be abolished. I always thought people like Ann Coulter said this just to be shocking.

    1. Read this: http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/140008105X

    2. Who says that public education should be abolished? Maybe the DOE, but not public education handled by the states.

    im_lovin_it said:
    I say we just quit being so PC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gPgi6t5Hoo

    im_lovin_it said:
    Everybody get your best serf threads

    Read this: http://www.amazon.com/Road-Serfdom-Documents-Definitive-Collected/dp/0226320553

  • OxyCon

    kvon said:
    Can you tell me one point O’Reilly made?

    O’Reilly, through the use of cold hard facts, made it clear to all sentient beings that Common supports copkillers.

    Stewart muddled the debate by bringing up other artists who have sang about murderers or copkillers, but none of those artists ever named their kids after copkillers or visited them in communist, anti-American countries, which demonstrates how emotionally attached to copkillers Common is.

    O’Reilly also mentioned how Obama invited the copkiller lover to the White House during the week that fallen policemen are honored nationally, and that Obama has longtime close association with undesirable radicals.

    How my doin?

  • OxyCon

    Calvin said:
    Colby?

    lol, yeah, I’m ribbing Colby, hahaha

  • kvon

    OxyCon said:
    O’Reilly, through the use of cold hard facts, made it clear to all sentient beings that Common supports copkillers.

    Stewart muddled the debate by bringing up other artists who have sang about murderers or copkillers, but none of those artists ever named their kids after copkillers or visited them in communist, anti-American countries, which demonstrates how emotionally attached to copkillers Common is.

    O’Reilly also mentioned how Obama invited the copkiller lover to the White House during the week that fallen policemen are honored nationally, and that Obama has longtime close association with undesirable radicals.

    How my doin?

    Name the facts he used.

  • OxyCon

    im_lovin_it said:
    An epic takedown of epic proportions will be epically discussed by epically stupid people on an epic thread at this epic website. It will be epic.

    Epic.

    That was totally EPIC!

  • kvon

    OxyCon said:
    O’Reilly, through the use of cold hard facts, made it clear to all sentient beings that Common supports copkillers.

    Stewart muddled the debate by bringing up other artists who have sang about murderers or copkillers, but none of those artists ever named their kids after copkillers or visited them in communist, anti-American countries, which demonstrates how emotionally attached to copkillers Common is.

    O’Reilly also mentioned how Obama invited the copkiller lover to the White House during the week that fallen policemen are honored nationally, and that Obama has longtime close association with undesirable radicals.

    How my doin?

    Those aren’t facts dude. Watch the video and show me facts.

  • stephenpyle

    The one thing I thought was good that O’Reilly pointed out is that Obama has to do a better job when looking at the people he invites in. He has to look at their resume and see if that is someone who he wants to be associated with.

    I don’t think any less of BO, he just needs to know people judge you by the company you keep.

    That being said, I did think Stewart had some good points too, but that O’Reilly point was the one that stuck out.

  • OxyCon

    Dem4Ever said:
    When is BO going to get the murderer Mumia Abu-Jamal like he joyfully claimed he got Osama Bin Ladin?

    You heard it here first…Obama is going to pardon Mumia Wesley Cook Jamal.

  • kvon

    OxyCon said:
    O’Reilly, through the use of cold hard facts, made it clear to all sentient beings that Common supports copkillers.

    Stewart muddled the debate by bringing up other artists who have sang about murderers or copkillers, but none of those artists ever named their kids after copkillers or visited them in communist, anti-American countries, which demonstrates how emotionally attached to copkillers Common is.

    O’Reilly also mentioned how Obama invited the copkiller lover to the White House during the week that fallen policemen are honored nationally, and that Obama has longtime close association with undesirable radicals.

    How my doin?

    So visiting a copkiller is the line you shouldn’t cross? Wow, that is very specific. WOW.

  • OxyCon

    kvon said:
    Name the facts he used.

    Hah! You fell into my trap and have shown yourself to not be a sentient being!

  • Dem4Ever

    kvon said:
    Obviously you don’t get art as a concept.

    Of course I do…my posting is lovely poetry.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Dem4Ever said:
    Fact one: Every single one of us know that this ‘Common’ fellow is glorifying a “cop killer”, as well as, the murderous act of killing cops.

    Of course . The left bends over backwards to protect anything King Obama does They’ll take any position to do it .

    The problem for them is , he doesn’t stop .
    Wait till you see the the nexrt outrageous thing he does.
    And the next .

    And the next .

    And the one after that .

  • grafxmail7

    OxyCon said:
    You heard it here first…Obama is going to pardon Mumia Wesley Cook Jamal.

    Why does it have to be a black cop killer? Don’t you have any white cop killers he might pardon? Why’s it always got to be a black guy with you? HAHAHA!

  • kvon

    OxyCon said:
    Hah! You fell into my trap and have shown yourself to not be a sentient being!

    So visiting an accused copkiller is bad, but you can have them over to the White House…those are the facts you’re so proud of…wow my friend, you are brilliant!

  • kvon

    Dem4Ever said:
    Of course I do…my posting is lovely poetry.

    I guess the ramblings of a sad pathetic angry white xenophobe could be considered a form of art…

    What is that thing that Ted Nugent does? And I don’t mean your mother or meth…

  • grafxmail7

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Of course . The left bends over backwards to protect anything King Obama does They’ll take any position to do it .

    The problem for them is , he doesn’t stop .
    Wait till you see the the nexrt outrageous thing he does.
    And the next .

    And the next .

    And the one after that .

    ‘Cause you’ll be there with your prepared Righty talking points……….collectin’ cans……

  • Rusty Shackelford

    Absolutly must see TV……right up there with Neil Armstrongs moon landing……many would describe this as an epic debate.Way better then Kennedy-Nixon,Reagan-Mondale,Clinton-Bush,Bush-Gore or Obama-McCain….the only way to describe it is EPIC!!!!!!

  • Barack Must Go

    kvon said:
    Funny considering you didn’t have time to watch the whole video before commenting.

    No. Actually it’s quite sad we have a racist black man for a president. Nothing funny about the guy, even though he’s a joke.

  • BR

    Ok, now lets invite the KKK to the White House and just call it selective outrage when anyone complains. Thats fine.

  • OxyCon

    kvon said:
    Those aren’t facts dude. Watch the video and show me facts.

    Oh, they’re not? Common didn’t name his daughter Assata after a copkiller?; didn’t travel to Cuba to visit a copkiller?; didn’t support Abu Jamal the copkiller?

  • Barack Must Go

    kvon said:
    Yeah, bringing up points which completely refute the Fox Noise Machine by showing their hypocrisy isn’t something you should actually deal with.

    You aren’t just a left wing bomb thrower, you’re a flaming one.

  • Azarkhan

    im_lovin_it said:
    I say we just quit being so PC and just party like it’s 1199.

    Iran’s judiciary has postponed the blinding of a man as punishment for throwing acid in the face of a young woman in 2004, after she rejected his offer of marriage…

    Much of the outcry in Iranian media and on blogs surrounds the country’s legal system, which produces such verdicts by practicing an “eye for an eye” approach to justice on the basis of 7th century Islamic jurisprudence.

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2071529,00.html

  • OxyCon

    grafxmail7 said:
    Why does it have to be a black cop killer? Don’t you have any white cop killers he might pardon? Why’s it always got to be a black guy with you? HAHAHA!

    Okay I’m game. Name some White copkillers (I know there are many) who are embraced by the entertainment world, or even popular for that matter?

  • Dem4Ever

    kvon said:
    I guess the ramblings of a sad pathetic angry white xenophobe could be considered a form of art…

    What is that thing that Ted Nugent does? And I don’t mean your mother or meth…

    I responded to you with respect and a bit of humor. You in turn insult me and my deceased mother. Why?

  • OxyCon

    kvon said:
    So visiting an accused copkiller is bad, but you can have them over to the White House…those are the facts you’re so proud of…wow my friend, you are brilliant!

    …not helping yourself…

  • Color Me Badd

    Jon Stewart eats Republicans for breakfast, even with the heavy editing by the O’Reilly crew.

  • Barack Must Go

    kvon said:
    I’m glad history is not on your side.

    I’m glad McCarthy is always the villain in every story ever told.

    I’m sorry you didn’t get the point of that dark chapter in American history.

    This one, with Barack Obama in our White House will go down in History as way darker, black even.

  • Color Me Badd

    “Ozzy, mom loves your stuff,” -George W. Bush

  • Glackin

    Jaurez said:
    Actually, McCarthy was spot on.

    Spot on the booze. Spot on any little girl he could get near. The worst thing to come out of Wisc. until WC/Juarez.

  • grafxmail7

    Barack Must Go said:
    No. Actually it’s quite sad we have a racist black man for a president. Nothing funny about the guy, even though he’s a joke.

    Is Chicken Little Beck your God?

    Is that who told you that the President is racist?

    ….or was it all those ‘code’ words that you’re being fed?

  • Color Me Badd

    Do the Right-Wing Thing
    Eazy-E the Republican? — The N.W.A. rapper’s surprising connection to the conservative George Bush administration
    By David Browne | Mar 29, 1991

    Sinéad O’Connor and George Bush may not quite be political allies, but they do seem to be on the same side of one hot issue: N.W.A. (Niggas With Attitude), the controversial L.A. rappers who made headlines with their song ”F— Tha Police.” O’Connor, an ardent hip-hop fan, was scheduled to make a cameo appearance on the band’s forthcoming album, Niggaz 4 Life, but conflicting work schedules got in the way. Meanwhile, the band’s entrepreneurial leader, Eazy-E (above, a.k.a. Eric Wright, 23), jetted off to D.C. for — of all things — a ”Salute to the Commander in Chief” luncheon in Washington on March 18. The National Republican Senatorial Committee sponsored the fete, which featured a speech by President Bush and drew 1,400 Republicans. Wright wore a black leather suit to the event. Why was the rapper and self-proclaimed former drug dealer invited? Apparently his donations to various L.A. charities earned him an invitation to join the fund-raising Republican Senatorial Inner Circle. And Wright’s spokesman says the rapper ”really loves the President. He thinks he’s a great humanitarian and that he did a great job with Desert Storm.” Senators Phil Gramm (R-Texas) and Robert Dole (R-Kansas), who’d asked Wright to attend the banquet, had no comment.

  • Calvin

    OxyCon said:
    Oh, they’re not? Common didn’t name his daughter Assata after a copkiller?; didn’t travel to Cuba to visit a copkiller?; didn’t support Abu Jamal the copkiller?

    Sat in Wright’s pew since he was 8. Doesn’t believe blacks and whites should date/marry.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Cop killer Chesimard ( Assata Shakur ) , the one Common named his daughter after , was picked up after shooting the N.J. Trooper and kicking him in the head . Pieces of his brain were still on her boot .

    Common writes a song praising this monster .

    And Obama invites Common to the White House during Police Week in Washington .

  • Color Me Badd

    I just posted a cop killing dream by George Bush’s favorite rapper Easy E, but it is awaiting moderation. I guess it’s cool when Tommy Christopher uses the f word in the comments but not for Color Me Badd

    Tee Hee.

  • OxyCon

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Cop killer Chesimard ( Assata Shakur ) , the one Common named his daughter after , was picked up after shooting the N.J. Trooper and kicking him in the head . Pieces of his brain were still on her boot .

    Common writes a song praising this monster .

    And Obama invites Common to the White House during Police Week in Washington .

    She’s innocent I tell ya! The cops framed her by smearing Foerster’s brains all over her feet!

  • Color Me Badd

    Color Me Badd said:
    Do the Right-Wing Thing
    Eazy-E the Republican? — The N.W.A. rapper’s surprising connection to the conservative George Bush administration
    By David Browne | Mar 29, 1991

    Sinéad O’Connor and George Bush may not quite be political allies, but they do seem to be on the same side of one hot issue: N.W.A. (Niggas With Attitude), the controversial L.A. rappers who made headlines with their song ”F— Tha Police.” O’Connor, an ardent hip-hop fan, was scheduled to make a cameo appearance on the band’s forthcoming album, Niggaz 4 Life, but conflicting work schedules got in the way. Meanwhile, the band’s entrepreneurial leader, Eazy-E (above, a.k.a. Eric Wright, 23), jetted off to D.C. for — of all things — a ”Salute to the Commander in Chief” luncheon in Washington on March 18. The National Republican Senatorial Committee sponsored the fete, which featured a speech by President Bush and drew 1,400 Republicans. Wright wore a black leather suit to the event. Why was the rapper and self-proclaimed former drug dealer invited? Apparently his donations to various L.A. charities earned him an invitation to join the fund-raising Republican Senatorial Inner Circle. And Wright’s spokesman says the rapper ”really loves the President. He thinks he’s a great humanitarian and that he did a great job with Desert Storm.” Senators Phil Gramm (R-Texas) and Robert Dole (R-Kansas), who’d asked Wright to attend the banquet, had no comment.

    Aww got the thumbs down, guess you idiots are okay with Republican hypocracy.

  • Color Me Badd

    George Bush’s favorite rapper Easy E founded Ruthless Records with the money he made slangin’ drugs. But I guess that was cool with Iran/Contra George Bush who was probably slanin drugs himself.

    Tee Hee.

  • ProgLib

    FoxNews is consistent on this, they’ve always been against black artists visiting the White House during black presidents’ administrations. Tide goes in tide goes out, never a missed communication.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    Aww got the thumbs down, guess you idiots are okay with Republican hypocracy.

    and you with liberal hypocrisy, so whats the problem

  • OxyCon

    Color Me Badd said:
    I just posted a cop killing dream by George Bush’s favorite rapper Easy E…

    Tee Hee.

    Do you really think that George W. Bush has a clue as to who Easy E is? He probably thinks Easy E is an oven cleaner or other household product.

  • Barack Must Go

    grafxmail7 said:
    Is Chicken Little Beck your God?

    Is that who told you that the President is racist?

    ….or was it all those ‘code’ words that you’re being fed?

    You really are a ____

  • grafxmail7

    OxyCon said:
    Okay I’m game. Name some White copkillers (I know there are many) who are embraced by the entertainment world, or even popular for that matter?

    So you really think that Obama is going to pardon Mumia Abu-Jamal Wesley Cook?

    You’re going to actually say that you think this is going to happen and you weren’t insinuating something different?

    Get real…..It’s so obvious with you. It was obvious when you trashed Colin Powell. How can you trash Colin Powell???

  • edisciple

    Point one for Stewart for his “Selective outrage” argument, but minus one for calling the kettle black when he is also the pot! Another minus points for also subtly proposing “two wrongs make a right!”

  • grafxmail7

    OxyCon said:
    Do you really think that George W. Bush has a clue as to who Easy E is? He probably thinks Easy E is an oven cleaner or other household product.

    First off…..you’re obviously joking with that defense.

    Second….Weren’t you a Democrat when W was in office?

    Did you vote for W?

  • CAINtheBULL

    Stewart cleaned his clock. John let BIll lay his case out and used it against. Bill was silent for a while because he had no comeback.

  • Bill Huggins

    Barack Must Go said:
    You aren’t just a left wing bomb thrower, you’re a flaming one.

    BIGOT ALERT

    BMG TROUTING OUT HIS GREATEST HITS

  • hakeem17

    Jon stuck to the fox machine and I have to give to Bill O, for at least giving Jon a chance to get his point across he usually bull dozer over most of his guest,,To the point Common is just a artist that went to visit someone he believes that is innocent so what,,, like we don’t or have not accused and convicted anyone in this country that was not guilty right!!!!!! just wait til it happens to you.,,,,

    Hakeem Ali

    Student of Criminal Justice

  • Bill Huggins

    ProgLib said:
    FoxNews is consistent on this, they’ve always been against black artists visiting the White House during black presidents’ administrations. Tide goes in tide goes out, never a missed communication.

    Hahhha. CLASSIC POST

    HILARIOUS

  • OxyCon

    grafxmail7 said:
    So you really think that Obama is going to pardon Mumia Abu-Jamal Wesley Cook?

    You’re going to actually say that you think this is going to happen and you weren’t insinuating something different?

    Get real…..It’s so obvious with you. It was obvious when you trashed Colin Powell. How can you trash Colin Powell???

    The only time I’ve ever trashed Colin Powell was over his testimony at the UN before the launch of the Iraqi Invasion, for using flimsy evidence to advance Bush’s war aims.

  • OxyCon

    hakeem17 said:
    Jon stuck to the fox machine and I have to give to Bill O, for at least giving Jon a chance to get his point across he usually bull dozer over most of his guest,,To the point Common is just a artist that went to visit someone he believes that is innocent so what,,, like we don’t or have not accused and convicted anyone in this country that was not guilty right!!!!!! just wait til it happens to you.,,,,

    Hakeem Ali

    Student of Criminal Justice

    Shakur was indicted in relation to six other alleged criminal incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[6]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur

  • OxyCon

    grafxmail7 said:
    First off…..you’re obviously joking with that defense.

    Second….Weren’t you a Democrat when W was in office?

    Did you vote for W?

    I voted for Gore and then Kerry. As a matter of fact, the Kerry campaign took my advice on a few things…one backfired cuz Kerry is a dork, lol

  • Jaurez

    Bill Huggins said:
    Hahhha. CLASSIC POST

    HILARIOUS

    No, it wasn’t socky.

  • Alice67

    Glackin said:
    Spot on the booze. Spot on any little girl he could get near. The worst thing to come out of Wisc. until WC/Juarez.

    And Walker.

  • kvon

    Barack Must Go said:
    This one, with Barack Obama in our White House will go down in History as way darker, black even.

    And most of his opponents will be remembered as racist assholes. Like you.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    Jon Stewart ate Bill O’Reilly’s lunch. Bill O’Reilly is a stupid biased redneck idiot. He looked like the mental midget he is next to Jon Stewart.

  • Alz

    ProgLib said:
    FoxNews is consistent on this, they’ve always been against black artists visiting the White House during black presidents’ administrations. Tide goes in tide goes out, never a missed communication.

    Proof?

  • grafxmail7

    OxyCon said:
    I voted for Gore and then Kerry. As a matter of fact, the Kerry campaign took my advice on a few things…one backfired cuz Kerry is a dork, lol

    Were you like another poster here that voted for Clinton in the primary but voted for McCain in the general?

  • stoogedudes

    Very interesting interview. Yeah, I’m biased, but I’d say Stewart won. O’Reilly did make a few good points, but I think the whole gist of Stewart’s argument is this: Who gives a crap?

    President Obama and Michelle Obama (who did the inviting) are busy people. They enjoy music and poetry. Why should it be her responsibility or anyone’s responsibility to comb through this guy’s lyrics to find controversial lyrics or anything that would link him to someone undesirable. It seems like this whole debate is about Michelle Obama being horrible to invite Common to the White House and there seems to be an implication that, because the Obamas invited someone who is supposedly a supporter of cop killing, that Obama himself supports such heinous acts and that he hates cops himself. They support this notion by using his “they (Cambridge police) acted stupidly” as another apparent piece of evidence that Obama hates cops.

    Face it, unless you were a hip-hop enthusiast (which I’d be willing to bet at least 75% of the people outraged by this are NOT), you likely didn’t know who Common is or care. It isn’t until some right wing website scans whatever they can get their hands on to smear this President that anyone cared who this guy was and now they are “experts” on all things Common. (Please, let me save you the links to left-wing websites doing the same, as yes, they do it too)

    I can understand why people might be upset by Common being invited to the White House, but I can’t understand the foaming at the mouth outrage that has ensued.

    If the next Republican President invited someone like Ted Nugent to the White House to perform his classic songs, or to do some poetry himself, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. For one, I love his music. Yes, I may find some of the things he’s said about Obama and Hillary pathetic, but I would not for one second assume that this future GOP President invited Nugent because he (or she) somehow had the same idiotic feeling toward Obama and Hillary as Nugent did.

    Again, this President, Lord knows, is not perfect. He has given many opportunities for people to criticize him policy wise. Why can’t we stick to criticizing him on POLICIES rather than petty manufactured outrage that just invites more hatred and mouth-foaming.

  • Lolwut

    BR said:
    Ok, now lets invite the KKK to the White House and just call it selective outrage when anyone complains. Thats fine.

    That’s the stupidest thing iv’e read (outside of TLoT or BMG comments) so far. You’re comparing the KKK to a music artist. He’s not the head of the Black Panthers burning effigies of cops. Do some of you have a filter for “what you want to hear” when you’re watching T.V.? Or maybe some sort of twisted bigot translation machine?

    Msnbc and Fox both foster selective outrage. It would be fine because you can just choose not to watch the “opinion guys”, but they inevitably get shoved or linked back in your face by other media at some point anyway. It’s a lose-lose. Bill is an opinion guy (self proclaimed). Stewart makes jokes about media. Taking either of them seriously isn’t very bright.

  • Girth Brick

    Real Question! Did Bill-O sell any cool Factor Gear?

  • RhapsodyinBlue

    Barack Must Go said:
    Jon Stewart won the debate, not because he was correct, but because O’Reilly was as unprepared as I have ever seen him.

    Stewart did prove once more though that he, just like the rest of the left wing bomb thrower cult are paranoid to the point of being comical with what the culture at ” FOX NEWS ” is all about.

    Stewart is like one of those douchebags at a Star Trek convention that does all his conversing in Klingon just so no one , from ” FOX ” knows what he is saying about them.

    Yes, Bill only lost because he was “unprepared”

    You then went on to show Bill how he could’ve replied, oh wait, no you didn’t, you just threw out some typical GOP insults. Jon easily handed O’Reilly because there is no debate, this was never an actual argument, this is just FoxNews making news as per usual and their stupid seals for fans barking along with it.

  • Lolwut

    Girth Brick said:
    Real Question! Did Bill-O sell any cool Factor Gear?

    He was hocking a bumper sticker if you spent 20 bucks. Plus his book and some other junk.

  • insideguy

    Jon Beat em but I do respect Bill for having Jon on to debate. Most righties would never take the chance. Jon always beats him and when Bill is losing he resorts to bad jokes to deflect. Plus Bill wins with the ratings and thats what he cares about:)

  • Alz

    stoogedudes said:
    Very interesting interview. Yeah, I’m biased, but I’d say Stewart won. O’Reilly did make a few good points, but I think the whole gist of Stewart’s argument is this: Who gives a crap?

    President Obama and Michelle Obama (who did the inviting) are busy people. They enjoy music and poetry. Why should it be her responsibility or anyone’s responsibility to comb through this guy’s lyrics to find controversial lyrics or anything that would link him to someone undesirable. It seems like this whole debate is about Michelle Obama being horrible to invite Common to the White House and there seems to be an implication that, because the Obamas invited someone who is supposedly a supporter of cop killing, that Obama himself supports such heinous acts and that he hates cops himself. They support this notion by using his “they (Cambridge police) acted stupidly” as another apparent piece of evidence that Obama hates cops.

    Face it, unless you were a hip-hop enthusiast (which I’d be willing to bet at least 75% of the people outraged by this are NOT), you likely didn’t know who Common is or care. It isn’t until some right wing website scans whatever they can get their hands on to smear this President that anyone cared who this guy was and now they are “experts” on all things Common. (Please, let me save you the links to left-wing websites doing the same, as yes, they do it too)

    I can understand why people might be upset by Common being invited to the White House, but I can’t understand the foaming at the mouth outrage that has ensued.

    If the next Republican President invited someone like Ted Nugent to the White House to perform his classic songs, or to do some poetry himself, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. For one, I love his music. Yes, I may find some of the things he’s said about Obama and Hillary pathetic, but I would not for one second assume that this future GOP President invited Nugent because he (or she) somehow had the same idiotic feeling toward Obama and Hillary as Nugent did.

    Again, this President, Lord knows, is not perfect. He has given many opportunities for people to criticize him policy wise. Why can’t we stick to criticizing him on POLICIES rather than petty manufactured outrage that just invites more hatred and mouth-foaming.

    This “Common” issue doesn’t stand alone. It’s about the patterns. Obama, as with many hard-leftists, doesn’t really seem to like the country as it was founded or as it is.

    When Obama said he wanted to change the country, he meant by “a lot”, right? So if you love something, why would you want to change it?

    “Common” is just one more thing on a long list.

    As for Ted Nugent, as far as I can see, he is very pro-American – which is good. Obama’s history is filled with people who are anti-American. So people naturally assume that Common is like many of Obama’s other famous friends: Bill Ayers (involved with bombings; his wife possibly murdered a San Francisco cop), Rev Wright, Blago, Rezko, Farrakhan, Van Jones, etc.

    It’s a long list.

  • Girth Brick

    Alz said:
    This “Common” issue doesn’t stand alone. It’s about the patterns. Obama, as with many hard-leftists, doesn’t really seem to like the country as it was founded or as it is.

    Same for Hank Williams, Roy Rogers, Johnny Cash, Dixie Chicks, Woody Guthrie, etc.

    Yeah – they all hate America.

  • Girth Brick

    oh yeah – Bruce Springsteen – I guess he hates America too.

    Wingnuts never fail the stupid test.

  • stoogedudes

    Alz said:
    Obama, as with many hard-leftists, doesn’t really seem to like the country as it was founded or as it is.

    Well, many would argue that he’s not hard leftist at all, but has been very much a moderate on many issues he’s worked on, but I know you vehemently disagree with that, so I”ll move on.

    Alz said:
    When Obama said he wanted to change the country, he meant by “a lot”, right? So if you love something, why would you want to change it?

    Him saying he wants to change the country isn’t him wanting to make people dependent on government and do away with the rich as you would have him appear to want. When he said he wants to change the country, he meant, he wants to change it in a way that would allow more access for those who have no access to healthcare, in a way that would allow kids to go to college that normally wouldn’t afford it and so on. If you love your country and acknowledge that it is not the land of opportunity as we knew it, things must change that gives people the opportunity, that people, despite working so very hard all of their lives, just can’t get ahead and experience something that every American should experience. If you truly love your country, you will criticize it when you feel it is not living up to its potential, not give blind support to everything it does, right or wrong.

    Now, I’ve read enough of your posts to know that you see this as leveling the playing field. Giving people chances by taking them away from others. I know this is how you view him, but I think it’s not as black and white as that. Obama came from humble roots. He was not born with a silver spoon. He worked hard to get where he is. I can’t speak for him, but I’m sure he acknowledges that people should work hard to get ahead, and not that everyone should become dependent on the government and live off the government dime, like many right-wing cynics thinks he believes.

    Alz said:
    As for Ted Nugent, as far as I can see, he is very pro-American – which is good.

    Yes, he’s so Pro-American that he invites Barack and Hillary to suck on his gun, those low-life commie bastards!

  • rocky road

    Hey Colby,

    The only person who called Stewart’s takedown on Fox epic is you. Stop blaming others for your hyperbole. Yeesh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Hebb/1483004033 Peter Hebb

    I really think Stewart let O’Reilly off the hook too much be being super polite. Almost every time Stewart wanted to make or rebut a point, O’Reilly interrupted, either to defuse the rebuttal or to change his original remark/question. Stewart made some excellent remarks about others who have visited the white house. (I have no idea about the underlying issues of whether the lady he visited is or is not guilty. She was convicted, but then so were the other three that Stewart mentioned and were subsequently proven innocent and released). Having said that, I thought Stewart was weakest in his defense of Michelle inviting him. Why is an invitation to the White House an endorsement of everything Common has done or said?
    If that were the case, do you really suppose Boehner et al would ever get invited?

  • Alz

    Girth Brick said:
    Same for Hank Williams, Roy Rogers, Johnny Cash, Dixie Chicks, Woody Guthrie, etc.

    Yeah – they all hate America.

    They’re not running things. Obama is our first anti-American president.

  • Jaurez

    Girth Brick said:
    Same for Hank Williams, Roy Rogers, Johnny Cash, Dixie Chicks, Woody Guthrie, etc.

    Yeah – they all hate America.

    what, surf not up?

  • skyfet

    Booya! ya phony, you are defeated.

  • Alz

    stoogedudes said:
    Him saying he wants to change the country isn’t him wanting to make people dependent on government and do away with the rich as you would have him appear to want. When he said he wants to change the country, he meant, he wants to change it in a way that would allow more access for those who have no access to healthcare, in a way that would allow kids to go to college that normally wouldn’t afford it and so on.

    Sorry, that’s what you believe, but that’s not what he’s doing.

    What he is doing is imposing the liberal imperative of forcing everything to be “equal”. We have seen the results. Just go look at the inner cities. 50 years of this thinking that you so admire has brought a lot of hopelessness, despair and death.

    The pain that liberal ideas create and foster is ACCEPTABLE to liberals, otherwise you guys would have changed course decades ago.

  • david r

    What the hell? It is just the White House. I imagine Nixon’s guest list raised a few eyebrows on the right. How many former Bill Clinton conquests came to the WH during his presidency? I’d like to see Obama invite the Dixie Chicks. Down here in Austin, we don’t get too bent out of shape over outrageous behavior. I like having a real diverse WH. Obama is not the only president who has had this kind of WH. We talk about the great melting pot. Let’s walk the talk.

  • Gasket

    That was actually a nice cordial exchange. It was fair criticism by both. Good debate.

  • hgarner2000

    I really like John Stewart. I think he’s probably my favorite politically pundity wise-ass. It was fun to watch him on the “O’Reilly Factor” because we fans get to see another side of him.

  • NonElite

    Credit where credit is due, Stewart took this round. Stewart is right, all of the other artists who praise cop killers should have been banned from the White House as well. One caveat however, the police who protested Common’s invitation should have been acknowledged by the administration. I am not familiar with the songs by Springstein, Dylan or Bono. If they praised those killers like Common did, of course there should have been opposition to their invitations to the White House. Were there similar police protests about these songs as well? I would include David Allen Coe on the don’t invite list.
    One other thing is that the Common controversy seemed to happen all over the internet simultaneously and didn’t seem to me as driven by Fox in particular.
    I also have to agree with Stewart on the assault weapons ban.
    As far as “selective outrage” goes, the all time winner in that catagory has to be MSNBC.

  • kvon

    When did Republicans and Conservatives become enormous pussies? Seriously, why do you guys whine about everything nowadays?

  • Gasket

    Ass said:
    Obama, as with many hard-leftists, doesn’t really seem to like the country as it was founded or as it is.

    As the country was during it’s foundation, Obama, that “leftist” would be owned like a piece of property, you oaf. BTW, you may need to turn down that hyperbole. You should talk to REAL leftists and try and convince them how “leftist” Obama has been these past two years with corporate welfare (bailouts), no single payer, war expansions, executive power expansions, civil liberty erosions, Bush tax cut extension, Patriot Act extension et al. Clueless.

  • david r

    Gasket said:
    That was actually a nice cordial exchange. It was fair criticism by both. Good debate.

    BillO landed a big fish with this appearance. Stewart is red hot these days. I think Bill probably likes Colbert more for clowning around, but he relishes his appearances with Stewart. I think Stewart is really bright. I’d love to see him on Meet the Press or some similar format. I bet we’d be surprised at how well he would hold his own. You have to give credit to Fox for the open exchange. I’d like to see Bill go on Maddow’s show.

  • Prom Night Dumpster Baby

    I’ve noticed the same several names popping up within the first page of comments on almost every story. Just a suggestion: if you’re not getting paid for this, you should really take a vacation away from the house and get some sunshine and fun.

  • Lolwut

    NonElite said: I am not familiar with the songs by Springstein, Dylan or Bono. If they praised those killers like Common did, of course there should have been opposition to their invitations to the White House. Were there similar police protests about these songs as well?

    Correction: Common didn’t praise killers. He identified with unjust convictions based on his opinions.

    Man, it would be nice to read posts from people who aren’t oblivious to their bigotry every once in a while.

  • Alz

    Gasket said:
    As the country was during it’s foundation, Obama, that “leftist” would be owned like a piece of property, you oaf. BTW, you may need to turn down that hyperbole. You should talk to REAL leftists and try and convince them how “leftist” Obama has been these past two years with corporate welfare (bailouts), no single payer, war expansions, executive power expansions, civil liberty erosions, Bush tax cut extension, Patriot Act extension et al. Clueless.

    Nope, you’re clueless. Obam’s goal is to tear down our system. (Read up on Cloward-Piven and relate it to Alinsky.)

    Obama is a Modern Liberal/Progressive and he’s getting done what he can, but let’s be clear, the things he is doing are not designed to make things better, they’re designed to make things “equal” – equally poor and miserable.

    This is why these Modern Liberals/Progressives don’t care about budgets. It’s not just Obama, many States are screwed up by this liberalism too.

    Don’t boil over, step back and look at what they are doing to the country. And forget the liberal line that Conservatives like much of Bush’s economics because they don’t either.

    haven’t you ever wondered why the two sides are polar opposite on just about every substantive issue? It’s because of the “equal” vs better issue.

    I’ve explained parts of it many times here but need to crash now. I don’t know what kind of “leftist” you are, but this Modern Liberal/Progressive strain is just terrible.

  • Alz

    Lolwut said:
    Correction: Common didn’t praise killers. He identified with unjust convictions based on his opinions.

    Man, it would be nice to read posts from people who aren’t oblivious to their bigotry every once in a while.

    See this: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NJ-State-Police-Outraged-Over-Rapper-Invited-to-White-House-121596869.html

    “For New Jersey police, the outrage centers on ‘A Song for Assata’ lyrics like ‘Your power and pride is beautiful. May God bless your soul.’”

    “Shakur, formerly known as Joanne Chesimard, was convicted for the 1973 slaying of Trooper Werner Foerster on the New Jersey Turnpike. She escaped prison in 1979, and is living in asylum in Cuba.”

    “‘The young people who read this stuff, hear this stuff, are getting a very dangerous and deadly message,’ David Jones, president of the State Troopers Fraternal Association union, said on Tuesday.”

    “After the union made the case on Tuesday, the New Jersey State Police itself issued a statement on the controversy on Wednesday.”

    “‘We cannot dictate who is invited to the White House, but we will always view Joanne Chesimard as a fugitive who killed one of our own,’ Major Gerald Lewis, spokesman for the state police said in a statement. ‘We will continue our pursuit of her until she is brought to justice.’”

    I think he named one of his kids after her.

    See?

  • labman57

    In the next day or so, look for O’Reilly to engage in that standard FOX News practice of revisionist video editing — he will attempt to save face by giving himself another opportunity to counterpoint cherry-picked components of Stewart’s arguments …. without the embarrassment of a Stewart rebuttal.

  • joe7

    labman57 said:
    In the next day or so, look for O’Reilly to engage in that standard FOX News practice of revisionist video editing — he will attempt to save face by giving himself another opportunity to counterpoint cherry-picked components of Stewart’s arguments …. without the embarrassment of a Stewart rebuttal.

    Are you kidding? Stewart does that all the time. He goes back on his show and then skewers it. Did you know that Stewart hosts his own show? Its on at 11pm eastern. Just look at how he treated Bret Baier. In a episode after the interview when Bret could not respond to his allegations, he made an entire segment skewering him and things he said in the interview. Looks like you are the revisionist here .

    Do you honestly think Sterwart insn’t going to go over this in his show and tweak it to appeal to his specif demographic of fans?

  • Jaurez

    Prom Night Dumpster Baby said:
    I’ve noticed the same several names popping up within the first page of comments on almost every story. Just a suggestion: if you’re not getting paid for this, you should really take a vacation away from the house and get some sunshine and fun.

    You talkin shiite about kvon, grafixshemale and imlovinit?

  • Nacho

    FoxNews is an Obama attack machine and Stewart nailed Fox and O’Reilly on it.

    For anybody that tries to play the MSNBC card, they’re hacks also but the difference is they don’t lie about calling themselves “fair and balanced.”

    And I don’t see too many viewers on MSNBC claiming them as their home team news outlet like you FoxNuts.

  • Fokker News

    Nacho said:
    FoxNews is an Obama attack machine and Stewart nailed Fox and O’Reilly on it.

    For anybody that tries to play the MSNBC card, they’re hacks also but the difference is they don’t lie about calling themselves “fair and balanced.”

    And I don’t see too many viewers on MSNBC claiming them as their home team news outlet like you FoxNuts.

    You hit the nail on the head Nacho.

  • darladoon

    i’m not sure why law enforcement even gets a pass

    they kill innocent black guys not infrequently in my neck of the woods

    but if a black guy shoots a cop? whoa, baby! white people will never, ,ever forget that….

    he’ll have a highway named after him, he’ll get a bunch of medals, his wife will get full pension
    until she’s dead, all kinds of amazing goodies

    now, don’t get me wrong. police play a very important role, but they are not infallible.

    in fact, as i said, in my neck of the woods, they are very obviously infallible. and now, they
    have tasers….

  • grafxmail7

    Jaurez/WCinWI said:
    You talkin shiite about kvon, grafixshemale and imlovinit?

    Wow! This whole calling you out for being a PAID BLOGGER has really got to you!

    That’s HILARIOUS!

    ***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person……a PAID BLOGGER***

  • Jaurez

    darladoon said:
    they kill innocent black guys not infrequently in my neck of the woods

    Links, please.

  • OxyCon

    stoogedudes said:
    Very interesting interview. Yeah, I’m biased, but I’d say Stewart won. O’Reilly did make a few good points, but I think the whole gist of Stewart’s argument is this: Who gives a crap?

    President Obama and Michelle Obama (who did the inviting) are busy people. They enjoy music and poetry. Why should it be her responsibility or anyone’s responsibility to comb through this guy’s lyrics to find controversial lyrics or anything that would link him to someone undesirable. It seems like this whole debate is about Michelle Obama being horrible to invite Common to the White House and there seems to be an implication that, because the Obamas invited someone who is supposedly a supporter of cop killing, that Obama himself supports such heinous acts and that he hates cops himself. They support this notion by using his “they (Cambridge police) acted stupidly” as another apparent piece of evidence that Obama hates cops.

    Check this out:

    GREEN: Obama hits the links rather than honor police dead

    Anneke E. GreenPublished on May 15, 2011

    President Obama left the White House this morning a little after 9:30 am. He wasn’t on his way to the Capitol building, where grieving friends and families of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty hold a yearly commemorative service. Though he was invited to recognize the fallen and offer condolences by speaking at the annual Peace Officers’ Memorial Service, he instead spent this fine Sunday playing a round of golf with aide Ben Finkenbinder, White House trip director Marvin Nicholson and U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk.

    Every president deserves down time. But after offending police earlier this week by hosting a rapper at the White House whose corpus includes a song lauding a convicted cop-killer, blowing off their service in order to golf seems tone-deaf, if not outright callous. Badly done, Mr. President.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/may/15/obama-hits-links-rather-honor-police-dead/

    Obama is either severely tone deaf, or he’s an in-your-face, I don’t give a f*ck kinda guy.

  • Jaurez

    Nacho said:
    nd I don’t see too many viewers on MSNBC claiming them as their home team news outlet

    Huh? Who would? That would be like bragging about being a dumpster diver for christs sake…

  • OxyCon

    grafxmail7 said:
    Wow! This whole calling you out for being a PAID BLOGGER has really got to you!

    That’s HILARIOUS!

    ***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person……a PAID BLOGGER***

    Where do I sign up, lol?

    FYI, I have been paid before by George Soros to attack Bush and Republicans.

  • darladoon

    Jaurez said:
    Links, please.

    check miami police statistics (8 black men since november) from fall 2010 until today

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Deb-Moschkin/818188251 MadamDeb

    O’Reilly and FNC are just trying to deflect from the failures of the House Republicans and the achievements of the Obama administration and the Democrats.

  • WCinWI

    insideguy said:
    Jon Beat em but I do respect Bill for having Jon on to debate. Most righties would never take the chance. Jon always beats him and when Bill is losing he resorts to bad jokes to deflect. Plus Bill wins with the ratings and thats what he cares about:)

    Stewart goes on O’Reilly’s show all the time. Your point is moot as Bill is a moderate.

  • WCinWI

    OxyCon said:
    Where do I sign up, lol?

    FYI, I have been paid before by George Soros to attack Bush and Republicans.

    I’d like to know how to get paid too. :)

    I’m still on my original name. I’ve always wondered how many others are.

  • BFD: Widow Tormenter

    At first I thought Stewart was losing it. He wasn’t contesting anything Bill said.. O’Reilly was mopping the floor with him. It was over before it started.
    Then it was obvious Jon was just letting (helping lol) Bill get all his points out so he could decimate them.
    Classic rope-a-dope!

    I’m sure O’Reilly had quite a few choice words for his researchers (“The best in the business!”) when the show was over.

    “Why didn’t you get me Peltier!”
    “Why didn’t you get me Carter!”
    “Why didn’t you get me Springstein!”
    “Why didn’t you get me Liddy!”
    “I looked like a fool out there!”

    Twas also funny when Bill couldn’t even defend his own f*cking network…”Let’s talk about me!”

    I don’t think Bill is racist, but I think he played into the race-baiting by Tucker Carlson.
    There is something terribly wrong about immediately checking the background of a Black guest at the White House because there must be something there to destroy him with and then ignoring the fact that it had already happened many times before by White men.
    Just because you don’t know you are racist doesn’t mean you aren’t.

    There isn’t a day goes by that I am not disgusted by the portion of the America that teabaggers represent.

  • grafxmail7

    OxyCon said:
    Where do I sign up, lol?

    FYI, I have been paid before by George Soros to attack Bush and Republicans.

    How much do bloggers get paid to do this stuff that you did?

    How can you go from voting for Gore and Kerry to hating Obama?

  • Gasket

    Alz said:
    Nope, you’re clueless. Obam’s goal is to tear down our system. (Read up on Cloward-Piven and relate it to Alinsky.)

    Obama is a Modern Liberal/Progressive and he’s getting done what he can, but let’s be clear, the things he is doing are not designed to make things better, they’re designed to make things “equal” – equally poor and miserable.

    This is why these Modern Liberals/Progressives don’t care about budgets. It’s not just Obama, many States are screwed up by this liberalism too.

    Don’t boil over, step back and look at what they are doing to the country. And forget the liberal line that Conservatives like much of Bush’s economics because they don’t either.

    haven’t you ever wondered why the two sides are polar opposite on just about every substantive issue? It’s because of the “equal” vs better issue.

    I’ve explained parts of it many times here but need to crash now. I don’t know what kind of “leftist” you are, but this Modern Liberal/Progressive strain is just terrible.

    How can you type so much but say so little? Usual conservaturd drivel. Cluck..cluck..cluck..Alinsky…cluck..cluck..cluck…socialist…cluck..cluck..cluck…liberal..progressive..cluck..cluck..cluck…communist…cluck..cluck..cluck…ad nauseum. Vacuous commentary. Good job buddy…..really!

  • Gasket

    darladoon said:
    i’m not sure why law enforcement even gets a pass

    they kill innocent black guys not infrequently in my neck of the woods

    but if a black guy shoots a cop? whoa, baby! white people will never, ,ever forget that….

    he’ll have a highway named after him, he’ll get a bunch of medals, his wife will get full pension
    until she’s dead, all kinds of amazing goodies

    now, don’t get me wrong. police play a very important role, but they are not infallible.

    in fact, as i said, in my neck of the woods, they are very obviously infallible. and now, they
    have tasers….

    You are right. I say this all the time. I do not support all LEO. I support the good ones. There are a lot of shady cops out there…and the f*cking US Supreme Court gives them the benefit of doubt ALL the time like they just did by weakening the 4th amendment even further yesterday.

  • kvon

    My favorite part of this is when O’Reilly couldn’t defend the Bono and Bob Dylan similarities…and when he had to yell because he knew he was wrong.

  • darladoon

    Gasket said:
    You are right. I say this all the time. I do not support all LEO. I support the good ones. There are a lot of shady cops out there…and the f*cking US Supreme Court gives them the benefit of doubt ALL the time like they just did by weakening the 4th amendment even further yesterday.

    and you know, i think stewart sort of failed in this interview. he played the “both sides do it” card by saying that prior administrations invited people to the whise house (bono, dylan, et al) who apologized for cop-killers in their lyrics.

    stewart didn’t even need to go there. he could have said what i said: there are numerous cases of cops killing innocent people. and yet there would simply be no controversy if a president invited cops to the white house.

    you see what i’m saying?

    fox news made this a big deal because they hate obama, and they think that pretty much any rap star is a thug and a criminal.

    anyone who knows common’s work knows that he’s pretty much the softest of mainstream rappers.

    check out this killer remix one of one of his tunes, the lyrics are pure high school-level poetry slam romance

    seriously, folks! check out this track, it’s like a hawaiian dub rap groover……pure class

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7ocZ3efq3w

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryant-M-Chriss/1169616632 Bryant M Chriss

    To sum it up John stewart 2 Bill 0. The point of the debate without saying it is you have a black neo soul (not gangsta) hip hop artist coming to the White House. John stewart summed it up right there, there was no talk when Bush invited his controversal guest. But oh no, the hip hopper gangsta rapper is going to the white house with his I hate cops attitude. Give me a break, this is why Obama is going to get re elected because his oppenents dont have anything else to talk about.

  • BFD: Widow Tormenter

    WHY THE F*CK DOES BERNIE GOLDBERG GET TO HELP O’REILLY DEBATE STEWART AFTER JON HAS ALREADY LEFT?

    What kind of cheap horseshit is that?

    Typical Fox “Fair and Balanced”.
    If you lose the debate you can always get second at-bat with your own guy pitching.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Adam/1471630141 Michael Adam

    Another Faux pundit get pwned. What else is new. It’s not like they employ the best and brightest over there.

  • ChrisNH

    Stewart is a typical Leftist hypocrite: Getting livid at the ‘hate’ expressed for Obamo when THEY hated Bush for eight years. And whining about ‘racism’ to mask the REAL reasons why people dislike Obamo. ‘Selective outrage’ is purely a Leftist media tactic, that they themselves feast on.

  • TfT

    Lefties – who are the kings/queens of double standard telling FNC they have a double standard is really just too funny. Bill O wasn’t as well prepared as he should have been to counter Jon’s absurd suggestion that Common thinks the cop killer’s were wrongly convicted. What a bunch of hooey.

    matters not, lefties will stick with Jon, traditionalists will stick with Bill O onthis topic.

    And Common got his name elevated because he was feted at the WH.

    Cop Kller lovers of the word unite! Jon Stewarat will defend you at all costs.

  • skyfet

    Booya! ya big phony, you are defeated. Its not surprising to me that the joke called Hannity has been silenced about this issue since he was exposed, he found another bogeyman in the same form as Rev. Wright, but it blew in his phony face.

    How do you guys feel now for being embarrassed once again (after the Birther crap). I hope you don’t hurt yourself over these recent failures, and not forgetting the friendly fire from The Newt.

    How do you guys console yourself over all these failures, from The Newt to the Huck, to The Donald, Ryan budget collapsing and blowing in ya face, BC, loosing the battle before it began is sad.

  • Nacho

    TfT said:
    Lefties – who are the kings/queens of double standard telling FNC they have a double standard is really just too funny. Bill O wasn’t as well prepared as he should have been to counter Jon’s absurd suggestion that Common thinks the cop killer’s were wrongly convicted. What a bunch of hooey.

    matters not, lefties will stick with Jon, traditionalists will stick with Bill O onthis topic.

    And Common got his name elevated because he was feted at the WH.

    Cop Kller lovers of the word unite! Jon Stewarat will defend you at all costs.

    Yeah, another liberal media gotcha moment where they suckered O’Reilly onto their stage to get ‘em!

    You’re a right wing Fox extremist that will fight the death, damned be the facts.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    When will King Obama demand all courts set up a Rapper Panel to review all cop killings and decide that the perp is innocent , plus the cop was asking for it ?

  • Nacho

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    When will King Obama demand all courts set up a Rapper Panel to review all cop killings and decide that the perp is innocent , plus the cop was asking for it ?

    Rite? It’s only a matter of tyme.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    skyfet said:
    Booya! ya big phony

    Don’t worry .

    Be happy .

    You are one weird little monkey .

  • Nacho

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Don’t worry .

    Be happy .

    You are one weird little monkey .

    Soon monkeys are going to be the only people on the Obama’s dinner guest list. Right, bro…

  • TfT

    Wasn’t it Erin Burnett (then of CNBC now of CNN) who saw a picture of Bush with two other peple and said:

    “the monkey in the middle”?

    Presidents have been called monkeys since time bagan- it has nothing to do with race, it just with hehimself, the thinskinned manchild, criticism is not allowed or you are a racist.

  • trica

    This time I totally agree with Stewart. Selective Outrage. He wowed me on this, and man did he have it all over Billo!

  • Nacho

    TfT said:
    Wasn’t it Erin Burnett (then of CNBC now of CNN) who saw a picture of Bush with two other peple and said:

    “the monkey in the middle”?

    Presidents have been called monkeys since time bagan- it has nothing to do with race, it just with hehimself, the thinskinned manchild, criticism is not allowed or you are a racist.

    Yeah, you’re right. It’s a double standard. You won this round, Stewart aint gots nothin’ on you, home boy.

  • BFD: Widow Tormenter

    TfT said:
    Presidents have been called monkeys since time bagan- it has nothing to do with race, it just with hehimself, the thinskinned manchild, criticism is not allowed or you are a racist.

    Yes, presidents have been called monkeys by their detractors for centuries.
    And Blacks have been called monkeys by racists for centuries.
    The difficult part is telling who is who.

    I’m guessing you’re the latter.

  • TangledThorns

    I have never seen Stewart squirm so much, O’Reilly was solid as a rock. O’Reilly was the teacher and Stewart was the student.

  • BFD: Widow Tormenter

    TangledThorns said:
    I have never seen Stewart squirm so much, O’Reilly was solid as a rock. O’Reilly was the teacher and Stewart was the student.

    lol…I guess O’Reilly won the body language contest!

    Too bad Jon kicked his ass in the war on words.

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    Dem4Ever, The Lantern of Truth, juan, Arkansas Steve, murf, Jaurez/WCinWI, Barack Must Go, NOBAMA, Colorado_Conservative, gordonbloyershow
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  • Azarkhan
  • Nacho
  • Nacho

    TangledThorns said:
    I have never seen Stewart squirm so much, O’Reilly was solid as a rock. O’Reilly was the teacher and Stewart was the student.

    Run Sarah Run!

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
    lol…I guess O’Reilly won the body language contest!

    Too bad Jon kicked his ass in the war on words.

    ______________________________________________________________
    CAUTION: BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THESE EX-BIRTHERS, THEY ARE ARMED AND IGNORANT…

    Dem4Ever, The Lantern of Truth, juan, Arkansas Steve, murf, Jaurez/WCinWI, Barack Must Go, NOBAMA, Colorado_Conservative, gordonbloyershow
    TeaPartyPatriot, notsofast, Severian, Dronetek, TfT, mitchflorida, skoorbekim
    mdanielson, Harry Flashman, OxyCon and NORBIT

    Perhaps, the battery is his insertion device had run out.

  • BFD: Widow Tormenter

    TangledThorns said:
    I have never seen Stewart squirm so much, O’Reilly was solid as a rock.

    Also, Jon was probably dizzy from breathing all the foxygen.

    ______________________________________________________________
    CAUTION: BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THESE EX-BIRTHERS, THEY ARE ARMED AND IGNORANT…

    Dem4Ever, The Lantern of Truth, juan, Arkansas Steve, murf, Jaurez/WCinWI, Barack Must Go, NOBAMA, Colorado_Conservative, gordonbloyershow
    TeaPartyPatriot, notsofast, Severian, Dronetek, TfT, mitchflorida, skoorbekim
    mdanielson, Harry Flashman, OxyCon and NORBIT

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    Azarkhan said:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/schwarzenegger-reveals-he-had-a-child-with-a-member-of-household-staff/

    Whilst this qualifies Arnold to run in the Republican Primary for President, he still has to produce a long form birth certificate showing he is a natural born American citizen, you know.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Bravo, Johnny Boy.

  • skyfet

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Don’t worry .

    Be happy .

    You are one weird little monkey .

    lol, this is what you’ve been reduced to, calling me a monkey. I must have touched a tea bag nerve? Sorry, if I hurt your feelings, I just need you to pull your head out of your ass.

  • skyfet

    THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
    Whilst this qualifies Arnold to run in the Republican Primary for President, he still has to produce a long form birth certificate showing he is a natural born American citizen, you know.

    Austrian BC. By the way, it does amaze me that the folks who wanted to change the constitution for Arny are now crying out loud that someone isn’t a natural born citizen. How time changes.

    Bob Dylan was right, times are a changing.

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    skyfet said:
    Austrian BC. By the way, it does amaze me that the folks who wanted to change the constitution for Arny are now crying out loud that someone isn’t a natural born citizen. How time changes.

    Bob Dylan was right, times are a changing.

    Yes, but have you seen that Austrian birth certificate? I haven’t. For all we know he may really be a US citizen. Why is he waiting? Why is he spending millions of dollars to hide his birth certificate?

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  • Alz

    Gasket said:
    How can you type so much but say so little? Usual conservaturd drivel. Cluck..cluck..cluck..Alinsky…cluck..cluck..cluck…socialist…cluck..cluck..cluck…liberal..progressive..cluck..cluck..cluck…communist…cluck..cluck..cluck…ad nauseum. Vacuous commentary. Good job buddy…..really!

    I’m not writing for you…I’m writing for the people who are in the middle, the people who don’t know they are Conservative.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Alz said:
    I’m not writing for you…I’m writing for the people who are in the middle, the people who don’t know they are Conservative.

    Why do you troll so much?

  • TangledThorns

    Obama, y u no like cops?!?

  • Barack Must Go

    grafxmail7 said:
    You go to Star Trek conventions?

    It makes much sense now why you’re such a CLOWN!!

    HAHAHAHHAH!!!!

    You really are on the balls.

  • Barack Must Go

    grafxmail7 said:
    Is Chicken Little Beck your God?

    Is that who told you that the President is racist?

    ….or was it all those ‘code’ words that you’re being fed?

    Still on the balls.

  • Barack Must Go

    kvon said:
    When did Republicans and Conservatives become enormous pussies? Seriously, why do you guys whine about everything nowadays?

    Take your hand out of your skirt, you’re making yourself all confused.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Jon Stewart To Bill O’Reilly: ‘There Is A Selective Outrage Machine Here At Fox’… pretty epic take down of the alleged controversy…As Stewart sees it though, the only reason that Common is considered a “controversial” rapper is because Fox News trumped up that narrative and repeated it on its opinion shows repeatedly.

    Yea, because the Liberal MSM has NEVER trumped up controversy, displayed massive amounts of hypocrisy, trumped a narrative, created controversy, displayed selective outrage, displayed faux outrage, or gone after or attacked someone because they disagree with the politics of someone tied to them….

    Schultz Alleges Voter Fraud on ‘Dancing With the Stars,’ Lib Guest Says Bristol Palin ‘Sucks’

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/11/17/schultz-alleges-voter-fraud-dancing-stars-lib-guest-says-bristol-pali#ixzz1Mc1YkhKH

    MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer: Bristol Palin Success On “Dancing” Due To Tea Party

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/17/msnbcs_contessa_brewer_bristol_palin_success_on_dancing_due_to_tea_party.html

    The politics that keep Bristol shimmying on ‘Dancing’

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40078804/ns/today-entertainment/t/politics-keep-bristol-shimmying-dancing/

    Jon Stewart Tackles The Palin “Family Media Circus”

    Bristol Palin Talks Tea Party DWTSConspiracy Theories With Greta Van Susteren

    Threatening Letter, White Powder Forced Evacuation At Dancing With The Stars

    Sarah Palin On Bristol’s DWTS Effort: ‘Haters Are Going To Hate… So We Might As Well Dance’

    Bristol Palin Finishes Third On Dancing With The Stars Finale

    Mediaite’s Rachel Sklar on Joy Behar Talking TSA, Cavity Searches, and Wills & Kate

    Bristol Palin “Is Such A Hooker,” Sandra Bernhard Shrills To Joy Behar

    Sarah Palin Forced Bristol To Do Dancing With The Stars, Claims Margaret Cho

    Jennifer Grey On Beating A Palin: “It Feels Damn Good”

    Bristol Palin Agrees Keith Olbermann is a ‘Dick,’ But is Willing to Go on His Show

    Bristol Palin Blasts Keith Olbermann For “Worst Person” Segment

    Kathy Griffin Gets Booed By U.S. Troops After Calling Bristol Palin Fat

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    Bristol Palin’s Success On Dancing With The Stars Sent Viewers Complaining To The FCC

    Man So Angry At Bristol Palin Winning In DWTS That He Shot His TV With A Shotgun

    Bristol Palin Advances To Dancing With The Stars Finale—Thanks To The Tea Party?

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  • gottosay

    I am just shocked the a word was allowed

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    Stewart (and the MSM) used to rail on the president about Gitmo, wiretaps, unnecessary wars and high gas prices. None of that happens anymore. Looks like selective outrage to me.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Dronetek said:
    Stewart (and the MSM) used to rail on the president about Gitmo, wiretaps, unnecessary wars and high gas prices. None of that happens anymore. Looks like selective outrage to me.

    I was just going to say that! Talk about selective outrage, indeed!

  • donalan

    this is interesting troll bait for those on the right – interesting. I wonder why they would be so entranced by a non-issue such as this?

    Yes yes I know ‘the world is not fair’ everyone picks on white people, Obama is evil (because, um, well there really are no reasons; he is executing the wars and economy better than W). Is the reason this is such a big deal because every real issue is a loss leader for the Right – “its a bingo…”

  • Nacho

    sarainitaly said:
    I was just going to say that! Talk about selective outrage, indeed!

    So tit for tat is the game?

    That is a poor argument about the current state of affairs.

  • donalan

    sarainitaly said:
    I was just going to say that! Talk about selective outrage, indeed!

    Lol you are just ignorant. You agree with someone that says Stewart no longer criticizes Obama over GITMO – try this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/jon-stewart-guantanamo_n_833942.html

    I really dont feel like spending another 10 seconds on google because you are too lazy and ignorant to match your outrage to actual FACTS. Lazy – thats all the Right is these days.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
    At first I thought Stewart was losing it. He wasn’t contesting anything Bill said.. O’Reilly was mopping the floor with him. It was over before it started.
    Then it was obvious Jon was just letting (helping lol) Bill get all his points out so he could decimate them.
    Classic rope-a-dope!

    I’m sure O’Reilly had quite a few choice words for his researchers (“The best in the business!”) when the show was over.

    “Why didn’t you get me Peltier!”
    “Why didn’t you get me Carter!”
    “Why didn’t you get me Springstein!”
    “Why didn’t you get me Liddy!”
    “I looked like a fool out there!”

    Twas also funny when Bill couldn’t even defend his own f*cking network…”Let’s talk about me!”

    I don’t think Bill is racist, but I think he played into the race-baiting by Tucker Carlson.
    There is something terribly wrong about immediately checking the background of a Black guest at the White House because there must be something there to destroy him with and then ignoring the fact that it had already happened many times before by White men.
    Just because you don’t know you are racist doesn’t mean you aren’t.

    There isn’t a day goes by that I am not disgusted by the portion of the America that teabaggers represent.

    Can you imagine the broken hearts in America, just now!

    And what amazes me is, you people stay up all night composing
    this stupid crap!

    Well, I guess if you are not disturbing the other residents at the
    Nursing Home, no harm done!

  • roxsteady

    Another epic face plant for Bill O! Nice work Jon!

  • TheEagle

    donalan said:
    Lol you are just ignorant. You agree with someone that says Stewart no longer criticizes Obama over GITMO – try this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/jon-stewart-guantanamo_n_833942.html

    I really dont feel like spending another 10 seconds on google because you are too lazy and ignorant to match your outrage to actual FACTS. Lazy – thats all the Right is these days.

    They never let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

  • http://dandmb50.wordpress.com/ dandmb50

    @dandmb50 – Actually, Stewart made a good rebuttal, and made O’Reilly look like a fool, which isn’t hard to do sometimes. His campaign, was wrong and going no-where, but one thing he may be right about is that I don’t think the Obama group knew about Common. It’s ‘Not real,’ it’s music, poems. So if someone plays the part of a terrorist in a movie, he can’t visit the WH?

    Daniel .. Toronto, CANADA
    http://bit.ly/DMBwp

  • valkyrie101

    Here is a classic HoneyMooner clip: “One of these days, alice, pow, right in the kisser.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbCv6b96OK0

    Does this clip celebrate domestic violence?

  • Vietnameravet

    Of course Fox is an arm of the Republican party appealing to cry baby conservatives who spread the most hateful lies but whine and whine when someone calls them on it,

    Fox has broadcast and/or created story after story about Obama being a closet Muslim who hates white people and has no understand of American values. They charge he wants to sell us out to our enemies, pull the plug on grandma, creates internment camps and a private army. They have made constant references and comparisons to Hitler, Stalin, communists, nazis and socialists. They find every little blemish they can and express great outrage but where was their outrage when it was discovered that Bush was warned in advance about Bin Ladin about to strike in the US and did nothing? Where was their outrage when it was discovered that the war in Iraq was for WMDs that were never there? Nowhere and you cant tell me if Obama had done the same they would be as quiet!

    They have a whole host of people wrapping themselves in the flag as most conservatives do as they spread their poison.. and one poster here tries to tell us that some minor controversy regarding Dancing with the Stars is proof that both sides are equally guilty! What a joke!!

    Here is a flash for you cry baby conservatives.. anything you get in return is a result of your decades long attempt to smear and discredit anyone that disagrees with your hateful attacks which have ripped this country apart. Your economic and military philosophies have dug this country a hole we may never get out of and your attempts to deny this by going on the attack with wild unfounded charges are caused by your inability to recognize the damage you have done and I can only concluded that your rabid hatred of Obama is the result of your own fear of change most symbolized by a black family in the White House.

    And in all this Fox news is complicit.

  • writer

    Sort of like the selective outrage in calling Beck anti-Semitic, while ignoring Rev. Wright.

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    donalan said:
    sarainitaly said:
    I was just going to say that! Talk about selective outrage, indeed!

    Lol you are just ignorant. You agree with someone that says Stewart no longer criticizes Obama over GITMO – try this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/jon-stewart-guantanamo_n_833942.html

    I really dont feel like spending another 10 seconds on google because you are too lazy and ignorant to match your outrage to actual FACTS. Lazy – thats all the Right is these days.

    I have to say I agree. Beyond that, I find Tumbleweed’s obsession with Brisket Palin most unsettling. It all has a stage mother quality to it.

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    writer said:
    Sort of like the selective outrage in calling Beck anti-Semitic, while ignoring Rev. Wright.

    … or talking about processed cheese products, focusing on Velveeta and ignoring Cheez Whiz. You bring the Crackers.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    RobertThe RealRoyalVanO’King ® muses . Yesterday at the salon , BFD and I were sitting around talking about our favorite cop killers . skyfet was in the corner , playing with a ball of yarn and mumbling incoherently as usual . We had solved some of the major problems that morning . BFD had agreed to steal his hubcaps at least two blocks away and not in our parking lot . skyfet had demanded to be paid for his manicures in toothpicks because he had a toothpick holder he wanted to fill . I agreed and the weight of the world was off my puny shoulders ( but not my enormous gut ) . I just want to say …that I’m proud …proud to live in Amerika where we have a King who despises cops as much as I do … in an Amerika where we have noble Rap Artists who are able to ignore our old justice system and decide who is not guilty …no matter the enormous amount of evidence , confessions , eyewitnesses , etc. and la-de dah . Long live Amerika !! ©

  • writer

    If the King wasn’t a church goer, I’d think he meant ‘crackers’ as a slur.

  • Jaurez

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Why do you troll so much?

    sez the troll….

  • DaTruth

    Stewart’s mentioning of Peltier and Carter were way off the mark, and can’t in any way be compared to “Shakur”. There is no controversy over her guilt like a case “could” be made for Peltier and Carter. And as regards Peltier and Bono, let’s look at the actual history of the so-called song for him by U2:

    From wiki:

    “Native Son” a song by U2, was originally written about Peltier. The title was later changed (along with the subject matter) and it became the Grammy Award-winning song “Vertigo”, though it was no longer about Peltier. The original version of the song was later included on the Unreleased and Rare and U2: Medium, Rare and Unreleased albums. U2 has never stated publicly why the subject matter was changed.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Peltier

    Hardly sounds like the glowing endorsement of the man that Stewart would have you believe. So much for that argument, Stewart. Next?

  • http://activitypit.ning.com/profile/massmurdermedia MASSMURDERMEDIA

    Dem4Ever said:
    Fact one:  Every single one of  us know that this ‘Common’ fellow is glorifying a “cop killer”, as well as, the murderous act of killing cops.  

    Fact two:  This convicted murderer has escaped justice and is living in a foreign and hostile country protected from our justice system by that country.

    Question:  When is BO going to get the murderer Mumia Abu-Jamal like he joyfully claimed he got Osama Bin Ladin?

    1 fact and an answer:

    you’re confusing your convicted murderers, which is understandable when rappers are spreading love for multiple cop killers… it’s the chick who escaped to cuba, abu-jamal is in prison… but maybe obama should send seal team 6 after him anyway…

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    sarainitaly said:
    Dronetek said:
    Stewart (and the MSM) used to rail on the president about Gitmo, wiretaps, unnecessary wars and high gas prices. None of that happens anymore. Looks like selective outrage to me.
    I was just going to say that! Talk about selective outrage, indeed!

    donalan said:
    Lol you are just ignorant. You agree with someone that says Stewart no longer criticizes Obama over GITMO – try this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/jon-stewart-guantanamo_n_833942.html

    I really dont feel like spending another 10 seconds on google because you are too lazy and ignorant to match your outrage to actual FACTS. Lazy – thats all the Right is these days.

    i am agreeing with him about the MSM. I like Stewart, and don’t consider him a news person, but a comedian. He tosses in a lefty criticism every once in a while, but no where near what he did against the Right.

    But, if that’s your proof that Stewart is *railing* against Obama for Gitmo, it is sorely lacking. And if you’ll notice the news clips contained within the piece, I would hardly say the MSM is railing against Obama for it, either. More like *excusing* it.

    Did you even watch the clip, or were you too lazy?

  • justanotherconservative

    If inviting a rapper thug who celebrates cop killing to the White House during the same week that fallen police officers are honored is not a message from Obama then nothing is.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    DaTruth said:
    Hardly sounds like the glowing endorsement of the man that Stewart would have you believe. So much for that argument, Stewart. Next?

    i was going to add that, but figured it wouldn’t change their minds…. i don’t think the song Native Son was released until 2009, either.

    And the song Dylan wrote, wasn’t the Champ released because he didn’t do it?

  • DaTruth

    sarainitaly said:
    i was going to add that, but figured it wouldn’t change their minds…. i don’t think the song Native Son was released until 2009, either.

    And the song Dylan wrote, wasn’t the Champ released because he didn’t do it?

    You are correct. A federal district court overturned the convictions and NJ prosecuters later decided it was not worthwhile to try him yet again.

    That’s my point…there were enough reasons to be doubtful about Carter’s guilt, and even some inconsistencies with Peltier. But as for Chesimard/Shakur, it’s absurd. She’s a cold-blooded killer. Same for Mumia, notwithstanding the left-wing celebrity support he gets.

    Ask Michael Smerconish about Mumia. Smerconish frequently appears on MSNBC, considers himself very fair to Obama (much to the chagrin of some conservative radio hosts). He’s from Philly and knows the Mumia case so well that he actually penned a book about it with the deceased police officer’s wife.

    So Stewart totally fails on these comparisons.

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:
    i am agreeing with him about the MSM. I like Stewart, and don’t consider him a news person, but a comedian. He tosses in a lefty criticism every once in a while, but no where near what he did against the Right.

    But, if that’s your proof that Stewart is *railing* against Obama for Gitmo, it is sorely lacking. And if you’ll notice the news clips contained within the piece, I would hardly say the MSM is railing against Obama for it, either. More like *excusing* it.

    Did you even watch the clip, or were you too lazy?

    I don’t think he’s “throwing in” anything. I think it’s his honest opinion of the situation. he’s repeatedly had criticism of obama and to discount it is being intentionally dishonest.

  • Nationman

    DaTruth said:
    You are correct. A federal district court overturned the convictions and NJ prosecuters later decided it was not worthwhile to try him yet again.

    That’s my point…there were enough reasons to be doubtful about Carter’s guilt, and even some inconsistencies with Peltier. But as for Chesimard/Shakur, it’s absurd. She’s a cold-blooded killer. Same for Mumia, notwithstanding the left-wing celebrity support he gets.

    Ask Michael Smerconish about Mumia. Smerconish frequently appears on MSNBC, considers himself very fair to Obama (much to the chagrin of some conservative radio hosts). He’s from Philly and knows the Mumia case so well that he actually penned a book about it with the deceased police officer’s wife.

    So Stewart totally fails on these comparisons.

    to be honest that doesn’t really go against anything stewart just said. You’re essentially arguing that common is wrong about them being innocent.

  • Nationman

    seriously though, I remember seeing those clips on fox accusing common of being violent and misogynistic which is clearly not the case. Pretty much everyone of his songs are about the exact opposite, about stopping violence and misogyny. Clearly this is some cooked up bullshit that roger ailes wants to serve us.

  • Latin2

    The difference between Common and Bono, Dylan and Bruce Springteen is that they weren’t AGAINST INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE AND DATING?

    Stewart tried to make the moral equivalence between other artists and Common, but the other artists never said they were against whites and blacks dating.

    Common said that if you date interracial you don’t like yourself.

    UH….THAT IS RACIST.

    …and he said that in 2005.

    You Liberals do know that when someone says they are against interracial dating and marriage that is racist?

    One of the other poets invited was Jill Scott…WHO IS ALSO AGAINST INTERRACIAL DATING AND MARRIAGE. She even wrote an article in Essence that when a friend told her he was married to a white women her soul wince inside.

    So you cannot compare Bono, Dylan and Springteen with poets who disapprove of blacks and whites dating and marrying….you know like the same marriage that created Barack Obama.

    In case you Liberals don’t know…when someone says that blacks and whites should not date or marry…THAT IS RACIST.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    The difference between Common and Bono, Dylan and Bruce Springteen is that they weren’t AGAINST INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE AND DATING?

    Stewart tried to make the moral equivalence between other artists and Common, but the other artists never said they were against whites and blacks dating.

    Common said that if you date interracial you don’t like yourself.

    UH….THAT IS RACIST.

    …and he said that in 2005.

    You Liberals do know that when someone says they are against interracial dating and marriage that is racist?

    One of the other poets invited was Jill Scott…WHO IS ALSO AGAINST INTERRACIAL DATING AND MARRIAGE. She even wrote an article in Essence that when a friend told her he was married to a white women her soul wince inside.

    So you cannot compare Bono, Dylan and Springteen with poets who disapprove of blacks and whites dating and marrying….you know like the same marriage that created Barack Obama.

    In case you Liberals don’t know…when someone says that blacks and whites should not date or marry…THAT IS RACIST.

    So against interracial marriage is common that he supports our first interracial president.

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    So against interracial marriage is common that he supports our first interracial president.

    Oh today, Obama is interracial…most Liberals are saying that he is black.

    It shows that Common is not only a racist, cop killer lover,, but a hypocrite and idiot.

    Just because he supports Obama today, a mere 6 years ago he was against blacks and white marrying and dating.

    Has the media asked if Common has DENOUNCED his recent racist beliefs? Or is the Media to busy attacking the messenger?

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    Oh today, Obama is interracial…most Liberals are saying that he is black.

    It shows that Common is not only a racist, cop killer lover,, but a hypocrite and idiot.

    Just because he supports Obama today, a mere 6 years ago he was against blacks and white marrying and dating.

    Has the media asked if Common has DENOUNCED his recent racist beliefs? Or is the Media to busy attacking the messenger?

    oh of course, but somebody like ted nugent threatening the president is a ok. keep on in that world of imagination you live in.

  • Nationman

    “The one thing that shouldn’t be questioned is my support for the police officers and troops that protect us every day”- common.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Nationman said:
    I don’t think he’s “throwing in” anything. I think it’s his honest opinion of the situation. he’s repeatedly had criticism of obama and to discount it is being intentionally dishonest.

    i agree he has criticized obama at times. you can’t honestly tell me you think Stewart spends anywhere near the same amount of time criticizing the left as the right? or that the Left has held Obama to the same criticisms as they did Bush wrt Gitmo, wiretapping, renditions, the wars, etc?

    I am not discounting Stewart when he actually does criticize Obama… I am discounting that clip that was provided as evidence that Stewart was (anything close to) *railing* against Obama wrt Gitmo.

    Something tells me donalan was too lazy to actually watch it, but preferred to call me ignorant and lazy, while failing to make his point.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Nationman said:
    oh of course, but somebody like ted nugent threatening the president is a ok. keep on in that world of imagination you live in.

    he didn’t threaten the President.

    And where did anyone here saying it was A-Ok to threaten a President?

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:
    he didn’t threaten the President.

    And where did anyone here saying it was A-Ok to threaten a President?

    He told the president to suck on a machine gun.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Nationman said:
    He told the president to suck on a machine gun.

    no, he didn’t.
    it happened in 2007.
    he was not president.

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    no, he didn’t.
    it happened in 2007.
    he was not president.

    So telling a US Senator to suck on a machine gun is OK with you? Is that the line of your moral outrage?

  • Latin2

    TheEagle said:
    So telling a US Senator to suck on a machine gun is OK with you? Is that the line of your moral outrage?

    Yet Liberals saying that the sitting president should be killed is more acceptable?

    Liberals would constantly say that Bush should be murdered and THAT WAS WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT. Liberals even glorified a movie about the assassination of Pres. Bush while he was in office. Yet their was NO outrage by Liberals.

    Now back to Common.

    Why would the white house invite a guy who IS AGAINST BLACKS AND WHITES DATING AND MARRYING?

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:

    And where did anyone here saying it was A-Ok to threaten a President?

    they certainly haven’t criticized him for it.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    Yet Liberals saying that the sitting president should be killed is more acceptable?

    Liberals would constantly say that Bush should be murdered and THAT WAS WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT. Liberals even glorified a movie about the assassination of Pres. Bush while he was in office. Yet their was NO outrage by Liberals.

    which liberals said that? anyone with a major position or are you justtalking out of your ass again?

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    Yet Liberals saying that the sitting president should be killed is more acceptable?

    Liberals would constantly say that Bush should be murdered and THAT WAS WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT. Liberals even glorified a movie about the assassination of Pres. Bush while he was in office. Yet their was NO outrage by Liberals.

    which liberals said that? anyone with a major position or are you just talking out of your ass again?

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:
    no, he didn’t.
    it happened in 2007.
    he was not president.

    so the office matters not the life of the person?

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    they certainly haven’t criticized him for it.

    I am still waiting for Liberals to denounce all the Liberals who thought it was OK to kill THE LAST PRESIDENT. So when will that happen?

    You see you NOW can’t act out with FAKE outrage, when you Liberals didn’t denounce your fellow Liberals saying it was OK to kill PRESIDENT Bush just a couple of years ago.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:

    Now back to Common.

    Why would the white house invite a guy who IS AGAINST BLACKS AND WHITES DATING AND MARRYING?

    why would common agree to be invited if he is against black and whites dating and marrying? The hypocrite thing just doesn’t seem like a strong argument. If the guy says or does anything you will find a way to criticize him for it because that’s the kind of hypocritical morons you are.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    I am still waiting for Liberals to denounce all the Liberals who thought it was OK to kill THE LAST PRESIDENT. So when will that happen?

    You see you NOW can’t act out with FAKE outrage, when you Liberals didn’t denounce your fellow Liberals saying it was OK to kill PRESIDENT Bush just a couple of years ago.

    I’ll do it, anybody who threatens the life of a potus, current or past, is a complete jackass. But you still haven’t answered my question, which major liberals have done that?

  • Nationman

    Nationman said:
    I’ll do it, anybody who threatens the life of a potus, current or past, is a complete jackass. But you still haven’t answered my question, which major liberals have done that?

    *have threatened the life of GWB?

  • donalan

    sarainitaly said:
    i am agreeing with him about the MSM. I like Stewart, and don’t consider him a news person, but a comedian. He tosses in a lefty criticism every once in a while, but no where near what he did against the Right.

    But, if that’s your proof that Stewart is *railing* against Obama for Gitmo, it is sorely lacking. And if you’ll notice the news clips contained within the piece, I would hardly say the MSM is railing against Obama for it, either. More like *excusing* it.

    Did you even watch the clip, or were you too lazy?

    In the Stewart segment on GITMO he lays bare the blatant hypocrisy of Obama’s stance on that issue with Facts and sarcasm. Are you sure you were watching the right clip or is yelling and screaming the only form of ridicule you are able to comprehend (that’s rhetorical for you)?

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    which liberals said that? anyone with a major position or are you just talking out of your ass again?

    You are a typical ignorant Liberal with a very short memory…probably because you are brain dead;

    I guess you forgot about this movie that was a big hit in Liberal circles. A movie about the ASSINATION OF PRESIDENT BUSH;

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2006/08/31/controversy_wat/

    See the comments from Liberals below the article.

    Many Liberals said it was “freedom of speech” to make a movie about the assassination of President Bush…today they are the same ones WHINING AND CRYING when anyone says something bad about Obama.

  • Latin2

    That was ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT BUSH. Note the comments of Liberals BACK IN 2006 when Bush was president.

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2006/08/31/controversy_wat/

  • Persistence

    Barack Must Go said:
    This one, with Barack Obama in our White House will go down in History as way darker, black even.

    OK. If you’re NOT a racist douche bag … despite the crushing proof of your collective posts … it could only be because of some morally recognizable incompetence. Mental illness; legal infancy; something else? Get back to your doctor, or your mommy, and get some help.

    No, you are not a “conservative.” Your opinions aren’t even good fringe material.

    Don’t even bother whining about being attacked by “libs” or any one of the other phoney labels you think are insulting. They aren’t. People aren’t laughing with you; they’re laughing at you.

    And, for goodness sake, be a little more careful. When you’re an adult, you might have to live some of this down. How “anonymous” do you really think all of this is?

  • Latin2

    When Common sang about “Burning Bush” – Bush was the President.

    AND when Common said that blacks who date whites have self hate…he said that in 2006.

    Which is not that long ago…I believe 2006 was the same year Liberals were loving the movie about the assassination of Pres. Bush.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    TheEagle said:
    So telling a US Senator to suck on a machine gun is OK with you? Is that the line of your moral outrage?

    where did i EVER say it was ok?

    You said he threatened the POTUS – that is not true.
    I am correcting your falsehood.

  • grafxmail7

    sarainitaly said:
    I was just going to say that! Talk about selective outrage, indeed!

    sarainitaly said:
    no, he didn’t.
    it happened in 2007.
    he was not president.

    You’re defending Ted Nugent now?

    Where’s your selective outrage calling out Nugent for saying this about someone YOU VOTED FOR in the next sentence after saying Obama should suck on a machine gun?

    “Hey Hillary, You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.”

    Is hypocrisy something you’ve mastered in Italy?

  • Leckan

    Man I just love Jon Stewart.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Nationman said:
    they certainly haven’t criticized him for it.

    not true.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Nationman said:
    so the office matters not the life of the person?

    where did i say that?

    you just love making shit up, don’t you?

    you said “oh of course, but somebody like ted nugent threatening the president is a ok. keep on in that world of imagination you live in.”

    he was not president. you were factually incorrect. repeatedly. perhaps it is you who is living in a world of imagination.

    you seem unable to keep your facts straight, and you insist on making things up….

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    donalan said:
    In the Stewart segment on GITMO he lays bare the blatant hypocrisy of Obama’s stance on that issue with Facts and sarcasm. Are you sure you were watching the right clip or is yelling and screaming the only form of ridicule you are able to comprehend (that’s rhetorical for you)?

    LMAO! yea, he really gave it to him good. hahaha

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    grafxmail7 said:
    You’re defending Ted Nugent now?

    Where’s your selective outrage calling out Nugent for saying this about someone YOU VOTED FOR in the next sentence after saying Obama should suck on a machine gun?

    “Hey Hillary, You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.”

    Is hypocrisy something you’ve mastered in Italy?

    please show me where i am defending Nugent.

    Where is my selective outrage? this happened three years ago.
    and you are correct, he attacked someone i voted for and supported. do you think i liked it? nope.
    did i get my panties in a twist over some stupid shit Ted Nugent said at a rock concert? nope.
    but i didn’t like, or appreciate it.

    again, please show me where i am defending him.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    grafxmail7 said:
    Where’s your selective outrage

    did you get outraged when Sandra Bernard said, “Sarah Palin will be “gang-raped by my big black brothers” if she enters Manhattan. Or called Palin a “Whore in Your F*****g Cheap-Ass Plastic Glasses”
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f7a_1221841717

    Or when Randi Rhodes repeatedly called Hillary a “big f***ing whore”

    Did you get all outragey when Madonna said she would kick Sarah Palins ass if she didn’t, “get off my street”?

    Did you get outraged when SNL did a skit implying Todd Palin has sex with his daughters?

  • winning

    Colby Hall: “Stewart had been invited on the show last week after he had delivered what some had described as a pretty epic take down of the alleged controversy ..”

    Whoa… Mediate writes a headline, and then they refer to _their own_ headline as proof of “what some had described”?? WTF?

    Pretty bad man, you guys are doubly pathetic today.

  • Jerps

    “What some had described”

    All news outlets do it. “Some people say” allows the ‘objective’ reporter/columnist/pundit/talking-head/whatever get in their opinions. “Some people say Common is outrageous.” “Some people say the world is a better place with Huckabee not running for president.” “Some people say Wendy’s chicken nuggets are better than McDonald’s.”

    I thought they had a good debate and Stewart won. Even Goldberg afterwards seemed like he agreed with Stewart more, even brought up Hannity’s hypocrisy about Ted Nugent.

  • http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

    sarainitaly said:
    did you get outraged when Sandra Bernard said, “Sarah Palin will be “gang-raped by my big black brothers” if she enters Manhattan.

    SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!111 Because Sandra Bernard (sic) is ALL OVER MSPEE-ON-ME, being invited on ALL of their shows and treated like a POLITICAL EXPERT!!!!!!!111 Who could have missed her OUTRAGEOUS appearance on Morning Joe and her SPECIAL COMMENT on foreign policy when she filled in for Olbermann?!?!?!1111

  • TheEagle

    Latin2 said:
    Yet Liberals saying that the sitting president should be killed is more acceptable?

    Liberals would constantly say that Bush should be murdered and THAT WAS WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT. Liberals even glorified a movie about the assassination of Pres. Bush while he was in office. Yet their was NO outrage by Liberals.

    Who? I never remember anyone of note saying that.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Karl Spensen said:
    SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!111 Because Sandra Bernard (sic) is ALL OVER MSPEE-ON-ME, being invited on ALL of their shows and treated like a POLITICAL EXPERT!!!!!!!111 Who could have missed her OUTRAGEOUS appearance on Morning Joe and her SPECIAL COMMENT on foreign policy when she filled in for Olbermann?!?!?!1111

    ‘The Rachel Maddow Show’
    Guests: Ron Mott, Jeffrey McMurray, Jeremy Scahill, Sandra Bernhard
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33058032/

    The Rachel Maddow Show guest Sandra Bernhard
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/33028252#33028252

    The Rachel Maddow Show guest Sandra Bernhard
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/33090650#33090650

    The Today Show
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32984714#32984714

    HLN Joy Behar Show
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/26/comedian_sandra_bernhard_bristol_palin_is_such_a_hooker.html

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Karl Spensen said:
    SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!111 Because Sandra Bernard (sic) is ALL OVER MSPEE-ON-ME, being invited on ALL of their shows and treated like a POLITICAL EXPERT!!!!!!!111 Who could have missed her OUTRAGEOUS appearance on Morning Joe and her SPECIAL COMMENT on foreign policy when she filled in for Olbermann?!?!?!1111

    The Rachel Maddow Show’
    Guests: Ron Mott, Jeffrey McMurray, Jeremy Scahill, Sandra Bernhard
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33058032/

    The Rachel Maddow Show guest Sandra Bernhard
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/33028252#33028252

    The Rachel Maddow Show guest Sandra Bernhard
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/33090650#33090650

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly
  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    where did i EVER say it was ok?

    You said he threatened the POTUS – that is not true.
    I am correcting your falsehood.

    I never said anything. But you implied that is was OK since he wasn’t President at the time.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    There’s lots more from Today Show, and HLN, but the comments ended up in spam folder….

    So, nice try fake conservative loon, Karl.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    TheEagle said:
    I never said anything. But you implied that is was OK since he wasn’t President at the time.

    total BS. where did i imply it was *ok*.

    whoever i was correcting said that he threatened the president. that was NOT true. I corrected a falsehood. Now you are spreading another one, that I *implied* it was ok. you guys just love making shit up.

  • TheEagle

    Latin2 said:
    That was ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT BUSH. Note the comments of Liberals BACK IN 2006 when Bush was president.

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2006/08/31/controversy_wat/

    Never heard of the film before but I have no problem denouncing it. However, the link you provided doesn’t provide comments from any known liberal. The comments on that page are mixed for and against the film and none of the commentors are identified by political ideology.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    When Common sang about “Burning Bush” – Bush was the President.

    AND when Common said that blacks who date whites have self hate…he said that in 2006.

    Which is not that long ago…I believe 2006 was the same year Liberals were loving the movie about the assassination of Pres. Bush.

    which liberals were loving this movie? Which liberals even talked about or endorsed the person who produced it?

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:
    where did i EVER say it was ok?

    You said he threatened the POTUS – that is not true.
    I am correcting your falsehood.

    yes you’re right it isn’t ok. But just yesterday ted nugent was invited on the huckabee program on fox, where was the conservative outrage? he’s never apologized for his statements.

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:
    where did i say that?

    you just love making shit up, don’t you?

    you said “oh of course, but somebody like ted nugent threatening the president is a ok. keep on in that world of imagination you live in.”

    he was not president. you were factually incorrect. repeatedly. perhaps it is you who is living in a world of imagination.

    you seem unable to keep your facts straight, and you insist on making things up….

    I’m not making things up, I’m asking questions. clearly it’s not ok for someone to threaten another human being especially a politician with death. You were correcting semantics, not addressing the argument.

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    total BS. where did i imply it was *ok*.

    whoever i was correcting said that he threatened the president. that was NOT true. I corrected a falsehood. Now you are spreading another one, that I *implied* it was ok. you guys just love making shit up.

    OK But you’ve yet to denounce Nugent for the remarks either.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    When Common sang about “Burning Bush” – Bush was the President.

    so now we’re in the realm of metaphors? what does “don’t retreat, reload” mean?

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:
    did you get outraged when Sandra Bernard said, “Sarah Palin will be “gang-raped by my big black brothers” if she enters Manhattan. Or called Palin a “Whore in Your F*****g Cheap-Ass Plastic Glasses”
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f7a_1221841717

    Or when Randi Rhodes repeatedly called Hillary a “big f***ing whore”

    Did you get all outragey when Madonna said she would kick Sarah Palins ass if she didn’t, “get off my street”?

    Did you get outraged when SNL did a skit implying Todd Palin has sex with his daughters?

    yeah, I don’t get outraged, and neither should you at common coming to the whitehouse.

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    Did you get outraged when SNL did a skit implying Todd Palin has sex with his daughters?

    Palin didn’t mind it since she appeared on SNL a few weeks later.

  • grafxmail7

    sarainitaly said:
    did you get outraged about BLAH BLAH BLAH

    No. I didn’t get outraged by any of this. I don’t care about it and I agree with Jon Stewart that this is just another ‘made up’ issue to distract from important issues and quite frankly (IMO) it’s just another example of the continuation of the Republican Southern strategy.

    I was simply pointing out your ever present hypocrisy that you constantly exhibit.

  • xraex413

    Jon Stewart is the one of the best guests O’Reilly has on his show. Everytime Jon Stewart is on, he makes so much sense. Jon Stewart calls out every news outlet there is. Jon Stewart is one of the best.

  • rm

    All of criticism of Fox News during his debate will Bill O’Reilly was edited out of the video played on Fox and Friends today.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-edits-jon-stewart

  • joe7

    Doesn’t this make other networks like msnbc selective outrage machines for getting worked up over people like Nugent and others, while not outraged over Common?

  • joe7

    ^That makes Stewart a selective complaining critic machine

  • hgarner2000

    But what about Mike Huckabee and Ted Nugent? Of course, a Christian can still enjoy secular music, but is it appropriate for an ordained minister to jam along to “Cat Scratch Fever?” I mean, what is this? Did the NRA or someone blackmail Mike Huckabee or something? Or does Mike Huckabee think that just because he’s on the Fox Blackmail …uh…I mean the Fox News Channel, he can have his mamon and eat it too?

  • purveyor

    Mr. stewart, as usual, held his own in the debate. In fact, it was obvious that he took the debate ‘very’ seriously. (I base this conclusion on Stewart’s body language) Anyway, is there an objective right or wrong in this situation? The question, distilled, is: Should the President have extended an invitation to “Common”, a Rap Star/Poet to perform at the White House?

    It seemed that Stewart’s salient argument , was a form of syllogism: If anti-establishment Musicians and Poets have performed at the White House prior, and, “Common”: is an anti-establishment Musician/Poet, then “Common” should be invited to the White House to perform? Hmm. I suppose one could argue about the phrase anti-establishment…”, perhaps we could use ‘racist, Cop hating rapper’? Could we, possibly, use the phrase—’talented, sensitive and willing to question the edifice built by the White-Man’? You make the call?

    The point is, Stewart’s tired syllogism stands and he used Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, etc., (I did not hear Gil Scott-Heron’s name mentioned, but, that would have added a nice bit of esoterica.) as examples and/or analogies. My question to Mr. Stewart: Do the Musician/Poets you mentioned in your argument, devote their professional lives to denigrating their homeland? Moreover, does “Common” do such, as well as identify himself with his audience as being “anti-establishment”? Also, does “Common” use the stage as a ‘pulpit’ to promote a racial viewpoint?

    In conclusion: Couldn’t the President and his wife have found another “Poet” or Orator to read Poetry? Speech and controversy go hand in hand. But, intemperate nonsensense, within the White House, not so much.

    PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

  • Cancon2

    Hey Jon, that selectivestuff is really across the board isn’t it pal?

  • Gorgegirl

    rm said:
    All of criticism of Fox News during his debate will Bill O’Reilly was edited out of the video played on Fox and Friends today.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-edits-jon-stewart

    And I would bet none oo the FOX and Friends viewers actually recall such honors provided to Johnny Cash by the Bush Administration – Cash, the guy who sang about “shooting a man in Reno just to watch him die”.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Nationman said:
    yeah, I don’t get outraged, and neither should you at common coming to the whitehouse.

    where was i outraged?

    when was ted nugent invited to the white house?

    Nugent appeared on hannity and huckabee? so what, sandra bernhard hangs out with HLN and MSNBC/NBC.

    Why do ya’ll keep tossing Nugent out there, but not Bernhard or Madonna or Randi Rhodes? You

    TheEagle said:
    OK But you’ve yet to denounce Nugent for the remarks either.

    It was three frickin years ago, and he attacked the candidate I was supporting at the time. Denounce him? LMAO. Why don’t you scroll back a bit, and read what I said about him….

    Where is your *denouncement* of Bernhard or Madonna or Randi Rhodes, or SNL, or Chris Matthews, or Keith Olbermann, Kathy Griffin, or any other left winger who has disgustingly attacked (and accused her of murder) Sarah Palin, or Bristol? Where’s your denouncement of Mike Malloy for suggesting SEAL team assassinate Pres. Bush. Or when Mike Malloy called Sarah Palin a whore. Or his hatefilled rant to Liz Cheney about planning her fathers funeral? “‘Dick Cheney is a murderer, he’s a killer, he’s a torturer, he’s evil personified. He’s a walking mass of horror.’

    Or any of this crap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ek6wPX0XbY&feature=player_embedded
    Or anytime Joy Behar opens her mouth? I could go on, but I think I made my point.

    Please, spare me your concern about Ted Nugent.

    Gorgegirl said:
    And I would bet none oo the FOX and Friends viewers actually recall such honors provided to Johnny Cash by the Bush Administration – Cash, the guy who sang about “shooting a man in Reno just to watch him die”.

    OMG – you have got to be kidding. have you ever watched TV or seen a movie? Or read a book? How many actors and authors have stepped foot into the white house? You do know the difference between reality and make believe, don’t you?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    rm said:
    All of criticism of Fox News during his debate will Bill O’Reilly was edited out of the video played on Fox and Friends today.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-edits-jon-stewart

    wow, dick tracy! how did you ever find the *whole unedited tape*??

    Oh, yea….from FOX.

    And Fox and Friends played a CLIP from the O’Reilly show. NOt the entire interview, a C L I P.
    They do that all the time, even on *gasp* MSNBC/Today show.

  • BarneyFranken

    purveyor said:
    My question to Mr. Stewart: Do the Musician/Poets you mentioned in your argument, devote their professional lives to denigrating their homeland? Moreover, does “Common” do such, as well as identify himself with his audience as being “anti-establishment”? Also, does “Common” use the stage as a ‘pulpit’ to promote a racial viewpoint? In conclusion: Couldn’t the President and his wife have found another “Poet” or Orator to read Poetry? Speech and controversy go hand in hand. But, intemperate nonsensense, within the White House, not so much. PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

    Excellent post, purveyor. What Stewart doesn’t get (or doesn’t want to get) is that to compare Bono to Common would be the same as saying that Bono career is DEFINED by the politics of this song, which of course he is not. Im a big U2 fan and I never even knew about this- in fact I still dont know which U2 song this is referring to.

    Common, on the other hand, isnt nearly as famous as the examples Stewart picked, and Common IS defined by his politics. He’s known as a “socially conscious” rapper, AKA political.

    I also found Stewart’s quote of (timestamp of 7:15 in the clip) “He believes they were unjustly convicted. That’s what I imagine this is” to be pretty weak. In the same breath saying he doesn’t know Common, he then tries to make a definitive defense for his point of view? How does that work?

    The truth is, Stewart, by his own admission, doesnt know that to be Common’s POV for sure, he simply assumes it. So for all his bluster, he’s only making an argument for argument sake, selectively being outraged over Fox’s “selective outrage.”

    That’s not to say he isn’t right about the selective outrage premise- After all, as a purveyor of a healthy dose of selective outrage himself, he can easily spot it. But Stewart is making the claim that Fox’s outrage is all based in politics not substance, while at the same time defending Common, not based on substantiated evidence, but because: (you guessed it) He agrees with his politics!

    AH, I love it. God Bless America!

  • http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

    THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND WE SHOULD KEEP DISCUSSING IT BECAUSE IT MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!11111

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    It was three frickin years ago, and he attacked the candidate I was supporting at the time. Denounce him? LMAO. Why don’t you scroll back a bit, and read what I said about him….

    Where is your *denouncement* of Bernhard or Madonna or Randi Rhodes, or SNL, or Chris Matthews, or Keith Olbermann, Kathy Griffin, or any other left winger who has disgustingly attacked (and accused her of murder) Sarah Palin, or Bristol? Where’s your denouncement of Mike Malloy for suggesting SEAL team assassinate Pres. Bush. Or when Mike Malloy called Sarah Palin a whore. Or his hatefilled rant to Liz Cheney about planning her fathers funeral? “‘Dick Cheney is a murderer, he’s a killer, he’s a torturer, he’s evil personified. He’s a walking mass of horror.’

    Why don’t you just denounce him now? I don’t know who Mike Malloy is but I’ll denounce him for making those comments. I don’t see why you can’t demounce Nugent’s comments.

  • purveyor

    Thank you for the compliment, BARNEY FRANKEN,

    It seems the two of us appreciate the mechanics of the debate or argument, as well as substance.

    An observation: Too bad “BARNEY FRANKEN” couldn’t somehow include, Alfred E. Neumann–”what, me worry”?
    LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marty-Perlman/1063824565 Marty Perlman

    It’s mostly a matter of gravitas, or in the case of the potential Republican candidates, a lack of. . .

    In Obama’s case, his gravitas index is up lately. But past gravitas performance levels are not necessarily an indicator of future gravitas.

    To help us survive the pre-election season, I’ve developed a gravitas quiz, a way of seeing if anyone (you or your neighbors) have gravitas.

    Sample question (choose the answer that best fits your personality and behavior mode):

    When I’m surrounded by secret service agents, I feel
    a. Empowered
    b. A little nervous but excited
    c. Guilty

    The Got Gravtias quiz continues at the whimsical Thinking Out Loud, http://marperl.blogspot.com/2011/04/do-you-have-gravitas.html

  • BarneyFranken

    purveyor said:
    Thank you for the compliment, BARNEY FRANKEN, It seems the two of us appreciate the mechanics of the debate or argument, as well as substance. An observation: Too bad “BARNEY FRANKEN” couldn’t somehow include, Alfred E. Neumann–”what, me worry”?LOL

    I’ll work on that, lol.

    Thankfully there are some of us out there that enjoy sharing our differing thoughts, without resorting to the ad-hominem attacks that double as posts here.

    You are a racist if you disagree with me on that.

  • Tedderman

    “Tide comes in, tide goes out, nobody knows why”

    Bill O’ the Clown

  • Alz

    Dronetek said:
    Stewart (and the MSM) used to rail on the president about Gitmo, wiretaps, unnecessary wars and high gas prices. None of that happens anymore. Looks like selective outrage to me.

    Yes, but think about the Plame issue. The liberals went BERSERK over Plame and insisting that she was outed. The liberals were soooooo concerned about national security.

    See this: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/05/ten-million-times-worse-than-valerie.html

    WHAT HAPPENED? Oh yes, they’re liberals – which means they have no issue with lying and misleading people.

  • Gasket

    Alz said:
    Yes, but think about the Plame issue. The liberals went BERSERK over Plame and insisting that she was outed. The liberals were soooooo concerned about national security.

    See this: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/05/ten-million-times-worse-than-valerie.html

    WHAT HAPPENED? Oh yes, they’re liberals – which means they have no issue with lying and misleading people.

    Pathetic. Nice try.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    TheEagle said:
    Why don’t you just denounce him now? I don’t know who Mike Malloy is but I’ll denounce him for making those comments. I don’t see why you can’t demounce Nugent’s comments.

    who am i to denounce ted nugent? i don’t like what he said, he said some crappy things about hillary, someone i was supporting, and Obama. i was offended four years ago, when he said it. he is not someone i support, or like, or give a rats ass about, so what the hell would i be *denouncing* him for? i don’t work for him, go to his concerts or support him. Mike Mallow is a left wing talk radio guy, and he says vile things WEEKLY. ted said something offensive FOUR years ago….

    Left wingers CONTINUE to say vile things about the Palins, tea partiers and Conservatives daily. I am more concerned about the continuing hatred spewing forth from the Left than some dumb ass comment by some rock singer made four years ago at a concert. (I don’t see you denouncing Madonna or Bernhard or any other person I mentioned, either bub! And I don’t expect you to…)

  • Alz

    Gasket said:
    Pathetic. Nice try.

    What you’re saying is “Nice Try, I don’t use moral or ethics so you can’t call me on Plame.”

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    who am i to denounce ted nugent? i don’t like what he said, he said some crappy things about hillary, someone i was supporting, and Obama. i was offended four years ago, when he said it. he is not someone i support, or like, or give a rats ass about, so what the hell would i be *denouncing* him for? i don’t work for him, go to his concerts or support him. Mike Mallow is a left wing talk radio guy, and he says vile things WEEKLY. ted said something offensive FOUR years ago….

    Left wingers CONTINUE to say vile things about the Palins, tea partiers and Conservatives daily. I am more concerned about the continuing hatred spewing forth from the Left than some dumb ass comment by some rock singer made four years ago at a concert. (I don’t see you denouncing Madonna or Bernhard or any other person I mentioned, either bub! And I don’t expect you to…)

    You’re willing to denounce the President on almost a daily basis yet you don’t think you have the standing to denounce Ted Nugent? I had no problem denouncing Mike Mallow for his comments or anyone else for their hateful comments whether they made them yesterday or 10 years ago. Why do you still refuse to denounce Nugent?

  • WHarropson

    I like Rush’s take on it, the question isn’t why would Obama invite Common, the question is why wouldn’t he? It’s like objecting to him going to a rev Wright type of church on Easter. If he did otherwise he’d be hiding who he is.

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:
    where was i outraged? =P>

    then what the hell are you debating about? that’s been the topic of discussion throughout this entire thread!

  • Nationman

    sarainitaly said:
    where was i outraged? when was ted nugent invited to the white house? Nugent appeared on hannity and huckabee? so what, sandra bernhard hangs out with HLN and MSNBC/NBC. Why do ya’ll keep tossing Nugent out there, but not Bernhard or Madonna or Randi Rhodes? P>

    why do conservatives keep talking about common without denouncing ted nugent?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    TheEagle said:
    You’re willing to denounce the President on almost a daily basis yet you don’t think you have the standing to denounce Ted Nugent? I had no problem denouncing Mike Mallow for his comments or anyone else for their hateful comments whether they made them yesterday or 10 years ago. Why do you still refuse to denounce Nugent?

    sarainitaly said:
    i don’t like what he said, he said some crappy things about hillary, someone i was supporting, and Obama. i was offended four years ago, when he said it.

    sarainitaly said:
    please show me where i am defending Nugent.

    Where is my selective outrage? this happened FOUR years ago.
    and you are correct, he attacked someone i voted for and supported. do you think i liked it? nope.
    did i get my panties in a twist over some stupid shit Ted Nugent said at a rock concert? nope.
    but i didn’t like, or appreciate it.

    again, please show me where i am defending him.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-to-bill-oreilly-there-is-a-selective-outrage-machine-here-at-fox/comment-page-10/#comment-466639

    I’m still waiting for your denouncements of Matthews, Olbermann, Bernhard, Berhar, Maher, Madonna, SNL, and everyone else who has said vile nasty things against Sarah Palin…. And I guess I can expect to see them each and every time they happen, moving forward?

    Nationman said:
    then what the hell are you debating about? that’s been the topic of discussion throughout this entire thread!

    you don’t think it’s possible to debate a topic without being outraged? This was my initial comment on Common:

    sarainitaly said:
    While I do agree Hannity is displaying a good amount of hypocrisy here, I do want to point out two things.

    1. Ted Nugent is not being honored with an invite to the white house, is he?

    2. I was under the impression the big uproar over Common was his Song for Assata, the aunt of Tupak Shakur, who was convicted as an accomplice in the murder of two policemen, escaped and fled to Cuba.

    In fact, the NJ police unions are outraged about the invite, as well.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NJ-State-Police-Outraged-Over-Rapper-Invited-to-White-House-121596869.html

    I am not a fan of poetry, and don’t really care about this event. I just find it hard to believe that with all the poets, in all the land, there isn’t one more deserving of the honor of a WH invite….One that doesn’t write about cop killers and hasn’t apparently written about burning the former occupant of the very White House where he is invited.

    Nationman said:
    why do conservatives keep talking about common without denouncing ted nugent?

    Because Common was honored with an invite to the White House. Ted Nugent wasn’t.

    And Ted Nugent made the comment FOUR years ago, and is old new. And it has NO relevance to the discussion on whether Common should have been honored with an invitation to the White House.

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    I’m still waiting for your denouncements of Matthews, Olbermann, Bernhard, Berhar, Maher, Madonna, SNL, and everyone else who has said vile nasty things against Sarah Palin…. And I guess I can expect to see them each and every time they happen, moving forward?

    I’ll denounce anyone who uses hateful and violent rhetoric. Why won’t you?

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    And Ted Nugent made the comment FOUR years ago, and is old new. And it has NO relevance to the discussion on whether Common should have been honored with an invitation to the White House.

    It was Sean Hannity who made it relevant by stating ““If this was somebody who used the same type of rhetoric about violence against President Obama I would be against it.” while failing to condemn Nugent. When it happened doesn’t matter. Most of the examples you’ve cited happened years agor too but I don’t have a problem denouncing Madonna or Mike Mallow for their comments. Why do you still refuse to denounce Nugent for what he said?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    dude, i think if you will look at what i said about him, i did.

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    dude, i think if you will look at what i said about him, i did.

    Where?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly
  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    uhhhh, here:
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-to-bill-oreilly-there-is-a-selective-outrage-machine-here-at-fox/comment-page-12/#comment-468053

    I don’t see any comment denouncing Nugent, just a lot of excuses for not doing so. How hard is it to say “I condemn Ted Nugent for his hateful remarks”?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barbara-Hodges/100000863918892 Barbara

    Viewers for the debate weren’t only the usual foxwatchers. Many of us who NEVER watch fox, did and did vote.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    TheEagle said:
    I don’t see any comment denouncing Nugent, just a lot of excuses for not doing so. How hard is it to say “I condemn Ted Nugent for his hateful remarks”?

    TheEagle said:
    You’re willing to denounce the President on almost a daily basis yet

    Where have I EVER said “I condemn Obama…” or “I denounce Obama…”?

    Why don’t I do as you did, and write, “I denounce Ted Nugent…..”? Well, basically because you sound like a tool for doing so, and secondly, you claim I *denounce* Obama daily, yet I am quite positive I have never made some stupid *formal declaration* denouncing him.

    I am quite comfortable with my reaction then, and now to Nugents comments.

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    Where have I EVER said “I condemn Obama…” or “I denounce Obama…”?

    Why don’t I do as you did, and write, “I denounce Ted Nugent…..”? Well, basically because you sound like a tool for doing so, and secondly, you claim I *denounce* Obama daily, yet I am quite positive I have never made some stupid *formal declaration* denouncing him.

    I am quite comfortable with my reaction then, and now to Nugents comments.

    Now you’re just playing semantical games. You post comments here everyday that condemn and denounce President Obama even if you don’t use the exact words.

    As to Ted Nugent, you’re still making excuses for not denouncing his hateful comments.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    TheEagle said:
    Now you’re just playing semantical games. You post comments here everyday that condemn and denounce President Obama even if you don’t use the exact words.

    As to Ted Nugent, you’re still making excuses for not denouncing his hateful comments.

    you claim i denounce obama *every day* (which is not true) even if i don’t use those exact words, yet you deny that i *denounce* nugent because i didn’t use those exact words.

    can’t have it both ways Eagle.

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    you claim i denounce obama *every day* (which is not true) even if i don’t use those exact words, yet you deny that i *denounce* nugent because i didn’t use those exact words.

    can’t have it both ways Eagle.

    Again you are just playing games and being intellectually dishonest. You do condemn and denounce the President almost every day here, even if you don’t use the exact words. And you keep ducking any criticism of Nugent for his violent comments.

    Looking back at your comments, I found something very telling:

    sarainitaly said:
    I am more concerned about the continuing hatred spewing forth from the Left than some dumb ass comment by some rock singer made four years ago at a concert.

    This is the same hypocrisy that Stewart was pointing out about FOX. Like them, you only care about the venom coming from the other side, but you’re OK with it coming from your side.

    I’ll denounce Madonna or Mike Mallow or anyone from the left who makes violent and hateful comments. Why won’t you?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    what the hell about Nugent makes you think he is on *MY* side? He verbally insulted MY candidate FOUR years ago.

    Where did I duck any criticism of Nugent? This was FOUR years ago, and I told you on here that FOUR years ago, I didn’t like it, and found it inappropriate. Where did I ever support his statements?

    I said I am not going to act like a tool and make some dumb ass formal denunciation of Nugent. I said I didn’t approve of the comments.

    And yes, I do care more about the continued hatred that continues to THIS DAY that comes from people here, people on MSNBC, people on the radio and people in the newspaper and blogging business that daily spew hatred – Nugents comments were FOUR years ago, I have moved on. I am bothered by the shit being said NOW. And if Nugent were to be invited to the White House, I would object to it. And I have called out people on this site for saying things I found inappropriate – on *both* sides.

    Nugent’s comments were not coming from *MY* side. He verbally insulted *MY* candidate.
    Do you GET that? Nugent is not *MY* side about anything.

    Do not tell me that I *denounce* Obama daily, and then try to tell me that I refuse to *denounce* Nugent. You sound loony.

  • TheEagle

    sarainitaly said:
    what the hell about Nugent makes you think he is on *MY* side? He verbally insulted MY candidate FOUR years ago.

    Where did I duck any criticism of Nugent? This was FOUR years ago, and I told you on here that FOUR years ago, I didn’t like it, and found it inappropriate. Where did I ever support his statements?

    I said I am not going to act like a tool and make some dumb ass formal denunciation of Nugent. I said I didn’t approve of the comments.

    Why is it acting like a tool to denounce him? You keep on avoiding that. Why is it so hard for you to do so?

    sarainitaly said:
    And yes, I do care more about the continued hatred that continues to THIS DAY that comes from people here, people on MSNBC, people on the radio and people in the newspaper and blogging business that daily spew hatred – Nugents comments were FOUR years ago, I have moved on. I am bothered by the shit being said NOW. And if Nugent were to be invited to the White House, I would object to it. And I have called out people on this site for saying things I found inappropriate – on *both* sides.

    Yes you’re only concerned about stuff being said now by the other side. You clearly don’t care about comments made by those on the right. That’s just hypocrisy.

    sarainitaly said:
    Nugent’s comments were not coming from *MY* side. He verbally insulted *MY* candidate.
    Do you GET that? Nugent is not *MY* side about anything.

    Do not tell me that I *denounce* Obama daily, and then try to tell me that I refuse to *denounce* Nugent. You sound loony.

    Who cares when the comments were made. That’s like saying the you won’t denounce Hitler or Stalin because they commited their crimes 70 years ago.

    I may be looney but at least I’m not denying reality. You do denounce and attack the President constantly. You can’t even refer to him as the President in your comments.

    And you are still refusing to denounce Nugent for his hateful comments. If he really insulted your candidate, why it is so hard for you to simply state, “I denounce Ted Nugent”?

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