Now that’s a load of crap ! And what he’s saying is stupid , too . Desperation Samba !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHfzYT-qbZ0

Boy, Soros works quick. Donate a million and a few days later, it’s all out war against Beck

No he is safe.
His face looks like it has been stomped on often.
To go through life looking like that is punishment enough.

Conservatives have no desire to hurt Michael Moore. He helps conservative causes. The more he is on TV, the more he hurts liberal causes. Michael Moore gets in front of the camera, and blurts out something strange — praising the superiority of the Cuban health care system, for example — and it just makes normal people queasy at the idea of voting the same way as him.

Just keep yappin Mike, you propaganda merchant, media whore. Keep on yappin… That CO2 HOAX would be resolved if these two hotair machines would just dust each other.

Nobody needs to do any violence against Moore. Keep eating and then go to Cuba for healthcare and that should do the trick.

Michael Moore is a great American and tremendously courageous to continue to speak out in spite of the hit put on him by the right. GO MIKE!

Michael Moore…you are irrelevant.

/just like Mediaite commentators but I digress.

Every time I turn on MSNBC all I see is anti republican (tea party) or FOXNEWS.

I have my frustrations with FOXNEWS as I do with CNN, but I shared my concerns with the networks via snail mail. I have done the same with MSNBC. There was a time that I really enjoyed MSNBC, but now it just goes after those that don’t agree with them, that excites the base and for the most part with out substance.

Worse, they use all types of negative words to discribe the GOP, I see and wonder how the hell has it gotten so disrespectful of others. Again, GOP is guilty of the same.

Maddow has every right to conduct her show as she see fit, but I was brought up to look at all points of view, to respect those who differ but have an honest debate. I only have to look at recent articles posted on this site.

Every time I turn on MSNBC, I get anti GOP, anti Tea Party with the rare moment that they discuss their own party. That they don’t use their air time to promote those in their party to either retain or win in the midterms. They have gone after the GOP during Obama’s first 2 years, they will continue thru 2012.

Mr. Moore is a true progressive, he stands by those beliefs, one should admire his conviction, but, why can’t he just discuss his party, to assist in their success. That is the same way I feel about the evening anchors of MSNBC, they are so busy pointing out the flaws of the right, that I haven’t a clue of the folks that they would support next Tuesday.

I have said I come from a military family, we will defend the right to express everyone’s thoughts.

Wouldn’t it be great to get nearly 100% voter turn out. I want you to vote whether you agree with me or not. That it is an awesome right given to us, just think of those in Iraq that will vote on threat of death because it is the right thing to do.

Agree/disagree with me. I am really getting tired of both sides being obnoxious, next Tuesday wont change anything. Where is the American character I was raised to believe in.

Please say a prayer of thanks, or moment of thanks to those serving in harms, it is their actions that reminds us we have the ability to have this discussion. Ft Leavenworth, KS

I love the way he dismisses whole portions of the country with a couple of words: “Where I was, it was grab the hippie. If you were in the South, it was grab the black guy . . .” These two are a disgrace to Liberalism. In my day, they would never have emerged as spokespersons for the Movement. What armchair bullshit artists. How enlightened they are. I’ll bet they have never done a hard day’s work in their pathetic lives. Yeah, I know Rachel used to mow yards, but try reading about George Orwell. These two are just political hacks, trivia questions for our grand kids.

Michelle, I agree with a lot of what you say, as always. Corporate media monopolies have destroyed any notion of actual news. I think this country needs to enforce the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, a law still on the books, to ever see the return of actual news. I am extremely uncomfortable with the monopolization of every industry, particularly the media. Democracy requires an informed voting populace, and it’s impossible to be informed with the media landscape as it is today without intensive daily research that most people don’t have time for.

yeah, everyone block the line in the buffet lol

The source for the Beck quote is Media Matters, via About.com. The quote is beyond out of context, par for the course with the originating website.

The full context was a rant in which Beck attempted to live down to the traits attributed to him. At least explain the context of something coming from Media Matters. It does matter when Beck or Limbaugh or any other host, left or right, is being satirical — even if the satire is a horrendous failure.

And yes, the satire was not funny at the time or now.

Rachel Maddow and Michael Moore……LOL

More recently, O’Reilly did a piece about poachers harpooning whales in the North Atlantic. So yeah, maybe Moore does have something to worry about.

Go away you big fat crybaby! Good grief, Michael man the F’ up! Then again maybe you are incapable of manning up! Ok, then woman up!

Wow!

First off, Beck’s five year old comment wasn’t a call for OTHERS to hurt/kill Moore, it was him fantasizing about doing it himself. There is a difference.

Second off, these comments were made five years ago… Seriously, five years ago – unless Mr. Moore has more recent examples, it is a bit unfair to say Beck is currently calling for violence against him.

Finally, is it possible to find any example of Michael Moore calling for violence against any of his critics? I haven’t the heart to google it, but it must be out there…

Sorry, Mike. It’s 2010 and nobody, aside from Rachel Maddow, even knows that you’re still alive. O’Reilly and Beck have bigger — well, maybe not bigger in a literal sense, but more relevant — people to worry about.

Who is Maddow going to dig up next? William Hung? The Backstreet Boys? The Where’s the Beef woman?

whytee said:
Michelle, I agree with a lot of what you say, as always. Corporate media monopolies have destroyed any notion of actual news. I think this country needs to enforce the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, a law still on the books, to ever see the return of actual news. I am extremely uncomfortable with the monopolization of every industry, particularly the media. Democracy requires an informed voting populace, and it’s impossible to be informed with the media landscape as it is today without intensive daily research that most people don’t have time for.

Whytee, thank you for taking the time to continue the discussion I started. Much of the media is being acquired by the likes Comcast and Newscorp, it should give us all pause.

I do miss the news. Sometimes, during the day I peak into all 3 cable news channels, but, they do inject their opinion, it is frustrating. Let’s have news, if you want opinion shows, so be it, American’s can figure out the difference.

I don’t mind opinionated shows, but give me the other side, I just want honest brokers.

While I wasn’t old enough to watch Walter Cronkites news shows, I have been told he really did give the news without bias, it wasn’t until later in his career, regarding Vietnam war that gave a glimpse into his politics as he anchored the news.

As for an informed voting populous you are preaching to the quite, the history of country, the right’s that we have, we rock. Pick up a book, order one on line, go to the library, become an informed voter.

Maybe one day voter’s will get that one of the most sacred rights we have “the right to vote!”

Again thank you for your insightful reply.

Thoughts from a proud AF veteran, damn proud being married to an awesome US Army FA officer. Ft Leavenworth KS

Did not know Moore was such a delicate little flower ! And he’s not even jolly . … I know . Kind of mean .

Grow up Colby. Do you think if you repeat a lie enough it becomes accepted fact? That little MoveOn skank was a plant looking for trouble, and no one “stomped” on her head. If you can look at that video and seriously conclude her head was stomped on after she tried to shove something into the window of the car Paul was driving in then you have to be as limp-wristed as an old lady at the Villages. Is this how you get females? If it is, I wouldn’t want the skanks you attract.

Ken Hansen said:
Wow! First off, Beck’s five year old comment wasn’t a call for OTHERS to hurt/kill Moore, it was him fantasizing about doing it himself. There is a difference. Second off, these comments were made five years ago… Seriously, five years ago – unless Mr. Moore has more recent examples, it is a bit unfair to say Beck is currently calling for violence against him. Finally, is it possible to find any example of Michael Moore calling for violence against any of his critics? I haven’t the heart to google it, but it must be out there…

Your comments rock, thank you for adding them to the discussion.

Christopher Scott Wyatt said:
The source for the Beck quote is Media Matters, via About.com. The quote is beyond out of context, par for the course with the originating website. The full context was a rant in which Beck attempted to live down to the traits attributed to him. At least explain the context of something coming from Media Matters. It does matter when Beck or Limbaugh or any other host, left or right, is being satirical — even if the satire is a horrendous failure. And yes, the satire was not funny at the time or now.

You have provided a concise response to the article, thank you.

Truth matters, Ft Leavenworth KS.

10/22/04
Late night with
Conan O’Brien
Guests.
South Park’s
Trey Parker and Matt Stone, talk about Michael Moore.

Trey Parker”people were like,well Michael Moore kind of lies and manipulates to make people think certain things.We’re like personal victims of that,so we basically decided to make him into a puppet and blow him up”.(Referring to team America movie)

Matt Stone”He (Michael Moore)uses two images together and creates meaning where there isn’t none.”

I do not think Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly are as big a problem to Michael Moore as the river of crisco that flows through his veins.
The guy looks like Jabba the Hut.

The source for the Beck quote is Media Matters, via About.com. The quote is beyond out of context, par for the course with the originating website.

Of course, that’s all they do, because they can’t get anything of substance on him. That’s what drives them so bat crazy!

Michael considers it violence when Applebees raises their prices.

whytee said:
Michael Moore is a great American and tremendously courageous to continue to speak out in spite of the hit put on him by the right. GO MIKE!

Com’on. Aprils Fools do not take place for another five months. Save your joke for when the time comes. Right now, it’s pretty pathetic.

You know that game people play, “If you could go back in time would you kill Hitler”?
That is the game they will be playing about Glenn Beck in the next century.

He will be remembered as someone who should have been stomped out before he could get started.

What irony. Moore is watching out for Beck, while cholesterol slips up behind him.

I have been keeping track of O’Reilly’s delusional claim on Monday that the Factor is “50/50, Liberal and Conservative”.

On Tuesday he had 6 conservatives, 1 liberal (Juan lol) and Stossel.
On Wednesday he had on 6 conservatives and 2 liberals.

Of course it is his right to have who he wants on, and it is a better average than some other shows, but he is insane to think his show is fairly balanced. My question is, does he really believe what he says or is he spinning?
I would prefer he was spinning, I wouldn’t wish that amount of retardation on anyone.

So far today its 3 conservatives, 1 liberal. Not done watching yet. lol

Oh come on Moore, suck it up. Stop being such a wimp!

Seriously???

1. “(the Ron Paul protester who’s head was stopped upon.)” Try RAND Paul. Doesn’t anyone Proof Read anymore?!

2. Nobody honestly thinks O’Reilly & Beck wants violence to come to Moore. It’s just a stupid weapon of Rhetoric. Enough is enough and this site bathes in this crap.

realitycheck said:
Try RAND Paul. Doesn’t anyone Proof Read anymore?!

You have to understand that Colby was on Fox News recently so these kinds of mistakes are bound to rub off on him.

http://www.myspace.com/music/5245416/songs/21883186

http://www.myspace.com/glennbeckthememusic

Michael More needs only to worry about his heart, because thats the only thing that is going to be attacking him….

writer says:
What irony. Moore is watching out for Beck, while cholesterol slips up behind him.

HAHA, I don’t care who you are, that’s funny!

In Fl if some one attacks the vehicle your in like the women who was stomped, but that they didn’t show in the edited video, you can shoot the attacker! I am independent and dont think the republicans will change anything if they are voted in but can never trust the progressives. They are both part of a single party, big government against the will of the people. D-bags are for big Govt and republicans big Govt.

realitycheck said:
Seriously???

1. “(the Ron Paul protester who’s head was stopped upon.)” Try RAND Paul. Doesn’t anyone Proof Read anymore?! .

yea, and the guys who write here are showing up on TV now. tells you something about the direction of media in America nowadays. hell, I only normally hit the cap button here when I refer to myself or a specific person or org as a form of liberal elite protest cuz I’m a self important arrogant grad student. I also gutterly abbreviate as much as I can here. =)

The only one hurting Michael Moore is his own eating habits. His is one Big Mac away from doing himself in.

Is it possible for liberals to stop spreading the lie that this dolt protester was kicked in the head. Watch the friggin video clip. Or is that too much for liberals to do? To actually watch the video before they start the lies about what happened? If it is too much for your teeny tiny brains?
The guy put his foot on her shoulder to hold her down, then he lifted his foot up and kicked her in the SHOULDER with the bottom of his runner …. once. Then the other guys around him said to stop and he backed off.
So, how do you get a concussion (that’s the head right?) from a kick on the shoulder?
Is there a contaminated supply of drugs out there causing the liberals to have hallucinations?
This woman tried to jam her sign into Rand Paul’s head while he was sitting in vehicle… go watch the rest of the videos or is that not allowed because it might change the liberal, poor little girl narrative?

philipjames said:
So, how do you get a concussion (that’s the head right?) from a kick on the shoulder?

lol…sorta reminds me of when that Black conservative ended up in a wheelchair because he got tussled by those SEIU guys.

Also, if you watch the video closely he did have his foot on her shoulder but when he stomped it down his heel did push her head to da curb. Watch it closely and tell me his heel didn’t push her head to the ground and I will call you a liar right to your internet face.

There was no stomping, liar.

The boy is delusional.

All those drugs must be taking their toll…… Maybe he should start taking Hoodia…..

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
I have been keeping track of O’Reilly’s delusional claim on Monday that the Factor is “50/50, Liberal and Conservative”.

On Tuesday he had 6 conservatives, 1 liberal (Juan lol) and Stossel.
On Wednesday he had on 6 conservatives and 2 liberals.

Of course it is his right to have who he wants on, and it is a better average than some other shows, but he is insane to think his show is fairly balanced. My question is, does he really believe what he says or is he spinning?
I would prefer he was spinning, I wouldn’t wish that amount of retardation on anyone.

And of course, you have to take into consideration is hostile and demeaning treatment of liberals that come on his show.

Big_F-ing_Deal says:
October 28, 2010 at 11:36 pm Big_F-ing_Deal(Quote)
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You know that game people play, “If you could go back in time would you kill Hitler”?
That is the game they will be playing about Glenn Beck in the next century.

He will be remembered as someone who should have been stomped out before he could get started.

Well yeah, the 2% of the country that are progressives will be playing that game..

Beck is just hucksting for the dollar. In a decade the easily led and uneducated Republican bulk will have some new hero to tell them what to think.

Personally, he reminds me of the lady on Romper Room that would look through the mirror (or whatever) and speak to the children viewing the show. That was the first thing that sprang to mind when I first saw him on The O’Reilly Factor making uncomfortable googly eyes at the camera whenever it zoomed into his face while conversating with Bill. It was uncomfortable, witnessing someone without shame using such tactics on the unwashed masses of the right to collect a gullible following.

In a poetic kind of way, I think it all came to fruition when that guy stomped on a young lady during a Rand Paul rally.

Lefty’s haven’t figured out that this kind of crap hurts them.
The daily junk mail and robo calls I’m receiving make NO mention that they are “Democrat”……they want you to know their name but not their party. That has never happened before in my lifetime!!!

He’s one to talk…

These bastards who run our country are a bunch of conniving, thieving, smug pricks who need to be brought down and removed and replaced with a whole new system that we control.
Dude (2003)

I think the United States, I think our government knows where he is and I don’t think we’re going to be capturing him or killing him any time soon.
About Osama bin Laden in an interview with Bob Costas on On the Record with Bob Costas HBO (Spring 2003)

They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet… in thrall to conniving, thieving, smug pricks. We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. in The Daily Mirror (3 November 2003); also partly quoted in “The company they keep” by Michael Barone, in U.S.News & World Report (12 July 2004)

I would like to apologize for referring to George W. Bush as a “deserter.” What I meant to say is that George W. Bush is a deserter, an election thief, a drunk driver, a WMD liar, and a functional illiterate. And he poops his pants.
“You Say Deserter, I Say More Dessert… by Michael Moore” (27 January 2004)

The motivation for war is simple. The U.S. government started the war with Iraq in order to make it easy for U.S. corporations to do business in other countries. They intend to use cheap labor in those countries, which will make Americans rich.
As quoted in “Koch: Moore’s propaganda film cheapens debate, polarizes nation” by Ed Koch in World Tribune (29 June 2004)

The worst thing that we can do right now is to censor. The worst thing to do is alter the way we believe. We are here in a free society.
Michael Moore Quote…
apparently he only feels this way when people are trying to censor him?

Some times I read these columns, and my only reaction is to laugh.

Michael Moore is a bloated toad. His movies are low rate jabs at the ignorant leftist thinking. He can’t help it, he still lives in the basement at his folks house.

Hahaha! Don’t Flatter yourself with the Victim Card play Now, Fatboy. Because You’re either gonna Vapor Lock or some Proggie Sociopath is gonna think you’re not “Left Enough” anymore, and then He, or She, or HeShe is gonna try to whack you. So I’m Sorry, but NO Conservative is gonna do you That favor. Make a Martyr out of Loser like You.

Ps. Lean Forward Mikey http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38957020/

I Want My GoreTV and a “Green Job” Too, or I’m gonna start Killing “Folks”! See! Whad’ I Tell Ya’?

What side does Moore come down on the Kendrick Meek scandal ? The side with snacks , of course .

Dear Mr. Moore:

Is this the best you could come up with? All these years in the public eye spouting your contorted, twisted mumbo-jumbo and this is it? All this time with your timely, well-documented, truthful mock-umentaries railing against the evils of Capitalism even though you’ve been a huge (no pun intended) beneficiary thereof such that you’re a multi-millionaire & you cry victim over something clearly taken out of context and said longer than 5 years ago? You’re no longer relevant.
Frankly, you’re a boorish, self-absorbed slob.Be thankful, Mr. Moore, for this free country. Even you have the right to spout baseless blather.

So to summarize the comments to this story: Ha ha, Beck hasn’t said he wants to kill Moore in years, it’s a non story. Michael Moore is fat.

“Would you kill someone for that?…I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore…I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it,…No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus — band — Do, and I’ve lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, “Yeah, I’d kill Michael Moore,” and then I’d see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I’d realize, “Oh, you wouldn’t kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn’t choke him to death.” And you know, well, I’m not sure.”

* The Glenn Beck Program, Premiere Radio Networks, 2005-05-17

Speaking of Violence:

MoveOn ‘Republicorp’ Activist Chokes Conservative Protester at Arizona Rally

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/moveon-republicorp-activist-chokes-conservative-protester-at-arizona-rally/

VRWC Destruction Machine said:
Com’on. Aprils Fools do not take place for another five months. Save your joke for when the time comes. Right now, it’s pretty pathetic.

No joke. When it comes to backing stateless megacorporations that have conned people into supporting their power versus backing Michael Moore, a filmmaker who takes these megacorporations on, I back Michael Moore every time.

Other than people who get paid to promote corporate dominance, I can’t see how regular people go to such lengths to defend corporate lawbreaking and abuse of our system.

Seeing November From My Window said:
Speaking of Violence:

MoveOn ‘Republicorp’ Activist Chokes Conservative Protester at Arizona Rally

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/moveon-republicorp-activist-chokes-conservative-protester-at-arizona-rally/

Nice try, but a) he’s not choking him (look at his other hand), b) such a tiny sliver of the tape is excerpted that it’s impossible to tell what’s really going on and the guy’s explanation makes no sense, and c) that’s two men, not a burly security guard versus a tiny 23 year old girl. This feels like a James O’Keefe “creative editing” job to me but if they show the rest of the encounter, I’d be interested to see what’s really going on.

whytee said:
No joke. When it comes to backing stateless megacorporations that have conned people into supporting their power versus backing Michael Moore, a filmmaker who takes these megacorporations on, I back Michael Moore every time.

I like how he took Halliburton on by buying their stock. He really showed them.

tgk says:
“Boy, Soros works quick. Donate a million and a few days later, it’s all out war against Beck”

Typically ill-informed comment. Soros donated to Media Matters, not Moore. There has been a struggle going on against Beck’s deceit and vitriolic rhetoric since he has the sheer ignorant audacity (and hypocrisy) to call the President a racist.

Stop Beck points out that the struggle against Beck has nothing to do with his politics; it’s about the fact that he is a liar, first and foremost. What Beck says about Soros is far more times than not, a lie, a distortion, flat out wrong.

That doesn’t stop the minions who literally love Beck from believing it.

Beck is a tool of the fat cats, one effective tool of corporations. Beck’s minions are tools of Beck and indirectly tools of the large corporations who will use their purchased Congress to let them continue to outsource American jobs.

Pablo said:
I like how he took Halliburton on by buying their stock. He really showed them.

You realize the point of monopolies is to crush you like a bug, right? You are acting as an evangelist for indifferent stateless entities that don’t give two $#!#s about you or your family or your country.

And Michael Moore denies that he owns Halliburton stock. I’ve never seen it substantiated but lying has never stopped people from trying to marginalize Michael Moore because he reaches a lot of people with an anti-corporate rule message.

These stateless corporations are seizing the moment, and people like you are tranced by the pretty propaganda they can create to make you think that you and they are on the same side. There’s something incredibly sad and tragic about people being tricked by their own love of country to support powerful forces that don’t love the country and see an ideal in Somalia, where there is no government to protect the people from them.

We have a choice in 2010 and beyond because powerful corporations aren’t waiting to see how it goes; they’re seizing the moment. And your life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is utterly inconsequential when it comes to

GlennBeckReview said:
Typically ill-informed comment. Soros donated to Media Matters, not Moore.

You’re typically ill informed, GBR. And George Soros’ minion, Media Matters CEO David Brock is a whiny titty baby as well as being clinically insane.

Beck is a tool of the fat cats, one effective tool of corporations.

Really? What corporations? Goldline and EasyWater? Booga booga.

whytee said:
You realize the point of monopolies is to crush you like a bug, right?

Are you crushed like a bug? I’m not.

their goals.

Pablo said:
Are you crushed like a bug? I’m not.

Enjoy the moment, because we don’t get corporations out of politics, the next generation won’t be so lucky.

Which corporations? All of them? Will the next generation own them like we do now?

whytee said:
Michelle, I agree with a lot of what you say, as always. Corporate media monopolies have destroyed any notion of actual news.

It wasn’t that long ago that most cities had two newspapers, one liberal, one conservative. You can still see this in the names of several of the surviving papers. When the television news media came along, the evening news was nationalized, came from New York, and always had a liberal slant because of this. With cable news, we’ve simply come full circle. To think that the news media has ever been anything but bias in really naive, and the “good old days” of straight up, no-nonsense news that people long for from Walter Cronkite and David Brinkley, well, that was just an illusion created by the lack of objectivity due to the liberal slant of all the networks. When Fox came to be, people freaked out because, my God, they’re actually presenting a conservative slant to the news, how dare they disrupt our ignorant little lives!

whytee said:
Democracy requires an informed voting populace

True, and just as true in a Republic, such as ours. Democracies are temporary situations that exist between Republics and Oligarchies, and are never stable. As the old saying goes, a democracy is three wolves and a lamb voting on what’s for dinner.

Some_Dude says

Beck is just hucksting for the dollar. In a decade the easily led and uneducated Republican bulk will have some new hero to tell them what to think.

This is so correct! This is so head on, this should be a study. When you ask these sheep why or what they want to change, it is mostly not this party that has done what they claim or their information is false from the start.They don’t know the difference! They are given taking points, half true and they don’t understand just what they are mad about,they are just made and scared, because Beck told them to be! They want jobs! Go check the votes of their party and see who allowed the jobs to go out of this country! The only talking points the tea party should have is “please spread our fear and lies”

GlennBeckReview said:
“Typically ill-informed comment. Soros donated to Media Matters, not Moore.”

Pablo says:
“You’re typically ill informed, GBR. And George Soros’ minion, Media Matters CEO David Brock is a whiny titty baby as well as being clinically insane.”

So you claim that I’m “ill-informed” and then spout childish nonsense about David Brock. Really. Isn’t this typical for the kinds of beliefs we have come to expect from those living in Beck’s alternative universe.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/paul-waldman-what-beck-says-is.html

GlennBeckReview said:
“Beck is a tool of the fat cats, one effective tool of corporations.”

Pablo says:
“Really? What corporations? ”

Well now, if the R’s hadn’t defeated the Disclosure Act, I could tell you exactly who’s contributing to the US Chamber of Commerce (We know that there are foreign companies who contribute to them.) and America Crossroads, Rove’s money machine putting out typically Rovian (deceitful) ads. So, one company that we can be sure of is Koch Industries. Moore, not Beck is the populist:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/becks-fake-populism-exposed-he-sides.html

MOORE IS A LIAR!!!! Beck denounces violence and calls for nonviolence. Anyone who listens to Beck knows this. I wonder how much Soros is paying Moore to state this. Soros paid Media Matters to call Beck a terrorists. ENOUGH WITH THE LIES!

Here we have two of the kookiest people around trying to tell us that throwing a women to the ground that had just tried to physically attack a candidate by trying to shove a protest sign in his face, is kooky? What is kooky here, is how they completely overlooked the facts that didn’t support their kooky-story. And they further denigrate the issue by citing examples that have no bearing on the issue at hand. This is good example of the extremes Progressives will go to cloud the truth.

The only violence Moore has or will experience in his lifetime is in a food line.

Pablo said:
Which corporations? All of them? Will the next generation own them like we do now?

Well, if you were a miner working at the Big Branch Mine in West Virginia and you were killed because the corporation that runs the mine is more powerful than the regulatory agency charged with watching it, there’s one example. If you worked on the BP oil rig when it exploded and were killed, or if you were a fisherman who lost your livelihood because the fish were poisoned by oil and CoreXit, that’s another example. If you’re a person in a job that is shipped to a third world country by a corporation that spent millions lobbying for trade agreements and the stripping of tariffs, that’s another example. If you were a white collar worker whose job was shipped over to people who will do it for pennies an hour and that corporation spent millions lobbying the government to ensure the politician you own filibusters a new law closing a tax loophole for that, there’s yet another example. If you live in a state where there’s only one mega health insurance monopoly and you get sick, and are then dropped for getting sick and lose everything as a result, there’s another example. If you’re a granny who signed a deceptive loan agreement and then lost your house in a fraudulent foreclosure because Wall St. banks are making it hand over fist by crushing consumers with deceptive practices, and have grown too big and monopolistic to be regulated, there’s another one. If you own a property and a private gas company decides to frack your land, thus releasing toxic chemicals into the groundwater, there it is again.

These are all things happening today, and the big corporations anonymously throwing money into private groups like the Chamber of Commerce and Karl Rove’s group to put people into office are investing in a very important goal: the stripping of ALL regulations so they can crush the people even further; the reduction of ALL corporate taxes, which they’ve lobbied to punch through of loopholes anyway, and the stripping away of ALL consumer protections, etc. They don’t care if the US ends up a smoking, desperate, poverty ridden ruin because they’re socking their money in overseas tax shelters anyway. They have an exit strategy that you don’t have the luxury of enjoying. They’re looking at new customer bases now in India and China anyway. They don’t give two $#!&s about the “general welfare” of the U.S.

GlennBeckReview said:
GlennBeckReview said:
Well now, if the R’s hadn’t defeated the Disclosure Act, I could tell you exactly who’s contributing to the US Chamber of Commerce (We know that there are foreign companies who contribute to them.) and America Crossroads, Rove’s money machine putting out typically Rovian (deceitful) ads. So, one company that we can be sure of is Koch Industries. Moore, not Beck is the populist:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/becks-fake-populism-exposed-he-sides.html

An ABC news investigation just pegged the number going into shadowy groups as $277 million. 90% of this money, according to the NY Times, is going to Republicans. These corporations spent millions to make sure the Disclose Act didn’t pass and 100% of Republicans voted to filibuster it, along with a few ConservaDems. This is how it’s going to go now that Citizens United unlocked the gates of Hell. And since the media has been allowed to be concentrated in a small number of corporate hands, sexy propaganda will continue to promote this team mentality that uses people’s love of country to trick them into being crusaders for corporate goals. These corporate goals are to turn the US into a third world country where people are desperate and stupid, labor is cheap, and there’s no functioning government to protect the people from their abuses.

So there are no rich people or corporate leaders on the left. Why is that? Are those on the left just not as smart, or ambitious, or what? There must be some reason why every single corporate head is conservative.

writer said:
So there are no rich people or corporate leaders on the left. Why is that? Are those on the left just not as smart, or ambitious, or what? There must be some reason why every single corporate head is conservative.

I don’t know why this is so hard for you to understand, writer. It’s not being rich or heading a corporation that’s inherently bad; it’s using your power and money to rewrite the laws of the land and reshape the government in a way that tilts the scale so that your country deteriorates and those who don’t have your billions suffer as a direct result of your pursuit of profits.

Do you get the point here? It’s not left vs. right, although that’s the tool they use to warp your love of country into a crusade on behalf of their narrow interests. It’s the powerful using their power to hurt anyone who is not powerful as long as doing so adds more zeroes to their Swiss bank accounts.

So whytee, if it’s actually a money thing and not a left or right thing, why do you keep putting it in left or right terms? If you want to believe that conservative rich guys contribute politically, while liberal rich guys don’t, that’s fine. I think it’s a bit naive.

this shit is so funny. Both dems and reps are corrupt, who the hell spends a million dollars to get a job that pays 175,000 a year. It is all about power, both parties have that power and are playing people on both sides against each other to keep what they got

Anyone who is man enough to squash this fat maggot and clean up the mess with a bull-dozer would have my vote. What a disgusting waste of humanity he is.

writer said:
So whytee, if it’s actually a money thing and not a left or right thing, why do you keep putting it in left or right terms? If you want to believe that conservative rich guys contribute politically, while liberal rich guys don’t, that’s fine. I think it’s a bit naive.

I’m against outsized corporate political influence across the board because it opens the door for what I’m REALLY against, which is using political contributions to achieve a certain result that benefits you financially in the short term to the detriment of virtually everyone who is not a millionaire (although in the long term, their actions don’t ultimately benefit them because their children will have to live in the deteriorated world they helped create).

I believe that the Koch brothers etc. are bankrolling these shadowy campaigns against Democrats because some (not all) Democrats are standing in their way. I don’t think Republican politicians are inherently better or worse than Democratic politicians, but I do believe that at the end of the day, Democrats have to answer to the people. Because of the position Democrats take in general in matters of the needs of the people versus the needs of billionaires and big corporations, millionaires and billionaires who have progressive values are in essence throwing money at organizations whose goals will ultimately HURT their bottom lines. By definition, they’re re not using their money and influence to line their own pockets.

Conversely, I think, broadly speaking, at the end of the day, Republicans have to answer to business, which makes them more vulnerable to destructive corporate influence, which is why the shadowy groups are backing Republicans 90% of the time in this 2010 post-Citizens United election.

A perfect example is Congressman Peter DeFazio, who was being assaulted by $150K worth of attack ads from one of these fly-by-night 501(c)6 outfits put together to take advantage of Citizens United. An investigation finally revealed that the source of the money was one of the top hedge fund managers in New York who was pissed off that DeFazio was working to rein in the abusive Wall St. practices that led to this financial meltdown. So, here you have an elite hedge fund manager in New York manipulating an election all the way across the country in Oregon to benefit his narrow personal financial interest, which is in direct conflict with the best interest of all Americans. The Republican running against DeFazio does mean zip to the billionaire hedge manager; all he knows is that he’s home free if DeFazio is gone. You see how this works?

ss794 says:
“MOORE IS A LIAR!!!! Beck denounces violence and calls for nonviolence. Anyone who listens to Beck knows this.”

Beck started doing this only lately after being accused of inciting sedition against the gov’t by Klein. Before then he said he wanted to stab Moore, poison Pelosi, etc. etc. Beck’s rhetoric still has a violent tinge to it, and after Beck called for non-violence, one of his minions set out to commit mass murder. Get the facts.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/becks-violent-rhetoric-is-so-harsh-that.html

whytee, as an independent, I’m not that big a fan of Republicans or Democrats. So while I won’t deny that many Republicans are crooked and only out for their own self-interest, I don’t think it’s 90/10. More like 50/50. Both sides get more greedy as soon as they hit Washington. That’s not a left or right thing. More human nature.

whytee says: “So, here you have an elite hedge fund manager in New York manipulating an election all the way across the country in Oregon to benefit his narrow personal financial interest, which is in direct conflict with the best interest of all Americans. The Republican running against DeFazio does mean zip to the billionaire hedge manager; all he knows is that he’s home free if DeFazio is gone.”

This is why CU v FEC is such a tyranny to our democratic order. We need a Constitutional Amendment that takes all rights from corporations and distinguishes between money and speech. CU v FEC is the Dred Scott decision of our time. Dred Scott said that persons were property. CU v FEC says that properties are persons. John Roberts should be impeached, something else DeFazio is supposedly working on.

Writer, I agree. No matter what institution you look at–whether it’s a small town church or a multi-national corporation–somehow someone’s greed overtakes them and corrupts the whole thing. That’s why Democracy will always be a work in progress. You can’t set a system up and expect it to work without checks and balances in place and the constant vigilance of an informed and engaged populace. Money warps checks and balances, and because we have a greater wealth disparity than we’ve had since the 20s, and because corporations have been allowed to cannibalize each other into the kind of ultra-powerful monopolies we haven’t seen since Teddy Roosevelt trust busted back in the 19th Century, the system is beyond warped.

Things have been getting bad for a while, but I think Citizens United lit the fuse on a bomb that’s going to be incredibly difficult and complicated to defuse.

My point isn’t that Republicans are corrupt 90/10. The 90/10 point is that this is the ratio that these shadowy corporate money laundering groups are supporting Republicans to Democrats. That is a fact reported by the NY Times, not an opinion. But I agree with you that Dems are just as corruptible as Republicans. The whole system is corrupt. If you have to appease corporations to be able to have any kind of valid campaign because costs have become so inflated, we’ve got a problem. To stick your neck out and try to stop corporations from abusing the public trust is taking a major chance. This is why Peter DeFazio and Russ Feingold are fighting for their lives right now. They had the temerity to visibly and unequivocally take on Wall Street, which is the most apocalyptically powerful industry in the world right now. This is why Obama has handled Goldman Sachs and BP with a much lighter touch than our viability as a nation demands. I can understand his reasons why, but I think it’s a huge mistake. I think this is an all or nothing gamble. Of course, I’m not in his shoes, but I would like see somebody say what FDR said about Wall Street back in the Great Depression:

We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace, business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me,and I welcome their hatred.

GlennBeckReview said:
This is why CU v FEC is such a tyranny to our democratic order. We need a Constitutional Amendment that takes all rights from corporations and distinguishes between money and speech. CU v FEC is the Dred Scott decision of our time. Dred Scott said that persons were property. CU v FEC says that properties are persons. John Roberts should be impeached, something else DeFazio is supposedly working on.

Agree completely. I think that Citizens United was what Roberts was put on the SCOTUS to do. We desperately need a Constitutional Amendment to define people as people, and corporations not as people. Corporations don’t die, they don’t get sick, they don’t have human compassion or wisdom; they have only one responsibility according to their charter: profit. Corporations do not deserve the fundamental rights guaranteed to people–people who fought and bled and died for this country–in the Constitution.

We’re working on it. Sounds straight forward enough, but there are many things to be careful about: the free press and the freedom of religion for example. Also, states cannot be allowed to reinstate the rights that an Amendment strips from them.

It’s a lot of work, and we don’t even have the Amendment hammered out yet. Once we do, there will be a 50 state petition drive. It’s cool working on something that the pundits are starting to think about.

If that is true, why is you fat belligerent ass still around?

Oh how conservatives hate it when the facts come back and bite them on the ass. They answer back by spewing more hatred and lies.

esd2000 says:
“Oh how conservatives hate it when the facts come back and bite them on the ass. They answer back by spewing more hatred and lies.”

First and foremost among those lies is that liberals lie and hate. Conservatives, particularly Glenn Beck, turn reality upside down.