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Mike Huckabee On The ‘Very Pro-Choice’ Herman Cain: ‘The Damage Has Been Done’

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With his rise to the top tier of the Republican 2012 race, Herman Cain has seen the scrutiny of his policy positions increase dramatically, and it is his stance on (illegal?) abortion that stole the limelight and confounded voters this week. On Fox & Friends this morning, Mike Huckabee‘s weekly take turned to Cain, and he found the candidate’s stance to be “very pro-choice” despite the backtracking– possibly too pro-choice for the people of Iowa.

Huckabee first took a somewhat skeptical look at the new provision in Cain’s 999 plan that would except people under a certain income rate from the second 9% tax (“it would be 909 for poor people,” Cain explained yesterday), noting that the program appears to “create winners and losers” by going district by district and exempting certain people from a plan whose appeal is that it is fair to all.

RELATED: Herman Cain Tells Piers Morgan That He Is Anti-Abortion, Yet Pro-Choice?

He then turned to the abortion comments, however– a controversy having its roots in Cain’s comments on Stossel that left the host somewhat confused. He repeated those comments to Piers Morgan, who was equally perplexed by Cain’s insistence that his own pro-life views did not need to be reflected in a government that he ran. Things only got more complicated when Cain went on to say on Fox News that he was so pro-choice, as far as the government’s place in the abortion debate stands, that he would disregard the law in an event where a family member was legally prohibited from receiving an abortion. Needless to say, for Huckabee, this was a bridge too far.

RELATED: Herman Cain: I’m Not Pro-Choice, I’m Pro-Choice On Getting An Illegal Abortion

Calling the stance “very pro-choice,” Huckabee argued that even with Cain trying to backtrack by calling himself “100% pro-life,” there was little repair he could do to his comments. “The damage has been done,” Huckabee concluded, particularly with religious voters and social conservatives. “He cannot win Iowa by offending them,” Huckabee argued, noting that being pro-choice was far too radical a position for many voters who choose candidates based on their stances on social issues, no matter what his stances on other policy issues that come up in the campaign.

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  • Tim Tebow

    “We like it simple, cuz life is simple, right?”

    Or maybe because we’re just stupid.

  • Anonymous

    If I were Huckabee, I wouldn’t order another Godfather’s pizza (for a multitude of reasons).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M5V6VTQAVLARF7XXO47Z5OCZWM TangledThorns

    Its the economy stupid. No really cares about abortion right now. Right now Cain is the only with a plan on kick starting the economy into high gear. Not even Obama has a plan that will work, unless you work in a public union that supports Democrats. 

  • Anonymous

    The damage has well and truly been done.

    You’ve now entered the political arena with all the criticism that goes with it.

    I think you’ll find the Walnut Ice Cream flavor may have worn off with some. 

    …Well done Mr Cain, well done!!

  • Exgoper

    As I’ve noted before, Cain isn’t to blame for this. He was doing nothing more than trying to honor the two GOP mantras which are at war with themselves:

    1.) Abortions should be stopped.
    2.) Government shouldn’t interfere. 

    These are irreconcilable positions in terms of policy. Cain exposed that uncomfortable truth.

  • Rufus Danegro

    So now Big Mike Huckabee has weighed in with his “opinion.”  That give the evangelical right the go ahead to put down their Cain signs and star calling him an abortion loving heathen!!! His campaign will be over by the next debate at this point. 9-9-9 is a joke and now he’s been exposed as not being an anti-abortion zealot. As we all know conservatives have imposed litmus tests that even Reagan could not squeek by. Its this kind of closing off of the big tent that will allow Obama to reign supreme in 2012.

    Bye bye Cain, bye bey conservatives.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Good post!

  • Anonymous

    Like x 1,000

  • Rufus Danegro

    Godfathers sux.

    NUFF SAID

  • Anonymous

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  • Rufus Danegro

     Hey everybody its my new stalker tiny eddie putz! Seems I got way under his skin exposing him as a worthless spammer and now he’s desperate for revenge. Too bad he ain’t gonna get it.

    and by the way eddie-your post is of topic again!!!!

    LOL

  • Exgoper

    Perhaps he should have called himself Rufus Putacorkinityouinsanehatefulconservatard?

  • Rufus Danegro

    Solid work!

    Seen WCinW lately? LOL

  • Anonymous

    Its confusing how conservatives say they don’t want government in their personal lives. But still want the government to stop abortions. 

  • Exgoper

    Nope. Like her idol Saint Sarah, her appearances seem to be a lot less frequent these days!

  • Rufus Danegro

    That does explain a lot!

    Who do you think will be the next GOP flavor of the month? I’m going out on a limb and saying that Gingrich is going to see a sudden rise right before everybody remembers he sux.

    Kind of like Huckabee last election.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Nothing confusing about conservative hypocrisy. Pretty commonplace. 

  • Hetoimasia

    I think it would be nice if he said that he didn’t think abortion was right, but that he could not outlaw it in all its forms as the leader of a democratic nation. Win win!

  • Hetoimasia

    I always read it as WCW. POWERBOMB!

  • Anonymous

    You’re stating facts, Ex.

  • Hetoimasia

    It is the perfect example of congnitive dissonance. I think that the leering, dribbling ideology that the Republican party espouses is so beyond parody it’s tragic.

  • Hetoimasia

    If only I spelt ‘cognitive’ correctly. *facepalm*

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Cain. You’ve done it now! It looks like you didn’t “escape the plantation” soon enough. Sympathizing with a pro-life stance? Changing 9,9,9 to 9,0,9 to appease the poor? That’s not the type of thing the Republicans saved you from “the plantation” to say. What happened to the Cain who wouldn’t change his 9,9,9 plan because if you are not rich it is your own fault? You’re like the cute puppy the Republicans brought home, but now you’ve grown into a burdensome mutt crapping all over the place. You’ve better watch it Cain. They’re starting to get buyer’s remorse. We’ve seen it before with the Republican frontrunners, like Perry. They may just be making plans to drop you back off at “the plantation.”

  • Anonymous

    For the Republican base, it’s always about Abortion.  And they cheer the Wall Street bankers who destroyed our economy.

  • Rufus Danegro

     LOL!!!!

    An the plantation metaphor is appropos since the GOP shill love to use it so much.

    Bravo.

  • Anonymous

    You all do know there is an “edit” button, right?

  • Hetoimasia

    Huckabee is a pretty shitty bassist, whilst we’re at it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reasonable-Views/100002798439588 Reasonable Views

    The term “somewhat confused” seems to describe
    a lot of people after a Herman Cain interview.  Last week he hit the
    trifecta of gaffes, and he still managed to win a straw poll and finish with terrific
    numbers in Iowa.  How’s he doing it?  Is he unbreakable?  Does
    he have some special dispensation? http://bit.ly/pWccZ9

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    Herman Cain doesn’t believe in abortions. But unlike the others Herman Cain sees life more for what it is than trying to force a personal vision on someone else trying to score campaign points.

    Herman Cain – 2012

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    Herman Cain doesn’t believe in abortions. But unlike the others Herman Cain sees life more for what it is than trying to force a personal vision on someone else trying to score campaign points.

    Herman Cain – 2012

  • Anonymous

    That pretty much is what his first comments said. He should have left it at that. I actually respected the first answer, though at first glance it may have seemed contradictory. He was  basically saying he holds a personal view, but his personal views would not shape policy decisions. I can respect that. At some point he must have received the memo that his answer wasn’t ”right” enough. Now he is backtracking and making a fool of himself. His position is essentially, let’s leave it up to individuals to decide if they want to break the law.  

  • Anonymous

    [insert Seinfeld bass riff here]

  • Rufus Danegro

    LOL

  • Exgoper

    @d2bd83d0e7a5a5f6ad1cd168d91acb93:disqus 

    A friend of mine once commented on how new studies about nutrition constantly turn the last study on its head and noted that “some day even saturated fats will have their day in the sun.”

    That’s kind of how I feel about the GOP line up. 

    You may be right about Gingrich. He’s always been a party favorite, although I thought he was fatally wounded by Tiffanygate. Watching the last debate I thought it might lead to Santorum’s day in the sun, but no one seems to think he performed well, so I’ve rethought that. Which leads me back to Perry. I think he’s still the most formidable anti-Mitt. He’s got the money, the organization and a few endorsements. 

    Ultimately, though, my money is still on Mitt. (Or as Jon Stewart called him, the GOP’s “safety school.” LOL!)

  • Exgoper

    I think that’s only if you’re a registered user. 

  • Hetoimasia

    I’m a ‘guest’!

  • Anonymous

    That’s weird.

  • Anonymous

    He revised his answer so that abortions would be illegal, so he is enforcing his personal vision, whether we agree with it or not. His first answer fit your post, and he should have left it at that, instead of tripping himself up backtracking.

  • HowardNY

    And given your name, I think no one cares. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M5V6VTQAVLARF7XXO47Z5OCZWM TangledThorns

     The same Wall Street bankers that Obama bailed out? The same Wall Street bankers that funds Obama’s campaign? Nice try, loon.

  • Anonymous

    You neglected to meantion…..’the same Wall Street Bankers’ that the Republicans love as well, and in bed with………the Walll Street that causes economic problems at the same rate it so calls creates the solutions~~~~~both sides are entrenced&indebted to them!

  • Anonymous

    Contrary to popular belief….’Negro’ meaning ‘Black’ is not offensive to all that are black, there are many that accept the term as defining their color!

  • Anonymous

    Mike Huckabee is a nobody being a Palin/Coulter wanna be! He’s trying to be an influence of the future of the radical extreme of the fringe of the Republican party. Truly all the “Wet Dream”‘s who didn’t run still trying to influence their parties choice. Their worst nightmare is the reelection of the president. According to the Tactical Evangelical antagonist(TEA) party abortions should be stopped because they said so and government shouldn’t interfere. But Government should stay out of our lives except when they deem it necessary to force their religious beliefs onto others whether they like it or not.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, those Wall Street bankers, moron.

  • Anonymous

    When you “cannot win by offending” a very small segment of the electorate, then you’re not in a democracy at all, are you?

  • Anonymous

    When you “cannot win by offending” a very small segment of the electorate, then you’re not in a democracy at all, are you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZCDEG24W2PC2QJJE2BHXX5BAOM Tiny Card

    they really trying to take Herman Cain down

    This is crazy..

    But ye,t the people keep standing behind them

    They are gonna force MItt Romney on us…

  • Anonymous

    If it’s “leaking out” like that, it’s not truth, it’s santorum.

  • Anonymous

    He has Romney.

  • Rufus Danegro

    You left out WCinW!

  • Anonymous

    Cain:

    Before Saying Communities Could ‘Ban Mosques,’ Cain Called Building Them A ‘Guaranteed’ Right

  • Anonymous

    Wow, that sounds so apropos, given that he’s an insanehatefulconsevatard.

  • Anonymous

    Someone piss in your cornflakes this morning, son?

  • Rufus Danegro

     that would be me! ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Stick a fork in Herb, he’s done.  As a republican you’re not allowed to be anything other than a anti-abortion, frothing at the mouth no exceptions zealot and you sure can’t offer any sympathy what so ever to the working poor in your tax plan.

  • Anonymous

    Ya did a good job too!  :-D

  • Anonymous

    well I will try and keep this going daily and make the list contingent on the stupidity of the posts.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Exgoper

    I’d have put Stonepark and just4thefax just ahead of Michelle, but that’s because at least Michelle can spell and form a sentence. 

  • Exgoper

    ^  + 1 thepoliticalcat!

  • Anonymous

    The Pro Choice answer?

    Yeah, that’s what did it!

  • Rufus Danegro

    I would just like to give a shout out to all the liberals, all the independents, and all the clear thinking non-partisans who make this site great. Last year this site was overflowing with right wing wackos and thank the lord above that many of them have decided to go back to hot air or Breitbart, or to whatever echo chamber they were spewing at before. Yes some die hard right wing tools still plague us but they are vastly outnumbered by the above groups of posters and I for one am thankful that the quality of overall thought at this site has gone up. Never forget that we must challenge their lies and memes because that’s all they have. They don’t have solutions and they would trick us if they could into believing their myopic falsehoods. Its up to people like us to keep the fires of truth burning.

    I thank you all for your efforts.

    Amen. 

  • http://twitter.com/usernamenuse sailing

    Cain’s plan DOESN’T work, it was written based on 1996 scenarios and rates, and it adds a sales tax AND keeps a flat tax –up to now the question was flat tax OR sales tax — Cain says ‘both.’

    Ron Paul’s plan to cut a trillion in his first year, balance the budget by his third year by cutting military spending to 2006 levels (the last year the GOP controlled both houses) and by cutting 5 departments, moving necessary other services, while preserving senior entitlements and letting those under 25 opt out of social security, cut corporate taxes and end taxes on personal savings — THAT play will restore America.  Check it out on his web page. http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/

  • Anonymous

    Racist.

  • Anonymous

    Eww.

  • ceeza

    I’m currently watching a little football and drinking a Negro Modelo… and it’s delicious..

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh the frothy truth can’t be stopped!!

  • Hagen619dj

    You sir….are entirely WRONG! Republicans believe that abortion is wrong. It’s killing a child. By being pro-choice Cain means that he feels abortions should be when it comes to incest or rape.  Don’t really see how that is so hard to understand. Man, the public gets a candidate to say something they don’t agree with and the world is coming to an end. And sir.  WE do give a damn about the economy. We don’t cheer the bankers either. Your perception is way off base in relivance to the way things are today. contrarory to what you think….republicans what the same things; accept spending stimulas and giving handouts.

  • Hagen619dj

    Boy, that’s alot of hypithetical dribble too!  I’m sorry that republicans are so tragic.  Oh my, what can we ever do about that?  We just espouses to much………….!

  • Exgoper

    I’m fine with anyone of any political persuasion posting here so long as they’re reasonably respectful, can make a legitimate argument (“Obama is a Marxist” isn’t an argument), can support their position with verifiable facts, doesn’t whine because they haven’t seen enough stories about Solyndra, promises to check their spelling and syntax and doesn’t post links to any Andrew Breitbart faux journalistic enterprise.

  • Mencius

    That’s been the plan all along. The core GOP donors have never cared for the Tea Party as anything other than useful idiots who vote and the Libertarian/Koch crowd doesn’t seem to realize that the vast majority of Americans, including many Republicans, don’t want the Kool-Aid their handing out. Romney has the best chance of beating Obama but he’s still going to lose. 

  • Hagen619dj

    Can you in all honesty say that killing a baby is right? We don’t like having to pay for them either. It’s inhuman to do such a thing.   That child has a right to live, it has a right to choose what it wants in life.  It didn’t  ask to be in the womb…that was a choice given by the two people who undoubtly decided toget together.

  • Anonymous

    Nobody thinks abortion is a good thing. Even people who have abortions feel bad for doing it. My point is you have to have a consistency in your message. You cant say the government needs to stay out of your life, when it comes to things that you disagree with, but then you want the government to enforce things that you totally agree with based on religious beliefs. You don’t want the government to enforce gun laws, but you want them to keep gays from getting married and fight in the military, because the bible says its a sin. You don’t want the government to participate in your health care, but you want them to tell a woman what she can and cant do with her body. Its all about consistency. 

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, all!

  • Rmilter

    Yes Herman Cain’s 999 tax plan would do wonders for the economy. If you think taxing working class people as much 1000 times as much as they are taxed now and taxing the top income tiers less is a good idea.

  • Anonymous

    This is great fun.

    Like Palin, the more Cain is proven unfit for the office the more teabaggers will rally around him.

    lol….there favorite qualification is being unqualified.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jillian.pierone Jillian Pierone

    I’m guessing you haven’t read ron paul’s plan?  even limbaugh loves ron paul’s plan.  a great deal of republicans can whine about ron paul not being war hungry and his wanting to put war up to as much debate and scrutiny as the budget.. but any good conservative knows that Ron Paul OWNS the financial issues.  Not only has he written books on it– but look at the man’s portfolio! his worst investments bank at over 30%!!! he’s predicted EVERY MAJOR FINANCIAL CRISIS YEARS BEFORE THEY HAPPENED and explained it to a T!  (youtube it, i dare u!)  if i were the “average war hungry republican” i would forget about building bombs at least for one term before the entire economy collapses. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate with a viable plan that represents the PEOPLE.  Cain doesn’t cut taxes ONE CENT. his plan in fact RAISES REVENUES. he just changes who pays what. rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic won’t keep it from sinking. Ron Paul is the only one preparing the lifeboats.

  • Anonymous

    Ain’t that the truth?!

  • Anonymous

    You make a good point about the spelling and sentence structure, but the sentences she puts together are just so fn’ ignorant it’s hard for me to put anybody above her.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t eat pizza with a fork, silly!

  • http://twitter.com/LifeDontWasteIt Leslie A H Redweik

    Cain is consistently unprepared to answer policy questions. It rather crazy that someone that unprepared has gotten this far frankly. The GOP needs to stop being desperate and jumping around. Personally I’m backing Bachmann because she has all the policies I like, has been around long enough to have a good grasp on policies (including being on the Select Intelligence Committee- big benefit to know current foreign, military and security issues) yet has not been in politics for 30+ years either, has other than political life experience, can attract social conservatives (why McCain lost it for us), stands up and votes the way she says, not lip service then does what expedient for herself, sticks to the GOP conservative platform even when the RINOs try to pressure her into caving, generally likeable and personable. Overall has demonstated strong committment to getting the government reduced (greatly) and spending way down (utter necessity). Excellent candidate. … Well, okay, I’ll be honest, part of me would like to rub having the first women Prez in liberals faces too,  but that’s just a bonus, not a real reason. :)

  • Fudge441

    This idiots 15 minutes are just about over.

  • Anonymous

    So wrong. So many times. I guess you really can’t fix stupid.

    By the way, all of our economic problems can be traced back to the government.

  • Anonymous

    Cain’s position depends who he is talking to at the time.  He is making it up as he goes. If Cain had solid core principles on this critical issue, he would not be confounding pro-life voters on this.  He would take a stand, articulate it well, and stick with it. 

    I am sick of seeing Cain back pedal all the time and get a pass for it.  Was Cain “a consistent and unwavering champion of pro-life issues” when Cain endorsed pro-abortion Romney in 2008? 

    If all pro-life voters have is pro-abortion flip-flopper Romney, another abortion flip-flopper in Cain, and Perry who endorsed pro-abortion Giuliani, who else do we have?  Santorum and Bachmann can’t even break past the margin of error in any poll.  Ron Paul is the last man standing; Paul has signed the pro-life pledge, and he is actually discussing his pro-life position in his speeches and TV ads – that is a refreshing change.

  • Tim Tebow

    Tell me, Leslie, you are a mother. Just as you believe in “small government,” do you also believe in “small parenting?”

    Thanks for your time,

    Tim

  • Anonymous

    Our economic system was created, top to bottom, by the government. It’s what makes us a great country. Fixing problems along the way is a part of the deal. That’s the part Republicans don’t understand.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Cain’s position is clear. He thinks abortion should be illegal, but he thinks people should break the law and have abortions if they want. Crystal.

  • http://twitter.com/MerlinYoda MerlinYoda

    Tell me, Tim. Do you believe government should treat you as a child and tell you what to do for your own good? 

    Nice try at an analogy to make your point but it falls flat on its face. A parent has a moral duty to care for and protect their child to the best of our ability. The only thing our government has a moral duty to is to protect our liberties, not “take care of us”.

  • Boop2002

    As you may be aware, the left and the media are going nuts with negative articles about Herman Cain and some of his missteps. Here’s a response I posted in the comments section of one of those articles. If you are a Herman Cain supporter and want to help his campaign, please post comments when you come across these attacks. Feel free to use my ideas or my words which address the 4 lines of attack they are using.: Mr. Cain is not a professional politician who has been “handled” by the so called experts and schooled in the art of answering the gotcha questions. Regarding his position on abortion, he is 100% prolife and the National Right to Life Committee vouches for it here :http://www.lifenews.com/2011/10/21/national-right-to-life-herman-cain-is-fully-pro-life/. You can be personally opposed to abortion, but understand because of Roe v Wade we’re stuck with it. Under the law, it is a family’s right to choose, that doesn’t mean we agree, the two views are not mutually exclusive. Herman was sticking by his personal values of being anti abortion, while respecting the constitutional right that was given with Roe v Wade. Until he becomes president there isn’t much he can do about the law. When he becomes President, he will appoint SC judges who stick with the original intent of the constitution and not find imaginary rights that the liberal judges seemed to find when they ruled on Roe v Wade. Additionally, Mr. Cain spent $1M on a campaign to urge black voters to vote prolife: http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/. Regarding the alleged flip flop on negotiating with terrorists, here is the unedited video of Herman Cain with Wolf Blitzer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y69zG6kaFIg&feature=related. He clearly states that after considering all the facts of a particular situation, I could see myself making that decision as President. Critics are parsing his words and deducing that Herman Cain would negotiate with terrorists. That’s not what he said. He was given a hypothetical scenario and he gave a nuanced response which his detractors have turned into a political fader. Could Herman Cain have chosen his words better? Absolutely, and he acknowledged this on numerous occasions. I’m sure Herman Cain will make some mistakes in the future because as he says, I’m not a politician I’m a problem solver: http://teamcain.hermancain.com/an/mediaCollection?id=6a95fb4c-bbe6-4aff-ad69-3b77e136f52a. On the immigration question, Herman Cain shares the views of most Americans who want our borders closed to the illegal invaders who are not only breaking the law, but are taking away jobs from citizens and draining the social safety nets of our country. Who cares if he said he wants an electrified fence. Sherriff Joe Arpaio said his fence is electrified and it doesn’t kill people. Look at what Mr. Cain plans to do with the border: http://www.hermancain.com/the-issues. Mr. Cain doesn’t play the political correctness game, but when the sharks in the media whip his comments up into a frenzy of negative publicity, he had to respond. Recognizing the necessity of revitalizing economically depressed communities, Herman rolled out his proposal for economic opportunity zones which would create jobs in cities across the country and help the poor. Under Cain’s plan, the federal government would designate for exemption from the 9-9-9 plan special areas with high unemployment and poverty. In these areas, businesses could deduct their entire payroll from their income subject that would normally be subject to the business tax. People who live or work in these zones would also get tax benefits. The idea of economic empowerment as a way to raise up the less fortunate among us is not some new idea of Mr. Cain. Mr Cain has been preaching this message for many years in fact you can read the history of his views in columns he wrote over a five year period here: http://www.economicfreedomcoalition.com/press-opinion.asp. Mr. Cain was not pandering to the criticism of his 999 plan with his economic opportunity zone initiative. On the contrary, Mr. Cain’s 999 deals with how we will be taxed and the economic opportunity zone is one way Mr. Cain will promote growth. To use Mr. Cain’s analogy of apples and oranges, critics are mixing apples and oranges: 999 deals with taxes and economic opportunity zones deals with growth. Fallacious attacks that suggest he’s tweaking his initial plan show a complete lack of understanding fundamental business and economic principles. Why are the media and the left so quick to whip up a firestorm of criticism anytime Mr. Cain makes a misstep? What are they afraid of? Since it’s obvious that they think Mr. Cain’s candidacy is a joke, I’m a little puzzled by the plethora of media stories which disparage his every move. Maybe the media and the left have come to the same conclusion as me, that Mr. Cain will beat President Obama and become the next President of the United States. Elizabeth Lavars, Retired Capt, USAF

  • Anonymous

    Since you refuse to use paragraphs, I refuse to read your sh*t.

  • Anonymous

    HAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA to the f*cking HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

  • Exgoper

    A little piece of advice: next time use paragraph returns. 

  • Tim Tebow

    Mr. Yoda,

    Do we hire police officers who believe in “small policing,” teachers who believe in “small teaching,” or accept the notion of parents against “BIG PARENTING?”

    No. We want every agency and authority to perform efficiently and effectively with regards to the task at hand, yes? We don’t care about the size of anything–we just want it to work well, right?

    We are all expected to live our lives largely independent of the government–that is true–but living my life as a Pizza Mogul involves building a better pizza for my customers. This is my main concern in life: getting and maintaing a customer base to support my business. My one goal in life is to make a profit.

    Since I have only one goal, I spend all of my time working to that end. I don’t have time to evaluate arctic ice core samples, test the air quality of urban and suburban Los Angeles, or monitor the purchase of exotic wild animals by private individuals.

    In my world I am known as a pizza genius and I know everything about getting people fat with thawed out pizza that is trucked in from 700 mile away, but I know nothing about Anthropomorphic Global Warming, healthy air quality, or the relative safety of the good people of Ohio with respect to unstable, private ‘farm’ owners with a penchant for owning illegal firearms.

    On these matters I am little more than a child–I know NOTHING and NEED government to help me. Individualism necessitates that my focus is narrow: I can’t be bothered to properly formulate a coherent opinion on abortion or the rights of homosexuals; I MAKE PIZZAS FOR GAWDS SAKE!  24/7!!

    I’m a big business man, SEE? But my concerns are narrow–that’s why I NEED somebody to help with things I don’t understand, like most things actually.

    But here’s my problem: If I admit that I don’t know something, I invite these ELITES (people who went to college and studied things other than anchovies) to meddle in my business. “They wanna tell me that I havta pay more money to truck my pizza dough in from 700 mile away cuz of AGW! Bull$hit, I say!”

    Waaa…I wah my mommie (Koch Bros)!! I wah my mommie (DICK armey)!!! Wahhhh!!!! Guberment don’t know nuttin! Why caint I owns a bengal tiger? I’s am umericain!!! WAAAAhh! Mommiie!!!

    We’re all children in this world, brothers and sister….

    Love, Brother Timothy

  • Anonymous

    Excellent post. Thank you.

  • Anonymous
  • Mr. Pennypacker

    Well I can’t read that! 

  • Anonymous

    Obama didn’t bail out the bankers. Bush did. In 2008, TARP. Of course, facts and dates are a bit much to ask for from a Fox newsie, loon.

  • Chasmc

    She is not caving, tis true, but he camapign is.  It is a good as dead.  She should have someone do some researsh be for she opens her mouth and says another unimformed staement or  refuse to answer a legitimate question.  She is not beter than Cain, in that respect.

  • Anonymous

    As WBD has so elegantly pointed out, it looks like you are the racist around here.  No one else looked at that name in such an ugly way.  And for you to try to demonize someone like that is shameful.  You should apologize (but you won’t, because you’re a coward).

    You, sir, can go to Hell.

  • Anonymous

    Negro IS offensive when uttered to blacks in America, especially by non-blacks. The word has a racist historical context. That can never change. 

  • Anonymous

    Only a Fidel Castro type would view a democratic election which had the highest participation of it’s citizens ever as a “coup.”

  • Anonymous

    Forgot Pablo…the resident troll and ToiletInWisconsin.

  • http://twitter.com/DrunkReport DrunkReport.com

    ^truth

  • Anonymous

    Obama was the same in 2008, didn’t know his butt from a hole in the ground and still doesn’t.  Desperate people do desperate things, like the Demons in 2008, going for an unknown who won’t or can’t prove who he is and had no record except for voting “Present”, which is pretty worthless.  I was a Lifelong Democrat in 2008, but loved my country enought that I did not fall for the BS and LIES I heard coming from Husseins mouth.  Now, he, Pelosi, and Reid have turned it into the Looney Tune Legion of Demons, which I will never lower my standards to be part of.  Obama is a total Failure and the Worst President in American History!  Make Jimah look like a Saint!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KPKFYC5CCVUCNGVK4A4OSAT3ZM Amen Baby

    LOL @ Huckebee.  

    Mike is pure Republican establishment , as is Fox news in general

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KPKFYC5CCVUCNGVK4A4OSAT3ZM Amen Baby

    LOL @ Huckebee.  

    Mike is pure Republican establishment , as is Fox news in general

  • http://larkforsure.wordpress.com Yuan Yi Peng

    [ SOS ] Complaint about Human Rights Violations by IBM China on Centennial 

    Please Google:

    Tragedy of Labor Rights Repression in IBM China
       or
    How Much IBM Can Get Away with is the Responsibility of the Media 
       or
    IBM detained mother of ex-employee on the day of centennials

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJ4I7WFS6DP3BSEF5DGRCTWFRQ Karl Magnus

    Why does anyone care what Huckleberry says or thinks about anything?

    If you want to put abortion on a State ballot, please do, until then it happens to be legal. Deal with it, Huckster.
    BTW … Mr. Cain said: “It’s none of my business”.
    MY thoughts exactly – unless and until it comes up for a vote.

    ~(Ä)~

  • Pablo

    Children are supposed to be incompetent, unable to care for themselves and incapable of making wise decisions. You’re not.

    Parenting is as much teaching as it is protection and support.

  • Pablo

    I could have gotten behind Bachmann, but she’s showing herself to be an unprincipled opportunist. I see her tanking in Iowa and endorsing Romney. I’d like to be be wrong about that.

  • Anonymous

    With all the criticisms from the left against Cain, the one thing they cannot say is that Obama is more knowledgeable or better able to handle the mess our economy is in and which he has exacerbated.  Cain is far and away the more able and sensible, and certainly not as dogmatic in his ideology as Obama.

    I believe the American public has more faith in Cain and would rather give Cain their vote than Obama.  But then, that is true of just about any Republican running for President.

  • Pablo

    1000 X 0 = 0.

  • Pablo

    Really? Perhaps you’ll point to the section of the Constitution that sets up our economic system.

  • Pablo

    Right. It’s one of those words that you have to check what color you are before you can use it. It could be perfectly acceptable discourse, or you could be a filthy racist, depending on the color of your skin.

    MLK Jr. would be proud.

  • Pablo

    Even people who have abortions feel bad for doing it.

    Why?

  • Pablo

    So, you’re voting Obama again? Heh.

    I ♥ irony.

  • Exgoper

    I think your entire post is undermined by three little words: nine, nine, nine. Cain’s “sensible” plan is a complete sham, and has been reviled not just by people on the left, but on the right as well. Just read conservative economist Bruce Bartlett’s skewering of this and you realize how utterly clueless Cain is. 

    So yes, it’s actually quite easy to say that Obama is more knowledgeable and able than Cain. 

  • Anonymous

    At least 9-9-9 is a start.  We should be talking about replacing the ridiculously unmanageable US Tax Code and start over again.  And Obama?? Hasn’t a clue of what to do and only wants to keep repeating the same old mistakes that have gotten us in deeper and deeper in the hole and on the verge of bankruptcy.  He has no ideas and doesn’t talk with anyone who can come up with new ideas…just the same old tax and spend Liberals.

  • Exgoper

    No one disagrees about the need to fix the tax code, including Obama. And if you actually read what he’s said about this — and not through the Fox News filter — you’d know that. But flattening the code so that the poor and middle class pay more while the rich take yet ANOTHER big tax break? That’s a complete non-starter. 

  • Anonymous

    I would have to say almost everyone is pro-choice when it comes to themselves.  Im not saying everyone chooses abortion but I think everyone wants control over that decision to be individual not Big Government telling you what to do in such a personal matter.

    The only logical position of those that consider abortion murder is to create laws treating it as murder.  Period.  There is no middle ground in my opinion.  If you cut your 5 year olds throat its murder and you go to jail or are executed.  Murder is murder.  Period.

    I do not believe the Government should treat abortion as murder and you know what – neither do you nor do  the near complete majority of the country.  I might not be able to explain precisely why  that is but we do not really see abortion as murder.

    If ‘pro-life’ persons were in touch with that reality they could focus on putting all their efforts into woman’s reproductive health, sex education and a massive adoption effort for unwanted babies.  Because, no one really thinks abortion is anywhere near slitting a 5 yr. old’s throat.  No where near.

  • Anonymous

    I know, I know. As a Republican you have never read the Constitution, so you need somebody to do it for you. I’ve seen it a thousand times. Here’s yet another part of the document you refuse to read from Article I – The Legislative Branch:

    Section 8 – Powers of Congress

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;…

  • Anonymous

    President Obama is so much more competent and intelligent than any of these leprechauns.

  • Anonymous

    President Obama is so much more competent and intelligent than any of these leprechauns.

  • Franksharon

    what the hell does abortions have to do with solving this countries problems before we are unable to do so—-HERMAN CAIN HAS MY VOTE—the rest of them and the media are doing just as you– talking about abortions and other items that have absolutely nothing to DO WITH  saving this country——-WE WANT TO REPLACE THE CURRENT TAX SYSTEM—STOP ALL FOREIGN AID UNTIL WE CAN AFFORD IT–THERE HAS BEEN TO MUCH PUT ON THE AMERICAN WORKERS SHOULDERS—GET PEOPLE LIKE HILLARY OUT OF OFFICE—HERMAN IS RIGHT ABOUT HIS PLAN ONCE THE GRAFT IS TAKEN OUT WE WANT NEED NEAR THE MONEY WE HAVE TO PAY NOW—AND THE MEDIA IS BEHINDN THIS ALSO——LETS GET JOBS BACK INTO AMERICA—–THE HELL WITH SAVING OTHER COUNTRIES WE NEED LIFE JACKETS NOW BEFORE WE DROWN—–IT ABSOLUTELY LOOKS TO ME LIKE A CONSPIRACY TO BREAK THIS COUNTRY—

  • Anonymous

    Are you disagreeing that negro is an offensive word to American blacks or are you just upto your usual prattling?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rose-Jaeger/100001541900451 Rose Jaeger

    “I’m pro life, but I know not everyone agrees with me on that particular
    topic, and I respect that. I’ll probably never change my conviction on
    that, and some of you won’t change yours.
    But in this day in which we talk about choice and the importance of it,
    surely we can agree that if under the Supreme Court choice is mandated,
    that choice should be as educated a choice as is humanly possible.” Mike Huckabee

    Source: 2001 State of the State address to the Arkansas legislature
    Jan 9, 2001

    The above statement was made by Huckabee as Governor of Arkansas.  I don’t see how his statement is any different from what Cain has been saying.  Huckabee seriously is in need to review his past stances and statements before he starts throwing rocks at someone else.
     

  • Debra1682

    Very interesting comment made by Mike Huckabee when you consider he feels the same exact way Herman Cain does.  Check out his record. Mike Huckabee on Abortion Click here for 19 full quotes on Abortion OR other candidates on Abortion OR background on Abortion.In AR, instituted “Choose Life” license plates. (Nov 2008)Life question reflects nation’s nature & equality of humans. (Feb 2008)Will lead fight for constitutional ban on abortion. (Feb 2008)I’m pro-life, but have no opinion on Justice O’Connor. (Jan 2008)No states rights for moral issues like abortion. (Nov 2007)No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)Led Arkansas to human life amendment in state constitution. (Sep 2007)Consensus impossible: pro-choice world fundamentally differs. (Jun 2007)Hate abortion but allow it is like hate slavery but allow it. (May 2007)Certainly good day for America when Roe v. Wade is repealed. (May 2007)Embryonic stem cell research creates life to end a life. (May 2007)Pro-life includes improving life after birth. (Jan 2007)Outlaw all abortions; err on the side of life. (Jan 2007)Pro-life and pro-death penalty, & sees them as far different. (Jan 2007)Even Americans who are pro-choice are pro-life. (Jan 2007)Eliminate public funding for abortion organizations. (Nov 2002)Supports woman’s right-to-know legislation. (Jan 2001)Pro-life, but respects choice as mandated law. (Jan 2001)By deciding abortion is OK, we’re our own god. (Sep 1997) Notice the second to last one there:  PRO-LIFE, BUT RESPECTS CHOICE AS MANDATED BY LAW!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mabrickey Mark Brickey

    Where does 1 start in a string conversation like THIS?!?! 1st, u definitely NOT the Tebow that I know… leave it at that…
    WHERE do u get off comparing the Fed to parenting?!?!? Or, at least in THAT way!?!? 
    Parenting is a SMALL organization in which 1-2 adults guide those that are growing & maturing into ADULTS themselves – teaching them how to wipe their own….. how to tell if what’s coming out of their noses is just snot or if they’re really ill… How to wisely utilize that $10 just earned for 2 hours’ labor…

    If this were to be a Fed comparison, $6 of that 10 would be confiscated… $4 of which would be wasted in bureaucratic waste, going through 10 hands up then 10 back down to tell Jr. that his CEREAL has too much sugar in it, his juice isn’t healthy, but he must hurry to catch his BUS so he doesn’t have to WALK 3/4 mile to school! Then, they tell him which cartoons & programs are best for him, even though his parents find them sophomoric & redundantly foolish, and on and on and on…

    This is One small part of how the Fed is NOT even close to being a parent – It’s dictatorial, doesn’t give a rat’s pitooy about those supposedly under it’s care as long as they continue to vote or allow them to stay in “power”. 

    If my Small Business OR my family treated and controlled those in my care I’d be shut down, thrown into court, then jail, accused (rightly) of brainwashing & cruelty and stealing funds from both my employees AND my company! 

    Your analogy DOESN’T fit…  

  • http://www.facebook.com/mabrickey Mark Brickey

    I like Bachman… Where she’s lost me at least for this cycle, is her tenacity with the HPV inoculations & the retardation, even after Perry, others made it PLAIN that he was wrong & dropped the mandate. AND the retardation thing is a non-starter… there is no proof that has been properly vetted to back this assertion otherwise, Texas would be bankrupt from the lawsuits!
    She may be great with foreign policy, but she needs to stay with provable facts not innuendo if she’s gonna have any chance with MSM or the liberal onslaught. 

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