O’Reilly And Hume Laud Idea Of American Exceptionalism In Obama Libya Speech

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by Frances Martel | 10:21 pm, March 28th, 2011

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President Obama’s speech explaining America’s objectives in Libya strayed far from the partisan and, judging by the immediate response on the O’Reilly Factor, it may have won him some points on the right. Bill O’Reilly and Brit Hume assumed the task of giving the first reaction to his comments on Fox News, and while they were both somewhat disappointed in the lack of urgency, there was a mutual appreciation for his “emphasis on effectiveness” and American exceptionalism.

For O’Reilly, the most important meta-issue in the balance during the speech was the state of American exceptionalism in light of her third war in a decade. Having questioned that the President had, to a certain extent, permitted France to make the first move in the war rather than the pattern that emerged during the Bush administration of America acting preemptively, O’Reilly reiterated during his Talking Points Memo that “Gaddafi is a monster” and, as Americans, “we do not turn a blind eye to atrocities.” That said, he later told Hume that, while he believed Obama should have “just joined forces in the beginning” with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, his caution in approaching a new battle front was appreciated.

Hume, on his part, beleived the President “did about as good a job as he could do” on the speech, and praised the fact that Obama was “eager to tout an American leadership role in this and… in general.” He objected, however, to what he described as “the idea that the American image has been so stained [by the Iraq War conflict] that the less visible the United States’ presence is, the better. I don’t agree with that.” On this point, O’Reilly jumped to the President’s defense, noting that “poll after poll in country after country” showed that the Iraq War effort made America thoroughly unpopular, and while “it turned out to the benefit of the Iraqi people and the world… the image that people have is that we are bigfoot and we took over, and that’s what Obama wanted to avoid here.”

The segment via Fox News below:

America, barack obama, Bill O'Reilly, Brit Hume, fox news, Libya, Muammar Gaddafi, O'Reilly Factor

catfishjuggling

Let me be the first to type the word RINO. Only soon it will be typed non-ironically. I simply cannot wait.
Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz

catfishjuggling said:
Let me be the first to type the word RINO. Only soon it will be typed non-ironically. I simply cannot wait.

You remind me of puby. Always dead wrong.
catfishjuggling

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
You remind me of puby. Always dead wrong.

There is nothing I enjoy more than Ricky Perry’s hair.
im_lovin_it

catfishjuggling said:
Let me be the first to type the word RINO. Only soon it will be typed non-ironically. I simply cannot wait.

This thread should be especially humorous given the frothing going on about Maddow and O’Donnell’s praise of Obama’s speech. What will happen when these worlds collide?
George C

catfishjuggling said:
Let me be the first to type the word RINO. Only soon it will be typed non-ironically. I simply cannot wait.

You forgot the 3……2…….1 . You’re still the King O’ Countdown though .
murf

catfishjuggling said:
Let me be the first to type the word RINO. Only soon it will be typed non-ironically. I simply cannot wait.

That only works if said person claimed to be a republican , O’Reilly has not , is not.
catfishjuggling

im_lovin_it said:
This thread should be especially humorous given the frothing going on about Maddow and O’Donnell’s praise of Obama’s speech. What will happen when these worlds collide?

That really would be awesome. Either the rabid badgers on both teams would eat each other. Or, maybe they would realize that they have been in love the whole time.

Either way that would be some kinda good watch.
tatboy

You’ll NEVER see this level of balance on MSNBC… ever.
catfishjuggling

murf said:
That only works if said person claimed to be a republican , O’Reilly has not , is not.

Hume is.
im_lovin_it

catfishjuggling said:
That really would be awesome. Either the rabid badgers on both teams would eat each other. Or, maybe they would realize that they have been in love the whole time.

Either way that would be some kinda good watch.

You seem to enjoy the same gallows humor I do when observing and interacting with and the denizens of this place. All of this fighting and craziness, and for what? You know what’s REALLY important? Dancing with the Stars.

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/before-libya-white-house-must-negotiate-with-abc/?smid=tw-NYTimesAd&seid=auto
catfishjuggling

You show me where the founders said that they wanted stars to dance!!!! You can’t do it. It’s simply not there.
cjd ohio 1

tatboy said:
You’ll NEVER see this level of balance on MSNBC… ever.

that statement is true
cjd ohio 1

catfishjuggling said:
You show me where the founders said that they wanted stars to dance!!!! You can’t do it. It’s simply not there.

in the margin on the bill of rights
im_lovin_it

catfishjuggling said:
You show me where the founders said that they wanted stars to dance!!!! You can’t do it. It’s simply not there.

It’s a negative document and dancing is not prohibited. Everybody knows the founders worked tirelessly so that the stars could one day dance. Kevin Bacon is the embodiment of their vision.
Who is Salacious Crumb

tatboy said:
You’ll NEVER see this level of balance on MSNBC… ever.

I see you and raise with Morning Joe when it comes to the opinion shows on both networks.
catfishjuggling

im_lovin_it said:
It’s a negative document and dancing is not prohibited. Everybody knows the founders worked tirelessly so that the stars could one day dance. Kevin Bacon is the embodiment of their vision.

This comment completes me. Well played.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

Maybe BORing thinks he should sound just a trifle sane to balance out the two whales that flounder around him.
Maybe he’s gotten old enough to realize that knee-jerk rejection of ANYthing Obama does eventually makes you look foolish.
Maybe he watched some of the tapes of what Newt said on what day he said it, and knew it made Newt look like an @ss.
Maybe he got religion.
Maybe he got smart.
George C

im_lovin_it said:
Kevin Bacon is the embodiment of their vision

Ahhhhh the Footloose clause , well done .
Who is Salacious Crumb

catfishjuggling said:
You show me where the founders said that they wanted stars to dance!!!! You can’t do it. It’s simply not there.

im_lovin_it said:
It’s a negative document and dancing is not prohibited. Everybody knows the founders worked tirelessly so that the stars could one day dance. Kevin Bacon is the embodiment of their vision.

YUP.

See the Federalist papers authored by Bacon, or the six degree thereof.
huntingtonboy

American exceptionalism. Exceptionally unemployed, exceptionally behind most nations in education, exceptionally in debt, exceptionally challanged economically, exceptionally owned by China, exceptionally overstocked with hands guns and murders and the exceptional list just goes on and on doesn’t it.
catfishjuggling

Who is Salacious Crumb said:
YUP.

See the Federalist papers authored by Bacon, or the six degree thereof.

Great. Now I am hungry. Thanks.

Best Penn Jillette line ever: “Bacon is the candy of meats.”
im_lovin_it

huntingtonboy said:
American exceptionalism. Exceptionally unemployed, exceptionally behind most nations in education, exceptionally in debt, exceptionally challanged economically, exceptionally owned by China, exceptionally overstocked with hands guns and murders and the exceptional list just goes on and on doesn’t it.

AMERICA! F*CK YEAH!! COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERF*CKING DAAAYEEEAH!!

God Bless Matt Stone and Trey Parker
tatboy

im_lovin_it said:
AMERICA! F*CK YEAH!! COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERF*CKING DAAAYEEEAH!! God Bless Matt Stone and Trey Parker

SOUTH PARK RULZ!
BR

Anyone who says that O’Reilly is not fair just doesnt watch him
Who is Salacious Crumb

catfishjuggling said:
Great. Now I am hungry. Thanks.

Best Penn Jillette line ever: “Bacon is the candy of meats.”

Welcome.

“The buffet is free.”
Who is Salacious Crumb

tatboy said:
SOUTH PARK RULZ!

And yet it gets so little coverage nowadays. That’s a crime.
Lou Sarah

Just saying “American Exceptionalism” gets Hume and O’Reilly’s 4-inchers hard!!
Who is Salacious Crumb

BR said:
Anyone who says that O’Reilly is not fair just doesnt watch him

The dude has his biases, but he always brings on contrarian guests.
Who is Salacious Crumb

Lou Sarah said:
Just saying “American Exceptionalism” gets Hume and O’Reilly’s 4-inchers hard!!

So poetic. You must feel so proud that you typed that for the internet. I bet it got some inches out of you as well. What are 12, “Big” guy?
Gasket

Crazy when O’Reilly, Wolfowitz and the likes of the AEI supporting the Obama doctrine here. Haha…
tatboy

Gasket said:
Crazy when O’Reilly, Wolfowitz and the likes of the AEI supporting the Obama doctrine here. Haha…

Funny you support the Bush doctrine… HAHA… Lets invade more Muslim countries. ;)
Steve_27

What part of the Bush doctrine do you disagree with?
Steve_27

I find it highley entertaining that he had to refer to something he doesn’t believe in, American exceptionalism, to justify his move on Lybia.

This speech should have been giving when he decided to go in. (Maybe during the brackets? Definitely before the Rio trip)
We still dont know who we’re helping.
We cant afford it.
It’s impossible to make sense out of “We dont seek regime change” and “We want Quaddafi to step down.”

Other then this, I have no problem with an unvetted community organizer throwing around our military power.

And on a side note, Orielly; If it turned out to the “benefit of the Iraqi people and the world,” then how the f— could we also be bad? What annoying bs to hear.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

FACT CHECKING Obama’s speech.

WASHINGTON – There may be less than meets the eye to President Barack Obama’s statements Monday night that NATO is taking over from the United States in Libya and that U.S. action is limited to defending people under attack there by Muammar Qaddafi’s forces.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/28/politics/main20048134.shtml
Steve_27

Steve_27 said:
What part of the Bush doctrine do you disagree with?

Now who would give a thumbs down without an explanation? Seriously, it’s simply a question. Not an accusation, not an insult and not a threat. So what gives? What part of the Bush doctrine dont you like or agree with? Maybe the easiest question one could ever be asked.
THE REAL ROYAL KING

sarainitaly said:
FACT CHECKING Obama’s speech.

WASHINGTON – There may be less than meets the eye to President Barack Obama’s statements Monday night that NATO is taking over from the United States in Libya and that U.S. action is limited to defending people under attack there by Muammar Qaddafi’s forces.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/28/politics/main20048134.shtml

If the Eye-Ties, the largest recipients of Libyan oil from its former colony, could summon a bit courage and engage in the matter, perhaps we would be relieved of some of the burden. Some of your time and effort to bash our President and to fill cyberspace with volumes of your bleating, kvetching, moaning and whining might be better spent trying to get your president and your paisan to shoulder their share of the responsibility.
skyfet

You only find this Jokers agreeing with BO when he is launching an illegal war. Why are they for ways? why?
Steve_27

tatboy said:
Funny you support the Bush doctrine… HAHA… Lets invade more Muslim countries. ;)

My bad. I didn’t quote you so I cant blame you for not even noticing.

What part of the Bush doctrine do you dislike? Just asking.
Barack Must Go

Don’t get to excited fellas, Barack had his fingers and toes crossed when he made that statement. The cornerstone of the Obama administration, his personal crusade, is to tear down and destoy America’s reputation in the world, followed by the total destruction of America herself.
Davo

Steve_27 said:
What part of the Bush doctrine do you dislike? Just asking.

Just the part where Bush defends America. The other things where Bush expands the federal government and the national debt, they really agree with. But they can’t say so because…………well……………he’s Bush, and the Dim ones have been told to hate him.
http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Weaver/1373091411 David Weaver

Nations, like people, are not indispensable. Their greatness is dependent upon many factors, and wise are the leaders and citizens who recognize that.

Ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome . . . the Byzantine, Spanish, Napoleonic and British Empires . . . the Third Reich . . . what do they all have in common?

All thought they were “exceptional.” And none ever could contemplate a day where they were not the masters of the universe.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Hubble/100001340708758 caconservative

Obimbo may be able to defend his position in esoteric terms but, that does not give him the authority to involve us in a foreign military action! Even Bush went to the Congress and the UN for the authority to attack Iraq. This clown didn’t ask, he simply presumed that authority. This clown-president thinks a crown came with the job!
Impeach this idiot!!
Steve_27

Davo said:
Just the part where Bush defends America. The other things where Bush expands the federal government and the national debt, they really agree with. But they can’t say so because…………well……………he’s Bush, and the Dim ones have been told to hate him.

I was looking for libs with specificity to Iraq. But thank you kindly.
LarryB

George Dubya Obama marching us to war, proving once again that there the results are the same whether it’s a Republican or a Democrat in the White House. Seriously, other than ramming through a health care plan which our country really couldn’t afford, what has Obama done that Republicans don’t support?
He extended the unpatriotic Patriot Act. He has kept troops in Iraq. He has added troops and increased spending in Afghanistan. He has started another war in Libya. He has kept Guantanamo Bay up and running. He has kept up the war on marijuana. He helped block a real audit of the Fed. Which of those things wouldn’t Dubya have done?
X-3

Unfortunately, O’Reilly and Hume were doing this analysis on the fly and they hadn’t had time to analyze the magnificent and enlightened oration by the teleprompter in chief.
eingriff

Oh, give me a break, just another pretext for intervention by imperial powers in the company of their colonial lackeys.