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Rachel Maddow Seems Both Confused And Delighted By Tea Party Factions And Dissension

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Last night Rachel Maddow reported on the so-called “expulsion” of Mark Williams and the Tea Party Express from the larger “Tea Party Movement.” Williams was “booted” after he crafted what many thought to be inappropriate parody that played upon racial tropes and stereotypes. “How does one get kicked out of a movement?” Maddow asked, barely keeping her schadenfreude in check as she outlined the byzantine structure that is the Tea Party movement.

The Tea Party movement is an abstraction; an amorphous group of citizens who share the similar ideological frustration with what is seen as an out-of-touch, out-of-control, corrupt, and unfair government. While the Tea Party movement has expressed outrage with both the Democratic and Republican parties, its followers are, for the most part, considered right-of-center. Therefore the movement has been co-opted by a number political leaders and opinion media from the right. But there are many, many “sects” of this movement, which Maddow outlines below.

It is true that there are a number of business leaders, thought leaders, and plain old hucksters that are looking to profit off of this “movement,” many of whom Maddow outlines here. Later in the segment, she brings on Washington Post columnist (and MSNBC contributor) Ezra Klein, who questions just how effective the Tea Party movement has actually been. Klein points to Sharon Angle‘s nomination for Republican senate candidate, running against Harry Reid, as an example. Angle got the nomination largely due to Tea Party support, and while Reid was once thought to be a lame duck candidate sure to be voted out, he is now up in the polls.

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  • The Real Royal King

    Growing up in Texas, we were surrounded by Southern Baptists. As a percentage of our population, their numbers have fallen mightily in recent years, but back then, they loudly proclaimed their fierce independence, not being beholden to Rome or to dogma or canon law. Yet, they were constantly expelling people from their congregations. It always confused me, even as a young child. When I left for boarding school, I would explain this to my friends from the Northeast, and they couldn’t understand it either.

    We have a body, which proclaims it is grass roots, which has no organization structure, no requirements for admission, yet it expels someone? How can this be?

    And, how often will this happen? To go back to the Church example, the Baptists seemed to be denouncing and expelling constantly. In the formalized hierarchy of my Church, excommunication is so rare, it is seldom even discussed.

    I understand Ms. Maddow’s confusion. To expel someone is a rather clear indication that the Tea Party is not what it says it is.

  • atreyue

    What boarding school did you attend?

  • The Real Royal King

    atreyue said:
    What boarding school did you attend?

    I don’t like to divulge specific personal information on the internet. Let’s just say a religious school in the New York.

  • atreyue

    The Real Royal King said:
    I don’t like to divulge specific personal information on the internet. Let’s just say a religious school in the New York.

    Sorry, curious because I’m from New York City and attended St. Paul’s School in NH. It’s such a close community, as I’m sure you know.

  • atreyue

    excuse me, small community

  • MichelleF

    Colby, it appears you won’t be “reporting” on this so I thought I’d do it

    Consider me checked!!

    Busted: Dishonest Hacks at Think Progress Caught Manufacturing Another Fake Racist Tea Party
    THINK PROGRESS IS BUSTED AGAIN!
    The far left Soros-funded outfit does not just produce bogus films…

    They write bogus articles, too.

    The horrible far left hacks at Think Progress once again were caught lying about supposed racism in the tea party movement. On Monday they posted some random editorial – from early July – published in a New Hampshire paper – by some lone racist and try to link him to the tea party…. But if you read the whole editorial you see that “tea party” is not even mentioned in the racist editorial! The tea party is not linked to this racist in anyway.
    Think Progress just took an editorial written by some random racist and then they threw tea party on the title of their post. What horrible dishonest cranks.
    Here is the entire editorial from the Concord Monitor:
    As Think Progress reported, the New Hampshire racist was disowned as a candidate by the GOP who called him a “despicable racist” and a “fraud.” Murdough has no love lost for the GOP, complaining, “they’ve sold white people out.”
    Think Progress also admits that they don’t even know if Murdough is a tea partier. But, he did mention “tea party” in the comment’s section of the July article and therefore, according to these radical hacks at Think Progress, that proves that the tea party is racist.
    Got that? The tea party is racist because some white supremist mentioned their name. Using this same logic, Obama is Al-Qaeda because he was mentioned in a Zawahiri tape. Hillary Clinton is part of the Taliban because they mentioned her in a tape.
    This is insane and extremely dishonest. But, when you’ve got nothing and the unemployment rate is close to 10%, the record deficit is going over a trillion dollars, the country is broke and the president’s radical policies are unpopular across America, you make up lies to protect your radical associates.

    What a disgusting dishonest website.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/busted-filthy-dishonest-hacks-at-think-progress-caught-manufacturing-another-fake-racist-tea-party-story/

  • The Real Royal King

    Indeed, it is.

    My parents were working abroad. It seemed best to continue education in the US. At that time, most international flights were out of Idlewild/JFK. My reasons were largely practical. And, I was the great beneficiary of such an education. I often wonder what would happen today, when you can fly to Europe and thence onward from dozens of US cities.

  • The Real Royal King

    MichelleF said:
    Colby, it appears you won’t be “reporting” on this so I thought I’d do it

    Consider me checked!!

    Busted: Dishonest Hacks at Think Progress Caught Manufacturing Another Fake Racist Tea Party
    THINK PROGRESS IS BUSTED AGAIN!
    The far left Soros-funded outfit does not just produce bogus films…

    They write bogus articles, too.

    The horrible far left hacks at Think Progress once again were caught lying about supposed racism in the tea party movement. On Monday they posted some random editorial – from early July – published in a New Hampshire paper – by some lone racist and try to link him to the tea party…. But if you read the whole editorial you see that “tea party” is not even mentioned in the racist editorial! The tea party is not linked to this racist in anyway.
    Think Progress just took an editorial written by some random racist and then they threw tea party on the title of their post. What horrible dishonest cranks.
    Here is the entire editorial from the Concord Monitor:
    As Think Progress reported, the New Hampshire racist was disowned as a candidate by the GOP who called him a “despicable racist” and a “fraud.” Murdough has no love lost for the GOP, complaining, “they’ve sold white people out.”
    Think Progress also admits that they don’t even know if Murdough is a tea partier. But, he did mention “tea party” in the comment’s section of the July article and therefore, according to these radical hacks at Think Progress, that proves that the tea party is racist.
    Got that? The tea party is racist because some white supremist mentioned their name. Using this same logic, Obama is Al-Qaeda because he was mentioned in a Zawahiri tape. Hillary Clinton is part of the Taliban because they mentioned her in a tape.
    This is insane and extremely dishonest. But, when you’ve got nothing and the unemployment rate is close to 10%, the record deficit is going over a trillion dollars, the country is broke and the president’s radical policies are unpopular across America, you make up lies to protect your radical associates.

    What a disgusting dishonest website.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/busted-filthy-dishonest-hacks-at-think-progress-caught-manufacturing-another-fake-racist-tea-party-story/

    All Hail the Copy and Paste Queen! Or, should I say “hale,” as in Barbara. Perry Mason’s secretary.

    But wait. Isn’t this a television site? I don’t get the relevance of your post.

  • MichelleF

    Forgive me if I’m wrong Royal Race-Baiter, but this site covers ALL media, including online. Nice try though.

  • Azarkhan

    “Ezra Klein, who questions just how effective the Tea Party movement has actually been”

    Ezra Klein: leftist WaPo contributor, recruiter of Dave Weigel, and the founder of Journolist. Of course Rachel Maddow brought him in to discuss the Tea Party. For someone of Maddow’s ilk, Klein is what passes for an objective journalist.

  • The Real Royal King

    MichelleF said:
    Forgive me if I’m wrong Royal Race-Baiter, but this site covers ALL media, including online. Nice try though.

    Go to the to the top of the page. We are in the television link.

  • writer

    King, were you aware that Minister Farrakhan’s organization (you remember Farrakhan. The guy you can’t criticize because he isn’t ‘present’) practices strict segregation and forbids inter-racial dating? So how is it that you can criticize Southern Baptists, or anyone else for that matter, but when it comes to a black racist organization, you claim you don’t want to comment?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    Colby, it appears you won’t be “reporting” on this so I thought I’d do it

    Consider me checked!!

    Busted: Dishonest Hacks at Think Progress Caught Manufacturing Another Fake Racist Tea Party
    THINK PROGRESS IS BUSTED AGAIN!
    The far left Soros-funded outfit does not just produce bogus films…

    They write bogus articles, too.

    The horrible far left hacks at Think Progress once again were caught lying about supposed racism in the tea party movement. On Monday they posted some random editorial – from early July – published in a New Hampshire paper – by some lone racist and try to link him to the tea party…. But if you read the whole editorial you see that “tea party” is not even mentioned in the racist editorial! The tea party is not linked to this racist in anyway.
    Think Progress just took an editorial written by some random racist and then they threw tea party on the title of their post. What horrible dishonest cranks.
    Here is the entire editorial from the Concord Monitor:
    As Think Progress reported, the New Hampshire racist was disowned as a candidate by the GOP who called him a “despicable racist” and a “fraud.” Murdough has no love lost for the GOP, complaining, “they’ve sold white people out.”
    Think Progress also admits that they don’t even know if Murdough is a tea partier. But, he did mention “tea party” in the comment’s section of the July article and therefore, according to these radical hacks at Think Progress, that proves that the tea party is racist.
    Got that? The tea party is racist because some white supremist mentioned their name. Using this same logic, Obama is Al-Qaeda because he was mentioned in a Zawahiri tape. Hillary Clinton is part of the Taliban because they mentioned her in a tape.
    This is insane and extremely dishonest. But, when you’ve got nothing and the unemployment rate is close to 10%, the record deficit is going over a trillion dollars, the country is broke and the president’s radical policies are unpopular across America, you make up lies to protect your radical associates.

    What a disgusting dishonest website.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/busted-filthy-dishonest-hacks-at-think-progress-caught-manufacturing-another-fake-racist-tea-party-story/

    Back to defending the racism huh? Even when there is fight in the Tea Party over this right now. People in this movement are standing up to the racism and I applaud the ousting of Mark Williams and the Tea Party Federations choice to stand up against this crap. Michelle you need to join them

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King says:
    July 20, 2010 at 11:14 am

    But wait. Isn’t this a television site? I don’t get the relevance of your post.

    No, it’s a “media” site… and far less has made it on. At the very least, the “Online” category would be a good place for that story.

    The Real Royal King says:
    July 20, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Go to the to the top of the page. We are in the television link.

    Sometimes you have to break category if you want the “management” to notice. Their “tips” email is a joke.

  • writer

    So why can’t you lefties ever stand up against black racism? Al Sharpton has stirred up hatred that resulted in people getting killed. Silence from the left. Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, the black panthers, are all racist, and the left doesn’t say squat. Racism only counts if it’s coming from white people?

  • MichelleF

    Go to the to the top of the page. We are in the television link.

    What’s your point? Do you see an article about is under the online section. Your contant spinning gives me a headache, royal race-baiter.

  • Azarkhan

    “So why can’t you lefties ever stand up against black racism?” writer

    Because in order to have the right amount of servility and obsequiousness to blacks, white leftists have their spine removed.

  • bugspot1

    MichelleF, writer, Dave Noland – You all miss the point. What The Real Royal King should have said is this is comments on Rachel Maddow Seems Both Confused And Delighted By Tea Party Factions And Dissension.
    Instead we have PAGES of righty copy/pasting of how all lefties are HORRIBLE. Don’t you people ever get tired of being angry????

  • atreyue

    Azarkhan said:
    “So why can’t you lefties ever stand up against black racism?” writer

    Because in order to have the right amount of servility and obsequiousness to blacks, white leftists have their spine removed.

    No, because the democratic party needs to ensure that they keep the Black vote. The idea at the top is “Throw them a bone or 2. Who cares, since we’ve destroyed the Black community with our social programs and institutionalized their poverty?” It’s working like a charm and will continue to do so with the collusion of organizations like NAACP.

  • ImNotBlue

    bugspot1 says:
    July 20, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    Don’t you people ever get tired of being angry????

    Really? You think this is “angry?”

    Check out the “Beck says he might be going blind” article. Then talk to me about “anger” and disgusting comments.

  • writer

    bugspot, the King goes off on a rant about Southern Baptists, and when we call him on it, we’re being hateful? The King is consistently the most hateful person to post here.

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    bugspot, the King goes off on a rant about Southern Baptists, and when we call him on it, we’re being hateful? The King is consistently the most hateful person to post here.

    Dear, your slip is showing. A rant? Really? Describing an episode in an analogy is a rant? Confessing to being confused by what I saw is a rant? Where? Miss Priscilla’s Finishing School for Ladies of Distinction?

  • writer

    It’s sort of like when you constantly use the terms ‘bleating’, ‘whining’, and ‘moaning’ when describing others’ posts, King. And by the way, were there any Southern Baptists ‘present’ when you made your comments about them? You can’t comment on your Minister Farrakhan if he isn’t ‘present’, so how were you able to comment on Baptists? They standing there with you, were they?

  • The Real Royal King

    There are also Southern Baptists present. At every mall. Every political or social gathering. Every sports event. Every bar.

  • writer

    Are they right there with you now? Is Farrakhan with you now? Can you comment on him yet? Or is he still off limits? I know how you like to point out racism wherever you see it, and Farrakhan is definitely a racist. I’d think you’d be anxious to comment.

  • The Real Royal King

    You know how it goes? Last weekend I went huntin’. There were four of us. Bobby Ray came. He’s a Baptist. He bought a 5th.

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    Are they right there with you now? Is Farrakhan with you now? Can you comment on him yet? Or is he still off limits? I know how you like to point out racism wherever you see it, and Farrakhan is definitely a racist. I’d think you’d be anxious to comment.

    Sorry. I don’t know any Farrakhan jokes. He doesn’t seem all that funny to me. But then, I don’t obsess over him.

  • writer

    Didn’t ask for any jokes, King. But you’re kinda funny. You’re SO anxious to always point out white racism, but when a black person is racist, you become Marcel Marceau.

  • newzmaker

    I’m quite surprised that Maddow isn’t more empathetic, to the Tea Party Movement. The gay rights movement had just as many growing pains, in the beginning, and both political parties at one time, viewed gay rights activists, as nuisances to society. Only when a few rich and famous celeb gays came out of the closet, did the gay rights movement gain any traction. If not for those few rich and famous celebs coming out, the gay rights movement would still be in the back of the bus, so to speak. Maddow should practice being more tolerant of the Tea Party, just as American society has practiced being more tolerant of gays. Last, but not least, gay rights is nothing more than a talking point in the Dem party; much like global warning is a talking point. Basically, ‘just words’, all in the name of political expediency.

  • Pablo

    Maddow asked, barely keeping her schadenfreude in check as she outlined the byzantine structure that is the Tea Party movement.

    The Tea Party movement is an abstraction; an amorphous group of citizens who share the similar ideological frustration with what is seen as an out-of-touch, out-of-control, corrupt, and unfair government.

    Byzantine? Really?

  • Azarkhan

    “Maddow should practice being more tolerant of the Tea Party,”

    A Leftist practice tolerance? People who take their cue from Lenin don’t practice tolerance.

  • The Real Royal King

    Azarkhan said:
    People who take their cue from Lenin don’t practice tolerance.

    You people are sure obsessed with Hitler and Lenin.

  • jimw1016

    atreyue said:
    No, because the democratic party needs to ensure that they keep the Black vote. The idea at the top is “Throw them a bone or 2. Who cares, since we’ve destroyed the Black community with our social programs and institutionalized their poverty?” It’s working like a charm and will continue to do so with the collusion of organizations like NAACP.

    Good God, talk about being racist. Did you ever consider the black population actually have a memory and thinking process and their vote is exactly what it’s supposed to be? Vote=Choice. You all should try following their lead…”Life is choice…therefore make good ones!!

  • jimw1016

    newzmaker said:
    I’m quite surprised that Maddow isn’t more empathetic, to the Tea Party Movement. The gay rights movement had just as many growing pains, in the beginning, and both political parties at one time, viewed gay rights activists, as nuisances to society. Only when a few rich and famous celeb gays came out of the closet, did the gay rights movement gain any traction. If not for those few rich and famous celebs coming out, the gay rights movement would still be in the back of the bus, so to speak. Maddow should practice being more tolerant of the Tea Party, just as American society has practiced being more tolerant of gays. Last, but not least, gay rights is nothing more than a talking point in the Dem party; much like global warning is a talking point. Basically, ‘just words’, all in the name of political expediency.

    Which Tea Party might you be referring to?

  • jimw1016

    Pablo said:
    Byzantine? Really?

    Here’s some breakage for you:

    http://www.publicintegrity.org/investigations/broken_government/articles/entry/996/

  • jimw1016

    Azarkhan said:
    “Maddow should practice being more tolerant of the Tea Party,”

    A Leftist practice tolerance? People who take their cue from Lenin don’t practice tolerance.

    Show me some rightie tolerance. both sides are partisan sheepish fools, just following your leaders.

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    ImNotBlue said:
    bugspot1 says:
    July 20, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    Check out the “Beck says he might be going blind” article. Then talk to me about “anger” and disgusting comments.

    From nutso and the kool-aid guy wishing for everyone in RRK’s family to die. Yeah we know you righties have serious mental problems….

  • sponge bob

    jimw1016 says:

    ” Good God, talk about being racist. Did you ever consider the black population actually have a memory and thinking process and their vote is exactly what it’s supposed to be? Vote=Choice. You all should try following their lead…”Life is choice…therefore make good ones!! ”

    Well, if they used that memory and thinking process they would not be voting democratic ?

    How did the Ku Klux Klan re-emerge in the 20th century? For that, the Democratic Party is to blame.

    It was a racist Democrat President, Woodrow Wilson, who premiered Birth of a Nation in the White House. That racist movie was based on a racist book written by one of Wilson’s racist friends from college. In 1915, the movie spawned the modern-day Klan, with its burning crosses and white sheets.

    Inspired by the movie, some Georgia Democrats revived the Klan. Soon, the Ku Klux Klan again became a powerful force within the Democratic Party. The KKK so dominated the 1924 Democratic Convention that Republicans, speaking truth to power, called it the Klanbake.

    http://biggovernment.com/mzak/2010/07/16/the-ku-klux-klan-terrorist-wing-of-the-democratic-party/#more-145286

  • redleaf

    The following question is not specific to this item, but there’s a lot of activity on this page, so I thought I’d ask:
    Is there a website where a person can just get the news without any political slant or snark.

    You know, like, “I wonder what events transpired in America today?”

    Is there such an outlet? I’m curious because maybe I’ll find a new non-partisan website for the latest news. But also, as I’m called all sorts of classy names by the many morons who troll these pages and snark all day, I’ll get a sense of whether anybody here is sane.

  • The Real Royal King

    sponge bob said:
    jimw1016 says:

    ” Good God, talk about being racist. Did you ever consider the black population actually have a memory and thinking process and their vote is exactly what it’s supposed to be? Vote=Choice. You all should try following their lead…”Life is choice…therefore make good ones!! ”

    Well, if they used that memory and thinking process they would not be voting democratic ?

    How did the Ku Klux Klan re-emerge in the 20th century? For that, the Democratic Party is to blame.

    It was a racist Democrat President, Woodrow Wilson, who premiered Birth of a Nation in the White House. That racist movie was based on a racist book written by one of Wilson’s racist friends from college. In 1915, the movie spawned the modern-day Klan, with its burning crosses and white sheets.

    Inspired by the movie, some Georgia Democrats revived the Klan. Soon, the Ku Klux Klan again became a powerful force within the Democratic Party. The KKK so dominated the 1924 Democratic Convention that Republicans, speaking truth to power, called it the Klanbake.

    http://biggovernment.com/mzak/2010/07/16/the-ku-klux-klan-terrorist-wing-of-the-democratic-party/#more-145286

    But for Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Lyndon Baines Johnson, you might have had your wish. However, political parties are dynamic organisms. The Crackers left the Democrats and joined the Republicans in 1964. And, the rest is history.

  • The Real Royal King

    ImNotBlue said:
    The Real Royal King says:
    July 20, 2010 at 11:14 am

    But wait. Isn’t this a television site? I don’t get the relevance of your post.

    No, it’s a “media” site… and far less has made it on. At the very least, the “Online” category would be a good place for that story.

    The Real Royal King says:
    July 20, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Go to the to the top of the page. We are in the television link.

    Sometimes you have to break category if you want the “management” to notice. Their “tips” email is a joke.

    Ah! Moral relativism and situational ethics!

  • sponge bob

    The Real Royal King says:
    July 20, 2010 at 4:47

    Franklin Delano Roosevelt ? You mean this guy ?

    In the 1930s, a Democrat President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, appointed a Klansman, Senator Hugo Black (D-AL), to the U.S. Supreme Court. In the 1950s, the Klansmen against whom the civil rights movement struggled were Democrats. The notorious police commissioner Bull Connor, who attacked African-Americans with dogs and clubs and fire hoses, was both a Klansman and the Democratic Party’s National Committeeman for Alabama. Starting in the 1980s, the Democratic Party elevated a recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan, Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), to third-in-line for the presidency.

  • Azarkhan

    “And I think this threads the needle. If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.”

    Spencer Ackerman on Journolist

    If some Leftist fool expects us to believe a story about racism in the Tea Party, my reponse is:
    Are you out of your fucking mind?

  • The Real Royal King

    sponge bob said:
    The Real Royal King says:
    July 20, 2010 at 4:47

    Franklin Delano Roosevelt ? You mean this guy ?

    In the 1930s, a Democrat President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, appointed a Klansman, Senator Hugo Black (D-AL), to the U.S. Supreme Court. In the 1950s, the Klansmen against whom the civil rights movement struggled were Democrats. The notorious police commissioner Bull Connor, who attacked African-Americans with dogs and clubs and fire hoses, was both a Klansman and the Democratic Party’s National Committeeman for Alabama. Starting in the 1980s, the Democratic Party elevated a recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan, Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), to third-in-line for the presidency.

    You are missing the point, probably on purpose.The historical reality is that the shift of African-Americans from the Republican party to the Democratic began in the 1930′s. That shift was completed in 1964. Thereupon, began the shift of Crackers from the Democratic party to the Republican. You can bleat, moan and whine about it until Catholics stop naming their daughters “Mary,” but that is the way it is.

  • Azarkhan

    “And I think this threads the needle. If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.” Spencer Ackerman on Journolist

    Just can’t wait for Mr. Ezra “Journolist” Klein’s next appearance on the Rachel Maddow show. I’m sure she’ll want to grill Ezra on what his response was to the above attempt at character assassination.

  • felixw

    Rachel, if you want to take on the tea party, try defending your anti-tea-party agenda of bloated government, deficit spending, and passing trillion dollar bills without reading them. If you can’t defend those things — and who can, huh? — you should stop trying to score meaningless points against the folks who are standing up for government accountability and fiscal responsibility.

  • sponge bob

    ” You are missing the point, probably on purpose”

    The point was ” memory and thinking process “.

    And 1964 ? Oh yes, the year a democrat, Robert Byrd filerbusted the Civil Rights Act.

  • jrcmi

    Byrd renounced, and apologized for, his Klan association after he “filerbusted” the CRA.

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