Grasping. Maddow in search of a story when again, there is none.

Well these are real people with jobs and kids. It’s a balance. They don’t get paid for this stuff.

They don’t get paid for this stuff.

Unlike the lefty union thugs who do.

Memo to Rachel: Unlike leftwing protesters, tea party attendees are often small business owners or self-employed, and have families and other important responsibilities in their communities and churches. So they actually need to fit their political advocacy into busy schedules. Of course, Rachel Maddow doesn’t have much contact with those kinds of folks, so I can understand her not understanding this…..

timzank said:
Grasping. Maddow in search of a story when again, there is none.

I think that was her point.

felixw said:
Memo to Rachel: Unlike leftwing protesters, tea party attendees are often small business owners or self-employed, and have families and other important responsibilities in their communities and churches. So they actually need to fit their political advocacy into busy schedules. Of course, Rachel Maddow doesn’t have much contact with those kinds of folks, so I can understand her not understanding this…..

Wasn’t that also the case several months ago when the tea party was hot? Maddow’s point is that the initial enthusiasm is waning and one of the reasons is that tea party views alienate the regular person.

“It has since been rescheduled for October.”

Thank God.

They must have missed the fact that the majority of people active in Tea Parties are GRANDPARENTS! My grandmother couldn’t be in the heat of Las Vegas in July. The organizers should have thought about that during planning, but I’m glad they changed it.

The people that attend tea party events are (by and large) employed with real occupations and have family to care for. The SEIU and other left wing riot inciters are employed by the SEIU. They get PAID to protest, their kids are in a subsidized daycare and they are transported for free to the site of the next riot rally.

Big difference between paid thugs and slackers sucking up free money and real, nonviolent, coherent, non-racebaiting, caring normal citizens.

These little chickenshit teabaggers will talk about talk tough about taking back their country through second amendment solutions, but they won’t inconvenience themselves because of a little dry heat. I spit on these people and their fake outrage.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
These little chickenshit teabaggers will talk about talk tough about taking back their country through second amendment solutions, but they won’t inconvenience themselves because of a little dry heat. I spit on these people and their fake outrage.

They aren’t PAID protesters like the dems. just regular people sick and tired of carrying the weight for slackers like you.

I don’t understand how you guys are claiming the teaparties are employed people, when most of them are on Social securities. You need to get your facts right, they are older Americans (most of them). To tell you the truth I don’t know what they are complaining about, but it’s usual for older people to accept change. The odd thing about it is that, these folks relies on the Govt. for their pensions and health benefits, if the Govt. should leave them to themselves, I don’t think they’d appreciate it.

valkyrie101 says:
“Wasn’t that also the case several months ago when the tea party was hot? Maddow’s point is that the initial enthusiasm is waning and one of the reasons is that tea party views alienate the regular person.”

Yeah…urging the government to be fiscally responsible alienates people. The only people that alienates are politicians, of both sides.

Wow “Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers” way to raise the bar on stimulating the conversation.

KamFet, it ain’t exactly rocket science, they are (as I mentioned above) tired of paying the way for all the frickin slackers like you see commenting here.

@timzank
But how can they be paying for the ‘slackers’ if they are not earning themselves, they are dependent on the Gov.t Social security, Medicare, on and on. Maybe we should listen to Bachman and co and eradicate this programs, and let’s see who it would affect.

[Conservatives] came out against the Civil Rights Act,”

Wrong! That was the racists Dems!

Liberty Banned said:
valkyrie101 says:“Wasn’t that also the case several months ago when the tea party was hot? Maddow’s point is that the initial enthusiasm is waning and one of the reasons is that tea party views alienate the regular person.” Yeah…urging the government to be fiscally responsible alienates people. The only people that alienates are politicians, of both sides. Wow “Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers” way to raise the bar on stimulating the conversation.

No, Liberty, Maddow specifically said this:
“Sarah Palin quit as Alaska governor to cash in and become a full-time celebrity…John McCain abandoned almost all of his long-held, notable, policy positions because of a primary challenge from a talk show host…[Conservatives] came out against the Civil Rights Act, they came out against Social Security, they came out against soccer, they came out against Thurgood Marshall…it has been a spectacular year and a half of Conservative politics in this country.”

Have those things alienated people from embracing the tea party conservatives? Yes. Are there still enough tea party conservatives to win elections? Remains to be seen. Certainly they can elect people in some jurisdictions,but unlikely to elect a president or take control of the legislature because if they had that kind of support they would have defeated Barach Hussein Obama.

Kam Fet, here is a random photo of a tea party. Can you please substantiate your claim that most of these folks are on social security? Do people now qualify for social security at age 35?

http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/news_impact/2009/04/large_tea-party.jpg

Rachel and Olbermann have selective perception. If they criticize Obama, it’s valid. If anyone else criticizes him, it’s not valid and the people doing it must be demonized.

@felixw
That picture doesn’t say their age nor represent fact. It’s clear from the polls that the average tea party member is 45+, so please stop with the fuzzy maths.

Moderate said:
Moderate says:
July 1, 2010 at 11:20 am Moderate(Quote)
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“It has since been rescheduled for October.”
Thank God.

Wonder what the excuse will be in October – but then, the costumes will be interesting.

Rachel Maddow will be seen crying in November. Talk about shock and awe.

ladyruth54 said:
Rachel Maddow will be seen crying in November. Talk about shock and awe.

From what?

I don’t understand how you guys are claiming the teaparties are employed people, when most of them are on Social securities.

Kam, you say the average tea-partier is 45 AND living on Soc Sec. I’m sorry, but that doesn’t add up.

MichelleF said:
Kam, you say the average tea-partier is 45 AND living on Soc Sec. I’m sorry, but that doesn’t add up.

I was thinking the same thing.

45+ is the Minimum age not average.

Via Gallup:

In several other respects, however — their age, educational background, employment status, and race — Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large.

18-29 – TP – 16%, All US adults – 17%
30-49 – TP 34%, All US adults – 36%
50-64 – TP 29%, All US adults – 27%
65+ – TP 21%, All US adults – 20%

Sorry Kam, I’m not sure where you got your date, but it’s wrong.

According to your own data if you can read, it states it there 27% more than a quarter are 50-64
65+ are 21% are tea partiers
This is pretty a senior group. And if you add 45+ in the gallup poll, they make three quarter of the group, and those on Social securities and Medicare are the majority.

30. Do you consider yourself part of the Tea party movement or not?

ANNUAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME.
AGE IN YRS…….
Men Wom 18-34 35-54 55+
Yes 13% 14% 10% 13% 16%

quinnipiac

Kam, According to the data I posted, that would mean that roughly 50% are below the age of 50 and the other 50% are above. And only 21% of those are above 65%, which would be SS age. You stated the MOST were on SS, and you are flat wrong.

Ah, Kam Fet, so social security is now available at age 45? God bless the Democrats for these new entitlements!!!

I think we will find out how significant the Tea Part is this November

What about her president who never scheduled trips to the Gulf when the leak started just so he could play golf.

felixw said:
Ah, Kam Fet, so social security is now available at age 45? God bless the Democrats for these new entitlements!!!

Well yes, the Republican conservatives are pushing for 70 as the social security beginning, while they celebrate the exportation of U.S. jobs to other countries.

Glynnis: Thank you so much for this article.

It is so easy to catch Rachel in her lies, and you point them out by quoting her here.

Thanks.

Rachel, like the rest of the lib lefties on MSNBC, is caught yet again telling a tale, lying through her teeth. Good catch Glynnis.

valkyrie101 says:

Well yes, the Republican conservatives are pushing for 70 as the social security beginning, while they celebrate the exportation of U.S. jobs to other countries.”

Sorry, child, the Dems have controlled Congress since 2007 and BHO has been in for 16 months. If jobs are leaving that’s because of the Dems.

On and speaking of jobs, remember his big whooper from VP Bite Me?

Biden Predicts 100K-200K Jobs Next Month

Eric Kleefeld | April 23, 2010, 6:19PM

“Vice President Biden predicted today that the economy will add between 100,000-200,000 jobs next month, and between 250,000-500,000 jobs per month in time thereafter.

Biden made his comments while campaigning for Mark Critz, the Democratic nominee in the May 18 special election for the House seat in Pennsylvania formerly held by the late Democratic Rep. John Murtha. “All in all we’re going to be creating somewhere between 100 and 200,000 jobs next month, I predict,” Biden said, according to the pool report from the Pittsburg Tribune-Review.

Biden added that he’s “got in trouble” for a previous job growth prediction in March.

“Even some in the White House said, ‘hey, don’t get ahead of yourself,’” said Biden. “Well I’m here to tell you some time in the next couple of months we’re going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month. Because I’m telling you something, folks. We caught a lot of bad breaks on the way down. We’re going to catch a few good breaks because of good planning on the way up.”

And VP Bite Me last week said:

June 25, 2010 5:52 PM

Biden: We Can’t Recover All the Jobs Lost

Vice President Joe Biden gave a stark assessment of the economy today, telling an audience of supporters, “there’s no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession.”

And least we not forget this:

Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
By Julia A. Seymour
Business & Media Institute
1/8/2010 11:03:00 AM

Unemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)

July 1, 2010
WASHINGTON (AP) — The economic rebound is stalling.

A raft of weak new reports Thursday provided the strongest evidence yet that the recovery is slowing and added to concerns that the nation could be on its way back into recession.

valk, you were saying something about lost jobs?

Oh, and this valk:

Pending home sales plunge record 30 percent
On Thursday July 1, 2010, 10:18 am EDT

By Corbett B. Daly

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Contracts for pending sales of previously owned homes plunged a record 30 percent in May, far more than expected, after a popular tax credit expired at the end of the prior month, a survey from the National Association of Realtors showed on Thursday.

You must be so proud of BHO valk!

writer said:
Rachel and Olbermann have selective perception. If they criticize Obama, it’s valid. If anyone else criticizes him, it’s not valid and the people doing it must be demonized.

That is the way it is with ALL democrats!

mikepower said:
What about her president who never scheduled trips to the Gulf when the leak started just so he could play golf.

Nor did he make it to Tenn. when they needed him!!

@felixw
I look at the crowd, and they were ask what they are on, and some are clearly on SS, and MC and yet wanting their country back.
@Mitchell
Its definitely not 50-50, the older folks are much more, it more 70-30%.

Anyway, in the end the Tea partiers have no solid foundation and they are waning.

The Tea Party wasa non-event sponsored by Rupert Murdoch otherwise known as Joseph Goebbels. For sure there are a lot of angry people out there and the Tea Party was an attempt by Rupert Fox to channel this energy for stupid , nefarious purposes. Hopefully,there’s a truly democratic populist movement building up in this country where the anger many of us have will go in a positive, progressive direction, just as it did 1oo years ago with Teddy Roosevelt, Upton Sinclair, and the Farmer/Labor coalitions which swept the upper midwest and brought about a lot of progressive reform. How on earth could the Tea Partiers build a movement against the superduper corporations and bad government we had under Bush when they are financed by same idiotic wealthy people and the more backward corporations that backed Bush. It really isn’t surprising that the Tea Party has dissipated itself and is already a spent force.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers says:
July 1, 2010 at 11:33 am

I spit on these people and their fake outrage.

Stay class, Pander.

Kam Fet says:
July 1, 2010 at 11:50 am

Excellent talking point. Remember folks, the tea party people are all of the following at the same time:

Very old
Astroturf young people
Poor
Wealthy
Uneducated
Elitist
Dumb blue collar workers
Evil big business CEOs
Unemployed
Racists
Minorities who don’t know what’s good for them
Etc.

Sure there are a lot of contradictions on that list… but that’s the beauty of the talking point. Today’s unfounded accusation is forgotten for tomorrows!

Kam Fet says:
July 1, 2010 at 6:43 pm

Folks, I think it’s time to let it go. When Kam’s grammar goes, you know he/she is really losing it. The facts don’t support what he/she keeps saying, so instead of saying “Gee, I guess I was wrong,” he/she is just going to keep saying them over and over again.

You’ve proven your case, and sent Kam for a loop. Well done.

Alan Leventhal says:
July 1, 2010 at 7:39 pm

Blah blah blah -Nazi- blah blah blah -FOX- blah blah blah -Bush- blah blah blah -idiots- blah blah blah

There, a summary. Moving on.

Valkerie101 writes:

“Well yes, the Republican conservatives are pushing for 70 as the social security beginning, while they celebrate the exportation of U.S. jobs to other countries.”

That’s because they aren’t critical thinkers. They will blindly cheer for whatever they believe “their side” says to cheer for.

–Cobra

Cobra says:
July 1, 2010 at 11:35 pm

Or… they believe in what’s right, not what will benefit themselves the most.

Funny how some expect everyone else to be selfish. I guess that’s just not the case.

Te tea parties have no foundation, they are phonies, I didn’t see them when W. passed a Medicaid bill he didn’t pay for. Fights wars that has ruined the country and still sulking it up, turned a surplus into a trillion dollar deficit, etc., on and on. We didn’t see them, now you are telling me they’ve just woken up. Nah na na na na, that’s why the group is not growing, they are just another branch of the GOP. Its not growing, just dwindling.

Kam Fet, get your fact straight. There was a government surplus when the Republicans controlled the Congress under Newt Gingrich. When the Democrats have controlled the Congressional budgeting process, they have spent money like drunken sailors.

Here are the real numbers. And these are before taking into account the unprecedented deficit spending of the Obama administration:

http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/bowyer030319.gif

Kam Fet says:
July 2, 2010 at 10:55 am

Do you say the same things about the liberal interest groups who were always complaining (anti-war, against the Patriot Act, FISA laws, etc.), who now have “rethought” the issue, and are okay with it now that Obama is in charge? Hmm?

“Do you say the same things about the liberal interest groups who were always complaining (anti-war, against the Patriot Act, FISA laws, etc.), who now have “rethought” the issue”

WHICH “liberal interest groups”? The same ones that are pressuring Obama to get out of Afghanistan (and are thus STILL anti-war)? MoveOn.org hasn’t dropped its opposition to the Patriot Act or FISA, to my knowledge.

Typical right-wing tactic: create straw men, then knock ‘em down. It kills me when everybody makes these sweeping, vague allegations.

Then again, honesty was never your strength, was it?

I haven’t seen anything here to disprove Maddow’s contentions.

Oh, do Dem protesters and volunteers get paid for their services? My, I’ve been to all sorts of events and volunteered to do lit drops, phone calls, etc. Where is this gravy train for liberals I keep hearing about? It doesn’t show up on DFA.com, MoveOn.org, or even Monster.com.

The only time I ever got paid was when I was working in a non-partisan race for a judgeship. I’ve never been paid or bussed for free anywhere for a partisan or liberal cause. I work an actual DAY JOB, too, and my Dem compatriots do, too. That’s why we can’t drop everything to do ‘rapid response’ actions in person. We’re not even rich enough to own private businesses!

Meanwhile, our state GOP pays people to do lit drops and phone calls. When the press interviewed the Tea Partiers who came to support Jim Bunning, they learned that THEY weren’t from the area, but were, in fact, bussed in.