Rachel Maddow’s Anger At U.S. Senate: ‘Game Over’ For Support From Obama Base?

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by Colby Hall | 10:22 am, December 17th, 2010

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Last night the U.S. Senate voted on a bill that will extend the current Tax Cuts first put into place by President Bush after Senator Harry Reid appeared to capitulate to the threat of a Republican filibuster. This appeared to frustrate, if not anger MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow last night, and not only because it messed up the rundown of her show. It understandably irked the self-described progressive because it was just another example of, as she put it, “this phenom of passing bills in the house only to see it die in the Senate.”

Maddow ran trough a litany of examples where House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was successful in moving legislation consistent with both Obama’s and the progressive agenda forward through the House, only to see it die in the U.S. Senate. Then Maddow made very clear the stakes put forth by Senator Reid’s consistent surrender to the GOP:

With the endless obstructions and delay tactics. The margins that Democrats have over Republicans has been equal. Things have died in the Senate, not because Democrats didn’t have the votes. They had the votes. The senate broke. Without President Obama recognizing that is the U.S. Senate and acknowledging it is a broken institution that may be should be fixed, it’s sort of game over in terms of the rest of his agenda. It’s therefore sort of game over for his support from his base. Especially with a whole slew of Republicans on their way to Washington in January.

Maddow’s statement should not be viewed as a threat, but rather an understandable effect caused by the impotent combination of a weak Senate Majority leader Reid, and a President so averse to confrontation within his own party that he’s unwilling to recognize how the U.S. Senate is the weakest of all links. Therefore, speaking for a progressive base that is continuing to become more disillusioned with this administration, it completely stands to reason that Maddow and her audience would begin to look elsewhere for effective leadership.

Watch the clip from MSNBC below:

Bush Tax Cuts, Harry Reid, Rachel Maddow

skyfet

They are all in it for themselves and the Lobbyists. To hell with the ordinary people. They only need the people when they are seeking re-elections, after that the people are ignored in favour of the Lobbyists.
Atticus Draco

“Rachel Maddow’s Anger At U.S. Senate Spells ‘Game Over’ For Support From Obama’s Base?”

LMAO!
CHIT!
I WISH

uhmm,, the answer would be a big fat NO!
The Lantern of Truth

KING appears . Now this a woman . Magic time , people . Her makeup is so collant , yet minimes . She needs a simple , yet elegante’ redingote , and would thus be perfection . My review is termine’ .

The Gone Early Governor is so icke’ !
Atticus Draco

‘
The base you dont wanna mess with,, is the conservative base
WE KEEP OR THREATS
WHEN WE SAY ‘NO SUPPORT’,, WE MEAN IT!
TangledThorns

The base is smaller than she thinks, like 17% last I checked that call themselves liberal. Maddow and her hipster friends are learning that Bush actually did make a better president than Obama.
More Liberty

“It understandably irked the self-described progressive because it was just another example of, as she put it, “this phenom of passing bills in the house only to see it die in the Senate.””

That whole pesky checks and balances thing really sucks huh Maddow.
Atticus Draco

TangledThorns said:
The base is smaller than she thinks, like 17% last I checked that call themselves liberal. Maddow and her hipster friends are learning that Bush actually did make a better president than Obama.

lol,, slowly but surely!!
that’s what we are getting really,,, the extension of BUSH,,
lol

10 years of BUSH,, lol
soon to be 12
Atticus Draco

More Liberty said:
That whole pesky checks and balances thing really sucks huh Maddow.

lol,, true dat!
good point
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Jack Burns

It completely stands to reason that Maddow and her audience would begin to look elsewhere for effective leadership.

Uh Oh doesn’t look to good for Obama in 2012. So who’s it going to be? Should have elected Hillary when they had the chance. Now she wants to bow out of public service. Could have had Bill for another 8 years going up to the podium, for the wife either directly or indirectly…
Seeing 2012 From My Window

Tangled Thorns,
Since the libs are going to go insane with rage over your comment, I thought I’d help you by backing it up:

– Despite voters feelings toward Obama personally, 56% say he does not deserve to be reelected, while 38% say he does deserve to be reelected President.

– 43% say that Barack Obama has been a better president than George W. Bush, while 48% say Bush was a better president than Obama has been.

http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/10/28/shock-poll-americans-think-bush-doing-a-better-job-than-obama-and-more/
Atticus Draco

Jack Burns said:
Uh Oh doesn’t look to good for Obama in 2012. So who’s it going to be? Should have elected Hillary when they had the chance. Now she wants to bow out of public service. Could have had Bill for another 8 years going up to the podium, for the wife either directly or indirectly…

is that a legitimate conversion among the left that they regret NOT choosing Hillary?
Harry Flashman

This is an interesting statement on her part:

” Without President Obama recognizing that is the U.S. Senate and acknowledging it is a broken institution that may be should be fixed….”

Take a good klook. THAT is a glimpse into the far left thought process. Fixed? That’s liberal speak for “taken over”.

The far left is dangerous to this republic. The 2010 election was perhaps the most timely in history and headed them off at the pass.
BatBoy

Oh well..”.S**T Happens!”

Rachel, Welcome to our world…we have been going thru this for almost 2 years with this Administration.
Just4thefax

Fact: The Tea Party in 2012 will again trump the slackers! Yes the slackers! That’s a fact! Madcow is just mad and that she is one of those slackers and maybe that explains the look!
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Jack Burns

I’m sure it could be…

If they wanted a leader they should have chosen Hillary. She has a fairly good history of getting things done. Either directly or through Bill. Instead they voted for a complete unknown who is only know as a community organizer. Not a leader. Now Maddow is pissed because Obama lacks any leadership skills??? They have no one to blame but themselves (the media) they were fawning all over Obama during the election. So they got what they wanted. Now the’re sorry after seeing he is weak when it come to actually administrating or leading. Next time the Media needs to do some real investigative work. Instead of tabloid knee jerk journalism.
dhg

Rachel I’m sorry to tell you this but the US Government was not designed to be run by one party,ideology or agenda.

I know compromise and bi partisanship is tough to swallow.I know that not having it all your way or no way is unacceptable to you.I know that you perceive any sort of effort to craft anything as a compromise as weakness.

But you are not the American people nor do you speak for them or stand in for them.In fact you represent a shrinking minority of Americans and you,like others of your ilk,seem to have completely missed the messages sent by Americans in the last election cycle.

You may think you need to look elsewhere for leadership,for you,but Americans actually are happy with where leadership has begun to head.A large majority of Americans approve of the bill you condemn and cry over.They will probably vote to re-elect the man you seem to seek to replace because of moves like this one.

You,your fellow foolish Olbermann and Dead Ed do not speak for this country,Your tired failed try at one party governing failed miserably.Get over it.
Alz

More Liberty said:
That whole pesky checks and balances thing really sucks huh Maddow.

To Modern Liberals/Progressives, rules are for the small people. Since these liberals feel that their goals are so noble, so pure and that they only have what’s best for people in mind, they think that they shouldn’t have to follow the rules.

To the liberal, the rules themselves were put into place using impure systems (not liberalism) so they can’t possibly be right in the first place.
Moderate

“‘Game Over’ For Support From Obama Base?”

Congress has learned that support from Obama’s Base does not get you reelected.
timzank

Hilarious! You (Maddow) and 20% of the country voted for this guy because you honestly wanted a more European, socialist style country filled with no wars, no military, and tons of free shit for everybody. You really believed he could socialize the system. What you didn’t take into consideration was that the other 37% that voted for him would one day wake up and realize they did it to be cool, a part of history, and to prove to their neighbors they aren’t racist and he is really about as equipped to be President as Jimmy Carter was.

History always repeats itself, and this is Carter part deaux, so buckle up progressives, you’re in for another long long ride in the back seat.
Pablo

Therefore, speaking for a progressive base that is continuing to become more disillusioned with this administration, it completely stands to reason that Maddow and her audience would begin to look elsewhere for effective leadership.

I hear Venezuela is nice this time of year.
Atticus Draco

Pablo said:
I hear Venezuela is nice this time of year.

LOL
Yeah,, they’ll fit right in
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

Atticus Draco said:
LOL
Yeah,, they’ll fit right in

Yeah it is, but for all the teabaggers who hate government, Somalia hasn’t had a functioning government for 23 years why don’t you mouthbreathing, sign carriers go get lost there.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

Jonathan Scott said:
Yeah it is, but for all the teabaggers who hate government, Somalia hasn’t had a functioning government for 23 years why don’t you mouthbreathing, sign carriers go get lost there.

I would suggest exercising your 2nd Amendment when you arrive, you will be big overweight targets.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

Jonathan Scott said:
I would suggest exercising your 2nd Amendment when you arrive, you will be big overweight targets.

and very white.
violet88880

But you are not the American people nor do you speak for them or stand in for them.In fact you represent a shrinking minority of Americans and you,like others of your ilk,seem to have completely missed the messages sent by Americans in the last election cycle.

dhg said:

It is understandable that you may think we are a minority. The very people that voted this past election were upset because of unemployment (which the tax breaks were SUPPOSED to create jobs), bailouts (that the rich bankers and insiders took full advantage of) that did not include middle americans. (Don’t bother telling me that bailing out these folks saved jobs…I can read the stats on these companies downsizing just like you). The economy was the issue…..and where were all the jobs that the tax cuts were supposed to create??? Overseas?? Give me a break!

I am an independent voter. I happen to share Rachel’s outrage. If you don’t…well, then you are a hypocrite or worse…part of the problem. Tell me how you rationalize the denial of 9/11 health coverage for the first responders when the Republicans drag out that tragedy ever chance they get. Some of the Senators who voted it down…had sound bytes that previously praised and extolled the responders and that they should be covered. That is not flip flop….that is game play at it’s worst.

So, that other 37% who voted for Obama (but really against Bush)..now support the repubs that are 100% pushing the Bush tax cuts, and his programs? Let’s get a list of the Senators and take away their taxpayer funded top health care, and then do as the Republican party has done…..wait two years and then REMEMBER…no extension for unemployment, no jobs, no health coverage, NO RESPECT for middle america…and vote them out!

Dems…get a backbone!
Seeing 2012 From My Window

Jonathan, you’re showing your ignorance. The tea-partiers don’t hate gov’t, they just want it limited and not interfering in every aspect of their lives. You libs seem to need someone to dictate your every move, but conservatives don’t.
Atticus Draco

Jonathan Scott said:
Yeah it is, but for all the teabaggers who hate government

We dont HATE government,,
we just wanna tame the MoFo,,
THEY WORK FOR US,, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!
DID YA SEE ‘EM WORKIN’ FOR US LAST NIGHT?!?
lol

THAT’S TEA PARTY STRONG
AND YOU’RE F’n WELCOME!!!!
Linda

I met a fairy today that would grant me one wish.

“I want to live forever,” I said.

“Sorry” said the fairy, “I’m not allowed to grant wishes like that!”

“Fine,” I said, “I want to die after the Republican politicians get their heads out of their asses and start telling the truth!”

“You crafty bastard,” said the fairy.
violet88880

Quotes reversed:

dhg says:’But you are not the American people nor do you speak for them or stand in for them.In fact you represent a shrinking minority of Americans and you,like others of your ilk,seem to have completely missed the messages sent by Americans in the last election cycle.”
violet88880

see above
timzank

Jonathan Scott said:
Yeah it is, but for all the teabaggers who hate government, Somalia hasn’t had a functioning government for 23 years why don’t you mouthbreathing, sign carriers go get lost there.

I think we’ll be happy staying right here in the land of the free and the home of the brave, you marxist morons can either be happy being a minority here or head on to Cuba, Venezuela, or some other shit hole that thrives on everyone being poor except the government leaders.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

Boo-hoo! We can’t pass our Socialist policies so that means the Senate is broken!!!

I love how Mediaite acts like this broad is even remotely relevant. Nobody has, does, or ever will care about Rachel Maddow.
Linda

violet88880 said:
But you are not the American people nor do you speak for them or stand in for them.In fact you represent a shrinking minority of Americans and you,like others of your ilk,seem to have completely missed the messages sent by Americans in the last election cycle.

I agree with you here” The tea-partiers don’t hate gov’t” but most of them don’t know where to point their anger and are misinformed. There angry and don’t know who caused the problems. They lack the information needed to make an intelligent decision. Most watch Fox. This induces the lack of correct information and anger
trica

Maddow wish she had such influence!!!!
timzank

Linda said:
I agree with you here” The tea-partiers don’t hate gov’t” but most of them don’t know where to point their anger and are misinformed. There angry and don’t know who caused the problems. They lack the information needed to make an intelligent decision. Most watch Fox. This induces the lack of correct information and anger

How on Earth do you have the gall to claim “they lack the information etc”??? You don’t have to watch Fox News to understand our government is controlling every aspect of our lives. From no happy meal zones to grandma’s getting felt up to 9.8% unemployment, to 47% of households NOT paying federal taxes but getting money back to health insurance skyrocketing to bills that must be passed so we know what’s in them, etc etc etc….Fox news has what, 5 million viewers out of 320 million citizens? Admit it, it ain’t Fox, it’s the fucking government!!!!
BlackWidow

You nall will just LOVE this story.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html#comments
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Linda said:
I met a fairy today

I believe that part of your comment. How is Barney Frank?
Seeing 2012 From My Window

Linda, it would appear that you, Iris, and Ted are sharing a brain. I’m not even sure how you function in society based on the things you write.
Linda

timzank said:
How on Earth do you have the gall to claim “they lack the information etc”??? You don’t have to watch Fox News to understand our government is controlling every aspect of our lives. From no happy meal zones to grandma’s getting felt up to 9.8% unemployment, to 47% of households NOT paying federal taxes but getting money back to health insurance skyrocketing to bills that must be passed so we know what’s in them, etc etc etc….Fox news has what, 5 million viewers out of 320 million citizens? Admit it, it ain’t Fox, it’s the fucking government!!!!

It is easy :) It is the truth. Studies have been done on “Fox Viewers” and found then the least informed and their information they did have was incorrect. After bloging on this site, I would have to completely agree!

Fox is a propaganda machine for the “Neo-Cons” and those in the know, knows it is a FACT!
Linda

gordonbloyershow said:
I believe that part of your comment. How is Barney Frank?

Stupid bigot!
Linda

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Linda, it would appear that you, Iris, and Ted are sharing a brain. I’m not even sure how you function in society based on the things you write.

Thats funny…. I was thinking the same thing about you and your Rah-Rah boys!
Atticus Draco

BlackWidow said:
You nall will just LOVE this story.

YEP,, A GREAT FICTIONAL STORY

I’m guessing,, ‘coz i didnt read that chit,,
but,, it’s easy to assume THAT ‘COZ,, IT’S ON HUFFINGTON!
timzank

Linda said:
It is easy :) It is the truth. Studies have been done on “Fox Viewers” and found then the least informed and their information they did have was incorrect. After bloging on this site, I would have to completely agree! Fox is a propaganda machine for the “Neo-Cons” and those in the know, knows it is a FACT!

You might want to look up the demographics for Fox, you are grossly mis-informed.
BlackWidow

Linda said:
It is easy :) It is the truth. Studies have been done on “Fox Viewers” and found then the least informed and their information they did have was incorrect. After bloging on this site, I would have to completely agree! Fox is a propaganda machine for the “Neo-Cons” and those in the know, knows it is a FACT!

I posted the link to the study of Fax viewers but knew they either would no look at it or if they did read the info their brains would explode with anger and rage about the results.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html#comments
BlackWidow

Atticus Draco said:
YEP,, A GREAT FICTIONAL STORY I’m guessing,, ‘coz i didnt read that chit,,but,, it’s easy to assume THAT ‘COZ,, IT’S ON HUFFINGTON!

OK same story from different source. I am starting to act like sara (ms Google)

http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=study+of+fox+viewers&qpvt=study+of+fox+viewers&FORM=EWRE.
George C

HA !
Pablo

Jonathan Scott said:
Yeah it is, but for all the teabaggers who hate government, Somalia hasn’t had a functioning government for 23 years why don’t you mouthbreathing, sign carriers go get lost there.

Right, because there’s only Somalia or Venezuela. The country was founded on the principle of limited government, not no government. We should revive that.
newzmaker

Obama is focused on winning a 2nd term, and Maddow, as well as the other fringe lefties, have to be thrown under the bus to accomplish this. Run along, Maddow.
Atticus Draco

newzmaker said:
Obama is focused on winning a 2nd term, and Maddow, as well as the other fringe lefties, have to be thrown under the bus to accomplish this. Run along, Maddow.

HELL NO!
BACK THAT BUS UP,,that is,, put it in “R”,,, AND DO IT AGAIN!!!
tee hee
justanotherconservative

Jack Burns said:
Uh Oh doesn’t look to good for Obama in 2012. So who’s it going to be? Should have elected Hillary when they had the chance. Now she wants to bow out of public service. Could have had Bill for another 8 years going up to the podium, for the wife either directly or indirectly…

oh dont expect her to bow out of public service any more than her husband has. she’s just lying in the grass waiting to pounce on that democratic nomination.
SpineCrusher

BlackWidow said:
OK same story from different source. I am starting to act like sara (ms Google) http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=study+of+fox+viewers&qpvt=study+of+fox+viewers&FORM=EWRE.

Nice work, but you just sent them all into a tailspin..haha!

It’s now proven, via a study conducted at the University of Maryland what non-Fox watchers have always known.

The conclusion is inescapable. Fox News is deliberately misinforming its viewers and it is doing so for a reason. Every issue below is one in which the Republican Party had a vested interest. The GOP benefited from the ignorance that Fox News helped to proliferate.

In eight of the nine questions below, Fox News placed first in the percentage of those who were misinformed (they placed second in the question on TARP). That’s a pretty high batting average for journalistic fraud. Here is a list of what Fox News viewers believe that just ain’t so:

91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs
72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit
72 percent believe the economy is getting worse
60 percent believe climate change is not occurring
49 percent believe income taxes have gone up
63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts
56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailout
38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARP
63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear)

Yes, the people who get their news from Fox are stupid. But the bigger question still remains if it’s a chicken-or-egg scenario: do people get stupid from Fox or do stupid people gravitate to Fox?
Linda

Atticus Draco said:
YEP,, A GREAT FICTIONAL STORY I’m guessing,, ‘coz i didnt read that chit,,but,, it’s easy to assume THAT ‘COZ,, IT’S ON HUFFINGTON!

You definitely have a problem excepting reality. Poor baby.
SpineCrusher

and their heads implode

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/671.php?nid=&id=&pnt=671&lb=
Atticus Draco

BlackWidow said:
OK same story from different source. I am starting to act like sara (ms Google)

http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=study+of+fox+viewers&qpvt=study+of+fox+viewers&FORM=EWRE.

lol,, i’m NOT saying a story like that doesnt exist BW
HELL,, i imagine a bunch of leftest blogs and sites have it,,
that doesnt give it anymore credence though!!!

You wanna think FOX viewers are dumb,,, FINE
LEAN FORWARD and see how far that gets ya!
sticks

Linda said:
It is easy :) It is the truth. Studies have been done on “Fox Viewers” and found then the least informed and their information they did have was incorrect. After bloging on this site, I would have to completely agree! Fox is a propaganda machine for the “Neo-Cons” and those in the know, knows it is a FACT!

BlackWidow said:
I posted the link to the study of Fax viewers but knew they either would no look at it or if they did read the info their brains would explode with anger and rage about the results. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html#comments

Coming from the Huffington post this has credibilty problems to begin with, but I soldiered on and read it… The best I could come up with from this so called “POLL” is… Fox viewers were “significantly more likely” to believe… Then it gives some numbers in catagories… It does’nt compare or even say what they mean… The numbers are all 31 or lower, so as percentage, it does’nt seem all that significant to me… I think what this equals is… More made up, pulled outta someones ass, bullchit…
Linda

SpineCrusher said:
Nice work, but you just sent them all into a tailspin..haha! It’s now proven, via a study conducted at the University of Maryland what non-Fox watchers have always known. The conclusion is inescapable. Fox News is deliberately misinforming its viewers and it is doing so for a reason. Every issue below is one in which the Republican Party had a vested interest. The GOP benefited from the ignorance that Fox News helped to proliferate. In eight of the nine questions below, Fox News placed first in the percentage of those who were misinformed (they placed second in the question on TARP). That’s a pretty high batting average for journalistic fraud. Here is a list of what Fox News viewers believe that just ain’t so: 91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit72 percent believe the economy is getting worse60 percent believe climate change is not occurring49 percent believe income taxes have gone up63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailout38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARP63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear) Yes, the people who get their news from Fox are stupid. But the bigger question still remains if it’s a chicken-or-egg scenario: do people get stupid from Fox or do stupid people gravitate to Fox?

Interesting study an I woul have to agree with it.

My guess is that people get stupid for Fox. It is that every one has the same talking points on Fox and they don’t differ. So this makes their viewers believe it is true.
Linda

sticks said:
Coming from the Huffington post this has credibilty problems to begin with, but I soldiered on and read it… The best I could come up with from this so called “POLL” is… Fox viewers were “significantly more likely” to believe… Then it gives some numbers in catagories… It does’nt compare or even say what they mean… The numbers are all 31 or lower, so as percentage, it does’nt seem all that significant to me… I think what this equals is… More made up, pulled outta someones ass, bullchit…

Hey Sticks, it is more credible then Fox! lol
SpineCrusher

sticks said:
Coming from the Huffington post this has credibilty problems to begin with, but I soldiered on and read it… The best I could come up with from this so called “POLL” is… Fox viewers were “significantly more likely” to believe… Then it gives some numbers in catagories… It does’nt compare or even say what they mean… The numbers are all 31 or lower, so as percentage, it does’nt seem all that significant to me… I think what this equals is… More made up, pulled outta someones ass, bullchit…

The poll WAS NOT conducted by the Huffinton Post, which is why we have provided other links from site that are REPORTING ON THE STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND.

This was a non-partisan report and is now on the record as fact.

so, to quote a familiar poster here:

FACT: People who get their news from Fox are stupid

…and that’s no longer opinion, but FACT!

HAHAHAHA!!
Notsofast

RM and all the loser libs just don’t get 11/02/2010. You libs lost ; just go away.

YOU are the problem , not us!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The vote was 81-19 in the Senate. It is YOU! You! Not the rest of us.

On 11/02/2010, Repubs gained 63 seats in the House, 6 additional seats in the Senate, 12 governorships plus nearly 700 State seats.

You lost! YOU ARE LOSER LIBS!

Get used to it.
timzank

Keep your fingers in your ears spinecrusher and holler one more time “nana nana boo boo”, it serves you well. A dubious half assed “survey” by the University of Maryland done EXPRESSLY for Huffpo & it’s rabid marxist readers is hardly a basis for any such statement.

You might want to look at ratings and demographics and the way Fox dominates as compared to the others, or you can just put your head back in your ass.
SpineCrusher

Notsofast said:
RM and all the loser libs just don’t get 11/02/2010. You libs lost ; just go away. YOU are the problem , not us!!!!!!!!!!!!! The vote was 81-19 in the Senate. It is YOU! You! Not the rest of us. On 11/02/2010, Repubs gained 63 seats in the House, 6 additional seats in the Senate, 12 governorships plus nearly 700 State seats. You lost! YOU ARE LOSER LIBS! Get used to it.

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM, BECAUSE YOU ARE STUPID FOR WATCHING FOX AND BELIEVING THEIR LIES!!!

THIS IS NOW A FACT!!! DEAL WITH IT IDIOT!!
SpineCrusher

timzank said:
Keep your fingers in your ears spinecrusher and holler one more time “nana nana boo boo”, it serves you well. A dubious half assed “survey” by the University of Maryland done EXPRESSLY for Huffpo & it’s rabid marxist readers is hardly a basis for any such statement. You might want to look at ratings and demographics and the way Fox dominates as compared to the others, or you can just put your head back in your ass.

Dominates in LYING to it’s viewers.

You can’t handle the truth, so you will cling to your unfounded beliefs.

When you believe faith over facts, you are the one with your head up your ass!!
timzank

SpineCrusher said:
This was a non-partisan report and is now on the record as fact.

On what “record”?? Who is in charge of “the record”? Where is this “record”??

Jesus, you’re funny. What a putz
Linda

Notsofast said:
RM and all the loser libs just don’t get 11/02/2010. You libs lost ; just go away. YOU are the problem , not us!!!!!!!!!!!!! The vote was 81-19 in the Senate. It is YOU! You! Not the rest of us. On 11/02/2010, Repubs gained 63 seats in the House, 6 additional seats in the Senate, 12 governorships plus nearly 700 State seats. You lost! YOU ARE LOSER LIBS! Get used to it.

Spoken like a true idiot!
Notsofast

SpineCrusher said:
91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs
72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit
72 percent believe the economy is getting worse

I will just refute a few of your lies.

1. The Stimulus bill had a zero impact on job stimulation. In fact, a record # of jobs were lost in 2009!!

“Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
By Julia A. Seymour
Business & Media Institute
1/8/2010 11:03:00 AM
Unemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)

2.HC Bill will cause a deficit- to Americans!!! It has already increased cost in HC premiums and suddenly BHO now says, “Well of course costs will go up when you add 37 million to the HC system.

“Health Insurance Premiums Would Rise Under Obama Plan, AP ‘Fact Check’ Says
Buyers, beware: President Barack Obama says his health care overhaul will lower premiums by double digits, but check the fine print.
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Associated Press

Washington (AP) – Buyers, beware: President Barack Obama says his health care overhaul will lower premiums by double digits, but check the fine print.

Premiums are likely to keep going up even if the health care bill passes, experts say. If cost controls work as advertised, annual increases would level off with time. But don’t look for a rollback. Instead, the main reason premiums would be more affordable is that new government tax credits would help cover the cost for millions of people.”

3. The economy is getting worse? Of course the economy has gotten worse!!!

“Record number in government anti-poverty programs
Updated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand.

Posted on Fri, Oct. 15, 2010
Record number of foreclosures in Sept. But, why?

McClatchy Newspapers
In a new foreclosure crisis that has gone national, attorneys general in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have launched a sweeping probe of the country’s lenders, even as new figures showed banks repossessed a record number of homes in September.

Record number of Americans living in poverty
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MSNBC.com
September 16, 2010
Record number of Americans living in poverty
Census Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a year
WASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday.
Notsofast

Notsofast said:
Spoken like a true idiot!

That would be a loser like you Libby Loser Linda!

Refute anything I said, dear.
Notsofast

SpineCrusher said:
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM, BECAUSE YOU ARE STUPID FOR WATCHING FOX AND BELIEVING THEIR LIES!!!

Hey fool.

Refute what I posted.

Come on, child refute this:

The vote was 81-19 in the Senate. It is YOU! You! Not the rest of us. On 11/02/2010, Repubs gained 63 seats in the House, 6 additional seats in the Senate, 12 governorships plus nearly 700 State seats. You lost!
timzank

Notsofast said:
That would be a loser like you Libby Loser Linda! Refute anything I said, dear.

She can’t refute it.
Linda

Notsofast said:
That would be a loser like you Libby Loser Linda! Refute anything I said, dear.

With you “NotSOSmart” it is a waste of my time, your a complete idiot!
Notsofast

timzank said:
She can’t refute it.

None of ‘em can.

All they can do is lie.
Notsofast

Linda said:
With you “NotSOSmart” it is a waste of my time, your a complete

Bingo!

You poor loser can’t refute a thing I said.

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
sticks

SpineCrusher said:
The poll WAS NOT conducted by the Huffinton Post, which is why we have provided other links from site that are REPORTING ON THE STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND. This was a non-partisan report and is now on the record as fact. so, to quote a familiar poster here: FACT: People who get their news from Fox are stupid …and that’s no longer opinion, but FACT! HAHAHAHA!!

Yes true, the poll itself is from the University of Maryland, the link is from huffpo… How you get non-partisan from that is beyond me… Who exactly were they asking ?… Was this “poll” conducted over the phone, in a class at this University, people on the street etc. etc ?… All of these things make a difference, and normally a “poll” gives the who, where, what, when, and why, and a bit of comparison… This “poll” gives none of this info… Seems a little shady, and a long way from a “FACT”…
stoogedudes

timzank said:
A dubious half assed “survey” by the University of Maryland done EXPRESSLY for Huffpo & it’s rabid marxist readers is hardly a basis for any such statement.

I don’t know if what the survey says is true or not, but if a university released a poll saying that MSNBC viewers were the least informed and Fox was the most informed, many of the conservatives on this site would quote it as Gospel.
Linda

sticks said:
Yes true, the poll itself is from the University of Maryland, the link is from huffpo… How you get non-partisan from that is beyond me… Who exactly were they asking ?… Was this “poll” conducted over the phone, in a class at this University, people on the street etc. etc ?… All of these things make a difference, and normally a “poll” gives the who, where, what, when, and why, and a bit of comparison… This “poll” gives none of this info… Seems a little shady, and a long way from a “FACT”…

Good point. Do you question the “Fox” polling as completely? You should.
Linda

Notsofast said:
I will just refute a few of your lies. 1. The Stimulus bill had a zero impact on job stimulation. In fact, a record # of jobs were lost in 2009!! “Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940By Julia A. SeymourBusiness & Media Institute1/8/2010 11:03:00 AMUnemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009) 2.HC Bill will cause a deficit- to Americans!!! It has already increased cost in HC premiums and suddenly BHO now says, “Well of course costs will go up when you add 37 million to the HC system. “Health Insurance Premiums Would Rise Under Obama Plan, AP ‘Fact Check’ SaysBuyers, beware: President Barack Obama says his health care overhaul will lower premiums by double digits, but check the fine print.Wednesday, March 17, 2010By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Associated Press Washington (AP) – Buyers, beware: President Barack Obama says his health care overhaul will lower premiums by double digits, but check the fine print. Premiums are likely to keep going up even if the health care bill passes, experts say. If cost controls work as advertised, annual increases would level off with time. But don’t look for a rollback. Instead, the main reason premiums would be more affordable is that new government tax credits would help cover the cost for millions of people.” 3. The economy is getting worse? Of course the economy has gotten worse!!! “Record number in government anti-poverty programsUpdated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAYWASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand. Posted on Fri, Oct. 15, 2010Record number of foreclosures in Sept. But, why? McClatchy NewspapersIn a new foreclosure crisis that has gone national, attorneys general in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have launched a sweeping probe of the country’s lenders, even as new figures showed banks repossessed a record number of homes in September. Record number of Americans living in poverty• MSNBC.comSeptember 16, 2010Record number of Americans living in povertyCensus Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a yearWASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday.

Where did you get this info? From Fox! lol
Notsofast

Linda said:
Where did you get this info? From Fox! lol

LOL

You obviously can’t read, retard!
Linda

Notsofast said:
LOL You obviously can’t read, retard!

Well, I duspute your facts are lies, every single one. Ass bite.

I would believe ANYTHING you put down as FACT! I have seen and read way too much of your crap.
I don’t have the time to dispute your lies right now however, I will and I will hold you to every point!

Retard!!
sticks

Linda said:
Good point. Do you question the “Fox” polling as completely? You should.

I question everything completely, when it comes to polls… Everybody has an agenda…
Linda

sticks said:
I question everything completely, when it comes to polls… Everybody has an agenda…

True, then in that case you must see the Fox agenda.
Just4thefax

Linda said:
Where did you get this info? From Fox! lol

Fact: Babble babble bable…… Fox News …… Babble babble babble…….. Fox is everywhere!…….. Babble babble babble……. Lie lie lie……. babble babble babble….. hahahahahah….. babble babble babble….

What is a fact in this persons post! Correct, she’s a 22 year old no nothing slacker!
sticks

Linda said:
True, then in that case you must see the Fox agenda.

The difference being I actually take into account an agenda… As opposed to you who thinks if it comes from huffpo or media matters etc. its gospel…
Just4thefax

Linda said:
Retard!!

Fact: Correct you are! Plus you are a slacker!
Just4thefax

Linda said:
I duspute your facts are lies

Fact: Liberal English! Huh???
newzmaker

newzmaker said:
Obama is focused on winning a 2nd term, and Maddow, as well as the other fringe lefties, have to be thrown under the bus to accomplish this. Run along, Maddow.

Correction: Obama cannot win in 2012, no matter what he does.
writer

It would take much less time for Rachel to list everyone she isn’t angry with.
Linda

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Liberal English! Huh???

Do you work? Or are you senior citizen who sits on their ass all day in front of your PC all day? If I make a typo or hurry to much with YOU it it simply because I find you totally irrelevant and your comments are lame.
Linda

newzmaker said:
Correction: Obama cannot win in 2012, no matter what he does.

Oh Yeah? lol
fanofamerica

Linda said:
Where did you get this info? From Fox! lol

Linda, he sourced every single quote for you and not one is from Fox. How did you miss that?
Nachi

The little Repug gargoyles are off their perches again today!

Knew I never should have created…Cro-Magnon Man!
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Jack Burns

justanotherconservative said:
oh dont expect her to bow out of public service any more than her husband has. she’s just lying in the grass waiting to pounce on that democratic nomination.

I for one would love to see that. Talk about entertaining! Never watched a single debate in 08, but if Hillary ran against Obama. I would be a TiVOing everything, and cooking up the popcorn. It won’t get better then that! Just hope Obama runs for a second term. LOL
ProudCanadian

As someone on the outside looking in, I’ve been cruising Mediaite for a few weeks now, along with other various left and right wing sites. I’ve always found American politics interesting, but not as much as I do currently, and it’s mostly because of the boards on these sites. Everybody is just so angry, both Libs and Repubs, and it’s pretty sad to see how low some will stoop. We’re all people, with families, and jobs (well, maybe not jobs), and mortgages. Why can’t a Liberal look at a Republican, and not see a baby-eating monster, but a guy who’s genuinely worried about where the country is heading? On the other hand, why can’t a Republican look at a Liberal, and not see a spineless whining puss, but a person who suffered under the Bush regime for 8 years, and has their hope being torn away day after day? I realize the stress of your economy being in the toilet is tough, it’s hard here too, definitely not a utopia either. But I think America needs to pull up it’s socks, and get back in gear, am I right? It’s kinda a hippy thing to say, but why can’t we be friends?
Socialist

More Liberty said:
“It understandably irked the self-described progressive because it was just another example of, as she put it, “this phenom of passing bills in the house only to see it die in the Senate.””

That whole pesky checks and balances thing really sucks huh Maddow.

it only sucks if you are the majority party.. which the democrats are until next January.. I for a fact love checks and balances, too bad democrats are too stupid not to use them.. they had so many opportunities during the 2002-2006.. so yea now it sucks for them..
Kermit

fanofamerica said:
Linda, he sourced every single quote for you and not one is from Fox. How did you miss that?

I don’t believe a word this guy says, look at his past post, he is a wacko….. I won’t accept anything unless I check each and every one of his references out.
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Just4thefax

ProudCanadian said:
As someone on the outside looking in, I’ve been cruising Mediaite

Fact: Correct South Park was right blaming it on the Canadians! That’s why these jackass spenders in congress and senate backed by that zero can’t stop the spending spree! It was the Canadians that did it they invented Kool Aid! We need to ban them all!
Just4thefax

Kermit said:
is a wacko

Fact: Yes you are a wacko Kermit!
Socialist

newzmaker said:
Correction: Obama cannot win in 2012, no matter what he does.

we will see.. after all tahts what pple said about clinton in 1994. Politics in this country is very unpredictable when you think it is and predictable when you think the opposite.. it is just the paradox of American politics
ImRubberYoureGlue

Who cares what Rachel Maddow thinks? Her standards change with the letter following a politician’s name.

I can’t imagine anyone gives a flying fuck what a stupid mainstream media talking head thinks anymore.
Socialist

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Correct South Park was right blaming it on the Canadians! That’s why these jackass spenders in congress and senate backed by that zero can’t stop the spending spree! It was the Canadians that did it they invented Kool Aid! We need to ban them all!

STFU and be polite to pple from other countries.. We want ourselves to be not treated like shit in other coutries.. So let us take a step and be hospitable to other cultures and then, and ONLY THEN we deserve to be respected.
nrgetick

“We’re all people, with families, and jobs (well, maybe not jobs), and mortgages. Why can’t a Liberal look at a Republican, and not see a baby-eating monster….On the other hand, why can’t a Republican look at a Liberal, and not see a spineless whining puss…… why can’t we be friends?

ha ha ha ha ha oh man you got alot to learn about us yanks… it because of that attitude you just displayed right there, is why rethuglicans hate you and your country. Im not sure who they refer to spineless whining pussies more, we libs or you canucks. You do realize they openly talk about invading your country and taking over all your shit …not in the media of course, but around the dinner table…ha ha oh man you poor sons a bitches, you better hope they dont elect sarah palin. ha ha
nrgetick

“Just4thefax said:
Fact: Correct South Park was right blaming it on the Canadians! That’s why these jackass spenders in congress and senate backed by that zero can’t stop the spending spree! It was the Canadians that did it they invented Kool Aid! We need to ban them all!”

ha ha what did I tell you.
Truth

TangledThorns said:
The base is smaller than she thinks, like 17% last I checked that call themselves liberal. Maddow and her hipster friends are learning that Bush actually did make a better president than Obama.

Man have got a short memory
Just4thefax

Socialist said:
we deserve to be respected

Fact: W-please it was a joke, like you!
BatBoy

ProudCanadian said:
why can’t a Republican look at a Liberal, and not see a spineless whining puss,

But that is what liberals are…”spineless whinning pusses!” :>)

As they say…”you are what you are” and…”everybody has to be something!”
Tucker P.

If Rachel doesn’t like rich people . She should move to a third world country .
She sure went along way around to say the (D) have had control for two years and failed .
(D) like the rules when it favors them . But its a broken system when its not .