So I guess things are moving along just fine.

Sounds like The Chicago Jesus is getting thin skinned. Always a bad day when the cool kid picks up his marbles and goes home.

You hillbillies would call him a badass if he had a R after his name and pulled this stunt.

This is a non-story, but it’ll get 473 comments coming up with clever ways to spell Obama.

TOTALLY AWESOME

Would love to see what him “LIGHTING INTO CANTOR” was. I’m guessing it was a bigger spanking than that time he met with all of them re: healthcare.

CSPAN should totally have cameras in the room for these debt ceiling talks to see how CRAZY the GOP is acting.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhhHh

GO OBAMA GO!!!!

Good. The repuublicans have been throwing tantrums for 2 years. I am glad to see an Angry Black man finally!

This is getting so old, every couple of months there is a new crisis… if they want to keep playing these gaimes let them crash and burn I am sure that the American people will pick up the pieces and throw them all out in the next election.

Bill Huggins said:
TOTALLY AWESOME Would love to see what him “LIGHTING INTO CANTOR” was. I’m guessing it was a bigger spanking than that time he met with all of them re: healthcare. CSPAN should totally have cameras in the room for these debt ceiling talks to see how CRAZY the GOP is acting. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhhHh GO OBAMA GO!!!!

C-Span, cameras? Never going to happen, that would involve Obama keeping his promise of transparency..

What a clown. He apparently really does think of himself as America’s “commander.” The trouble is that Hussein’s had everything he’s wanted throughout his entire life handed to him…………………..until now. He just doesn’t know how to act.

catfishjuggling show said:
You hillbillies would call him a badass if he had a R after his name and pulled this stunt. This is a non-story, but it’ll get 473 comments coming up with clever ways to spell Obama.

Sorry but with his build and demeanor and mannerisms, he comes off like a petulant child. He just can’t pull off “tough guy”. Like Maher says, he’s not black enough. Barry can’t go all “hood” and sh*t, especially when he wears his mom jeans.

Gefforyk said:
C-Span, cameras? Never going to happen, that would involve Obama keeping his promise of transparency..

Yeah, Remember those cspan televised health care & budget debates he promised?

Davo said:
What a clown. He apparently really does think of himself as America’s “commander.” The trouble is that Hussein’s had everything he’s wanted throughout his entire life handed to him…………………..until now. He just doesn’t know how to act.

Davo, you are SO right. He was raised to be a spoiled brat and he did have everything handed to him, without ever having to work for anything. He’s a NARCISSISTIC SOCIOPATH- very dangerous man.

Isn’t there some kingdom for which we can nominate him to be KING- or more to his liking, EMPEROR!

This is TERRIFIC! Obamo–the most petulant, child-like, thin-skinned Leftist EVER–is reaching his breaking point. With no friends ANYWHERE, Obamo can no longer say that it’s simply that others are walking out on HIM; he’s agitated too.

The characterization by Cantor is spot-on: Obamo is agitated and stormed out. He’s mad that the pitchforks are pointed AT him rather than BY him.

Enjoy your last eighteen months of watercress, Obamo.

Somehow I don’t remember seeing those, my memory must be a little off cuz I am sure that our president would never lie to us.

Well, I have learned over time taht CNN is completely unreliable, so I don’t put much faith into Jessica yellin’s reportage; she is just another Susan Rosegyn.

Obama is not a leader, he is busy campaigning. Whoever said this crisis will not end until hehimself is out of office was flat on accruate; this manchild is incapable of leading. he has become a joke.

WAAAAAAAAAAA…..MOMMY, OBAMA YELLED AT ME!!!!!!!!

Wouldve LOVED to see Obama school them on the lessons of REAGAN

HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHA

BET IT WAS AWESOME

I guess I’m only disappointed Obama didn’t spit in Cantor’s face. But Barack is a lot classier when faced with lowlifes than I am.

ChrisNH said:
This is TERRIFIC! Obamo–the most petulant, child-like, thin-skinned Leftist EVER–is reaching his breaking point. With no friends ANYWHERE, Obamo can no longer say that it’s simply that others are walking out on HIM; he’s agitated too. The characterization by Cantor is spot-on: Obamo is agitated and stormed out. He’s mad that the pitchforks are pointed AT him rather than BY him. Enjoy your last eighteen months of watercress, Obamo.

The level of magical thinking on the right these days is really phenomenal. Never before in our nation’s history (as far as I can recall) has one portion of the political class been so totally out of touch with both reality and the people.

Wingnuts — you will pay a heavy price in November 2012. I just hope that you don’t drag the rest of us down before you’re presented with the bill.

Obama doesn’t have much leverage. If he agrees with the Republicans, he will be forced to reduce spending. And if he can’t reach a deal with the Republicans, the government hits its debt limit….and then he will be forced to reduce spending. The same end-point, no matter which way he turns. He better start figuring out where to cut.

only in liberal lala land does the one who thorws the hissy fit be the man!

Honestely, this is bizzarro world. ‘

This is what happens when the media build a false pedestal to put an empty suit on. he is incapable, incompetent, and a one termer, rightly so.

Plz. Cantor can’t pull off the “tough guy” act. He’s more like the nerdy kid in school who keeps trying to sit at the cool kids table.

This is SO rich…the tweed-jacketed, haughty, faculty-lounge academic decides to LECTURE…This is SO Obamo-like.

Of course, this is all happening on Obamo’s watch. When Bush was president, Leftists like to say that everything negative happened on ‘His Watch.’ Never mind that Pelosi & Reid were very much running things. No. It was all happening on ‘Bush’s watch.’

How wonderful to have this line of logic come full-circle.

PRESIDENT OBAMA 2012!

Shove those gNOpigs into their own filth!

OBAMA 2012!

TfT said:
only in liberal lala land does the one who thorws the hissy fit be the man! Honestely, this is bizzarro world. ‘ This is what happens when the media build a false pedestal to put an empty suit on. he is incapable, incompetent, and a one termer, rightly so.

Keep chanting “one term, one term, one term . . .” I’m sure it’ll have a lot of impact on objective reality. The noise will also prevent you from hearing what the people are saying, which is that the GOP is completely nuts.

The repubs BETTER not back down! “We’ve’ got Omoron on the ropes….which, despite what the Moron trolls here will say…’We’ll’ get this Country back on track.

From reports of others attending the meeting, Can’tor fabricated this story. Can’tor’s own petulance will either win him leadership in the House (should the Tea Partiers usurp the Republican party) or kill his career (if, as is more likely, the “business” Republicans fend off the attack of the barbarians).

No mediadout, the media is saying that…not the people. They got snookered by a fawning media last go round, it won’t happen again. they have lost all credibility. which is why this article is so funny….as if most people think CNN has it right!

bwahahahahaha

give me your money rich people, obama2012

Paul G said:
The repubs BETTER not back down! “We’ve’ got Omoron on the ropes….which, despite what the Moron trolls here will say…’We’ll’ get this Country back on track.

So, you are ready to bring back slavery.

Nice.

TfT said:
only in liberal lala land does the one who thorws the hissy fit be the man!

Honestely, this is bizzarro world. ‘

This is what happens when the media build a false pedestal to put an empty suit on. he is incapable, incompetent, and a one termer, rightly so.

Put away your ruler. President Obama has nothing to prove to anyone about his manhood. The Somali rebels. Bin Laden. Enough said.

What a freaking idiot!!! What moron would say “Don’t call my bluff”.
Duh!!, You’re bluffing? Wow, who’d a thought that this guy was bluffing.
Bluffing…… the President of the United States of America bluffing. Wow!!! And saying it out loud?
We voted this guy to be our President? We are dumber than I thought.
Be fun, and probably profitable to play a little blackjack with Obama.
“Don’t call my bluff!!!!” That is about the funniest thing I have ever herd out of a world leader (?).
Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahaa……………

cjd ohio 1 said:
give me your money rich people, obama2012

Looks like he’s collecting boatloads of money from the not so wealthy at the moment.

heard

Skippy said:
So, you are ready to bring back slavery.

Nice.

You’re such a freaking idiot. That card has been pulled from the deck – any chance of using your head?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Looks like he’s collecting boatloads of money from the not so wealthy at the moment.

new taxes wow

Hey Obama, wassa matter…you Mad?

Don’t just call his Bluff…Punk him. He earned it.

So President Crybaby threatened to go to the American people. bwahahahahahahahahahaha It’s like he threatened to tell Mom. What a pansy ass liberal.

King Obama is a low class intransigent squint of a dink .

I recall I certain gNOpig with presidential aspirations saying slavery was a good thing.

Just a little while ago, she was on KKKlownnitty pretending she didn’t say that.

No. She didn’t!

Davo said:
What a clown. He apparently really does think of himself as America’s “commander.” The trouble is that Hussein’s had everything he’s wanted throughout his entire life handed to him…………………..until now. He just doesn’t know how to act.

What part of “Commander in Chief” don’t you get?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Put away your ruler. President Obama has nothing to prove to anyone about his manhood. The Somali rebels. Bin Laden. Enough said.

Thanks for acknowledging that Bush had some really awesomely awesome policies!! When Obama speaks to terrorists and dictators he bows, begs and gravels.

mediadoubt said:
spit

This obnoxious creep continues the picture of a ferret faced serial killer . Sicko .

TfT said:
No mediadout, the media is saying that…not the people. They got snookered by a fawning media last go round, it won’t happen again. they have lost all credibility. which is why this article is so funny….as if most people think CNN has it right! bwahahahahaha

Note to TfT: You ain’t the people. Read the polls.

ChuckfromTacoma said:
What a freaking idiot!!! What moron would say “Don’t call my bluff”.Duh!!, You’re bluffing? Wow, who’d a thought that this guy was bluffing.Bluffing…… the President of the United States of America bluffing. Wow!!! And saying it out loud?We voted this guy to be our President? We are dumber than I thought.Be fun, and probably profitable to play a little blackjack with Obama.“Don’t call my bluff!!!!” That is about the funniest thing I have ever herd out of a world leader (?).Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahaa……………

I go along with your admission that you’re dumber than we thought.

Cantor to Leftists is what Pelosi looked like to us.

Get used to it…and eat your peas.

mediadoubt said:
Note to TfT: You ain’t the people. Read the polls.

I love how you don’t even supply some magical poll that he is supposed to read. Obama has 183% unfavorables…read the polls.

Obama had to beat it out of there to get instructions from his boss , Mr. Trumka .

The spineless gink.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/13/oh-my-angry-obama-storms-out-of-debt-ceiling-negotiations/

LoyalOpposition said:
THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Put away your ruler. President Obama has nothing to prove to anyone about his manhood. The Somali rebels. Bin Laden. Enough said.

Thanks for acknowledging that Bush had some really awesomely awesome policies!! When Obama speaks to terrorists and dictators he bows, begs and gravels.

I know it’s hard for you to acknowledge that an African America can be intelligent, resolute and courageous even when such a man is on our television screens daily. The Somali pirates. Bin Laden. Thanks President Obama. Intelligent, resolute and courageous. But, I don’t want to take anything from W. He scurried down into those underground bunkers really well on 9/11, and he would have caught Bin Laden eventually. If W could have won a 6th term.

The Lantern of Truth said:
This obnoxious creep continues the picture of a ferret faced serial killer . Sicko .

High praise to be called obnoxious by the likes of you. Keep it up!

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I know it’s hard for you to acknowledge that an African America can be intelligent, resolute and courageous even when such a man is on our television screens daily. The Somali pirates. Bin Laden. Thanks President Obama. Intelligent, resolute and courageous. But, I don’t want to take anything from W. He scurried down into those underground bunkers really well on 9/11, and he would have caught Bin Laden eventually. If W could have won a 6th term.

by throwing a tantrum, lol

WCinWI said:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/13/oh-my-angry-obama-storms-out-of-debt-ceiling-negotiations/

I thought of you last night when the Dirty Tricks Squad of the Wisconsin Republican State Executive Committee got smacked down.

As for President Obama storming out, Can’tor’s feeble attempt to divert attention from his own whiny petulance.

Our government is a joke. Why do they refuse cameras again?

“But,but,but…..It’s not me….it’s him!!”

Nice one Cantor,very strong PR there…hehehe….

Wow…

How can anyone believe a guy that got caught at a Brittney Spears concert?

cjd ohio 1 said:
by throwing a tantrum, lol

Sweetness, just because Can’tor said it doesn’t make it so. He’s not the most noble of men.

There is no reasoning with the gNOpigs.

NONE.

You could take that buyble, and Jebuzz himself could slap the gNOpigs with it. No way them gNOpigs are going to read or understand reason.

They can’t. It is beyond their DNA.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Sweetness, just because Can’tor said it doesn’t make it so. He’s not the most noble of men.

lol

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I know it’s hard for you to acknowledge that an African America can be intelligent, resolute and courageous even when such a man is on our television screens daily. The Somali pirates. Bin Laden. Thanks President Obama. Intelligent, resolute and courageous. But, I don’t want to take anything from W. He scurried down into those underground bunkers really well on 9/11, and he would have caught Bin Laden eventually. If W could have won a 6th term.

That’s two race cards played by libs, you all playing the liberal race card drinking game with me right? I’m gonna be drunk before I finish typing this.

obama threw a tantrum and went and hid lol

Obama is a desperate juvenile delinquent , trapped in a corner by his own stupidity ,

This punk can’t do anything without screwing it up beyond all recognition .

Pitiful little worm .

7 times, the gNOpig Chimperor raised the debt limit under the approval of the gNOpigs.

For 7 times the gNOpigs cheered new paint in a school somewhere in Baghdad.

Now the gNOpig clowns are braying because investing in the USA is TOO MUCH!

would love to see Barack slap the piss out of that little bitch.. give him a “famous Archie slap”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBZRkRRCwY&feature=related

Skippy said:
7 times, the gNOpig Chimperor raised the debt limit under the approval of the gNOpigs.

For 7 times the gNOpigs cheered new paint in a school somewhere in Baghdad.

It is patriotic to raise the debt ceiling to fund occupations and reconstruction. Not so much to fund the poor.

LoyalOpposition said:
That’s two race cards played by libs, you all playing the liberal race card drinking game with me right? I’m gonna be drunk before I finish typing this.

You aren’t already? Could’ve fooled me.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Obama is a desperate juvenile delinquent , trapped in a corner by his own stupidity , This punk can’t do anything without screwing it up beyond all recognition . Pitiful little worm .

Projecting much? Or are you channeling Eric “crybaby” Cantor?

Obama needs to bring it out of the meeting room and show this to the public. It worked in the GOP’s own meeting a year or two ago where he met them in their own meeting and decimated them so badly the next year they were afraid to have him in a televised event.

hell of a night, obama throws a tantrum and matthews and the RRK hate immigrants . who knew

Bill Adkins said:
Obama needs to bring it out of the meeting room and show this to the public. It worked in the GOP’s own meeting a year or two ago where he met them in their own meeting and decimated them so badly the next year they were afraid to have him in a televised event.

i will watch it right after the health care debates………oops

mediadoubt said:
“crybaby

Ferret Face agitated tonight .

Ge ta human picture next time .

Someone call Rupert Murdoch to get this straightened out.

Hey, at least this time Cantor’s whine didn’t cost $350.

Davo said:
What a clown. He apparently really does think of himself as America’s “commander.” The trouble is that Hussein’s had everything he’s wanted throughout his entire life handed to him…………………..until now. He just doesn’t know how to act.

give it a break dumbass….you conservative wingnuts are getting your hat handed to ya….Obama is kickin Cantors punk ass, the fbi, sec, fcc and justice dept are about to run rupert murdock back to kangaroo land , busted and disguested….FOX News is about to go under just like bin laden…..all this in Obamas 1st term….i predicted early that the republican party was far to racist to accept a black president and were willing to destroy the country and themselves trying to get rid of him…..this is what happens when you crossburning asswipes go too far….NOW MOVE YOUR SORRY ASSES OUT OF THE WAY…..RETURN QUIETLY TO YOUR FALLOUT SHELTERS…..The adults are in charge now

CosmosDan said:
Hey, at least this time Cantor’s whine didn’t cost $350.

hehehe…….pretty good…..

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Sweetness, just because Can’tor said it doesn’t make it so. He’s not the most noble of men.

so you hate women AND jews?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Sweetness, just because Can’tor said it doesn’t make it so. He’s not the most noble of men.

You can bet he said exactly what happened because he knows the media would make up b.s. if he didn’t.
Trust me the Pres just threw a temper tantrum because Timothy told him not to come back unless he got the deal done!

mediadoubt said:
Could’ve fooled me.

Andrew Sullivan tweeted . He wants his picture back .

Bill Adkins said:
Obama needs to bring it out of the meeting room and show this to the public. It worked in the GOP’s own meeting a year or two ago where he met them in their own meeting and decimated them so badly the next year they were afraid to have him in a televised event.

Did a lot of good for the country. Now we’re stuck with another entitlement called Healthcare. Over 2000 waivors and counting.

ProObamaAgenda said:
far to racist

ProObamaAgenda said:
crossburning asswipes

ProObamaAgenda said:
SORRY ASSES

ProObamaAgenda said:
busted and disguested

ProObamaAgenda said:
punk ass

ProObamaAgenda said:
dumbass

Mrs . Obama . Just where did you go to school again ?

Try to get your money back .

Moochy ! French fries are up !

Bill Huggins said:
Wouldve LOVED to see Obama school them on the lessons of REAGAN HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHA BET IT WAS AWESOME

I am sure that Obama lectured but I am just as sure that he did not lecture on Reagan… maybe in his mind he did, maybe in the minds of the Dems that were present he did, but as Obama and the Dems have no comprehension of who Ronald Reagan was or what he stood for, I must assume that Obama lectured on his deluced vision of Reagan was..

The GOP vile teabaggers are like petulant school children. Thank God Obama is the adult in the room.

Quite a day… Bohner attacks the President… Is undermined quickly by McConnell’s blunt acceptance of Republican violence against the economy and finally ends with Cantor’s simple obstruction of critical work… Go get em Mr. President. They are proving to be less than your equal even in sum.

Ok. Who stole Cantor’s lunch money today?

The Lantern of Truth said:
Mrs . Obama . Just where did you go to school again ?

Try to get your money back .

Moochy ! French fries are up !

You lack any Grace.

Obama is an Anti -Semitic little child .

An evil , arrogant child .

Damien Obama.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Andrew Sullivan tweeted . He wants his picture back .

You need to get a hobby with a bit more scope. Obsessing over discussion board avatars is so limiting.

Gefforyk said:
I am sure that Obama lectured but I am just as sure that he did not lecture on Reagan… maybe in his mind he did, maybe in the minds of the Dems that were present he did, but as Obama and the Dems have no comprehension of who Ronald Reagan was or what he stood for, I must assume that Obama lectured on his deluced vision of Reagan was..

Incompetent criminal budget buster? Yep, I think Dems know Reagan pretty well.

http://davegranlund.com/cartoons/2011/07/12/eric-cantor-and-debt-talks/

Why should the right trust Obama after the Obamacare vote?

ProObamaAgenda said:
far to racist

ProObamaAgenda said:
crossburning asswipes

ProObamaAgenda said:
SORRY ASSES

ProObamaAgenda said:
busted and disguested

ProObamaAgenda said:
punk ass

ProObamaAgenda said:
dumbass

Greg said:
You lack any Grace.

Yes . Your ally here is full of liberal class .

Cantor http://tildology.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/eric_cantor_ashley_todd.jpg

Yep, this must be why Obama refused to allow cameras in the meeting. He knew he would be called out for his lies and fear-mongering. If he were winning the debate and lighting people up, you can bet he’d want the cameras rolling.

Gefforyk said:
deluced vision

OOOO, that turns me on…LOL

glenn113 said:
Cantor http://tildology.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/eric_cantor_ashley_todd.jpg

You are a sick mess. I’m sorry you’re dad did all those things to you. :(

Greg said:
You lack any Grace.

Speaking from previous experience with you, nevrmind.

This may end his presidency? Pray to God!!

Eric Cantor doesn’t seem to realize that Obama is the guy who told jokes the night before he had Bin Laden killed. COLDBLOODED.

Like I said yesterday, drag this out as long as you can because Obama cannot handle doing his f’n job. He’s stuck in the White House and he’s cracking under the pressure. He wants to be out golfing, vacationing, campaigning in front of his adoring obamatons and having lavish White House parties.

That’s what he likes about being President…the perks…but he hates the actual job. What job has he ever had that lasted more than 18 months?

Make him a prisoner of the White House. He’s cracking and acting like a giant d*ck…his true self.

gar said:
Did a lot of good for the country. Now we’re stuck with another entitlement called Healthcare. Over 2000 waivors and counting.

Waivers – temporary cushions only available until 2014 – they’re not permanent. Why don’t you bring up something that you can intelligently converse about?

The Lantern of Truth said:
ProObamaAgenda said:
dumbass

Greg said:
You lack any Grace.
Yes . Your ally here is full of liberal class .

That is fair… You lack grace and he lacks class.

GEOFRYK,

“deluced?” I thought you had used a word that was unknown to me. However, perhaps you meant “deluded?”

Anyway, as I count you as protagonist or ally, my apologies for my weak humor.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Obama is an Anti -Semitic little child . An evil , arrogant child . Damien Obama.

did you just make an antichrist reference? What a critical thinking mind you have.

Gefforyk said:
I am sure that Obama lectured but I am just as sure that he did not lecture on Reagan… maybe in his mind he did, maybe in the minds of the Dems that were present he did, but as Obama and the Dems have no comprehension of who Ronald Reagan was or what he stood for, I must assume that Obama lectured on his deluced vision of Reagan was..

reagan signed the largest tax increase in history. Do you know why? it was as a comprimise. That’s how politics works. one side gives something and then the other does. That way there’s not this crazy amount of gridlock.

The Lantern of Truth said:
2 5

the green lantern tweeted, he said you have a dumb avatar.

http://micahwright.com/antiwar/greedypigs.jpg for the baggers.

Oenolicious said:
Ok. Who stole Cantor’s lunch money today?

I bet it was john boehner. he acts like a bully but sometimes he just lets his emotions get ahold of him.

Any way one slices it, this incident does not make Obama look very good.

Nationman said:
reagan signed the largest tax increase in history. Do you know why? it was as a comprimise. That’s how politics works. one side gives something and then the other does. That way there’s not this crazy amount of gridlock.

That’s also why we’re in such terrible fiscal shape. No one has the guts to do whats right. They’re all only worried about the next election. The only one with any guts is Paul Ryan and look at how the media…yes MEDIA…demagogued him.

Dem4Ever said:
Any way one slices it, this incident does not make Obama look very good.

Well…it does if you like your President to act like a giant d*ck. And we all know the Obama media loves them some Obama d*ck.

OxyCon said:
That’s also why we’re in such terrible fiscal shape. No one has the guts to do whats right. They’re all only worried about the next election. The only one with any guts is Paul Ryan and look at how the media…yes MEDIA…demagogued him.

please, he was going to scrap the entire healthcare plan. Do you really think he thought that would fly? really?

Dem4Ever said:
Any way one slices it, this incident does not make Obama look very good.

makes cantor look like a fool. More short term extensions, just more bandaids.

OxyCon said:
Well…it does if you like your President to act like a giant d*ck. And we all know the Obama media loves them some Obama d*ck.

do you like talking about giant d*cks? I get that impression from your post.

Obama knows he losing, that’s why he’s getting so testy. Poor little baby not getting his way.

Nationman said:

something tells me you and you libpussy friends here wont be the ones paying those extra taxes…

since i will be, why the f*ck should i care what you losers think? you dont have any skin in the game…

“There was blood on the saddle, blood all around
And a great big puddle of blood on the ground

The Cowboy lay in it, all covered with gore
He’ll never ride tall in the saddle no more

Oh pity the cowboy, all bloody and dead
A bronco fell on him and mashed his head

A plurality of Americans trust the Republican congressional leadership more than they trust President Barack Obama to handle the federal deficit and the debt ceiling, according to a new Gallup poll.

A majority of Americans are also more concerned that the government will raise the debt ceiling without plans for major spending cuts than they are that the government will precipitate a major economic crisis if it does not raise the debt limit.

Only 22 percent of Americans, according to Gallup, say they want their member of Congress to vote to raise the debt ceiling.

Between July 7-10, Gallup interviewed 1,016 adults for the poll.

Respondents were asked: “Who do you trust more to handle the issues concerning the federal budget deficit and the federal debt ceiling President Obama (or) the Republican leaders in Congress?”

Forty-six percent said they trusted the Republican leaders in Congress more, and 43 percent said they trusted President Obama more. Eleven percent said they had no opinion.

Obama is running scared.

Nationman said:
do you like talking about giant d*cks? I get that impression from your post.

Check out my avatar…there’s two of the biggest d*cks going…and you’re the one loving Obama acting like a d*ck, not me.

jddoubleu said:
something tells me you and you libpussy friends here wont be the ones paying those extra taxes… since i will be, why the f*ck should i care what you losers think? you dont have any skin in the game…

you really like making assumptions don’t you?

OxyCon said:
Well…it does if you like your President to act like a giant d*ck. And we all know the Obama media loves them some Obama d*ck.

Are you angry that you are finding out he’s all Clark Kent and no Superman?

I took him seriously until I started looking at the numbers of his “Roadmap”. His budget plan wasn’t any better. The “media” as you refer to so derisively could not stop talking about his “courage” for about a week. After a week the numbers started tumbling out and they all said, “Oh. Dammit.”

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
A plurality of Americans trust the Republican congressional leadership more than they trust President Barack Obama to handle the federal deficit and the debt ceiling, according to a new Gallup poll. A majority of Americans are also more concerned that the government will raise the debt ceiling without plans for major spending cuts than they are that the government will precipitate a major economic crisis if it does not raise the debt limit. Only 22 percent of Americans, according to Gallup, say they want their member of Congress to vote to raise the debt ceiling. Between July 7-10, Gallup interviewed 1,016 adults for the poll. Respondents were asked: “Who do you trust more to handle the issues concerning the federal budget deficit and the federal debt ceiling President Obama (or) the Republican leaders in Congress?” Forty-six percent said they trusted the Republican leaders in Congress more, and 43 percent said they trusted President Obama more. Eleven percent said they had no opinion. Obama is running scared.

sampling error of 4 percent….just sayin.

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Nationman said:
you really like making assumptions don’t you?

wow good one…

Oxycon if Paul Ryan has guts as you say then why are they leaving this debt ceiling up to Obama. This is unprecedented and has never been done before. None of them have guts if they did they wouldn’t be caving as we speak.

Nationman said:
reagan signed the largest tax increase in history. Do you know why? it was as a comprimise. That’s how politics works. one side gives something and then the other does. That way there’s not this crazy amount of gridlock.

NO compromise this time, Pal! It is either Constitutional free enterprise, or, Socialism. Winner, take all.

Also, you’re forgetting Reagan made a deal with the Democrats, who failed to meet their end of the bargain. Typical!

purveyor said:
NO compromise this time, Pal! It is either Constitutional free enterprise, or, Socialism. Winner, take all. Also, you’re forgetting Reagan made a deal with the Democrats, who failed to meet their end of the bargain. Typical!

and this is why the republicans will fail in 2012.

jddoubleu said:
wow good one…

about as good as some idiot complaining about taxes. My guess is that when the foodstamps stop coming to your house you’ll stop.

Apparently Obama threatened to “go to the American people”.

AARGH! I wish he would just go away.

OxyCon said:
Check out my avatar…there’s two of the biggest d*cks going…and you’re the one loving Obama acting like a d*ck, not me.

more d*ck comments. i’m noticing a pattern.

Again, 0bomber is being “kind of a dick”.

-0bama – The Spoiled Brat president-

OK. We really don’t have a two party system, it’s really one big party that allows itself to be manipulated by the lobbyists and their masters. As there were always a few decent Democrats, there were also a number of high grade Republicans to keep a check on things. All that has changed as the Republican Party has been completely taken over by rightwing ideologues. The clearest indication of the rightward slide of our country is the disparity of incomes. You have to go back well over a hundred years to the time of the “Robber Barons” who were running this country until the great liberal Republican Teddy Roosevelt told them they would have to break up their monopolies and let other people have a chance at making money. – share the wealth. It’s obvious when you have vast concentrations of wealth you have less democracy. Is that hard to understand.
No one begrudges the rich their wealth. Hell, I’m a real estate broker and always want to make more money. But, really, the rich must pay their fair share, and they aren’t. Without us and the structure our wonderful country provides to ambitious people, the very rich wouldn’t be very rich. After all, we’re their support system.
As I read the comments from rightwingers on this blog and elsewhere I’m really concerned about your grasp of reality. Do you really think that the Tea Party, Bachmann, Cantor, Palin, et al could for a moment run this country? All their greedy trickle down policies have failed. Bush ran this country into the ground. It wasn’t all his fault. He just facilitated a rapid decline. His replacement, Obama, is a clever, talented man trying in an equitable fashion to work things out in a surprisingly nonpartisan way. Of course, you violently disagree. He’s a moron, community organizer, unqualified, unpatriotic, wimp, socialist, and worse. He already has a legacy and while it’s not yet great, it’s already a lot better than that of his predecessor. Sadly, the rightwing has become the lackeys of the oligarchic class, our modern kings and royalty. I thought we rebelled against the British, the symbol being the real Tea Party in Boston harbor.
What’s going on with Rupert Murdoch is also a sign of the waning of the right. Murdoch is a media genius whose meglomania got the best of him. The unravelling of his empire is just beginning. He’s freaked out the British by his very ungentlemanly and sleazy code of ethics and it’s a wake up call for what he’s done in this country through his media outlets. I realize that talking to the rightwing people who inhabit this website is almost futile, but, hopefully, a few of you are catching on to what’s really happening. The rightwing resurgence seems to be winding down.

Greg said:
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The grand lesson from this period is that fundamentalism runs at odds with civic obligation in a modern Republic. The Teavangelicals are true believers, unafraid of worldly consequence and convinced that textual truths provide divine reward. They are unfit to govern all but a summer picnic, able to manage the revenues of a dunk tank and organize a raffle for the grandmothers between careful recitations of bronze age poetry.

Shouldn’t you have quotation marks around this piece? Maybe even post the authors name?

insideguy said:
Oxycon if Paul Ryan has guts as you say then why are they leaving this debt ceiling up to Obama. This is unprecedented and has never been done before. None of them have guts if they did they wouldn’t be caving as we speak.

Paul Ryan presented a budget plan that would right the sinking ship. Obama on the other hand gave a speech in which he acted like a giant d*ck, not a budget plan.

Most people would equate the man who came up with a debt solving plan as the man with the guts and the man who threw a passive aggressive hissy fit wrapped in a condescending speech a gutless d*ck.

Nationman said:
about as good as some idiot complaining about taxes. My guess is that when the foodstamps stop coming to your house you’ll stop.

your debate skills are amazing!! you clearly come from the upper income bracket…

“This matches the Politico report, in which one official described the speech as “incredible.” ”

Frances, if all there was to being President was making speeches, Obama would be ready for Mt. Rushmore. He has been a sorry President, but he’s been a speech maker par excellence.

Ive spoke about this before Oxycon and not sure why you are resorting to calling the president crude names. That being said Ryan came up with a plan big deal. He knew it woudnt pass through the senate so it makes him look good in tea party eyes but does absolutely nothing. Its easy to have guts coming up with a plan that you know that wont pass. Real guts is coming up with a plan that everyone would agree to. Where is his guts now? He and his cohorts are caving to Obama and want to give him even more power than he has already its so dumb its funny. That isn’t guts in my book , thats being cowardly.

purveyor said:
Shouldn’t you have quotation marks around this piece? Maybe even post the authors name?

You truly are a creeper… And you linger oddly. Not sure why you continue to address me when I show such consistent disinterest. Those words need no attribution beyond the attachment to my name.

insideguy said:
Oxycon if Paul Ryan has guts as you say then why are they leaving this debt ceiling up to Obama. This is unprecedented and has never been done before. None of them have guts if they did they wouldn’t be caving as we speak.

Doesn’t the President have to sign any Bill, despite its origin? Ergo, if the president doesn’t sign, the onus is on him?

purveyor said:
Shouldn’t you have quotation marks around this piece? Maybe even post the authors name?

Greg really writes like that.

Greg said:
You truly are a creeper… And you linger oddly. Not sure why you continue to address me when I show such consistent disinterest. Those words need no attribution beyond the attachment to my name.

I do not care if you respond, or not. I will continue to post my opinion and/or critique.

Furthermore, I don’t believe you.

So you agree with the congress relinquishing its responsibilities and handing over this decision to Obama purveyor?

david r said:
Greg really writes like that.

I am aware of that, however, that piece is different.

david r said:
Greg really writes like that.

Thank’s David, but Purveyor likes to promote the claim that I am a dishonest thief of words and ideas… Hence my rather harsh response to him… He lingers and snipes.

insideguy said:
Ive spoke about this before Oxycon and not sure why you are resorting to calling the president crude names. That being said Ryan came up with a plan big deal. He knew it woudnt pass through the senate so it makes him look good in tea party eyes but does absolutely nothing. Its easy to have guts coming up with a plan that you know that wont pass. Real guts is coming up with a plan that everyone would agree to. Where is his guts now? He and his cohorts are caving to Obama and want to give him even more power than he has already its so dumb its funny. That isn’t guts in my book , thats being cowardly.

Mark Halperin is the one who precisely said that Obama acted like a d*ck (MessNBC sure did disappear him, didn’t they?). Now it’s painfully obvious to everyone when Obama acts like one. It’s a meme. The guy does act quite frequently like someone most people would call a d*ck.
As far as Ryan is concerned, your free to believe whatever you want about him. Your idea of a man with guts is way different then mine, as you’ve demonstrated many times. Frankly I’m really confused about you being a Police officer because in my mind you certainly don’t fit the profile based on the political views you espouse on the Internet. Don’t take that personal, cuz I’m not slamming you.

insideguy said:
So you agree with the congress relinquishing its responsibilities and handing over this decision to Obama purveyor?

The flow chart on the making of, and signing of a BIll, requires the President sign all Bills. Unless, there is an override. Hence Congress is relinquishing nothing. That is the process?

I wish Cantor would have decked that scrawny wimp.

Nationman said:
more d*ck comments. i’m noticing a pattern.

For all you know I might be a gay man, you on the other hand are making it pretty obvious that you’re bigoted against gays, aren’t you?

Lol no Oxycon your stereotyping me beyond belief. Im in a union that is being systematically attacked and torn apart by conservatives in my town. Why would I not be a democrat? And if you think that all police officers are conservatives simply because they see social problems that you consider the liberals fault you are sadly mistaken. What I have witnesses is dealing with the working poor who have no safety net no health insurance and no way to make any. What I have seen is a greater and greater separation between the rich and poor the largest in the world the de unionization of american which in tern has caused our middle class to struggle and the wage gap to grow even larger. What do republicans have to offer me? Tougher gun control laws? No. Harsher sentences for criminals? No? They want dismantle my union and make me as poor as the people I deal with on a daily basis.

Bill Adkins said:
Waivers – temporary cushions only available until 2014 – they’re not permanent. Why don’t you bring up something that you can intelligently converse about?

How many companies requesting waivers is an indication of the reform plan’s flaws? 5, 10, 15 or 2000? It means that this law is leading to significant increases in premiums and significant decreases in access to benifits.
If you believe these some of these waivers won’t become permanent you’re on crack, especially the union Cadillac plans.
This just shows how inept this administration is with the detail. Closing Gitmo, vetting tax cheats, rushing stimulus,budgets,healthcare, web crashing Cash for Clunkers where dealers threatened to pull the plug. How many mortgage modification programs already? And at what cost?
Blame the Republicans all you want but the 1st two years he had everything. Now we’re under the gun again so maybe you can tell me what his plan is in DETAIL.

purveyor said:
Shouldn’t you have quotation marks around this piece? Maybe even post the authors name?

While I don’t find his writing particularly impressive (he utilizes half a page while saying nothing), I see where you would confuse his musings for something that belongs on a blog and not in a comment section. There really isn’t a need to whip out a thesaurus and act as if you are constructing a research paper every time you respond on Mediaite. I’ve rarely read anything that he’s said that made me think, “he’s got a point”, because it is basically all convoluted nonsense. Sometimes he’ll post a couple of links telling us how phenomenal his data are and how we are all idiots for not understanding his brilliant analysis.

Oh and purveyor to answer your questions about my firearms from a previous post. My duty weapon is a glock 40 caliber. I own a smith and wesson 9 mm. Also Ive been issued a AR 15 and a 12 gage shotgun but the shotgun just shoots beanbags. I had one that shot buck and slugs but the ar 15 fits that role now.. I like the glock it does what its supposed to do and doesn’t require much maintenance and clueing.

cleaning that is:)

insideguy said:
Lol no Oxycon your stereotyping me beyond belief. Im in a union that is being systematically attacked and torn apart by conservatives in my town. Why would I not be a democrat? And if you think that all police officers are conservatives simply because they see social problems that you consider the liberals fault you are sadly mistaken. What I have witnesses is dealing with the working poor who have no safety net no health insurance and no way to make any. What I have seen is a greater and greater separation between the rich and poor the largest in the world the de unionization of american which in tern has caused our middle class to struggle and the wage gap to grow even larger. What do republicans have to offer me? Tougher gun control laws? No. Harsher sentences for criminals? No? They want dismantle my union and make me as poor as the people I deal with on a daily basis.

I’ve read nothing about any Police unions losing benefits. If your town is having revenue problems due to the horrible Obama economy, then aren’t you Democrats always talking about “shared sacrifice”? I’d been in a union for 10 years and I saw all the lazy bums with seniority sitting on their asses doing nothing all day long for years…and getting 30 hours of overtime each week to boot! Unions are their own worst enemies and what is happening to them today is long overdue.
I’ve also spent alot of years on the streets of one of the poorest urban cities in the country and all of my customers got either free or extremely inexpensive health care at the local clinics that were conveniently located throughout all the neighborhoods. As a matter of fact, most of my clients who were on welfare and foodstamps had more disposable income then I did at the time. That’s not hyperbole either, but fact.

LoyalOpposition said:

While I don’t find his writing particularly impressive (he utilizes half a page while saying nothing), I see where you would confuse his musings for something that belongs on a blog and not in a comment section. There really isn’t a need to whip out a thesaurus and act as if you are constructing a research paper every time you respond on Mediaite. I’ve rarely read anything that he’s said that made me think, “he’s got a point”, because it is basically all convoluted nonsense. Sometimes he’ll post a couple of links telling us how phenomenal his data are and how we are all idiots for not understanding his brilliant analysis.

LOYAL OPPOSITION,

GREG and I got into a real push and shove match about a week ago. Dueling thesauri at light speed. LOL Anyway, GREG, indeed, writes well, however, he is not prone to metaphor or allegory as that paragraph contains.

It seems you have noticed this also? Maybe, kind of?

Anyway, the truth is that this a vestige of our previous fight, so to speak.

Thank you

put the smackdown President Obama …. just like you did to Osama

koolmoedee said:
put the smackdown President Obama …. just like you did to Osama

That was no smackdown. It was a drive-by.

If we know one thing it’s that -0bama was bluffing. What else can be determined by the words “Don’t call my bluff?”

I haven’t had a raise in four years Oxy thats two years of Bush and Two years of Obama. Don’t get me wrong I make decent money but we are constantly fighting for this decent money. And how do these poor people get inexpensive health insurance at clinics? Who pays for that? You? Bill Gates? How about medicad a govt run health care program the same type of program that takes care of the veterans you respect so much.

And if you think police officers aren’t losing jobs and benefits as we speak just google it then you will hear about it.

insideguy said:

Oh and purveyor to answer your questions about my firearms from a previous post. My duty weapon is a glock 40 caliber. I own a smith and wesson 9 mm. Also Ive been issued a AR 15 and a 12 gage shotgun but the shotgun just shoots beanbags. I had one that shot buck and slugs but the ar 15 fits that role now.. I like the glock it does what its supposed to do and doesn’t require much maintenance and clueing.

Go over to the Thread about the guy shooting himself on his leg. Watch the video. BUT, read my Posts as they desribe a couple of times I had to draw a firearm, but not use. One was at 10,000 feet, in country and a guy pulled a knife! Fortunately I had my Winchester 1300 with slugs. He put the knife away. LOL

OxyCon said:
Unions are their own worst enemies and what is happening to them today is long overdue.

You are correct.

Any of Cyber Chums, purely for entertainment, watch that video of the guy shooting himself. Then read my Posts. Conlict seems to follow me around! LOL

Ill check it out. Slugs are devastating I wouldn’t want any part of that:)

HEY X3

Always nice to see you. I read your Posts. seems we have similar interests…

insideguy said:
Oh and purveyor to answer your questions about my firearms from a previous post. My duty weapon is a glock 40 caliber. I own a smith and wesson 9 mm. Also Ive been issued a AR 15 and a 12 gage shotgun but the shotgun just shoots beanbags. I had one that shot buck and slugs but the ar 15 fits that role now.. I like the glock it does what its supposed to do and doesn’t require much maintenance and clueing.

I have the classic S&W .357 Magnum. I think low-tech with firearms.

Oh by the way Oxycon you and Bill Gates do pay for their health insurance its called socialized medicine.

catfishjuggling show said:
You hillbillies

Something wrong with hillbillies you flatlander knownothing? Just because we’re going to run your Messiah back to Chitown there’s no need to attack us for recognizing that he is either grossly incompetent or a traitor.

So its he said she said? Its interesting to see all the partisan sheep formulating their own narratives. I feel bad for them.

insideguy said:
I haven’t had a raise in four years Oxy thats two years of Bush and Two years of Obama. Don’t get me wrong I make decent money but we are constantly fighting for this decent money. And how do these poor people get inexpensive health insurance at clinics? Who pays for that? You? Bill Gates? How about medicad a govt run health care program the same type of program that takes care of the veterans you respect so much.

The clinics are staffed by decent Doctors who volunteer their time. Works as a tax right off for them. The unskilled staffers don’t make much money. It sounds like your community is having revenue problems. Where I live they’re always playing around with the number of full time Police officers and part timers in order not to go over budget. The union I was in was a manufacturing one and it was disgraceful, to be honest. Think this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzyRjX_pX5c. That was the norm every day of the week.

Probably a good idea david thats why I have nothing on my AR except a sling and iron sites ,no fancy aim points scopes or lasers that means when I deploy it nothing will not work.

Free clinics alone cannot provide advanced health care for our citizens Oxycon, and you know that. Once again I ask you if socialized medicine is so bad why has not one conservative brought up getting rid of it for our veterans. Not one,never ever. If its so bad why would they not get rid of it? So its good enough for them(or not im confused) but not good enough for our average working poor? Please enlighten me on this.

Vaya con Dios, Amigos

And all communities are having revenue problems. I live in a city of 600000 people. Well maybe not all I suppose the super rich communities don’t, but even they must have been affected by this recession somewhat.

purveyor said:
HEY X3

Always nice to see you. I read your Posts. seems we have similar interests…

Spaseba droog! I enjoy reading your posts and believe we do have some common interests. Keep up the good work.

jddoubleu said:
your debate skills are amazing!! you clearly come from the upper income bracket…

your wit is so damn sharp.

david r said:
That was no smackdown. It was a drive-by.

It was success – you know, like Bush never had.

OxyCon said:
For all you know I might be a gay man, you on the other hand are making it pretty obvious that you’re bigoted against gays, aren’t you?

just pointing out an obvious pattern. You could be a logcabin republican, but i’m pretty sure I’ve seen you do that whole social conservative thing, probably just stuck in the closet. Do what feels right.

david r said:
I have the classic S&W .357 Magnum. I think low-tech with firearms.

Is it a Model 27? I owned one once and traded it. The 27 has a unique bark.

insideguy said:
Free clinics alone cannot provide advanced health care for our citizens Oxycon, and you know that. Once again I ask you if socialized medicine is so bad why has not one conservative brought up getting rid of it for our veterans. Not one,never ever. If its so bad why would they not get rid of it? So its good enough for them(or not im confused) but not good enough for our average working poor? Please enlighten me on this.

You can’t plainly see that one group of people earned their benefit while the other did not?

Nationman said:
just pointing out an obvious pattern. You could be a logcabin republican, but i’m pretty sure I’ve seen you do that whole social conservative thing, probably just stuck in the closet. Do what feels right.

lol. I don’t care what sexual orientation anyone is. Just don’t shove it in my face, engage in public indecency and behave like you’re part of radical group intent on destroying traditional institutions when you are a nothing but a small demographic.

Ohh so socialized medicine for veterans is good then Oxy? Because they earned it? Ok well at least I know where you stand. You have to earn inferior evil government run healthcare hmmmmm.

Mr. President…unite us…unite us like you promised hundreds of times during your campaign.  Unite us the way Reagan united us…by compromising.  You, as President, need to compromise with the other side of the aisle like Reagan did.  You have to do it…you promised.

Yea Dem4ever the difference is Reagan had a congress that was willing to compromise,not a brain dead tea party influenced mob.

Looks like barry is really getting his feathers ruffled. He is accustomed to having things go rather smoothly for himself but I do believe he better get used to it and thicken up that skin a bit.

insideguy said:
And all communities are having revenue problems. I live in a city of 600000 people. Well maybe not all I suppose the super rich communities don’t, but even they must have been affected by this recession somewhat.

Yeah, I kind of got the impression you were urban. Bet things would be alot better in your community if you had more taxpayers to fund your salary and benefits.

OxyCon said:
lol. I don’t care what sexual orientation anyone is. Just don’t shove it in my face, engage in public indecency and behave like you’re part of radical group intent on destroying traditional institutions when you are a nothing but a small demographic.

ahh, so engaging in said traditional institutions is destroying them. what exactly is the legal argument here?

Dem4Ever said:
Mr. President…unite us…unite us like you promised hundreds of times during your campaign.  Unite us the way Reagan united us…by compromising.  You, as President, need to compromise with the other side of the aisle like Reagan did.  You have to do it…you promised.

i think he’s offered compromise and it’s been rejected time and again. Take the healthcare law, he took a bill that was originally made by republicans and they still fought every inch of the way.

insideguy said:
Ohh so socialized medicine for veterans is good then Oxy? Because they earned it? Ok well at least I know where you stand. You have to earn inferior evil government run healthcare hmmmmm.

It’s a whole lot more complex then how you’re characterizing it, isn’t it?

OxyCon said:
You can’t plainly see that one group of people earned their benefit while the other did not?

i thought government healthcare was inferior to regular healthcare.

Yea Oxy or maybe they would be better if the local govt politicians had the balls to raise some taxes on the people who most benefit from my services and can afford it. I have a republican governor a republican mayor and a republican sheriff. Funny since they have been in office things haven’t improved much I wonder why.

Nationman said:
ahh, so engaging in said traditional institutions is destroying them. what exactly is the legal argument here?

I believe “traditional” is the key word here.

OxyCon said:
I believe “traditional” is the key word here.

of course a straight christian white couple. Is that what you meant?

OxyCon said:
I believe “traditional” is the key word here.

i’m just wondering, do you consider it traditional to divorce en masse as the american people have?

insideguy said:
Yea Oxy or maybe they would be better if the local govt politicians had the balls to raise some taxes on the people who most benefit from my services and can afford it. I have a republican governor a republican mayor and a republican sheriff. Funny since they have been in office things haven’t improved much I wonder why.

That’s a really interesting way to put things…”raise taxes on the people who most benefit from my services”. Can you explain that to me how that works?

OxyCon said:
I believe “traditional” is the key word here.

also how does it ruin the institution to allow two people who love each other to marry?

Not really Oxy its total socialized medicine something which you detest. But I guess you don’t detest it if you earn it. See this is the kicker. Conservatives do support socialized medicine but don’t even know it. It goes back to the my welfare is good yours is bad mentality. Let me tell you a story. I was just over a house the other day. There was an old man with who had obvious mental problems and was very sick. He was sitting in a chair pissing and crapping his pants and had no family around to support him. Who do you think is gonna take care of this man? You? Rush Limbaugh? A church? No the state moved in and took over and got him into a home for the elderly and infirm. Thats called socialism sir and thats what we pay taxes for. Its not evil its good. I can tell you a thousand other stories like that.

Nationman said:
of course a straight christian white couple. Is that what you meant?

lol, that’s funny how you bring race into the argument as if no other race on earth believes in marriage when all races and cultures do.
Can you point me to any “race”, culture, country in our world’s history that has ever had marriages outside of the traditional norm, polygamy excluded? I’d like to learn more about man’s ancient history and where in recorded history it was considered tradition for same sex marriages. Keep in mind that I am for civil unions with equal benefit from the government.

Because I protect them and their property and they have more to steal than a bum on the street Oxy. They have clout with the local politicians and when a crime happens to them we work harder to solve it. I know it sounds crazy but its true. So they benefit more from my services than the poor working stiff living in a 70,000 dollar home. Thats how things work out here in the real world. But the percentage of taxes Mr. Rich guy pays aint much more than poor working stiff. Thereby maybe the rich guy should pay a little more see how that goes?

OxyCon said:
lol, that’s funny how you bring race into the argument as if no other race on earth believes in marriage when all races and cultures do.
Can you point me to any “race”, culture, country in our world’s history that has ever had marriages outside of the traditional norm, polygamy excluded? I’d like to learn more about man’s ancient history and where in recorded history it was considered tradition for same sex marriages. Keep in mind that I am for civil unions with equal benefit from the government.

that’s just it, until recently there were no laws against a child marrying an adult. Obviously some moral boundaries have changed.

Nationman said:
that’s just it, until recently there were no laws against a child marrying an adult. Obviously some moral boundaries have changed.

by recently i mean in the last 200 something years.

insideguy said:
Not really Oxy its total socialized medicine something which you detest. But I guess you don’t detest it if you earn it. See this is the kicker. Conservatives do support socialized medicine but don’t even know it. It goes back to the my welfare is good yours is bad mentality. Let me tell you a story. I was just over a house the other day. There was an old man with who had obvious mental problems and was very sick. He was sitting in a chair pissing and crapping his pants and had no family around to support him. Who do you think is gonna take care of this man? You? Rush Limbaugh? A church? No the state moved in and took over and got him into a home for the elderly and infirm. Thats called socialism sir and thats what we pay taxes for. Its not evil its good. I can tell you a thousand other stories like that.

Pretty sad that you live in such a blighted area where no decent people volunteer to help the disadvantaged and they have to rely on shitty government care. Where I live, people like me stock the shelves with food and volunteer our time at the local Red Cross homeless shelter and Catholic Social Services. I give my money and time of my own volition and no one forces me to volunteer or involuntarily takes money from my wallet.

Its called the real world Oxy maybe you should try and live in it one day and you may change your views on things. And you may think its shitty govt care, but its the only care they got. You cant take care of this man and neither can the red cross he needs 24/ 7 support and unless your community is filled with Mother Terresas with nothing but time and good will on their hands they cant take care of him either.

Cantor is projecting again.

Democratic sources claim the President left when the meeting was over and “lit up” Rep. Cantor so badly “if the public saw, Obama would win in a landslide.”

Yeah Right! If he can speak so well off the cuff, then do it! In front of the American people without a tele-prompter, without the sarcasm, without all the cliches. More like a tantrum followed by a long winded lecture with no solutions. Lead Mr. President, stop complaining and do your job. You have the WH, you had both houses but you were more concerned with overhauling our entire healthcare system, (something that with all due respect could have waited) when you should have been addressing more pressing matters to the financial restitution of our nation.
If this was the greatest recession since the greatest depression, as Obama was so fond of saying then why wait almost 3 years into the presidency to address it ? Does everything have to be a crisis or is that the only way he can appear to be “presidential”?

Nationman said:
that’s just it, until recently there were no laws against a child marrying an adult. Obviously some moral boundaries have changed.

Yeah, in our enlightened society marrying adolescent girls is a form of perversion, but in backwards cultures that haven’t evolved they consider dumping a girl on someone else a relief of the burden of having to feed her. But they don’t do same sex marriages. They’d hang the boys/men who tried to do that.

If the gay activists in this country pushed for civil unions, as I did when I supported John Kerry in 2004, I’d have no beef. But I think many gay activists behaved like a bunch of jaggoffs, to be blunt, and wanted gay marriage because they loathe God and Christians and wanted to deliberately cause damage to traditional marriage as a big FU to the people they hate.

Dem4Ever said:
Mr. President…unite us…unite us like you promised hundreds of times during your campaign.  Unite us the way Reagan united us…by compromising.  You, as President, need to compromise with the other side of the aisle like Reagan did.  You have to do it…you promised.

Reagan never faced this type of opposition. Back then congressmen were willing to compromise and work together as adults. As Mitch McConnell has said more than once his job is to keep Obama from getting relected. How many Democrats said that about Reagan?? The answer is none. That is the type of Republican mindset Obama is dealing with. The Republican logic is screw the economy, screw you and me, screw anything that gets in the way of the Republican main mission of keeping Obama out of the White House in 2012.

I don’t care what you think of Obama, but for Republicans to blatantly stand in the way and not be willing to work with a President the majority elected is beyond anything I have witness in my life time.

Where in the bible does it say and adult man cant marry a teenage girl? Who made these laws and morals? Ohh i guess that would be our society and our evil government who had that authority.

OxyCon said:
Yeah, in our enlightened society marrying adolescent girls is a form of perversion, but in backwards cultures that haven’t evolved they consider dumping a girl on someone else a relief of the burden of having to feed her. But they don’t do same sex marriages. They’d hang the boys/men who tried to do that.

If the gay activists in this country pushed for civil unions, as I did when I supported John Kerry in 2004, I’d have no beef. But I think many gay activists behaved like a bunch of jaggoffs, to be blunt, and wanted gay marriage because they loathe God and Christians and wanted to deliberately cause damage to traditional marriage as a big FU to the people they hate.

so you believe that every single gay person is like that? riiiiiiiiiiight. what you’re saying of course is that we should be as “enlightened” as they and not allow gays to marry. why are we using their culture as a model for morality again?

insideguy said:
Its called the real world Oxy maybe you should try and live in it one day and you may change your views on things. And you may think its shitty govt care, but its the only care they got. You cant take care of this man and neither can the red cross he needs 24/ 7 support and unless your community is filled with Mother Terresas with nothing but time and good will on their hands they cant take care of him either.

Please, you act as if I sit around at the country club all day eating tiny sandwiches while drinking sherry all day long, lol. I made most of my meager pittance on my hands and knees the blue collar way. And trust me, that unfortunate person you’re concerned about was most likely released soon after they cleaned him up and he’s struggling to survive hidden away in some other slum right now if he isn’t already dead. That sounds “real worldly”, doesn’t it? Funny thing is, back before the days of personal income taxes, we used to have government funded homes for crazy people and those who can’t take care of themselves. But now we can’t afford them. What happened?

OxyCon said:
Please, you act as if I sit around at the country club all day eating tiny sandwiches while drinking sherry all day long, lol. I made most of my meager pittance on my hands and knees the blue collar way. And trust me, that unfortunate person you’re concerned about was most likely released soon after they cleaned him up and he’s struggling to survive hidden away in some other slum right now if he isn’t already dead. That sounds “real worldly”, doesn’t it? Funny thing is, back before the days of personal income taxes, we used to have government funded homes for crazy people and those who can’t take care of themselves. But now we can’t afford them. What happened?

we got smarter and realized that in most of those homes they treated people terribly.

Before the days of personal income tax that man would have been dead on the street in a ditch. You think things were all hunky dory and people took care of people and lived in harmony? What planet do you live on? All of the social services you see today Oxy were a result of society trying to solve problems like this man I dealt with the other day. They didn’t just come out of the blue. Now you could argue that there is waste fraud and mismanagement in these services and I would agree. But to say that they are all bad is not being honest. You think social security was just invented and old people had it good back in 1910? You think medicare and medicaid was invented even thought everyone had good inexpensive healthcare back in 1965?

Nationman said:
so you believe that every single gay person is like that? riiiiiiiiiiight. what you’re saying of course is that we should be as “enlightened” as they and not allow gays to marry. why are we using their culture as a model for morality again?

No, I explicitly mentioned “gay activists”.

And see if you can follow the conversation here. You asked me questions. I tried my best to represent where I’m at on the subject and now you seem to be veering in different directions simply to try and make me look bad. You keep interjecting things which are liberal boilerplate stereotypes for the people you disagree with like how from out of left field you brought race into the conversation and now talking about adopting third world morality in our society when I’ve never mentioned anywhere that I ever even thought about that.

insideguy said:
Before the days of personal income tax that man would have been dead on the street in a ditch. You think things were all hunky dory and people took care of people and lived in harmony? What planet do you live on? All of the social services you see today Oxy were a result of society trying to solve problems like this man I dealt with the other day. They didn’t just come out of the blue. Now you could argue that there is waste fraud and mismanagement in these services and I would agree. But to say that they are all bad is not being honest. You think social security was just invented and old people had it good back in 1910? You think medicare and medicaid was invented even thought everyone had good inexpensive healthcare back in 1965?

forgive him, he doesn’t read up about the company stores or the dams, canals and roads built on the bodies of immigrants for pennies a day. he thinks the free market took care of all those problems.

OxyCon said:
No, I explicitly mentioned “gay activists”.
. You keep interjecting things which are liberal boilerplate stereotypes for the people you disagree with like how from out of left field you brought race into the conversation and now talking about adopting third world morality in our society when I’ve never mentioned anywhere that I ever even thought about that.

you were talking about how there has never been a society in the past that has had gay marriage. I was merely pointing out that using past societies as a model for morality for these, and this is your word here, “enlightened” times is foolish.

And exactly Nationman. This asylums were horrible. They chained people up the strapped them down, they injected them with unapproved drugs and they lobotomized them. Was that better Oxy? Do you know how much money it cost in drugs to take care of bi polar or schizophrenic patient these days Oxy? Do you think these people can have normal jobs and live normal lives not supported by some type of govt assistance? No amount of charitable dollars is going to completely cover them. They need your help in the form of your tax dollars Oxy. And one reason why we have such a problem with the mentally ill is that the services that were there to support them have been slashed and burned in the name of cutting govt spending.

insideguy said:
All of the social services you see today Oxy were a result of society trying to solve problems like this man I dealt with the other day.

Big FAIL in that guy’s case then, ey?
Here’s a hypothetical that is rapidly advancing into reality: “Do you think all the poor, disadvantaged people in America will have it better AFTER the country ceases to exist because we bankrupted ourselves trying to support everyone”? Cuz after the sh*t hits the fan and our country crumbles under the weight of our debt, WE’RE all going to be that guy you picked up crapping himself.
I’d love it if everyone had it as good as Bill Gates, but right at this moment I’m more concerned about the future of the country. We’ve gone through some really hard times in this country that none of us have ever experienced before, and it looks like those bad days are right around the corner because of the bloated socialist programs. That’s my opinion.

Nationman said:
you were talking about how there has never been a society in the past that has had gay marriage. I was merely pointing out that using past societies as a model for morality for these, and this is your word here, “enlightened” times is foolish.

Hence, the word “traditional”, which you seem to have forgotten.

Yea but Oxy you need to put things into historical perspective. You think things are worse than ever before but that is patently untrue. Do we have a debt problem? Sure we do but its lower per the GDP than it was after world war 2. And we’ve managed since then. One of the things that drive me nuts about the conservative mentality is that you guys tend to look towards the past as if it was some sort of la la land where everyone danced and lived happy. Let me give you and example. When do you think was the highest murder rate for police officers? A good conservative would say well right now of course ,I read about cops getting killed every day. Well that is false. The 1920s were horrible for cops during prohibition the 60s 70s and 80s all had higher murder rates for cops. Id rather be a sheriff out here in the west today than back in 1875 let me tell you buddy. They were shot and killed like cattle back then. The murder rate in general is lower today than its been in 50 years. Back when there were no social services (aka the great depression) people died in the streets. Breadlines formed around corners, families were torn apart. During the dustbowl farms were blown away. We were involved in major wars form 1865 to 1965 were millions of men were killed and wounded. This doesn’t sound so great to me. I talk to my parents and grandparents and there stories about the good all days don’t sound all that good.

OxyCon said:
Hence, the word “traditional”, which you seem to have forgotten.

again what does that word mean? which traditions are we holding to? the religious traditions that allow kids to marry adults or some other traditions?

Nationman said:
forgive him, he doesn’t read up about the company stores or the dams, canals and roads built on the bodies of immigrants for pennies a day. he thinks the free market took care of all those problems.

lol, man you really jump to typical leftist talking points and stereotypes at the jump of a hat. I feel like I’m tying to have an adult conversation with a wind up MediaMatters talking doll.

Ten miles east of me is a famous company town. My great great great grandfather emigrated from Ireland, worked digging a canal and after it was finished operated a toll bridge over it.

What you two seem to be mistaking about my position is that somehow you’ve concluded that I think our glory days were in the past, when here in reality my position is strictly about our fiscal solvency, AS I’VE MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR to most people who aren’t deliberately taking everything I say out of context because you feel the need to vilify someone you think of as a teabagger.

Anyway, I’ve learned my lesson to just ignore you two like I’ve always done because I always considered responding to you guys as a giant waste of time. Now I’m bored with your game. Have a nice night and remember I’m an evil teabagger. I think I’m going to go out now and have a beer, then p*ss on some bum and then go punch a f*g (whoops did I say beer? I meant $350.00 dollar wine).

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Thats called you just lost the argument Oxy. I haven’t taken a word you have said out of context. Your the one with the stereotypes and not informed. Maybe you don’t hang out at a country club and sip wine and eat cheese but the way you talk it sounds as if you do. Sometimes I think a lot of you conservatives actually talk like you do hang out at country clubs but it is just a wish that you have. You think these republicans are going to make the average middle or lower class dudes life better. Thats the last thing they are interested in and its been that way for a long time. I don’t blame the rich guy for being a republican, what always has amazed me is the poor white working class guy who is fooled by them. They take advantage of him cause he thinks that these guys must be on my side cause socially I agree with what they say. Course he doesn’t know that actually they use the social politics as a way to fool him and that they really have no interest in social politics. All they want is to lower tax rates on the rich(cause after all they are the only ones who pay taxes right?) and make it better for them. One of the great lines you guys have for Obama is “hows that hope and change going for ya?” My response to that is how are those Bush Tax cuts going for you?

It’s likely that 0bomber had simply filled his pants and it was time for MOOCH-elle to change him.

-0bama – The Spoiled-Brat-In-Chief-

OxyCon said:
Yeah, in our enlightened society marrying adolescent girls is a form of perversion, but in backwards cultures that haven’t evolved they consider dumping a girl on someone else a relief of the burden of having to feed her. But they don’t do same sex marriages. They’d hang the boys/men who tried to do that. If the gay activists in this country pushed for civil unions, as I did when I supported John Kerry in 2004, I’d have no beef. But I think many gay activists behaved like a bunch of jaggoffs, to be blunt, and wanted gay marriage because they loathe God and Christians and wanted to deliberately cause damage to traditional marriage as a big FU to the people they hate.

Big FU right back at ya. Last time I talked to gay people about marriage they didn’t give a rat’s ass about the opinions of folks like yourselves, or god, or christians. They just wanted the same rights (not some subset of the same rights) that any other two consenting adults would have. Civil unions don’t cut it.

Also, if you can give one way in which extension of marriage rights to same-sex couples “damages” traditional marriage, you’ll be the first righty to do so.,

OxyCon said:
Please, you act as if I sit around at the country club all day eating tiny sandwiches while drinking sherry all day long, lol. I made most of my meager pittance on my hands and knees the blue collar way. And trust me, that unfortunate person you’re concerned about was most likely released soon after they cleaned him up and he’s struggling to survive hidden away in some other slum right now if he isn’t already dead. That sounds “real worldly”, doesn’t it? Funny thing is, back before the days of personal income taxes, we used to have government funded homes for crazy people and those who can’t take care of themselves. But now we can’t afford them. What happened?

You do realize that the federal income tax was instituted in 1913, nearly 100 years ago. Do you really think that government-funded institutions disappeared in 1913?

catfishjuggling show said:
You hillbillies would call him a badass if he had a R after his name and pulled this stunt.

This is a non-story, but it’ll get 473 comments coming up with clever ways to spell Obama.

No, D*CK works just fine.

Dem4Ever said:
Mr. President…unite us…unite us like you promised hundreds of times during your campaign.  Unite us the way Reagan united us…by compromising.  You, as President, need to compromise with the other side of the aisle like Reagan did.  You have to do it…you promised.

Impressive. You’ve taken an inoffensive concept like “piffle,” fed it steroids, and turned it into a ravening monster of animated bullshit.

You apparently didn’t notice that Obama spent the first two and half years of his administration attempting to find a way to compromise with the divas, nuts, and zealots on the right side of the aisle and they spent all that time hurling insults, bombs, and turds in his face. Mad people aren’t very good at compromise.

So now you blame wingnuts’ treason on Obama.

I can only come to one of two conclusions: 1) You have not been paying attention; or 2) You wouldn’t know reality if it shinnied up to your leg and bit your kneecap off.

Which is it?

Cantor is just whining because the President put him in his place.

Nationman said:
reagan signed the largest tax increase in history. Do you know why? it was as a comprimise. That’s how politics works. one side gives something and then the other does. That way there’s not this crazy amount of gridlock.

Did you mean compromise? Yes? Enough of this stale talking point, missing, is the fact that the democrats reneged on the “compromise” and did not institute the spending cuts they promised when that deal was made, did the same with GHWB 41 then turned around and hammered him with “read my lips” proving they are never to be trusted.

mediadoubt said:
You apparently didn’t notice that Obama spent the first two and half years of his administration attempting to find a way to compromise with the divas, nuts, and zealots on the right side of the aisle and they spent all that time hurling insults, bombs, and turds in his face.

No, I didn’t notice that at all. I noticed Obama not getting involved at all, except to proclaim “I won.” and otherwise leaving Pelosi and Reid to do all the work.

Yay!!! We’re finally getting to see that ‘Angry Black Man’ that Leftists desperately think will help their cause.

I’ve been waiting to see some visible sign of petulance from this little limp-wrist, and now we’re getting it. We’re ‘Sticking It To The Man’ and he doesn’t quite like it.

Oh, what a glorious 18 months we have before us! Eat your peas, Lefties; you need the energy!!!

This Republican congress will go down as the biggest Puss-ees ever in the history of the United States!

They will raise the debt ceiling just like their Wall Street Bosses tell them to and then they’ll run to the TeaBagger Cult and beg for forgiveness……What a complete and total joke these guys are!

This next year is going to be a beautiful thing watching them self-destruct!

Hugo Daun said:
Cantor is just whining because the President put him in his place.

It’s not possible he’s just saying what happened? Because, I mean, as far as Obama talking down to people as if he’s above it all never happens? C’mon guy get real! And as far as ideology goes, maybe he just opposes raising taxes while in a recession? You libs are so hard up for “fairness” your too dumb to realize what damages occure while seaking it.

Pablo said:
No, I didn’t notice that at all. I noticed Obama not getting involved at all, except to proclaim “I won.” and otherwise leaving Pelosi and Reid to do all the work.

Obamo’s famous for keeping his fingerprints off any crime scene…like this one. “Where’s Obamo’s plan?, everyone asks. “Where’s his budget?” Leftists have been particular about not presenting a budget.

The Obamo Regime: Criminal intent with particular care not to leave fingerprints.

Obamo is ready to self-ignite, and I want to be there to watch.

Obama is so fricking arrogant and narcisistic it is disturbing; this is what happens to empty suits whenthey are puffed up by a bunch of media sycophants. Just look at the idiot who interviewed Obama the other day, Pelly didn’t even bother to react to the President’s threat to withhold SS from seniors. nope, Scott set up the question, as he was directed to do so by this manchild.

What a sick and sorry world we live in when the media has completely abdicated its responsibility and does nothing more than sit and be his tool and his fool.

These are sad days for our country.

I wonder when the media will finally stand up and say: enough is enough. My guess is never, they have so dislodged themselves from reality by bending to HIS every wish and whim they are beyond help.

insideguy said:
They want dismantle my union and make me as poor as the people I deal with on a daily basis.

MY friend, Mi Amigo, Is this the origin of your concern? I did not notice this last nite?

The “compromise” talk is a bunch of nonsense. If a compromise would help you lose a war, would you do it or fight against it? Especially when you have the backing of the people! The last election seems to be getting ignored in all this and thats a farce. Republicans and the Tea Party won the biggest landslide in decades and it was soley for this reason, to defeat this far leftwing idiot in the White House.

Obama ask for “compromise” as if he doesn’t realize that would be directly against what got many of these people elected, getting them in trouble with their constituents? I mean I know he’s stupid, but dont you libs see this? Take your compromise and go to hell! This is ideological war and you need to lose and lose big!

Raising taxes on the rich has nothing to do with saving this country from the far left wing anti American scum of the earth. Just stop the madness and ridiculous spending and a little at a time as time goes on, just kick the bums out of office! Either all the democrats or RINO’s, just get rid of anyone who doesn’t get it.

JUST STOP the damn spending and realize the whole “Steal from the rich and give to the poor” via taxing concept is moronic, counter productive and not gonna work! The rich already pay way more then everyone else and a broke guy never gave anyone a job. Get over it libs! Your just stupid! Your whole ideology is childlike and dangerous.

grafxmail7 said:
This Republican congress will go down as the biggest Puss-ees ever in the history of the United States! They will raise the debt ceiling just like their Wall Street Bosses tell them to and then they’ll run to the TeaBagger Cult and beg for forgiveness……What a complete and total joke these guys are! This next year is going to be a beautiful thing watching them self-destruct!

Fact: Republicans don’t run to gay teabaggers like you democrats do. Lets make it simple for you morons out there. Cantor’s see’s this 1-1=0 balanced, 2-1=1 reducing of budget numbers and Obama see’s this raise debt ceiling 25 trillion – trying to find rich guys to steal from over ten years if they can find them that makes his hope and changy balanced budget numbers! Bluff my a$$ just being stuck on stupid like always.

Fact: Obama ran from room and played a quick eight holes of golf!

insideguy said:
Sure we do but its lower per the GDP than it was after world war 2. And we’ve managed since then.

We’ve managed to tax and regulate the industries that we desperately need to drag us out of this……showed them the door…….off shore. What we had then was the industrial revolution, we no longer have those big employers to save us, What we do have are more expensive, threatening regulations coming down the pike that will cost us dearly and you can thank Obama and his cronies for that. Now the idiots want to increase taxes too, just how stupid can they be?

Hugo Daun said:
Cantor is just whining because the President put him in his place.

Oh yes, last time we saw him he was running to Michelle to find out what he should do next! Piffle – Cantor was their and the Pres? Hiding under his bed. Someone dared to stand up to him and didn’t they know that the Republicans were not allowed to voice an opinion. Remember where we were supposed to sit?

their=there

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Obama ran from room and played a quick eight holes of golf!

It was a good thing to do. He made his point that he would not be bluffed, there was no more to discuss that day, and he did something relaxing. Perfect negotiation tactic. However, I do dispute your use of the word “ran.” As I understand it, he walked out as anyone would at the end of the session. He would have been a weak negotiator if he then disappeared from sight and fools like you could then imply that he was brooding in some dark room.

Devil's Spawn (formerly George L) said:
It was a good thing to do. He made his point that he would not be bluffed, there was no more to discuss that day, and he did something relaxing. Perfect negotiation tactic. However, I do dispute your use of the word “ran.” As I understand it, he walked out as anyone would at the end of the session. He would have been a weak negotiator if he then disappeared from sight and fools like you could then imply that he was brooding in some dark room.

Fact: No he’s a moron stuck on stupid and you are on his tit!

@Just4thefax,

Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! The brilliant logic of your argument is sooooooo convincing!

Did you check with your third grade son for the proper rhetoric?

Call his bluff. Pass a clean bill to raise the debt ceiling to cover deficit spending for the next 6 months. See if he has the stones to veto it.

Bill Adkins said:
It was success – you know, like Bush never had.

It was truly a smashing success. I loved it. I also liked the way he dropped a few on Khadaffi, too. The warlords over there fear him. This much Obama got right.

X-3 said:
Is it a Model 27? I owned one once and traded it. The 27 has a unique bark.

Yep. I love it at the range when someone next to me says “What’s that?”

The democrats are trumping this up because they desperately want the little guy to appear to be sooo tough……evidently they don’t believe he is so they resort. This was a sham, a clown show. It had the Reagan mention that prompted the nitwits to trot out their shiny new talking point, plenty of embellishment, ala his, ahem, “schooling Canter,” who has actually been in the trenches working, while the little guy played golf. This rediculous incident is the only transparent thing that bunch has managed to, heh, almost pull off. Yeah, they are serious about the debt ceiling, sure they are, snicker.

This says it all.. Obama said” This may bring my presidency own, but I will not yield on this.”

The state of the US should always be a President’s top priority, not his personal legacy.

Am I to believe the words of Eric “businesses started hiring because Republicans took control of Congress & don’t forget they shot through my window” Cantor? Face it, they don’t like the fact that Obama turned their bullshit back in their faces. He’s the only one actually trying to do something here while the Republicans are just playing games. If they were actually serious like they were under Clinton they’d enact tax increases along with entitlement reform. I suppose this is a new millennium “read my lips: no new taxes”.

Rio said:
The democrats are trumping this up because they desperately want the little guy to appear to be sooo tough……evidently they don’t believe he is so they resort. This was a sham, a clown show. It had the Reagan mention that prompted the nitwits to trot out their shiny new talking point, plenty of embellishment, ala his, ahem, “schooling Canter,” who has actually been in the trenches working, while the little guy played golf. This rediculous incident is the only transparent thing that bunch has managed to, heh, almost pull off. Yeah, they are serious about the debt ceiling, sure they are, snicker.

Translation: LONG ASS TALKING POINT BULLSHIT

grafxmail7 said:
This Republican congress will go down as the biggest Puss-ees ever in the history of the United States!

They will raise the debt ceiling just like their Wall Street Bosses tell them to and then they’ll run to the TeaBagger Cult and beg for forgiveness……What a complete and total joke these guys are!

This next year is going to be a beautiful thing watching them self-destruct!

Their Wall Street Bosses or the hypocrite in the WH?
So they are pusses if they do what the Dems want? If that is the case then I can see why they are so loathe to compromise considering how the Dems like to spend money they don’t have, Enjoy your new taxes.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Translation: LONG ASS TALKING POINT BULLSHIT

No talking points, no BS, just calling it for what it was. It would not surprise me at all if the next nonsense out of the dems mouths would be accusations of racism and spitting.

No matter how the press tries to spin this, and no matter how much the Dems try to look reasonable, the American people can do math, they are not about to over look the record spending, the record deficits, the accelerated growth of government, that has bought us nothing more than even more dysfunctionality. I think it is all very simple, if the republicans fold, they will not gain re-election and they know it.. The progressives out there can say how retarded that is, how backwards that is… But they would do well to get over it…. They may hold the Senate and the Executive, but they they have lost the support of the majority of the people in this country and regardless of what progressives would like to think this country is still right of center…. It is just a matter of time now.. there will be a deal as the Dems will cave because they know that they do not have popular support, they will then rant for the next year and a half, bloggers will go nuts about how corrupt the system is that allows pea brains to control it… but in the end, we will see many Dems not be invited to return to DC after the 2012 elections, and the world will be a better place.

I am mortified to live in the same state as Cry-Baby Cantor.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
He’s the only one actually trying to do something here while the Republicans are just playing games.

You know that thing he won’t yield on is a deal to get him through the election, right. That’s the thing he’s really trying to do. Republicans are trying to bring some sanity back to our ridiculously out of control spending. Obama’s trying to get reelected.

BTW, did you hear that Obama’s story about his poor sick mother being denied treatment by the big, bad insurance company was a bald faced lie?

Pablo said:
BTW, did you hear that Obama’s story about his poor sick mother being denied treatment by the big, bad insurance company was a bald faced lie?

Of course not becuase the Liberal media won’t tell them.

2012freedom said:
Of course not becuase the Liberal media won’t tell them.

Credit where it’s due, or, pigs can fly! That’s the New York Times.

To, DAVIDR

Did you notice when INSIDEGUY told me about his forearms, a curious transition took place? The intensity of the dialogue quieted and changed as, I believe, the subject changed to a “boys will be boys” topic! LOL

It was a needed calm for a minute or two from the main subject. Guns, a subject every little boy (many grown men) is/are intrigued by, myself included. (You brought up your .357, etc…)

Anyway, just an observation. A humorus observation.

Purveyor

Obama has lost his mind.

The_Reasonable_Lib:

Just exactly what is Obimbo trying to achieve? How is throwing a childish tantrum and leaving the talks productive?

CAconservative said:
The_Reasonable_Lib:

Just exactly what is Obimbo trying to achieve? How is throwing a childish tantrum and leaving the talks productive?

How do you KNOW that he “threw a childish tantrum”? Were you there? Did you see video evidence? Or, are you relying on Cantor’s biased excuse, trying to cover HIS ass?

purveyor said:
MY friend, Mi Amigo, Is this the origin of your concern? I did not notice this last nite?

After re-reading the blur of rather substantive Posts last night, yours included, I find that my question to you is an oversimplification.

You are concerned about ‘Public’ unions, however, you seem to almost overwhelmed by having your Country, which you love, so broken, in so many ways?

It does make it difficult to assuage your concerns or allay your fears. Sometimes I wonder who you are debating with, us or yourself? Affectionately and respectfully..

Purveyor

modans1955 said:
How do you KNOW that he “threw a childish tantrum”? Were you there? Did you see video evidence? Or, are you relying on Cantor’s biased excuse, trying to cover HIS ass?

You do appreciate the wording of Obama’s statement: “Don’t call my bluff!” Ergo, Obama is bluffing…

I haven’t been following this thread. Did I miss all the Liberals posting what a spoiled brat he was acting like, or how he just wanted to hold everyone hostage with his outbursts like they were saying about Republicans when they walked out? No? I didn’t think so.

Nope, Cantor has again behaved like a petulant three year old, running to mommy(the media)and telling his side of the story(a lie). If I were President, I’d make Cantor go outside and bring me a “switch” to beat his ass. Unfortunately, Obama has been far too civil with these republitards who seem bent on destroying not only the U.S. economy, but the world’s as well.

Hmmmm, just wanted to add to this substantive thread, since it is the WHITE HOUSE that will not allow cameras or transcripts to be provided, I will assume EVERYTHING that has been said to be truthful.

Hey OBAMA, want to play a game of Texas Holdem? No limit?

Dem4Ever said:
Obama has lost his mind.

You know, Amigo, at least he may be having regrets.

So, politicians throwing tantrums and both parties with their own rumors of what went down, I guess it’s all partly true and partly false.

2012, Obama will be upset……it’ll be one project that will be shovel ready…..LOL…

CAconservative says:
How is throwing a childish tantrum and leaving the talks productive?
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I know, right! Cantor and the other “teas” never should have stormed out of those meetings!

Heya Purveyor nope im not debating with myself. Im debating with people who over simplify everything and somehow come on here with talking points from the left and the right and spew them out like a paid blogger. I don’t mind a good complicated heartfelt argument but when people come on here and quote what they heard on Rush Limbaugh or Shawn Hannity it annoys me. Politics bothers me not so much as I believe that the democrats are better for this country than the republicans but that people like Oxy and their ilk don’t do the research on their own party. I can own up to the democrats mistakes and have many times. But to sit here and type blank obviously naive comments right out of the GOP bible is not real debate. I can sit here and say did you know that Reagan your hero almost quadrupled the budget deficit during his presidency? And instead of saying well yes I did know that ,or no i didn’t know that they just ignore it. How is that an honest debate? Its not and im sure you have run into these types on this board on my side many times as well so I hope you share my frustration:)

2012freedom said:
I haven’t been following this thread. Did I miss all the Liberals posting what a spoiled brat he was acting like, or how he just wanted to hold everyone hostage with his outbursts like they were saying about Republicans when they walked out? No? I didn’t think so.

Just because that’s neither true nor meaningful.

modan1955:

I’m relying on Mr.Cantor’s assessment of the situation. Your not suggesting I listen to any more of Obimbo’s lies are you?!

Dem4Ever said:
Obama has lost his mind.

Just out of curiousity, why is your screen Dem4Ever if you’re a Republican?

lane said:
This says it all.. Obama said” This may bring my presidency own, but I will not yield on this.” The state of the US should always be a President’s top priority, not his personal legacy.

To bad the Republican Congress didn’t get that memo.

LAPhil said:
Just out of curiousity, why is your screen Dem4Ever if you’re a Republican?

I asked him that too. If you about it, it’ll come to you. It did for me. LOL

This was all a misunderstanding. Obama was merely saying, to Cantor, “Don’t call me Plouffe”, (pronounced Pluff). Not “Don’t call my bluff”. See a simple misunderstanding.

Dem4Ever said:
Obama has lost his mind.

But not before you lost yours.

Alzhgrandma spewed: He is accustomed to having things go rather smoothly for himself but I do believe he better get used to it and thicken up that skin a bit.  
Is ya stupid? Smoothly? Like the HCR battle? WS reform? Libya? OBL assasination (one i thought EVERYONE would agree on, but i forgot a ”black” called for it)?
Get some help granny-   

And no need to attack us for recognizing ya got no teeth or smarts-

I didnt realize methheads could afford internet access…

Stop with the theatre ,he didn’t beg and gravel…,someone has been listening to too much radio taik show ,and  fox news right wingers.A wise leader gets to know his friends and enemies, (M.L.King and Gandi). Reagan greeted leaders of Russia and China with history of violent aganist their own  people and others………