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Sam Stein On Morning Joe: NY-9 Results Show Obama Is ‘Immensely Unpopular’ Among Democratic Base

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The Huffington Post’s Sam Stein appeared on Morning Joe today, to 1) send the crew into a veritable fit of giggles with his accompanying headshot and 2) discuss what the results from last night’s special election in Anthony Weiner‘s former district may mean for Barack Obama and Democrats in general.

“You nationalize it to a certain extent,” said Stein of the results:

…you can read any poll numbers and it shows that the President is immensely unpopular among people who he should be popular with. I think he won the district by 55 percent in 2008; right now his popularity in that district is, his favorability in that district is 40, and that’s not a good sign for Obama. But then you have to understand this district is likely to be gone in 14 months when redistricting happens, that Democrats have won a series of special elections prior to that and have always sort of downplayed the significance for the Republican party. So, you know, you have to take both sides of the coin here.

But if I were the President and I looked at these numbers… You know, he couldn’t even step into that district to campaign for the candidate, so, you know, things aren’t good in terms of base enthusiasm or Independent voters.

The panel then discussed how Obama is faring among other segment, including Jewish voters.

Take a look for yourselves, courtesy MSNBC. Stein appears at the 1:13 mark, after much serious discussion about the Beatles:

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  • Valkyrie101

    This is all very similar to Lincoln’s pre-second term popularity issues.

  • Anonymous

    yeah REDISTRICTING yeah!! thats the ticket!!

  • Anonymous

    Not too late for Dems to choose a replacement for Obama , someone with Obama’s charm and broad appeal :

    Suggestions :

    Debbie Wassermann Schultz
    Ed Schultz
    Henry Waxman
    John Dingell
    John Conyers
    Chuck Schumer
    Maxine Waters
    Keith Ellison
    Alcee Hastings
    Larry Flynt

    Any of these fine Democrats could easily defeat Obama in a primary , and do better than Barry  in the election .

  • fanofgrendel

    Yep, the problem Honest Abe had with about 20% of the population getting killed in a civil war pretty much the same as the fight for the Jobs Bill.

  • Yukon Jack

    Do any of them have a pear-shaped wife promoting starvation diet?

  • SNAPTIE

    Obama Is ‘Immensely Unpopular’ Among Democratic Base? “Obama Is ‘Immensely Unpopular’ Among The General Population”

  • SNAPTIE

    Obama Is ‘Immensely Unpopular’ Among Democratic Base? “Obama Is ‘Immensely Unpopular’ Among The General Population”

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    The most disgraceful part of NY-09 loss is the spin by Debbie Wassermann Schultz. She has blamed the religion of MUSLIM wife of Anthony Weiner in a Jewish district. Liberals hear the dog-whistle of racism among teaparty members, how about loud and open religion bating by Schultz 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    You would never know it from the MSM and Mediaite coverage. It just goes to show how our media live in their own little world. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    You would never know it from the MSM and Mediaite coverage. It just goes to show how our media live in their own little world. 

  • SNAPTIE

    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is in denial. Wasserman-Schultz also said today that NY-9 is “a very difficult district for Democrats”

  • Michelle

    Would you libs stop comparing Barry to Lincoln?  He’s not Lincoln.  Carter, maybe.  Only worse.

  • Dummy123

    Obama regime is NOT a big fan of Israel.
    Is it any surprise the RIGHT man won.

  • ObamaSux

    If Sam needed this as evidence then it shows how out of touch he is with America.  It shows that he is living in a cocoon with his fellow radical liberals.

  • Anonymous

    In Sam Stein’s headshot he looked very angry, but, in truth, he looked VERY sad this morning.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    How else should Obama and the democrat party have expected this contest to end?  With the introduction of so many Israel hating progressives in the fold, does the result of this election truly surprise anyone?  The Obama administration’s position on Israel has been muddled by so many within his administration that no one truly knows where his loyalties lie.

  • Anonymous

    Yo Debs! IT”S ONE OF THE EASIEST Democrat districts in not just NY but AMERICA,Twit!

  • Anonymous

    Poor libs lose another one.

    If Weprin really wanted the lib vote, he should have emailed crotch shots to all the voters in his district.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Only one small difference here in that nobody south of the Mason Dixon line participated in the 1864 general election – something I don’t anticipating happening next year.  Nice try pal but you can take your Lincoln parallels and fertilize your lawn with them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Only one small difference here in that nobody south of the Mason Dixon line participated in the 1864 general election – something I don’t anticipating happening next year.  Nice try pal but you can take your Lincoln parallels and fertilize your lawn with them.

  • Wake up America

    Bottom line, the Dems are Turning on Obama. His message and policies are affecting everyone. At this point an empty wallet does not know if it’s republican or democrat. It just knows it’s empty period. As time goes on no one will be able to make the argument that Obama is a brilliant man. Because if in fact he is brilliant, then the mess that he has created is intentional. The Dems will continue to blame the republicans, however its not the policies of the Republicans but more so of Obamas overreach and his objective to ” transform” this nation has put us all Dems, republicans, independents, Americans period in the poor house. So when some of you try to blogg that Obama is in fact a brilliant man, your wallet could be next.

  • James

    Did you mean living in a “colon”?

  • Michelle

    I know!  Dem’s have held that seat since 1922!!  They are in full on panic mode.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Elaborate and use some actual sense or shut the f*ck up. You realize that Carter doesn’t even rank as terribly as you make it seem among polls, correct? The problem is that you morons sensationalize this era that you actually lived through despite the fact that there are far worse people out there like Warren G. Harding, Grant and Johnson. Obama ranked far ahead of Carter late last year. Weren’t you trying to compare him to Carter then too?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Wait so an overwhelming majority wanted Wiener to remain in his seat, but a sensible candidate managed to win over a moron and this somehow translates to a complete referendum on the party at large and the president? Wow, I guess logic is a relic now.

  • Anonymous

    Obama still has one thing going for him, he still has 95% of the black population who thinks he is doing a good job…errr….I mean that will still vote for him regardless of what a disaster he is! I was told only whites are capable of being racists!

  • Michelle

    Yawn

  • Michelle

    Yawn

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Isn’t your screen name something of an oxymoron?  Never thought it possible to tie in the words “Reasonable” and “Lib” to the same sentence.  Your responses thus far have pretty much solidified my belief.

  • Anonymous

    I guess all the independents that are now turning against him have suddenly realized he is black and now have to be considered racists.  Bwahahaaa!

  • http://www.storminsmorningjava.blogspot.com/ stormin1961

    i could have swore that Howard Dean just yesterday said that the population was rejecting republicans and everything they stand for? hmmmmm.

  • Anonymous

    Take it easy little fella’ .
    We only compare him to Carter because of the way the economy really sucks, gas prices are sky high, millions more people are unemployed and how he will be a one term president and how more than half the country cannot wait to throw him outta’ office and he doesn’t know what to do about it.
    That’s all.
    It’s just a coincidence that both of them presided when a muslim country once considered friendly was overthrown by radicals and killers who hate Israel.

  • Anonymous

    Democrats outnumber Republicans 3:1 in that district. The seat has been held by a Democrat for almost a century. I am sure this time it was only because a “sensible” candidate ran that it managed to switch. I am sure there is no possible way it has anything to do with Obama and the state of our economy under his control. LOL.

  • Anonymous

    Where is the Real Royal King and all his horsemen this morning?
    They all seem to be MIA for some reason…hmmm. They must have had to make an emergency run down to their local DNC for some more kool-aid.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously Weprin didn’t push the magnificence of Obamacare and all the “jobs” bills he keeps rolling out to no success hard enough. I am sure that would have given him the win. <sarc

  • Anonymous

    ummm errrr, The Republican ran against Oblamer…not against his Democratic opponent. Same thing that Scott Brown did when he took Ted Kennedy’s seat.

  • Valkyrie101

    I will admitt that it is too early to really make a call (we are all just speculating), but your theory about southern non participation ignores the reality that Lincoln faced at about the same time in his first term, which was unpopularity and a general belief that he would lose. Lincoln himself thought he had no chance. But a couple of positive war reports near the time of the election changed things, and Lincoln rolled. So will Obama. I mean who are people going to vote for, Perry? Mitt? Michelle? Sarah? Rudy? None of those candidates can beat Obama because they are all seriously flawed.

  • Edge

    May I go off-topic for a second?  I would make this post under the correct story . . . only problem is, THERE IS NO STORY ABOUT SOLYNDRA ON MEDIAITE.  Did I miss it or are we burying it, Libs?!?

  • Anonymous

    **BREAKING NEWS**

    It gets even worse for “that one”
    Even Democratic California is abandoning him like the plague.

    http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_18891858

  • Anonymous

    I can answer that – burying. Most Liberals probably have no idea who Solyndra even is or what is happening there because the MSM sure isn’t going to tell them.

  • Anonymous

    That’s what the little voices in his head keep telling him.

  • Valkyrie101

    Carter is more comparable to Bush 43. At the end of both of their terms, the economy was bad. In Carter’s case, we had the double dip, in Bush’s case, we had the worst economic crisis in 80 years. And in both cases the next president had to deal with economic crisis’ not of their own making. The unemployment rate during Reagan’s first term, peaked at 9.5% in 1983. Quite similar to today, at the same point in Obama’s presidency. Of course the republicans, and the Reagan administration claimed at the time that they had inherited the bad economy. Sound familiar?

  • Valkyrie101

    After almost ten years of war now, it seems like maybe you forgot something.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Translation: I’m an idiot with no way to respond.

    I appreciate your honesty, Shelly. =D

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Then why wasn’t Bush compared to Carter? Those analogies still fit. What of Reagan? Didn’t unemployment top over 9% in his 2nd year. Didn’t he cause a recession then? Hadn’t his approval dropped below 50 in his 10th month? I’m just asking you to be serious with your analogies.

  • Yukon Jack

    When even an undisputed  liberal Democrat like Ed Koch endorses, votes for and stands with a Republican, all the douche bag- including the occupier of the highest office in the land should realize that they are in trouble. 

  • Anonymous

    Nobody coined the term “misery index” to describe Ronald Reagan.

    The difference is that they were not the cause of high gas prices, high unemployment and economic malaise.
    Obama may have had some help but he  is certainly running with the ball now with his job killing policies. Every friggin’ time Obama goes near an industry people lose their jobs or the taxpayers get soaked.

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    You are clearly an ignorant, uninformed byproduct of Fox News and talk radio, because otherwise you would know that Koch has frequently endorsed Republican candidates, including Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg for Mayor, Al D’Amatofor U.S. Senate, Peter T. King for U.S. House, George Pataki for Governor, and, in 2004, George W. Bush for President of the United States.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty good. My mother, who passed recently, would have loved that. She thought Michelle looked like a stoop shouldered, lumbering farm hand.

  • USAdood

    You call yourself The Reasonable Lib??? Does it really matter which president we compare Obama too considering you can just look at his policies and state of affairs and realize he’s not doing well??

    I appreciate your freakout, Libby!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ken-Watson/100000378332267 Ken Watson

    I can’t believe I’m saying this but don’t blame it on Weiner. As far as one can tell remotely, Weiner was hardly mentioned and NOT mentioned by Turner. I’m sure he had some WeinerClips in pocket for the last few days but did not need them. DID NOT NEED THEM! Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.

  • Anonymous

    Obama had the perfect opportunity to turn things around for the country and himself with all his recent speeches and his jobs bill. Instead, he let his politics and ideology get in the way and subsequently threw that opportunity away. It looks to me like that was his last best shot.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Republicans lost a seat in new york that they’d held since the civil war but that meant absolutely nothing. I’m just trying to understand your logic or lack of here.

  • Michelle

    Yawn.  You become more unhinged by the day.  Don’t you have a final in Salinsky tactics 101 to study for?

  • Anonymous

    You’ll have to forgive Howard Dean. He lives in that bubble where there is an alternate reality.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Repubs lost a seat they’d held since the civil war. What’s your point?

  • Anonymous

    It only surprised me how long it took for the Jewish community to catch on. They were beginning to look self destructive to me.

  • Yukon Jack

    With that statement you proved that you are the truly ignorant and uninformed one. Ed Koch IS a Democrat, and the fact that he endorsed and supported Republicans in the past only proves that that he is an exception to the rule. He is a Democrat who is smart and patriotic enough to put country ahead of party. 

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Misery index is your defense?For a time things actually got worse under Reagan but misery index means things were faaaaaaaaaaaar worse before. Honestly, are you even trying?

  • Eruthk

    None of those candidates are as flawed as Obama. 

  • Valkyrie101

    Oops.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    I feel like I’m being very reasonable here. I detest the Carter comparison because it isn’t plausible. You people try to make it seems like Obama is the worst president ever so you compare him to who YOU believe is the worst ever despite the fact that the man you compare him to doesn’t even rank in the 4th quartile while Obama is in the upper 2nd. Your argument makes no sense.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be reporting all of you vicious racist smearers to Attack Watch immediately .

    And especially you hillbillies of New York District 9 !!!

  • Valkyrie101

    Hey, well that’s pretty similar to Mitt, who carried over 95% of the Mormon vote in the 2008 primaries.

  • Anonymous

    LOL, thanks for the morning laugh! Comparing Obama to Lincoln… You know he was a Republican right? and the Democrat party was busy with building the KKK and fighting to keep slavery.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    I’m still waiting for the healthcare act to fund abortion, Michelle. Until then you’re still a moron.

  • Valkyrie101

    The latter.

  • Valkyrie101

    Jefferson was a liberal, and the forefathers were all considered radicals by the conservatives of the day, the Torries, who sided with the British.

  • Anonymous

    For their sake, I hope they are doing some serious introspection and shedding some of their denials. Unfortunately, I think you may be right and they are searching for things to bolster their ideologies. It’s got to be difficult for them to find a hand hold these days.

  • Valkyrie101

    Not really. Obama is in the same situation he was in when he took office. One party, that has the power block everything he tries, is continuing to do that. But the American people are getting hip to the GOP’s cynical game. Perhaps that is why Obama’s ratings look so impressive compared to republicans in congress.

  • PrezOworst

    Comparasion?  Carter=Loser, Obama=Loser….LOSERS.  Get it.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Or maybe you can talk about how Ayers wrote Obama’s book again lol

  • Valkyrie101

    Or alternatively, he should have had actual sex with his secretary, then he could be running for president like Newt.

  • Valkyrie101

    Perhaps you are right that given Weiner’s issues that it was appropriate even for the repubs to win his seat. But that result is not too much different than the upstate NY house election, a few months ago, where the dem won for the first time in a 140 years.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, you’re welcome to your opinion, but is sounds like some pretty serious denial to me.

  • Go Navy

    Yes, and the Dems didn’t try to make a big issue out of it……LMAO!
     
    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/25/6714648-a-very-special-election-dems-win-ny-26

  • Moderate

    I remember Carter and it is hard to imagine anyone worse than him. There was a ”crisis of confidence” (malaise) back then also.

  • Yukon Jack

    Once they realize that there is no “0bama stash”, that they still have to make their own car payment, have to pay their own rent, pay for sending their kids to Grade 5, they realize that theirs is a fake God.

    But instead of doing the right thing on election day, they will just stay home.

    HOPEFULLY!!!

  • Yukon Jack

    One has to forgive Dean Howard. He is from the never-never-land of those silly ice-cream dudes and a bit less silly stuffed bear.

  • RACE BAITING@6 RESIST WE MUCH!

    AttackWatch: The Commercial…http://weaselzippers.us/2011/09/14/attackwatch-the-commercial/

  • Valkyrie101

    Come to think of it, what was the percentage of non-white votes for McCain? About 95% of McCain’s vote were white people.

  • Valkyrie101

    Its not about personality, or skin color, its about beliefs. Mitt or whoever will be running while explaining the new libertarian position that life begins at conception and that abortion is murder. That the war in the middle east was really a creation of democrats. That social security is a ponzi scheme. And God knows what else before the primaries are over. Tea party values, in fact, are not the majority.

  • Anonymous

    No, if he were a philanderer , he would be president like Wilson, FDR, JFK and LBJ!!

  • Anonymous

    No, if he were a philanderer , he would be president like Wilson, FDR, JFK and LBJ!!

  • Anonymous

    LOL

    Yeah, NYC has always been a conservative city and Weiner’s district has always been a conservative one!!!

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, NYC has always been a conservative city and Weiner’s district has always been a conservative one!!!

    LMAO 

  • Valkyrie101

    Denial? About what? Do you really think that any of us our doing anything more than gabbing about football around the water cooler here? Its a frickin year away and the republicans do not even have a candidate yet. I do love it when you talk trash, though.

  • Valkyrie101

    No, they did make a big issue of it. Thus, you deserve to make a big issue of this latest election in your favor. It was a good win for you guys. Enjoy.  

  • Valkyrie101

    No, they did make a big issue of it. Thus, you deserve to make a big issue of this latest election in your favor. It was a good win for you guys. Enjoy.  

  • Norbit

    You’ve got the boards buzzing today BigEd.
    Can you imagine the headlines and rage of the “mainstream” (lol) media if Bush set up AttackWatch?

    btw Alex, didn’t you write the “approval ratings” article as well?
    Tell us what’s going on - are you putting a FOX resume together, or is Tommy making the move to Crackpot TV?
     
     

  • Norbit

    You’ve got the boards buzzing today BigEd.
    Can you imagine the headlines and rage of the “mainstream” (lol) media if Bush set up AttackWatch?

    btw Alex, didn’t you write the “approval ratings” article as well?
    Tell us what’s going on - are you putting a FOX resume together, or is Tommy making the move to Crackpot TV?
     
     

  • Valkyrie101

    You left off about 20 more, from all parties. Of course unlike all of those, weiner never fornicated.

  • Anonymous

    It’s interesting that you call my attempt to help you recognize your denials trash talk. That seems a little over sensitive to me. I said you were welcome to your opinion.

  • Anonymous

    congrats to all my fellow tea party jews.

    we’re just getting started.

    wait till nov 2012.

  • RACE BAITING@6 RESIST WE MUCH!

    Attack Waaaaaaatch We Much!! Will this site be in German?

  • Anonymous

    The reality of the current situation is such that… Obama is hazardous waste to anyone with an I Q above seven.

  • Michelle

    Even in heavily Democratic California, President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has plummeted among voters, largely on his handling of the economy, according to a new Field Poll.
    Though Obama is strongly favored to win California in his re-election
    bid next year, the poll suggests many Democrats may vote for him only
    begrudgingly, and it is yet another indication of weakening support
    nationwide.
    “When you’re seeing vulnerability in a state like California, I think
    that really is ominous for his national standing,” Field Poll director
    Mark DiCamillo said.
    For the first time since Obama took office in 2009, less than half of California voters – 46 percent – approve of the job he is doing, just two percentage points more than disapprove, according to the poll.

  • Anonymous

    i think re elect zero is just having a bad day

    do you think ny-9 and nevada had anything to do with it?

    where’s the civility?

  • Anonymous

    your mother had a problem with the blacks I reckin’

  • Anonymous

    If by immense you mean 45% approval overall, then yes he is…

  • Anonymous

    This election was 95% about Israel and 5% about Obama.

  • Anonymous

    I believe Obama is polling about 80% approval with Dems.

  • Valkyrie101

    Most people realize that the President is powerless to pass legislation without support from the Congress. And when one party says it will block everything, why should Obama be blamed?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe anyone said anything of the sort, must be the voices in your head. Stop laughing and get help.

  • Anonymous

    That was extremely offensive and reprehensible. How low are you willing to go? Is race baiting that much fun for you? Does it make you feel smart? Is judging people by the color of their skin part of your own character?
    She was referring to the way they were trying to make her into another Jackie-O and the contrast with the way Michelle carries herself.

  • Anonymous

    sorry but we don’t want any introspection.

    we want the food stamp party to stay exactly the way they are.

    it only makes us stronger and more determined

  • Go Navy

    Okay, fair enough.

  • Go Navy

    Would you testify to that?  LOL

  • Anonymous

    Koch supported Giuliani, hardly a bellwether. It was about Israel and the Republican hardline approach vs. the moderate views of the Dem. The entire area went about 70% for Obama in 2008, that district was only at 55%, not the Democratic stronghold it’s being made out to be.

  • Valkyrie101

    Nonelite,
    Well of course its trash talk. The candidates have not even entered the ring yet. And again, denials? About what? Losing a seat where the incumbant democratic acted way inappropriately? Why is that so unusual? Like I said, the election is a year away and the repubs have not even begun the primaries. Way too early to predict or judge the election. True?

  • Anonymous

    he has no intention of turning things around.

    he’s out to destroy this country in 4 years.

    if he wanted to all he would have to do would be to repeal zerocare.

  • Anonymous

    Had nothing to do with Obama—-but if that makes you feel a little better—you go for it, haters.

    Must be so frustrating to look at that stable of losers you have running, Know that Romney will be the pick of the litter, and you will have to pretend that he is Great!!!

  • Valkyrie101

    Really? The polls indicate that the republican congress is in the abyss. If the republicans are set to roll, why is that? Obama has done a good job with foreign policy (call it Bush2 if you want), and as for the economy, a month before Obama took office, the world economy was on the precipice of complete collapse. Are you suggesting the economy is worse now? Obama caused it? How, since virtually everything he suggests is blocked by the house republicans. People are not stupid. They are not going to reward the republicans for trying to trash our economy.

  • Anonymous

    If it’s not about skin color why do Liberals constantly call all opponents of Obama racists? If it is not about skin color why are we always reminded that he is the first BLACK President when he is just as equally white?

  • SNAPTIE

    Are you living in fantasy land? Obama at 45%? “Reality check” 40% approve,52% disapprove. http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

  • Michelle

    Any of the Repub candidates would be a HUGE step up from Ozero. 

  • Anonymous

    All ” real ” Americans realize that while the true ‘ party of no  ‘ ( democrats/cowards ) had a two year Super Majority in both houses of Congress ( until Scott Brown won ) yet they refused to even take up, l alone pass any of Obama’s job, America killing schemes.

    Now that the Republicans hold the purse strings the degenerate libs foolishly attempt to paint them as obstructionists, which is a bald faced lie.

    Anyone that still buys into Obama’s ” Death To America ” manifesto & whatever the PC word is for gay rhetoric is a total moron, to say the least.

  • Anonymous

    In 2009? Coming off the Obama win? Obviously it had to do with voter sentiment about Bush. Just like it is voter sentiment now about Obama with the switch of parties for this seat.

  • Michelle

    I guess Val has missed the recent elections. Yes, the economy was in trouble when Barry took over, but he made it worse, not better.  Why do you think his approval on the economy is tanking?

  • Michelle

    Val is always good for a laugh.

  • Valkyrie101

    No they did not. If you are going to make stuff up, choose something that is not so easly proved false. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zach-friend/the-fallacy-of-a-democrat_b_443769.html

  • Michelle

    The narcissism of libs prevents that.

  • Michelle

    It’s pretty impressive that the Dems held a seat since 1922 that they didn’t have a stronghold on. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Valkyrie – There are a few things wrong with your premise and here, I’ll attempt to explain why.  First off, returning to your previous post, you say that all of the candidates in the Republican field have serious flaws.  The unknown flaws in which you speak cannot be debated as you offered no specifics but you fail to address the serious flaws in your candidate, Obama.  His biggest flaw is of course his record.  That my friend is what the voting public is going to look to when deciding if he is worthy of another four years.  If you use Reagan’s famous question as a litmus test, “are you better off now than you were four years ago”? – then Team Obama has some real problems.  But to address this post – You call Obama’s foreign policy ‘Bush 2″ which implies it is nothing but an extension of Bush’s previous policy.  If this is the case, then you can erase from Obama’s voting base up to 50% of those who voted for him previously because it was Bush’s foreign policy that motivated many of them to begin with.  I think it’s safe to believe that regardless of the Republican nominee, conservatives will flock to the polls in droves for no other reason than to safeguard themselves from four more years of progressive ideas which have failed here and abroad for the last 50 years.  Lastly, those so-called independents, having watched their jobs or those of their friends evaporate over the course of the last three years are not in a mood from which they’ll offer Obama the benefit of the doubt.  The disaster that is his latest jobs program is just more evidence that he and his advisors really don’t have answers to solve this country’s economic woes.  It’s a lot easier to teach theory from the comfort of a classroom than it is to actually put those principles to the test.  Sorry, my friend but Obama is in real trouble; you know it, and so does everyone else.

  • Valkyrie101

    I’m pulling for Mitt, myself, because I know that after he wins the nomination that he is likely to change several of his positions in order to improve his chances in the general election. Thanks in part to Mitt, MA probably has the best health care in the country. That would be impressive for Mitt to brag about. If he only could.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Why do liberals always compare themselve to Jefferson when they feel themselves being spoken ill of?  Jefferson was also a slave owner, so what exactly is your point?

  • DietCokeHead

    Lmao.. nice.

  • DietCokeHead

    Mitt never said SS is a ponzi scheme, dumbass. Although it is a ponzi scheme by definition, Mitt has decided to play down to the ignorance of the population. He’s obviously a smart man, and i’m sure he knows what Perry does about SS, but he knows he has to coddle the masses of asses by pretending it’s all going to be O.K.

  • Anonymous

    “Romney earns 43% support to the president’s 40% in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters.”

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/2012_presidential_election_romney_vs_obama 

  • Valkyrie101

    Are you suggesting that none of the opponents of Obama are racist?

  • Valkyrie101

    Nope. But if he had, I suspect Britebart would have the video for your viewing pleasure.

  • Michelle

    It doesn’t matter, he can’t win with 31% of the I vote. 

  • Anonymous

     Seriously, this guy is our President. Do you know he just raffled himself off for a date.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xn7IJbrtSQ

  • DietCokeHead

    And 95% of the votes for Allan West were from white Republicans. It’s not our fault most african americans are stuck on your plantation.  They’re welcome on our side any time they decide to cast off the chains and seek freedom from the welfare state of mind.

  • Michelle

    Well the reason they didn’t is because they want Repub fingerprints on the legislation so they can “share” the blame when it’s an utter failure.  For once, the R’s aren’t giving it to them. 

  • Michelle

    So if it’s Obama V Romney, you’re voting for Romney?

  • Anonymous

    From a Democrat polling firm:

    If Turner wins on Tuesday it will be largely due to the incredible unpopularity of Barack Obama dragging his party down in the district. Obama won 55% there in 2008 but now has a staggeringly bad 31% approval rating, with 56% of voters disapproving of him. It’s a given that Republicans don’t like him but more shocking are his 16% approval rating with independents and the fact that he’s below 50% even with Democrats at 46% approving and 38% disapproving

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_NY9_9111118.pdf

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Valkyrie – the Democrat talking point about the loss of the NY House-26 seat are growing quite tiresome, if for no other reason than it’s totally unrelated to what motivated this Democrat loss, a lesson hopefully learned by some.  The Republican’s lost House Seat 26 over Democrat lies, pure and simple – that Republicans were coming to take their medicare away.  This was the resounding message in the weeks preceding the election and Republicans did themselves no favor by allowing this lie to resonate so clearly in the minds of this district’s elderly population.  Yesterday’s loss was in mind opinion a rebuke against not democrats as a whole but more importantly, against the Obama administration’s handling of the Israel-Palestine issue.

  • DietCokeHead

    Hard to type with your right hand down your pants and your left thumb in your mouth for comfort.

  • TruDat

    Charlie Sheen would be better than Obama.

  • TruDat

    You’re absolutely right.  Obama is the first president to ever have a House with a majority in the opposing party. (sarcasm for those unclear)

  • DietCokeHead

    If the election were held today, Romney would crush Obama. What the hell are you smoking, ignoramus?

  • Anonymous

    Not at all, I am suggesting that a very small number of opponents are racists and yet the left lumps everyone who opposes him into that group. Would you as a Liberal vote for a Conservative candidate just because they are black? If not then why would you expect me, being a Conservative, to vote for a Liberal because they are black? Race has nothing to do with it for 95% of us.

  • Anonymous

    Some people never learn from their mistakes.

  • Valkyrie101

    Mark,
    The main problem you have is that whichever republican wins, he will be stuck way over on the right, which is what it will take to win the republican nomination. But that will not fly nearly as well in a general election because most people are more moderate than that.

    I hate to tell you, but at the end of the Bush term our economy suffered its biggest crisis in 80 years. Do you recall that? You do not dispute that fact, do you? So how can you say that Obama made it worse? Osama? In the ground. Is that better?

    You guys truely hate Obama, but not because of anything he has done to cause that. You hated him before he was elected. Am I right on that?

  • Go Navy

    Viewing pleasure? Thanks, don’t need the ipecac now.  You said “Of course unlike all of those, weiner never fornicated.” Just wondering how you have such intimate knowledge?

  • Valkyrie101

    Obama’s approval rating is way down. Can identify any politician who’s approval rating is high?

  • Anonymous

    You are comparing the situation NOW to 2008. Seriously what party would that be that had the power to block everything he tried to do? The Republican minority? I believe the stimulus bill was passed, I believe Obamacare was passed, and about 120 other bills in the first year he took office.
    Politics is cynical, but now Obama has ATTACKWATCH so that should tone down the rhetorical spin for this next election…not.

  • Valkyrie101

    Neither. I’m voting for Palin/Guiliani.

  • Valkyrie101

    But the republicans announced that they were going to oppose everything Obama does, including blocking appointments, legislation, everything. In fact, the republicans have set records in blocking appointments, and in using the filibuster, so they mean’t what they said. But you still want to blame Obama for the gridlock? My dad, a lifelong republican (like me until recently), has never been more frustrated with the republicans. And he is not alone.

  • Valkyrie101

    Mitt got 95% of the Mormon vote during the 2008 primaries. Does that bother you, also?

  • Valkyrie101

    I am afraid that the republicans now own the ponzi scheme notion, though, Mitt said he dissagreed with Perry on that. But you say Mitt was just mincing words, talking down to people, and that he also thinks it is a ponzi scheme? OK.

  • Valkyrie101

    I am afraid that the republicans now own the ponzi scheme notion, though, Mitt said he dissagreed with Perry on that. But you say Mitt was just mincing words, talking down to people, and that he also thinks it is a ponzi scheme? OK.

  • Valkyrie101

    So it would be fair to say that “some” opponents of Obama are racists?

  • Valkyrie101

    Jefferson was considered a liberal, by the conservative torries. He sought to change the status quo. Just like Obama. 

  • Go Navy

    “Obama is in the same situation he was in when he took office. One party, that has the power block everything he tries, is continuing to do that.”

    Really? Who had the majority in the House and Senate when he won? That’s denial. LMAO! 

  • Anonymous

    Face it, liberals, Obama is in a free-fall.  A new poll today from left-leaning pollster showed that Obama doesn’t even have majority support in California. 

    From the article in the Sacramento Bee:

    “Since June, his rating has suffered double-digit percentage drops among Democrats, nonpartisans, men, African Americans, Asian Americans and voters over 65….It has fallen nearly 20 points since March 2009″

    And how will the Left respond?   Easy….accusations of racism, smears, ridicule, character attacks, mudslinging, and an intense desire to silence anyone who disagrees with them.  Of course, that’s exactly why they are losing support in the first place….

  • TruDat

    Again you are right.  The Republicans just keep on losing elections. (again, sarcasm)

  • Valkyrie101

    How will we respond? By simply noting that all the politicians have bad poll numbers because people are frustrated over the gridlock. Point out to me a positive republican poll that shows the population is thrilled with the republicans? You can’t. All the polls show the population being unhappy.

  • Michelle

    Why do you have trouble answering a simple question?

  • Valkyrie101

    The previous candidate who resigned might have soured his constituents. Think?

  • Anonymous

    Sam Stein On Morning Joe: NY-9 Results Show Obama Is ‘Immensely Unpopular.’

    There, I fixed it to a more accurate headline.

  • Valkyrie101

    Just a few weeks ago most of  the republicans in the house tried to put our country into default for the first time in its history, putting the nation and world on the brink of disaster. Had Obama not compromised, that disaster would have occurred. And pretty much compromise is all that Obama can do, passing bills that are just shadows of his intent. Why? Because one party has stated their intention to block everything Obama tries, intentionally causing gridlock, believing that the American people will not notice, and blame Obama for it. Before it is over, the people will be disgarding the republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Well, since Obama’s actions toward Israel factored into the vote, your calculation makes it 100% about Obama.

  • Go Navy

    Oy, Who said this about raising the debt limit?

    The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

  • Valkyrie101

    Mitt has not been vetted. He will be lucky to beat Perry.

  • Valkyrie101

    Exactly what you said in 2008. Am I right?

  • Anonymous

    RPC poll of polls 44% approval

    Rasmussen Reports 45% approval

    Reality, check.

  • Valkyrie101

    2012Freedom,
    It did sound like you agreed with me.

  • Valkyrie101

    In response to Go Navy at the bottom:
    The debt ceiling was routinely raised, previously, so as to not politicize the debate. And that is what Obama asked for, months before the deadline. But the republicans instead put America and the world on the brink of disaster. Had the democrats done that during the Bush years, when debts were also piling up, you would have screamed about it. But hey, its Obama, any nasty thing is in play. Right?

  • Valkyrie101

    How would you know? The repubs have not really been vetted yet.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right, my apologies.

  • Anonymous

    ajm:
    Thank you…accepted.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Indeed, but he also was an Obama supporter in 2008.  Why don’t you ask him now whether his vote is in Obama’s bag?

    Don’t think you’ll like his answer!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Don’t know why they felt the need to publish another web site  Media Matters for America has been doing a pretty good job of carrying Obama’s water for the last three years.

  • Anonymous

    No shit, Sam Stein.

    Obama is not just unpopular…he is a CANCER on America. He is a TYRANT who must be voted out of office next November, if this country is to be saved from his failed Marxist policies.

    Down with Obama and his union goon cronies, including the traitors Trumka and Hoffa.

  • Anonymous

    “Before it is over, the people will be disgarding the republicans.”

    Sort of the way they “disregarded” two congressional seats last night?

    Hell, even Jews voted for a Roman Catholic in a district that is 70% Jewish. Oy, does your party suck.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Valkyrie – Do you honestly expect anyone here to believe for even one moment, you were ‘a lifelong republican’ – really?  The mere volume of posts here defending your hero demonstrates without much doubt, you’ve been up his butt since his arrival on the national stage!

  • Valkyrie101

    I certainly am not the only life long republican to grow disenchanted with the GOP and their scorched earth policies. It wasn’t like that a few years ago. In fact, the republicans were the moderate party. They got hijacked by crazy right wingers. Ask Ron Reagan. We are similar.

  • Valkyrie101

    What makes you think that was not a straight answer? Well yea, it wasn’t. But if Sarah upgrades from Guliani to Trump, that may get me. The reason I will not vote for Mitt is because he has sold his once moderate soul to the devil, as a bargain in order to get elected.

  • Valkyrie101

    To Navy,
    Faced with an opposition party that is committed to voting en masse to block everything he tries, Obama would need super majorities in both houses to get anything done. That is what we will be hoping for in 2012. As for the 2010 midterms, that was the high water mark for the tea party. Their popularity has been going south. As the polls indicate.

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    And how did Ronnie Raygun snap us out of it?  Oh, yeah – he tripled the national debt, taking it from under $900 Billion to nearly $3 Trillion. So an equivalent repugnant one will run it up to about $50 Trillion. And that trickle-down you see will be yellow.

  • Anonymous

    Romney is a total phony.  He has – and will – take whatever position on any issue to fit his electorate.  His sole core belief is that he should be president.

  • Gorgegirl

    Yes they were.  And, the fact is that the economy was in worse shape when George W Bush left than when Carter left. Far worse:  You forgot Hoover.  The creator of the Great Depression.  And of course, George W Bush, the creator of the Great Recession.  How many more bailouts will you have to have as a result of the fiscal irresponsibilty of Republicans.  we’ve had the Savings & Loan Bailouts and now the Wall Street Bailouts – doesn’t anyone get there is a link there somehow?

  • Gorgegirl

    Another “borrow and spend” Republican administration.  That seems to be the “fiscal” irresponsibility they brag about.

  • Gorgegirl

    Obama’s approval rating isn’t as low as Reagan’s was in his first term.

  • Anonymous

    A bunch of dumbass old jews more concerned about Israel than America does not generalize to America as a whole. Who’s stupid enough to believe that?

  • Anonymous

    What were you back then 2? Ronnie Raygun had the Iranians hold up the release of the hostages until he was sworn in- what a freakin loser. Exactly what did Carter do that you claim is so terrible? The banks ran up interest rates to drive him out of office- it was 18% at one time- fatass republicans put every dime they had into certificates- once ronnie raygun got in – everything changed- hostages were released- before airhead even did anything- of course later he sold weapons in an act of treason and got away with it by saying i don’t recall 500 times.

  • Anonymous

    You racist pig!

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